So when is Kaehichael coming back?

[FkLA]

Haven't watched my Spurs in like 2 months, tbh.

[turkish spurs fan]

he is already traded to nets

[daslicer]

He's not coming back this year.

[Darius Bieber]

I'd actually be astounded if he does come back. Even Parker said Kawhi doesn't/hasn't practiced with the Spurs. So first, he'll be rusty. Second, he'll have no chemistry with teammates on the court.

[SpurPadre]

When Trump gets impeached and fucked in the ass in Federal Prison, tbh.

[cjw]

I'd actually be astounded if he does come back. Even Parker said Kawhi doesn't/hasn't practiced with the Spurs. So first, he'll be rusty. Second, he'll have no chemistry with teammates on the court.

To be fair, the rest of the team has played about 70 games together and still has no chemistry.

[Joseph Kony]

Hes not

[emanueldavidginobili]

Pop just said Kawhi hasn’t been cleared to play yet by his OWN medical staff.... this is the weirdest stuff ever, why can’t he even show face at practice or shoot around?

[Darius Bieber]

To be fair, the rest of the team has played about 70 games together and still has no chemistry.

Sounds about right. Maybe Kawhi will fit in perfectly then.

[Arcadian]

You mean Kawhichael

[Ron Swanson]

He's not coming back.

http://i.imgur.com/9z8FXCn.jpg

[FkLA]

Wasn't there a report that he was coming back THURS against the Pelicans? How the fuck does it go from that to he's not coming back at all?

:pctoss

[rasuo214]

I'd actually be astounded if he does come back. Even Parker said Kawhi doesn't/hasn't practiced with the Spurs. So first, he'll be rusty. Second, he'll have no chemistry with teammates on the court.

Did he even practice with the team when he came back the 1st time? I thought I read/heard that but not sure.

[gospursgojas]

Monday.

Kerr paying back Pop for what Zara did and sitting his big 4 to allow Kawhi to come back.

[siraulo23]

He not coming back

Lisa Salters and Woj confirmed he was “aiming” to come back against the pelicans but tp said he aint even practicing with the team. He not coming back this season

[Nathan89]

They'll probably announce that he isn't coming back this coming week.

[HarlemHeat37]

:lol I hate Dad Killer as much as anybody, but comparing Kawhi to him is lunacy, tbh..

Kawherrick Rose is much more appropriate..

[spursistan]

:lol I hate Dad Killer as much as anybody, but comparing Kawhi to him is lunacy, tbh..

Kawherrick Rose is much more appropriate..

I can't believe how soft he's proving to be, tbh..He should have not embarrassed himself by leaking the news he is trying hard to make it back with the Pelicans game as set target..

His reputation on that old school metric of "toughness" has taken a major hit this season..I even imagine vet teammates like TP/Manu are deep down disgusted and taking shots at his mental fortitude in private conversations ..

I don't care if Pop says no; if he doesn't comeback at some point this season after the public vow he made, I would lose plenty of respect for this nigga no matter what.

[monkeypunk]

When Trump gets impeached and fucked in the ass in Federal Prison, tbh.

So, soon.

[spursistan]

Despite what many fans might say, from the Holts' perspective, showing reluctance to commit 200 millions money to a guy who hasn't been able to play 2 consecutive games since May 2017-- suited up for a whooping 9 games on minute restriction ever since-- isn't an entirely irrational decision..

[Joseph Kony]

I guarantee the Spurs will offer him the supermax. because even if he doesnt look good, some idiot will trade for him. Look at Detroit and Griffin tbh, West knew he was damaged goods and still signed him to a supermax deal and found someone to ship him off to and Leonard is a much better player than Blake

[spursistan]

I guarantee the Spurs will offer him the supermax. because even if he doesnt look good, some idiot will trade for him. Look at Detroit and Griffin tbh, West knew he was damaged goods and still signed him to a supermax deal and found someone to ship him off to and Leonard is a much better player than Blake
Agreed..If i have to predict their approach, i think this is their mindset right now and the likely course of action with regard to the Kawhi situation.

Personally, though not a doctor, i just don't think you miss an entire year of your prime with, supposedly, a sore joint and you want me to believe you will ever be the same.

If you are not fucked up physically, you sure as hell mentality-wise-- especially now that his clearance by multiple medical crews has been made a public knowledge.

[Slippy]

Agreed..If i have to predict their approach, i think this is their mindset right now and the likely course of action with regard to the Kawhi situation.

Personally, though not a doctor, i just don't think you miss an entire year of your prime with, supposedly, a sore joint and you want me to believe you will ever be the same.

If you are not fucked up physically, you sure as hell mentality-wise-- especially now that his clearance by multiple medical crews has been made a public knowledge.

That seems easier said than done. On Griffens injuries you know what youre dealing with . Kawhi however, he medically cleared but out for whole season . If its rhe same next season then for me thats a bigger risk to tske on. Too much uncertainty bout this mystery injury. Remember pop quote. Never seen an injury like it . He like older thsn dirt.

[hater]

The poor bastard cannot even wipe his own ass much less come back with 10 games to go

[spursistan]

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[SAGirl]

It clearly doesn’t look like he’s coming back this season...

[BillMc]

975732157263110150

Nice post. So weird that nobody is even seeing him get up shots. Maybe he does so before or after the rest of the team is out there, because he's rehabbing while they're on the court? Wishful thinking on my part.

[BillMc]

I guarantee the Spurs will offer him the supermax. because even if he doesnt look good, some idiot will trade for him. Look at Detroit and Griffin tbh, West knew he was damaged goods and still signed him to a supermax deal and found someone to ship him off to and Leonard is a much better player than Blake


This is probably what will happen. But I'm beginning to think the wisest thing for the Spurs might be not to offer an extension. Let him go out there next year, re-qualify by being All NBA or DPOY, and then, if he does, offer the supermax with the hope that the cash keeps him in SA even if he has issues. And, if he doesn't make All NBA, then you offer an appropriate contract and take your chances in free agency. Probably won't happen as that allows the possibility of losing Kawhi for nothing, but I'd like to see them do it.

[wildbill2u]

I remember back in the day when Moses Malone had an injury that was keeping him off the floor, although he did dress out for bench duty. In his youth, Malone was very remote and untalkative, much like Kwahi. His most famous quote of his career came when Malone was asked by a reporter why he wasn't playing. Malone's answer: "Foot hurt".

Maybe we should give Kwahi a nickname that fits this: "Quad hurt".

[BillMc]

I remember back in the day when Moses Malone had an injury that was keeping him off the floor, although he did dress out for bench duty. In his youth, Malone was very remote and untalkative, much like Kwahi. His most famous quote of his career came when Malone was asked by a reporter why he wasn't playing. Malone's answer: "Foot hurt".

Maybe we should give Kwahi a nickname that fits this: "Quad hurt".

Isn't "Fo Fo Fo" his most famous quote? :lol

[spursistan]

It clearly doesn’t look like he’s coming back this season...
And I still think it's not his coach or the team medical staff who have shut the door completely on it. Pop was very clear as to why he is yet to make his promised comeback.

Notice the studied usage of "his" here..In a sense, he is still the one ruling himself out..

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[SAGirl]

Nice post. So weird that nobody is even seeing him get up shots. Maybe he does so before or after the rest of the team is out there, because he's rehabbing while they're on the court? Wishful thinking on my part.
I have wondered if he just went back to NY to get continued treatment from his doctors, at least for a stretch, thus why he wasn't seen... but really no one knows.

[SAGirl]

And I still think it's not his coach or the team medical staff who have shut the door completely on it. Pop was very clear as to why he is yet to make his promised comeback.

Notice the studied usage of "his" here..In a sense, he is still the one ruling himself out..

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I agree with you. Pop didn't expect him back but never shut him down for the season. He left the possibility open, though he thought it unlikely that he could return, knowing what he knows... the man still isn't ready to go. This is all Kiwi at this point.

[SpurPadre]

So, soon.

We aren't that lucky, are we?

[tholdren]

Hes terrible

[YGWHI]

And I still think it's not his coach or the team medical staff who have shut the door completely on it. Pop was very clear as to why he is yet to make his promised comeback.


I agree with you. Pop didn't expect him back but never shut him down for the season. He left the possibility open, though he thought it unlikely that he could return, knowing what he knows... the man still isn't ready to go. This is all Kiwi at this point.

It's funny how people can think that Kawhi's doctors are just crazy people who would lie to an NBA coach of Pop caliber about a player's injury.

Like it or not, if they tell Pop that Kawhi's not ready, he's not ready. Those doctors wouldn't put their professionalism and credibility at risk just for this issue about a player.

"But but it's Kawhi, not doctors"...I doubt it.

[SAGirl]

It's funny how people can think that Kawhi's doctors are just crazy people who would lie to an NBA coach of Pop caliber about a player's injury.

Like it or not, if they tell Pop that Kawhi's not ready, he's not ready. Those doctors wouldn't put their professionalism and credibility at risk just for this issue about a player.

"But but it's Kawhi, not doctors"...I doubt it.
I didnt say anywhere they are crazy doctors... where are you getting that from?

It’s just the truth, the Pop is holding him back schtick was worn for most of the season by Kiwi’s fans and that’s just not the case.

[MoSpur02]

I seriously doubt the Spurs doctors after all these years were wrong or are wrong about Kawhi as far as clearing him. This guy is about to miss a whole season. I think its more than a physical thing. That's my belief.

[FvckMavs]

where are you getting that from?



The uncle...

[BillMc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnntwcyj4vg

[Leetonidas]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnntwcyj4vg

Interesting that he thinks Kawhis return is imminent when we all know he ain't coming back this year. I will be shocked if he returns tbh

[Slippy]

https://clutchpoints.com/spurs-news-gregg-popovich-tempers-urgency-kawhi-leonard-back/amp/

Weird. It seems , Pop hasnt shut door on a return this season

[SAGirl]

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[spurraider21]

ugh

[Ice009]

Fuck this shit. Man the fuck up. Slowest healer of all-time. Not sure I'd want that on my resume.

[tholdren]

Fuck this shit. Man the fuck up. Slowest healer of all-time. Not sure I'd want that on my resume.

Lol bums on this site say hes all world.... hes grant hill, but less intelligent

[bic50]

Lol bums on this site say hes all world.... hes grant hill, but less intelligent
Thats rich coming from you

[coachmac87]

Fuck this shit. Man the fuck up. Slowest healer of all-time. Not sure I'd want that on my resume.

Easy for you to say...but when Kawhi feels the PATFO are responsible for where he’s at with the injury why rush back? You already did that and it wasn’t the same.

That’s where the awkwardness/discomfort is coming from. Kawhi took it out of the Spurs hands and if PATFO try to dictate anything else whether that’s him playing or not he’s gone.

I honestly don’t think Kawhi cares when he comes back..let’s say last 2 weeks of season...he just wants to play and especially in the playoffs. He’s not busting his balls for nothing...and if Pop takes that away he’s gone. Bye Felicia

That’s why we heard from Kawhi when Pop pretty much threatened him... I think the message got to Pop and now it’s out of his hands. Kawhi is holding them hostage but tbh he feels PATFO put him in that position to do so..

[spurraider21]

the team without kawhi might win in round 1, if they avoid the bottom 2 seeds... but they need kawhi in full gear, fully integrated anything past that. starting to reach the tipping point tbh....

[tholdren]

Easy for you to say...but when Kawhi feels the PATFO are responsible for where he’s at with the injury why rush back? You already did that and it wasn’t the same.

That’s where the awkwardness/discomfort is coming from. Kawhi took it out of the Spurs hands and if PATFO try to dictate anything else whether that’s him playing or not he’s gone.

I honestly don’t think Kawhi cares when he comes back..let’s say last 2 weeks of season...he just wants to play and especially in the playoffs. He’s not busting his balls for nothing...and if Pop takes that away he’s gone. Bye Felicia

That’s why we heard from Kawhi when Pop pretty much threatened him... I think the message got to Pop and now it’s out of his hands. Kawhi is holding them hostage but tbh he feels PATFO put him in that position to do so..

So hes almost lebron durant standard in terms of acting like a crybaby? Or has he surpassed them?

[bic50]

So hes almost lebron durant standard in terms of acting like a crybaby? Or has he surpassed them?
I thought you cared about winning championships

[tholdren]

I thought you cared about winning championships

The right way.

[coachmac87]

So hes almost lebron durant standard in terms of acting like a crybaby? Or has he surpassed them?

I’m not saying I agree with it. Just speaking the truth bud.....

[DPG21920]

Jacoby has been annoying as hell with all of his Kawhi stuff. He keeps pushing and pushing his own views (almost feels like desires) that Kawhi is gone etc..

[peacemaker885]

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[Ice009]

Easy for you to say...but when Kawhi feels the PATFO are responsible for where he’s at with the injury why rush back? You already did that and it wasn’t the same.

That’s where the awkwardness/discomfort is coming from. Kawhi took it out of the Spurs hands and if PATFO try to dictate anything else whether that’s him playing or not he’s gone.

I honestly don’t think Kawhi cares when he comes back..let’s say last 2 weeks of season...he just wants to play and especially in the playoffs. He’s not busting his balls for nothing...and if Pop takes that away he’s gone. Bye Felicia

That’s why we heard from Kawhi when Pop pretty much threatened him... I think the message got to Pop and now it’s out of his hands. Kawhi is holding them hostage but tbh he feels PATFO put him in that position to do so..

Pop's an idiot if he doesn't want him back after a certain point. I don't care if it's one week before the playoffs or even during the playoffs. If he can come back at any point, then he should come back. The Spurs ceiling is much lower without him. Getting him back at any point of the season would be great, especially right before the playoffs or at the start of the playoffs.

As for Kawhi himself, I still think he's a slow healer. His past injuries have kind of shown me that he takes a long while to heal from ailments that I would consider minor. Either that, or he's overly cautious and doesn't like playing with any bit of discomfort or the slightest amount of pain. I could be wrong in regard to what I posted in that previous sentence, but that is what is seems like to me.

[SAGirl]

Fuck this shit. Man the fuck up. Slowest healer of all-time. Not sure I'd want that on my resume.
At one point one has to wonder if he’s just not going to get any better.

[tmtcsc]

I think Leonard will return on Friday against the Jazz. This is a pure guess. It will be the 10 games left mark and coincides with what Woj said - late March.

[Spur|n|Austin]

I think Leonard will return on Friday against the Jazz. This is a pure guess. It will be the 10 games left mark and coincides with what Woj said - late March.

At this point nothing coincides with what anybody has said.

[TheDoctor]

At this point nothing coincides with what anybody has said.
So true :lol

[KDKSpurs24]

Pop's an idiot if he doesn't want him back after a certain point. I don't care if it's one week before the playoffs or even during the playoffs. If he can comeback at any point, then he should come back. The Spurs ceiling is much lower without him. Getting him back at any point of the season would be great, especially right before the playoffs or at the start of the playoffs.

As for Kawhi himself, I still think he's a slow healer. His past injuries have kind of shown me that he takes a long while to heal from ailments that I would consider minor. Either that, or he's overly cautious and doesn't like playing with any bit of discomfort or the slightest amount of pain. I could be wrong in regard to what I posted in that previous sentence, but that is what is seems like to me.
I think Kawhi is one of those guys that has to be 100%. A lot of players go out and play while they feel less than 100%. I think Kawhi needs to start realizing that he’s not gonna feel 100% forever. The only reason I can agree with what he’s doing is because he has a super max on the line.

[Russo21]

Time to retire old boy :wow

[NameLess Scrub]

It's Kawhigrant Hill

[YGWHI]

I didnt say anywhere they are crazy doctors... where are you getting that from?

You said "This is all Kiwi at this point" in a sense it's a Kawhi's decision. That's not the truth. Because Pop has said repeatedly that his doctors didn't cleared him.

It's not "all Kiwi". There are doctors -who saw something in his quad that Spurs medical staff didnt- saying he's not ready yet. They're specialist, not a player's whim.

[SAGirl]

You said "This is all Kiwi at this point" in a sense it's a Kawhi's decision. That's not the truth. Because Pop has said repeatedly that his doctors didn't cleared him.

It's not "all Kiwi". There are doctors -who saw something in his quad that Spurs medical staff didnt- saying he's not ready yet. They're specialist, not a player's whim.
This is all Kiwi at this point. If you tell a doctor you have pain he has to take it at face value. And I have never said he's making his pain up. So you are just jumping to conclusions in your quest.

My concern is really that he has something chronic that really will not get better and that he haS to learn to cope with and deal with the way Timmy learned to cope with a bad knee. And he isn't coping with it well or adapting to the new situation well. I hope that's not it bc he may never be exactly the same player as he was but he could be playing... perhaps not pain free. The point is that Kiwi and his condition are the problem here, not Pop holding him out.... or did you miss that was the point of the comment?

[SAGirl]

I think Leonard will return on Friday against the Jazz. This is a pure guess. It will be the 10 games left mark and coincides with what Woj said - late March.
I considered that game too when it was leaked that he would allegedly play this season in early March. If he doesn't make it to that game he's very likely not coming back this season. Considering the need to gain conditioning, increase minutes gradually, and observe how feels after a game, b4 increasing intensity and minutes, I thought 10 games left was the least # of games necessary to come back safely. Just an arbitrary number with an emphasis on safety.

I am starting to consider the possibility this is a chronic thing he has.

[YGWHI]

This is all Kiwi at this point. If you tell a doctor you have pain he has to take it at face value. And I have never said he's making his pain up. So you are just jumping to conclusions in your quest.

Like pain is the only symptom of a quad injury, right? Like there aren't other things that doctors can see in a quad after the patient was working.


My concern is really that he has something chronic that really will not get better and that he haS to learn to cope with and deal with the way Timmy learned to cope with a bad knee. And he isn't coping with it well or adapting to the new situation well. I hope that's not it bc he may never be exactly the same player as he was but he could be playing... perhaps not pain free.

I'm not worried.

People are saying on ST that Kawhi'll retire this next offseason. A good decision after all. He made some money, enough to have a nice life in SD, and the Spurs will have flexibility to sign a good FA. A win-win situation for both sides.

If he doesn't retire, people on ST say he'll play in LA. A win-win situation again. Kawhi's quad will be a Lakers issue next season. Also, he doesn't even need to play at MVP level to get ton of media recognition, look at the media saying Kobe was better than Tim, every player in LA is overrated by sports media. He'll get better endorsements deals, and the Spurs will get many good pieces in the trade.

If he doesn't play in LA, people on ST say he'll be traded in draft night. Can't imagine a better scenario. Kawhi will continue his career on other team that really wants him as franchise player, a team who is willing to give top picks for making him its franchise cornerstone, and the Spurs will get a super talented young player to build around.

What's the big deal? There is no need to worry. We can see multiple scenarios with a lot of great opportunities for both, the team and the player.


The point is that Kiwi and his condition are the problem here, not Pop holding him out.... or did you miss that was the point of the comment?
I don't. But talking about his condition is better than "it's all kiwi :cry"

[SAGirl]

I could similarly use sarcasm on you: "it's not all kiwi." :cry

[YGWHI]

I could similarly use sarcasm on you: "it's not all kiwi." :cry
There is a big difference between making assumptions about a player in a sense it's his decision not playing, and talking about his doctors and what they say.

You should avoid drama, girl.

[SAGirl]

There is a big difference between making assumptions about a player in a sense it's his decision not playing, and talking about his doctors and what they say.

You should avoid drama, girl.
And you boy" use assumptions and sarcasm to shield you from illogical conclusions.... You are the one who enjoys drama here....
:cry Kiwi

[YGWHI]

And you boy" use assumptions and sarcasm to shield you from illogical conclusions.... You are the one who enjoys drama here....
:cry

"I'm worried...blah blah blah :cry" It's clear that you hate drama.

[SAGirl]

Nah I made a comment about Kiwi and you made at least two assumptions that were incorrect then used sarcasm and became pendantic.
Deal with it.
Or not... K don't give a dam about your need to defend Kiwi even when he's not getting attacked
But the one who made th is a "drama" and even though up that word was you. Ironic bc I am the girl here. :lmao

[YGWHI]

Nah I made a comment about Kiwi and you made at least two assumptions that were incorrect then used sarcasm and became pendantic.
What? A guy used sarcasm in a sport forum...What horrible person.

But you should learn to "deal with it" instead of crying about a guy "become pendantic :cry "


K don't give a dam about your need to defend Kiwi even when he's not getting attacked
Players and teams don't give a shit about fans. Nothing new under the sun. I'm starting to think this is your first NBA season.

But this is not a good excuse to ignore what the doctors of a player say.


But the one who made th is a "drama" and even though up that word was you. Ironic bc I am the girl here. :lmao
I could say it's not ironic since you're the b*tch here.

But you know me, I respect women, I care about people, I'm not the type of guy who would say it.
That's why I didn't replay when you posted about my sour, milk...I could have made many sexist jokes. But again, I'm not that guy.

I still think you love drama. But it's fine, people aren't perfect.

[SAGirl]

Ok whatever Whi... Look who is allegedaly respectful but calls me bitch, calls me girl in a condescending way and is acting pedantic. Who says I made up a drama when all I said was that this is all Kiwi at this point. You need to reassess what you think you are saying bc the one who is acting like a bitch is ypu, the one who used crying emojis is you...
I think you are the one making up drama here and getting all emotional. I guess you aren't perfect either...
. and it's a waste of time to follow you into this kind of twist that veered off subject as soon as you started to get all defensive making pretzel assumptions and arguments. Still value your contributions but this is a waste of time.

[Darius Bieber]

Sources say he was at the Team Photo session today but left before shootaround.

[spursistan]

Ok whatever Whi... Look who is allegedaly respectful but calls me bitch, calls me girl in a condescending way and is acting pedantic. Who says I made up a drama when all I said was that this is all Kiwi at this point. You need to reassess what you think you are saying bc the one who is acting like a bitch is ypu, the one who used crying emojis is you...
I think you are the one making up drama here and getting all emotional. I guess you aren't perfect either...
. and it's a waste of time to follow you into this kind of twist that veered off subject as soon as you started to get all defensive making pretzel assumptions and arguments. Still value your contributions but this is a waste of time.

I'm not sure why people still bother to respond to that dude. His reason d'etre on this forum-- as hater's memorable meme goes-- is to come and wipe Kawhi's ass at every turn..

[dabom]

YGWHI is a Top 10 Poster on this site. I wouldn't argue with that guy. Always correct. On the other hand, sahurl is one of the worst Spurs posters All Time.

[YGWHI]

His reason d'etre on this forum-- as hater's memorable meme goes-- is to come and wipe Kawhi's ass at every turn..

Amazing. Now, we have to find a reason for your existence.

Some guys need to keep talking about Kawhi's retirement next offseason instead of posting about other dude

[YGWHI]

On the other hand, sahurl is one of the worst Spurs posters All Time.
Thanks, bro. But there is no need for this.

Also, there are plenty posters seeking for fake news to make 10 threads about what pick/player will replace Kawhi.

"My sources say" that Kawhi's faking an injury, at the same time he has a career ending injury, he will retire in the summer, will play in LA...so talk about who will be "drafted in his place"

SAGirl is not one of them.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Sources say he was at the Team Photo session today but left before shootaround.

Him not shooting with the team is strange, how could this dude not even pass the ball in layup lines or something like that? It's so odd.

[dabom]

Sagurl has talked shit about Kawhi the whole season. Actively seeking to lose games, and questions the FO at all possible times because Fathead is a trash player. She's been on the shtick all year. Whether she recognizes it is up to her.

Of course I could keep going about the bad takes too and so on.

[spursistan]

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First Parker and now Mills.

His teammates are sick and tired of this dude's saga you can tell..Hopefully they buckled down and channel their disgust positively down the stretch..

[spursistan]

976500289867051008

First Parker and now Mills.

His teammates are sick and tired of this dude's saga you can tell..Hopefully they buckled down and channel their disgust positively down the stretch..


Add Manu..Basically savaging Kawhi for his mental faggotry :wow..


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[loveforthegame]

Mills also had this to say.

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[dabom]

I don't see MVPatty disgusted you stupid fuck. Shitty comprehension, faggot. :lmao

[YGWHI]

976500289867051008

First Parker and now Mills.

His teammates are sick and tired of this dude's saga you can tell..Hopefully they buckled down and channel their disgust positively down the stretch..

This from the our certified speech-language and behavior analyst.

Talking about drama and b*tches overreacting after "reading between lines"

Can't wait until his next post about Kawhi's retirement

[YGWHI]

Mills also had this to say.

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Can't believe that spursistan-troll didn't quote this. What a surprise.

[dabom]

Can't believe that spursistan-troll didn't quote this. What a surprise.

MVPatty trusts Kawhi but here we have faggotistan wrongly speculating like always. What a shit fucking poster. :lmao

[dabom]

Some of you guys make it so fucking easy. :lmao

[coachmac87]

Can't believe that spursistan-troll didn't quote this. What a surprise.

The team isn’t disgusted about Kawhi at all..they understand the person and what type of player he is more than anyone in this forum.

I think the players are tired of being asked about it every shoot around or practice..even if they know if and when he’s coming back they’re not gonna add fuel to the fire..that’ll just the get media all giddy.

The team is fighting for the playoffs and need to focus on that..answering questions about Kawhi I’m sure is getting annoying

[cd98]

Only 11 more games and we won't have to keep asking this question. I'm ready for this season to be done as far as Kawhi is concerned.

[rjv]

one thing ST can't do is just take things as they are. to just accept a player as being hurt and trying to come back but not reaching that point is too vanilla a scenario. so we get the usual ST assortment of uncles, psychosomatic symptoms, lack of trust, ST sources and, of course, the usual ST couch psychiatry, coaching, journalism and so on and so on.

[dabom]

one thing ST can't do is just take things as they are. to just accept a player as being hurt and trying to come back but not reaching that point is too vanilla a scenario. so we get the usual ST assortment of uncles, psychosomatic symptoms, lack of trust, ST sources and, of course, the usual ST couch psychiatry, coaching, journalism and so on and so on.

:lol

And I'm tired of this "cleared" shtick. Lots of players have been incorrectly cleared and got fucked.

[YGWHI]

MVPatty trusts Kawhi but here we have faggotistan wrongly speculating like always. What a shit fucking poster. :lmao

If Kawhi plays other game in his career...Better spursistan pick other sport to follow.

After his "Kawhi'll retire at 26" statement, he should become into a snail racing fan.

[rjv]

:lol

And I'm tired of this "cleared" shtick. Lots of players have been incorrectly cleared and got fucked.

if ST had been around when duncan had his meniscus tear i can only imagine the sort of chatter we would have had then, especially since it was a chance to repeat. posters would have been all over both duncan and pop. they would have questioned tim's toughness and they would have mentioned all the other players who could play through the pain. if pop doesn't make that call back in 2000, no way duncan plays for another 16 years. as you said, there are plenty of players who can testify to that.

[YGWHI]

The team isn’t disgusted about Kawhi at all..they understand the person and what type of player he is more than anyone in this forum.

I think the players are tired of being asked about it every shoot around or practice..even if they know if and when he’s coming back they’re not gonna add fuel to the fire..that’ll just the get media all giddy.

The team is fighting for the playoffs and need to focus on that..answering questions about Kawhi I’m sure is getting annoying

Obviously his teammates aren't disgusted about Kawhi. They're players too, they know injuries happen all time.

I agree with you, these media questions are annoying but I doubt they make the team lose focus on what really matters.

[spurs10]

:pop: “By the time he’s ready to play the season will likely be over and I’ll be sending him to my “Get Over Yourself Summer Camp” to get his mind right for next season.”

Now I believed he’d be playing by now, but since he isn’t I’m doubting he will play at all.

[duncan2k5]

Yall stupid...kawhi has qlways been a fucking warrior for us

[tholdren]

Yall stupid...kawhi has qlways been a fucking warrior for us

You are so dumb

[SAGirl]

:pop: “By the time he’s ready to play the season will likely be over and I’ll be sending him to my “Get Over Yourself Summer Camp” to get his mind right for next season.”

Now I believed he’d be playing by now, but since he isn’t I’m doubting he will play at all.
Pretty much. Pop had already stated he would be surprised if Kawhi plays this season. He had the team focused until the media and leaks from sources made them believe it was possible that Kawhi would come back to play this season. It's still pointing in the direction of him not playing and it's time for teammates to move on bc they lose the focus and determination they needed to have at this point of the season.

Aside from the impact on the team mentally, there really should be a concern for anyone that Kawhi has basically missed the entire season with this thing. That's not a tiny thing, that's not petit, minor, insignificant, etc. It's a big deal.

[coachmac87]

Obviously his teammates aren't disgusted about Kawhi. They're players too, they know injuries happen all time.

I agree with you, these media questions are annoying but I doubt they make the team lose focus on what really matters.

It doesn’t matter. But you can tell the players are trying to squash the questioning by the media..it’s been going on everyday for over a month.

If the players said yeah he will be back or gave any hint..that will get the media to dig even more...

[coachmac87]

Pretty much. Pop had already stated he would be surprised if Kawhi plays this season. He had the team focused until the media and leaks from sources made them believe it was possible that Kawhi would come back to play this season. It's still pointing in the direction of him not playing and it's time for teammates to move on bc they lose the focus and determination they needed to have at this point of the season.

Aside from the impact on the team mentally, there really should be a concern for anyone that Kawhi has basically missed the entire season with this thing. That's not a tiny thing, that's not petit, minor, insignificant, etc. It's a big deal.



The media didn’t fool anybody..Kawhi did. Pop tried to remove the cloud of questioning and left a slim chance of hope. Kawhi then speaks to the media and breaks the silence...IMO that was a shot at Pop and telling him HE wants to be in control of him playing this year...

This chemistry argument is stupid to me IMO..the team as is doesn’t stand a chance of winning anything..so why does it matter when he comes back? He will increase our chances if and when he does..even the last game of the year lol. It just doesn’t fit what Pop preaches and stands by so he can’t openly take that stance..

Kawhi is a top 5 player..his injury isn’t career threatening and if it was he shouldn’t have been cleared by Spurs..PATFO have nothing to lose and everything to gain to let Kawhi do what’s best for him..if not and they dictate things and shut him down while making the playoffs..I promise you Kawhi will be gone!!!

[SAGirl]

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Manu was very eloquent... Not just the fact they lose focus but about how difficult it is to stay engaged with the team when you aren't playing And kawhi being so reserved.

[spurs1990]

if ST had been around when duncan had his meniscus tear i can only imagine the sort of chatter we would have had then, especially since it was a chance to repeat. posters would have been all over both duncan and pop. they would have questioned tim's toughness and they would have mentioned all the other players who could play through the pain. if pop doesn't make that call back in 2000, no way duncan plays for another 16 years. as you said, there are plenty of players who can testify to that.

Interestingly enough I faintly recall this era under the old Spursreport web forum, but from my own memories I was critical of Duncan back then more for losses suffered postseason wise.
Obviously looking back on it my sentiment was foolish and a symptom of youthful pigheadedness.

That being said I strongly feel this Leonard situation deserves a lot more scrutiny because the guy is not suffering from a diagnosable ailment (like Duncan's tear).
And then if you want to argue he's being extra careful as not to affect his supermax offer, then he becomes even less sympathetic from strictly a fan of the Spurs perspective.

[Ice009]

Well, I find it distressing that the players were fooled about when he was supposed to come back. That has really got to be messing with their minds and focus. Darn, Kawhi. GET. BACK. ON. THE. COURT.

[rjv]

Interestingly enough I faintly recall this era under the old Spursreport web forum, but from my own memories I was critical of Duncan back then more for losses suffered postseason wise.
Obviously looking back on it my sentiment was foolish and a symptom of youthful pigheadedness.

That being said I strongly feel this Leonard situation deserves a lot more scrutiny because the guy is not suffering from a diagnosable ailment (like Duncan's tear).
And then if you want to argue he's being extra careful as not to affect his supermax offer, then he becomes even less sympathetic from strictly a fan of the Spurs perspective.

i agree that leonard's almost anti-social personality and the lack of a clear diagnosis make the situation more obscure but there are similarities. back then there was the constant buzz that the tear would heal on its own and that duncan could make it back by the playoffs. had the spurs beaten the suns that scenario would have lingered. it was until early in the summer that the spurs announced he would have surgery after all. of course, earlier this year, pop later admitted that duncan could have played in the playoffs after all. if that had been known then, i'm certain ST would have been all over pop and even tim. the thing is we just don't know and anything else is just conjecture. of course, it is possible someone will wind up being right but it could also turn out that the dude just was hurt and never could get right for the season. what i think is not what i know so, for me, it doesn't make any sense to speculate.

[spursistan]

I definitely wouldn't blame the Holts if they balk at giving him the supermax in the summer. What guarantees you give me this dude won't sit for another season in the future just because he is perpetually unready to play?

Blake Griffin is maybe a damage goods but at least he manages to comeback and play before another 6-weeks of injury timetable plays itself out ; and Jerry West was able to find the right timing to ship his albatross deal out of town..

I could easily imagine Kawhi cashing on on the supermax only to read that he is out for the 2018-19 season opener..Good luck trading him for good value having not played consecutive basketball games since April 2017..

[spurs1990]

i agree that leonard's almost anti-social personality and the lack of a clear diagnosis make the situation more obscure but there are similarities. back then there was the constant buzz that the tear would heal on its own and that duncan could make it back by the playoffs. had the spurs beaten the suns that scenario would have lingered. it was until early in the summer that the spurs announced he would have surgery after all. of course, earlier this year, pop later admitted that duncan could have played in the playoffs after all. if that had been known then, i'm certain ST would have been all over pop and even tim. the thing is we just don't know and anything else is just conjecture. of course, it is possible someone will wind up being right but it could also turn out that the dude just was hurt and never could get right for the season. what i think is not what i know so, for me, it doesn't make any sense to speculate.

I appreciate the recap.... personally I wasn't too up to speed with the Spurs in 1999-2000 but if that scenario played out in 2018 no doubt the internet would be unforgiving.
However I am still reluctant to say Leonard at this stage is close to the importance of a Tim Duncan three years into his career. In fact I would say they are miles apart when you factor leadership traits especially.

But what has irked me is that if today's quote from Manu Ginobili is accurate, then even Leonard's teammates are falling victim to reports of national broadcasters.
Like that deepens the mystery to another level. How out of touch is KL with the organization that a Manu Ginobili is expecting his return based on reading an article on espn.com!

I will be more than happy to admit all of this was forgivable if a year from now Kawhi Leonard is performing at his 2015-16 level, but everything we know as of today suggests that reality is hardly guaranteed.

[rjv]

I appreciate the recap.... personally I wasn't too up to speed with the Spurs in 1999-2000 but if that scenario played out in 2018 no doubt the internet would be unforgiving.
However I am still reluctant to say Leonard at this stage is close to the importance of a Tim Duncan three years into his career. In fact I would say they are miles apart when you factor leadership traits especially.

But what has irked me is that if today's quote from Manu Ginobili is accurate, then even Leonard's teammates are falling victim to reports of national broadcasters.
Like that deepens the mystery to another level. How out of touch is KL with the organization that a Manu Ginobili is expecting his return based on reading an article on espn.com!

I will be more than happy to admit all of this was forgivable if a year from now Kawhi Leonard is performing at his 2015-16 level, but everything we know as of today suggests that reality is hardly guaranteed.

that's the one thing that i think we can all agree on. leonard is clearly not a leader and his personality is borderline anti-social. but i still want him back whether it's this season or next season and beyond that.

[vander]

if ST had been around when duncan had his meniscus tear i can only imagine the sort of chatter we would have had then, especially since it was a chance to repeat. posters would have been all over both duncan and pop. they would have questioned tim's toughness and they would have mentioned all the other players who could play through the pain. if pop doesn't make that call back in 2000, no way duncan plays for another 16 years. as you said, there are plenty of players who can testify to that.

Did Duncan sit out the following season too?

this isn't your everyday NBA injury situation

[rjv]

Did Duncan sit out the following season too?

this isn't your everyday NBA injury situation

it isn't but we don't know. as i stated, we can think a lot of things about the injury but none of us know.

[DPG21920]

Some very interesting comments:

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*not sure why it won’t imbed

https://twitter.com/maxsportssa/status/976542254310543360?s=21

[SAGirl]

The media didn’t fool anybody..Kawhi did. Pop tried to remove the cloud of questioning and left a slim chance of hope. Kawhi then speaks to the media and breaks the silence...IMO that was a shot at Pop and telling him HE wants to be in control of him playing this year...

This chemistry argument is stupid to me IMO..the team as is doesn’t stand a chance of winning anything..so why does it matter when he comes back? He will increase our chances if and when he does..even the last game of the year lol. It just doesn’t fit what Pop preaches and stands by so he can’t openly take that stance..

Kawhi is a top 5 player..his injury isn’t career threatening and if it was he shouldn’t have been cleared by Spurs..PATFO have nothing to lose and everything to gain to let Kawhi do what’s best for him..if not and they dictate things and shut him down while making the playoffs..I promise you Kawhi will be gone!!!
I am not sure if you are responding to me or just giving me your opinion.
Kawhi is just not medically cleared, or ready to play. I have no doubt he's trying and he wants to play, but he's injured and you don't go from not playing or even participating in a shootaround with teammates to playing big minutes in the playoffs cold blooded. It's not safe for the player. That's why they bring players in gradually and make sure there are no setbacks etc. At some point it doesn't even make sense to expect him back and that point is really soon.

It's what Tony said here:
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And Tony was one who had remained positive and didn't want to say he wasn't expecting him back a month ago.

[SAGirl]

I definitely wouldn't blame the Holts if they balk at giving him the supermax in the summer. What guarantees you give me this dude won't sit for another season in the future just because he is perpetually unready to play?

Blake Griffin is maybe a damage goods but at least he manages to comeback and play before another 6-weeks of injury timetable plays itself out ; and Jerry West was able to find the right timing to ship his albatross deal out of town..

I could easily imagine Kawhi cashing on on the supermax only to read that he is out for the 2018-19 season opener..Good luck trading him for good value having not played consecutive basketball games since April 2017..
Rumors are already out:
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[ducks]

https://mobile.twitter.com/tom_orsborn

[Death In June]

Kl's biggest failing is not answering these questions himself. He could easily squash the rumors and leave his teammates free not to field questions each game.

[ducks]

Spurs Expected To Offer Designed Veteran Player Extension To Kawhi Leonard

[Brunodf]

Really hope they don't offer the supermax, that would cripple the franchise for a long time

[spurraider21]

giving him the supermax coming off this really odd injury isn't a great bet... but it's the best bet this team has at competing for a championship in the near future

do it

[cd98]

Of course they are putting out super max stories. It’s to gin up his value and make people think they’re trading for next season’s MVP.

[BillMc]

Spurs Expected To Offer Designed Veteran Player Extension To Kawhi Leonard

You type that as if it is a headline? Is it an article? Do you have a link?

[ducks]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/249312/Spurs-Expected-To-Offer-Designed-Veteran-Player-Extension-To-Kawhi-Leonard

[BillMc]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/249312/Spurs-Expected-To-Offer-Designed-Veteran-Player-Extension-To-Kawhi-Leonard

Thanks.

[tholdren]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/249312/Spurs-Expected-To-Offer-Designed-Veteran-Player-Extension-To-Kawhi-Leonard

Designed veteran cut

[Ice009]

I definitely wouldn't blame the Holts if they balk at giving him the supermax in the summer. What guarantees you give me this dude won't sit for another season in the future just because he is perpetually unready to play?

Blake Griffin is maybe a damage goods but at least he manages to comeback and play before another 6-weeks of injury timetable plays itself out ; and Jerry West was able to find the right timing to ship his albatross deal out of town..

I could easily imagine Kawhi cashing on on the supermax only to read that he is out for the 2018-19 season opener..Good luck trading him for good value having not played consecutive basketball games since April 2017..

This is a major point for me. If he's sitting out so that he doesn't risk losing a Supermax offer, that is one thing, but if he does get the Supermax, he can't subsequently sit out whole seasons with soreness. He's going to have to learn to play through it.

[Brunodf]

If a player can get the supermax on a contract year without playing do you truly think he'll care to try hard after he gets it :lol

Still don't know why people even consider giving the supermax to a player coming off a year layoff, if this was in the NFL that wouldn't even be in question.


This is a major point for me. If he's sitting out so that he doesn't risk losing a Supermax offer, that is one thing, but if he does get the Supermax, he can't subsequently sit out whole seasons with soreness. He's going to have to learn to play through it.

[daslicer]

This is a major point for me. If he's sitting out so that he doesn't risk losing a Supermax offer, that is one thing, but if he does get the Supermax, he can't subsequently sit out whole seasons with soreness. He's going to have to learn to play through it.

If I'm the spurs I don't give him the supermax this summer. What he pulled this year was bush league. Make him earn the Supermax next season. If he is still able to play at an MVP level he will make an all-nba team and qualify for it it again. Spurs can then offer it to him during FA. If he still walks after that then that's a risk you take.

[NASpurs]

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[spurraider21]

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det salt in the wound

[SAGirl]

hmmm all signs keep pointing to him not coming back this season.
heh his injury is no longer listed as quad tendinopathy... but "return from injury management"...

[tmtcsc]

To be fair, Woj reported the following: "San Antonio star Kawhi Leonard plans to resume working with the team at the Spurs' practice facility this week -- with hopes of returning by late March, league sources told ESPN."

That was back on Feb. 26th. He was told that Kawhi was aiming for late March. So....nothing unexpected has really happened. If he doesn't return sometime in March, then you have to believe he's done.

[sasaint]

To be fair, Woj reported the following: "San Antonio star Kawhi Leonard plans to resume working with the team at the Spurs' practice facility this week -- with hopes of returning by late March, league sources told ESPN."

That was back on Feb. 26th. He was told that Kawhi was aiming for late March. So....nothing unexpected has really happened. If he doesn't return sometime in March, then you have to believe he's done.

Except Woj reported that Kawhi planned to resume working with the team, and Tony subsequently stated that he hadn't been working out with them. There are still no reliable reports that Kawhi has actually worked with the team, are there? Just strolling around the weight room...

[YGWHI]

Except Woj reported that Kawhi planned to resume working with the team, and Tony subsequently stated that he hadn't been working out with them. There are still no reliable reports that Kawhi has actually worked with the team, are there? Just strolling around the weight room...

I wouldn't believe anything that Wojs say about this. He's not getting it from the team or Kawhi's camp. Just BS.

[Brazil]

You said "This is all Kiwi at this point" in a sense it's a Kawhi's decision. That's not the truth. Because Pop has said repeatedly that his doctors didn't cleared him.

It's not "all Kiwi". There are doctors -who saw something in his quad that Spurs medical staff didnt- saying he's not ready yet. They're specialist, not a player's whim.

dat argument is bs tbh.. Kawhi has been cleared by Spurs doctors and they are the most conservatives in business.. it's on Kawhi to trust his doctors or Spurs doctors it is 100% on him, so it is a player whim

[sasaint]

I wouldn't believe anything that Wojs say about this. He's not getting it from the team or Kawhi's camp. Just BS.

Exactly. My money is on Tony.

[SAGirl]

Except Woj reported that Kawhi planned to resume working with the team, and Tony subsequently stated that he hadn't been working out with them. There are still no reliable reports that Kawhi has actually worked with the team, are there? Just strolling around the weight room...
Kiwi said he’s working out with the support staff, no teammates.

[sasaint]

Spurs Expected To Offer Designed Veteran Player Extension To Kawhi Leonard


You type that as if it is a headline? Is it an article? Do you have a link?


Designed veteran cut

In my opinion, Kawhi does have a serious Design flaw. :lol

[sasaint]

Kiwi said he’s working out with the support staff, no teammates.

Right. Maybe. A staff is like a large cane - right?

[SAGirl]

Right. Maybe. A staff is like a large cane - right?
:lol
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One of the players, I can't recall who, said Kiwi was practicing with the old guys... which I assumed to be Bonner and the coaching and support staff... can't be real intense workouts if you don't have youngins like Derrick White there, or BP3, who doesn't really play and has to do workouts with the staff to stay in game shape himself.

I thought at the time, he wasn't going all out in those 3 on 3, it was just a rehearsal, getting to his spots, shooting on the move that kind of stuff, maybe someone puts a hand up to guard you, but really mild. It wasn't like a team scrimmage with teammates really going at each other... it just put in context the kind of intensity that his 3 on 3 have. And as far as the teammates themselves, I am thinking the leaks to the media didn't jive with what they were hearing from Pop, so they wanted to clear things with Kiwi personally...

[sasaint]

:lol
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One of the players, I can't recall who, said Kiwi was practicing with the old guys... which I assumed to be Bonner and the coaching and support staff... can't be real intense workouts if you don't have youngins like Derrick White there, or BP3, who doesn't really play and has to do workouts with the staff to stay in game shape himself.

I thought at the time, he wasn't going all out in those 3 on 3, it was just a rehearsal, getting to his spots, shooting on the move that kind of stuff, maybe someone puts a hand up to guard you, but really mild. It wasn't like a team scrimmage with teammates really going at each other... it just put in context the kind of intensity that his 3 on 3 have. And as far as the teammates themselves, I am thinking the leaks to the media didn't jive with what they were hearing from Pop, so they wanted to clear things with Kiwi personally...

That has more than a slight hint of locker room rebellion or Pop's having lost the team in it. I am going to stop calling this The Lost Season and start calling it The Murky Season. Like a gothic novel.

[NASpurs]

Not against the Bucks

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[CGD]

It’s a shame he won’t give it a try, especially with the Curry news.

[Spursmania]

This is getting so old...

[UZER]

This is getting so old...

Getting?

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I don't want him back this year at this point. I think the main reason they're playing like they are is because the team finally stopped waiting on him. They've had a psychological gimp for most of the year, thanks to the waffling that's occurred in this situation.

And if he came back it would disrupt the battle-hardened, calloused psyche they've finally cultivated.

Not to mention, I think if LA can will these guys to 50 wins and the 3 or 4 seed, he'll be able to overcome the reputation many of his more critical fans gave him. He'll in essence get Spur-for-Life status, which imo, he's already earned. He's gutted out and hearted out this year for a fan base that was largely dismissive of him. I hope that stops after this srason.

[Arcadian]

:lol I hate Dad Killer as much as anybody, but comparing Kawhi to him is lunacy, tbh..

Kawherrick Rose is much more appropriate..

People compare Kawhi to Jordan based on his style of play and physical features, not necessarily in terms of greatness or durability.

[tholdren]

People compare Kawhi to Jordan based on his style of play and physical features, not necessarily in terms of greatness or durability.

No one has ever done what you just stated

[Arcadian]

No one has ever done what you just stated

Yeah they have. For example, it's been noted that they have a similar turnaround jumper/midrange game (style of play) and abnormally large hands (physical features).

[tholdren]

Yeah they have. For example, it's been noted that they have a similar turnaround jumper/midrange game (style of play) and abnormally large hands (physical features).

Lolololololololololo.....

[polandprzem]

Not against the Bucks

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Damn that's something new ...


At this moment spurs players can ignore it and just play but when the season will end it's a tough decision if to offer Leonard a supermax. Players already questioning his attitude to stay off the team.

That's not a leader mentality from Kawhi now. How can you trust the guy who is vanishing and disconnecting with team?

[Arcadian]

Lolololololololololo.....

:lol Why were you trying to refute such an obvious, uncontroversial statement? Remember, I wasn't comparing Kawhi to Jordan, but merely stating that the comparison has been made. You might disagree with the comparisons, but they have in fact been made on this very forum and elsewhere.

[tholdren]

:lol Why were you trying to refute such an obvious, uncontroversial statement? Remember, I wasn't comparing Kawhi to Jordan, but merely stating that the comparison has been made. You might disagree with the comparisons, but they have in fact been made on this very forum and elsewhere.

Lolololllololol

[spursistan]

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I expect the Spurs to keep publishing this same injury report until the day they get eliminated..They won't officially rule him out for the season.. That's their way of letting everybody know that he is the one who is refusing to play..

[tholdren]

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I expect the Spurs to keep publishing this same injury report until the day they get eliminated..They won't officially rule him out for the season.. That's their way of letting everybody know that he is the one who is refusing to play..

Yes. Great move by fo.

[NASpurs]

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I expect the Spurs to keep publishing this same injury report until the day they get eliminated..They won't officially rule him out for the season.. That's their way of letting everybody know that he is the one who is refusing to play..

Any day now... he'll be officially declared done for the season.

[apalisoc_9]

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I expect the Spurs to keep publishing this same injury report until the day they get eliminated..They won't officially rule him out for the season.. That's their way of letting everybody know that he is the one who is refusing to play..

He wants out.

Maybe he is pissed they didnt honour a trade request in Feb.

[cd98]

Well Fultz beat Kawhi back.

[gospursgojas]

Well Fultz beat Kawhi back.

At this rate so will Hayward and Cousins

[YGWHI]

dat argument is bs tbh.. Kawhi has been cleared by Spurs doctors and they are the most conservatives in business.. it's on Kawhi to trust his doctors or Spurs doctors it is 100% on him, so it is a player whim

They could be the most conservative but they cleared him to play then Kawhi had the same issues in his quad after playing just a few games...

Until his new doctors found something in his leg, Kawhi didn't get an answer for why his quad wasn't right. If he trusts his doctors for this reason I wouldn't blame him. After all, any player who isn't healing in the way the team-doctors say, would get 2nd opinion.

[YGWHI]

Exactly. My money is on Tony.

:lol

My money is on Patty/Pau, just like Spurs' money is.

[ElNono]

He wants out.

Maybe he is pissed they didnt honour a trade request in Feb.

He should want out, tbh... teammates throwing him under the bus...

[tholdren]

He should want out, tbh... teammates throwing him under the bus...

Bye kawheesha

[NASpurs]

Nope!

http://www.nba.com/spurs/spurs-injury-report-4/3/18-la-clippers


Kawhi Leonard (return from injury management) is out for tomorrow’s Spurs-Clippers game.

[cd98]

Can we just compile all the injury reports for the last month into one thread? Also what does "return from injury management" mean? Is he healed but getting in game shape or is he still injured. Wish Mr. Mute would at least clarify that he is having pain instead of sneaking off to NY while the national media is in SA so he won't have to talk to anyone.

[spurraider21]

they're even throwing shade by calling it "return from injury management" instead of just saying "injury." they're casting doubt on the credibility of his injury

[Ice009]

Can we just compile all the injury reports for the last month into one thread? Also what does "return from injury management" mean? Is he healed but getting in game shape or is he still injured. Wish Mr. Mute would at least clarify that he is having pain instead of sneaking off to NY while the national media is in SA so he won't have to talk to anyone.

Wow. I never thought of that. Is the national media in SA for the NCAA, if so, the timing of Kawhi getting out of SA to go to NY seems very deliberate rather than a coincidence.

[cd98]

Wow. I never thought of that. Is the national media in SA for the NCAA, if so, the timing of Kawhi getting out of SA to go to NY seems very deliberate rather than a coincidence.

Yep, they were here for the Houston game and the final four. Tons of media for tonight's game. We'll see if he's back in SA this week.

[tholdren]

Can we just compile all the injury reports for the last month into one thread? Also what does "return from injury management" mean? Is he healed but getting in game shape or is he still injured. Wish Mr. Mute would at least clarify that he is having pain instead of sneaking off to NY while the national media is in SA so he won't have to talk to anyone.

It means this is not the spurs holding him out. Its a record of kl crying

[spursistan]

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I expect the Spurs to keep publishing this same injury report until the day they get eliminated..They won't officially rule him out for the season.. That's their way of letting everybody know that he is the one who is refusing to play..

[tholdren]

It means this is not the spurs holding him out. Its a record of kl crying

This

[BillMc]

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Kawhi keeps cashing them checks though. Sad.

[BillMc]

So, is he still in NY? Will he be kind enough to be at the game at least?