International friendlies march 23-27

[apalisoc_9]

Some big time games.

Watching russia vs brazil right now and its already 3-0.

Man if Russia wasnt hosting they be the worse team in the competition. They look awful.

[DAF86]

Generic European team just receiving the pounding it's suppossed to receive. Nothing to see here.

[apalisoc_9]

Generic European team just receiving the pounding it's suppossed to receive. Nothing to see here.

I'm actually with you on this one.

Outside of maybe 6-7 teams, most euro teams are South Korea, Tunisia level teams. How they have half of the world seats is beyond me.

[apalisoc_9]

Such a shame Italy isn't in the world cup while the likes of Poland is. They gotta stop these teams thats exploiting the system.

They look competitive against Argentina.

Salah is slowly looking like third best player in the world. Amazing game against Portugal.

[apalisoc_9]

Fucking Poland getting played around by Nigeria.

Typyical overrated euro team. Smdh.

[apalisoc_9]

Another W for Argentina against a big name team minus messi. This is getting old.

[DAF86]

Italy doesn't beat Argentina since 1982 I think. They are like grandchildren now.

[apalisoc_9]

Lol euro teams getting exposed today :lol

[apalisoc_9]

You cant make this shit up.

Every euro team either loss or finished with a draw. :lol

[lefty]

We destroyed MIGHTY Tanzania

We baaaaaaaaaack



Portugal is so going to destroy us in June :lol

[DAF86]

South American teams just winning the games they are suppossed to win, nothing to see here.

[DAF86]

Colombia beating super duper France, intergalactic champions, at their home. :lol

[spursistan]

looks like Big Dick Naldo is peaking for the soccer season playoffs, tbh :wow

[spursistan]

France as a WC contender :lol..

Short of a Final in Russia, FTF should fire Deschamps and bring in Zizou ..

[spursistan]

Buffon attention whoring is getting a little annoying, tbh.

Why the fuck did he go back on his international retirement? Italy needs to rebuild that team for the future with new generation/core players and there is nothing left for him to achieve..Time to let it go.

I hate it when legends overstay their welcome..

[apalisoc_9]

Portugal scored two goals in stoppage time? I closed the tab when it was 1-0 egypt at 89 :lol

[apalisoc_9]

Buffon attention whoring is getting a little annoying, tbh.

Why the fuck did he go back on his international retirement? Italy needs to rebuild that team for the future with new generation/core players and there is nothing left for him to achieve..Time to let it go.

I hate it when legends overstay their welcome..

Lol..whats the point? Not like they are playing in wc

[lefty]

:lol Ronaldo waiting the 90th to give a f...

TheGreatYacht

[TheGreatYacht]

:lol Ronaldo waiting the 90th to give a f...

TheGreatYacht (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=43719)
Everyone should glad we're living in the Ronaldo era

[Bynumite]

CLUTCHnaldo swinging his dick and staging a 2-1 comeback in stoppage time.

:worthy:We are all witnesses:worthy:

[apalisoc_9]

Croatia down 1-0 against Peru :lmao

Most euro teams today lost or got outplayed in a draw. :lmao

And all these games are played in europe too :lmao

Only Ronaldo managed a win against a tough Egypt team :wow

[lefty]

Also




:lol France

[ElNono]

they all pretty much played in Europe too... there's no "but, but, South America teams only win in South America"

[apalisoc_9]

they all pretty much played in Europe too... there's no "but, but, South America teams only win in South America"

Its not just south America. Africa, Central America and Asia all had a taste of that butthole :lol

[apalisoc_9]

dfens get your ass in here

[apalisoc_9]

Mexico outplaying iceland.

[TheGreatYacht]

Easy 3-0 win for Mexico's B-team against Euro 17' powerhouses Iceland tbh :lol

A-team was resting for Croatia. We received more of a challenge from Costa Rica. Yawn.

[TheGreatYacht]

CLUTCHnaldo swinging his dick and staging a 2-1 comeback in stoppage time.

:worthy:We are all witnesses:worthy:
King of any era.

[dfens]

sons they're called friendlies for a reason. Going by friendly results Germany is like a 20th ranked team in the world.

that being said besides France's choke I see no unexpected results so I don't see what you niggas are celebrating here:
france 2-3 colombia ....... choke :lol
russia 0-3 brasil ............ what did you expect tbh?
czech 0-2 uruguay ........ ok
denmark 1-0 panama...... ok
saudis 1-1 ukraine ......... choke
egypt 1-2 portugal ........ ok
norway 4-1 australia ...... who cares?
argentina 2-0 italy.......... ok
scotland 0-1 costa rica.... ok
poland 0-1 nigeria .......... ok
peru 2-0 croatia ............ choke croatia
mexico 3-0 icyland .......... ok


3 chokes from france/ukraine/croatia in march... yawn. Tbh I'll wait for some official games to talk shit. Y'all niggas celebrating regular season results tbh.

[DAF86]

Worst South American team beating mighty dfens hyped team, Croatia. :lol

[apalisoc_9]

sons they're called friendlies for a reason. Going by friendly results Germany is like a 20th ranked team in the world.

that being said besides France's choke I see no unexpected results so I don't see what you niggas are celebrating here:
france 2-3 colombia ....... choke :lol
russia 0-3 brasil ............ what did you expect tbh?
czech 0-2 uruguay ........ ok
denmark 1-0 panama...... ok
saudis 1-1 ukraine ......... choke
egypt 1-2 portugal ........ ok
norway 4-1 australia ...... who cares?
argentina 2-0 italy.......... ok
scotland 0-1 costa rica.... ok
poland 0-1 nigeria .......... ok
peru 2-0 croatia ............ choke croatia
mexico 3-0 icyland .......... ok


3 chokes from france/ukraine/croatia in march... yawn. Tbh I'll wait for some official games to talk shit. Y'all niggas celebrating regular season results tbh.

Dude they didnt choke. They're just not good enough.

Isnt ukraine supposed to be better than russia and one of the better teams that didnt qualify. How can they not win against an out of form shitty saudi team?

Also Peru barely qualified to the world cup and they just pummeled Croatia.

[dfens]

Dude they didnt choke. They're just not good enough.

Isnt ukraine supposed to be better than russia and one of the better teams that didnt qualify. How can they not win against an out of form shitty saudi team?

Also Peru barely qualified to the world cup and they just pummeled Croatia.

ukraine doesn't give a fuck and are in total disarray.

Russia played brasil, of course they lost.

argentina barely qualified. chile didn't qualify. italy didn't qualify. croatia has been shitty finishind 2nd to icyland. they also played in miami so you know they cared a lot :rolleyes


..

as i've said, wait for official games to judge tbh. Friendlies are for trying shit out.

[dfens]

Worst South American team beating mighty dfens (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=24674) hyped team, Croatia. :lol

son stop celebrating friendlies in miami tbh... Y'all boys better pray croatia doesn't get its shit together otherwise that group could get spicy tbh. You know im right.

[lefty]

More Chileans than Swedes in Stockholm right now, lol.

[Canyonero]

Eurofags taking SA dick even from teams that didn't qualify

[dfens]

Eurofags taking SA dick even from teams that didn't qualify

son I love it that you niggas are getting cocky at just the right moment tbh :lol

[dfens]

Eurofags taking SA dick even from teams that didn't qualify

also given the independiente thing I wouldn't touch any fag related topics for the time being :lmao

[dfens]

https://www.bundesliga.com/en/news/Bundesliga/how-germany-could-look-at-the-2018-world-cup-in-russia-447224.jsp

https://s.bundesliga.com/assets/img/1150000/1146484_imgw750.jpg

https://s.bundesliga.com/assets/img/1170000/1162795_imgw750.jpg

tbh I'm extremely excited about our roster for this world cup .. just the right blend of all ingredients : talent, size, experience, tactical variety but also athleticism and creativity. Low has everything he needs tbh : a truly beautiful roster. It's so nice to create lineups that change 180 degrees with just two changes, it's gonna be tough to play us tbh. It's gonna be a huge tactical advantage over ALL other contenders sans maybe France. We just need to NOT concede and we're golden. Only worry is neuer's form.

if it weren't in Russia i'd put as at a record 40% of winning it all, but since it is in soviet lands we're just at 25%.... tbh we have the best chance to repeat since that '98 brasil squad.

[DAF86]

son I love it that you niggas are getting cocky at just the right moment tbh :lol

Read the previous comment and then this one. :lol

[Canyonero]

son I love it that you niggas are getting cocky at just the right moment tbh :lol

Not cocky, just smashing the eurofag superiority tale fwiw. We should have 10 spots for the WC tbh, so unfair that Europe gets a lot just because there are 293847289347 countries.

[ElNono]

https://www.bundesliga.com/en/news/Bundesliga/how-germany-could-look-at-the-2018-world-cup-in-russia-447224.jsp

https://s.bundesliga.com/assets/img/1150000/1146484_imgw750.jpg

https://s.bundesliga.com/assets/img/1170000/1162795_imgw750.jpg

tbh I'm extremely excited about our roster for this world cup .. just the right blend of all ingredients : talent, size, experience, tactical variety but also athleticism and creativity. Low has everything he needs tbh : a truly beautiful roster. It's so nice to create lineups that change 180 degrees with just two changes, it's gonna be tough to play us tbh. It's gonna be a huge tactical advantage over ALL other contenders sans maybe France. We just need to NOT concede and we're golden. Only worry is neuer's form.

if it weren't in Russia i'd put as at a record 40% of winning it all, but since it is in soviet lands we're just at 25%.... tbh we have the best chance to repeat since that '98 brasil squad.

Is that the Poland roster? :lol

No surprise you're a Lakerfan, tbh...

BTW, what's up with the black players there? Immigration good now? :lol

[dfens]

I can taste the saltiness from here tbh :lol

what's truly funny is that even though SA cuteball is fun it won't be seen much at the world cup, because all the coaches know they need to play euroball to survive, and y'all niggas gonna praise it :lmao:lmao:lmao god bless you sons, you're funny as fuck :toast

[dfens]

Not cocky, just smashing the eurofag superiority tale fwiw. We should have 10 spots for the WC tbh, so unfair that Europe gets a lot just because there are 293847289347 countries.

don't worry sons, missi will rang in '18 and they'll give you beggars more spots. Oh wait :lol

[Spurtacular]

Easy 3-0 win for Mexico's B-team against Euro 17' powerhouses Iceland tbh :lol

A-team was resting for Croatia. We received more of a challenge from Costa Rica. Yawn.

I wanted Iceland at +550; but I knew they were gonna lose, so I laid off.

[dfens]

I wanted Iceland at +550; but I knew they were gonna lose, so I laid off.

son icyland is a one trick pony, with proper preparation they are harmless.

[Canyonero]

don't worry sons, missi will rang in '18 and they'll give you beggars more spots. Oh wait :lol

We acknowledge Euros have a better chance when they get 1945 spots smh.

[dfens]

We acknowledge Euros have a better chance when they get 1945 spots smh.

we da bess :lol

[dfens]

to be completely honest with you sons, the germany-spain match had more talent and high quality team football than ALL of south america combined.

[Spurtacular]

son icyland is a one trick pony, with proper preparation they are harmless.

Surely no problem for your third reich.

[dfens]

Surely no problem for your third reich.

come on son we could beat them niggas with our 7th squad.

[Spurtacular]

come on son we could beat them niggas with our 7th squad.

You's the master race.

[ElNono]

Lanzini >>>>>> Dive Maria

[dfens]

Lanzini >>>>>> Dive Maria

dive maria is broken from all the carrying he's done :cry:cry

[apalisoc_9]

Di maria actually looked really good.

Elnono just hating per usual.

At least bigilia still starts.

[DAF86]

The Euro champions losing 3-0 at home against a team that didn't Quality to the WC. That's how generic and random football is on Europe at NT level.

[apalisoc_9]

Damn.

I'm not surprised though.

They didnt look good against Egypt three days ago.

[DAF86]

Uruguay just beat an Eurocup semifinalist at their home. And so it goes. :sleep

[apalisoc_9]

Uruguay just beat an Eurocup semifinalist at their home. And so it goes. :sleep
dfens

[Canyonero]

The Euro champions losing 3-0 at home against a team that didn't Quality to the WC. That's how generic and random football is on Europe at NT level.

Eder-less Portugal smh

[Jodelo]

The Euro champions losing 3-0 at home against a team that didn't Quality to the WC. That's how generic and random football is on Europe at NT level.

Shows you how bad that Portugal team is :lol Pepe is your second best player after Ronaldo. :lmao Just more props to Ronaldo :bobo


Uruguay just beat an Eurocup semifinalist at their home. And so it goes. :sleep

Game was played in China but Wales is a one-hit-wonder.

[dfens]

dfens (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=24674)

the 2nd best record in south america barely beats fucking wales and y'all niggas talk about it like it's positive :lmao:lmao:lmao
fucking usa was a semifinalist at copa america :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao


that being said, smh we got some motherfucking football games coming our way :wow:wow:wow

spain- argentina
germany - brasil

brasil 3 defensive midfielders announced :lol but but but south american football beautiful and european football ugly :cry:cry :lmao

[lefty]

Looking forward to that Portugal-Algeria friendly in June.

Ronaldo vs our comical defense, shoufd be fun :lol

I have no problem with Ronaldo scoring 5 goals on us, anything to keep his momentum going :worthy

[DAF86]

the 2nd best record in south america barely beats fucking wales and y'all niggas talk about it like it's positive :lmao:lmao:lmao
fucking usa was a semifinalist at copa america :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao


that being said, smh we got some motherfucking football games coming our way :wow:wow:wow

spain- argentina
germany - brasil

brasil 3 defensive midfielders announced :lol but but but south american football beautiful and european football ugly :cry:cry :lmao

Who would those defensive mdifielders be? Renato Augusto and Paulinho who finish every play as center forwards? :lol

Either way, I don't know who said South American football is beatiful and stuff. You are the only one here always bitcing about South American teams not knowing how to defend and shit like that. :lol

[DAF86]

Shows you how bad that Portugal team is :lol Pepe is your second best player after Ronaldo. :lmao Just more props to Ronaldo :bobo

Dude, you can't ever pull that card after Portugal won the whole damn thing thanks to Sidenaldo getting injured and his sub coming on to pull a goal out of his ass, tbh. I mean, if Eder wouldn't have scored an abortion from 50 metres away I guess you could troll somehow, or if the one to pull that miracle was anybody else. but with the way things played out, you just can't, tbh. :lol

[dfens]

Who would those defensive mdifielders be? Renato Augusto and Paulinho who finish every play as center forwards? :lol

Either way, I don't know who said South American football is beatiful and stuff. You are the only one here always bitcing about South American teams not knowing how to defend and shit like that. :lol

With their roster and their wings their midfielders will play very close to the back.

I'm bitching about disorganized play, of which bad defense is just a consequence.

we gon fuck these niggas up sons .. I'm already drunk smh :lol

[dfens]

Dude, you can't ever pull that card after Portugal won the whole damn thing thanks to Sidenaldo getting injured and his sub coming on to pull a goal out of his ass, tbh. I mean, if Eder wouldn't have scored an abortion from 50 metres away I guess you could troll somehow, or if the one to pull that miracle was anybody else. but with the way things played out, you just can't, tbh. :lol

son everybody chokes ... an argentine should know tbh. :lol

that's it niggas I'm off to the bar to see the game, let's hope we see some good football and that the coaches use the game to test out formations/tactics instead of playing for a result.

[lefty]

:lmao LOLgeria

Yeah Ronaldo is gonna score 5 goals on us

[Canyonero]

I thought Russia was going to nuke France.

[140]

Dude, you can't ever pull that card after Portugal won the whole damn thing thanks to Sidenaldo getting injured and his sub coming on to pull a goal out of his ass, tbh. I mean, if Eder wouldn't have scored an abortion from 50 metres away I guess you could troll somehow, or if the one to pull that miracle was anybody else. but with the way things played out, you just can't, tbh. :lol
https://i.imgur.com/vYZn647.png

[DAF86]

That will power :lol

[140]

Other players in times of adversity, meanwhile:

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/141/175/f08.gif

Some of them even promptly quit the NT altogether tbh

[DAF86]

With their roster and their wings their midfielders will play very close to the back.

I'm bitching about disorganized play, of which bad defense is just a consequence.

We gon fuck these niggas up sons .. I'm already drunk smh :lol

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRfAhfkeLGQgvnLC3B-r8SEH_SvgSRkIU7aIg18bHcfX8HmAq6J

[DAF86]

Meanwhile,

:lol Sampalobby
:lol too afraid to play the starters vs Spain
:lol trying to have an excuse for the loss.

[spursistan]

Argentina getting curbstomped without Messi.

If he didn't comeback for the last two qualifiers, they would have certainly missed the WC..

Also I never understood the hype surrounding about this Sampaoli dude..He's been as much of a fuckin joke at the helm as his predecessor..They really should have asked Sabella to pull a Heynckes. At least the team had a modicum of organization and identity under him.

[spursistan]

Spain has been looking impressive since the start of the qualifiers, tbh..I think they should be co-favorite with Germany.



https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRfAhfkeLGQgvnLC3B-r8SEH_SvgSRkIU7aIg18bHcfX8HmAq6J
To be fair Germany played with their B team..

[DAF86]

Spain has been looking impressive since the start of the qualifiers, tbh..I think they should be co-favorite with Germany.



To be fair Germany played with their B team..

He knew that when he made that comment so...

Brazil didn't have some of his starters either, including its best player.

[DAF86]

Sampaoli is going to get embarrassed for trying to avoid getting embarrassed :lmao

[DAF86]

How the fuck can you go to Spain to "try" new shit? :lol

[spursistan]

How the hell did this Sampaoli hack get the HC job?

Argentina has been legitimately worse under him than Bauza :lmao..

[apalisoc_9]

Sampaoli is going to get embarrassed for trying to avoid getting embarrassed :lmao

dont kid yourself bro, Messi and Aguero arent fixing this shit.

The problem with Argentina is a complete disconnect between its lines. It was even slight evident against Italy.


They have the players to fix this problem but its been two years now. I very much doubt theyd improve to fix that issue.

[Canyonero]

Can we sack the coach 2 months before the Cup tbh?

[apalisoc_9]

How the hell did this Sampaoli hack get the HC job?

Argentina has been legitimately worse under him than Bauza :lmao..

Good club record. At this point its evident that the Argentinian lockeroom is a hard lockeroom to manage.

They need an Alpha coach to slap these players around.

[apalisoc_9]

Can we sack the coach 2 months before the Cup tbh?

lol..

That's just going to worsen the problem. There's no real fix.

[Canyonero]

lol..

That's just going to worsen the problem. There's no real fix.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CokjyBvXgAAgwQN.jpg:large

[DAF86]

dont kid yourself bro, Messi and Aguero arent fixing this shit.

The problem with Argentina is a complete disconnect between its lines. It was even slight evident against Italy.


They have the players to fix this problem but its been two years now. I very much doubt theyd improve to fix that issue.

Messi, Agüero, Di María, F.Mori, Mercado, Lanzini, E.Perez.

Having just Agüero instead of Higuaín (who is officially brain burned with the NT) to score that easy tap in at the beggining of the game to make it 1-0 might have changed the whole thing. Also, in a WC knock out game Argentina won't play as open as they did tonight. Or at least I hope so, with Sampalobby you never know.

[spursistan]

Good club record. At this point its evident that the Argentinian lockeroom is a hard lockeroom to manage.

They need an Alpha coach to slap these players around.
I agree, but this isn't NBA basketball. You don't get blown out like that if you miss a star player or two. Soccer is still predicated mostly on organization and tactics. And that is where you know there is a coaching problem..

If not bring Sabella back, they should have tried their best to pry away Simeone from Atletico ..His style and personality translates better at the NT level..

[spursistan]

This isn't about this game, but it is a reflection on the Sampaoli tenure. Argentina has looked like dogshit for real with him at the helm..

[DAF86]

This isn't about this game, but it is a reflection on the Sampaoli tenure. Argentina has looked like dogshit for real with him at the helm..

Nah son. You are thinking of Bauza. This is the first true awful Match of the Sampaoli era. Against Nigeria (the only other game they have lost) Argentina played a great first half and an awful second one. Argentina is going to be fine, they will get at least to the quarters and once there anything can hapen since it will probably be a typical WC knockout stage game between two powerhouses in which details will make the difference.

[Canyonero]

Nah son. You are thinking of Bauza. This is the first true awful Match of the Sampaoli era. Against Nigeria (the only other game they have lost) Argentina played a great first half and an awful second one. Argentina is going to be fine, they will get at least to the quarters and once there anything can hapen since it will probably be a typical WC knockout stage game between two powerhouses in which details will make the difference.

We're fine, we just need to waive Mascherano, Biglia, Banega, Rojo, Di Maria, Higuain, etc.

[DAF86]

And once again, Messi does make a huge difference for Argentina. No team on the World ventures to the other half of the field with the same numbers as they usually do when Messi is on the pitch. That's a huge advantage for Argentina when defending.

[apalisoc_9]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CokjyBvXgAAgwQN.jpg:large

he was fired recently by incompetent Sheiks, but I was watching him closely.

Made a Saudi Club the big boys of the country again and fans love him and hated that he was fired.

Def would have been a good choice.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

I just worry Sampaoli doesn’t start the best possible 11 come WC time. Argentina looked good against Italy, but Italy aren’t evenobviously aren’t even half as good as Spain

[lefty]

And once again, Messi does make a huge difference for Argentina. No team on the World ventures to the other half of the field with the same numbers as they usually do when Messi is on the pitch. That's a huge advantage for Argentina when defending.

What the fuck


Messi wouldn't have made a difference today ,vour defense is comical

:lmao Otamendi

[140]

I agree, but this isn't NBA basketball. You don't get blown out like that if you miss a star player or two. Soccer is still predicated mostly on organization and tactics. And that is where you know there is a coaching problem..

If not bring Sabella back, they should have tried their best to pry away Simeone from Atletico ..His style and personality translates better at the NT level..
They could've had Simeone if they wanted. Problem is he's no yes man tbh.

[dfens]

smh team played poorly, unluckily lost to an impotent brasil, keeper couldn't punch the fucking ball. Can played a horrible ball and that nigga gomez signed his resignation with this game, werner is miles ahead. Even without that we were the better team on the pitch, so I kinda understand what low tried this game (testing pivot, giving 3rd keeper a try, can/kimmich right side so ok, mental fortitude, etc).

Take aways:
1. good tactics from low, players let him down on this one. can, trapp, gomez where key dead hands, all failed their tests. So I guess low knew what to test, so I can't be mad, great coaching tbh in finding out what doesn't work right now.
2. not worried about the team, we'll also again go under the radar during knockout phase so less press besides internal.
3. trapp shouldn't play at this world cup, not there mentally, just unsure of himself, low tested him and he failed, way to many mistakes.
4. that nigga ruddiger likes to risk too much, low gonna remember this.
5. brasil are overrated and are not even making the semis, besides luck-based counters their pressing game is weak and we could control the game with the B-team. I don't care what you niggas say, it's obvious that Brasil can't control midfield and you aren't a real contender if you can't do that, they're just getting by on talent, once shit hits the fan they're done. Their construction game is primitive, this tells me all I need to know in terms of contending. They tried hard this game so I'll give them that, but I can honestly see mexico/sweden giving them real trouble, both are organized space covering teams.

also missi ducking spain :lol nigga plays all the getafe/palmas but can't even lace 'em for his country, what a fucking joke smh..

@daf Canyonero @elabuelo you good sons?

[dfens]

And once again, Messi does make a huge difference for Argentina. No team on the World ventures to the other half of the field with the same numbers as they usually do when Messi is on the pitch. That's a huge advantage for Argentina when defending.

trolling aside, messi isn't going to make much difference if you play like that vs spain.

[DAF86]

trolling aside, messi isn't going to make much difference if you play like that vs spain.

Argentina won't risk bulding play from the last line so reckessly on a knockout stage game. They won't play so open either.

[ElNono]

lmao @ back to Rojo, Masche, Banega, Biglia, Higuain...

Might aswell kept Bauza...

Higuain missing wide open chances against good teams again, smdh...

[ElNono]

Honestly, just read about it, forgot there was a game

[ElNono]

Not surprised at all though

[apalisoc_9]

Biglia..:lol

I was watching the game and theres players from haiti thats better than Biglia.

Argentina :lol

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Biglia..:lol

I was watching the game and theres players from haiti thats better than Biglia.

Argentina :lol

Sampaoli needs to find a proper starting XI, otherwise it's back to Messi and ten pieces of wood

[dfens]

Argentina won't risk bulding play from the last line so reckessly on a knockout stage game. They won't play so open either.

I know son, but that's the problem, playing defensively like that won't win you trophies because you'll meet teams unwilling to play open and then it's a shitshow.
Also it's impossible for me to understand how argentina can't build a proper team with all that fucking talent, you played better with ALL other generations. So that's why I think missi is being comfortable in his NT role instead of doing the right thing and changing culture, building a team, etc. A true leader would've found a way. Fucking portugal won a ring with team-ball so it can be done.

[140]

I know son, but that's the problem, playing defensively like that won't win you trophies because you'll meet teams unwilling to play open and then it's a shitshow.
Also it's impossible for me to understand how argentina can't build a proper team with all that fucking talent, you played better with ALL other generations. So that's why I think missi is being comfortable in his NT role instead of doing the right thing and changing culture, building a team, etc. A true leader would've found a way. Fucking portugal won a ring with team-ball so it can be done.
That's it and that's all tbh son

[DAF86]

I know son, but that's the problem, playing defensively like that won't win you trophies because you'll meet teams unwilling to play open and then it's a shitshow.
Also it's impossible for me to understand how argentina can't build a proper team with all that fucking talent, you played better with ALL other generations. So that's why I think missi is being comfortable in his NT role instead of doing the right thing and changing culture, building a team, etc. A true leader would've found a way. Fucking portugal won a ring with team-ball so it can be done.

Son, no reason to be talking out of your ass. Before this generation, 24 years passed before Argentina could make it past the quarters of a WC. :lol

[dfens]

Son, no reason to be talking out of your ass. Before this generation, 24 years passed before Argentina could make it past the quarters of a WC. :lol

son I judge football not just results. In '14 you got VERY lucky and barely squeeked past old netherlands while facing nigeria/iran and baby belgium and winning 1-0s. Sorry, but your 06 team was better than any missi team, I really enjoyed seeing you play back then. As you see, I'm not talking out of my ass.

EDIT:
let's see a bit of history here:
'94 was a fiasco as the team core was old and maradona was beyond done.
'98 you had a very good team, even beat that STACKED croatian squad, and lost a tough game a historic netherlands (a team that would DOMINATE today). Clearly better football than messi era.
'02 apparent choke but look at those england and sweden sides ..
'06 you played very nice cursive football, just lost to us per par.
'10 per par + maradona coach lol
'14 lucky finals run.

So tbh I really don't see your point. The cruel reality is argentina has squandered messi's NT career.

[DAF86]

I love the objectivity of your post. :lol

[ElNono]

Biglia and Masche have been playing together for like 10 years, tbh... it's not lack of work or that they don't know each other, they just suck...

Now it's too late to change anything... we just wasted Messi's prime with these scrubs, and when we still had time to do something about it, we didn't, tbh...

[apalisoc_9]

Biglia and Masche have been playing together for like 10 years, tbh... it's not lack of work or that they don't know each other, they just suck...

Now it's too late to change anything... we just wasted Messi's prime with these scrubs, and when we still had time to do something about it, we didn't, tbh...

Masche is old. Biglia sucks though :lol

[Amuseddaysleeper]

son I judge football not just results. In '14 you got VERY lucky and barely squeeked past old netherlands while facing nigeria/iran and baby belgium and winning 1-0s. Sorry, but your 06 team was better than any missi team, I really enjoyed seeing you play back then. As you see, I'm not talking out of my ass.

EDIT:
let's see a bit of history here:
'94 was a fiasco as the team core was old and maradona was beyond done.
'98 you had a very good team, even beat that STACKED croatian squad, and lost a tough game a historic netherlands (a team that would DOMINATE today). Clearly better football than messi era.
'02 apparent choke but look at those england and sweden sides ..
'06 you played very nice cursive football, just lost to us per par.
'10 per par + maradona coach lol
'14 lucky finals run.

So tbh I really don't see your point. The cruel reality is argentina has squandered messi's NT career.

Finally you admit it! Argentina has failed Messi far far far more than Messi has failed Argentina.

It's a miracle he even took them to 3 straight finals.

[apalisoc_9]

Finally you admit it! Argentina has failed Messi far far far more than Messi has failed Argentina.

It's a miracle he even took them to 3 straight finals.

Fuck out of here. You make it sound like soccer is basketball. Lol

Misty fanboys at best

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Fuck out of here. You make it sound like soccer is basketball. Lol

Misty fanboys at best

Nope, unlike basketball one man can not beat an entire team. If Higuain didn't bottle every single shot he ever took for Argentina Messi would have had 3 NT trophies

FACT

[apalisoc_9]

Nope, unlike basketball one man can not beat an entire team. If Higuain didn't bottle every single shot he ever took for Argentina Messi would have had 3 NT trophies

FACT

Misty fanboys.

[lefty]

Misty fanboys.
Let's blame everybody but Missi :cry

[dfens]

Finally you admit it! Argentina has failed Messi far far far more than Messi has failed Argentina.

It's a miracle he even took them to 3 straight finals.

Finally :lol come on son you know I'm trolling 100% in here. Even a 2nd grader can see that Argentina has failed midget. Had he played for spain :wow:wow his NT career would've been absolutely ridiculous .. they would be overwhelming favorites to have rang 08/10/12/14/16/18/20, tbh missi and spain were meant to be.

EDIT: that being said messi needs leadership he doesn't go BICK DICK COKED OUT ALPHA AS FUCK like diego. That nigga didn't give a fuck.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Finally :lol come on son you know I'm trolling 100% in here. Even a 2nd grader can see that Argentina has failed midget. Had he played for spain :wow:wow his NT career would've been absolutely ridiculous .. they would be overwhelming favorites to have rang 08/10/12/14/16/18/20, tbh missi and spain were meant to be.

EDIT: that being said messi needs leadership he doesn't go BICK DICK COKED OUT ALPHA AS FUCK like diego. That nigga didn't give a fuck.

:lol true true

I think you and Spain in the WC will be an epic matchup

[dfens]

:lol true true

I think you and Spain in the WC will be an epic matchup

monster game tbh :wow:wow we always get the toughest bracket :cry

[Amuseddaysleeper]

monster game tbh :wow:wow we always get the toughest bracket :cry

And the tougher group stages as well

But you guys are unstoppable this decade regardless, tbh.

[dfens]

And the tougher group stages as well

But you guys are unstoppable this decade regardless, tbh.

Idk about unstoppable. While talent wise this is amazing team, I'm worried that our emotional leaders are older and injured (neuer, khedira, muller)... ozil has a great heart but the heart of a boy, he doesn't have the sacrifice and leadership traits of a leader, draxler is young .... Tbh people don't understand that not talent but mental strength will be the most important for contenders. Especially for us since it'll be very hard in Russia (press, interview, history, eu-russia relations, fans booing, etc).

Talent without sacrifice, integrity and effort is nothing, look at france in '00/spain before xavi/italy right now/brasil in '10-now/argentina right now ... talent is not the problem. Teams need talent that is also willing to sacrifice touches/position/image/health while having their mind 100% in the game .. that's rare.


EDIT: this is why I'm pissed out the modern game, to many pussies, to many pampered stars, to many "i'm to valuable to fight". Hence high skill but unemotional games. And when emotional games happen today's players can't control their emotions (germany-italy in '16, argentina in finals, france since '00, brasil). Imo the best games are the dramatic heart-breaking ones, where everybody is 110%, like say germany-italy in '06.. that's why I can only REALLY enjoy NT games now.

EDIT2: this is also the reason for which I can never put messi over diego. Diego was 110% in, it didn't matter that his body was falling apart, he was 110% MOTHERFUCKING IN.

[DAF86]

The guy that has headbutt Zizou as his GOAT complaining about "today's players not being able to control their emotions" :lol

[dfens]

The guy that has headbutt Zizou as his GOAT complaining about "today's players not being able to control their emotions" :lol

he was the emotional leader of teams that : rang in '98, rang in '00, sucked massively in '02 without him, came out of retirement to lead talented but weak team to penaldos in the world cup ... 3 goals in finals ALONE, many more in key knockout games.... yes the headbutt will always be there but overall that's a GOAT leadership record. man up and accept it, no player today would take on so much pressure and constantly lead to success, as zidane did. none. now get off my lawn tbh.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Idk about unstoppable. While talent wise this is amazing team, I'm worried that our emotional leaders are older and injured (neuer, khedira, muller)... ozil has a great heart but the heart of a boy, he doesn't have the sacrifice and leadership traits of a leader, draxler is young .... Tbh people don't understand that not talent but mental strength will be the most important for contenders. Especially for us since it'll be very hard in Russia (press, interview, history, eu-russia relations, fans booing, etc).

Talent without sacrifice, integrity and effort is nothing, look at france in '00/spain before xavi/italy right now/brasil in '10-now/argentina right now ... talent is not the problem. Teams need talent that is also willing to sacrifice touches/position/image/health while having their mind 100% in the game .. that's rare.


EDIT: this is why I'm pissed out the modern game, to many pussies, to many pampered stars, to many "i'm to valuable to fight". Hence high skill but unemotional games. And when emotional games happen today's players can't control their emotions (germany-italy in '16, argentina in finals, france since '00, brasil). Imo the best games are the dramatic heart-breaking ones, where everybody is 110%, like say germany-italy in '06.. that's why I can only REALLY enjoy NT games now.

EDIT2: this is also the reason for which I can never put messi over diego. Diego was 110% in, it didn't matter that his body was falling apart, he was 110% MOTHERFUCKING IN.

I worry about Germany's strike force but let's see, I think you guys are top 2 for the WC worst case if not #1.

[apalisoc_9]

Dfens, how about a 2-1 bet that Germany doesnt get past the Quarters?

You are so confident so Im sure you will take it son.

200 dollars.

You win I give you 200.

I win you give me 400

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Dfens, how about a 2-1 bet that Germany doesnt get past the Quarters?

You are so confident so Im sure you will take it son.

200 dollars.

You win I give you 200.

I win you give me 400

:wow

Who do you see knocking Germany out in the quarters?

[dfens]

Dfens, how about a 2-1 bet that Germany doesnt get past the Quarters?

You are so confident so Im sure you will take it son.

200 dollars.

You win I give you 200.

I win you give me 400


son I'd take that in a heartbeat for 2000 tbh: we can only run into costa rica/swiss/serbia/england/belgium/tunisia/panama/tunisia/poland/senegal/colombia/japan. anybody would take this bet.
on the other hand I'm not giving my banking details here, so quit reaching you scammer :lol

[DAF86]

he was the emotional leader of teams that : rang in '98, rang in '00, sucked massively in '02 without him, came out of retirement to lead talented but weak team to penaldos in the world cup ... 3 goals in finals ALONE, many more in key knockout games.... yes the headbutt will always be there but overall that's a GOAT leadership record. man up and accept it, no player today would take on so much pressure and constantly lead to success, as zidane did. none. now get off my lawn tbh.

Please tell me which are the other "many more" knock out stages goals that Zidane has on WC. :lol

[dfens]

Please tell me which are the other "many more" knock out stages goals that Zidane has on WC. :lol

so 3 goals in world cup finals plus:
vs portugal '06 semifinals
vs spain '06 round of 16
vs portugal '00 semifinals
vs spain '00 quarter finals

now please let's compare to Missi's knockout goals at NT : vs Venezuela '16, vs USA '16, vs peru '07, vs mexico '07 .. none at the world cup knockout stage, the only non-trash team is '07 mexico, which isn't even in the same zip code as zidane's opponents.

Do you see a difference here in both volume and quality?
Do you want me to post diego's knockout goals too?
step up son.

[Jodelo]

so 3 goals in world cup finals plus:
vs portugal '06 semifinals
vs spain '06 round of 16
vs portugal '00 semifinals
vs spain '00 quarter finals

now please let's compare to Missi's knockout goals at NT : vs Venezuela '16, vs USA '16, vs peru '07, vs mexico '07 .. none at the world cup knockout stage, the only non-trash team is '07 mexico, which isn't even in the same zip code as zidane's opponents.

Do you see a difference here in both volume and quality?
Do you want me to post diego's knockout goals too?
step up son.

Just Zidane doing the usual GOAT things. :wakeup

[apalisoc_9]

son I'd take that in a heartbeat for 2000 tbh: we can only run into costa rica/swiss/serbia/england/belgium/tunisia/panama/tunisia/poland/senegal/colombia/japan. anybody would take this bet.
on the other hand I'm not giving my banking details here, so quit reaching you scammer :lol

Paypal bro.

No one needs your banking details

[DAF86]

vs portugal '06 semifinals

Penaldo


vs spain '06 round of 16

Legit


vs portugal '00 semifinals
vs spain '00 quarter finals

Not WC.

So yeah, "the many more" is 1. :lol

[dfens]

Penaldo



Legit



Not WC.

So yeah, "the many more" is 1. :lol

son you're talking about penaldos as if they're guaranteed goals .. you still have to score them tbh. insert missi choke per par.
you're right, they're not wc, they're still key goals in high level NT knockout games against very strong opposition.

also if you want we can talk assists, game control, whatever you want tbh, if it has stats then zidane probably has better stats then missi in games where NT needed them (knockout stages, vs strong teams at euro/world, etc). Tbh you started this numeric call-out so at least be a man and accept the reality, that zidane stats >>> missi stats for NT competitions.