The Novichok hoax is crumbling on its own weight

[hater]

:lmao apparently the Skripal daughter is recovering very well and father is now in stable condition. This is from an attack with a military grade nerve agent 10 times more deadly than VX gas

Still nobody else in the hospital or first responders have even tested positive for even a trace :lol

Brit government claims the pair was exposed to the chemical at their home and have now removed the front door of the house. 3 weeks later

The pair left their house at 9am and were found at 4pm at a park bench. Means somehow Novichok waited about 7 hours to take effect. A military grade nerve agent 10 times more deadly than VX gas :lmao

And now this. Cornell professon going in raw :lmao

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:lmao Teresa May :lol bitch looks like Mr Beans baker

:lmao boris johnson :lol

[Pavlov]

:lmao apparently the Skripal daughter is recovering very well and father is now in stable condition. This is from an attack with a military grade chem 10 times more powerful than VX

Still nobody else in the hospital or first responders have even tested positive for even a trace :lol

Brit government claims the pair was exposed to the chemical at their home and have now removed the front door of the house. 3 weeks later

The pair left their house at 9am and were found at 4pm at a park bench. Means somehow Novichok waited about 7 hours to take effect. A kilitary grade chem 10 times more powerful than VX :lmao

And now this. Cornell professon going in raw :lmao

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:lmao Teresa May :lol bitch looks like Mr Beans baker

:lmao boris johnson :lolWhy are you shitting on Trump today?

[DMX7]

Hater talking as if he had a clue. Pitty post.

[hater]

It sems all this Novichok hoax has done is unite China and Russia even further

No wonder thay decided to link both countries satellite networks together and doing drills

This from china global times

The fact that major Western powers can gang up and "sentence" a foreign country without following the same procedures other countries abide by and according to the basic tenets of international law is chilling.
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Over the past few years the international standard has been falsified and manipulated in ways never seen before.
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It is beyond outrageous how the US and Europe have treated Russia. Their actions represent a frivolity and recklessness that has grown to characterize Western hegemony that only knows how to contaminate international relations. Right now is the perfect time for non-Western nations to strengthen unity and collaborative efforts among one another.

[Pavlov]

It sems all this Novichok hoax has done is unite China and Russia even further

No wonder thay decided to link both countries satellite networks together and doing drills

This from china global times

The fact that major Western powers can gang up and "sentence" a foreign country without following the same procedures other countries abide by and according to the basic tenets of international law is chilling.
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Over the past few years the international standard has been falsified and manipulated in ways never seen before.
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It is beyond outrageous how the US and Europe have treated Russia. Their actions represent a frivolity and recklessness that has grown to characterize Western hegemony that only knows how to contaminate international relations. Right now is the perfect time for non-Western nations to strengthen unity and collaborative efforts among one another.lol China

What does RT have to say about it?

[pgardn]

Fckn idiot...

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/01/world/europe/russia-sergei-skripal-uk-spy-poisoning.html

The Russians are advertising to their own turncoats don't play games with us and you drunkenly stumble on your way. At least recognize Putin as a bad ass for killing his own spies. You gotta do better hater, this is embarrassing...

[Chris]

Theresa May looks like that Merkel bitch :lol

[hater]

Theresa May looks like that Merkel bitch :lol

:lol

What kind of cucks live in those 2 nations to elect 2 granjies to lead their nuclear superpowers :lmao

Its like if americans had elected Barbra Bush or someshit :lmao

Germany britain what lands of cucks

[hater]

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:lmao

[boutons_deux]

rightwingnuts duped into defending Pootin as innocent of murder :lol

[hater]

Dum dum dum

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[hater]

In a major embarrassment to the UK establishment, the chief scientist from the UK's Porton Down military laboratory facility, Gary Aitkenhead, told Sky News that they had been unable to prove that the novichok nerve agent used to poison Sergei and Yulia Skripal came from Russia.


:lmao Teres:lol M:loly

B:lolris J:lolhns:loln

[Pavlov]

You can always tell hater knows he's backing a loser when he posts a bunch of stuff with no links at all.

[pgardn]

Fckn idiot...

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/01/world/europe/russia-sergei-skripal-uk-spy-poisoning.html

The Russians are advertising to their own turncoats don't play games with us and you drunkenly stumble on your way. At least recognize Putin as a bad ass for killing his own spies. You gotta do better hater, this is embarrassing...


Keep it real.

[hater]

Lol

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[Pavlov]

hater moved his own goalpost and doesn't even realize it.

[koriwhat]

Germany britain what lands of cucks

:tu

[Chris]

I agree Britain is especially cuckish these days sans Tommy Robinson and Nigel Farrage. How the once mighty have fallen.

[Chris]

Shapiro goes nuclear on Piers (again)

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[RandomGuy]

You can always tell hater knows he's backing a loser when he posts a bunch of stuff with no links at all.

So many smileys... this shit seems to have set him off.

[hater]

:lmao B:lolris J:lolhns:loln

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[hater]

Hes done :lol

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[hater]

:lol ma niga Lavrov going in RAW

Sergei Lavrov accuses West of 'children's games'

"We do not want to play children's games, but so far our partners are doing precisely that," he added, saying it was up to them to reduce tensions.

"When we were kids we used to say whoever started it should be the one to finish it."

Dayum

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-europe-43619362

[Pavlov]

:lol ma niga Lavrov going in RAW

Sergei Lavrov accuses West of 'children's games'

"We do not want to play children's games, but so far our partners are doing precisely that," he added, saying it was up to them to reduce tensions.

"When we were kids we used to say whoever started it should be the one to finish it."

Dayum

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-europe-43619362Which side are you on today?

UK poisoned this guy and his daughter because reasons?

[Chris]

Porton looks like a combination of Gary Busey and Jimmy Saville :lol

[Pavlov]

Porton looks like a combination of Gary Busey and Jimmy Saville :lolPorton Down isn't a person, Chris.

[spurraider21]

Porton looks like a combination of Gary Busey and Jimmy Saville :lol


Porton Down isn't a person, Chris.
:lmao

he doesn't know who boris johnson is

[hater]

Porton looks like a combination of Gary Busey and Jimmy Saville :lol

:lmao thats aboris Johnson

Brittish Foreign Minister :lol

Dude is a monty python character :lmao

https://media.giphy.com/media/rL6yWg6hlFUIg/giphy.gif

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[Chris]

Porton Down isn't a person, Chris.

I edited my original post and accidentally swapped Porton with Boris. I'm trying to post on a shitty iPhone 5c with a shittier battery.

[Chris]

:lmao thats aboris Johnson

Brittish Foreign Minister :lol

Dude is a monty python character :lmao

https://media.giphy.com/media/rL6yWg6hlFUIg/giphy.gif

https://media.giphy.com/media/rL6yWg6hlFUIg/giphy.gif

http://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/http-makeagif-com-media-4-29-2014-x0b2pz.gif

:lmao

[spurraider21]

I edited my original post and accidentally swapped Porton with Boris. I'm trying to post on a shitty iPhone 5c with a shittier battery.
yeah my iphone always autocorrects boris to porton. so annoying

[Chris]

yeah my iphone always autocorrects boris to porton. so annoying

Wasn't autocorrect churl.

[Pavlov]

yeah my iphone always autocorrects boris to porton. so annoyingI always liked Porton and Natasha cartoons.

[hater]

To be fair Boris does look like a Porton with Down syndrome :lol

[hater]

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[hater]

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[pgardn]

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Did you read the article?

Because if you did, you would not have put this up.
Putin would not approve. It's basically the same story the most accurate press has been putting up all along.

The Russians did it. And to add to that it goes higher than rogue agents showing yet another defector how it goes of you leave and still fail to recognize the motherland as having the final word. It's a very clear warning for Russians agents abroad...

[hater]

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[Chris]

To be fair Boris does look like a Porton with Down syndrome :lol

:lol Porton Johnson

[Chris]

Good journalism here

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[hater]

:lol Porton Johnson

:lol I can just picture Teresa calling him to her office

“Porton!! Ya fucking bloody imbecile.. what have you been saying to the media?”

“Portooon saay... naaaaa veeeee chooook....”

[Pavlov]

keith keith and Clogged Cog.

[pgardn]

The degenerate argument...

Boris Johnson is a goofball.
Teresa May is old and ugly.
Angela Merckel is old and ugly.

The British poisoned exRussian spy and associated law enforcement on UK territory to create an utter mess for absolutely no good reason. Russia PUBLICALLY warned turncoats and those threatening the Motherland BEFORE the UK even had the evidence in to make the call on Russia.

Now apply hater logic. Stinky stuff.

Russia knows that we know. This is a tool to see what kind of reaction they get from the West. It was harsh. The hurt is on them. We get tired of keeping tabs on their spies so we just threw a bunch of them out. More sanctions to come. Oligarchs gonna have their money frozen and can't pay for Westen pleasure. It's tough when you are spoiled and at the top as well. Russia tested the water. Got a stinging reaction. Now that Bolton is in, expect this to get worse. In the long run its not good for either group. Bolton is willing to play a very dangerous game. Hit Russian computer systems that are relied upon and easily hacked or set off by bugs waiting to be set loose.

[hater]

Nah first of all “the russians did the skrippal job” is not a proven fact not even close. There is absolutely no factual evidence pointing to russia.
- lets say “Putin warnd his enemies days before” so what? That dos not prove anything and would not hold water on any court of law
- and the “they wanted to set an example” it also holds no water. First of all Skrippal was an agent from a spy exchange swap. Russia could have killed any of their enemies without risking their spy swap program. Killing a spy swap guy would only hurt russia as it could risk future swaps
- skrippal was a retired meaningless guy. No reason for russia to kill the guy. No motivation at all

And now the UK theory. It has more holes than swiss cheese:
- porton down has said they cannot tell it came from russia
- UK foreign office is backtracking on their story that Porton Down told them it was the Russiand and they even deleted a tweet from them which alleged it
- uk govmnt has not provided ANY evidence that points to russia. Im talking about factual physical evidence. There is none
- A month after the attack, they cant even say HOW skrippal was poisoned. They have floated theory after theory from Putin putting it in a cereal box, to delivered by drone, to used aerosol to smearing it on their front door
- their last theory that it was smeared on their front door makes no sense. They left the house at 9am and were found away from the house at 4pm. Novichok takes at kost 30 min to kill someone not 6+ hours
- military grade novichok is 8 times more lethal than VX gas yet Skrippal is now in stable condition and his daugher is awake, talking and eating. Also nobody else has fallen ill. Hundreds of ppl roaming around the house and hospital. It was either not that military grade novichok or it was a hit job by amateurs


As you can see there are way too many holes in this story yet to call it a slam dunk case pointing to Russia is gery wrong. Anyone with a couple braincells would agree

Good thing is OCW convention will release a statement soon on this l. Those are the actual scientists that look at actual physical evidence

Lets wait for that and see. But in the meantime this is far far far from a slam dunk case pointing to Russia

[hater]

This is the tweet just deleted by Brittish Foreign office

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[Pavlov]

Who are you saying did this, hater?

[hater]

I already said in my opinion its a false flag operation, a hoax. Same exact modus operandi as WMDs Iraq hoax or Operation Hades false flag where German intelligence planted plutonium in a Russian plane.

Same band of clowns parading through radio/tv yelling lies with no proof. Same media hyping them up and spreading the lies. Same idiot citizens eating up the lie and digesting it as fact.

[Pavlov]

I already said in my opinion its a false flag operation, a hoax. Same exact modus operandi as WMDs Iraq hoax or Operation Hades false flag where German intelligence planted plutonium in a Russian plane.

Same band of clowns parading through radio/tv yelling lies with no proof. Same media hyping them up and spreading the lies. Same idiot citizens eating up the lie and digesting it as fact.

For what purpose?

[hater]

Same reason as WMDs false flag

- distraction from internal problems
- punish foreign adversaries
- increased military spending
- increased police state laws

[Pavlov]

Same reason as WMDs false flag

- distraction from internal problems
- punish foreign adversaries
- increased military spending
- increased police state laws

:lol false flag of convenience

[hater]

:lol P:lolrt:loln J:lolhns:loln

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[hater]

:lol Porton Johnson

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[pgardn]

:lol Porton Johnson

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Boris Johnson does not gather the evidence. He’s a clown. He’s as bad os some of Trumps appointments. Boris Johnson did not convince the US, French, and Germans who did this, British intelligence did.

Hater can’t separate politics in the UK from what allies have done with the Russians warning their own expatriates to beware, we can still get you.

[hater]

:wow holy shit Brittish Foreign office caught redhanded trying to cover up their lies

:lmao holeee sheet

They revised a transcript from Brit ambassador deleting critical word:


Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
« Operation Hades Blamed Russia - A Model For The 'Novichok' Claims? | Main
April 04, 2018
"It's The Cover-Up" - UK Foreign Office Deletes Tweet, Posts False Transcript, Issues New Lies

It's Not The Crime, It's The Cover-Up:

When a scandal breaks, the discovery of an attempt to cover up is often regarded as even more reprehensible than the original deeds.
The British government is trying to cover-up the lies it made with its false allegations against Russia. The cover-up necessitates new lies some of which we expose below.

Yesterday the head of the British chemical weapon laboratory in Porton Down stated that the laboratory can not establish that the poison used in the alleged 'Novichok' attack in Salisbury was produced by Russia. This was a severe blow to the British government allegations of Russian involvement in the poisoning of Sergej and Yulia Skripal.

Now the British government tries to hide that it said that the poison used in the Salisbury was 'produced in Russia' and that Porton down had proved that to be the case. The government aligned media are helping to stuff the government lies down the memory hole.

We all need to make sure that the new lies get exposed and that the attempts to change the record fail.

Yesterday the British Foreign Office deleted this from its Twitter account:


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The March 22 tweet was part of a now interrupted thread which summarized a briefing on the UK government's response to the Salisbury incident given by the British Ambassador to Russia, Dr Laurie Bristow, to the international diplomatic community in Moscow.

After the silent scrubbing of the record was publicly questioned the Foreign Office admitted that it deleted the tweet:

After it emerged on Wednesday that the tweet had been deleted, the Foreign Office said the post was removed because it "did not accurately report" the words of Laurie Bristow, the UK's ambassador to Russia, which the tweet was supposed to be quoting.
Hmm - fool me once ...

All the tweets in the thread used quotation marks, but none was a literal reproduction of the ambassador's briefing. Only one of the tweets was deleted. A look at the transcript and video of the briefing shows that all the tweets, including the deleted one, "accurately reported" the speech. The cover-up of the false statement the ambassador made thus includes at least one new lie.

The original tweet said "Analysis by world-leading experts at the Defense Science and Technology Laboratory at Porton Down made clear that this was a military-grade Novichok nerve agent produced in Russia. .."

The transcript of the briefing in Moscow - "exactly as it was delivered" - is (still) available at the Foreign Office website.


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The ambassador, reading from a prepared script, recapitulates the event and, according to the posted transcript, then says:

Four days later the analysts at Porton Down, the Defence Science and Technology Laboratory in the UK, established and made clear that this was a military-grade chemical weapon. One of the Novichok series; a nerve agent as I said produced in Russia. Porton Down is an Organisation for Prohibition of Chemical Weapons accredited and designated laboratory.
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First, there is no doubt that the weapon used in the attack was the military-grade nerve agent from the Novichok series. This has been confirmed by specialists, our specialists. An Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons mission is in the UK now to independently confirm this analysis.
There is also no doubt that Novichok was produced in Russia by the Russian state.

The last line in the -"exactly as it was delivered" - transcript is false. Here is my transcription from a short Foreign Office video of the briefing (saved copy) which includes the uncut passage of the last two paragraphs quoted above:

... there is no doubt that the weapon used in the attack was the military-grade nerve agent from the Novichok series. This has been confirmed by specialists, our specialists. On Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons mission is in the UK now to independently confirm this analysis.
There is also no doubt that the Novichok was produced in Russia by the Russian state.

The written "exactly as it was delivered" transcript of the briefing says "... that Novichok was produced ...". At 0:20 in the video I clearly hear the ambassador saying "... that the Novichok was produced ...". A tiny but very important difference.

The person who put the official captions on the official Foreign Office video agrees with what I hear and transcribed.

http://www.moonofalabama.org/images6/bristowspeech2.jpg

The ambassador referred to "the Novichok", the Novichok he specifically mentioned earlier in the speech. The Novichok that he said had been detected by Porton Down. The transcript on the Foreign Office website leaves out the definite article "the". It makes it look as if the ambassador referred to some unspecified batch of the substance.

The deleted tweet was a faithful rendition of what the ambassador said, it "accurately reported" it. The transcript the Foreign office posted on its website is false. The ambassador clearly accused Russia of having produced the very batch that Porton Down analyzed.

Three days earlier Bristow's boss, Foreign Minister Boris Johnson, made the same false claim (vid at 5:32) in an interview with DW.

Porton Down has now said that it made no such claim. The ambassador's claim was false. The Foreign Office attempt to cover this up by deleting its tweet and by posting a not-so-exact transcript only amplifies the falsehood of the original claims.

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/04/its-the-cover-up-uk-foreign-office-deletes-tweet-posts-false-transcript-issues-new-lies.html#more

[hater]

Brittish forign office basically behaving like a spurstalk troll and editing their posts after being caught in a lie :lmao :lol

[koriwhat]

I already said in my opinion its a false flag operation, a hoax. Same exact modus operandi as WMDs Iraq hoax or Operation Hades false flag where German intelligence planted plutonium in a Russian plane.

Same band of clowns parading through radio/tv yelling lies with no proof. Same media hyping them up and spreading the lies. Same idiot citizens eating up the lie and digesting it as fact.

:tu

[Chris]

This is the tweet just deleted by Brittish Foreign office

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:lol

[spursistan]

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This is looking like a false flag operation done by the UK intelligence-- one that is been so amateurishly.. :lol..

[spursistan]

Brittish forign office basically behaving like a spurstalk troll and editing their posts after being caught in a lie :lmao :lol
:lmao..

[hater]

Doesnt toothless brit goverment know that when you delete a tweet doesnt mean its really gone? :lmao :lmao


Stupid fucks :lol

Theresa May :lol Bitch look like Mr Beans landlady :lmao

Porton Johnsson.... PoJo :lmao

[hater]

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:lmao wouldnt that make 2 consecutive Novichok victims recovering a real world miracle? :lol Porton Johnson

[hater]

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:lmao most epic false flag fail in history

[hater]

:lol

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[hater]

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[spurraider21]

Lol

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Gary Aitkenhead, the chief executive of the government’s Defence Science and Technology Laboratory (DSTL), said the poison had been identified as a military-grade novichok nerve agent, which could probably be deployed only by a nation state.
Aitkenhead said the government had reached its conclusion that Russia was responsible for the Salisbury attack by combining the laboratory’s scientific findings with information from other sources.


Aitkenhead said: “We were able to identify it as novichok, to identify it was a military-grade nerve agent. We have not verified the precise source, but we have provided the scientific information to the government, who have then used a number of other sources to piece together the conclusions that they have come to.”

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/apr/03/porton-down-experts-unable-to-verify-precise-source-of-novichok

[Pavlov]

:lol Porton Nixon: chemical weapons expert

[hater]

Problem is poor Gary didnt know that the “other sources” was himself and his office :lol

Look at Porton Johnsons interview and Brittish Foreign office ambassador speech (and deleted tweet)

:lol its on fucking video :lol

[Pavlov]

:lol hater





https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/apr/03/porton-down-experts-unable-to-verify-precise-source-of-novichokActually the TimesUK is reporting the Brits have determined the source lab too.

Paywall tho.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/uk-locates-source-of-salisbury-nerve-agent-nx8p39kqv

[pgardn]

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Russia is still holding out and it's still on them. Just because UK political opponents want to use this as a play toy it means nothing.



Putin: we have no troops in Crimea....lie. Forgotten
Putin: we have no troops in Ukraine... lie. Forgotten
Putin: I have never had anything to do with the death or deligitimizing my political opponents...lie. Forgotten

Putin: we have nothing to do with UK poisoning... Lie ...After the Russians themselves released a warning to all who betray the motherland right after the poisoning occurred. When they never thought the Brits would survive AND Teresa May had not yet said a thing about the Russians doing anything? Sure thing... They Fckn gave their own turncoats a warning... Blantant lie again.

De Bretton-Gordon said: “Porton Down have done the job that they’re required to do. They have identified the nerve agent and said that it’s a novichock. The prime minister has stated that a number of other intelligence sources have led the UK government to believe that the Russian government are responsible for the attack in Salisbury.

“Russia, as a signatory to the chemical weapons convention should be helping investigations including assisting the OPCW to visit Shikhany, [the base of a military research establishment in central Russia], to verify if the novichok came from there. If the Russians are as innocent as they say they are, they should allow them to visit as soon as possible.”

Yet the Russians do nothing. They deny without any intent to prove how it could not be them which would be incredibly easy. Continuous lying from a thug. And he continues...

[Chris]

Even the Left is ripping into this shit :lol Jimmy Dore is tolerable. He's calling this the British equivalent of Weapons of Mass Destruction.


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[hater]

Another glory hole in the story from newsweek

RUSSIAN NOVICHOK DEVELOPER SAYS THERE IS NO ANTIDOTE SO SERGEI SKRIPAL AND HIS DAUGHTER WILL DIE


http://www.newsweek.com/russian-novichok-developer-says-there-no-antidote-so-sergei-skripal-and-his-854500


The Russian scientist who helped develop the nerve agent that the British government says left former spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia in a critical condition in Salisbury has said they will die if they are taken off life support because there is no antidote.

Vladimir Uglev worked at Russia’s state scientific research institute for organic chemistry and technology, or GOSNIIOKHT, where he helped develop "Novichok" in a pilot project between 1972 and 1988 in the town of Volsk in the Saratov region.


:lmao

[Chris]

There's always an antidote.

[Pavlov]

Another glory hole in the story from newsweek

RUSSIAN NOVICHOK DEVELOPER SAYS THERE IS NO ANTIDOTE SO SERGEI SKRIPAL AND HIS DAUGHTER WILL DIE


http://www.newsweek.com/russian-novichok-developer-says-there-no-antidote-so-sergei-skripal-and-his-854500


The Russian scientist who helped develop the nerve agent that the British government says left former spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia in a critical condition in Salisbury has said they will die if they are taken off life support because there is no antidote.

Vladimir Uglev worked at Russia’s state scientific research institute for organic chemistry and technology, or GOSNIIOKHT, where he helped develop "Novichok" in a pilot project between 1972 and 1988 in the town of Volsk in the Saratov region.


:lmao“If Skripal and his daughter received a lethal dose of B-1976, C-1976, or D-1980...."

lol hater always lies

[spursistan]

This is by far the most comical and inept false flag operation done by an intelligence service in recent times..What the fuck the British were thinking :lmao...

[Chris]

This is by far the most comical and inept false flag operation done by an intelligence service in recent times..What the fuck the British were thinking :lmao...

Theresa May and 'Portly' Porton Johnson :lol

[spurraider21]

Theresa May and 'Portly' Porton Johnson :lol
:lmao still can't figure out the difference between Porton Down and Boris Johnson

[Pavlov]

:lmao still can't figure out the difference between Porton Down and Boris JohnsonHe's still going with the "muh phone autocorrected Boris to Porton" conspiracy theory.

[Chris]

:lmao still can't figure out the difference between Porton Down and Boris Johnson

Still hasn't figured out that it's a running joke ITT :lmao lawyer :lmao

[Chris]

He's still going with the "muh phone autocorrected Boris to Porton" conspiracy theory.

Wrong again :lmao

[Pavlov]

Oh yeah, your story is even more stupid.
I edited my original post and accidentally swapped Porton with Boris. I'm trying to post on a shitty iPhone 5c with a shittier battery.:lmao

[hater]

His name now and forver will be Porton Johnson :lmao

PoJo for short

[hater]

Brittish media might actually be worst than US media :wow

BBC is basically ignoring the latst developments and rerunning last weeks Skrippal events :lmao

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[Pavlov]

Brittish media might actually be worst than US media :wow

BBC is basically ignoring the latst developments and rerunning last weeks Skrippal events :lmao

981290082903740416lol two days ago

[pgardn]

This is by far the most comical and inept false flag operation done by an intelligence service in recent times..What the fuck the British were thinking :lmao...

And the French, and the Germans, and the US, and most of the EU...

WTF are you thinking, that's the question.

[pgardn]

The degenerate argument...

Boris Johnson is a goofball.
Teresa May is old and ugly.
Angela Merckel is old and ugly.

The British poisoned exRussian spy and associated law enforcement on UK territory to create an utter mess for absolutely no good reason. Russia PUBLICALLY warned turncoats and those threatening the Motherland BEFORE the UK even had the evidence in to make the call on Russia.

Now apply hater logic. Stinky stuff.

Russia knows that we know. This is a tool to see what kind of reaction they get from the West. It was harsh. The hurt is on them. We get tired of keeping tabs on their spies so we just threw a bunch of them out. More sanctions to come. Oligarchs gonna have their money frozen and can't pay for Westen pleasure. It's tough when you are spoiled and at the top as well. Russia tested the water. Got a stinging reaction. Now that Bolton is in, expect this to get worse. In the long run its not good for either group. Bolton is willing to play a very dangerous game. Hit Russian computer systems that are relied upon and easily hacked or set off by bugs waiting to be set loose.

Again.

Make fun of Boris Johnson and Teresa May and you think it's going away.
Well it's not.

Some Russian spies and Russian Oligarchs will be staying home. And money they have in Western Banks, frozen.
Cooperate or suffer the consequences.

[boutons_deux]

Skripal's pets died in wake of nerve agent attack

Two guinea pigs and a cat belonging to former spy Sergei Skripal died following the nerve agent attack on him and his daughter Yulia, it has been revealed.

More than a month after the Skripals were poisoned in Salisbury, a spokeswoman for the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs disclosed the fate of the ex-Russian double agent's three animals.

Both guinea pigs were found dead at his home in the Wiltshire city, while the cat needed to be put down.

Moscow - which continues to deny responsibility for the attack - raised concerns about the welfare of the pets earlier this week. :lol

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/skripals-pets-died-in-wake-of-nerve-agent-attack/ar-AAvwYMc

[pgardn]

There is a lot more to this than just the chemical agent in which inspector hater keeps harping on. Somebody ratted out. It’s not surprising as Russian agents get a little taste of the West and they give up the goods.

As a secondary note, a whole slew of Russian Oligarchs and government agency big wigs have been sanctioned and are gonna lose some $, property, and travel. The dumbshits must know if they play these thug games they probably should not bank or buy property in Europe and the US. The Trump administration is hitting them where it hurts.

I can imagine Putin retaliating by sanctioning Warren Buffet... Yea, that’s gonna hurt so little... This is what happens to a corrupt country that cannot even trust its own currency and banks. You are weak, and it’s easy to hurt the corrupt rich guys.

[hater]

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:lmao at all these deletions of tweets, transcripts and public records

Youd think US and UK governments are Spirstalk trolls :lmao

[Chris]

Thank God we didn't get Hillary or it would be WW3.

[pgardn]

The Russian corrupt rich are getting blasted on this.
Even Trump understands what they are attempting, which is quite amazing.
You wanna be friends, we can be friends. Just keep your thuggery killing on your own soil.

[Chris]

https://media1.tenor.com/images/b4e1120194a4761d3576048a4ace9f95/tenor.gif?itemid=8129861

[hater]

:lol

[hater]

Another crazy shit is Skrippals pets died. He had 2 cats and 2 guinea pigs.

Russia pressured UK on the status of Skrippals pets they just responded today:
- guinea pigs died of thirst. Apparently after 1 month the investigators that came in and out of Skrippal home eithr did not see them or ignord them
- one cat ran away
- the other cat was so upset that it hqd to be put to sleep. Apparently AT PORTON DOWN
- all animals were INCINERATED AT PORTON DOWN

Very very interesting

[pgardn]

Yeah this is a really difficult case.

The British poison their own people and Russians as a false flag. That’s a real nutty story alright. And they got the rest of Europe and the US to believe it.... It’s almost like these are the same folks that believe 9/11 was a setup as well as us faking going to the moon.

Damn straight we got some major league fruit bats trying to sell the nuttiest most difficult scenarios and stories. Biggly... Right on this very board.

[hater]

Both Skrippals are russian citizens

The British poisoned Russians

[pgardn]

Both Skrippals are russian citizens

The British poisoned Russians

The British also poisoned their police. They did not die.
And the pets... The fckn House was sealed up for a while a number of days trying to figure out what to do. In case there was poison inside.
Do you realize pets need water?

[pgardn]

And why the Fock even worry about the pets if they were poisoned?

How does this somehow prove the British did this.
This is the stupidest attempt to divert... We got some real bozos grabbing at anything but the obvious.

[hater]

Lol just correcting your false statement as both victims are russian citizens

And lmao the cop probably had indigestion not poisoning by a
Military grade lethal nerve agent 8 times more lethal than VX gas :lmao


And the pets. I said its very interesting. I didnt say it proves qnything

[Chris]

Both Skrippals are russian citizens

The British poisoned Russians

pgardn :lol

[Pavlov]

Both Skrippals are russian citizens

The British poisoned Russians


pgardn :lol
Police confirmed that Mr Skripal, who came to the UK in 2010 as part of a "spy swap" after he had been convicted by Russia of passing information to MI6, is a British citizen.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-43394699

:lol hater

:lol Chris

[Chris]

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-43394699

:lol hater

:lol Chris

Sergei Skripal definitely a British name :lol


:lol Pavlov

[pgardn]

Lol just correcting your false statement as both victims are russian citizens

And lmao the cop probably had indigestion not poisoning by a
Military grade lethal nerve agent 8 times more lethal than VX gas :lmao


And the pets. I said its very interesting. I didnt say it proves qnything

Probably had...

Didnt say it proves anything...

You are a Fckn clown.
People have been poisoned by this stuff before and survived the initial contact.
Just quit posting until you read through an entire article from a reputable source that actually attempts to make sense of both sides claims.

You don't want the truth..
You want anything that fits your twisted notions that keep you comfortable.
Keep making fun of Teresa May's looks and Boris Johnson falling down.
It's more entertaining than you trying explain anything.

[hater]

Sergei Skripal definitely a British name :lol


:lol Pavlov

:lmao

[boutons_deux]

Daily, it's amazing how you rightwingnutjobs, so-called Hyper Patriots fur der American Heimat, relentlessly fellate Pootin and exonerate him as some kind of White Male Supremacist hero.

[pgardn]

Sergei Skripal definitely a British name :lol


:lol Pavlov



https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/03/22/life-will-probably-never-statement-salisbury-pc-caught-nerve/

Nick Bailey.
Sound British dumb ass?

[hater]

Now Skrippal himslelf has woken up and is now talking

That makes 3 out of 3 the victims of the super lethal military grade nerve agent 8 times more lethql than VX gas recovering miraculously


Its a miracle! :wow

Halleluyah!!!

:lol

[hater]

Lets remember what Novichok creator said:
- there is no antidote
- the victims will not recover and die
- their organs are permantly damaged (yulia is eating drinking and talking on the phone)

Very interesting

[pgardn]

Now Skrippal himslelf has woken up and is now talking

That makes 3 out of 3 the victims of the super lethal military grade nerve agent 8 times more lethql than VX gas recovering miraculously


Its a miracle! :wow

Halleluyah!!!

:lol

Yeah. He may last another 3 years just like some of the others who have been exposed.
You seriously have read nothing about this and know nothing... 8 x more dangerous than.... automatically means you die? You don’t know how long they were exposed, how much agent was present, but you expect them dead? Why were they found alive idiot?

Halleluyah...
Dumb ass.

WTF are you reading?

Read about Nick Bailey. He got poisoned as well.

[pgardn]

Lets remember what Novichok creator said:
- there is no antidote
- the victims will not recover and die
- their organs are permantly damaged (yulia is eating drinking and talking on the phone)

Very interesting

Read about atropine clown.

The effects can be delayed for years as it permanently damages organs.
WTF are you reading besides nothing?

[pgardn]

Lets remember what Novichok creator said:
- there is no antidote
- the victims will not recover and die
- their organs are permantly damaged (yulia is eating drinking and talking on the phone)

Very interesting


You would not want to be Yulia you dumb Fock. It’s gonna catch up with her eventually Dr. Hater. She’s fairly young so she might even last a decador two. You don’t know as you have no clue as to how this stuff works.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

hater spamming in an effort to semenshield Russia and shit on NATO countries. How novel.

[Pavlov]

Lets remember what Novichok creator said:
- there is no antidote
- the victims will not recover and die
- their organs are permantly damaged (yulia is eating drinking and talking on the phone)

Very interesting
You didn't understand what he said.

[Pavlov]

Sergei Skripal definitely a British name :lol


:lol Pavlov


:lmao
Definitely a British citizen.


Police confirmed that Mr Skripal, who came to the UK in 2010 as part of a "spy swap" after he had been convicted by Russia of passing information to MI6, is a British citizen.http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-43394699

:lol hater

:lol Chris

[hater]

hater spamming in an effort to semenshield Russia and shit on NATO countries. How novel.

Im spamming because this is a hilarious event and its so big and happening so fast :lol

Here are the latest events. Very interesting:

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Now why would UK government deny visa for the victims cousin?? Thats pretty fucked up towards the victim

And why would Brits allow their pets to die and immediately incinerate them????

Very very interesting...

[Chris]

^That says Sergei is a Russian spy and his relatives are from Russia but Pavlov says Sergei is British.

[Pavlov]

^That says Sergei is a Russian spy and his relatives are from Russia but Pavlov says Sergei is British.
I say he's a British citizen.

Because he is a British citizen.

Police confirmed that Mr Skripal, who came to the UK in 2010 as part of a "spy swap" after he had been convicted by Russia of passing information to MI6, is a British citizen.http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-43394699

:lol Chris

[pgardn]

Im spamming because this is a hilarious event and its so big and happening so fast :lol

Here are the latest events. Very interesting:

982302788913790976

982361557488361473

Now why would UK government deny visa for the victims cousin?? Thats pretty fucked up towards the victim

And why would Brits allow their pets to die and immediately incinerate them????

Very very interesting...

Why did the Russians even entertain letting her try to acquire a visa?
Very, very interesting...

See how we play this game...


The pets! The pets! The pets were not given water. They died. The Brits were keeping the area safe and the pets died. Holy shit, it’s just nuts...
Because they smelled you fool.
WTF with the pets. You go along with the nuttiest side issues you are fed by the mixed nuts and Russian propaganda that understands how stupid you are.

[hater]

^That says Sergei is a Russian spy and his relatives are from Russia but Pavlov says Sergei is British.

:lol

To be fair Pavlov/Chumpster called it a false flag in the 2nd post on the subject here

Props pavlov :tu good call :lol

[Chris]

:lol

To be fair Pavlov/Chumpster called it a false flag in the 2nd post on the subject here

Props pavlov :tu good call :lol


Props :lol

[Chris]

Pretty sure it wasn't these guys :lol


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[Pavlov]

:lol

To be fair Pavlov/Chumpster called it a false flag in the 2nd post on the subject here

Props pavlov :tu good call :lol


Props :lolYeah, you guys never explained how it would be to Britain's advantage to poison a foreign agent they turned and made a citizen.

I'm still waiting on that.

[Chris]

Yeah, you guys never explained how it would be to Britain's advantage to poison a foreign agent they turned and made a citizen.

I'm still waiting on that.

It's called a false flag. This isn't rocket science Pavlov.

[Pavlov]

It's called a false flag. This isn't rocket science Pavlov.Yeah, you keep using that phrase but you never never explained how it would be to Britain's advantage to poison a foreign agent they turned and made a citizen.

I'm still waiting on that.

[hater]

It's called a false flag. This isn't rocket science Pavlov.

Poor pavlov forgot about WMDs false flag. Americans have rally really short memory

[hater]

Damn latest

UK will relocate skrippals under new identities in US

They will make them dissapear. They probably will never allow them to tell their story


Also Yulias cousin sent a letter to Theresq May to ask her to please give her a visa to visit her cousin.

[pgardn]

Yeah, you keep using that phrase but you never never explained how it would be to Britain's advantage to poison a foreign agent they turned and made a citizen.

I'm still waiting on that.

False flag...

Like this is so easy and so obvious.
And to make it even better, they poisoned their own police officers. It was on a door handle, this could have gone very, very bad.

False flag is easy.. And for Chris and hater who read next to nothing, it’s the only way to explain anything.

[pgardn]

Poor pavlov forgot about WMDs false flag. Americans have rally really short memory

Totally out of context.

Iraq was not allowing any inspectors in and Saddam claimed he did have WMDs.
How did we get him to allow us to plant the flag so easily?
You have the short memory and you are tying it to another event infinitely more absurd.
But that’s what you do. Lie and distort. And make ludicrous equivalents.

[boutons_deux]

"Iraq was not allowing any inspectors"

dubya WITHDREW the inspectors who were still looking everywhere and finding nothing.

[Pavlov]

Poor pavlov forgot about WMDs false flag. Americans have rally really short memoryYeah, you keep using that phrase but you never never explained how it would be to Britain's advantage to poison a foreign agent they turned and made a citizen.

I'm still waiting on that.

[hater]

Same reason as WMDs false flag

- distraction from internal problems
- punish foreign adversaries
- increased military spending
- increased police state laws

:rolleyes already posted days ago

You really have short term memory man. Seek some help

Additionally:
- disruptNordstream 2 project for russia which UK elite despises
- disrupt brexit which UK elite does not want

[Chris]

:rolleyes already posted days ago

You really have short term memory man. Seek some help

Additionally:
- disruptNordstream 2 project for russia which UK elite despises
- disrupt brexit which UK elite does not want

This is typical Pavlov when he doesn't like the answer to a question. He will just keep on repeating himself while adding qualifiers to change the outcome. SAD!

[Pavlov]

:rolleyes already posted days ago

You really have short term memory man. Seek some help

Additionally:
- disruptNordstream 2 project for russia which UK elite despises
- disrupt brexit which UK elite does not wantYeah, none of that is worth trashing your entire history of turning foreign agents.

Sorry, it doesn't make any sense.

[Pavlov]

Hey, foreign agents! Come on over to our side and we'll kill you with a nerve agent because it's just what we do!

All the time!

[hater]

This is typical Pavlov when he doesn't like the answer to a question. He will just keep on repeating himself while adding qualifiers to change the outcome. SAD!

:lmao poor guy

[koriwhat]

i say let the UK go after Russia alone and let Russia destroy that shit monarch and its country.

[koriwhat]

"Iraq was not allowing any inspectors"

dubya WITHDREW the inspectors who were still looking everywhere and finding nothing.




and W is also besties with the clintons and obamas... bernie most likely too. lmao the company you keep.

[Pavlov]

i say let the UK go after Russia alone and let Russia destroy that shit monarch and its country.Why do you like Russia so much?

[koriwhat]

Why do you like Russia so much?

i don't and never even bothered thinking about russia at all until russia became the buzzword of 2016.

i also don't give a fuck about theresa may and her bs ploy to start another war on lies and deceit. if that's what she's doing then she deserves the red storm and all it has to offer.

[Pavlov]

i don't and never even bothered thinking about russia at all until russia became the buzzword of 2016.

i also don't give a fuck about theresa may and her bs ploy to start another war on lies and deceit. if that's what she's doing then she deserves the red storm and all it has to offer.What is your evidence that's what she is doing?

[koriwhat]

What is your evidence that's what she is doing?

people are alive from such a nerve agent... lmao need more evidence? shit's too funny. did you ask ol' Bushy boy what evidence he had on Iraq or did you just go with the flow like you're doing with May?

[Pavlov]

people are alive from such a nerve agent... lmao need more evidence? shit's too funny.The powder form of the nerve agent does not act the same way as the gas. You must've missed that in your extensive research of this topic.

lmao


did you ask ol' Bushy boy what evidence he had on Iraq or did you just go with the flow like you're doing with May?My opposition to the Iraq War is well documented in this forum.

lmao

[koriwhat]

The powder form of the nerve agent does not act the same way as the gas. You must've missed that in your extensive research of this topic.

lmao

My opposition to the Iraq War is well documented in this forum.

lmao

first, you're no lab assistant nor expert so your research is bs. i go to my local baskin robbins for medical advice from their 16 yr old employee. ha!

second, ol' Bushy is besties with your golden gods so why the hate and no support for an endless war(s)?

[Pavlov]

first, you're no lab assistant nor expert so your research is bs. i go to my local baskin robbins for medical advice from their 16 yr old employee. ha!You didn't know about the powder form compared to the gas form. Nothing you say will change that.


second, ol' Bushy is besties with your golden gods so why the hate and no support for an endless war(s)?That question made no sense whatsoever.

My opposition to the Iraq War is well known and never changed. Nothing you say will change that.

[koriwhat]

You didn't know about the powder form compared to the gas form. Nothing you say will change that.

you must think i am just researching everything there is to research in this world just like you think i love russia. it's comical man. idgaf really about either the nerve agent nor russia but i also don't care for false flags either.

either way, you nor i reading some bs on the internet will make us experts on said nerve agent.

as for iraq... you indirectly support that war do to the allegiance you have made even if you say otherwise. friends of a feather flock together. sorry but bush sucks the same devil dick as the rest of them golden gods of yours.

[Pavlov]

you must think i am just researching everything there is to research in this world just like you think i love russia. it's comical man. idgaf really about either the nerve agent nor russia but i also don't care for false flags either.No, I think you keep yourself as ignorant as humanly possible on every subject brought up here. It's safer for you.


either way, you nor i reading some bs on the internet will make us experts on said nerve agent.You read nothing about it. I read more than nothing about it. I know more than you do.


as for iraq... you indirectly support that warNope. Sorry, you can't change my opposition to that war. It's a matter of record.

[koriwhat]

No, I think you keep yourself as ignorant as humanly possible on every subject brought up here. It's safer for you.

You read nothing about it. I read more than nothing about it. I know more than you do.

Nope. Sorry, you can't change my opposition to that war. It's a matter of record.

ignorance is bliss pav...

you might've read up on the subject of said nerve agent but what actual R&D have you done in the lab? still don't buy your "intelligence" on the agent in question.

yep, indirectly an iraq war supporter you are pav.

[Pavlov]

ignorance is bliss pav...

you might've read up on the subject of said nerve agent but what actual R&D have you done in the lab? still don't buy your "intelligence" on the agent in question.You read nothing. I read more than nothing. I know more than you. That's all.


yep, indirectly an iraq war supporter you are pav.Nope. Directly opposed it. You can't do an anything about it.

[koriwhat]

You read nothing. I read more than nothing. I know more than you. That's all.

Nope. Directly opposed it. You can't do an anything about it.

i read the reports from MSM bs news. numerous articles about the russian spy and his daughter as well as their dead pets who died from starvation and being put down. however i don't care enough to read anymore into it because i think it's all bs to begin with.

so you know more than i do because you read more. still, you're no expert. though you read this or that i still wouldn't take your word on the subject. put years into hands on lab research and i'd trust your word. until then pav...

you can oppose whatever war you'd like verbally and in written form but when the side you support locks arms with ol' bushy boy then you indirectly support said war. i never said my pattern of thinking is right but that's what i believe.

[Pavlov]

i read the reports from MSM bs news. numerous articles about the russian spy and his daughter as well as their dead pets who died from starvation and being put down. however i don't care enough to read anymore into it because i think it's all bs to begin with.Sure you did. :lol


so you know more than i do because you read more. still, you're no expert. though you read this or that i still wouldn't take your word on the subject. put years into hands on lab research and i'd trust your word. until then pav...You read nothing. I read more than nothing.


you can oppose whatever war you'd like verbally and in written form but when the side you support locks arms with ol' bushy boy then you indirectly support said war. i never said my pattern of thinking is right but that's what i believe.Nope. I directly opposed the Iraq War. Nothing you say or believe can ever change that.

[hater]

people are alive from such a nerve agent... lmao need more evidence?

:lmao damn true

No wonder Teresa May is in hiding

[koriwhat]

Sure you did. :lol

i sure did but that's right, only take your word on everything when you say what you say.

either way, you know as much as i do and that's absolutely nothing. difference is my ego hasn't exploded into a make believe world like yours has. paging Dr. Pav, Dr. Pav?

[hater]

:lmao did pavlov just say the powder novichok is not as bad as gas form, therfore it makes sense they all survived???

:lmao

Post your sauces niga :lmao that sounds retarded

[koriwhat]

:lmao did pavlov just say the powder novichok is not as bad as gas form, therfore it makes sense they all survived???

:lmao

Post your sauces niga :lmao that sounds retarded

don't question Dr. Pav when he's had a tenure of R&D in the lab working on all forms of Novichok.

[Pavlov]

:lmao did pavlov just say the powder novichok is not as bad as gas form, therfore it makes sense they all survived???

:lmao

Post your sauces niga :lmao that sounds retarded
Nerve agents are bioavailable from the gut - that is, they can absorb into the body after being eaten. That route of delivery isn’t well studied, but is consistent with the slightly slower onset of symptoms in Sergei and Julia Skripal.

In comparison, nerve agents administered via aerosol or spray are effective very quickly—Kim Jong-Nam died shortly after facial exposure to nerve agent VX in a Malaysian airport.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-we-know-about-novichok-the-newby-nerve-agent-linked-to-russia/

That article also cites a 1992 newspaper story saying a person exposed to the gas form survived.


He staggered out of the room, his vision seared by brilliant colors and hallucinations. He collapsed, and the KGB took him to a hospital.

By the time he arrived his breathing was labored. In another hour, his heart would have stopped. His entire nervous system was gradually ceasing to function.

The physicist was lucky. The hospital he was taken to, the Sklifosovsky Institute, includes the nation’s top center for poison treatment.

There, Dr. Yevgeny Vedernikov saved his life.

But the scientist was at the edge of death, unaware of his surroundings, for 10 days. He couldn’t walk for six months. He was dogged by depression and an inability to concentrate. He found it difficult even to read. To this day his arms are still weak, and he has never been able to return to work.

Although he survived, the gas left him with permanent disabilities.

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1992-10-18/news/1992292006_1_chemical-weapons-research-nerve-gases/2

You'll have to now work time travel into your conspiracy theory. I look forward to it.

[Pavlov]

don't question Dr. Pav when he's had a tenure of R&D in the lab working on all forms of Novichok.Feel free to post your revised time travel conspiracy theory as well.

[koriwhat]

Feel free to post your revised time travel conspiracy theory as well.

that was a horrible experience for that dude no doubt... as for time travel, i'm all ears!

[pgardn]

Russian Rouble 60 to the dollar. Stocks drop 11%

Welcome to sanctions.

[boutons_deux]

Russian Rouble 60 to the dollar. Stocks drop 11%

Welcome to sanctions.

stopping Russians from doing business or travelling isn't nearly as bad as the financial sanctions by Obama, and the nasty stuff Congress passed and that Trash still refuses to implement to please his buddy Vlad.

[spursistan]

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Yeah, "deadliest" my ass :lmao.

[pgardn]

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Yeah, "deadliest" my ass :lmao.

She is not the first or the last to survive dumbass. That’s why these types of methods are difficult. They are basically scare tactics aimed at Russian turncoats. They want this shit publicized. Idiots like you won’t get it but turncoat spies in Western countries will. The Russians sent out a warning well before the UK blamed anyone for the attack. The UK had no idea what had happened but Russia sends out a warning? Yeah, that makes sense.

[hater]

:lmao Yulia has been discharged from the hospital

Where are the BBC interviews of her or at least her police statements?? :lmao

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[hater]

Ma niga Pavlov called this from the getgo :lmao

[Pavlov]

lol rando anonymous twitter accounts

[dabom]

Not surprised to see russian bots at it again. :lol

[RandomGuy]

The group, the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, released a report saying that its laboratory analysis of “environmental and biomedical samples” that its experts had collected “confirm the findings of the U.K. relating to the identity of the toxic chemical.”

The team “notes that the toxic chemical was of high purity,” it added, lending support to Britain’s claim that the nerve agent was manufactured with a degree of expertise and sophistication strongly indicating that a national government was responsible. But the agency did not try to say where the chemical was made, or by whom.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/12/world/europe/yulia-skripal-russia.html

[RandomGuy]

LOL "crumbling"


LONDON — The nerve agent attack on two people in England “demonstrates how reckless Russia is prepared to be, how little the Kremlin cares for the international rules-based order,” one of Britain’s intelligence chiefs said on Thursday, in an unusually public and scathing commentary on a foreign power.

In his first speech after a year as director of the Government Communications Headquarters, the British equivalent of the National Security Agency, Jeremy Fleming said the threat from Russia had “never gone away,” but had become impossible to ignore after the poisoning of a former Russian spy and his daughter, cyberattacks on Ukranian infrastructure and other actions.

[pgardn]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/apr/12/novichok-used-in-spy-poisoning-chemical-weapons-watchdog-confirms-salisbury

numerous independent groups have confirmed the evidence clearly points to Russia and a higher up order. Stuff was done with way too pure. Russia wanted our leaders to know they did it and at the same time fool the lobotomized public (hater strain of people). It worked. But they did not expect the response. Put that big toe in to test the water and it got frozen solid.

[pgardn]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/apr/13/russia-tested-nerve-agent-on-door-handles-before-skripal-attack-uk-dossier-claims

As more info becomes declassified Russia stammers and continues to refer to Iraq.
But... but... but... you guys were wrong before...

[RandomGuy]

:lmao did pavlov just say the powder novichok is not as bad as gas form, therfore it makes sense they all survived???

:lmao

Post your sauces niga :lmao that sounds retarded

Nerve agents act slower, like any poison, if ingested. It isn't difficult science/medicine.

[Pavlov]

Nerve agents act slower, like any poison, if ingested. It isn't difficult science/medicine.:lol I posted a source and he ran away from that angle.

[RandomGuy]

983600454515994624

Yeah, "deadliest" my ass :lmao.

smh

This stuff is deadly as all shit, but prompt critical care targeting the chemical managed to save them.

More of a testimony to the doctors that treated them, than to the danger of the agent.

[RandomGuy]

:lol I posted a source and he ran away from that angle.

"throw shit against the wall to see what sticks"

Never seen that tactic anywhere before. Other than the dozens of 9-11 threads, moon landing fakery threads, chemtrail threads, and hyperinflation arriving threads of course.

[hater]

Intersting. Swiss lab that analyzed samples is avoiding denying or confirming they found BZ non lethal substance in the samples

Russia has sent letter to OWCP asking why their report did not include the BZ finding

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[hater]

985614726204977152

[hater]

985621596768559104

[Pavlov]

So this is the new conspiracy theory? :lol

I'll wait for the next one. This one seems DOA.

[boutons_deux]

Russian Reporter Maxim Borodin Dies After Mysterious Balcony Fall

A journalist who had been investigating (https://newdaynews.ru/seek/?text=%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BA%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%BC+%D0%B1% D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%BD+%D0%B0%D1%81%D 0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82+%D1%81%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%B8%D1 %8F&ni=0&sel=0&vid=0) the deaths of alleged Russian mercenaries in Syria died in a hospital on Sunday after falling from his balcony in the Russian city of Yekaterinburg.

Maxim Borodin, a 32-year-old reporter for the Yekaterinburg-based Ria Novy Den news agency, was known for his coverage of high-profile corruption and criminal cases. He fell from his fifth-floor balcony on Thursday,

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/maxim-borodin-russia-reporter-death-fall-balcony_us_5ad4f819e4b0edca2cbcc536?utm_medium=ema il&utm_campaign=__TheMorningEmail__041718&utm_content=__TheMorningEmail__041718+CID_bb760b4f 3c9383c3c9836acb062f6f8a&utm_source=Email%20marketing%20software&utm_term=HuffPost&ncid=newsltushpmgnews__TheMorningEmail__041718

[boutons_deux]

Under Russian Terror, All Exiles Are Fearful and All Deaths Are Suspicious

The practice of committing—or in this case, attempting—blatant murder and following it with a series of equally blatant denials is nearly as old as Soviet state terror.

During the Great Terror of 1937–38, the secret police killed thousands of people every day, but hid this fact from the victims’ families.

Soviet terror abroad worked similarly, if more selectively.

The Soviets killed defectors, such as Georgy Agabekov, a rogue secret-police officer who was assassinated in Paris, in 1938, eight years after he defected to the West.

This was legal under a 1927 Soviet law that made defection punishable by execution.

But they also killed suspected traitors, such as the American Communist Juliet Stuart Poyntz, who disappeared in New York City, in 1937.

And, most famously, they killed Leon Trotsky, the out-of-favor revolutionary who was banished from the Soviet Union, in 1929, and killed in Mexico City, in 1940.

To Russians living—and dying—abroad, especially in the United Kingdom, any number of other deaths appear suspicious.

A BuzzFeed report (https://www.buzzfeed.com/heidiblake/from-russia-with-blood-14-suspected-hits-on-british-soil) last year identified fourteen deaths that might have been hits.

After the Skripal poisoning, another high-profile Russian from Berezovsky’s circle was found dead, in London, and his death was quickly ruled a homicide (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/mar/21/glushkov-family-devastated-after-russians-in-london).

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/under-russian-terror-all-exiles-are-fearful-and-all-deaths-are-suspicious

[hater]

BZ:
-disorienting, hallucinogenic
- is active for 3 days
- triggers in up to 10 hours
- doesnt kill you

Novichok:
- 10 times more lethal than vx gas
- 99% kill ratio
- triggers instantly


Yeah. Im gonna go ahead with BZ on this one folks

[Pavlov]

BZ:
-disorienting, hallucinogenic
- is active for 3 days
- triggers in up to 10 hours
- doesnt kill you

Novichok:
- 10 times more lethal than vx gas
- 99% kill ratio
- triggers instantly


Yeah. Im gonna go ahead with BZ on this one folksAnd where are you getting your stats from?

Twitter?

[hater]

Cdc website homes :lol

Lets review score on skrippal case:
- disoriented and confused: winner BZ
- started feeling effects hourst after contact: winner BZ
- effects lasted for 3,4 days: winner BZ
- did not die: winner BZ

Overall winner: BZ

Crazy. I didnt know this was the same toxin they used on vietnam soldiers. The movie Jacobs Ladder is based on it :wow

[Chris]

And where are you getting your stats from?

Twitter?

Why do you think it was Novichok?

[Pavlov]

Cdc website homes :lollink?

[Pavlov]

Why do you think it was Novichok?It wasn't anonymous twitter.

[hater]

Cdc.gov moron

[Pavlov]

Cdc.gov moronNo, the page you got the Novichok stats from.

Thanks.

[boutons_deux]

dosage matters

Can anybody say the lady is now or will ever be 100% healthy?

Same with some chemo, even if you survive, you've been systematically poisoned, and damaged.

[Chris]

It wasn't anonymous twitter.

Dodge #1

Why do you think it was Novichok gas racist Pavlov?

[Pavlov]

Dodge #1

Why do you think it was Novichok gas racist Pavlov?Everything that isn't pro-Russian propaganda points to it tbh.

No reason for anyone else to do it. Every conspiracy theory I have seen is incredibly stupid, but feel free to state your conspiracy theory in full, white Chris.

[hater]

Dodge #1

Why do you think it was Novichok gas racist Pavlov?

Because Nikki Hayley told him :lmao

To be fair pavlov called this shit from day one and said it was a false flag :lol

[Pavlov]

Because Nikki Hayley told him :lmao

To be fair pavlov called this shit from day one and said it was a false flag :lolStill waiting for that CDC page with the Novichok stats you said definitely exists.

[Chris]

Because Nikki Hayley told him :lmao

To be fair pavlov called this shit from day one and said it was a false flag :lol

He's still full of Schiff.


Everything that isn't pro-Russian propaganda points to it tbh.

No reason for anyone else to do it. Every conspiracy theory I have seen is incredibly stupid, but feel free to state your conspiracy theory in full, white Chris.

I don't have a conspiracy racist Pavlov, but I'm inclined to believe it was BZ based on the evidence presented so far.

[spurraider21]

He's still full of Schiff.



I don't have a conspiracy racist Pavlov, but I'm inclined to believe it was BZ based on the evidence presented so far.


that would be a conspiracy theory by definition

[Chris]

that would be a conspiracy theory by definition

con·spir·a·cy the·o·ry
noun
a belief that some covert but influential organization is responsible for a circumstance or event.


What covert influential organization did I cite when I said I believed the gas was BZ?

[spurraider21]

con·spir·a·cy the·o·ry
noun
a belief that some covert but influential organization is responsible for a circumstance or event.


What covert influential organization did I cite when I said I believed the gas was BZ?
The official explanation is that Russians were responsible for the poisoning.

The conspiracy theory is that some other actor, currently unknown to the public (due to government misinformation) is actually responsible

the idea that many important political events or economic and social trends are the products of secret plots that are largely unknown to the general public.

[Chris]

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[spurraider21]

73tGe3JE5IU
:lol jeopardy timer after i already responded

[Pavlov]

He's still full of Schiff.



I don't have a conspiracy racist Pavlov, but I'm inclined to believe it was BZ based on the evidence presented so far.That is a conspiracy theory, white Chris.

Why would your conspiracy happen, white Chris?

[Pavlov]

:lol jeopardy timer after i already responded:lmao

[spurraider21]

Chris do you think the general public has been given accurate information regarding this poisoning by government officials?

If not, do you think the government officials have intentionally deceived the public?

[Chris]

The official explanation is that Russians were responsible for the poisoning.

The conspiracy theory is that some other actor, currently unknown to the public (due to government misinformation) is actually responsible

the idea that many important political events or economic and social trends are the products of secret plots that are largely unknown to the general public.

Never said any of those things.


What covert influential organization did I cite when I said I believed the gas was BZ?

[spurraider21]

Never said any of those things.
no? so you do think the russians were responsible for the poisoning? correct me if i'm wrong.


What covert influential organization did I cite when I said I believed the gas was BZ?
if they're covert you wouldn't be able to identify them. that's what makes it covert :lol

but you think there's an actor (currently not known to the general public) that is responsible for the poisoning.

[Chris]

Chris do you think the general public has been given accurate information regarding this poisoning by government officials?

If not, do you think the government officials have intentionally deceived the public?

I just said I thought it was BZ.

Do you think the general public has been given accurate information regarding this poisoning by government officials?

If not, do you think the government officials have intentionally deceived the public?

[Chris]

no?

Nope.


but you think there's an actor (currently not known to the general public) that is responsible for the poisoning.

Never said such.


What covert influential organization did I cite when I said I believed the gas was BZ?

[spurraider21]

I just said I thought it was BZ.
Dodge.

Do you think the Russians are responsible for the poisoning?


Do you think the general public has been given accurate information regarding this poisoning by government officials?

If not, do you think the government officials have intentionally deceived the public?
yes, i think they've given accurate information

Nope.

Never said such.
wow look, a dodge.

Are the Russians responsible for the poisoning?


What covert influential organization did I cite when I said I believed the gas was BZ?
if they're covert you wouldn't be able to identify them. that's what makes them covert.

besides, i didnt invoke the whole covert organization thing. this is the definition i cited

the idea that many important political events or economic and social trends are the products of secret plots that are largely unknown to the general public.

[spurraider21]

i mean if your your conspiracy ends at "it was still the russians, but they used BZ instead of Novichok" then thats a pretty weird detail to be super upset about

[Chris]

i mean if your your conspiracy ends at "it was still the russians, but they used BZ instead of Novichok" then thats a pretty weird detail to be super upset about

Just saying it looked like BZ gas based on the symptoms. You and Pavlov went Hogg wild on me.

[spurraider21]

Just saying it looked like BZ gas based on the symptoms. You and Pavlov went Hogg wild on me.
Dodge #2

Do you think the Russians are responsible for the poisoning?

[spurraider21]

It's called a false flag. This isn't rocket science Pavlov.
:lmao "Just saying it looked like BZ gas"

Chris, do you think the Russians are responsible for the poisoning? You keep dodging the question now, but clearly you think its a false flag. Do you think the Russians committed a false flag to set up the Russians? Please help me make sense of this.

[Chris]

:lmao "Just saying it looked like BZ gas"

Chris, do you think the Russians are responsible for the poisoning? You keep dodging the question now, but clearly you think its a false flag. Do you think the Russians committed a false flag to set up the Russians? Please help me make sense of this.

If you think hater and I were alluding to Russia then you are clearly lost. :lol

[spurraider21]

If you think hater and I were alluding to Russia then you are clearly lost. :lol
oh, i dont think you were. that's why its funny that today you've been dodging me every time i've asked you if russia was responsible for the poisoning.

your response has been to play dumb and act like you have no opinion on that, and only have an opinion on the specific poison used... but its clear you do have an opinion as to who was responsible.

so please, clarify who you think is responsible.

[Chris]

oh, i dont think you were. that's why its funny that today you've been dodging me every time i've asked you if russia was responsible for the poisoning.

your response has been to play dumb and act like you have no opinion on that, and only have an opinion on the specific poison used... but its clear you do have an opinion as to who was responsible.

so please, clarify who you think is responsible.


You'll be the first to know when I'm done with researching it properly. Still on the iPhone, you will have to be patient.

[spurraider21]

You'll be the first to know when I'm done with researching it properly. Still on the iPhone, you will have to be patient.
1) the general public has been told by all official sources that it is russia

2) you believe it is a false flag, and therefore you don't believe that it is russia

3) you believe the general public has been misled by those official government sources

4) you therefore believe that this event is the product of a plot not currently known to the general public

tell me which of those 4 is wrong, and how it is wrong

[hater]

1) the general public has been told by all official sources that it is russia

The same people that said Iraq had WMDs

[hater]

1) the general public has been told by all official sources that it is russia

The same people that said Iraq had WMDs

[hater]

Echo

[spurraider21]

Echo
more like crickets. chris ran away :lol

he just doesn't like that his theory is a conspiracy theory

[Chris]

You'll be the first to know when I'm done with researching it properly. Still on the iPhone, you will have to be patient.

[hater]

Not sure I get ur beef nigas

This is a clear cut false flag operation and a bad one at hand

[Chris]

Not sure I get ur beef nigas

This is a clear cut false flag operation and a bad one at hand

I'm leaning towards a Theresa/Porton bungle for right now.

[pgardn]

Syria and Russia are still citing security concerns and have not let the chemical teams into Douma. The injured and dead in the area could not be hidden though. Clearly Chlorine and possibly a nerve agent.

Srub a dub...

The UK situation is a slam dunk done.

[hater]

I'm leaning towards a Theresa/Porton bungle for right now.

Yup thats why I said its a bad one. An epic fail one

They bungled a false flag operation by being confident enough that mainstream media and politicians would make their case a slam dunk

They forgot theres tons of people that dont buy what mainstream media is selling and think on their own.

[spurraider21]

1) the general public has been told by all official sources that it is russia

2) you believe it is a false flag, and therefore you don't believe that it is russia

3) you believe the general public has been misled by those official government sources

4) you therefore believe that this event is the product of a plot not currently known to the general public

tell me which of those 4 is wrong, and how it is wrong


You'll be the first to know when I'm done with researching it properly. Still on the iPhone, you will have to be patient.
:rollin which of those 4 points require any more research? give a number

you've already said you believe its a false flag.

you just dont like that your theory is by definition a conspsiracy theory and are stalling/dodging

[spurraider21]

1) the general public has been told by all official sources that it is russia

2) you believe it is a false flag, and therefore you don't believe that it is russia

3) you believe the general public has been misled by those official government sources

4) you therefore believe that this event is the product of a plot not currently known to the general public

tell me which of those 4 is wrong, and how it is wrong


You'll be the first to know when I'm done with researching it properly. Still on the iPhone, you will have to be patient.

[FlAVaK]

So, actually there was no BZ at Salisbury.

What was found by the Swiss Lab was just put there to test the testers...

[Chris]

1) the general public has been told by all official sources that it is russia

Yep.

2) you believe it is a false flag, and therefore you don't believe that it is russia

Yep.

3) you believe the general public has been misled by those official government sources

Never said such.

4) you therefore believe that this event is the product of a plot not currently known to the general public

Never said such.

tell me which of those 4 is wrong, and how it is wrong

Number 3 and 4 are wrong because I didn't say those things.

[Chris]

So, actually there was no BZ at Salisbury.

What was found by the Swiss Lab was just put there to test the testers...

Gotta keep those testers at the top of their game :lol

[hater]

Gotta keep those testers at the top of their game :lol

:lol

Especially when ww3 is at stake

[spurraider21]

Chris (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1656) i know you didn't "say" those things... which is why i said "you believe" and not "you said"

tell me, though... since you confirmed #1 and #2, if official sources have said russia did it (#1), but russia did not actually do it (#2), how can that be characterized as anything but misleading the public (#3)?

and if the general public has been told that it is russia (#1), but it is not actually russia (#2), then how could it be false that this event is the product of a plot not currently known to the general public (#4)?

[spurraider21]

Chris (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1656) i know you didn't "say" those things... which is why i said "you believe" and not "you said"

tell me, though... since you confirmed #1 and #2, if official sources have said russia did it (#1), but russia did not actually do it (#2), how can that be characterized as anything but misleading the public (#3)?

and if the general public has been told that it is russia (#1), but it is not actually russia (#2), then how could it be false that this event is the product of a plot not currently known to the general public (#4)? Chris

[spurraider21]

https://i.imgur.com/Jw6r9Jv.gif

[Chris]

Chris (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1656) i know you didn't "say" those things... which is why i said "you believe" and not "you said"

tell me, though... since you confirmed #1 and #2, if official sources have said russia did it (#1), but russia did not actually do it (#2), how can that be characterized as anything but misleading the public (#3)?

and if the general public has been told that it is russia (#1), but it is not actually russia (#2), then how could it be false that this event is the product of a plot not currently known to the general public (#4)?

Tell me who are the official sources?

(stealing my memes...SAD!)

[spurraider21]

Tell me who are the official sources?

(stealing my memes...SAD!)
the US and UK governments, for starters. lets go with Theresa May, Boris Johnson, and Donald Trump who have all said that the Russian are responsible.

[Chris]

Going by the statements of General Mattis who has intel neither of us are privy to, I would say it was the Assad regime.

lmk if you need a link for that

[spurraider21]

Going by the statements of General Mattis who has intel neither of us are privy to, I would say it was the Assad regime.

lmk if you need a link for that
you think the assad regime poisoned the two people in the UK?

yes i would love a link for that

[Chris]

Just saying it looked like BZ gas based on the symptoms. You and Pavlov went Hogg wild on me.

I thought the conversation evolved beyond this. Are you still stuck on this?

[spurraider21]

I thought the conversation evolved beyond this. Are you still stuck on this?
:lmao...

ok i guess we have to go back a few posts to get all caught up.

first, i asked this.


1) the general public has been told by all official sources that it is russia

2) you believe it is a false flag, and therefore you don't believe that it is russia

3) you believe the general public has been misled by those official government sources

4) you therefore believe that this event is the product of a plot not currently known to the general public

tell me which of those 4 is wrong, and how it is wrong
you said that #1 and #2 are correct. as to #3 and #4, you said "I never said that."

then...


Chris (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1656) i know you didn't "say" those things... which is why i said "you believe" and not "you said"

tell me, though... since you confirmed #1 and #2, if official sources have said russia did it (#1), but russia did not actually do it (#2), how can that be characterized as anything but misleading the public (#3)?

and if the general public has been told that it is russia (#1), but it is not actually russia (#2), then how could it be false that this event is the product of a plot not currently known to the general public (#4)?

you on the same page, now?

[Chris]

I'm leaning towards a Theresa/Porton bungle for right now.

Did you miss this?

[spurraider21]

Did you miss this?
no. so who do you think is actually behind the poisoning?

[Chris]

no. so who do you think is actually behind the poisoning?

Do you know who Theresa May is?

[Pavlov]

Do you know who Theresa May is?How did they "bungle" the poisoning according to you?

[Chris]

How did they "bungle" the poisoning according to you?

How would I know that?

[Pavlov]

How would I know that?You're the one who said it was their bungle. You came to this conclusion somehow.

[Chris]

You're the one who said it was their bungle. You came to this conclusion somehow.

It's called a theory. Even qualified it with "leaning."

lol conclusion

[Pavlov]

It's called a theory. Even qualified it with "leaning."

lol conclusionIt's your theory; how did bungling become your hypothesis?

[Chris]

It's your theory; how did bungling become your hypothesis?

Motive to start a war with Russia. Theresa May is acting on behalf of the EU and Merkel. Russia is the last great frontier for the Globalist bankers to conquer.

[Pavlov]

Motive to start a war with Russia. Theresa May is acting on behalf of the EU and Merkel. Russia is the last great frontier for the Globalist bankers to conquer.:lol if they wanted to start a war they could've done it years ago over Ukraine.

Remember Ukraine?

[spurraider21]

Do you know who Theresa May is?
ah i see. i thought you meant Theresa May bungled the investigation and just ended up being wrong about it being Russian.

but now i see you are saying Theresa May is in some capacity behind the poisoning

Ok good, we're making progress, almost done here...

If Theresa May is in some way responsible for the poisoning, wouldn't it be accurate to say that she has misled the public?

[Chris]

If Theresa May is in some way responsible for the poisoning, wouldn't it be accurate to say that she has misled the public?

Yes, that would be accurate.