View Full Version : China says North korea to give up nukes...
CosmicCowboy
03-28-2018, 07:40 AM
Holy shit. Trumps an ass, but if he pulls this off it will be pretty fucking big.You guys keep obsessing about Stormy Daniels though.
clambake
03-28-2018, 08:53 AM
yeah right. never ever gonna give them up. you know better.
CosmicCowboy
03-28-2018, 09:11 AM
Looks like Xi put his foot on his neck.
clambake
03-28-2018, 09:18 AM
sure
Pavlov
03-28-2018, 10:02 AM
:cheer Holy shit. Trumps an ass, but if he pulls this off it will be pretty fucking big.You guys keep obsessing about Stormy Daniels though. :cheerXi makes them give up nukes and you credit Trump.
lol
CosmicCowboy
03-28-2018, 10:15 AM
Xi makes them give up nukes and you credit Trump.
lol
Are you so partisan you can't admit timing of heightened military presense in the area and pending sanctions might have played a part?
Pavlov
03-28-2018, 10:27 AM
Are you so partisan you can't admit timing of heightened military presense in the area and pending sanctions might have played a part?Not much, unless you're saying Trump really wanted to go to war.
Are you saying that?
DPRK's negotiating power will never be higher than now. Looks like they negotiated with Xi.
CosmicCowboy
03-28-2018, 10:40 AM
Not much, unless you're saying Trump really wanted to go to war.
Are you saying that?
DPRK's negotiating power will never be higher than now. Looks like they negotiated with Xi.
So Xis decision to back down NK was just arbitrarily made in a vacuum? Could have just as easily done it when Bush was president?
baseline bum
03-28-2018, 10:42 AM
If it actually shakes out you'd have to give Trump huge credit. But we'd need regular UN inspections like with Saddam. If true I imagine he negotiated a treaty with China that would assure them declaring war on us if we ever attacked or invaded the DPRK, as we typically do when getting a dictator to give up a nuclear program.
CosmicCowboy
03-28-2018, 10:44 AM
If it actually shakes out you'd have to give Trump huge credit. But we'd need regular UN inspections like with Saddam. If true I imagine he negotiated a treaty with China that would assure them declaring war on us if we ever attacked or invaded the DPRK, as we typically do when getting a dictator to give up a nuclear program.
That seems like the plan.
Pavlov
03-28-2018, 11:19 AM
So Xis decision to back down NK was just arbitrarily made in a vacuum? Could have just as easily done it when Bush was president?No, because the DPRK didn't have nukes then.
The trick back then would have been following through with our bribes. We did not do that.
CosmicCowboy
03-28-2018, 11:28 AM
No, because the DPRK didn't have nukes then.
The trick back then would have been following through with our bribes. We did not do that.
So the difference was DPRK had nukes?
DPRK has had nukes for 12 years. Why not then? Why now?
boutons_deux
03-28-2018, 11:31 AM
China controls NK, not Trash
China gets NK to talk, and Trash hits China with $60B on tariffs
Trill Clinton
03-28-2018, 11:35 AM
What did trump do? Dennis Rodman deserves the credit if they give up nukes.
Or maybe China finally knows how Trump's tiny brain works and told them to just lie about it and he'll buy it because he's desperate for a win.
North Korea is going to willingly give up their nukes just as much as Russia wants to be our "friend." :lol Trumpers are so gullible.
China controls NK, not Trash
China gets NK to talk, and Trash hits China with $60B on tariffs
You have it backwards. Trump hits China with tariffs, China gets NK to talk, Trump eases tariffs on China.
Pavlov
03-28-2018, 11:59 AM
So the difference was DPRK had nukes?
DPRK has had nukes for 12 years. Why not then? Why now?Yeah, they were threatening to send nukes by DHL all this time.
djohn2oo8
03-28-2018, 12:01 PM
Or maybe China finally knows how Trump's tiny brain works and told them to just lie about it and he'll buy it because he's desperate for a win.
North Korea is going to willingly give up their nukes just as much as Russia wants to be our "friend." :lol Trumpers are so gullible.
This.
DeadlyDynasty
03-28-2018, 12:38 PM
What did trump do? Dennis Rodman deserves the credit if they give up nukes.
:lol
baseline bum
03-28-2018, 12:46 PM
What did trump do? Dennis Rodman deserves the credit if they give up nukes.
Fuck Rodman. At least Trump didn't cost the Spurs a title.
baseline bum
03-28-2018, 01:13 PM
You gotta wonder if this is just China telling the US to fuck off though, and affirming their alliance to North Korea. If China is supposed to be the one responsible for policing the alleged North Korean denuclearization then this is more like a warning shot from China to Trump and Bolton.
Pavlov
03-28-2018, 01:19 PM
You gotta wonder if this is just China telling the US to fuck off though, and affirming their alliance to North Korea. If China is supposed to be the one responsible for policing the alleged North Korean denuclearization then this is more like a warning shot from China to Trump and Bolton.Superficially I see it more as Xi's pushing the US further out of perceived international standing, but yes -- Kim is not giving up nukes for without getting something in return. I wouldn't be surprised to see a more formal security agreement between the two countries, for example.
CosmicCowboy
03-28-2018, 01:34 PM
Its been pretty clear China would backstop the DPNK since they crossed the Yalu in 1950. I'm fine with them formalizing the deal as long as fatboy gives up the nukes.
pgardn
03-28-2018, 01:44 PM
If China really makes them give up their missiles that carry the warheads, and the warheads, this is huge. China is infinitely more stable than a NK with a family member having a decision. Next step, feed their people. People are taking great liberty in assigning praise.
koriwhat
03-28-2018, 01:56 PM
If China really makes them give up their missiles that carry the warheads, and the warheads, this is huge. China is infinitely more stable than a NK with a family member having a decision. Next step, feed their people. People are taking great liberty in assigning praise.
sadly for the left, it isn't china's doing. lmao!
Pavlov
03-28-2018, 02:16 PM
sadly for the left, it isn't china's doing. lmao!lol Kim just got back from China.
CosmicCowboy
03-28-2018, 03:00 PM
In chumps world, all decisions are made in a vacuum. China just suddenly decided to denuke fatboy because...aw hell, its Tuesday...why not?
Pavlov
03-28-2018, 03:02 PM
In chumps world, all decisions are made in a vacuum. China just suddenly decided to denuke fatboy because...aw hell, its Tuesday...why not?I said Kim will never be in a better bargaining position. You made the mistake of thinking he wouldn't bargain with China.
CosmicCowboy
03-28-2018, 03:05 PM
I said Kim will never be in a better bargaining position. You made the mistake of thinking he wouldn't bargain with China.
Thats just fucking dumb. China has always been the key to denuking fatboy.
hater
03-28-2018, 03:07 PM
Win win move for Kim Kong tbqh :wow
Giving up his 2 or 3 nonworking shitty missiles for guaranteed security for his empire and opening of the world stqge is fucking huge!
:tu :tu hes a fucking bad ass if he pulls this off. Went Dr Evil with the world and won
Pavlov
03-28-2018, 03:08 PM
Thats just fucking dumb. China has always been the key to denuking fatboy.Look, you want desperately to cheer for Trump without acting like the cheerleader you are.
Just own it. You want to give Trump all the credit here. Go ahead. No one is stopping you. I'm just saying it's difficult to argue Kim and Xi aren't getting everything they could want out of this without even including Trump in any of it.
CosmicCowboy
03-28-2018, 03:11 PM
Look, you want desperately to cheer for Trump without acting like the cheerleader you are.
Just own it. You want to give Trump all the credit here. Go ahead. No one is stopping you. I'm just saying it's difficult to argue Kim and Xi aren't getting everything they could want out of this without even including Trump in any of it.
The world isnt black and white, shithead. China clearly thinks it is in its best interests to rein in fatboy. Im not trying to give Trump all the credit but clearly the administrations policies have influenced Chinas behavior. Its laughable that you cant admit that.
CosmicCowboy
03-28-2018, 03:14 PM
Its obviously unclear how this ultimately ends up but it is clearly a step in the right direction.
Chucho
03-28-2018, 03:15 PM
Ls being taken these past two days by those who try hardest to avoid them...except a certain moron who always fails.
Pavlov
03-28-2018, 03:16 PM
The world isnt black and white, shithead. China clearly thinks it is in its best interests to rein in fatboy. Im not trying to give Trump all the credit but clearly the administrations policies have influenced Chinas behavior. Its laughable that you cant admit that.I do agree that Trump has played into Xi's hands at every turn, sure.
All credit goes to Trump for accelerating Xi's ascension on the world stage. Good job! :tu
CosmicCowboy
03-28-2018, 03:26 PM
I do agree that Trump has played into Xi's hands at every turn, sure.
All credit goes to Trump for accelerating Xi's ascension on the world stage. Good job! :tu
:lol
Fucking whiner. Cant even admit that a denuked DPRK is a good thing.
WaWaWa Hillary lost!
CosmicCowboy
03-28-2018, 03:27 PM
You dont have to love Trump to think its a good thing.
Pavlov
03-28-2018, 03:29 PM
:lol
Fucking whiner. Cant even admit that a denuked DPRK is a good thing.
WaWaWa Hillary lost!Straw man followed immediately by a *ding*
CC's upset.
Pavlov
03-28-2018, 03:29 PM
You dont have to love Trump to think its a good thing.But you do love Trump.
CosmicCowboy
03-28-2018, 03:31 PM
But you do love Trump.
About like you love cock.
Pavlov
03-28-2018, 03:32 PM
About like you love cock.lol CC's really upset
:lol
Fucking whiner. Cant even admit that a denuked DPRK is a good thing.
WaWaWa Hillary lost!
It is a good thing. But it's not going to happen so stop acting like it's a done deal.
By the way, whatever deal would be struck, it is clear who the deal would be for and benefit more. China and North Korea.
The fact that China has excluded the US in any negotiation and when you look where South Korea is in all this should tell you a lot.
South Korea were the ones to actually get the ball rolling. In the end, China scooped them. Neither the US or SK were in any way involve in this latest development of denuclearization.
It is a good thing. But it's not going to happen so stop acting like it's a done deal.
By the way, whatever deal would be struck, it is clear who the deal would be for and benefit more. China and North Korea.
The fact that China has excluded the US in any negotiation and when you look where South Korea is in all this should tell you a lot.
South Korea were the ones to actually get the ball rolling. In the end, China scooped them. Neither the US or SK were in any way involve in this latest development of denuclearization.
:lol Kim is meeting with SK and the US next.
:lol Kim is meeting with SK and the US next.
After meeting with China when the "deal" is already in between the two of them. Follow along pizzaboy.
After meeting with China when the "deal" is already in between the two of them. Follow along pizzaboy.
:lol yes yes you're right the deal is just between China an NK
:lol yes yes you're right the deal is just between China an NK
:lol gullible fuckstick.
Trump slaps tarrifs on China and a few days later China meets with NK, cutting the US completely out of it and you think we're in control of the situation? :lol
We have no leverage on them anymore. Imposing tarriffs on China was a shithead move that allowed them the freedom to go straight to the source and make their own deal without the orange buffon.
There are only 2 players here. China and North Korea.
:lol gullible fuckstick.
Trump slaps tarrifs on China and a few days later China meets with NK, cutting the US completely out of it and you think we're in control of the situation? :lol
We have no leverage on them anymore. Imposing tarriffs on China was a shithead move that allowed them the freedom to go straight to the source and make their own deal without the orange buffon.
There are only 2 players here. China and North Korea.
Trump hits China with tariffs, China gets NK to talk, Trump eases tariffs on China.
CosmicCowboy
03-28-2018, 04:06 PM
:lol gullible fuckstick.
Trump slaps tarrifs on China and a few days later China meets with NK, cutting the US completely out of it and you think we're in control of the situation? :lol
We have no leverage on them anymore. Imposing tarriffs on China was a shithead move that allowed them the freedom to go straight to the source and make their own deal without the orange buffon.
There are only 2 players here. China and North Korea.
The US NEVER had influence over North Korea. It had always been clear that the path to reining them in was through China. And yes, I think the tariffs may have encouraged China to finally act.
Pavlov
03-28-2018, 04:07 PM
What Trump tariffs against China are in effect right now?
CosmicCowboy
03-28-2018, 04:07 PM
China could gave shut down fatboy any time they wanted to. You have to wonder why they finally did it now.
CosmicCowboy
03-28-2018, 04:08 PM
What Trump tariffs against China are in effect right now?
None. That was the point.
The US NEVER had influence over North Korea. It had always been clear that the path to reining them in was through China. And yes, I think the tariffs may have encouraged China to finally act.
I mean influencing China. What this did was make them proactive. Only China holds the chips when it comes to North Korea. Nothing gets done without them.
Pavlov
03-28-2018, 04:10 PM
None.Oh.
hater
03-28-2018, 06:23 PM
Props to Trump for talking to the other side tbqh
Shitlery and Obomba would never talk to the other side thus would fail everytime
Kim Kong is a genius yo take advqntage of Trumps openness
Its a great thing for world peace
I been saying it Trump was good for world peace miles better than Shitler
Thank Gods Trump won :tu
Kim kong + Trump + Xi + Putin = world peace
pgardn
03-28-2018, 07:53 PM
Win win move for Kim Kong tbqh :wow
Giving up his 2 or 3 nonworking shitty missiles for guaranteed security for his empire and opening of the world stqge is fucking huge!
:tu :tu hes a fucking bad ass if he pulls this off. Went Dr Evil with the world and won
Badass..
This family has starved their people since grandad, that's badass?
And if he does open up his country to the "world stage" , whatever that is, he will not continue to starve his people without someone outside trying to "interfere" meaning, feed them.
Hater is the most god awful poster of all time.
Avante
03-29-2018, 02:34 PM
How damn stupid can NK be? Ok, they wipe out Oregon, Washingyon, California, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico. The next shot wipes them off the face of the earth.
Japan didn't know we had THE BOMB?
hater
03-30-2018, 07:53 AM
How damn stupid can NK be? Ok, they wipe out Oregon, Washingyon, California, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico. The next shot wipes them off the face of the earth.
Japan didn't know we had THE BOMB?
Even one nuke on Us mainland would be devastating for US. It would be equivalent to 1000 september 11s.
The economy would crash, food supplies would drop and nuclear fallout would force millions to relocate
Sure NK would be wiped out to as well as SK and part of china
Kim Kong is a damn genius to give that up for guaranteed security for his empire for the rest of his life and opening up of world market to NK
Lets see what happens. I dont see US doing this
HONG KONG/BEIJING (Reuters) - China is taking its first steps towards paying for imported crude oil in yuan instead of the U.S. dollar, three people with knowledge of the matter told Reuters, a key development in Beijing’s efforts to establish its currency internationally.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-oil-yuan-exclusive/exclusive-china-taking-first-steps-to-pay-for-oil-in-yuan-this-year-sources-idUSKBN1H51FA
China deep dicking Trump. :lol
:lol TSA (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7640) taking losses up the ass lately
:cry Tarriffs will show 'em
:lol It's all part of the master plan
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