Theresa May just named Russia as responsible for the chemical attack in the UK

[djohn2oo8]

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[Pavlov]

Obviously a false-flag.

Shills.

Etc.

[djohn2oo8]

973245188100579331

[djohn2oo8]

Obviously a false-flag.

Shills.

Etc.

lol

[djohn2oo8]

973244465178730500

[djohn2oo8]

973248597415399424

[clambake]

he has to protect putin and fight off the legal battle with a porn star hooker.


dirty guy is dirty.

[djohn2oo8]

he has to protect putin and fight off the legal battle with a porn star hooker.


dirty guy is dirty.

:lol

[djohn2oo8]

973246360433676290

[pgardn]

Trumpeters waiting for a WH response in order to confirm the validity of GB claim.

This should be cool.

Imo this is stuff got into the wrong hands. Way too clumsy. Blantantly clumsy?

[boutons_deux]

An attack on one NATO member is an attack on all of NATO, aka "common defense"

But Pootin-puppet and "Russian asset" Trash prefers to ignore Article 5

[djohn2oo8]

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[apalisoc_9]

Never would i have imagined russia to be as daring as they are now after the soviet collapse.

[boutons_deux]

Rick Wiles Suggests Hillary Clinton Was Behind Recent Poisoning Of Russian Spy
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/rick-wiles-suggests-hillary-clinton-was-behind-recent-poisoning-of-russian-spy/

[djohn2oo8]

Lordy can you imagine if someone in the Trump administration passed those names over to Putin, to target? ...............

[pgardn]

Obviously a false-flag.

Shills.

Etc.

I got a line.
May trying to take attention away from Brexit news which is constant in GB.
This could be useful.

[djohn2oo8]

973252254525526017

[Pavlov]

Rick Wiles Suggests Hillary Clinton Was Behind Recent Poisoning Of Russian Spy
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/rick-wiles-suggests-hillary-clinton-was-behind-recent-poisoning-of-russian-spy/I'm surprised he beat TSA to it.

[djohn2oo8]

I'm surprised he beat TSA to it.

:lol Guess all Trumpsters in hiding.

[xellos88330]

Why was he poisoned? I have just now learned of this.

[djohn2oo8]

Why was he poisoned? I have just now learned of this.

He was connected to Christopher Steele. Author of the Trump dossier. Likely sent as a message to Manafort.

[pgardn]

Why was he poisoned? I have just now learned of this.

Former Russian spy, defected.

Other peeps were injured as well in GB

[TSA]

England’s participation in the football World Cup in Moscow could be in doubt if Russia is linked to the suspected poisoning of former double agent Sergei Skripal, the Foreign Secretary has suggested.

Boris Johnson has warned Russia that it will face a “robust” response from the UK if it is implicated in the incident, in which the former spy's daughter was also targeted, with the England football team’s presence at this summer’s tournament now in jeopardy.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/03/06/kremlin-denies-involvement-poisoning-russian-spy-uk-anti-terror/

lol

[xellos88330]

He was connected to Christopher Steele. Author of the Trump dossier. Likely sent as a message to Manafort.

Was he a source used in the dossier?

[hater]

Someone call 1-800-MUELLER-TIME!

[djohn2oo8]

Was he a source used in the dossier?

I believe yes.

[djohn2oo8]

England’s participation in the football World Cup in Moscow could be in doubt if Russia is linked to the suspected poisoning of former double agent Sergei Skripal, the Foreign Secretary has suggested.

Boris Johnson has warned Russia that it will face a “robust” response from the UK if it is implicated in the incident, in which the former spy's daughter was also targeted, with the England football team’s presence at this summer’s tournament now in jeopardy.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/03/06/kremlin-denies-involvement-poisoning-russian-spy-uk-anti-terror/

lol

What are you laughing at exactly?

[boutons_deux]

Another Russian exiled spook said Steele endangered people like him

[hater]

“Theres Russian spies in your neighborhood”
“Who you gonna call?”
“Rob Mueller!!”

“I aint afraid of no spy”
“I hear it likes nerve agents”
“I aint afraid of no spies”
“Yeah yeah yeah yeah”


:lmao

[djohn2oo8]

Hater really melting down.

[Pavlov]

Why do Trump supporters love Putin so much?

[hater]

Responding to May's claims, Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova described the prime minister's remarks as a "circus show in the UK's parliament."

:lol theresa may does look like a shaved beqrded lady tbqh

[Pavlov]

Responding to May's claims, Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova described the prime minister's remarks as a "circus show in the UK's parliament."

:lol theresa may does look like a shaved beqrded lady tbqhOK, who do you think is behind the nerve gas attack, hater?

Deep state?

[djohn2oo8]

Why do Trump supporters love Putin so much?

Right on cue, Hater quotes something about Russia. It's embarrasing. Supporting murderers.

[hater]

why in the world would Russia use a nerve agent only russia posseses :lol

What a circus show :lmao

[hater]

“Put down the guy”

“How?”

“Use our trademarked nerve agent of course. That way nobody will know who did it”

:lmao

[djohn2oo8]

why in the world would Russia use a nerve agent only russia posseses :lol

What a circus show :lmao
So who else would use a nerve agent that only Russia posseses Lordy!

[TSA]

What are you laughing at exactly?

I quoted exactly what I'm laughing at.

[djohn2oo8]

I quoted exactly what I'm laughing at.

That's all you have to mention on the subject? Soccer? lol

[pgardn]

why in the world would Russia use a nerve agent only russia posseses :lol

What a circus show :lmao

Why in the world would the Russian government run press state that:

Citizens who hate their country, or ex spies turncoats, should not live in Great Britian. Too many strange things happen when you turn on the Motherland!

Holy schnitzels... this is crazy. Who is running the show in Moscow?

Hater, it's a joy having you on this board.

[djohn2oo8]

Has the WH responded yet?

[Pavlov]

why in the world would Russia use a nerve agent only russia posseses :lol

What a circus show :lmaoOK, hater -- who do you think used the Russian nerve agent in the UK?

[pgardn]

OK, hater -- who do you think used the Russian nerve agent in the UK?

Why of course, the UK.

Even though Russia sent out early threats to their citizens about loyalty via their press.

The UK false flagged it to get back at Russia.
Even poisoned some of their own people to get it done.

Back to work.
Cant wait to see the WH response and Hater's! The conspiracy comedy is so entertaining.

[hater]

Sounds like a Maxell Smart episode tbqh :lmao

“CHAOS has struck again! They used their propritary nerve agent by mistake”

“Put agent 99 on the case ASAP!!”


:lmao

[djohn2oo8]

This is an entertaining meltdown.

[Pavlov]

Sounds like a Maxell Smart episode tbqh :lmao

“CHAOS has struck again! They used their propritary nerve agent by mistake”

“Put agent 99 on the case ASAP!!”


:lmaoSo who do you say is behind the Russian nerve agent attack in the UK, hater?

[spurraider21]

Has the WH responded yet?
It could have been anybody! It could have been a fat guy on his bed!

[Pavlov]

It could have been anybody! It could have been a fat guy on his bed!Maybe it's the Jooooooos like Putin sez.

[djohn2oo8]

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Don't wanna upset daddeh.

[koriwhat]

OK, who do you think is behind the nerve gas attack, hater?

Deep state?

Speculation all around but what youre looking to do is make fun of someone no matter who they think poisoned that shitfuck. Your games are lame fuckface.

[koriwhat]

Has the WH responded yet?

Who cares

[djohn2oo8]

Speculation all around but what youre looking to do is make fun of someone no matter who they think poisoned that shitfuck. Your games are lame fuckface.
It's not speculation. Dumbfuck. That male secretary education shining through.

[koriwhat]

It's not speculation. Dumbfuck. That male secretary education shining through.

This fucking ladyboy again...

[hater]

There are a million ways to off someone

Using your proprietary nerve agent which only you have access to is possibly the dumbest spy move in history of mankinds or a false flag IMO

Sorry to burst the bubble fellas carry on :tu

[djohn2oo8]

There are a million ways to off someone

Using your proprietary nerve agent which only you have access to is possibly the dumbest spy move in history of mankinds or a false flag IMO

Sorry to burst the bubble fellas carry on :tu

So who uses a nerve agent that only comes from Russia? Enlighten us.

[djohn2oo8]

BTW, Putin has never been shy about killing. You think he wants to do things secretly? :lol

[hater]

“Who uses nerve agnt from Russia”

Someone who would want to incriminate them duh

[djohn2oo8]

“Who uses nerve agnt from Russia”

Someone who would want to incriminate them duh

:lmao So someone else uses a nerve agent manufactured in Russia to frame them. Holy shit :rollin

[djohn2oo8]

Manufactured ONLY in Russia btw. Lordy!

[Pavlov]

Speculation all around but what youre looking to do is make fun of someone no matter who they think poisoned that shitfuck. Your games are lame fuckface.


There are a million ways to off someone

Using your proprietary nerve agent which only you have access to is possibly the dumbest spy move in history of mankinds or a false flag IMO

Sorry to burst the bubble fellas carry on :tu


Obviously a false-flag.

Shills.

Etc.Really, you guys don't even have to post anymore.

[koriwhat]

Really, you guys don't even have to post anymore.

You just hate being left with egg on your face... everyday with your dennys grand slam all over your ugly mug.

[hater]

“Manufacturd only in russia”

:lmao. Probably in the same vials as Colin Powells Iraqi WMDs :lmao

[Pavlov]

You just hate being left with egg on your face... everyday with your dennys grand slam all over your ugly mug.Not sure what you're trying to say other than you love Putin and wouldn't want to say anything bad about him because Dennison worships the guy.

[koriwhat]

Not sure what you're trying to say other than you love Putin and wouldn't want to say anything bad about him because Dennison worships the guy.

I don't even know much about him tbh... you're just a fucking pansy is all. Keep crying sissy boy.

[djohn2oo8]

“Manufacturd only in russia”

:lmao. Probably in the same vials as Colin Powells Iraqi WMDs :lmao

973266715508461575
Only in Russia

[DisAsTerBot]

I don't even know much about him tbh... you're just a fucking pansy is all. Keep crying sissy boy.

You’re a tough guy now?

[Pavlov]

I don't even know much about him tbh... you're just a fucking pansy is all. Keep crying sissy boy.Why do you even show up in these threads? You don't know anything.

[Pavlov]

You’re a tough guy now?97 pounds of twisted railroad steel.

[djohn2oo8]

https://www.google.com/amp/www.independent.co.uk/news/science/novichok-nerve-agent-what-is-it-russian-spy-poisoning-sergei-skripal-a8252426.html%3famp

[djohn2oo8]

97 pounds of twisted railroad steel.

Lordy! :lmao

[hater]

Yes and Iraq has WMDs :rolleyes

[djohn2oo8]

Yes and Iraq has WMDs :rolleyes

So who went to Russia and acquired a nerve agent produced there?

[hater]

Um someone that wanted to incriminate them?

[djohn2oo8]

Um someone that wanted to incriminate them?

I'm not asking just "someone". I'm asking, since you say it wasn't Russia, then who was it?

[koriwhat]

You’re a tough guy now?

Never claimed to be a tough guy but I'm def no sissy like pav.


Why do you even show up in these threads? You don't know anything.

I know you're full of shit.

[Pavlov]

Never claimed to be a tough guy but I'm def no sissy like pav.



I know you're full of shit.You seem like quite a sissy tbh.

[xellos88330]

Something just seems "off" about this. How did they come to identify the gas in order to claim it was Novichok? After forensic analysis, they came to determine what the gas was. If they knew what it was and what constitutes the gas, then doesn't that mean that they had the recipe for the gas to begin with? If you have the recipe, could you not make it as well?

[Spurminator]

The current White House seems more hesitant to implicate Russia in anything by name than Obama was to implicate "Radical Islamic Terrorism" by name.

[boutons_deux]

Something just seems "off" about this. How did they come to identify the gas in order to claim it was Novichok? After forensic analysis, they came to determine what the gas was. If they knew what it was and what constitutes the gas, then doesn't that mean that they had the recipe for the gas to begin with? If you have the recipe, could you not make it as well?

Can also be applied as powder

[clambake]

you right boo


thats how it was used.

[pgardn]

Um someone that wanted to incriminate them?

Um

Like they never had troops in Crimea.
Like they never payed to play in our elections
Like they never knew the Syrians had nerve gas
Like the never entered Ukraine
Like they never imprison or kill political opposition

Um

Like their government press never said this:

Channel One's Director for News Programmes, Kirill Kleimyonov (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirill_Kleimyonov), delivered the commentary, which concluded with an admonishment for "exclusively pedagogical purposes" to those who "dream of a career of a traitor to the motherland": "The profession of a traitor is one of the most hazardous in the world." He delivered another one "for a broader audience": "Don't choose England as a next country to live in. Whatever the reasons, whether you're a professional traitor to the motherland or you just hate your country in your spare time, I repeat, no matter, don't move to England.


Who did it Hater? Who is someone?
What government and why?

[pgardn]

Was he a source used in the dossier?

I have read nothing from real papers to suggests this.

[boutons_deux]

https://twitter.com/SchreckReports/status/973042536435671046

[hater]

Ma nig Lavrov :tu hes dat niga (check my avatar)

“We have certainly heard the ultimatum voiced in London,” Lavrov said on Tuesday. “The spokesperson for the Foreign Ministry has commented on our attitude to this,” he added referring to Maria Zakharova branding of May’s appearance in Parliament as a “circus.”

He added that a case of alleged use of chemical weapons should be handled through the proper channel, being the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) – of which both Russia and Britain are members.

“As soon as the rumors came up that the poisoning of Skripal involved a Russia-produced agent, which almost the entire English leadership has been fanning up, we sent an official request for access to this compound so that our experts could test it in accordance with the Chemical Weapons Convention [CWC],” Lavrov said. So far the request has been ignored by the British side, he added.

The minister assured that Russia has nothing to do with the poisoning of Skripal and would assist Britain in the investigation, provided that London meets its own obligations as to how such probes are to be handled.

[Reck]

Ma nig Lavrov :tu hes dat niga (check my avatar)

I always thought the guy in your avatar was Don Eugenio. :lol

[boutons_deux]

rightwingnutjob assholes always enthusiastically ready to believe all Russians at face value.

These people are truly stupid.

[hater]

I always thought the guy in your avatar was Don Eugenio. :lol

Whos that?

[Reck]

Whos that?

Some mexican soap opera actor.

He's like the spanish version of Don Corleone. :lol

[djohn2oo8]

973528890839674881

[hater]

Damn Deep State all up in this false flag

Fired Tillerson immediately after he says it wouldnt make sense for Russia to do this

Damns

False flag 100%

[djohn2oo8]

973575341938704384
Oh another Russian dead

[diego]

Very first post in this thread says parts are harmless, easily transported, and formulae available on the Internet - hardly a smoking gun pointing at Russia.

They have motive, except they already arrested, convicted and imprisoned him and he got out because Russia released him eight years ago. So Russia is not the only party with a motive to attack him

[Pavlov]

Very first post in this thread says parts are harmless, easily transported, and formulae available on the Internet - hardly a smoking gun pointing at Russia.

They have motive, except they already arrested, convicted and imprisoned him and he got out because Russia released him eight years ago. So Russia is not the only party with a motive to attack himWho are the other parties with the motive to attack him?

[clambake]

Who are the other parties with the motive to attack him?

deep state. same people that got seth rich.

[diego]

Who are the other parties with the motive to attack him?

If he was involved in making the Trump dossier, Trump/US for starters

[Pavlov]

If he was involved in making the Trump dossier, Trump/US for startersWell that would be for the exact same reasons Russia would want him dead.

[hater]

:lol

Pavlov is so innocent. So cute

“Who else would be meanie to him? I dont se who else” :lmao

[Pavlov]

:lol

Pavlov is so innocent. So cute

“Who else would be meanie to him? I dont se who else” :lmaoYou're not answering the question.

[pgardn]

If he was involved in making the Trump dossier, Trump/US for starters

If who was involved?

And a link that suggests so?

[pgardn]

:lol

Pavlov is so innocent. So cute

“Who else would be meanie to him? I dont se who else” :lmao


Yeah, clearly a false flag:

Dumb ass...




Channel One's Director for News Programmes, Kirill Kleimyonov (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirill_Kleimyonov), delivered the commentary, which concluded with an admonishment for "exclusively pedagogical purposes" to those who "dream of a career of a traitor to the motherland": "The profession of a traitor is one of the most hazardous in the world." He delivered another one "for a broader audience": "Don't choose England as a next country to live in. Whatever the reasons, whether you're a professional traitor to the motherland or you just hate your country in your spare time, I repeat, no matter, don't move to England.

[pgardn]

The Donald weighs in:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/mar/13/russian-spy-attack-trump-supports-uk-all-the-way


Hater gonna change his stance or still believe we never made it to the moon?

[koriwhat]

You seem like quite a sissy tbh.

lol what do you know you "male" feminist?

[Pavlov]

The Donald weighs in:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/mar/13/russian-spy-attack-trump-supports-uk-all-the-way


Hater gonna change his stance or still believe we never made it to the moon?THE DERP STATE GOT TO HIM!

[diego]

Like pavlov said, the motive for Russia is just as valid for the US, and the evidence for each's involvement about equal, beyond "theresa may said so"

I don't pretend to know what other parties had motive, but a spy and double agent probably had lots of enemies, from states to former colleagues to private work etc etc. Just because the UK govt says so and the nerve agent was invented by Russia doesn't mean that they are the only ones that could do it. Is it likely Russia or Russians were involved? Yes, the victim was Russian after all. But I won't take one govts account as conclusive evidence.

[Pavlov]

lol what do you know you "male" feminist?I know you're a "male" sissy.

[koriwhat]

I know you're a "male" sissy.

pav i have no idea why you even reply, quote, etc to me... i fucking can't stand you or your shtick. i have you on ignore but have to see your stupid fucking notifications about you quoting me. just go fuck yourself and get off my back because this back and forth with you is annoying. the notifications are annoying too especially when i see they are in response to your bitchass.

[Pavlov]

pav i have no idea why you even reply, quote, etc to me... i fucking can't stand you or your shtick. i have you on ignore but have to see your stupid fucking notifications about you quoting me. just go fuck yourself and get off my back because this back and forth with you is annoying. the notifications are annoying too especially when i see they are in response to your bitchass.You're a real sissy to reply to me saying you have me on ignore.

[koriwhat]

You're a really sissy to reply to me saying you have me on ignore.

i do have you on ignore. do you not know how vbulletin works? i still get notifications regardless... stop replying to me altogether and we're good. fuck off faggot!

[Pavlov]

i do have you on ignore. do you not know how vbulletin works? i still get notifications regardless... stop replying to me altogether and we're good. fuck off faggot!Only sissies reply to people more than once to say they have them on ignore.

[pgardn]

Like pavlov said, the motive for Russia is just as valid for the US, and the evidence for each's involvement about equal, beyond "theresa may said so"

I don't pretend to know what other parties had motive, but a spy and double agent probably had lots of enemies, from states to former colleagues to private work etc etc. Just because the UK govt says so and the nerve agent was invented by Russia doesn't mean that they are the only ones that could do it. Is it likely Russia or Russians were involved? Yes, the victim was Russian after all. But I won't take one govts account as conclusive evidence.

Have you read the Russian press releases from March 5 till now? I suggest you do so. This happened March 4, GB held off on naming a country till they got their evidence together. After it was first published, and BEFORE T. May made her state announcement blaming Russia, take a look at Russian press releases. From Putin, to various government controlled press from Russia. IMO this is a very bizzare miscalculation by the Russians. Someone screwed up.

Do you believe our intelligence that states the govt of Russia tried various methods of creating chaos in our elections?

[hater]

Like pavlov said, the motive for Russia is just as valid for the US, and the evidence for each's involvement about equal, beyond "theresa may said so"

I don't pretend to know what other parties had motive, but a spy and double agent probably had lots of enemies, from states to former colleagues to private work etc etc. Just because the UK govt says so and the nerve agent was invented by Russia doesn't mean that they are the only ones that could do it. Is it likely Russia or Russians were involved? Yes, the victim was Russian after all. But I won't take one govts account as conclusive evidence.

Yup. This is logic based thinking using facts. Congrats :tu

Funny to think that Russia would be only state to have possesion of this material. Could it be Russia? Sure but it also could be another state or organization.

Russia qnd my nig Lavror are saying they will respond to a proper British inquiry rquested by proper channels and provided with some evidence. Britain is not doing that and instead crying in the media just like US is about “meddling”

If I suspect my neighbor Shat on my lawn I dont call in a press comferece to bitch about it. I anqlize the turd and call our lawyrs to proprly request a dna sample from the neighbor or wqlk up to their house and ask them

The circus show just shows this is most likely a false flag or at least an excuse to fuel the cold war

[djohn2oo8]

973905368962265092

[djohn2oo8]

973903275044065280

[djohn2oo8]

973903650203537408

[djohn2oo8]

973904940413472769
lol

[hater]

The bearded lady is back on stage :lmao

The circus show must go on

But thats it?? Expelling a few diplomats and economic measures?? Thats all for anchemical attack on british soil? :lmao

Did she even take her shitty soccer team off the world cup?? :lmao that would have actually been a favor to russia and th world

Damns the british hooligans are gonna get massacred if they dare go to russia tbqh

[hater]

:lol bearded lady

973901801815724032

:lol giving a 2 day ultimatum to biggest nuclear power is way stupider than Obamas red line :lol

[djohn2oo8]

973888840845979648

[hater]

973910443973578753


:lmao

[djohn2oo8]

Hater, we know you are Russian.

[hater]

973916271426396161

:lol

[hater]

Ma niga djohn no im not. Look up my firsts posts here and you will see I hated Putin :lol

But after years of watching, reading and learning I see that its 90% propaganda. Our governments are as bad or worse. And I am glad he is trying to achieve a world balance because as I said, when US was king of the world since 1990 its has been waging war after war and consuming countries in hellfire. That has to stop

Keep up the good fight john :tu

[djohn2oo8]

Says he hated Putin.Goes on a full rant supporting Putin. I do remember a few years back you did have a little Russian flag under your moniker. Makes perfect sense now.

Btw don't you live in a different country?

[hater]

If by Russian you mean Colombian Flag niga :lol

Hopefully you will someday see the light :tu

In the meantime lets twitter battle :lol

[hater]

973919932093272064

:tu basically

If they dont even send 1 sample to Russia all this is nothing more but a circus act

May using this to hold on to power as she had the weakest government in britain in decacdes

This russia thing is a godsend. What a coincidence :lol

[djohn2oo8]

973863828629934080
Damn. Hater's theory shot dead.

[djohn2oo8]

973915362805784576

[djohn2oo8]

973903741022887938

[hater]

No sendy sample no luck to bearded lady tbqh

The top Russian diplomat has repeatedly said that Moscow will not respond to the UK’s ultimatum until it receives samples of the alleged chemical weapon that poisoned Skripal and his daughter. “As soon as the rumors came up that the poisoning of Skripal involved a Russian-produced agent, which almost the entire English leadership has been fanning, we sent an official request for access to this compound so that our experts could test it in accordance with the Chemical Weapons Convention [CWC],” Lavrov had said on Tuesday.

[djohn2oo8]

^
https://media.giphy.com/media/Rr9iTrK374yPK/giphy.gif

[djohn2oo8]

973909252174745601
Gotta wait on Putin's orders.

[djohn2oo8]

973896577646452739

[pgardn]

Yup. This is logic based thinking using facts. Congrats :tu

Funny to think that Russia would be only state to have possesion of this material. Could it be Russia? Sure but it also could be another state or organization.

Russia qnd my nig Lavror are saying they will respond to a proper British inquiry rquested by proper channels and provided with some evidence. Britain is not doing that and instead crying in the media just like US is about “meddling”

If I suspect my neighbor Shat on my lawn I dont call in a press comferece to bitch about it. I anqlize the turd and call our lawyrs to proprly request a dna sample from the neighbor or wqlk up to their house and ask them

The circus show just shows this is most likely a false flag or at least an excuse to fuel the cold war

Russia did respond immediately thru the press because the English press already got wind of the attacks and printed a story blaming no one. Then Russia itself came out with a bunch of what I guess you would call preliminary statements. Putin even weighed in BEFORE T May made her pronouncement.

Again from Russian government run media BEFORE T. May:



Channel One's Director for News Programmes, Kirill Kleimyonov (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirill_Kleimyonov), delivered the commentary, which concluded with an admonishment for "exclusively pedagogical purposes" to those who "dream of a career of a traitor to the motherland": "The profession of a traitor is one of the most hazardous in the world." He delivered another one "for a broader audience": "Don't choose England as a next country to live in. Whatever the reasons, whether you're a professional traitor to the motherland or you just hate your country in your spare time, I repeat, no matter, don't move to England.

[pgardn]

Hater has an agenda (extremely bizzare one) that shows love for murdering dictators. Assad, Putin, got a big hard on for China now that they have no term limits. Our democracy is far from perfect but this idiot has the gall to use the but, but but... the US did... to protect thugs and oppression.

Its not gonna stand.
He can't handle the truth.

[pgardn]

This is a very bizzare incident and I personally think the most viable story is the following:

This gassed Russian spy outed more than 300 Russian agents in his time as a working double agent. Fact. He did much more harm to Russia and Russians on a personal level, these 300 were comrades. At this point given the facts and the blatant use of a specific gas, I think he got hit by some of his own, possibly without a Russian go-ahead from up top. If you read the warnings given early on coming from Russia, and understand that GB is virtually crawling with Russian spies to this day, then it is quite possible the warnings given out by the Russian media is saying essentially, "your brothers are all over England, you out your brothers, then face the consequences"

This totally makes the most sense at this point.

This false flag fantasy land, that requires too much coverup, is amusingly childish. They got English citizens as well you dumb shit (hater), you don't think the families will relentlessly dig and prod and ask MPs to start an investigation if the Engish evidence makes no sense? This is basically what happens when the CIA tries stupid ass stuff and gets caught. Our press with the families, along with members of congress, relentlessly dig if it's too stinky. (This does not occur in Russia, there is not much of a process to find out unless the Western press has a go)

Facts. And a hypothesis given the current situation.

[djohn2oo8]

Hmm.
DarrinS seems quiet on the subject

as does
TSA, Chris.

[pgardn]

Hmm.
DarrinS (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=2042) seems quiet on the subject

as does
TSA (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7640), Chris (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1656).

I don't see why this has to be party associated (DarrinS)

I do find it strange that the others have not presented some moonbat theory yet...
Possibly Trump's reaction, which is quite possibly not his last, is straightforward ... Russia needs to find out what happened. Explain.

From here I see it most likely the official Russian version just leaves it up in the air. The point has been made with or without official graces. Do not F with your own. They might be trying to find out how it went down if it was not ordered. And the CIA and M-5 will probably try and find out if the Russian government is actually curious.

[Pavlov]

973265692714729472lol President Dennison

[spurraider21]

973909252174745601
Gotta wait on Putin's orders.
Trump supports UK claim Russia to blame for nerve agent attack (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-signals-hell-support-uk-claim-russia-blame/story?id=53708911)

[djohn2oo8]

Trump supports UK claim Russia to blame for nerve agent attack (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-signals-hell-support-uk-claim-russia-blame/story?id=53708911)






"I’m speaking to Theresa May today," Trump said, adding, “As soon as we get the facts straight, if we agree with them, we will condemn Russia or whoever it may be."

That's a hell of a condemnation.

[hater]

:lmao Jeremy Corbin with da goods :lmao

“Has the Prime Minister taken necessary steps under the chemical weapon convention to make a formal request for evidence from Russian government under article 9.2? Has high-resolution trace analysis been run on a sample of the nerve agent that revealed any evidence as to the location of its production or identity of its perpetrators?”

He went on: “And while suspending high-level contacts, does the Prime Minister agree it is essential to maintain a robust dialogue with Russia?” The PM dodged the questions by hitting out at Corbyn for not condemning Russia’s “culpability.”

[boutons_deux]

Trash sounds like Pootin

Trash says "whoever it might be" (anybody but Vlad's boys),

while Pootin says, about US elections meddlers,

"Maybe they're not even Russians," he said.

"Maybe they're Ukrainians, Tatars, Jews, just with Russian citizenship."

Puppet / Russian asset Trash so compromised by BFF Vlad, who hold Trash's balls every so threateningly.

[koriwhat]

973909252174745601
Gotta wait on Putin's orders.

wgaf! has to answer to everything globally. fuck the rest of the world!

[Chris]

Trump tweeted! Trump didn't tweet!

[koriwhat]

Trump tweeted! Trump didn't tweet!

funny thing about that is the fact that the left wants trump's twitter account taken down but yet they all FOLLOW that same account. logical, right? lol

[Pavlov]

funny thing about that is the fact that the left wants trump's twitter account taken down but yet they all FOLLOW that same account. logical, right? lolI don't want it taken down.

[Blake]

Trump tweeted! Trump didn't tweet!

He's the president.

Much different than you following Hillary who is pretty much irrelevant at the moment

[Blake]

funny thing about that is the fact that the left wants trump's twitter account taken down but yet they all FOLLOW that same account. logical, right? lol

Nobody wants it down, dummy

[koriwhat]

Nobody wants it down, dummy

you're full of it and must think i'm such a knuckle dragging moron that i'd believe you. lol

[Chris]

He's the president.

Much different than you following Hillary who is pretty much irrelevant at the moment

She's being investigated, and she just blamed married white women on her loss. lol irrelevant

[Chris]

974032791640788992

[Pavlov]

974032791640788992Russia bad now?

[Chris]

Russia bad now?


When was Russia good?

[spurraider21]

you really think Putin would pull an Assad and attack his own people, tbh?

[hater]

::lmao :lmao teresa may what an incompetent fool :lol

Shes an mbartasment to the UK :lol

Russia's envoy to the UN has demanded proof of Russia's involvement in the incident in Salisbury. He also asked members of UNSC to think who would benefit from these accusations.

Vasily Nebenzya said the UK dragged this case to the UN rather than addressing a relevant international body in the Hague because it is scared of a professional probe.


:lmao she thought by bitching and moaning was enough for UN to punish Russia

What kind of incompetnt retards run that UK govmnt????

[hater]

974032791640788992

:lmao another incompetnt buffoon :lmao

Holee sheet :lmao

[Pavlov]

:lmao another incompetnt buffoon :lmao

Holee sheet :lmaoTrump's appointed representative.

[hater]

Yup

Love Russian response tbqh

“Ok fine. You accuse us, prove it in an international court and show evidence”

Im gonna go ahead and predict UK and Nikki will NOT show any evidence and wont even talk to an international court :lol

Once again all this without any vidence is just a circus show

[pgardn]

I got a line.
May trying to take attention away from Brexit news which is constant in GB.
This could be useful.





::lmao :lmao teresa may what an incompetent fool :lol

Shes an mbartasment to the UK :lol

Russia's envoy to the UN has demanded proof of Russia's involvement in the incident in Salisbury. He also asked members of UNSC to think who would benefit from these accusations.

Vasily Nebenzya said the UK dragged this case to the UN rather than addressing a relevant international body in the Hague because it is scared of a professional probe.


:lmao she thought by bitching and moaning was enough for UN to punish Russia

What kind of incompetnt retards run that UK govmnt????

Close enough. Called it two days ago.
Hater retardation saves the day for me.
The emoticon overdose seals the deal.

[Blake]

you're full of it and must think i'm such a knuckle dragging moron that i'd believe you. lol

You're free to show who wants it down. It's your claim that nobody is believing, not the other way around

[pgardn]

Trump's appointed representative.

The fake Sandinista socialist/capitalist, wanna-be-repressed, bow to the overlord in orange, has lost all sense of direction.
When it's Trump v. Putin, hater will suckle the Russian thug first.

[Pavlov]

The fake Sandinista socialist/capitalist, wanna-be-repressed, bow to the overlord in orange, has lost all sense of direction.
When it's Trump v. Putin, hater will suckle the Russian thug first.Eh, he takes both sides of every issue.

[Blake]

She's being investigated, and she just blamed married white women on her loss. lol irrelevant

A white woman citizen blaming other white women for something is important news to Chris

[pgardn]

Eh, he takes both sides of every issue.

Yeah.

I do think he has real addiction for a dicktator though.

[pgardn]

Now we got the famous and very entertaining diplomat tossing contest.

[clambake]

trump is such a chickenshit.

[Chris]

A white woman citizen blaming other white women for something is important news to Chris

:cry Leave Hillary alone you guys - she's irrelevant! :cry

[Pavlov]

:cry Leave Hillary alone you guys - she's irrelevant! :cryYou are free to be as obsessed with her as you want to be.

[Chris]

You are free to be as obsessed with her as you want to be.

By that logic you are obsessed with Trump.

[DMC]

Why do we give a fuck, it's not like the US hasn't assassinated anyone... MLK, Malcolm X, Biggie.

[hater]

Why do we give a fuck, it's not like the US hasn't assassinated anyone... MLK, Malcolm X, Biggie.

Not to mention James Bond murderd dozens of ppl in foreign countries with various chemicals

May should cancel all James Bond movies as it is now terrorism propaganda :lmao

Stupid old bitch looks like she should have her baking show on bbc channel 32 not lead a country :lol what an embarrasment

[Pavlov]

By that logic you are obsessed with Trump.David Dennison is the president.

Is Hillary the president, Chris?

[clambake]

Why do we give a fuck, it's not like the US hasn't assassinated anyone... MLK, Malcolm X, Biggie.

yeah

but why is donna such a scared pussy to say something?

[Chris]

David Dennison is the president.

Is Hillary the president, Chris?

So we can only talk about the current POTUS in the Politics forum?

[hater]

yeah

but why is donna such a scared pussy to say something?

Maybe he doesnt give a fuck

[Spurminator]

Maybe he doesnt give a fuck

Too busy giving a fuck about SNL and the Oscars and other more important matters.

[hater]

Too busy giving a fuck about SNL and the Oscars and other more important matters.

Yup

[Pavlov]

So we can only talk about the current POTUS in the Politics forum?You are free to be as obsessed with her as you want.

[hater]

:lol

974089099299581952

[Pavlov]

:lol

974089099299581952:lol rando tweets

What happened to the other 6 SonyaSones?

[hater]

The same people who assured you that Saddam Hussein had WMD’s now assure you Russian “novichok” nerve agents are being wielded by Vladimir Putin to attack people on British soil. As with the Iraqi WMD dossier, it is essential to comb the evidence very finely. A vital missing word from Theresa May’s statement yesterday was “only”. She did not state that the nerve agent used was manufactured ONLY by Russia. She rather stated this group of nerve agents had been “developed by” Russia. Antibiotics were first developed by a Scotsman, but that is not evidence that all antibiotics are today administered by Scots.

[hater]

The “novichok” group of nerve agents – a very loose term simply for a collection of new nerve agents the Soviet Union were developing fifty years ago – will almost certainly have been analysed and reproduced by Porton Down. That is entirely what Porton Down is there for. It used to make chemical and biological weapons as weapons, and today it still does make them in small quantities in order to research defences and antidotes. After the fall of the Soviet Union Russian chemists made a lot of information available on these nerve agents. And one country which has always manufactured very similar persistent nerve agents is Israel. This Foreign Policy magazine (a very establishment US publication) article on Israel‘s chemical and biological weapon capability is very interesting indeed. I will return to Israel later in this article.

Incidentally, novichok is not a specific substance but a class of new nerve agents. Sources agree they were designed to be persistent, and of an order of magnitude stronger than sarin or VX. That is rather hard to square with the fact that thankfully nobody has died and those possibly in contact just have to wash their clothes.

[hater]

From Putin’s point of view, to assassinate Skripal now seems to have very little motivation. If the Russians have waited eight years to do this, they could have waited until after their World Cup. The Russians have never killed a swapped spy before.

It is worth noting that the “wicked” Russians gave Skripal a far lighter jail sentence than an American equivalent would have received. If a member of US Military Intelligence had sold, for cash to the Russians, the names of hundreds of US agents and officers operating abroad, the Americans would at the very least jail the person for life, and I strongly suspect would execute them. Skripal just received a jail sentence of 18 years, which is hard to square with the narrative of implacable vindictiveness against him. If the Russians had wanted to make an example, that was the time.

[Pavlov]

The same people who assured you that Saddam Hussein had WMD’s now assure you Russian “novichok” nerve agents are being wielded by Vladimir Putin to attack people on British soil. As with the Iraqi WMD dossier, it is essential to comb the evidence very finely. A vital missing word from Theresa May’s statement yesterday was “only”. She did not state that the nerve agent used was manufactured ONLY by Russia. She rather stated this group of nerve agents had been “developed by” Russia. Antibiotics were first developed by a Scotsman, but that is not evidence that all antibiotics are today administered by Scots.That blog is right up there with his "Zionist Censorship on Facebook" entry.

[hater]

It is worth noting that the “wicked” Russians gave Skripal a far lighter jail sentence than an American equivalent would have received. If a member of US Military Intelligence had sold, for cash to the Russians, the names of hundreds of US agents and officers operating abroad, the Americans would at the very least jail the person for life, and I strongly suspect would execute them. Skripal just received a jail sentence of 18 years, which is hard to square with the narrative of implacable vindictiveness against him. If the Russians had wanted to make an example, that was the time.

[hater]

I am alarmed by the security, spying and armaments industries’ frenetic efforts to stoke Russophobia and heat up the new cold war. I am especially alarmed at the stream of cold war warrior “experts” dominating the news cycles. I write as someone who believes that agents of the Russian state did assassinate Litvinenko, and that the Russian security services carried out at least some of the apartment bombings that provided the pretext for the brutal assault on Chechnya. I believe the Russian occupation of Crimea and parts of Georgia is illegal. On the other hand, in Syria Russia has saved the Middle East from domination by a new wave of US and gulf sponsored extreme jihadists.

The naive view of the world as “goodies” and “baddies”, with our own ruling class as the good guys, is for the birds. I witnessed personally in Uzbekistan the willingness of the UK and US security services to accept and validate intelligence they knew to be false in order to pursue their policy objectives. We should be extremely sceptical of their current anti-Russian narrative. There are many possible suspects in this attack.

*

Craig Murray is an author, broadcaster and human rights activist. He was British Ambassador to Uzbekistan from August 2002 to October 2004 and Rector of the University of Dundee from 2007 to 2010.


Globalresearch

[pgardn]

The “novichok” group of nerve agents – a very loose term simply for a collection of new nerve agents the Soviet Union were developing fifty years ago – will almost certainly have been analysed and reproduced by Porton Down. That is entirely what Porton Down is there for. It used to make chemical and biological weapons as weapons, and today it still does make them in small quantities in order to research defences and antidotes. After the fall of the Soviet Union Russian chemists made a lot of information available on these nerve agents. And one country which has always manufactured very similar persistent nerve agents is Israel. This Foreign Policy magazine (a very establishment US publication) article on Israel‘s chemical and biological weapon capability is very interesting indeed. I will return to Israel later in this article.

Incidentally, novichok is not a specific substance but a class of new nerve agents. Sources agree they were designed to be persistent, and of an order of magnitude stronger than sarin or VX. That is rather hard to square with the fact that thankfully nobody has died and those possibly in contact just have to wash their clothes.

Russian scientist accidentally exposed took 5 years to die. Of course the US and GB do research on this stuff as they were asked by Uzbekistan to dismantle old production facilities to get rid of the stuff because it is very difficult to work with. Which is part of the reason its application in warfare is sketchy as it's very easy to poison yourself. It's very reactive, and not very predictable as to what strength a researcher is actually making. Apparently it is very difficult to handle after the precursors have been put together. Russia has done by far the most research on this as there are probably 100 variants of this stuff.

We know this, the Russians know this, GB knows this.... What other countries like France are waiting on, is if the Russian government actually ordered this. It may be Russian agents on their own spy network getting retribution with the Kremlin willing to sit it out. It is possible the Kremlin looks either stupid, or not in control of their agents. The UN will be taking this up once reports have been finalized and the EU and the US could be looking to freeze Russian assets down the road.

Bottom line: The Kremlin looks bad no matter if it was ordered or not. And the Kremlin certainly does not want to have to endure any more economic hardship for its Oligarch elites, and or Russia as a whole. EU and US punishment is really not needed. Russia wishes this would go away.

[DMC]

yeah

but why is donna such a scared pussy to say something?

He's a different breed of cat, he doesn't get the same feels you get.

[hater]

:lmao France calls Mays bluff :lmao bearded lady what an embarrasment

President Emmanuel Macron’s spokesman suggested May was acting prematurely. “We don’t do fantasy politics. Once the elements are proven then the time will come for decisions to be made,” Benjamin Griveaux told a news conference in Paris.
https://www.theguardian.com/us

[hater]

Bottom line: The Kremlin looks bad no matter if it was ordered or not. And the Kremlin certainly does not want to have to endure any more economic hardship for its Oligarch elites, and or Russia as a whole. EU and US punishment is really not needed.

Of course they look bad that is the main goal of this propaganda but you are missing the point. UK and Israel at very least have the same nerve agent at hand in their labs so it could have also come from them. Also if both have it US 100% has the nerve agent as well

If Skripal was involved with Orbis/MI6/Trump dossier he could have been attacked to shut him up as he was a proven loose cannon. Also Israel could have attacked him to damage Russia as its happening. Israel is fuming at Russia for interfring in their plans in Syria.

Of course the 2 above are just theories but as valid theories as Theresa Mays theory as also agreed by that article:


Both the Orbis and Israeli theories are speculations. But they are no more a speculation, and no more a conspiracy theory, than the idea that Vladimir Putin secretly sent agents to Salisbury to attack Skripal with a secret nerve agent. I can see absolutely no reason to believe that is a more valid speculation than the others at this point.

[Pavlov]

:lmao France calls Mays bluff :lmao bearded lady what an embarrasment

President Emmanuel Macron’s spokesman suggested May was acting prematurely. “We don’t do fantasy politics. Once the elements are proven then the time will come for decisions to be made,” Benjamin Griveaux told a news conference in Paris.
https://www.theguardian.com/us:lmao You got that from RT. :lmao

:lmao https://www.rt.com/uk/421355-macron-may-russia-blame/ :lmao

:lmao Even though it's what was said, you were ashamed of your source! :lmao

:lmao What an embarrassment! :lmao

[hater]

Rt is a news source as good or bettr than any american tbqh

Not sure why the meltdown

“Eventhough thats what was said” :lol

[Pavlov]

Rt is a news source as good or bettr than any american tbqhThen why did you lie about where you got the quote?

:lmao hateRT

[hater]

Are you fucking retarded? Did you even go to the guardian to check? :lmao

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2018/mar/14/pmqs-may-corbyn-russia-spy-poisoning-uk-it-will-face-equal-reaction-if-may-punishes-it-for-salisbury-spy-attack-politics-live


France says it wants 'definitive conclusions' on Salisbury attack before taking action
France has said it wants firm proof of Russian involvement in the nerve-toxin poisoning of a Russian double agent in Britain before it takes any action in solidarity with the British government, Reuters reports. The report goes on:

In contrast to German chancellor Angela Merkel and US president Donald Trump who assured British prime minister Theresa May they were taking her government’s views on possible Russian involvement extremely seriously, President Emmanuel Macron and other French officials have declined to mention Russia.

After France initialled condemned the nerve agent attack on Sergei Skripal and his daughter and expressed solidarity with Britain on Tuesday, French government spokesman Benjamin Griveaux on Wednesday said it was too early for Paris to decide whether action should be taken.

President Emmanuel Macron’s spokesman suggested May was acting prematurely.

“We don’t do fantasy politics. Once the elements are proven, then the time will come for decisions to be made,” Griveaux told a news conference shortly after May said she was expelling Russian diplomats and suspending bilateral talks.

While he called the attack a “very serious act” on a strategic ally, Griveaux said France was waiting for “definitive conclusions” and evidence that the “facts were completely true” before taking a position.


:lol chump

[Pavlov]

Are you fucking retarded? Did you even go to the guardian to check? :lmao

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2018/mar/14/pmqs-may-corbyn-russia-spy-poisoning-uk-it-will-face-equal-reaction-if-may-punishes-it-for-salisbury-spy-attack-politics-live




:lol chumpYour first quote was from RT.

I put the right link to it.

The word "suggested" is nowhere on the guardian page you linked.

:lol hateRT

[hater]

Read the entire guardian article dumbo

:lol wow

[hater]

Heres a quote from RT btw since some posters seem to like it so much :lol

British authorities are nervous and have “something to hide,” the Russian Foreign Ministry spokesperson has said in response to brash comments by the UK defense secretary, who told Moscow to “go away and shut up.”

“British Defense Secretary [Gavin Williamson] said Russia should 'go away and shut up,'” Maria Zakharova wrote on Facebook. “What could he say, the defense minister of a country that conceals information on the use of chemical-warfare agents on its soil?” she asked.“London has something to hide. The partners are nervous.”

[pgardn]

Russian scientist accidentally exposed took 5 years to die. Of course the US and GB do research on this stuff as they were asked by Uzbekistan to dismantle old production facilities to get rid of the stuff because it is very difficult to work with. Which is part of the reason its application in warfare is sketchy as it's very easy to poison yourself. It's very reactive, and not very predictable as to what strength a researcher is actually making. Apparently it is very difficult to handle after the precursors have been put together. Russia has done by far the most research on this as there are probably 100 variants of this stuff.

We know this, the Russians know this, GB knows this.... What other countries like France are waiting on, is if the Russian government actually ordered this. It may be Russian agents on their own spy network getting retribution with the Kremlin willing to sit it out. It is possible the Kremlin looks either stupid, or not in control of their agents. The UN will be taking this up once reports have been finalized and the EU and the US could be looking to freeze Russian assets down the road.

Bottom line: The Kremlin looks bad no matter if it was ordered or not. And the Kremlin certainly does not want to have to endure any more economic hardship for its Oligarch elites, and or Russia as a whole. EU and US punishment is really not needed. Russia wishes this would go away.

Read underlined. There is no doubt it's Russian. The doubt comes from how far up the chain the orders came.

[pgardn]

Heres a quote from RT btw since some posters seem to like it so much :lol

British authorities are nervous and have “something to hide,” the Russian Foreign Ministry spokesperson has said in response to brash comments by the UK defense secretary, who told Moscow to “go away and shut up.”

“British Defense Secretary [Gavin Williamson] said Russia should 'go away and shut up,'” Maria Zakharova wrote on Facebook. “What could he say, the defense minister of a country that conceals information on the use of chemical-warfare agents on its soil?” she asked.“London has something to hide. The partners are nervous.”

Total BS.

Basically all GB has done is put the onus on Russia to find out who decided this.
Again, this could be something the Russian government may allow if the comrades of the brotherhood of spies want to out a defector.

Channel One's Director for News Programmes, Kirill Kleimyonov (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirill_Kleimyonov), delivered the commentary, which concluded with an admonishment for "exclusively pedagogical purposes" to those who "dream of a career of a traitor to the motherland": "The profession of a traitor is one of the most hazardous in the world." He delivered another one "for a broader audience": "Don't choose England as a next country to live in. Whatever the reasons, whether you're a professional traitor to the motherland or you just hate your country in your spare time, I repeat, no matter, don't move to England.

Again this response is very telling via Russian press BEFORE T. May made her statement but AFTER the Russian use on Sergei. It's clear the British took the Russians by surprise in blaming them. They have probably gassed other turncoats. It's just harder to detect. The British got "lucky" finding the Russian spy and his daughter still alive and the agent still concentrated.

For those who don't know: Channel One is really dedicated to Russians. The message to the Russian people can be very different than RT which is for propaganda worldwide. So channel one is very useful for giving Russians warnings or "teaching" Russians how stay out of trouble.

[pgardn]

Making hater wash his mouth out.

Eating fecal material is a bizzare habit but can be fixed.

[Reck]

Trump's admin finally imposes the sanctions the House and Senate passed 2 years ago after Theresa May slapped them with their own.

:lol May having a bigger dick than Trump
:lol World leader

[pgardn]

Trump's admin finally imposes the sanctions the House and Senate passed 2 years ago after Theresa May slapped them with their own.

:lol May having a bigger dick than Trump
:lol World leader

This is how hater really gets hurt.
Looking at it like some MMA match.
No wonder he hated Obama. He had no time to entertain the silly stuff while Trump bathes in it for the 1/3.

[hater]

:lmao treating a tv commentator as voice if kremlin

This is like an idiot taking Sean Hannity commentary as voice from US govmt

:lmao “fox is a channel for americans so its the voice of american govmt”

:lol

[RandomGuy]

He's a different breed of cat, he doesn't get the same feels you get.

I generally agree Russia's efforts had little overall effect, but it wasn't for a lack of trying. The question is, whether we should put up with active efforts of an intelligence agency of a foreign government to attack the very idea of democracy itself. Western liberal democracy is under threat from authoritarian regimes. That is important.

There is also the matter that the sitting president appears to be actively compromised by that same government.

But then, predicting what Trump will, or won't do is sort of a mugs game. He never fails to do the stupidest shit possible, just when you think he can't be dumber.

The thing about a good theory though, it that it both explains facts, and you can make testable predictions.

Fact 1:
Russia attempted to hack our electoral process through a multi-pronged attack.

Fact 2:
Donald "look how big my inauguration crowd was" Trump has done nothing but deny this even happened, and has gone so far as to take the extraordinary effort to delegitimize his own intelligence services when they something did happen. He has shown no willingness whatsoever to hold Russia to account for anything.

Fact 3:
Donald Trump has a pattern of criticizing anyone, and everyone at the drop of a hat. Allies, enemies, courts, free press, nothing has escaped his remarks and twitter feed, except for ONE/(two) thing(s), and that is Russia/Putin

Fact 4:
Russian efforts appeared designed to support Trump

Fact 5:
Trump directly called on Russia publicly to support his efforts to get elected.

Fact 6:
Donald Trump has gone out of his way to meet and talk with Putin privately in person, with no American witnesses. This is the only leader with which he has acted in this manner.

Fact 7:
Donald Trump, when forced to sign a bipartisan sanctions bill passed with a veto-proof majority of both houses of Congress, issued a signing statement saying most of it was unconstitutional, and that his administration would enforce it as little as possible.


Fact 8:
when Russia retaliated against sanctions by forcing the US embassy to cut staff, Trump thanked Putin for the action, making him look weak, something he has said one should never do, and is inconsistent with his past behavior in any other regard.

Fact 9:
Shortly after State Department appoves some material arms sales to Ukraine and Tillerson directly calls out Russia for using nerve gas in Britain, he is fired.

Theory:
Donald Trump has been compromised in some way. Either he directly owes them money, or they have evidence of some kind of him breaking the law or doing something he does not want others to know about.

This theory explains those facts, and is fully consistent with observed reality.

Prediction:
Donald Trump will take no action personally, nor will he criticize Russia or Putin in any way in regards to the Russian attack on our elections. He may allow his underlings to do some minor, inconsequential stuff, and if forced to do anything by Congress will drag his feet, if not outright attempt to veto any sanctions.


The way to falsify the theory:
1) Trump criticizes Putin/Russia (good)
2) Trump orders/takes action that materially harms Russian interests (definitive)

Bullshit conspiracy theories fail very often because either: they cannot be falsified, or they directly conflict with observed reality. This theory can be falsified, and does not conflict with what we know as fact.

Donald Trump is unpredictable except for Russia.


This theory predicts that Trump will not support May in either action or words, despite his past support for her.

[pgardn]

All in Hateraide:

The Guardian. U.K.,US, France, Germany all agree.

We share the UK assessment that there is no plausible alternative explanation, and note that Russia’s failure to address the legitimate request by the UK government further underlines its responsibility.”

So you think it was Russian government order, standing decision left up to the brotherhood of spies, or some Russian spies in the UK went rogue? Russia is going to have to find out, or not, and face more financial hurts. These are vacation spots and places where serious Russian money holds assets.




And this is what is so ironic. Russians with $ are not gonna keep that cash in Russia, because it could be gone in a Vlad decision, or just overall worthless. They gotta keep their money in the West if they want the goods. This then leads the West to have a stranglehold on the Russian big wigs. If Russia had a working economy like the West, this would not be necessary. And unlike China, Russian products can be largely dismissed as unecessary. They hold zero financial cards. Especially with the US petroleum capabilities at endless due to new technologies and finds. The threat to shut down gas pipelines has led to a US market!

So the Russian people deserve this shit because the Russian leaders can't make their own country work?
HATER APPLAUDES THE RUSSIAN PEOPLE SUFFERING DUE TO INCOMPETENCE AND CORRUPTION.

[RandomGuy]

Nikolai Glushkov, Russian Exile Linked To A Putin Critic, Dies In London

Nikolai Glushkov, a Russian exile who was a close friend of a noted critic of President Vladimir Putin, has died from an "unexplained" cause in London, police say. The Metropolitan Police says that its counterterrorism unit is handling the case "because of associations that the man is believed to have had."

Glushkov, 68, was a close friend of Russian oligarch Boris Berezovsky, a prominent critic of the Kremlin who was found dead in 2013. At the time, an inquiry found he had hanged himself — but Glushkov publicly disputed the idea that his friend and former business ally would have killed himself.

As British media began reporting Glushkov's death, the police issued a statement saying, "An investigation is underway following the death of a man in his 60s in Kingston borough."

The London Ambulance Service had called police after being summoned to a house in New Malden, where the man was found dead.

"The death is currently being treated as an unexplained," police said, adding that the Metropolitan Police Counter Terrorism Command is leading the investigation as a precaution.

Police said that they believe they know the man's identity and that his family has been notified, but that officials are still awaiting a formal identification.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/03/13/593202135/nikolai-glushkov-russian-exile-linked-to-a-putin-critic-dies-in-london

[pgardn]

Nikolai Glushkov, Russian Exile Linked To A Putin Critic, Dies In London

Nikolai Glushkov, a Russian exile who was a close friend of a noted critic of President Vladimir Putin, has died from an "unexplained" cause in London, police say. The Metropolitan Police says that its counterterrorism unit is handling the case "because of associations that the man is believed to have had."

Glushkov, 68, was a close friend of Russian oligarch Boris Berezovsky, a prominent critic of the Kremlin who was found dead in 2013. At the time, an inquiry found he had hanged himself — but Glushkov publicly disputed the idea that his friend and former business ally would have killed himself.

As British media began reporting Glushkov's death, the police issued a statement saying, "An investigation is underway following the death of a man in his 60s in Kingston borough."

The London Ambulance Service had called police after being summoned to a house in New Malden, where the man was found dead.

"The death is currently being treated as an unexplained," police said, adding that the Metropolitan Police Counter Terrorism Command is leading the investigation as a precaution.

Police said that they believe they know the man's identity and that his family has been notified, but that officials are still awaiting a formal identification.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/03/13/593202135/nikolai-glushkov-russian-exile-linked-to-a-putin-critic-dies-in-london

Ok then, again.

Wonderful timing.

Channel One's Director for News Programmes, Kirill Kleimyonov (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirill_Kleimyonov), delivered the commentary, which concluded with an admonishment for "exclusively pedagogical purposes" to those who "dream of a career of a traitor to the motherland": "The profession of a traitor is one of the most hazardous in the world." He delivered another one "for a broader audience": "Don't choose England as a next country to live in. Whatever the reasons, whether you're a professional traitor to the motherland or you just hate your country in your spare time, I repeat, no matter, don't move to England.

Thewarning above is certainly to be taken seriously.

[djohn2oo8]

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hater :lmao

[hater]

Lol nato allies supporting a nato ally. Breaking news :lol

[hater]

Trump's admin finally imposes the sanctions the House and Senate passed 2 years ago after Theresa May slapped them with their own.

:lol May having a bigger dick than Trump
:lol World leader

:lol she looks like she should be making cookies for Mr Bean :lol

[djohn2oo8]

Lol nato allies supporting a nato ally. Breaking news :lol

Guess you can no longer say "but it wasn't Russia" :lmao

[hater]

On the 8th March we reported that the story of double agent Sergei Skripal was not what it seemed at first sight. We reported that there was a major difference between Alexander Litvinenko and Sergei Skripal, which is not being reflected in the media. Skripal is a traitor, a double agent who sold the identities of hundreds of Russian agents abroad to the UK, in exchange for hard cash. He is even a traitor to Britain. He may very well have caused the deaths of some of those Russian agents operating in conflict zones. Skripal had many, many enemies.

We also reported unlike the mainstream media (at the time) that Nerve agents including Sarin and VX are manufactured by the British Government in Porton Down, just 8 miles from where Sergei Skripal was attacked with a so-called Novichok.

Today, we have reported that an ex UK Ambassador has confirmed that the Novichok Story Is Indeed Another Iraqi WMD Scam

On 12th March we exposed what Skripal did for a living with confirmation from a former Russian intelligence officer who now lives in exile in Britain. He said Skripal was still working with Russian military intelligence.

“You have a Russian military intelligence officer working in the Russian diplomatic service, living after retirement in the U.K. working in cybersecurity and every month going to the [Russian] embassy to meet military intelligence officers.”

https://www.globalresearch.ca/novichok-and-theresa-mays-45-minute-moment/5632251

[hater]

Will the US and Israel attack Syria together? The Kuwaiti daily Al-Jarida on Saturday reported that the US and Israel are working on a plan to attack Syria. According to the report, Jerusalem and Washington are disappointed in Russia’s involvement. Sources close to Washington told Al-Jarida that the Trump administration may present such an attack as a response to claims of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s recent use of chemical weapons.

Heightened conflict in Syria

Israel have grown weary of the Syrian conflict. They see Iran and Russia as a threat. America is weary of the Syrian conflict. Donald Trump wants this conflict over as soon as. The war in Syria has been raging now for seven years with no end in sight.

With Iran and Russia supported by China essentially fighting the US led coalition forces, the tension has now reached boiling point and with so many international forces operating in such close proximity, the danger now exists that any mistake could trigger a larger conflict outside Syria.

A final push to end the conflict begins a very dangerous stage. Allies on both sides have been called to arms.

[RandomGuy]

]Rt is a news source as good or bettr than any american [/B]tbqh

Not sure why the meltdown

“Eventhough thats what was said” :lol

Dude, I have always suspected you were a paid troll. Shit like this... makes me feel I am right. :lol

[Pavlov]

:lmao treating a tv commentator as voice if kremlin

This is like an idiot taking Sean Hannity commentary as voice from US govmt

:lmao “fox is a channel for americans so its the voice of american govmt”

:lolIf the US government owned 51% of Fox it would be the voice of American government.

The Russian government owns 51% of Channel One; Channel One is one voice of Russian government.

[hater]

Dude, I have always suspected you were a paid troll. Shit like this... makes me feel I am right. :lol

Cnn, wapo, rt are all propaganda machines of equal magintude tbqh

You can still get news from them

Lol the “we the good guys” “they the bad guys” simplenton mentality :lol

[RandomGuy]

Cnn, wapo, rt are all propaganda machines of equal magintude tbqh

You can still get news from them

Lol the “we the good guys” “they the bad guys” simplenton mentality :lol

RT is an official government-run news site. Pure propaganda and total bullshit. It is inferior even to Fox news, and that is saying something.

Don't you have some boots to be licking?

Do you think that Putin should be killing his critics?

[pgardn]

Dude, I have always suspected you were a paid troll. Shit like this... makes me feel I am right. :lol

If Hater is paid to get crushed on a site like this....?

Hater owes his handlers a bunch of back pay.
The guy is just awful at this.

[hater]

RT is an official government-run news site. Pure propaganda and total bullshit. It is inferior even to Fox news, and that is saying something.

Don't you have some boots to be licking?

Do you think that Putin should be killing his critics?


Meh it has some good content and news as does cnn, wapo, etc

Actually their newsfeed is quick and dynamic much more so than cnn, fox which are slow and old fashioned

It is similar to huffpost in that way

In the nd they are all propaganda but still a good news source.

Well agree to disagree :tu

[koriwhat]

You're free to show who wants it down. It's your claim that nobody is believing, not the other way around

yeah yeah yeah blake... i'm the delusional one. lmao

[djohn2oo8]

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[hater]

The former Soviet scientist, Vil Mirzanyanov, who 'blew the whistle' and wrote about the 'Novichoks', now lives in a $1 million home in the United States. The AFP news agency just interviewed him about the recent incident:

Mirzayanov, speaking at his home in Princeton, New Jersey, said he is convinced Russia carried it out as a way of intimidating opponents of President Vladimir Putin.
"Only the Russians" developed this class of nerve agents, said the chemist. "They kept it and are still keeping it in secrecy."

The only other possibility, he said, would be that someone used the formulas in his book to make such a weapon.


:lol so basically the guy is sayin its definitely Russia OR SOMEONE THAT READ THE FORMULA ON MY BOOK


:lmao :lol holeeee sheeet

[hater]

:lol Mueller Time :lol

Dis niga gets around :wow

WASHINGTON - In the immediate aftermath of the 2001 anthrax attacks, White House officials repeatedly pressed FBI Director Robert Mueller to prove it was a second-wave assault by Al Qaeda, but investigators ruled that out, the Daily News has learned.

After the Oct. 5, 2001, death from anthrax exposure of Sun photo editor Robert Stevens, Mueller was "beaten up" during President Bush's morning intelligence briefings for not producing proof the killer spores were the handiwork of terrorist mastermind Osama Bin Laden, according to a former aide.

"They really wanted to blame somebody in the Middle East," the retired senior FBI official told The NY Daily News.

[djohn2oo8]

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[pgardn]

Meh it has some good content and news as does cnn, wapo, etc

Actually their newsfeed is quick and dynamic much more so than cnn, fox which are slow and old fashioned

It is similar to huffpost in that way

In the nd they are all propaganda but still a good news source.

Well agree to disagree :tu

No you don't. RG must think you are willingly ignorant. Or a paid shill, which is laughable because you are so bad at this.

Ex.

Obama adm was very secretive about the drone war and deaths caused by the drone war.

How does the World know, the Washington Post:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/secrecy-defines-obamas-drone-war/2011/10/28/gIQAPKNR5O_story.html?utm_term=.54040e95a43f

There are a huge number of articles like this critical of ALL of our presidents and administrations. It's their job. And you have the complete daftness to compare this to a GOVERNMENT run RT news. You cannot possibly be this stupid.

In addition, you want rapid and dynamic, then you keep up with your CNN, FOX, and govt run RT and you will get immediacy. And it will be be accompanied by analysis based on a tiny amount of information that is wrong. Because no time is given for more important facts to unfold. You are after the latest gossip like an old woman, not the truth. You are why CNN, FOX even exist and are watched. "I want my presents NOW mummy" Immediate gratification for your bizzare views are easy to find.

*pulls sword out of hater's body cavity*

But the ignorant zombie survives.

[hater]

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:lmao Teresa May :lol

Old bearded lady shud b baking cookies for Mr Bean not leading great britain :lmao

[pgardn]

The former Soviet scientist, Vil Mirzanyanov, who 'blew the whistle' and wrote about the 'Novichoks', now lives in a $1 million home in the United States. The AFP news agency just interviewed him about the recent incident:

Mirzayanov, speaking at his home in Princeton, New Jersey, said he is convinced Russia carried it out as a way of intimidating opponents of President Vladimir Putin.
"Only the Russians" developed this class of nerve agents, said the chemist. "They kept it and are still keeping it in secrecy."

The only other possibility, he said, would be that someone used the formulas in his book to make such a weapon.


:lol so basically the guy is sayin its definitely Russia OR SOMEONE THAT READ THE FORMULA ON MY BOOK


:lmao :lol holeeee sheeet

Someone....

Someone who was an expert at playing with the stuff. And his type of precursors are very different from the Russian ones. The old guy was thrown out and lives here. He maybe covering his ass out of fear. They had over 100 different final products, and even more precursors, all of which are extremely dangerous (not the precursors) to handle and different from his.

But someone...

So Britian has planted this compound to poison police and two Russians because May is in political trouble. That's always the incredibly twisted logic.

My car won't start. A ghost has been playing with the engine. Go down that trail. Enjoy the journey.

[hater]

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:lmao holy shit what an embarrasing fuckup this will be :lmao

[pgardn]

Analyse the following and tell us about it hater

A wide range of potential structures have been reported. These all feature the classical organophosphorus (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organophosphorus) core (sometimes with the P=O replaced with P=S or P=Se), which is most commonly depicted as being a phosphoramidate (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphoramidate) or phosphonate (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphonate), usually fluorinated (c.f. monofluorophosphate (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monofluorophosphate)). The organic groups are subject to more variety; however, a common substituent is phosgene oxime (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosgene_oxime) or analogues thereof. This is a potent chemical weapon in its own right, specifically as a nettle agent (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nettle_agent), and would be expected to increase the harm done by the Novichok agent. Many claimed structures from this group also contain cross-linking agent (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-linking_agent) motifs which may covalently bind to the acetylcholinesterase (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetylcholinesterase) enzyme's active site in several places, perhaps explaining the rapid denaturing of the enzyme that is claimed to be characteristic of the Novichok agents.



What does this mean. I will return to look at your response.
Farewell.

[hater]

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Teres:lol M:loly

[hater]

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[hater]

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[pgardn]

974631190123700224

:lmao holy shit what an embarrasing fuckup this will be :lmao

Quack.

Knows nothing about the ID process of these things. Just you basic political philosopher

Ahmed's academic work has focused on the systemic causes of mass violence. He was a tutor at the Department of International Relations, University of Sussex (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Sussex), and has lectured at Brunel University (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brunel_University)’s Politics & History Unit at both undergraduate and postgraduate levels, for courses in international relations theory, contemporary history, empire and globalization.[2 (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nafeez_Mosaddeq_Ahmed#cite_note-Sussex-2)

And thrown off the Guardian 3 years ago as a blogger.
Can't get a job, look for hater clicks...

[hater]

Wait is Mays theory that Novichom wqs planted in daughters bag in Russia??? :lmao

This deadliest chemical was doormant thru the trip And somehow miraculously it only became active on park bench days later????

:lmao. Teres:lol M:loly

[RandomGuy]

Do you think that Putin should be killing his critics?


Meh it has some good content and news as does cnn, wapo, etc

Actually their newsfeed is quick and dynamic much more so than cnn, fox which are slow and old fashioned

It is similar to huffpost in that way

In the nd they are all propaganda but still a good news source.

Well agree to disagree :tu

Do you think that Putin should be killing his critics?

[RandomGuy]

"In 2013 Russian President Vladimir Putin's officially declared salary was about 306,000 rubles ($9,500) a month. In 12 months he earned 3,672,000 rubles ($115,000). The following year his earnings drastically increased, exceeding 640,000 rubles ($16,000) a month and 7.7 million rubles ($193,000) a year."

Not bad. Here is one of his palaces:

https://assets3.thrillist.com/v1/image/1194313/size/tl-horizontal_main.jpg

Seems a bit beyond his salary don't you think?

[hater]

Meh we been killing our critics as well. Malcolm x, luther king, etc

Because every ex US president is living in a middle class home :lmao

[hater]

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[Pavlov]

Meh we been killing our critics as well. Malcolm x, luther king, etcWho are you saying killed those two?


Because every ex US president is living in a middle class home :lmaoPutin is the current president. Has he ever had a job outside of government?

[hater]

:lmao even British MPs jumping ship on the theory

:lmao B:lolris Jh:lolnson

974593174562836482

[hater]

Pavlov actually nailed this on the 2nd post of this thread

Good job niga :lmao

[pgardn]

I got a line.
May trying to take attention away from Brexit news which is constant in GB.
This could be useful.

Hater late...

[hater]

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:lmao Teres:lol M:loly

b:lolris Jh:lolnson :lmao

[pgardn]

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:lmao Teres:lol M:loly

b:lolris Jh:lolnson :lmao

Exactly what does this change?

There are over 100 variants.
The Russians refuse to cooperate with an investigation.
Let them prove the free world wrong.

If this is a big fat farce, let them prove it. Invite ALL the western press.
We have a clear allegation. We have a very simple way to prove they were not involved with the chemical used. Answer the questions. It's easy. Then it will lead right back to the UK. The US, France, and the Germans, all of whom understand the allegation, will know May is lying.

If not the Oligarchs get their money in the West frozen. Some western companies, who know the risk of doing business in Russia, will experience some bad months. Maybe it is all good in the long run. Let Russia become self sufficient.

btw... why even keep your fortune with Western financial institutions? Just put it in Russian investments and bonds. Where, if you get on the wrong side of Putin, you and your money, disappear. They even went so far as to out some of the people responsible for doping their Olympic athletes when they fdup. Does not take much to lose your life in a place your life is worthless. In the context of the motherland.

[djohn2oo8]

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Yet Trump congratulates Putin.

[pgardn]

976939110639263744
Yet Trump congratulates Putin.

Then throws out 60 diplomats and does not rule out sanctions on Putin himself.

Putin the thug testing the waters.
Found out it's a bit cold.

[koriwhat]

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Yet Trump congratulates Putin.

likely is the keyword here... speculation isn't truth no matter how you spin it. so it went from a for sure thing to a likely scenario but russia has to prove themselves? the whole russia thing is hysterical.

[koriwhat]

kyle griffin = the drudge report of the far left loons.

he almost regurgitates bs as bad as boutons does here.

[pgardn]

likely is the keyword here... speculation isn't truth no matter how you spin it. so it went from a for sure thing to a likely scenario but russia has to prove themselves? the whole russia thing is hysterical.

The probability of the brotherhood of spies getting him and his daughter or the Russian government even ordering it is so much likelier than a ludicriously stupid false flag crap it's not even close. It's still possible I'm being fooled by US going to the moon, but not likely. All you have to do is read the RUSSIAN reports right AFTER it happened, not AFTER May called them out. The Russians back pedaled big time. Regardless, the Russians KNOW how this went down. They look bad either way. They got spies who went rogue, it was ordered, it was ordered high level, they know. The big problem for them is the people they were trying to poison were found ALIVE. We would have read about this and known nothing if they had not been found alive with symptoms illustrated. This has happened before to Russian expatriates, found dead without any way of knowing exactly what happened. It was bad luck for the Russians.
They know and they are not saying. They could hold a non discussed back room meeting and say "you see these these guys right here, they did it without Our approval and are dangerous". We have them now. This was not an act of war. Furthermore, this is how we will prevent this in the future.

Done. Over.

But this ain't happening. So they get sanctioned.

[Chris]

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