New budget 6 BILLION for "opiod abuse"

[CosmicCowboy]

I am not being sarcastic. How the heck do we spend the 6 billion?

[RandomGuy]

I am not being sarcastic. How the heck do we spend the 6 billion?

I'm sure Kelly-Ann Conway, knows exactly how best to deploy that.

She could ask Ben Carson about how to decorate her office. :rollin

:lol your Trump party in "action"

[boutons_deux]

pure theatre. they ain't gonna spend $6B on drug addicts' rehab programs

[CosmicCowboy]

I'm sure Kelly-Ann Conway, knows exactly how best to deploy that.

She could ask Ben Carson about how to decorate her office. :rollin

:lol your Trump party in "action"

Bitter sarcastic reply anticipated from newboutons.

[CosmicCowboy]

Don't forget the "Trash" and "repugs" next time.

[ElNono]

Not sure why anybody is surprised, we haven't done anything about the cost of healthcare in a long ass time.

[RandomGuy]

Don't forget the "Trash" and "repugs"

A non-serious answer for a non-serious OP.

If you wish to have a serious answer, maybe you can start by telling me how exactly Conway is qualified for her task.

Do tell.

[RandomGuy]

Bitter sarcastic reply anticipated from newboutons.

Maybe you can start by also telling how exactly Taylor Weyeneth was qualified to be deputy. I'll wait while you google that shit.

Your thread, your responsibility to tell me how people like that are going to spend our money.

[CosmicCowboy]

A non-serious answer for a non-serious OP.

If you wish to have a serious answer, maybe you can start by telling me how exactly Conway is qualified for her task.

Do tell.

Oh bullshit, babyboo.

The official statement was "fund new grants", "prevention programs" and "law enforcement efforts"

Does anyone really believe that spending a few billion on a public relations campaign to educate people that using heroin/fentanyl could end badly will really make a difference?

[baseline bum]

What a waste of money. If Trumpland wants to kill itself with fentanyl might as well let it.

[spurraider21]

dump all 6 billion into DARE tbh

[RandomGuy]

Oh bullshit, babyboo.

The official statement was "fund new grants", "prevention programs" and "law enforcement efforts"

Does anyone really believe that spending a few billion on a public relations campaign to educate people that using heroin/fentanyl could end badly will really make a difference?

(sigh)

Chickenshit non-answer, because you know the answer reflects badly on the moron you support as president through inaction.

Fine, let's try it another way.

How exactly will Conway draw on her expertise in this field to decide what "fund new grants", "prevention programs" and "law enforcement efforts" to put money into.

Then tell me how people like Taylor Weyeneth will help in that regard.

[boutons_deux]

Not sure why anybody is surprised, we haven't done anything about the cost of healthcare in a long ass time.

"we" can't do anything, really have NOTHING to do (except medical tourism)

BigInsurance, BigMedicine decide how deeply they screw defenseless "we".

[Spurminator]

My guess is more spending law enforcement to fight drug dealers.

[RandomGuy]

newboutons.

Riddle me this:

Describe the rational reaction to the worst president in U.S. History?

What is the rational reaction to knowing how incompetent, and flawed this administration is?

Go on. I'll wait.

[KenMcCoy]

Just put all $6B towards the Wall. Eezy peezy.

[Chucho]

Force Dr.'s to stop prescribing opiods to patients who've never used them would be the first logical step...

Treat the drug addicts the way gun fetishists are treated, that's the second step since shaming is a selective thing, but sickness and death lovers are all in the same...

Stop the sale of heroin "accessories" that make heroin more lethal. Outlaw spoons, syringes, metal bottle caps and cigarette lighters.

Better than the outright confiscation of everyone's heroin.

[spurraider21]

Just put all $6B towards the Wall. Eezy peezy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8x9qs2wuZjI

[boutons_deux]

My guess is more spending law enforcement to fight drug dealers.

... locking up users, possessors, into the American Gulag, Incarceration Nation. It's a Business.

[boutons_deux]

Just another war America is losing, can't win

Trump wants a new war on drugs

he clearly was most interested in the prong that gets "very tough" on drug dealers.

We know this because he said so approximately 5,000 times during a speech announcing the new plan in New Hampshire, a state chosen as the backdrop because it is one of those hardest hit by opioid addiction and overdose deaths.

we have a hard time taking Trump seriously when

his long-awaited response to the deadly opioid crisis that killed about 64,000 Americans in 2016 and

probably even more in 2017

relies on immigrant scapegoating, barbaric penalties and magical thinking.

It's not even original.

Trump's get-tough approach is little more than a reboot of the failed "War on Drugs" from the 1980s,

in which the federal government spent enormous sums trying — and failing — to stop the crack cocaine crisis

by throwing people in prison, a disproportionate amount of whom were African American and Latino.

Even more worrisome than the recycled drug war posturing (Trump is also touting a Just Say No-style advertising campaign to tell kids how bad drugs are) was

his praise for countries with zero-tolerance drug policies.

He didn't say which countries, but clearly he was referring to the Philippines,

where President Rodrigo Duterte's drug crackdown has resulted in the extrajudicial killing of thousands of people (children included) for petty crimes or drug use,

If there's just one lesson to be learned from the country's last attempt to grapple with a drug crisis,

it is that

we can't arrest our way out of drug addiction.

Or kill our way out of it.

Just say no to Trump's opioid plan.

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/editorials/la-ed-trump-war-on-drugs-20180320-story.html#testnws=politicsnow&track=_newsletter_politics-now___________20180322

[Trill Clinton]

What a waste of money. If Trumpland wants to kill itself with fentanyl might as well let it.

This.

And I look forward to seeing tanks ripping through trailer parks busting down these opiod operations.

[RandomGuy]

This.

And I look forward to seeing tanks ripping through trailer parks busting down these opiod operations.

Drone strikes, taking out manufacturing operations.

[Chucho]

Drone strikes, taking out manufacturing operations.

He was trying to be subtle with his perpetual victimhood and black supremacy.

[boutons_deux]

Trump opioid chief Kellyanne Conway advises: Eat ice cream, not fentanyl and ‘it all works out

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/03/watch-video-trump-opioid-chief-kellyanne-conway-advises-eat-ice-cream-not-fentanyl-works/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

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[CosmicCowboy]

Trump opioid chief Kellyanne Conway advises: Eat ice cream, not fentanyl and ‘it all works out

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/03/watch-video-trump-opioid-chief-kellyanne-conway-advises-eat-ice-cream-not-fentanyl-works/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

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If you read the article there is nothing wrong with what she said.

[AaronY]

If you read the article there is nothing wrong with what she said.
You're reasoning with boutons

[RandomGuy]

If you read the article there is nothing wrong with what she said.

You think I am the "newboutons". Ok, then tell me how I should be acting. Here is your chance.

Describe the rational reaction to the worst president in U.S. History?

What is the rational reaction to knowing how incompetent, and flawed this administration is?

Go on. I'll wait.

[CosmicCowboy]

You are right. Throwing tantrums on a sports message board and universally condemning conservatives even if they neither liked or voted for Trump will really change the fucking world.

And yes, you are starting to sound very much like Boutons

[RandomGuy]

You are right. Throwing tantrums on a sports message board and universally condemning conservatives even if they neither liked or voted for Trump will really change the fucking world.

And yes, you are starting to sound very much like Boutons

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. - Edmund Burke

What is the rational response to seeing evil, pointing it out to someone, and having them ignore it like it isn't happening?

[boutons_deux]

Conservatives haven't done shit FOR America since Tricky Dick, effectively a socialist.

After him, the VRWC got organized and the "common good" has been downhill ever since.

[CosmicCowboy]

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. - Edmund Burke

What is the rational response to seeing evil, pointing it out to someone, and having them ignore it like it isn't happening?

How are we ignoring it? Its not like I can make Trump resign.

[KenMcCoy]

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. - Edmund Burke

What is the rational response to seeing evil, pointing it out to someone, and having them ignore it like it isn't happening?

The funny thing is that "evil" is defined by the victors...

[RandomGuy]

How are we ignoring it? Its not like I can make Trump resign.

Have you ever criticized Trump for his conflicts of interest? Do you even know what they are?

[CosmicCowboy]

Have you ever criticized Trump for his conflicts of interest? Do you even know what they are?

Why should I post about it on a sports message board when I can read your ravings ad nauseum?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You are right. Throwing tantrums on a sports message board and universally condemning conservatives even if they neither liked or voted for Trump will really change the fucking world.

And yes, you are starting to sound very much like Boutons

This is one of the more active political boards out there especially for Texas. You're sure being a whiny bitch about it though dodging like TSA answering a legitimate question.

[TeyshaBlue]

A non-serious answer for a non-serious OP.

If you wish to have a serious answer, maybe you can start by telling me how exactly Conway is qualified for her task.

Do tell.

You could start by answering the origional question. Leave the slobbering, demented replies to boutons.

[sickdsm]

I'm sure Kelly-Ann Conway, knows exactly how best to deploy that.

She could ask Ben Carson about how to decorate her office. :rollin

:lol your Trump party in "action"
Had the same thought as CC. Your better than this. Why do you have to be such a bitch? Honest thread he started. Swear to God I have to go to Reddit to find some more intelligent discussion than here........

[boutons_deux]

CNN’s Chris Cuomo hammers Kellyanne Conway after she blames Joe Biden for not solving opioid crisis

Kellyanne Conway appeared on CNN Friday to talk about the Trump administration’s work in combating the opioid crisis — but she once again couldn’t resist taking a swipe at former Democratic rival Hillary Clinton.

Conway responded to say that it was actually Clinton and Biden who were the ones who started it,

not Trump.

“Joe Biden — like that woman who lost the election whose name I don’t say on your network anymore — they seem pretty obsessed,” she said. “Why do they keep mentioning him and his voters?”

Conway then attacked both Clinton and Biden for not doing more to solve the country’s problems, despite the fact that they currently hold no political power.

“They have considerable platforms,” Conway said.

“Why aren’t they using them for more good?

Where is [Clinton’s] center for women and girls?

Why isn’t [Biden] calling me today to help on the drug crisis?”

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/03/cnns-chris-cuomo-hammers-kellyanne-conway-blames-joe-biden-not-solving-opioid-crisis/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

You Repugs are assholes, blaming everybody for your failures. :lol

[RandomGuy]

Why should I post about it on a sports message board when I can read your ravings ad nauseum?

So no, you don't care, nor do you know what they are.

Your president is compromised, deeply. Yet you play along, because he bribed you. How noble.

[RandomGuy]

Had the same thought as CC. Your better than this. Why do you have to be such a bitch? Honest thread he started. Swear to God I have to go to Reddit to find some more intelligent discussion than here........

How should I best make the point about the shocking level of incompetence and cronyism in the current administration?

Enlighten me.

[johnsmith]

This is one of the more active political boards out there especially for Texas..

LoL!!!!!

[RandomGuy]

You could start by answering the origional question. Leave the slobbering, demented replies to boutons.

How should we spend $6bn?

Drug treatment. Talk to doctors.

First step would be to have someone with some topical knowledge to head up the task force, and pay them to find out what would be the best, evidence based solutions.

Now that I have reasonably addressed the OP, maybe you can step in for Cosmic and tell me how exactly Conway is in anyway qualified to address this issue, other than loyalty to Trump.

If she isn't qualified, this is your chance to opine on that.

[johnsmith]

How should we spend $6bn?

Drug treatment. Talk to doctors.

First step would be to have someone with some topical knowledge to head up the task force, and pay them to find out what would be the best, evidence based solutions.

Now that I have reasonably addressed the OP, maybe you can step in for Cosmic and tell me how exactly Conway is in anyway qualified to address this issue, other than loyalty to Trump.

If she isn't qualified, this is your chance to opine on that.

I will tell you how we shouldn’t! By not making scary “this is your brain on drugs” commercials as trump has suggested. What a stupid fucking idea.

[RandomGuy]

I will tell you how we shouldn’t! By not making scary “this is your brain on drugs” commercials as trump has suggested. What a stupid fucking idea.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/kellyanne-conway-warns-college-kids-211432680.html

Kellyanne Conway warns college kids to avoid fentanyl


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"don't do drugs"

This is what happens when you appoint unqualified people to do things. smh

[koriwhat]

lmao opium... bunch of idiots think doc's have their best interest in mind. doc's are all about the $ and being a legal drug dealer is the best gig in the world. then these same people become junkies over time and seek alternatives to the high price meds.

what a backwards world we live in when marijuana edibles can decrease pain just as much as opiates or more and without the side affects or addiction.

[SpursforSix]

lmao opium... bunch of idiots think doc's have their best interest in mind. doc's are all about the $ and being a legal drug dealer is the best gig in the world. then these same people become junkies over time and seek alternatives to the high price meds.

what a backwards world we live in when marijuana edibles can decrease pain just as much as opiates or more and without the side affects or addiction.

Docs have no interest in telling a patient that he/she can probably fix what's wrong with them by eating better and/or taking certain vitamins or supplements.

Not all docs. But a large %.

[koriwhat]

Docs have no interest in telling a patient that he/she can probably fix what's wrong with them by eating better and/or taking certain vitamins or supplements.

Not all docs. But a large %.

indeed. seen it first hand with family. such a sad thing too considering doc's, before my time, actually gave a shit about their patients.

[CosmicCowboy]

Was in the truck today when Trump was giving his usual stream of consciousness speech and I clearly heard him say (talking about opiates) "we are going to fine the drug companies".

[SpursforSix]

indeed. seen it first hand with family. such a sad thing too considering doc's, before my time, actually gave a shit about their patients.

I also think that there are a lot of docs that do it unwittingly. They'll get all their info from medical journals, medical forums, drug reps. Without considering the possibility of natural treatments.

Not to mention, their egos won't allow them to believe that a patient could cure themselves without spending $100,000+ for years and years of training.

Again, this is not all docs.

[RandomGuy]

Was in the truck today when Trump was giving his usual stream of consciousness speech and I clearly heard him say (talking about opiates) "we are going to fine the drug companies".

Hell, that might be the second thing he has done that I like. The first being increasing NASA's budget.

[SpursforSix]

Hell, that might be the second thing he has done that I like. The first being increasing NASA's budget.

Woudn't it be a pisser for you if we went to Mars and found Jesus up there?

[koriwhat]

I also think that there are a lot of docs that do it unwittingly. They'll get all their info from medical journals, medical forums, drug reps. Without considering the possibility of natural treatments.

Not to mention, their egos won't allow them to believe that a patient could cure themselves without spending $100,000+ for years and years of training.

Again, this is not all docs.

yeah they know nothing of marijuana for sure but will be quick to say not to use it and suggest the alternative; an opiate. saw that first hand and was totally surprised. this visit to the doc had nothing to do with me however i was there for a family member. when asked about marijuana the doc literally said, "yeah i am not sure about marijuana at all and don't know much about the drug but i would not suggest using it. i would think it would do more harm than good for you." then that same doc wrote prescriptions for the synthetic form of mj for hunger(why? and on a side note it doesn't work for shit), vicodin, and tramaldol instead.

[CosmicCowboy]

yeah they know nothing of marijuana for sure but will be quick to say not to use it and suggest the alternative; an opiate. saw that first hand and was totally surprised. this visit to the doc had nothing to do with me however i was there for a family member. when asked about marijuana the doc literally said, "yeah i am not sure about marijuana at all and don't know much about the drug but i would not suggest using it. i would think it would do more harm than good for you." then that same doc wrote prescriptions for the synthetic form of mj for hunger(why? and on a side note it doesn't work for shit), vicodin, and tramaldol instead.
Damn, your relative must be fucked up for him to prescribe that load in one pass.

[koriwhat]

Damn, your relative must be fucked up for him to prescribe that load in one pass.

he was... unfortunately he isn't around anymore.

[CosmicCowboy]

Personally I will be pissed if they outlaw hydrocodone. I have never noticed any signs of addiction using it properly. I might go days without needing it but when my knee blows up 20mg will knock it back to a bearable level.

[Pavlov]

Was in the truck today when Trump was giving his usual stream of consciousness speech and I clearly heard him say (talking about opiates) "we are going to fine the drug companies".You believed him when he said he was satisfied with his legal team too.

[koriwhat]

You believed him when he said he was satisfied with his legal team too.

you believed obama when he said he wasn't spying on djt nor US citizens but that's neither here nor there tbh... or when comey lied under oath, or brennan, or... lmao what's good for the goose is good for the gander, right?

[Pavlov]

obama*ding*

[koriwhat]

*ding*

"Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it."

i forgot, the faux golden god obama is off limits as is that **** hrc, right? lmao you obama fluffer.

[CosmicCowboy]

You believed him when he said he was satisfied with his legal team too.
Fuck off, Chump. I simply reported what I heard. 250 cities, counties, and states have already done it. Are you claiming the feds wont ever pile on?

[Pavlov]

"Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it."

i forgot, the faux golden god obama is off limits as is that **** hrc, right? lmao you obama fluffer.It's just hilarious that you automatically try to change the subject every time.


Fuck off, Chump. I simply reported what I heard. 250 cities, counties, and states have already done it. Are you claiming the feds wont ever pile on?I'm claiming you've been fooled by this guy before.

[koriwhat]

It's just hilarious that you automatically try to change the subject every time.

who's changing the subject? politics are politics, past and present. you're just upset because you'd like to pile it all on djt while dismissing the sickening admin of obama and all his faults. all because you'd suck his dick in a heartbeat and let obama grab you by the pussy 24/7 & twice on sundays.

[Pavlov]

who's changing the subject?You.

[CosmicCowboy]

It's just hilarious that you automatically try to change the subject every time.

I'm claiming you've been fooled by this guy before.

Aw fuck. Chump thinks I was fooled. Just crushing.






Arrogant shithead internet warrior.

[koriwhat]

You.

lol you really don't want the truth... you're only ever after a round about game. that's why i just smh at your replies and i am sure you do the same of mine.

[Pavlov]

Aw fuck. Chump thinks I was fooled. Just crushing.




Arrogant shithead internet warrior.:lol You spent more than a few posts defending his tweet, saying he was satisfied with his legal team.

[Pavlov]

lol you really don't want the truth... you're only ever after a round about game. that's why i just smh at your replies and i am sure you do the same of mine.You're the one who's always changing the subject.

[koriwhat]

You're the one who's always changing the subject.

politics are politics... subject is the same.

[Pavlov]

politics are politics... subject is the same.Not at all.

That's a supremely stupid statement.

[koriwhat]

Not at all.

That's a supremely stupid statement.

only stupid to those who just want to dismiss what they don't want to hear/read because it breaks their dogma up.

[Pavlov]

only stupid to those who just want to dismiss what they don't want to hear/read because it breaks their dogma up.You're describing yourself when you try to change the subject.

[koriwhat]

You're describing yourself when you try to change the subject.

keep plugging those ears with your hammered thumbs.

[SnakeBoy]

Hell, that might be the second thing he has done that I like. The first being increasing NASA's budget.

You don't like that he's racking up debt? You spent years arguing that we needed more deficit spending so I assumed you would be happy with that.

[Chucho]

If the Clown had stopped, or even regulated lobbying, that would have been the first step in tackling big pharma and most of what's wrong with politics and ethics. But he didnt, of course.

[TeyshaBlue]

Hell, that might be the second thing he has done that I like. The first being increasing NASA's budget.

The major distributors have significant liability here as well. Distributors are being asked awkward questions about shipping millions of opiates to rogue clinics/pain centers/et al.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ex-dea-agent-opioid-crisis-fueled-by-drug-industry-and-congress/

[TeyshaBlue]

How should we spend $6bn?

Drug treatment. Talk to doctors.

First step would be to have someone with some topical knowledge to head up the task force, and pay them to find out what would be the best, evidence based solutions.

Now that I have reasonably addressed the OP, maybe you can step in for Cosmic and tell me how exactly Conway is in anyway qualified to address this issue, other than loyalty to Trump.

If she isn't qualified, this is your chance to opine on that.

Like the majority of Trumps appointees....my Chihuahua is far better qualified.

However, I don't think the responsibility to address this issue lies solely with Conway.

[boutons_deux]

I don't think the responsibility to address this issue lies solely with Conway.

A person in her position must understand the problem, define, outline the programs, policies, budgeting, maybe even be experienced :lol in the area of responsibility.

Ice cream, etc aren't replacements for opioid addiction. Has she asked opioid addict(s) why they don't "Just Say No" and go eat ice cream?

KAC is just another kakistocrat Trash/Repugs thrown at America to degrade, destroy govt.

[LkrFan]

The Pharmaceutical industry makes billions of dollars annually. They not gone do shitPERIOD. :lol