i hear austin is a blast

[clambake]

wtf is going on?

[boutons_deux]

White supremacists terrorizing blacks?

[clambake]

oh

here we go

[clambake]

White supremacists terrorizing blacks?
:lol damn boo, i thought you were horsing around.

[SpursforSix]

wtf is going on?

probably protesting the commercialization of SXSW

[Pavlov]

Obviously antifa.

[Pavlov]

All up and down the east side doesn't seem like a coincidence though.

[Trill Clinton]

White supremacists terrorizing blacks?

[koriwhat]

All up and down the east side doesn't seem like a coincidence though.

East side atx? You mean hipsterville? The great take over yrs ago by the mass exodus of hipsters from downtown atx.

[spurraider21]

if only the victims had more bombs to defend themselves from other bomb owners

[The Gemini Method]

Well, that's certainly fucked up.

[Pavlov]

East side atx? You mean hipsterville? The great take over yrs ago by the mass exodus of hipsters from downtown atx.I mean it's the most likely place where minorities live.

They aren't calling them the hipster bombings.

Unless your latest conspiracy is that hipsters are targeting minorities.

Since you're terrified to answer questions, I will have to conclude that your conspiracy is hipsters are targeting minorities.

and lol

[koriwhat]

I mean it's the most likely place where minorities live.

They aren't calling them the hipster bombings.

Unless your latest conspiracy is that hipsters are targeting minorities.

Since you're terrified to answer questions, I will have to conclude that your conspiracy is hipsters are targeting minorities.

and lol

My conspiracy is simply stating that hipsters took the east side over and thats a fact last time i visited atx. Youre such a fucking idiot pav... bet you come running with drool when the bell rings.

[clambake]

My conspiracy is simply stating that hipsters took the east side over and thats a fact last time i visited atx. Youre such a fucking idiot pav... bet you come running with drool when the bell rings.

so, you're saying the bomber lives in the neighborhood?

[Trill Clinton]

East side atx? You mean hipsterville? The great take over yrs ago by the mass exodus of hipsters from downtown atx.

973276266437672961

it looks like some very fine white supremacists are behind these terror attackshttp://i66.tinypic.com/141744.jpg

[clambake]

973276266437672961

it looks like some very fine white supremacists are behind these terror attackshttp://i66.tinypic.com/141744.jpg

hey, there's good people on both sides.

[Pavlov]

My conspiracy is simply stating that hipsters took the east side over and thats a fact last time i visited atx.What a bold take.

[koriwhat]

973276266437672961

it looks like some very fine white supremacists are behind these terror attackshttp://i66.tinypic.com/141744.jpg

Horrible people everywhere tbh white, black, green, and gold.

[koriwhat]

What a bold take.

What a true take it is too. Loser pav drooling once again...

[Chucho]

973276266437672961

it looks like some very fine white supremacists are behind these terror attackshttp://i66.tinypic.com/141744.jpg


There goes Trill making everything about race again. :tu

[Pavlov]

What a true take it is too. Loser pav drooling once again...lol tough guy


There goes Trill making everything about race again. :tuSo far it looks like the bomber is making it about race.

[Trill Clinton]

There goes Trill making everything about race again. :tu

The suspect is targeting black families and has killed a child. Take your race baiting to another thread clown.

[Trill Clinton]

Horrible people everywhere tbh white, black, green, and gold.

Agreed and this terrorist attack on Americans has white supremacist written all over it.

[Chucho]

The suspect is targeting black families and has killed a child. Take your race baiting to another thread clown.

Just mocking you, settle down sissy.

[johnsmith]

East side atx? You mean hipsterville? The great take over yrs ago by the mass exodus of hipsters from downtown atx.

You’re super edgy bro!

[clambake]

You’re super edgy bro!

he's here to take a dump.


its the best he has to offer.



johnsmith......how are you and family?

[koriwhat]

lol tough guy

your way to try and discredit me... lol you're a fucking bitch pav.


Agreed and this terrorist attack on Americans has white supremacist written all over it.

doubt it but whatever... the boogeyman is white supremacy in today's world which is just hilarious. walk outside your house and tell me how many supremacists you see.

[koriwhat]

You’re super edgy bro!

what's edgy about telling the truth? really?

[Pavlov]

your way to try and discredit me... lol you're a fucking bitch pav.What a sissy thing to say.


doubt it but whatever... the boogeyman is white supremacy in today's world which is just hilarious. walk outside your house and tell me how many supremacists you see.We just log on to SpursTalk and see them every day.

[Trill Clinton]

doubt it but whatever... the boogeyman is white supremacy in today's world which is just hilarious. walk outside your house and tell me how many supremacists you see.

is there a white supremacist uniform i don't know about? and there is nothing hilarious about white supremacy when human lives is at stake.

[koriwhat]

is there a white supremacist uniform i don't know about? and there is nothing hilarious about white supremacy when human lives is at stake.

keep being spoonfed by MSM... it's ok, you're only in the 98% that are eating that shit up regularly.

[DMC]

Well if you look at the bright side at least theres probably not too many people stealing Amazon deliveries these days.

[DMC]

Agreed and this terrorist attack on Americans has white supremacist written all over it.

Why? Because someone knew how to construct a bomb?

[boutons_deux]

White polo and khaki pants

[Pavlov]

The Roots cancel major SXSW event due to called in bomb threat from this guy:

https://www.austinchronicle.com/imager/b/newfeature/2197046/1de6/DYjXIXYVwAE-4oy.jpg

Why would a grown man make that call?

[TeyshaBlue]

A weird feeling of empowerment? Not that hard to imagine I guess.

[Trill Clinton]

The Roots cancel major SXSW event due to called in bomb threat from this guy:

https://www.austinchronicle.com/imager/b/newfeature/2197046/1de6/DYjXIXYVwAE-4oy.jpg

Why would a grown man make that call?


hmmm

[Trill Clinton]

just saw they had another explosion in Austin. hmmmm.

[Pavlov]

That's a fancier neighborhood than the others.

[Trill Clinton]

That's a fancier neighborhood than the others.

be careful out there bro. looks like no one died with these explosions. i wonder if its a copycat or a larger cell network working together.

[Pavlov]

be careful out there bro. looks like no one died with these explosions. i wonder if its a copycat or a larger cell network working together.I'd believe almost anything at this point. If it's the same guy/group he's working his way clockwise around the city. If the latest victims turn out to be minorities it really reduces the chance of coincidence. I don't get packages delivered to my place so anything like that at my front door would get a 911 call.

[DMC]

Now any explosion will be related until it's not.

[Pavlov]

Hoping the guy injures himself with his own bombs and gets caught. I'm a little surprised there hasn't been any communication from him at all.

[clambake]

Hoping the guy injures himself with his own bombs and gets caught. I'm a little surprised there hasn't been any communication from him at all.

you just assume its a "him"?

might be kathy griffin.

[KenMcCoy]

The one last night was a different design/trigger; used a trip wire instead of delivering a package. I wonder if it's a different person or the guy is escalating/changing his tactics.

[Pavlov]

I'd believe almost anything at this point. If it's the same guy/group he's working his way clockwise around the city.Now many are predicting the next bombing will be on the west side. I could see purposely avoiding doing so.

This is some devious shit. Still not word one from this guy.

[Trill Clinton]

i'm glad this is finally getting some media attention but still not enough. how serious is the local government taking these bombings? i fear eventually a larger bomb will is the end game for the suspect.

[Pavlov]

i'm glad this is finally getting some media attention but still not enough. how serious is the local government taking these bombings? i fear eventually a larger bomb will is the end game for the suspect.The official response from the locals to the feds is everything it could be. It's just a shitty situation. If this guy continues to be as disciplined as he has been this could take awhile.

[DPG21920]

And now the racially motivated angle is less likely seeing as the last one was in a predominant white neighborhood and it was 2 white people injured.

Still no communication from the bomber and it’s impacting different areas and many races.

And that is part of the danger. You have a city which relies heavily on deliveries so people are used to seeing these packages but now there is a fear/anxiety. You also have people jumping to conclusions (race, etc.) when even the FBI doesn’t have that information yet.

It’s on many levels that makes this dangerous.

[DMC]

Agreed and this terrorist attack on Americans has white supremacist written all over it.

You sure got quiet on the race baiting schtick.

[Trill Clinton]

And now the racially motivated angle is less likely seeing as the last one was in a predominant white neighborhood and it was 2 white people injured.

Still no communication from the bomber and it’s impacting different areas and many races.

And that is part of the danger. You have a city which relies heavily on deliveries so people are used to seeing these packages but now there is a fear/anxiety. You also have people jumping to conclusions (race, etc.) when even the FBI doesn’t have that information yet.

It’s on many levels that makes this dangerous.


naw i still think this was calculated and began with racially motivated intentions. the black victims were from influential families and were members of the same church.

[DPG21920]

naw i still think this was calculated and began with racially motivated intentions. the black victims were from influential families and were members of the same church.

So then the guy just decided to try and kill white people after? That makes no sense. The first bombings were in very similar areas. That stands to reason (IMO) that people that live in the same area could work at the same places, go to the same churches, etc..

[Chucho]

You sure got quiet on the race baiting schtick.

:lmao

[Chucho]

So then the guy just decided to try and kill white people after? That makes no sense.

It does in a black supremacist mind.

[DPG21920]

It does in a black supremacist mind.

Look, with how it started and the connections it was perfectly acceptable to think along those lines. It can be dangerous to do so, but it is a perfectly expected reaction with limited information and appearances.

Now that there is more info/new attacks that change that narrative? It is no longer something that seems as likely as it did before.

[Trill Clinton]

i see i have 2 new alerts and i see 2 of my dedicated followers posted but i have them on ignore.

[Chucho]

"I ignore them but I go out of my way to let them know they're ignored."

LOL, pussy sensitive black supremacist upset his obvious racism is too obvious.:lmao

My people had it worse.

[DPG21920]

"I ignore them but I go out of my way to let them know they're ignored."

LOL, pussy sensitive black supremacist upset his obvious racism is too obvious.:lmao

My people had it worse.

I don’t think he was racist. I think he had limited info and a lot of what appeared to be racially motivated attacks. But then the optics changed with the recent attack.

[KenMcCoy]

Another explosion from a package at FedEx sorting facility in Schertz.

[baseline bum]

Another explosion from a package at FedEx sorting facility in Schertz.

Makes you wonder if it's a copycat killer since the last one in Austin was set off with a trip wire. Or maybe it's an organized group and not a lone wolf.

[sickdsm]

Idiots fighting over if the bomber is racist or not. Who cares? People are getting bombed. Does it really make it better or worse? Racism is showing through by arguing if the guy is white or not.

[Spurminator]

Idiots fighting over if the bomber is racist or not. Who cares? People are getting bombed. Does it really make it better or worse? Racism is showing through by arguing if the guy is white or not.

It was perfectly reasonable to speculate racism after the first three bombs. Why does that bother you so much? Why do you take it personally? No one said you were responsible.

[pgardn]

Idiots fighting over if the bomber is racist or not. Who cares? People are getting bombed. Does it really make it better or worse? Racism is showing through by arguing if the guy is white or not.

Islamic terrorists. They targeted white Christians but missed. Damn, wrong news cycle.

Seems the guy is proud of himself and possibly getting bolder. Which is a good thing as these types supposedly don't stop. But this is an occasion when the dreaded ATF/FBI profiling is very important. If hater's ability to pick winners is indicative of the board effectiveness in profiling, the bomber is gonna set records.

[sickdsm]

It was perfectly reasonable to speculate racism after the first three bombs. Why does that bother you so much? Why do you take it personally? No one said you were responsible.

I don't need anyone to blame me for being irresponsible for me to any responsible. Hate crimes and the such are a horrible form of over protective legislation. Promoting a worse reaction based on on motivation of a crime just promotes random acts of violence like school shootings. People would literally get more worked up over a shooter yelling Allah Achbor and killing four than a school shooter mowing down ten random kids.



You did miss my entire scope of my reply though. I'm asking why does it matter more if your spouse or child is dead based on intent?

[sickdsm]

Islamic terrorists. They targeted white Christians but missed. Damn, wrong news cycle.

Seems the guy is proud of himself and possibly getting bolder. Which is a good thing as these types supposedly don't stop. But this is an occasion when the dreaded ATF/FBI profiling is very important. If hater's ability to pick winners is indicative of the board effectiveness in profiling, the bomber is gonna set records.
Again, so it's cool if someone's dead as long as they weren't singles out based on race, sexual orientation, immigrant status, wtf.... I would be less of a criminal if I shot someone while car hacking than if I singled out a transgender? Got it.

[Pavlov]

Idiots fighting over if the bomber is racist or not. Who cares?Knowing motive can help capture a suspect, so I care what his motive is and I'm sure the authorities do too.

What an odd complaint.

[spurraider21]

Look, with how it started and the connections it was perfectly acceptable to think along those lines. It can be dangerous to do so, but it is a perfectly expected reaction with limited information and appearances.

Now that there is more info/new attacks that change that narrative? It is no longer something that seems as likely as it did before.
Lol dangerous

[spurraider21]

I don't need anyone to blame me for being irresponsible for me to any responsible. Hate crimes and the such are a horrible form of over protective legislation. Promoting a worse reaction based on on motivation of a crime just promotes random acts of violence like school shootings. People would literally get more worked up over a shooter yelling Allah Achbor and killing four than a school shooter mowing down ten random kids.



You did miss my entire scope of my reply though. I'm asking why does it matter more if your spouse or child is dead based on intent?
:lmao oh

[sickdsm]

Knowing motive can help capture a suspect, so I care what his motive is and I'm sure the authorities do too.

What an odd complaint.

Hate crimes are not a complaint. They get treated differently. It isn't allot motive.


Tougher penalties based on who the victim is. Got it.

[Pavlov]

Hate crimes are not a complaint. They get treated differently. It isn't allot motive.


Tougher penalties based on who the victim is. Got it.You're bitching about hate crime statutes while people are trying to catch a bomber who has killed people and is currently terrorizing central Texas.

Well, you have that privilege. Got it.

[Nathan89]

Idiots killing in a multitude of ways cars, bombs, etc is not going to do any favors for those arguing to make populace more vulnerable tbh.

[Pavlov]

Idiots killing in a multitude of ways cars, bombs, etc is not going to do any favors for those arguing to make populace more vulnerable tbh.




Oh look, another guy bitching about his agenda while people are getting blown up.

Give us your plan to kill US armed forces -- start a thread about it.

[Nathan89]

That comment is not "bitching" in any way. It's just a comment.

[DPG21920]

Lol dangerous

I don’t get what you think is funny

[Pavlov]

That comment is not "bitching" in any way. It's just a comment.It's bitching in every way, but that's your privilege.

[spurraider21]

I don’t get what you think is funny
because its about as dangerous as calling manu an atheist

[DPG21920]

because its about as dangerous as calling manu an atheist

Nice ad hominem - but that does not make any sense

[DPG21920]

If the police / people start to make assumptions without facts it can be detrimental to getting the case solved and preventing more lives being lost.

Even the FBI does not know the motive. There has been no contact that we know of as to the reason behind the attacks. People are on edge and jumping to conclusions is dangerous for a case.

[Spurminator]

I don't need anyone to blame me for being irresponsible for me to any responsible. Hate crimes and the such are a horrible form of over protective legislation. Promoting a worse reaction based on on motivation of a crime just promotes random acts of violence like school shootings. People would literally get more worked up over a shooter yelling Allah Achbor and killing four than a school shooter mowing down ten random kids.

You did miss my entire scope of my reply though. I'm asking why does it matter more if your spouse or child is dead based on intent?

I didn't see anyone suggest it matters more. I saw them speculate on whether it was racially motivated and you flew in to rescue us from race discussion.

[Trill Clinton]

If the police / people start to make assumptions without facts it can be detrimental to getting the case solved and preventing more lives being lost.

Even the FBI does not know the motive. There has been no contact that we know of as to the reason behind the attacks. People are on edge and jumping to conclusions is dangerous for a case.

I have to disagree with you big brother. In cases like this you have to be open to all possibilities. Looking at our history when it comes to bombs and African American victims, it makes sense to suspect white supremacists were behind these crimes early on.

[Nathan89]

Lol dangerous

Jumping to false conclusions to shape your narrative is dangerous. Raising tension on a populace will certainly have a negative net effect.

[spurraider21]

Jumping to false conclusions to shape your narrative is dangerous. Raising tension on a populace will certainly have a negative net effect.
law enforcement is going to pursue that angle if the facts support it. creating a profile of a suspect to narrow the populace is pretty standard.

when the narrative is no longer supported by the facts (recent bombing targeting white people)... then it could be time to drop the narrative, if you believe its the same person.

as long as you are willing to update your narrative when new facts come into play, i dont see it as "dangerous"

[Nathan89]

There is a difference between being "open to all possibilities" and zeroing in on one possibility.

[SpursforSix]

I have to disagree with you big brother. In cases like this you have to be open to all possibilities. Looking at our history when it comes to bombs and African American victims, it makes sense to suspect white supremacists were behind these crimes early on.

Fine to have some focus on that but still have to keep all possibilities open.

[Pavlov]

Jumping to false conclusions to shape your narrative is dangerous. Raising tension on a populace will certainly have a negative net effect.Yeah, raising the tension on the white supremacist populace would be terrible.

[Pavlov]

You guys really think that all the law enforcement personnel involved were focused on just one possibility?

[Trill Clinton]

Fine to have some focus on that but still have to keep all possibilities open.

I agree. Some people here just seem upset and offended I pointed out the possibility the suspect is a white supremacist.

[Nathan89]

Yeah, raising the tension on the white supremacist populace would be terrible.

Strawman.

The tension isn't isolated between just black people and white supremacists in this type of situation. People start operating on edge if they believe they are the target.

[Nathan89]

My comment wasn't from the police stance tbh.

[Pavlov]

Strawman.

The tension is isolated between just black people and white supremacists in this type of situation. People start operating on edge if they believe they are the target.:lol have you ever been to Austin?

[SpursforSix]

I agree. Some people here just seem upset and offended I pointed out the possibility the suspect is a white supremacist.

Plus you saw Black Panther 3 times. You've got an agenda.

[Trill Clinton]

Plus you saw Black Panther 3 times. You've got an agenda.

My white buddy begged me to go with him the 3rd time http://i64.tinypic.com/2j5h02.jpg

[DPG21920]

law enforcement is going to pursue that angle if the facts support it. creating a profile of a suspect to narrow the populace is pretty standard.

when the narrative is no longer supported by the facts (recent bombing targeting white people)... then it could be time to drop the narrative, if you believe its the same person.

as long as you are willing to update your narrative when new facts come into play, i dont see it as "dangerous"

That is literally what I said and for some reason you took some stance on one microsection of the bigger statement. I’m fine with going with the race angle and literally verbatim said what you did about the initial bombings supporting that angle (and no, I don’t think law enforcement “only” went with that angle).

I however do think it’s dangerous for both law enforcement (unlikely) and people (likely) to run away with things early and with limited information.

I live in Austin, I’m around it (like you do I believe) and people are definitely on edge. When you read online, you see a lot of the race stuff driving a lot of that and whether you believe that is dangerous or not I think it can be counterproductive because people that may be able to provide a tip or do something to help crack the case open may be blinded some.

[DPG21920]

I have to disagree with you big brother. In cases like this you have to be open to all possibilities. Looking at our history when it comes to bombs and African American victims, it makes sense to suspect white supremacists were behind these crimes early on.

I agree - I’ve defended your stance early on and even I thought it was racially motivated after the first 2 bombs especially. But now that the variables have changed, and given the sensitive nature of our country and this situation, I don’t know if people are truly open to all possibilities even as the narrative appears to have shifted.

[Trill Clinton]

I agree - I’ve defended your stance early on and even I thought it was racially motivated after the first 2 bombs especially. But now that the variables have changed, and given the sensitive nature of our country and this situation, I don’t know if people are truly open to all possibilities even as the narrative appears to have shifted.

Respect

[DPG21920]

Austin, especailly in and around downtown are crazy reliant on delivery. From FedEx all the way to Uber Eats and Amazon Prime, there is an entire economy of that in Austin.

[Pavlov]

Apparently two bombs were sent FedEx from Austin to Austin. One went off in the Schertz facility and one is unexploded in the McKinney Falls facility. This could be a huge break.

[DPG21920]

Apparently two bombs were sent FedEx from Austin to Austin. One went off in the Schertz facility and one is unexploded in the McKinney Falls facility. This could be a huge break.

Where did you see the news on the McKinney Falls one? I have not seen that

[Pavlov]

Where did you see the news on the McKinney Falls one? I have not seen thatJust been listening to KLBJ.

[DPG21920]

Just been listening to KLBJ.

Just looked it up on Twitter. Crazy.

[Spurminator]

Police investigating the serial bomber terrorizing Austin may now have several new leads, including surveillance video that “could possibly” show the suspect.

Congressman Michael McCaul told the Associated Press on Tuesday about the potential video evidence. The footage, he said, may show the suspect at a FedEx distribution center south of Austin where a package bomb exploded early Tuesday morning.

McCaul, an Austin Republican who chairs the House Homeland Security Committee, said he hoped “the bomber’

Two congressman have said investigators have briefed them on major developments they hope will provide clues to the bombers identity, including a surveillance video that “possibly shows” the individual planting an explosive device early Tuesday morning.

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2018/03/20/explosion-fedex-facility-near-san-antonio-possibly-linked-austin-blasts

[KenMcCoy]

Another bombing on the Southside of Austin...

[CosmicCowboy]

Damn. This guy is motivated. He wants his own netflix series.

[pgardn]

This is why London is loaded with extensive CCTV.

But we are rightly concerned about cameras everywhere.
Personal anonimity v. info for the good of the whole

We return to the theme.

[KenMcCoy]

This is why London is loaded with extensive CCTV.

But we are rightly concerned about cameras everywhere.
Personal anonimity v. info for the good of the whole

We return to the theme.

Yep, that's it in a nutshell. I'll take anonymity every day...London still has crap like this happen.

[KenMcCoy]

Wow...now saying it is unrelated. A copycat deal with now too?

[KenMcCoy]

Or false alarm

[CosmicCowboy]

Wow...now saying it is unrelated. A copycat deal with now too?
A copycat would be nuts at this point. Literally a thousan feds on this between atf and fbi. They havent released any info on accelerant details.

[KenMcCoy]

Looks like it was an incendiary device not a bomb...

[pgardn]

Yep, that's it in a nutshell. I'll take anonymity every day...London still has crap like this happen.

Islamic terrorists sharing info on the Internet... Not everyone agrees.
Its a tough balancing act.

[CosmicCowboy]

Lets talk about skiing and kill this thread too lol.

[baseline bum]

Wow...now saying it is unrelated. A copycat deal with now too?

Wow, where is that reported?

[KenMcCoy]

It was on Spectrum news, the all day local news channel up here. They reported that the Austin fire Dept had a report of an explosion at a Goodwill facility. But now they are saying it's a false alarm...an incendiary device and not a bomb. So something may have just caught fire in the Goodwill.

Everyone in Austin on edge...

[boutons_deux]

https://www.statesman.com/news/local/breaking-officials-responding-possible-new-explosion-goodwill-store-brodie-lane/WbCpRxpJs3jSXWZtTLz8sN/

[pgardn]

Lets talk about skiing and kill this thread too lol.

I just looked at the Snowcams at CB today.
Place is awesome. Whoever bought your place is having a blast although they did not get a lot of snow this season.
I think the snow before X-mas and New year saved them. The snowmaking is also incredible, they needed it this year.
Apparently they always need it along with snow to open the season. Skiing is one of the reasons I try to stay in shape.
Along with kayak fishing. If you can handle it all day. 9 - 4pm for me on the mountain and take some granola bars and water.

You had the option of picking your times perfectly. That squeaky powder, I love it...

[CosmicCowboy]

Well lets talk about kayak fishing instead. I bought my yaks in 98 before you ever saw one at the coast. I Did regular boat fishing on tournaments etc. But my go to was,yakking the skinny water. Was killin lighthouse lakes before they ever named it.

[CosmicCowboy]

Personal best there was a 30" red on a fly and a 26" trout with conventional gear. Caught bigger in baffin in boats but the yak made it special.

[CosmicCowboy]

I will even give you my honeyhole since ive moved to fresh water at the lake. Go to crab man on the causeway to port A. Go in the parking lot and turn right on the sand road. Count 10 telephone poles. Park and unload. (I was doing this in the dark) jump across the boat channel and there is a 30' cut that opens into an awesome lake there.

[pgardn]

Well lets talk about kayak fishing instead. I bought my yaks in 98 before you ever saw one at the coast. I Did regular boat fishing on tournaments etc. But my go to was,yakking the skinny water. Was killin lighthouse lakes before they ever named it.

My first yak was an Ocean Kayak Drifter made for the West Coast. I was not far behind you in time, except I fished on the other side of the bridge, Brown and Root flats down the sailboat channel made for the old gas rig. But as I was in school I got limited to just summers and holidays. That drifter was perfect. I could stand in it 34" wide, and go in really shallow water. Cept I took my cast net and kept mullet alive in a 5 gallon bucket with an aerator. It fit perfectly in the well made for the scuba tanks. Cast at reds and watch them rise and slurp the mullet. So I cheated. Now, I got a good bait caster and a really good rod where I can feel everything. I twitched some Corkies "fat boys" in the cold this year for trout. But with the hurricane it messed up some of the places I stay.

[CosmicCowboy]

Lake is all hard bottom and wadeable. Flushes with the tide so lots of bait. Hit it high tide.

[CosmicCowboy]

Been there but preferred the mangroves. If you ever go south and want to man up to a big paddle hit bird island and do the kennedy shoreline north of there.

[pgardn]

I will even give you my honeyhole since ive moved to fresh water at the lake. Go to crab man on the causeway to port A. Go in the parking lot and turn right on the sand road. Count 10 telephone poles. Park and unload. (I was doing this in the dark) jump across the boat channel and there is a 30' cut that opens into an awesome lake there.

I have been out in the dark as well.
Its awesome. I have been all over that area.
Ive had dolphin pull trout off my stringer.

I found a great spot way back in LightHouse lakes where the airboats can't turn in but it's only a day spot. I crank the peddle drive down Lydia Ann go two openings past the light house. Turn in and go to those muddy back lakes full of oysters. Throw a 1/8 th or 1/16 ounce gold weed less spoon when the grass is thicker. Tremendous stuff. I could literally give you a screen shot on google earth. It's a lot of work but tremendous. Also catch trout in the morning.

[pgardn]

Lake is all hard bottom and wadeable. Flushes with the tide so lots of bait. Hit it high tide.

Understood. I will look that up. The secret spots are getting very rare with the shallow running boats.

I have caught fish in just incredibly tough stuff. The airboats and thin running boats they have now really torn up a lot of good water that was wide open in probably the late 90s, early 2000s. They just try to scare up schools instead of poling them.

[pgardn]

Been there but preferred the mangroves. If you ever go south and want to man up to a big paddle hit bird island and do the kennedy shoreline north of there.

My friend wants to do exactly that. We both bought the Hobie peddle drives, Outback.

[CosmicCowboy]

I also gigged flounder on lydia ann in the fall. Jump right across from the new designated lighthouse lakes turn out and hit the sand flats across the channel. Slammed some saddle blankets.

[CosmicCowboy]

My friend wants to do exactly that. We both bought the Hobie peddle drives, Outback.

Those things are studly. Im still running old wilderness rides.

[pgardn]

I also gigged flounder on lydia ann in the fall. Jump right across from the new designated lighthouse lakes turn out and hit the sand flats across the channel. Slammed some saddle blankets.


Seriously you are in my head!

I built lights out of PVC, airplane landing light and car battery floating on a big piece of cutout styrofoam. Made a gig out of a stiff rake 4 tines, cut one tine off and bent/ sharpened the other 3. I have gigged some huge flounder in Lydia Ann. One by that old boat wreck. (They pulled it out!) I kayaked at night all the way to the other side with battery and styrofoam. I got a new system now with LED lights. But that is also so much fun. There are so any things going on at night. I saw a dolphin tossing a flounder like a frisbee. Those damn dolphin follow waiting for you to scare fish into the deeper part of the channel. Sheepshead and redfish around as well, just like watching them.

[pgardn]

Those things are studly. Im still running old wilderness rides.

They have completely changed my range. I can get to "trouty" spots now.

[CosmicCowboy]

Not really yakking but was fishing a tournament and we were way down south. Right through the land cut and on the back side of the first spoil islands on the left. Forget the name. Martha something I think. Were jigging croakers since it was for money. We were in waist deep water about a half mile from the boat and had already put several good trout on the stringer. We both cast to some noisy water north of us and boom I got hit and then BOOM I got hit again and a bull shark blew up out of the water in front of me and there was 5' between hiz nose and the dorsal fin. He had my fish. I broke him off immediately but ut scared the fuck out of us. There was no place to run. We just stood there with pucketed assholes for about two minutes waiting for him to come back.

[pgardn]

Not really yakking but was fishing a tournament and we were way down south. Right through the land cut and on the back side of the first spoil islands on the left. Forget the name. Martha something I think. Were jigging croakers since it was for money. We were in waist deep water about a half mile from the boat and had already put several good trout on the stringer. We both cast to some noisy water north of us and boom I got hit and then BOOM I got hit again and a bull shark blew up out of the water in front of me and there was 5' between hiz nose and the dorsal fin. He had my fish. I broke him off immediately but ut scared the fuck out of us. There was no place to run. We just stood there with pucketed assholes for about two minutes waiting for him to come back.

Damn.

You read about that huge one they caught at mud island? 400- 500 lbs?

Another friend I have son got bitten up in the surf at PA. He thought his little boy was joking until he saw the blood. Wade fishing at Pauls Mott I had a small one after my trout but I could sse him. I just Wacked him with the rod tip and he swam away.

My most likely ways to get hurt is cut up on oysters and rays. Those two are my worst enemies. The sea nettles don't really hurt that much when they sting, you just don't want to wipe your eye with the slime. Now the man o war... That's were wading the beach troughs gets nasty.

[pgardn]

Congrats CC

We did it again...

[CosmicCowboy]

I wear long pants and long sleeves and reef boots. The sun is brutal when you are out there all day and like you say, the stinging critters are a bitch.

[CosmicCowboy]

Yep, we stole abother one lol. Heading to bed. 5am comes too quick.

[pgardn]

I wear long pants and long sleeves and reef boots. The sun is brutal when you are out there all day and like you say, the stinging critters are a bitch.

Same.

And one of those Simms face guards. The others get too hot. Wide rimmed hat. Broke down and got the Costa sunglasses. I even wear gloves with fingers cut out because of the top of my hands. My dad gets stuff blasted off his face, I listen to the older people.

If I got water and some peanut butter, I can last. But it makes it less likely you fish hard 4-5 days in a row. So I try and back off the first day. I seriously run, swim, and bike because it's fun and then I can ski, fish, and do those long Yellowstone trips in the backcountry via the sea kayaks. And I sleep thru anything. In the woods and at home.

[pgardn]

Yep. Eyes are heavy.

Good chat.

[Trill Clinton]

wow smh

[Pavlov]

He dead.

[baseline bum]

24 year old SAWM

[benefactor]

24 year old SAWM
Least surprising development tbh

[Trill Clinton]

About time this coward demon was caught. We're not entirely in the clear yet. No telling how many bombs he made.

[pgardn]

He blew himself up? As police were closing in? If so....

The guy was good at his craft then...

[boutons_deux]

bombs make for great TV entertainment, something "unusual, new, and interesting"

guns, drugs, vehicles kills 100s more every day.

Even hospitals kill 50K - 100K / year with avoidable medical errors.

[KenMcCoy]

Even hospitals kill 50K - 100K / year with avoidable medical errors.

I'll join your march against the evil hospitals...

[DPG21920]

About time this coward demon was caught. We're not entirely in the clear yet. No telling how many bombs he made.

Yup. Still have to be careful as fbi thinks there could be more bombs.

[boutons_deux]

Mark A Conditt

https://www.statesman.com/news/crime--law/authorities-bombing-suspect-was-pflugerville-resident-mark-conditt/CQUCcXNJ9nb2iFs8sSq0pK/

[Spurminator]

inb4 "he was Antifa"

[RandomGuy]

24 year old SAWM

Targeted the liberal part of the state, first victims were blacks, and Hispanics, then moved on to the white liberal supporters that are vilified in alt-right circles.

The targets chosen fit that narrative.

This has the earmarks of right-wing terrorism.

[RandomGuy]

inb4 "he was Antifa"

Dammit, you beat me to it. (looks at door for DarrinS)

[RandomGuy]

The white house says it isn't about terrorism.

So now TSA et all. have their marching orders. Get shilling!!! hurry, man the twitter acocunts, pass the posts!!

[Trill Clinton]

so we can terrorize two major cities with bombs that took the lives of 2 innocent people and maimed others and NOT be identified as a terrorist? http://i63.tinypic.com/2ykjlsw.jpg
976456704157278209

[Blake]

Oh yeah, the mental problems line coming for sure

[baseline bum]

Of course this faggot was home-schooled

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/03/21/who-mark-anthony-conditt-austin-serial-bomber/444738002/

[Trill Clinton]

Of course this faggot was home-schooled

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/03/21/who-mark-anthony-conditt-austin-serial-bomber/444738002/


he was living with roommates too. i wonder if they know of a possible motive.

[Blake]

Post from his mom's Facebook a few years back:

"..I officially graduated Mark from High School on Friday," her post said. "1 down, 3 to go. He has 30 hrs of college credit too, but he’s thinking of taking some time to figure out what he wants to do….maybe a mission trip. Thanks to everyone for your support over the years.”

"..

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/03/21/austin-serial-bomber-idd-as-mark-anthony-conditt-what-know-about-pflugerville-resident.amp.html

[Pavlov]

976477588741939200

Obviously Antifa.

[Blake]

Right wing, conservative, home schooled kid that grew up in a Christian home that targeted certain people.

Sounds like such a good kid must have had mental problems!

[baseline bum]

The white house says it isn't about terrorism.

So now TSA et all. have their marching orders. Get shilling!!! hurry, man the twitter acocunts, pass the posts!!

Just like no one talked about Nicholas Cruz as a right wing terrorist after shooting up a high school full of Jews.

[Spurminator]

976477588741939200

Obviously Antifa.

Sounds like a radical Muslim

[boutons_deux]

Home-"schooled" aka garden-variety indoctrinated so-called Christian extremist, full of hate, exclusionism, sanctimonious vengeance

"what would Jesus do?"

His mama otta be proud as accessory to murder

[Trill Clinton]

976479718957514753


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[RandomGuy]

976479718957514753

976479725475500033

Home schooled kid can't handle the reality that his Christian parents didn't prepare him for, it would seem. Preliminary, and not quite conclusive.

[Pavlov]

So you have a guy who committed a crime. Will putting him on a (sex offender) list make it better? wouldn’t this only make people shun him, keep him from getting a job, and making friends? Just for a crime that he may have committed over 15 years ago as a adolescent? On a side note, one fifth of all rapes are committed by a juvenile.

Dude wrote this at 17.

[boutons_deux]

I'll join your march against the evil hospitals...

marches don't accomplish shit

[Blake]

Boutons is grumpy today

[TeyshaBlue]

Today. :lol

[Blake]

Lol. Grumpier that usual.

[Xevious]

marches don't accomplish shit
Would love to hear your thoughts on how to fix human error in hospitals. Most are over worked and under manned. And if you had your way, you'd slash the pay for doctors and nurses making the situation worse.

[Blake]

I'd be cool with seeing hospital ceo salaries getting slashed.

But they won't. They'll only go up. With more bonuses.

[KenMcCoy]

I'd be cool with seeing hospital ceo salaries getting slashed.

But they won't. They'll only go up. With more bonuses.

I was only marching if we're for banning all hospitals...

[RandomGuy]

Would love to hear your thoughts on how to fix human error in hospitals. Most are over worked and under manned. And if you had your way, you'd slash the pay for doctors and nurses making the situation worse.

Checklists.

https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=122226184

Read up on it. The guy has what I think is a REALLY good solution.

[pgardn]

This is why London is loaded with extensive CCTV.

But we are rightly concerned about cameras everywhere.
Personal anonimity v. info for the good of the whole

We return to the theme.


Yep, that's it in a nutshell. I'll take anonymity every day...London still has crap like this happen.


Yup. Still have to be careful as fbi thinks there could be more bombs.


976477588741939200

Obviously Antifa.


I was only marching if we're for banning all hospitals...

So the FBI going too far Ken?
They are looking at all his Oline shit, cell phone, who else might be involved in teaching him.... .?

Which part of the survelliance do you think should be disallowed? I guarantee there are people finding out stuff right now that want to blow the cover off anonimity. Just like after 9-11 and the rise of the NSA.

Think the FBI, etc...should shut this shit down now, if they have to use unsavory methods to find possible other bombs ?

[monosylab1k]

Targeted the liberal part of the state, first victims were blacks, and Hispanics, then moved on to the white liberal supporters that are vilified in alt-right circles.

The targets chosen fit that narrative.

This has the earmarks of right-wing terrorism.


Dammit, you beat me to it. (looks at door for DarrinS)
You can’t mock someone else for hypothetically jumping to conclusions about the attackers’ political views right after actually doing it yourself :lol

[boutons_deux]

I was only marching if we're for banning all hospitals...

marching don't do shit

NRA and BigGun laughing their asses off at students marching against being target practice for You People

States can't fix shit about guns, either, just ask states or cities with pro forma gun regulation, it don't do shit.

[spurraider21]

suicide bomber tbh

[SpursforSix]

marches don't accomplish shit

https://www.history.com/topics/black-history/selma-montgomery-march

The Selma to Montgomery march was part of a series of civil-rights protests that occurred in 1965 in Alabama, a Southern state with deeply entrenched racist policies. In March of that year, in an effort to register black voters in the South, protesters marching the 54-mile route from Selma to the state capital of Montgomery were confronted with deadly violence from local authorities and white vigilante groups. As the world watched, the protesters—under the protection of federalized National Guard troops—finally achieved their goal, walking around the clock for three days to reach Montgomery. The historic march, and Martin Luther King Jr.’s participation in it, raised awareness of the difficulties faced by black voters, and the need for a national Voting Rights Act.

Six days later, on March 15, President Lyndon B. Johnson (https://www.history.com/topics/us-presidents/lyndon-b-johnson) went on national television to pledge his support to the Selma protesters and to call for the passage of a new voting rights bill that he was introducing in Congress.

That August, Congress passed the Voting Rights Act, which guaranteed the right to vote (first awarded by the 15th Amendment (https://www.history.com/topics/black-history/fifteenth-amendment)) to all African Americans. Specifically, the act banned literacy tests as a requirement for voting, mandated federal oversight of voter registration in areas where tests had previously been used, and gave the U.S. attorney general the duty of challenging the use of poll taxes for state and local elections.

[SpursforSix]

marching don't do shit



https://www.history.com/topics/black...ntgomery-march (https://www.history.com/topics/black-history/selma-montgomery-march)

The Selma to Montgomery march was part of a series of civil-rights protests that occurred in 1965 in Alabama, a Southern state with deeply entrenched racist policies. In March of that year, in an effort to register black voters in the South, protesters marching the 54-mile route from Selma to the state capital of Montgomery were confronted with deadly violence from local authorities and white vigilante groups. As the world watched, the protesters—under the protection of federalized National Guard troops—finally achieved their goal, walking around the clock for three days to reach Montgomery. The historic march, and Martin Luther King Jr.’s participation in it, raised awareness of the difficulties faced by black voters, and the need for a national Voting Rights Act.

Six days later, on March 15, President Lyndon B. Johnson (https://www.history.com/topics/us-presidents/lyndon-b-johnson) went on national television to pledge his support to the Selma protesters and to call for the passage of a new voting rights bill that he was introducing in Congress.

That August, Congress passed the Voting Rights Act, which guaranteed the right to vote (first awarded by the 15th Amendment (https://www.history.com/topics/black-history/fifteenth-amendment)) to all African Americans. Specifically, the act banned literacy tests as a requirement for voting, mandated federal oversight of voter registration in areas where tests had previously been used, and gave the U.S. attorney general the duty of challenging the use of poll taxes for state and local elections.

[SpursforSix]

marches don't accomplish shit

But I digress. I'm sure your ranting and raving on a sports message board accomplishes more social change than any stupid march.

[Splits]

Of course this faggot was home-schooled

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/03/21/who-mark-anthony-conditt-austin-serial-bomber/444738002/
rmt

[RandomGuy]

You can’t mock someone else for hypothetically jumping to conclusions about the attackers’ political views right after actually doing it yourself :lol

You misunderstood me.

Not mocking, merely pointing out that we know very little so far. If I gave that impression, sorry.

[Splits]

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[spurraider21]

media didnt call him that. they were quoting an acquaintance.

also lol "executing 2 black men"... i think we can rule out the racial motivation at this point

[Xevious]

Checklists.

https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=122226184

Read up on it. The guy has what I think is a REALLY good solution.
That's an old article and I admittedly didn't read it in its entirety, but most of what I did see there is already in practice. Most, if not all, hospitals perform a "time out" prior to any invasion procedure which includes: correct patient, correct diagnosis, correct procedure, correct location, etc. And towards completion they must account for all sponges, needles, etc that might have been used. I could also list dozens of algorithms in place that guide MD and nursing practice in specific situations all based on research to maximize patient safety and clinical outcomes. But shit still happens.

But anyway, off topic... I'll read the rest later.

[rjv]

976538367260274689

it's mass media's textbook policy. blacks are criminals. if the perps are muslim then look for ties to ISIS. if latino, check to see if gang related or undocumented.

[Spurminator]

976538367260274689

If I had my way, instead of splitting hairs on whether we're dissecting the mental and social states of white murderers/terrorists too much, we'd instead put the same journalistic effort towards all such murderers equally.

The problem isn't only that we call brown mass murderers terrorists, it's that we don't inquire enough on the state of mental health that may have driven them to terrorism. We afford white murderers/terrorists that benefit and typically don't implicate people with similar beliefs as moral coconspirators. The media should treat domestic Islamic terrorism the same. We need to get beyond semantics.

[koriwhat]

976538367260274689

white privilege lol coming from desert scum. hopefully this dude's vest will have him ending up just like conditt.

[pgardn]

They had better be looking up and down this guys family and friends just like they would a 24 yo "Hazid Ahmas" name. And yes, prayers for the families of terrorists who knew nothing about their son getting frustrated with their lives and deciding, on their own, to create havoc. It was not their fault. Or does the definition of terrorism mean you have to be getting orders from a radical group now? Cause this guy was probably ready made as a good recruit (males this age that are violent and frustrated), for a cause in any country that had a movement that needed bodies.

[SnakeBoy]

Or does the definition of terrorism mean you have to be getting orders from a radical group now?

It's the same as has been.

International terrorism: Perpetrated by individuals and/or groups inspired by or associated with designated foreign terrorist organizations or nations (state-sponsored).

Domestic terrorism: Perpetrated by individuals and/or groups inspired by or associated with primarily U.S.-based movements that espouse extremist ideologies of a political, religious, social, racial, or environmental nature.

[Expert]

Seems to me that the van that slammed into the back of Conditt's vehicle likely caused the bomb inside to detonate. I cannot image a person as cowardly as that faggot having the wherewithal to off himself with a bomb just because he was caught.

[Expert]

They had better be looking up and down this guys family and friends just like they would a 24 yo "Hazid Ahmas" name. And yes, prayers for the families of terrorists who knew nothing about their son getting frustrated with their lives and deciding, on their own, to create havoc. It was not their fault. Or does the definition of terrorism mean you have to be getting orders from a radical group now? Cause this guy was probably ready made as a good recruit (males this age that are violent and frustrated), for a cause in any country that had a movement that needed bodies.
Don't you mean "thoughts and prayers"?

Trying to equate a cultural tendency to strap bombs to your belly to a rogue dipshit with a penchant for cowardly troll bombing is pathetic tbh

[leemajors]

Homeschooled Evangelical.

[Blake]

Homeschooled Evangelical.

Oh then he must have just been mentally unstable

[SpursforSix]

marches don't accomplish shit

where'd you go chickenshit?


On March 7, 1965, hundreds of nonviolent protesters marched across the bridge as a part of an ongoing effort to secure voting rights for black Americans. That day, though, Alabama police met the protesters with violent force. Many, including Lewis, suffered serious injury.

“If it hadn’t been for that march across Edmund Pettus Bridge on Bloody Sunday, there would be no Barack Obama as President of the United States of America,” Lewis said during an interview on CBS’s Face the Nation (http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/open-this-is-face-the-nation-february-15/). don’t think as a group we had any idea that our marching feet would have such an impact 50 years later,” Lewis said Sunday.

[Chucho]

where'd you go chickenshit?


Not far if he stays in a single wide, which I imagine is lavish for him. A little further if it's a double wide.

[SpursforSix]

Not far if he stays in a single wide, which I imagine is lavish for him. A little further if it's a double wide.

LOL.

[Trill Clinton]

Hilarious

976599683534639105

[pgardn]

Don't you mean "thoughts and prayers"?

Trying to equate a cultural tendency to strap bombs to your belly to a rogue dipshit with a penchant for cowardly troll bombing is pathetic tbh

No I meant prayers.

There are no thoughts present in your post. Don't use that word.

The point is they had better be looking into his associations with family and friends just like they would a person of Semitic heritage. You can stop the charade you weird old fck... Cultural tendency... what a load of crap...

[Pavlov]

Hilarious

976599683534639105Jeez, I thought he handled this case really well until this editorializing.

[Blake]

Oh then he must have just been mentally unstable


Hilarious

976599683534639105

Called someone using it, just never would have guessed police chief

[Blake]

Jeez wtf


.....

Mark Anthony Conditt*reportedly took part in a conservative outdoors club called Righteous Invasion of Truth (RIOT), in which home-schooled young people studied the Bible and were taught gun skills.




..Conditt is reported to have used to alias “Kelly Killmore” on explosive packages he sent to victims.

Former friends remembered Conditt as a “pretty normal kid” who was home-schooled by his “conservative, strictly religious” family in Pflugerville.

Conditt attended RIOT events with his younger sister, said Cassia Schultz, who was also involved in the group.

“A lot of us were very into science; we would discuss chemicals and how to mix them and which ones were dangerous,” Ms Schultz told*BuzzFeed News.

The 21-year-old added: “We were into weapons and stuff. A lot of us did role-playing, and RPG [role-playing games]; we’d have foam weapons and act out a battle.”

Ms Schultz said many young people involved in RIOT carried knives and learned to shoot firearms at gun ranges, but she did not recall bomb-making being a topic of discussion....

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/austin-bomber-mark-anthony-conditt-texas-christian-righteous-invasion-truth-a8267976.html?amp

[pgardn]

It's the same as has been.

International terrorism: Perpetrated by individuals and/or groups inspired by or associated with designated foreign terrorist organizations or nations (state-sponsored).

Domestic terrorism: Perpetrated by individuals and/or groups inspired by or associated with primarily U.S.-based movements that espouse extremist ideologies of a political, religious, social, racial, or environmental nature.

Perpetrated in order to create what and in whom? You whittle it down and then completely whiff... terrorism?

[Expert]

Oh then he must have just been mentally unstable
Homeschooled = socially retarded
Evangelical = impetus by divine edict

Great combination

[boutons_deux]

'He was a quiet and normal kid': The infantilization of young, white, male domestic terrorists (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/3/22/1751214/--He-was-a-quiet-and-normal-kid-The-infantilization-of-young-white-male-domestic-terrorists)

what we should be saying to the media and to white America about

the pathological need to humanize white men who commit mass shootings.

It is a pattern that people of color are all too familiar with.

It is a pattern that some women can see clearly.

with predictable certainty, the media launched into a series of mind-numbing, willfully ignorant reports in which they obsessively search for answers—

imploring us to understand what would make such a nice, normal white boy do such a terrible thing.

Quiet. Normal. Nerdy. From a tight-knit, godly family. Polite. Unremarkable. No criminal record. Challenged.
These are some of the adjectives used to describe Conditt by major newspapers across the United States.

one person, as reported in The Houston Chronicle (https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/article/Austin-bomber-was-quiet-normal-friends-and-12770427.php?utm_campaign=twitter-premium&utm_source=CMS%20Sharing%20Button&utm_medium=social), has suggested that things may not have been as tranquil on the inside of the Conditt home as they appeared.

The Conditts lived in an old part of the town 20 miles north of Austin.

They kept their children out of public schools so they wouldn't see "the bad stuff in society,"

said the man, who worked with Conditt's father and spent time at their home.

"It was a very 'us versus them' type of household," he said.

"I'm guessing that was a catalyst that led Mark to believe what he thought."

The family held regular get-togethers at their East Pfluger Street home. It was "not a cult," but may have been mistaken for one, the former co-worker said.


Nearly all of them come from suburbia.



And if you’ve ever lived in suburbia in America you know that there are some really ugly truths that must be confronted about these supposedly great places to raise kids.


Whether it’s because of aesthetics, their own selfishness, or this tendency not to rock the boat in signs of trouble, a lot of suburban parents don’t know what the hell is happening with their children.



It's also time we ask what is to be gained by continuing to see these incidents as isolated and outliers instead of



a deeply entrenched culture of violence perpetrated by angry, white men.

And, lastly, it's time we wrestled with the desire to infantilize these killers by framing them

as normal, happy-go-lucky young men who suddenly took a wrong turn somewhere and were inexplicably driven to murder.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/3/22/1751214/--He-was-a-quiet-and-normal-kid-The-infantilization-of-young-white-male-domestic-terrorists?detail=emaildkre