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hater
04-13-2018, 10:18 PM
Mmmm I posted the below statement 3 momths ago Einstein:

Turkey will gain ground on Kurds.

Pace negotiations will be sabotaged by US/Saudi/Israel every time so Assad will resort to keep gaining ground on terrorist areas.

US will keep illegal ocupation and supporting and training terrorists who will keep being a pest to Assad.

A deal will be reached by Turkey/US to avoid direct confrontation will probably mean US betraying the Kurds to allow Turkish terrorist factions in Syria.

Sadly not much more will improve. Will be a stalemate until Iran/Saudi/US/israel decide to start WW3. This will most likely start by Saudi/Israel/US bombing of Iran//Syria and Lebanon. Probably aftr a false flag attack is staged by them

monosylab1k
04-13-2018, 10:20 PM
“momths” :lol

Quick, Einstein, you still got time to fix it before the edit tag.

pgardn
04-13-2018, 10:21 PM
You called it.

hater


:tu thanks niga

Im afraid its not all over yet

Shit will get real in Lebanon, Ukraine and somehow Russia will hit UK in some way

Is this just the petting stage or are you guys gonna ram the tongues down each other’s throat?

Avante
04-13-2018, 10:26 PM
The world not allowing the Middle East to do what they have always done, kill. Loving it. If Russia gets in the way wipe um out....also.

hater
04-13-2018, 10:32 PM
Interesting. These strikes might unite Syrians even more behing Asad

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hater
04-13-2018, 10:35 PM
:lmao holee sheet

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Spurtacular
04-13-2018, 10:35 PM
Interesting. These strikes might unite Syrians even more behing Asad

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What do you think Trump's motivation is for getting into this sh**?

hater
04-13-2018, 10:38 PM
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Chris
04-13-2018, 10:40 PM
:lmao holee sheet

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:lol I think I can hear Millie in the background. Hope Alex doesn't turn into Ezra Lavant.

hater
04-13-2018, 10:48 PM
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Good news if true

hater
04-13-2018, 10:53 PM
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:lmao nigas celebrating like its 1999

If this is true Putin must be breaking out his good champagne :lol

ElNono
04-13-2018, 10:57 PM
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:lmao nigas celebrating like its 1999

If this is true Putin must be breaking out his good champagne :lol

Watch out re-tweeting Russians, tbh... you could end up in Mueller's list... :lol

hater
04-13-2018, 11:05 PM
Watch out re-tweeting Russians, tbh... you could end up in Mueller's list... :lol

Thats why I only do it here

This wasteland of a site I doubt anyone gives a shit :lol

hater
04-13-2018, 11:10 PM
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:lmao

hater
04-13-2018, 11:10 PM
Another rumor is that only 30 missiles were used and 13 shot down by Syrian gunners

djohn2oo8
04-13-2018, 11:22 PM
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Yeah..Because Trump fucking tweeted out the strategy.

ElNono
04-13-2018, 11:26 PM
Is it just me or the General here sounds like RC Bufford? :lmao

https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/politics/100000005850048/pentagon-holds-briefing-after-trump-announcement.html

Winehole23
04-13-2018, 11:26 PM
Somehow, the Syrians knew which targets to abandon.

Like the last US strike, it's almost as if we told them where and when.

baseline bum
04-13-2018, 11:28 PM
Bombing Syria for their use of chemical weapons good now

Spurminator
04-13-2018, 11:29 PM
Toothless political theater.

baseline bum
04-13-2018, 11:31 PM
Is it just me or the General here sounds like RC Bufford? :lmao

https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/politics/100000005850048/pentagon-holds-briefing-after-trump-announcement.html

Why? Is he drunk?

djohn2oo8
04-13-2018, 11:39 PM
Somehow, the Syrians knew which targets to abandon.

Like the last US strike, it's almost as if we told them where and when.

Its exactly like that.

djohn2oo8
04-13-2018, 11:39 PM
Toothless political theater.

Yup.

Chris
04-13-2018, 11:46 PM
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Chris
04-13-2018, 11:55 PM
Assad said he got rid of the gas. They found out he still had it. Simple.

clambake
04-14-2018, 12:10 AM
Trump just pulled off the slightly less greatest military victory since Granada.

ElNono
04-14-2018, 12:44 AM
Why? Is he drunk?

lol no, he just sounds like him

Reck
04-14-2018, 01:49 AM
Interesting. These strikes might unite Syrians even more behing Asad

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Only 2 likes? Yeah Assad's a real charmer.

Pavlov
04-14-2018, 02:46 AM
Told ya nigas

Looks like US must have warned russians and avoided any area where russians are stationed

Still not clear if this was just a symbolic bombing or actual bombing to destroy Syrian assets

100 missiles is a whole fucking lot to be just a symbolic bombing. But thankfully looks like its just a one time shot

Expct shit in Ukraine to get real as Im sure Russians are fucking pissedThat's not what you told us.

Chris
04-14-2018, 02:47 AM
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DeadlyDynasty
04-14-2018, 03:41 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVESMxs4rbA

Reck
04-14-2018, 04:32 AM
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So this was a pointless exercise to show the world what they already knew, Chris? That England and France are our allies? :lol

hater
04-14-2018, 06:34 AM
:lol

“The Syrian ministry explained that Syria repelled the Western attack by air defense complexes made in the USSR over 30 years ago, including the S-125 and S-200 air defense systems, as well as Buk and Kvadrat.

the Syrian defense forces managed to intercept 71 cruise missile out of 103, including all that had been fired at Dumayr military airport located 40 kilometers (24 miles) north-east of Damascus.“

hater
04-14-2018, 06:38 AM
If that is to be believed then that means Syria intercepted about $184 million US taxpayer dollars :lol

hater
04-14-2018, 06:45 AM
If 30 year old Russian s125 can do this then US has no prayer vs S400. No wonder they did not even dare shoot 1 of their 2.6 million dollar duds at any Russian area :lmao

Btw S500 is already being set up in Moscow regions :lmao


Damn

DeadlyDynasty
04-14-2018, 06:48 AM
Just yesterday we spotted a Buk M2 on railway tracks along with the rest of its support vehicles...impressive setup, tbh.

hater
04-14-2018, 06:50 AM
Cool

US is way behind so many areas. Thank God for our mighty airplanes and pilots otherwise wed be speaking Russian right now :lol

boutons_deux
04-14-2018, 07:15 AM
Here are 16 tweets where Trump attacks Obama for exactly what Trump is doing in Syria now (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/4/13/1756959/-Donald-Trump-s-evolution-on-Syria-brought-to-you-by-his-Twitter-history)

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/4/13/1756959/-Donald-Trump-s-evolution-on-Syria-brought-to-you-by-his-Twitter-history?detail=emaildkre

hater
04-14-2018, 07:17 AM
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boutons_deux
04-14-2018, 07:19 AM
No check, no balance: For Trump, congressional approval is optional on Syria (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/4/13/1756961/-No-check-no-balance-For-Trump-congressional-approval-is-optional)

It wasn’t that long ago that Donald Trump had a very different view of Syria.


(https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)Donald J. Trump
✔@realDonaldTrump
(https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)
What will we get for bombing Syria besides more debt and a possible long term conflict? Obama needs Congressional approval.
1:14 PM - Aug 29, 2013 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/373146637184401408)


Trump wasn’t alone in insisting that President Obama needed congressional approval before taking any military action in Syria.

The opinions seemed universal among Republicans at the time.

Which is why President Obama actually sought the authority to strike Syria (https://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/01/world/middleeast/syria.html). And congressional Republicans expressed their appreciation for Obama following the rules in their traditional fashion.

But that was then. This is now. (http://thehill.com/homenews/house/382428-gop-rep-trump-doesnt-need-congress-to-take-military-action)

Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-Ill.) on Tuesday said he doesn’t believe President Trump needs to seek congressional approval before taking military action in response to the recent chemical attack in Syria.

“Look, if he came to Congress, obviously I’d support it. I don’t think he needs to,” Kinzinger said while citing the War Powers Act on CNN’s “New Day.”


And Kinzinger has it right.

Since Congress is a rubber stamp for Trump, there’s little point in going through the motions.

In fact, one might even say that Congress isn’t needed at all.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/4/13/1756961/-No-check-no-balance-For-Trump-congressional-approval-is-optional?detail=emaildkre

DeadlyDynasty
04-14-2018, 08:36 AM
:lol

“The Syrian ministry explained that Syria repelled the Western attack by air defense complexes made in the USSR over 30 years ago, including the S-125 and S-200 air defense systems, as well as Buk and Kvadrat.

the Syrian defense forces managed to intercept 71 cruise missile out of 103, including all that had been fired at Dumayr military airport located 40 kilometers (24 miles) north-east of Damascus.“
I would take what the Syrian Ministry says with a grain of salt.

US DoD just said that not one of the US missiles was shot down by Syrian Air Defense and that the vast majority of Syrian missiles started firing after the coalition strikes were over. Again, it's a matter of choose who you wanna believe, but I'm a little more inclined to believe us over Baghdad Bob 2.0:lol

UZER
04-14-2018, 08:44 AM
I would take what the Syrian Ministry says with a grain of salt.

US DoD just said that not one of the US missiles was shot down by Syrian Air Defense and that the vast majority of Syrian missiles started firing after the coalition strikes were over. Again, it's a matter of choose who you wanna believe, but I'm a little more inclined to believe us over Baghdad Bob 2.0:lol

Kawhi va PATFO all over again.

pgardn
04-14-2018, 08:44 AM
:lol

“The Syrian ministry explained that Syria repelled the Western attack by air defense complexes made in the USSR over 30 years ago, including the S-125 and S-200 air defense systems, as well as Buk and Kvadrat.

the Syrian defense forces managed to intercept 71 cruise missile out of 103, REALLY? including all that had been fired at Dumayr military airport located 40 kilometers (24 miles) north-east of Damascus.“

Oh yeah.

Exact stats this early...
No problem here.

Gulliblility suits you like a glove.

pgardn
04-14-2018, 08:46 AM
If 30 year old Russian s125 can do this then US has no prayer vs S400. No wonder they did not even dare shoot 1 of their 2.6 million dollar duds at any Russian area :lmao

Btw S500 is already being set up in Moscow regions :lmao


Damn

Dare to shoot... ?

You are a clown.

z0sa
04-14-2018, 08:48 AM
:lol

“The Syrian ministry explained that Syria repelled the Western attack by air defense complexes made in the USSR over 30 years ago, including the S-125 and S-200 air defense systems, as well as Buk and Kvadrat.

the Syrian defense forces managed to intercept 71 cruise missile out of 103, including all that had been fired at Dumayr military airport located 40 kilometers (24 miles) north-east of Damascus.“

Literally none of their SAMs met with a coalition target. None.

If ancient Soviet tech rendered our mid range missile technology impotent Russia would be the superpower controlling the world instead of us. Since that’s not true, it is safe to logically believe our intel over a tenuously situated state’s puppet media.

DeadlyDynasty
04-14-2018, 08:52 AM
Literally none of their SAMs met with a coalition target. None.

If ancient Soviet tech rendered our mid range missile technology impotent Russia would be the superpower controlling the world instead of us. Since that’s not true, it is safe to logically believe our intel over a tenuously situated state’s puppet media.
You should really get a load of Russian media...especially on the "DPR" or "LPR" side of this country..."spent" shells/casings/missiles = direct hit:lmao

boutons_deux
04-14-2018, 08:53 AM
I suppose we'll never have an accurate info on the damage done, including civilians, "babies, little babies", killed.

Trash and the military claim perfection, taking us all for fools.

For whatever damage was done, now what? Assad has been "improved"?

DeadlyDynasty
04-14-2018, 08:54 AM
I suppose we'll never have an accurate info on the damage done, including civilians, "babies, little babies", killed.

Trash and the military claim perfection, taking us all for fools.

For whatever damage was done, now what? Assad has been "improved"?
not babies AND little babies:(

z0sa
04-14-2018, 09:05 AM
You should really get a load of Russian media...especially on the "DPR" or "LPR" side of this country..."spent" shells/casings/missiles = direct hit:lmao

That’s just the vodka talking tbh.

What’s dpr/lpr?

z0sa
04-14-2018, 09:15 AM
I suppose we'll never have an accurate info on the damage done, including civilians, "babies, little babies", killed.

Trash and the military claim perfection, taking us all for fools.

For whatever damage was done, now what? Assad has been "improved"?

Line 1: the non guided SAMs launched by Syrian forces ballistically for the sake of propaganda almost certainly wasted dozens of their own civilians. Again.

Line 2: In terms of delivering the payload we ordered, the attack was perfect. Did it destroy Assad’s chemical warfare capability? Remains to be seen.

Line 3: eliminating chemical weapons manufacturing, distribution and storage facilities prevents another chemical warfare attack. It also directly threatens Assad with regime change should be make use of a hidden cache of them. Russia doesn’t want regime change and that is why they lie so forcefully and wholeheartedly about Assad’s culpability concerning their now numerous deployments.

You’re like a child, really.

Pavlov
04-14-2018, 09:15 AM
I'm trying to get a read on how Alex Jones feels about this....a little vague for him....

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DeadlyDynasty
04-14-2018, 09:27 AM
That’s just the vodka talking tbh.

What’s dpr/lpr?
Donetsk People's Republic/Luhansk People's Republic...Russian-backed separatists in Eastern Ukraine. We have a few Hubs/bases on that side of the line and the local media (and Russian-backed national media) is just an endless source of comedy. The Ukrainian side of the line isn't much better, media-wise, but the other side is basically Soviet Russia propaganda--on crack. Moral of the story is if Russia reports any military "successes," be very suspicious. More often than not, it's bullshit. Other times, it's true but the victory was a Pyrrhic one. Same shit since 1917 tbh

boutons_deux
04-14-2018, 09:35 AM
Trump's Strike Didn't Stop Assad Last Year and Won't Stop Him Now

A largely symbolic action with little consequence on the ground.

https://www.alternet.org/trumps-strike-didnt-stop-assad-last-year-and-wont-stop-him-now

Winehole23
04-14-2018, 09:48 AM
Line 1: the non guided SAMs launched by Syrian forces ballistically for the sake of propaganda almost certainly wasted dozens of their own civilians. Again.

Line 2: In terms of delivering the payload we ordered, the attack was perfect. Did it destroy Assad’s chemical warfare capability? Remains to be seen.

Line 3: eliminating chemical weapons manufacturing, distribution and storage facilities prevents another chemical warfare attack. It also directly threatens Assad with regime change should be make use of a hidden cache of them. Russia doesn’t want regime change and that is why they lie so forcefully and wholeheartedly about Assad’s culpability concerning their now numerous deployments.

You’re like a child, really.is it possible to bomb CW manufacturing, distribution and storage facilities without causing CW contamination?

https://www.karger.com/Article/FullText/345123


Together these data establish that large numbers of US and Coalition military personnel were exposed to levels of sarin rated by the US EPA as AEGL-2, which is high enough to cause ‘irreversible or other serious, long-lasting adverse health effects'

DeadlyDynasty
04-14-2018, 09:49 AM
Trump's Strike Didn't Stop Assad Last Year and Won't Stop Him Now

A largely symbolic action with little consequence on the ground.

https://www.alternet.org/trumps-strike-didnt-stop-assad-last-year-and-wont-stop-him-now

Nobody has ever read any of the links you've posted on this site for 15 years.

hater
04-14-2018, 10:54 AM
Both sides are talking bullshit. I dont fully believe either

They probably did intercept a few missiles but also majority of them probably reached their targets

Still the conclusion is this was just a symbolic bombing

We will see what happens next 2 weeks

Pavlov
04-14-2018, 10:59 AM
Both sides are talking bullshit. I dont fully believe either

They probably did intercept a few missiles but also majority of them probably reached their targets

Still the conclusion is this was just a symbolic bombing

We will see what happens next 2 weeksThat's quite the walk back from your OP tbh.

hater
04-14-2018, 11:15 AM
And thank God to that :tu

Still the stand off is not done. UK and Russia have real bad blood and Syria still has their special forces officers. Not to mention both Skrippal and Douma investigations.

We are not out of the woods yet

Pavlov
04-14-2018, 11:19 AM
And thank God to that :tu

Still the stand off is not done. UK and Russia have real bad blood and Syria still has their special forces officers. Not to mention both Skrippal and Douma investigations.

We are not out of the woods yetSo you can hop over to the other side of the issue again. :lol

pgardn
04-14-2018, 11:20 AM
Both sides are talking bullshit. I dont fully believe either

They probably did intercept a few missiles but also majority of them probably reached their targets

Still the conclusion is this was just a symbolic bombing

We will see what happens next 2 weeks

Pentagon claims complete success (go figure). Russia stated they would stop ANY attack on the Syrians. They sat sidelined. Its a bombing without any UN backing. So the symbolism is the Western powers that have the capability, and will strike Assad if they deem some act a war crime. And we have no idea if this is over or how long this lasts. I would imagineRussia did not want to have to deal with this.

Your complete capitulation on silly claims is weird.
You don’t believe either side... sure. You have never been discriminating in what you believe with all the shit you put up.

So on the gas attack?

It never happened, or it was done by the U.K.? Which is it now?

Spurminator
04-14-2018, 11:25 AM
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z0sa
04-14-2018, 11:36 AM
is it possible to bomb CW manufacturing, distribution and storage facilities without causing CW contamination?

https://www.karger.com/Article/FullText/345123

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It is a valid counterpoint. Honestly I can’t answer that.

Chris
04-14-2018, 12:01 PM
Spurminator doesn't understand that policy and opinion can change after 5 years. Poor fella.

Winehole23
04-14-2018, 12:03 PM
It is a valid counterpoint. Honestly I can’t answer that.fair enough.

where did you get your information about what targets were destroyed last night?

nm,

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/14/middleeast/syria-strikes-what-we-know-intl/index.html

Spurminator
04-14-2018, 12:08 PM
Spurminator doesn't understand that policy and opinion can change after 5 years. Poor fella.

I do realize those things can change. Obviously you changed some of your own opinions when you went from a Ralph Nader voter to someone who cheerleads for Donald Trump for hours a day.

I thought it was an amusing adaption of a popular meme.

But since you mentioned it, Chris, which policy changed with regard to Syria?

pgardn
04-14-2018, 12:09 PM
Spurminator doesn't understand that policy and opinion can change after 5 years. Poor fella.

You mean 5 minutes.

Pavlov
04-14-2018, 12:20 PM
Spurminator doesn't understand that policy and opinion can change after 5 years. Poor fella.

Heard Trump wants to pull out of Syria and put troops on the border.

mein neger Farrage on Syria/Etc...


CLdQNBGbd8oYou changed your mind on Syria.

Why?

pgardn
04-14-2018, 12:29 PM
You changed your mind on Syria.

Why?

It’s really not a mind...

Its more like a series of whispy, random, fleeting, fog banks rolling in and out...

Spurtacular
04-14-2018, 02:06 PM
:cry Muh fag hag was supposed to be the one starting World War III :cry

Spurtacular
04-14-2018, 02:12 PM
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Trump has restarted your war. You must be overjoyed.

Spurminator
04-14-2018, 02:21 PM
Trump has restarted your war. You must be overjoyed.

It was pointless military theater when Obama did it in 2013, and when Trump did it last year. Why would that suddenly change now?

Spurtacular
04-14-2018, 02:23 PM
It was pointless military theater when Obama did it in 2013, and when Trump did it last year. Why would that suddenly change now?

Yup; but I doubt you were that expressive about it, then.

Spurminator
04-14-2018, 02:38 PM
Yup; but I doubt you were that expressive about it, then.

How expressive? Posting a meme from Twitter?

Anyway, you didn't answer the question of why it would be different this time.

Spurtacular
04-14-2018, 03:04 PM
How expressive? Posting a meme from Twitter?

Anyway, you didn't answer the question of why it would be different this time.

I'm sure you gave Obama a pass, bro. So, not expressive at all.

And how would it change now? We're being more antagonistic directly towards Russia; so, WWIII or some sort of escalation is possible.

Pavlov
04-14-2018, 03:15 PM
Spurtacular grudge *ding*ing all over the place.

hater
04-14-2018, 04:15 PM
:lmao US attack dissapointed even the terrorists :lol

They are publicly talking shit about Us dud strike and telling US to up their game :lol

Earlier, Alloush described the strike as “a farce” on his official Twitter account. The statements by the Jaysh al-Islam leader indicate that he was hoping for a game-changing strike. Jaysh al-Islam’s political leader appears to be growing more desperate following a rapid defeat of his armed group in the Eastern Ghouta region.

Local observers said that that most militants, including elements of radical groups like Hay’at Tahrir al-Sham (HTS), also expressed their disappointment with the strike on social media. The HTS-linked Iba’a agency even mocked the strike and said that “a political disagreement” had been the real motive behind it.

Spurminator
04-14-2018, 04:17 PM
I'm sure you gave Obama a pass, bro. So, not expressive at all.

I basically gave Trump a pass, except to point out his convenient change of philosophy on the matter. Did Obama display a similar 180 in 2013?


And how would it change now? We're being more antagonistic directly towards Russia; so, WWIII or some sort of escalation is possible.

Putin and Assad were allies in 2013. He warned against military action back then too. And that was when he wasn't phone pals with the POTUS. What changed that concerns you more now?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/04/putin-warns-military-action-syria

hater
04-14-2018, 04:24 PM
:lmao you know your missile strike was a complete disgrace when your Islamic Jihadi allies are slamming you on twitter :lmao

Chris
04-14-2018, 05:13 PM
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"After weeks of questions and concerns from locals over the U.S commitment to the region -- concerns fueled by President Trump’s recent statement that would soon be pulled -- many see the U.S strikes against the authoritarian regime as a hopeful sign: Not only is America willing to take the lead against blatant violations putting civilians in dire peril, it is here to stay."


"We are so happy the U.S. troops are here. The most important thing is we know we won’t be bombed when the U.S. is here,” said Khalid, a 31-year-old mobile phone seller and graduate of Homs University. “If they leave, we worry Russians will be the first to come in and bomb us. Right now, we are calm and comfortable.”

Spurtacular
04-14-2018, 06:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM8l3X_7Hkg

Spurtacular
04-14-2018, 06:35 PM
I basically gave Trump a pass, except to point out his convenient change of philosophy on the matter. Did Obama display a similar 180 in 2013?



You've given Trump a pass for warmongering? How big of you.

hater
04-14-2018, 06:46 PM
Lol thats fox cheap prooaganda tbqh :lol

hater
04-14-2018, 06:47 PM
:lmao

Pavlov
04-14-2018, 07:27 PM
You've given Trump a pass for warmongering? How big of you.

Are you for or against Trump's actions in Syria?

Spurtacular
04-14-2018, 07:38 PM
Are you for or against Trump's actions in Syria?

Against.

Were you for or against Obama's actions in Syria?

Pavlov
04-14-2018, 07:40 PM
Against.

Were you for or against Obama's actions in Syria?
Which ones?

Spurtacular
04-14-2018, 07:43 PM
Which ones?

Taking on Assad and funding "the Syrian Rebels".
His response to the "chemical attack."

Pavlov
04-14-2018, 07:49 PM
Taking on Assad and funding "the Syrian Rebels".
His response to the "chemical attack."I was OK with those; actually thought the chem attack deserved more action. Also OK with Trump's there now aside from his telegraphing his punches.

With all your quotation marks do you think Trump is capitalizing on a false flag or something?

Spurtacular
04-14-2018, 07:52 PM
I was OK with those; actually thought the chem attack deserved more action. Also OK with Trump's there now aside from his telegraphing his punches.

With all your quotation marks do you think Trump is capitalizing on a false flag or something?

Yes, the Syrian Rebels that Obama funded are Islamist extremists; they aren't humanitarians.

And the chemical attacks have not be verified to any significant degree; nor has it been shown that Assad has engaged in such tactics. And it obviously makes no sense for Assad to randomly gas civilians.

Chris
04-14-2018, 07:58 PM
Yes, the Syrian Rebels that Obama funded are Islamist extremists; they aren't humanitarians.

And the chemical attacks have not be verified to any significant degree; nor has it been shown that Assad has engaged in such tactics. And it obviously makes no sense for Assad to randomly gas civilians.

To be fair we aren't privvy to the intelligence that Mattis might have on the chemical attacks. Everyone agrees Assad is a bad guy except Russia.

Spurtacular
04-14-2018, 07:59 PM
To be fair we aren't privvy to the intelligence that Mattis might have on the chemical attacks. Everyone agrees Assad is a bad guy except Russia.

Cop out. You wouldn't be "fair" if this was Obama. Government is accountable to the American people and to the rest of the world when it comes to warring.

Pavlov
04-14-2018, 08:04 PM
Yes, the Syrian Rebels that Obama funded are Islamist extremists; they aren't humanitarians.Source for this?

Spurtacular
04-14-2018, 08:08 PM
Source for this?

You think I'm doing a research paper here, bro? You tell me why they're good. Show me their mission statement if you find this to be disputable.

Chris
04-14-2018, 08:11 PM
Cop out. You wouldn't be "fair" if this was Obama. Government is accountable to the American people and to the rest of the world when it comes to warring.

I'm always fair minded regardless of the subject. You're asking for classified material though.

Pavlov
04-14-2018, 08:11 PM
You think I'm doing a research paper here, bro?You're waving a white flag.

Thanks.

Spurtacular
04-14-2018, 08:13 PM
I'm always fair minded regardless of the subject. You're asking for classified material though.

So, your argument is we should just take the government's word for it when it comes to starting wars.

Spurtacular
04-14-2018, 08:14 PM
You're waving a white flag.

Thanks.

Are the Syrian Rebels good or bad people?

Chris
04-14-2018, 08:18 PM
So, your argument is we should just take the government's word for it when it comes to starting wars.

I'm going to take Mattis' word for it - yes. Did we start another war yet? No.

Pavlov
04-14-2018, 08:18 PM
Are the Syrian Rebels good or bad people?All of them?

There are several disparate groups that could be described as Syrian rebels, so you'll have to be more specific.

You didn't think there was just one group, did you?

Spurtacular
04-14-2018, 08:19 PM
I'm going to take Mattis' word for it - yes. Did we start another war yet? No.

Bombing another country is warring, bro.

Spurtacular
04-14-2018, 08:20 PM
All of them?

There are several disparate groups that could be described as Syrian rebels, so you'll have to be more specific.

You didn't think there was just one group, did you?

As a conglomerate are they good or bad? Is their leadership good or bad? Are the soldiers good or bad?

Chris
04-14-2018, 08:24 PM
Bombing another country is warring, bro.

It was a missile strike and it was designed to take out chemical weapons and development centers that Assad and John Kerry sweared "doesn't exist". It was a flex not a declaration of war.

Pavlov
04-14-2018, 08:44 PM
As a conglomerate are they good or bad? Is their leadership good or bad? Are the soldiers good or bad?Again, you'll have to be more specific.

Apparently you're laboring under the impression they are all the same. That isn't true.

Spurtacular
04-14-2018, 08:45 PM
Again, you'll have to be more specific.

Apparently you're laboring under the impression they are all the same. That isn't true.

You're running. Par.

This false flag operation was never a secret.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmYCgK2zHCI&feature=youtu.be

Spurtacular
04-14-2018, 08:47 PM
It was a missile strike and it was designed to take out chemical weapons and development centers that Assad and John Kerry sweared "doesn't exist". It was a flex not a declaration of war.

You have to put forth significant justification to bomb a country. We have not done so. Bombing is not okay just cos you "trust Mattis."

Chris
04-14-2018, 08:52 PM
You have to put forth significant justification to bomb a country. We have not done so. Bombing is not okay just cos you "trust Mattis."

...And we've come full circle back to classified intelligence. We can disagree on the integrity of General Mattis.

Spurtacular
04-14-2018, 08:54 PM
...And we've come full circle back to classified intelligence. We can disagree on the integrity of General Mattis.

It's war, bro. And there's a reason that the founders said war had to be enacted by Congress and not by the arbitrary judgement of some idiot nicknamed Mad Dog.

Chris
04-14-2018, 09:03 PM
It's war, bro. And there's a reason that the founders said war had to be enacted by Congress and not by the arbitrary judgement of some idiot nicknamed Mad Dog.

The President has the authority under article II of the Constitution to use military force overseas to defend important US National interests. Again - we haven't declared war thus, no Congress.

Spurtacular
04-14-2018, 09:26 PM
The President has the authority under article II of the Constitution to use military force overseas to defend important US National interests. Again - we haven't declared war thus, no Congress.

Nope. Nothing in the Constitution states that the president can engage in war without a declaration of war from Congress first.

pgardn
04-14-2018, 09:48 PM
You think I'm doing a research paper here, bro? You tell me why they're good. Show me their mission statement if you find this to be disputable.

Mission statement...

What a crock of shit.
Actions.
Was there gas used in Syria?

Have all the other UN recognized gas attacks been Western attacks?
You are a total wack job. What you choose to believe depends totally on your idealogical makeup and nothing to do with finding any truth. You only will believe what fits your world view so you will continually be wrong.

Chris
04-14-2018, 09:55 PM
Nope. Nothing in the Constitution states that the president can engage in war without a declaration of war from Congress first.

Congress passed the 2001 AUMF, finding the president has, “’authority under the Constitution to take action to deter and prevent acts of international terrorism against the United States."

The 2002 AUMF gives the president authority to, “’defend the national security of the United States."

Article II authority, reinforced by the 2001 and 2002 AUMFs, has been used to take action against al-Qaida, the Taliban, the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria and associated forces.

Spurtacular
04-14-2018, 09:56 PM
Mission statement...

What a crock of shit.
Actions.
Was there gas used in Syria?

Have all the other UN recognized gas attacks been Western attacks?
You are a total wack job. What you choose to believe depends totally on your idealogical makeup and nothing to do with finding any truth. You only will believe what fits your world view so you will continually be wrong.

Tell me what you "believe" on those matters.

Spurtacular
04-14-2018, 09:58 PM
Congress passed the 2001 AUMF, finding the president has, “’authority under the Constitution to take action to deter and prevent acts of international terrorism against the United States."

The 2002 AUMF gives the president authority to, “’defend the national security of the United States."

Article II authority, reinforced by the 2001 and 2002 AUMFs, has been used to take action against al-Qaida, the Taliban, the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria and associated forces.

Yes, government has had no problem ignoring the Constitution with such acts.

pgardn
04-14-2018, 10:10 PM
Tell me what you "believe" on those matters.

I believe Assad used gas just like he has done before.
His father was the same type of Butcher.
Read about the city of Hama and you will understand from way back this entire family has used extermination of its own people who don’t fall into line as a method to stay in power. It’s just not that unusual for dictators and authoritarians, they will use killing to produce fear in their own unstable country. Is very effective for minority dictators. Same with Saddam and Khaddaffi quack and the Shah of Iran. The problem comes when they get on the wrong side of the US.

Spurtacular
04-14-2018, 10:15 PM
I believe Assad used gas just like he has done before.
His father was the same type of Butcher.

It was a false flag operation both times. Assad had no reason to gas citizens and bring further decimation to his infrastructure. You may notice that we hear no real stories about it; we just get propaganda videos of people washing themselves with a hose; we don't even know the alleged severity to be justifying all this war.

Chris
04-14-2018, 10:18 PM
Yes, government has had no problem ignoring the Constitution with such acts.

On the contrary they are utilizing the constitution but we can disagree on that as well.

pgardn
04-14-2018, 10:19 PM
It was a false flag operation both times. Assad had no reason to gas citizens and bring further decimation to his infrastructure. You may notice that we hear no real stories about it; we just get propaganda videos of people washing themselves with a hose; we don't even know the alleged severity to be justifying all this war.

He had every reason to use gas. He is running out of men to do the toughest fighting in the last holdout region where his toughest enemies hide among a population that just wants to be left alone and has to constantly change sides depending on who is in power at the moment. He has done it before, and he will likely do it again.

pgardn
04-14-2018, 10:20 PM
It was a false flag operation both times. Assad had no reason to gas citizens and bring further decimation to his infrastructure. You may notice that we hear no real stories about it; we just get propaganda videos of people washing themselves with a hose; we don't even know the alleged severity to be justifying all this war.

So there was no gas?

Or there was gas and it was used by whom?

And gas is used as it does not damage infrastructure ya dumb ass. But in this case the infrastructure was largely rubble. It’s an inaccurate way to get rid of or disperse large groups of people from a larger area where the infrastructure provides shelter.

The justification for US bombing them is a whole different debate.

Spurtacular
04-14-2018, 10:27 PM
On the contrary they are utilizing the constitution but we can disagree on that as well.

The Constitution is clear about warring only after Congress has declared war.

Spurtacular
04-14-2018, 10:31 PM
So there was no gas?

Or there was gas and it was used by whom?

And gas is used as it does not damage infrastructure ya dumb ass. But in this case the infrastructure was largely rubble. It’s an inaccurate way to get rid of or disperse large groups of people from a larger area where the infrastructure provides shelter.

The justification for US bombing them is a whole different debate.

Gas was by whom is a good question. Certainly there has been no credible proof put forth that it was from Assad. The decimation is from the resulting war, "dumbass".

..............

"The justification for US bombing them is a whole different debate."

Dafuq? :lol

That is the justification, bro. It was a militaristic "response."

Spurtacular
04-14-2018, 10:35 PM
He had every reason to use gas. He is running out of men to do the toughest fighting in the last holdout region where his toughest enemies hide among a population that just wants to be left alone and has to constantly change sides depending on who is in power at the moment. He has done it before, and he will likely do it again.

Assad knows the world is watching. He's not gonna do that counter-productive move, dude. You've been eating up all the propaganda about how bad Assad is that you've never stopped to think how bad the people are that want to get a stake in Syria are.

pgardn
04-14-2018, 10:36 PM
Gas was by whom is a good question. Certainly there has been no credible proof put forth that it was from Assad. The decimation is from the resulting war, "dumbass".

..............

"The justification for US bombing them is a whole different debate."

Dafuq? :lol

That is the justification, bro. It was a militaristic "response."

Its a whole different subject fathead.

Question: Who used this gas, was it even used what’s the truth?

Question: Is it’s the US responsiblility to respond militarily if a ruler gases his own innocent people?

They are entirely different debates.
Dont be an idiot.

ducks
04-14-2018, 10:40 PM
Any body with a brain knows who used the gas

pgardn
04-14-2018, 10:44 PM
Assad knows the world is watching. He's not gonna do that counter-productive move, dude. You've been eating up all the propaganda about how bad Assad is that you've never stopped to think how bad the people are that want to get a stake in Syria are.

The world is watching? Are you fckn kidding? You just said a bunch of people washing themselves with hoses proves nothing. You are the one not believing the medical heroes on neither side that are just trying to help people from suffering.

And You dare to use the word propaganda when you slurp it is like your mother’s milk... dude...
Dont tell me he is not gonna do that counter productive move, dude. This guy is a desperate man totally relying on makeshift forces and unknown allegiance to keep a small part of his tattered world. You can’t even begin to think like him because you have no fckn clue what kind of position he is in.

Spurtacular
04-14-2018, 10:50 PM
Its a whole different subject fathead.

Question: Who used this gas, was it even used what’s the truth?

Question: Is it’s the US responsiblility to respond militarily if a ruler gases his own innocent people?

They are entirely different debates.
Dont be an idiot.

You're making no sense whatsoever. Your idiotic conclusion isn't even supported by rational thinking. The bombing was literally a "response" to the gassing, bro.

ElNono
04-14-2018, 10:51 PM
255784560904773633

ElNono
04-14-2018, 10:52 PM
If Article II had authority, you didn't need the AUMF passed by Congress...

But then, the AUMF was passed and never voided, which also means Congress is full of little shits that don't want to deal with such decisions...

Spurtacular
04-14-2018, 10:53 PM
The world is watching? Are you fckn kidding? You just said a bunch of people washing themselves with hoses proves nothing. You are the one not believing the medical heroes on neither side that are just trying to help people from suffering.

And You dare to use the word propaganda when you slurp it is like your mother’s milk... dude...
Dont tell me he is not gonna do that counter productive move, dude. This guy is a desperate man totally relying on makeshift forces and unknown allegiance to keep a small part of his tattered world. You can’t even begin to think like him because you have no fckn clue what kind of position he is in.

Bro, this was scripted. We knew that the US was gonna "intervene" based on alleged chemical attacks. We've known this for months now. You're the one slurpin...

Spurtacular
04-14-2018, 10:54 PM
If Article II had authority, you didn't need the AUMF passed by Congress...

But then, the AUMF was passed and never voided, which also means Congress is full of little shits that don't want to deal with such decisions...

Yes, they've shirked their Constitutional responsibilities. It doesn't mean the Constitution justifies it as Chris is claiming.

pgardn
04-14-2018, 10:58 PM
You're making no sense whatsoever. Your idiotic conclusion isn't even supported by rational thinking. The bombing was literally a "response" to the gassing, bro.

Of course it was.

But it’s not even the same question. Don’t be an idiot. Do you want me to separate them again for you?

Ill use my answers to illustrate.

1. I am personally very sure Assad used chemicals to gas his own people for the reasons I already stated before ( that you had no clue about as you don’t even understand why civilians are in the mix in an urban war zone)

2. I really don’t know if it is our responsibility to attack another country with missiles or if it is even a deterrent in dissuading a desperate dictator from usingchemical weapons that are highly inaccurate.

pgardn
04-14-2018, 11:02 PM
Bro, this was scripted. We knew that the US was gonna "intervene" based on alleged chemical attacks. We've known this for months now. You're the one slurpin...

We know no such thing. Quit acting like a complete dolt.

Our current president stated a week or so before the attack we were pulling out. Then he said he was, then he was not going to use force. Furthermore, he had already chastised the president before him for both action and inaction at the wrong time. You have no idea what orange man is going to do and neither do I or even his own people in the WH.

Spurtacular
04-14-2018, 11:11 PM
...


This is not our first rodeo, bro. And the US admitted it was bull shit the last time, too. This is how brazen the deep state is.

http://www.newsweek.com/now-mattis-admits-there-was-no-evidence-assad-using-poison-gas-his-people-801542


(http://www.newsweek.com/now-mattis-admits-there-was-no-evidence-assad-using-poison-gas-his-people-801542)

Spurtacular
04-14-2018, 11:14 PM
We know no such thing. Quit acting like a complete dolt.

Our current president stated a week or so before the attack we were pulling out. Then he said he was, then he was not going to use force. Furthermore, he had already chastised the president before him for both action and inaction at the wrong time. You have no idea what orange man is going to do and neither do I or even his own people in the WH.

Trump knows the script. He follows to take the heat off himself. It's not that hard to figure out.

pgardn
04-14-2018, 11:18 PM
This is not our first rodeo, bro. And the US admitted it was bull shit the last time, too. This is how brazen the deep state is.

http://www.newsweek.com/now-mattis-admits-there-was-no-evidence-assad-using-poison-gas-his-people-801542

No evidence he used SARIN... Not no evidence he used GAS

Are you really this cheaply and childishly deceptive?
This is like arguing with a 3rd grader.

Our first rodeo... wtf are you blabbering about?

ducks
04-14-2018, 11:19 PM
255784560904773633

His are not they are going up now before attack

Spurtacular
04-14-2018, 11:21 PM
No evidence he used SARIN... Not no evidence he used GAS

Are you really this cheaply and childishly deceptive?
This is like arguing with a 3rd grader.

Our first rodeo... wtf are you blabbering about?

There's no evidence he's done any chemical warfare PERIOD. It's all conjecture, dude. Google it; you won't find sh**. Yet you're all in on war for it.

pgardn
04-14-2018, 11:23 PM
Trump knows the script. He follows to take the heat off himself. It's not that hard to figure out.

He what?

I thought he did not follow the establishment “DEEEEEEEP state” shit?
Its not that hard to figure out? Sure thing... Now he says he wants back in the Pacific treaty. Is this for real? We are going to be back in within the month, a year what? Tell us. NOW.

Tell the entire board now since Trump is so easy to figure out.

Its not that hard to figure out... Bull shit.

pgardn
04-14-2018, 11:29 PM
There's no evidence he's done any chemical warfare PERIOD. It's all conjecture, dude. Google it; you won't find sh**. Yet you're all in on war for it.

Google it?

You gave me the fckn article moron!

You gave ME the article that specifically mentioned no evidence of SARIN, NOT GAS. Ie chemical weapons.

And bullshit there is no evidence. Hundreds of people were treated by medical staff in that area. That’s how this came to be. That is evidence YOU DONT BELIEVE. That evidence got shuttled out of that area and presented. And you don’t believe it.

As for your bolder statement read my post again you lyin SOB

pgardn
04-14-2018, 11:31 PM
Of course it was.

But it’s not even the same question. Don’t be an idiot. Do you want me to separate them again for you?

Ill use my answers to illustrate.

1. I am personally very sure Assad used chemicals to gas his own people for the reasons I already stated before ( that you had no clue about as you don’t even understand why civilians are in the mix in an urban war zone)

2. I really don’t know if it is our responsibility to attack another country with missiles or if it is even a deterrent in dissuading a desperate dictator from usingchemical weapons that are highly inaccurate.


What does this say Spurtacularlyinsob?

Spurtacular
04-14-2018, 11:34 PM
He what?

I thought he did not follow the establishment “DEEEEEEEP state” shit?
Its not that hard to figure out? Sure thing... Now he says he wants back in the Pacific treaty. Is this for real? We are going to be back in within the month, a year what? Tell us. NOW.

Tell the entire board now since Trump is so easy to figure out.

Its not that hard to figure out... Bull shit.

What the fuck do you think Trump cares about dropping a few bombs to appease some factions and to change the narrative away from himself?

Spurtacular
04-14-2018, 11:36 PM
Google it?

You gave me the fckn article moron!

You gave ME the article that specifically mentioned no evidence of SARIN, NOT GAS. Ie chemical weapons.

And bullshit there is no evidence. Hundreds of people were treated by medical staff in that area. That’s how this came to be. That is evidence YOU DONT BELIEVE. That evidence got shuttled out of that area and presented. And you don’t believe it.

As for your bolder statement read my post again you lyin SOB

Google it. You'll find no substantial proof of Assad gassing the people. If you got it though, post it "lyin SOB." You won't, so educate yourself instead:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiiFWcSmABs

pgardn
04-14-2018, 11:38 PM
What the fuck do you think Trump cares about dropping a few bombs to appease some factions and to change the narrative away from himself?

I have no idea what he thinks brofessor.

You tell us

and while you are at it tell us the outcome of the Pacific treaty that he said was unfair and now wants back in.
NOW Ms. Cleo.

pgardn
04-14-2018, 11:41 PM
Google it. You'll find no substantial proof of Assad gassing the people. If you got it though, post it "lyin SOB." You won't, so educate yourself instead:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiiFWcSmABs

Educate...

gtfoh moron

infowars...

Substantial proof is what YOU decide you like or don’t. You think there was no gas used by Assad because of the substantial proof given by infowars...

Wtf did you even put up that Newsweekarticle.
That’s a pitiful slight of hand job... dude...

pgardn
04-14-2018, 11:47 PM
What a piece of trash...

Why did I even bother.
Total waste of time.

Spurtacular
04-14-2018, 11:51 PM
Educate...

gtfoh moron

infowars...

Substantial proof is what YOU decide you like or don’t. You think there was no gas used by Assad because of the substantial proof given by infowars...

Wtf did you even put up that Newsweekarticle.
That’s a pitiful slight of hand job... dude...

You're throwing a tantrum because you cannot post the proof that Assad gas'd his people.

Also :lol at triggered by Infowars, but you'll take anything the deep state shoves down your throat.

FUCKING TOOL.

Spurtacular
04-14-2018, 11:56 PM
:cry

Funny how I'm finding all this stuff to back up this stuff I saw a mile away...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-z_eQcdQVI

Pavlov
04-15-2018, 12:21 AM
You're running. Par.

This false flag operation was never a secret.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmYCgK2zHCI&feature=youtu.be
:lol Do you know who owns RT?

Spurtacular
04-15-2018, 12:23 AM
:lol Do you know who owns RT?

:lol Do you know who owns the mainstream media?

spurraider21
04-15-2018, 12:30 AM
In the most recent edition of unstoppable force vs immovable object we have derp’s belief that everything is a false flag vs Chris’s desire to semen shield dear leader

Chris
04-15-2018, 12:33 AM
In the most recent edition of unstoppable force vs immovable object we have derp’s belief that everything is a false flag vs Chris’s desire to semen shield dear leader

Everything I said was a fact.

Spurtacular
04-15-2018, 12:46 AM
In the most recent edition of unstoppable force vs immovable object we have derp’s belief that everything is a false flag vs Chris’s desire to semen shield dear leader

You do understand that you are being lied to about Syria? I don't care about your 'lil conspiracy theorist card. If you're a lemming, that's your deal.

spurraider21
04-15-2018, 01:11 AM
Everything I said was a fact.


You do understand that you are being lied to about Syria? I don't care about your 'lil conspiracy theorist card. If you're a lemming, that's your deal.
:lol

Spurtacular
04-15-2018, 01:16 AM
:lol

Educate yourself, son.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1VNQGsiP8M

TDMVPDPOY
04-15-2018, 02:22 AM
why didnt trump wait for UN to send in ppl to see if there was chemical wmd? instead he went out on his own

can we conclude those buildings were actually wmd storage rooms? or just empty buildings?

anyway that russian s-400 system is beasts

Pavlov
04-15-2018, 02:26 AM
:lol Do you know who owns the mainstream media?Yes, actually.

You didn't answer the question.

Who owns RT?

Don't dodge it. Answer it.

Chris
04-15-2018, 02:35 AM
985419957704966144

spurraider21
04-15-2018, 03:06 AM
You do understand that you are being lied to about Syria? I don't care about your 'lil conspiracy theorist card. If you're a lemming, that's your deal.
:lol conspiracy theorists are always narcissists tbh... "i'm so much smarter than all you sheep. only I know the real truth"

spurraider21
04-15-2018, 03:08 AM
:lmao hater (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7609)

U.N. Security council fails to adopt Russian resolution on Syria (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-un-vote/u-n-security-council-fails-to-adopt-russian-resolution-on-syria-idUSKBN1HL162)


UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - The United Nations Security Council failed to adopted a Russian-drafted resolution on Saturday that would have condemned “the aggression against the Syrian Arab Republic by the U.S. and its allies in violation of international law and the U.N. Charter.”

Only Russia, China and Bolivia voted in favor of the draft resolution. Eight countries voted against the draft, while four abstained. A resolution needs nine votes in favor and no vetoes by Russia, China, France, Britain or the United States to pass.

Spurtacular
04-15-2018, 03:23 AM
:cry Please get lost in the weeds with me :cry

Par.

Spurtacular
04-15-2018, 03:25 AM
:lol conspiracy theorists are always narcissists tbh... "i'm so much smarter than all you sheep. only I know the real truth"

I guess the <insert example> is smarter than the sheep in a manner of speaking.

So, I take it that means you don't realize you're getting lied to on Syria.

Ellsworth
04-15-2018, 03:39 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR5hjJzyN1Y

:downspin:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qKrPPv2ErY

:cooldevil

Chris
04-15-2018, 03:55 AM
:lmao hater (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7609)

U.N. Security council fails to adopt Russian resolution on Syria (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-un-vote/u-n-security-council-fails-to-adopt-russian-resolution-on-syria-idUSKBN1HL162)




Bolivia? :lol Isn't that cartel cocaine candy land?

pgardn
04-15-2018, 06:58 AM
I guess the <insert example> is smarter than the sheep in a manner of speaking.

So, I take it that means you don't realize you're getting lied to on Syria.

You must realize you are being fed shit constantly.
If you don’t, you are completely clueless.
You are slurping the most ridiculously difficult explanations.

Personally I think you are really merely a cheap ass liar.

pgardn
04-15-2018, 07:05 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR5hjJzyN1Y

:downspin:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qKrPPv2ErY

:cooldevil

Like this is info about the US that no one discusses. You have got to be kidding.
This lady thinks she is exposing some deep dark truth about the US mentioning the US using atomic weapons on Japan? Give me a break... Our foray into Vietnam? Are you kidding? Seriously wake up. There are books everywhere about these wars and incidents. There are TV series about these issues on PBS etc... airing all the time.

No no one ever talks about....holy shit... untold... sure thing ....

The First Lady is grateful to platforms like RT because she has their opinion. Look up the interviews with the people who have quit. You find me any articles critical of Putin in RT calling him a out for his getting rid of opposition. You won’t. Do the critical analyst for any of US presidents in Wapo, Ny Times, Theguardian, they are all over. For EVERY PRESIDENT. What a crock of shit.

hater
04-15-2018, 08:22 AM
:lmao Animal Assad going in raw

"Since 1990s we have seen in American movies that the Russian weaponry is "backward." And now we see, whose's really backward,"

Pavlov
04-15-2018, 11:22 AM
Par.:lol quote change white flag.

You're already lost if you didn't know there was more than on (1) group of rebels in Syria.

Pavlov
04-15-2018, 11:25 AM
:lmao Animal Assad going in raw

"Since 1990s we have seen in American movies that the Russian weaponry is "backward." And now we see, whose's really backward,"Do the Russians have old animations showing how well they worked?

hater
04-15-2018, 12:44 PM
Israeli media terrified Syria might get S300

They are literaly saying

“Now Our pilots could die if we happen to be bombing them”. :lmao

So apparently no Israeli enemy should be allowed to get anti air defenses because it wouldnt be fair to them :lmao

Pavlov
04-15-2018, 12:46 PM
Israeli media terrified Syria might get S300

They are literaly saying

“Now Our pilots could die if we happen to be bombing them”. :lmao

So apparently no Israeli enemy should be allowed to get anti air defenses :lmaoWhere did they literally say this?

Spurtacular
04-15-2018, 03:12 PM
You must realize you are being fed shit constantly.
If you don’t, you are completely clueless.
You are slurping the most ridiculously difficult explanations.

Personally I think you are really merely a cheap ass liar.

Well, you're a spazz; so, whatever.

Spurtacular
04-15-2018, 03:13 PM
:lol quote change white flag.

You're already lost if you didn't know there was more than on (1) group of rebels in Syria.

I never claimed there was not more than one group, bro. (Clinging to a) False narrative; Par.

Pavlov
04-15-2018, 03:32 PM
I never claimed there was not more than one group, bro. (Clinging to a) False narrative; Par.
Great. What groups are you talking about then?

Spurtacular
04-15-2018, 03:37 PM
Great. What groups are you talking about then?

As always, I'm not doing your gay little quizzes. You can make real points if you feel so inclined.

Pavlov
04-15-2018, 03:42 PM
As always, I'm not doing your gay little quizzes. You can make real points if you feel so inclined.

I already made my point. You tried to pass of the rebels as a single group, now you're stonewalling and trying to act like you knew there were multiple groups all along. Either you're ignorant or dishonest or both.

Spurtacular
04-15-2018, 03:45 PM
I already made my point. You tried to pass of the rebels as a single group, now you're stonewalling and trying to act like you knew there were multiple groups all along. Either you're ignorant or dishonest or both.

Nope. I asked you about a group "The Syrian Rebels," a term coined by your beloved media.

FAIL. PAR.

And :lol that you're "Either you're ignorant or dishonest or both."

Pavlov
04-15-2018, 04:06 PM
Nope. I asked you about a group "The Syrian Rebels," a term coined by your beloved media.

FAIL. PAR.

And :lol that you're "Either you're ignorant or dishonest or both."I'm going with both.

You only knew the "media term", which is bullshit because the media have spent a lot of time describing the multiple groups, and now you're trying to act like you knew there was more than one group.

You're an ignorant liar who will now do anything to avoid talking about the Syrian rebel groups.

Spurtacular
04-15-2018, 04:12 PM
I'm going with both.

You only knew the "media term", which is bullshit because the media have spent a lot of time describing the multiple groups, and now you're trying to act like you knew there was more than one group.

You're an ignorant liar who will now do anything to avoid talking about the Syrian rebel groups.

You're going with you got your ass handed to you. I said nothing incorrect and now you're having yourself a cry.

Pavlov
04-15-2018, 04:13 PM
You're going with you got your ass handed to you. I said nothing incorrect and now you're having yourself a cry.:lol declaring victory

I notice you're not talking about the Syrian rebel groups anymore.

All so predictable.

Spurtacular
04-15-2018, 04:14 PM
:cry


:lol at the FAIL on trying to call me out; those are especially sad/funny when pompous bitches like you try that and go down in flames.

Spurtacular
04-15-2018, 04:19 PM
Pavlov

Gonna throw you a bone, pompous bitch. The cease fires have been useless b/c many of the groups don't accept them or abide them. You should stop assuming what people know or don't know. You make an ass out of you, not me.

hater
04-15-2018, 04:21 PM
US and Pentagon expect world to believe they sent 105 cruise missiles to 3 targets :lmao

35 each to 3 small barely fortified sets of buildings :lmao

Even Syrian rebels say Pentagon is full of shit and Syria. Army downed 65 missiles http://www.syriahr.com/en/?p=89324

In reality it looks like US and allies shot at 6 Syrian airports including Damascus International airport. Al those missiles were shot down

Msadly this embarrasment will mean US will try to redem themselves again. Sucks

hater
04-15-2018, 04:47 PM
It just doesnt add up. I have hard time believing 30 year old Soviet defenses obliterated most US cruise missiles

But I looked at the satelite picturs of 3 targets and no way 105 cruise missiles landed

Could it be possible Russia defended with their s300s and both sides are hiding this fact to avoid an all out war???

Chris
04-15-2018, 05:02 PM
It was widely reported that a lot of the missiles were "dummy" missiles designed to distract and exhaust Syrian anti-air capabilities. Also keep in mind that it was 3 different countries dropping missiles.

Spurtacular
04-15-2018, 05:31 PM
It was widely reported that a lot of the missiles were "dummy" missiles designed to distract and exhaust Syrian anti-air capabilities. Also keep in mind that it was 3 different countries dropping missiles.

What I keep in mind is how many billions of dollars are wasted b/c some CIA ops or UN associated group gave a few Jihadis some chlorine bombs to irritate some dozens of civilians. There's a reason there were no hearings hosted to justify these unjustifiable actions; you keep pretending this lame venture is anything but waste and pointless terrorism on the Syrian people.

Chris
04-15-2018, 05:34 PM
What I keep in mind is how many billions of dollars are wasted b/c some CIA ops or UN associated group gave a few Jihadis some chlorine bombs to irritate some dozens of civilians. There's a reason there were no hearings hosted to justify these unjustifiable actions; you keep pretending this lame venture is anything but waste and pointless terrorism on the Syrian people.

All I know is that it wasn't a declaration of war.

Spurtacular
04-15-2018, 05:36 PM
All I know is that it wasn't a declaration of war.

A good thing. We can only hope that Trump has thrown some globalist goons a bone and that he has a good end game.

Pavlov
04-15-2018, 05:40 PM
:lol at the FAIL on trying to call me out; those are especially sad/funny when pompous bitches like you try that and go down in flames.


Pavlov

Gonna throw you a bone, pompous bitch. The cease fires have been useless b/c many of the groups don't accept them or abide them. You should stop assuming what people know or don't know. You make an ass out of you, not me.I know you had no idea what you were talking about. You furiously Googled something to try to save face.

Chris
04-15-2018, 05:42 PM
A good thing. We can only hope that Trump has thrown some globalist goons a bone and that he has a good end game.

I agree the Globalists are a threat but I'm unable to see how they were involved here besides Macron and May bending over for Trump.

hater
04-15-2018, 05:46 PM
It was widely reported that a lot of the missiles were "dummy" missiles designed to distract and exhaust Syrian anti-air capabilities. Also keep in mind that it was 3 different countries dropping missiles.

Good point then the statement that pentagon said they launched 105 missiles is false then

They actually launched 30 missiles at 3 abandoned outhouses and acgomplished their “mission” :lmao

Spurtacular
04-15-2018, 05:49 PM
I agree the Globalists are a threat but I'm unable to see how they were involved here besides Macron and May bending over for Trump.

War is a high grossing business.

Spurtacular
04-15-2018, 05:52 PM
I know you had no idea what you were talking about. You furiously Googled something to try to save face.

"You should stop assuming what people know or don't know. You make an ass out of you, not me."

This would not show up in a "furious" google search:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1VNQGsiP8M&amp;t=2s

How many times you gonna make a fucking ass out of yourself before you'll ever learn?

Pavlov
04-15-2018, 05:56 PM
"You should stop assuming what people know or don't know. You make an ass out of you, not me."

This would not show up in a "furious" google search:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1VNQGsiP8M&t=2s

How many times you gonna make a fucking ass out of yourself before you'll ever learn?It shows up when you search for "Syria conspiracy media" :lol

Spurtacular
04-15-2018, 05:59 PM
:cry

Your diet is fails. You feast on 'em, bro.

:lmao :lmao :lmao

Spurtacular
04-15-2018, 06:14 PM
It shows up when you search for "Syria conspiracy media" :lol

Let's see; woman charitably giving of her time and own money to uncover truth vs. multi-trillion dollar industries doing a propaganda campaign.

You just feasting on those fails. Nom Nom Nom.

:lmao :lmao :lmao

Pavlov
04-15-2018, 06:25 PM
Your diet is fails. You feast on 'em, bro.

:lmao :lmao :lmao


Let's see; woman charitably giving of her time and own money to uncover truth vs. multi-trillion dollar industries doing a propaganda campaign.

You just feasting on those fails. Nom Nom Nom.

:lmao :lmao :lmaoToo many emojis. Overplayed your hand.

You'll never talk about Syrian rebel groups again.

Spurtacular
04-15-2018, 06:39 PM
Too many emojis. Overplayed your hand.

You'll never talk about Syrian rebel groups again.

Not even an emoji for every fail you've had just in this thread. You should stop pretending you have an heir of superiority; you don't.

Pavlov
04-15-2018, 06:40 PM
Not even an emoji for every fail you've had just in this thread. You should stop pretending you have an heir of superiority; you don't.You're certainly not talking about Syrian rebel groups anymore.

:lol heir

Chris
04-15-2018, 06:51 PM
I'm going to give Spurt the benefit of the doubt and say that it probably spell checked into heir.

Spurtacular
04-15-2018, 07:05 PM
I'm going to give Spurt the benefit of the doubt and say that it probably spell checked into heir.

Either one works, tbh; but air is the colloquial way of saying it. I'll take the fail for argument's sake. That puts me at about one to chump's fifteen for this thread. :lol

DMC
04-15-2018, 08:20 PM
I've fled the country to Canada. Fucking freezing rain for days, but at least I won't get hit by a nuke.

Chris
04-15-2018, 08:34 PM
I've fled the country to Canada. Fucking freezing rain for days, but at least I won't get hit by a nuke.

Apparently all the elite 1%ers are fleeing to New Zealand.

DMC
04-15-2018, 10:12 PM
Apparently all the elite 1%ers are fleeing to New Zealand.

New Zealand isn't a welcoming country, for many.

monosylab1k
04-15-2018, 10:19 PM
373743492151136256

It’s pretty incredible how often this guy’s old tweets come back to bite him in the ass.

hater
04-15-2018, 10:41 PM
New Zealand isn't a welcoming country, for many.

Yes it is


Mqny times more welcoming than Cucknada

DMC
04-15-2018, 11:02 PM
Yes it is


Mqny times more welcoming than Cucknada

It's Canuckistan or Que-Nada

But no, it's not, and I am only here for business. Don't be dense.

Ellsworth
04-16-2018, 02:28 AM
Like this is info about the US that no one discusses. You have got to be kidding.

No no one ever talks about....holy shit... untold... sure thing ....




The only thing I can be sure of is myself, everything else could be a figment of my imagination... "The only thing you can be sure of is yourself, everything else could be a figment of your imagination."

Pavlov
04-16-2018, 02:34 AM
Either one works, tbh:lol no
but air is the colloquial way of saying it.:lol no

boutons_deux
04-16-2018, 06:39 AM
373743492151136256

It’s pretty incredible how often this guy’s old tweets come back to bite him in the ass.

it's depressing how few of his low-wage, low-education rural base know what the fuck is going on, and obviously no idea of the contradictory tweets, and Trash's obviously diseased brain (we read all about it in the Presidential health report, didn't we?)

boutons_deux
04-16-2018, 06:46 AM
Trump to Impose New Sanctions on Russia Over Support for Syria

meant to signal that the United States holds responsible not just the government of President Bashar al-Assad but also his patrons in Russia and Iran.

President Trump has vowed that Syria’s allies will pay a “big price” for facilitating the suspected use of poison gas.

the president singled out Mr. Putin over Syria’s use of chemical weapons on Twitter and again in a televised speech (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/13/world/middleeast/trump-syria-airstrikes-full-transcript.html) on Friday night.

Mr. Putin spoke with President Hassan Rouhani of Iran

on Sunday to discuss the confrontation in Syria and reaffirm his opposition to the airstrike by American, British and French forces.

“Vladimir Putin, in particular, stressed that if such actions, carried out in violation of the U.N. Charter, continue,

it will inevitably lead to chaos in international relations,” the Kremlin said in a statement (http://www.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/57263).

The strikes against Syria were designed to avoid provoking Russia into a response.

By hitting just three targets and limiting the attack to a single night, the

Trump administration seemed to avoid compelling Moscow to lash back (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/14/world/europe/russia-syria-missile-chemical.html).

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/15/us/politics/trump-russia-sanctions-syria.html?ncid=newsltushpmgnews__TheMorningEmail_ _041618

Trump still refused to implement the sanctions passed quas-unanimously by Congress.

hater
04-16-2018, 07:07 AM
It's Canuckistan or Que-Nada

But no, it's not, and I am only here for business. Don't be dense.

I been to both nations for both business and pleasure.and its not close. Cuckcanadians detest immigrants and their laws reflect that.

Kiwis on the other hand welcome ppl especially their government. (So far, of course things are changing a but but its the global trend)

They even offered me a permanent residence in kiwiland which I accepted just in case.

pgardn
04-16-2018, 08:02 AM
I been to both nations for both business and pleasure.and its not close. Cuckcanadians detest immigrants and their laws reflect that.

Kiwis on the other hand welcome ppl especially their government. (So far, of course things are changing a but but its the global trend)

They even offered me a permanent residence in kiwiland which I accepted just in case.

Who is they?

hater
04-16-2018, 08:17 AM
Kiwi Company I consulted for

hater
04-16-2018, 11:47 AM
Dayum

985876850198147072

985909580705271810

hater
04-16-2018, 11:49 AM
Latest rumors is next false flag chemical attack will be in Idlib

Probably in 1 or 2 weeks.

Syrian government has said this.

This new false flag attack will happen and West will use it to obliterate Assads anti aircraft system.

Shit will get real fellas

Enjoy last few weeks of human race

Pavlov
04-16-2018, 11:55 AM
Dayum

985876850198147072

985909580705271810Is there a link to an interview or something?

[EDIT] Oh, it's so important they're waiting a day.

I'll wait for the actual article in the Independent.

Spurminator
04-16-2018, 01:54 PM
985945780388327424

hater
04-16-2018, 01:57 PM
:lmao nikki hayley :lmao shes basically a shillary clone :lol

Glad Trump is telling her neocon ass to simmer down :lol

boutons_deux
04-16-2018, 01:58 PM
Pootin has Trash by Trash's tiny (alleged) balls.

What else could Trash do or say to act guilty of being compromised by Russians? :lol I'm sure he'll find ways to act guilty.

I'm sure the Repug Congressional leaders will visit Trash to discuss.

hater
04-16-2018, 02:05 PM
White house also just said Trump still wants to meet with Putin

Dayum Neocon shillarytards are gonna have an epic meltdown today

Pavlov
04-16-2018, 02:07 PM
White house also just said Trump still wants to meet with Putin

Dayum Neocon shillarytards are gonna have an epic meltdown today:lol Dennison

hater
04-16-2018, 02:16 PM
Holeee sheetz

:lmao teresa may gets obliterated in Parliament :lol

985928311292465154


:lmao gawd dayum

B:lolris J:lolhnson :lol

hater
04-16-2018, 02:27 PM
985918231906062336

:lol

Chris
04-16-2018, 03:14 PM
985918231906062336

:lol

P:lolrt:loln J:lolhns:loln :lmao

DMC
04-16-2018, 05:14 PM
I been to both nations for both business and pleasure.and its not close. Cuckcanadians detest immigrants and their laws reflect that.

Kiwis on the other hand welcome ppl especially their government. (So far, of course things are changing a but but its the global trend)

They even offered me a permanent residence in kiwiland which I accepted just in case.

Been there and immigrated there are two different things. I get into Canada with zero delays.


https://www.immigroup.com/news/top-10-immigration-friendly-countries

Canada ranked 5th. US ranked 1st. NZ not ranked.

pgardn
04-16-2018, 05:50 PM
Kiwi Company I consulted for

Why would NZ hire a guy from the US to consult? $$$

What do you do that people in NZ can’t?

pgardn
04-16-2018, 05:56 PM
Holeee sheetz

:lmao teresa may gets obliterated in Parliament :lol

985928311292465154


:lmao gawd dayum

B:lolris J:lolhnson :lol


Does Putin ever get obliterated in the Duma?

The answer is no and not because Putin does everything perfectly. Theresa May has been jeered and harangued in parliament for much more than the clearly Russian poisoning. It’s called democracy... it’s something you fail to understand. The power of democracy is OPEN CRITICISM. If this never happens in a country, something is wrong. The U.K. joining the US and France is not universally popular, this is why democracy is a superior form of government. Something that completely escapes you.

Dolt...

hater
04-16-2018, 06:53 PM
Been there and immigrated there are two different things. I get into Canada with zero delays.


https://www.immigroup.com/news/top-10-immigration-friendly-countries

Canada ranked 5th. US ranked 1st. NZ not ranked.

Meh

I was on the ground and talked to many immigrants. Most were happy with their Nz experience meanwhile in Cucknada most were dissapointed

hater
04-16-2018, 06:54 PM
Omfg :wow :lmao wtf?

985674891306254336

hater
04-16-2018, 06:56 PM
985997958184304644

984974627326873600

Mah jiga Pavlov nailed this bitch tbqh :lol

pgardn
04-16-2018, 08:27 PM
985997958184304644

984974627326873600

Mah jiga Pavlov nailed this bitch tbqh :lol

OAN

Trying to compete with Fox for the lunatic fringe.

Yet another boffo conservative nut cake site...

pgardn
04-16-2018, 08:30 PM
I been to both nations for both business and pleasure.and its not close. Cuckcanadians detest immigrants and their laws reflect that.

Kiwis on the other hand welcome ppl especially their government. (So far, of course things are changing a but but its the global trend)

They even offered me a permanent residence in kiwiland which I accepted just in case.


Who is they?


Kiwi Company I consulted for


Why would NZ hire a guy from the US to consult? $$$

What do you do that people in NZ can’t?

Exactly.
Nothing..

DMC
04-16-2018, 08:54 PM
Meh

I was on the ground and talked to many immigrants. Most were happy with their Nz experience meanwhile in Cucknada most were dissapointed

Yeah, anecdote beats statistical data

DMC
04-16-2018, 08:56 PM
Exactly.
Nothing..

Hater spent years in Japan and in New Zealand. If we brought up Mars, he's been living on the planet for 3 years under the umbrella of secrecy with NASA. IRL he probably works in a mall.

hater
04-16-2018, 09:08 PM
Yeah, anecdote beats statistical data

Yup

pgardn
04-16-2018, 09:25 PM
I been to both nations for both business and pleasure.and its not close. Cuckcanadians detest immigrants and their laws reflect that.

Kiwis on the other hand welcome ppl especially their government. (So far, of course things are changing a but but its the global trend)

They even offered me a permanent residence in kiwiland which I accepted just in case.


Who is they?


Kiwi Company I consulted for


Hater spent years in Japan and in New Zealand. If we brought up Mars, he's been living on the planet for 3 years under the umbrella of secrecy with NASA. IRL he probably works in a mall.

So this is where he vacations unobserved.

But, yeah... He’s been and seen just about everything.
Amazing fella.

DMC
04-16-2018, 09:27 PM
So this is where he vacations unobserved.

But, yeah... He’s been and seen just about everything.
Amazing fella.
Must be close to 140 by now. Probably the real Highlander. There can be only one.

hater
04-16-2018, 09:47 PM
oh japan. e its the most advanced society

Doesnt mean its perfect as they have lots of social problems. They are more like an antfarm than a real humansociety

But still they are impressive

TDMVPDPOY
04-16-2018, 10:38 PM
oh japan. e its the most advanced society

Doesnt mean its perfect as they have lots of social problems. They are more like an antfarm than a real humansociety

But still they are impressive

problem with japan now is the aging population, current youngsters aint breeding much maybe due to lifestyle or financial reasons..

at leasts they aint exporting other countries problems into theirs, must keep that aryan race pure...lol germany, lol wanker chancellor, lol floodgates of goatfuckers living among europe

every country has their own social, microeconomic issues, its the multiculturalism issue of accepting more migrants in...

hater
04-16-2018, 11:17 PM
Yeah japanese youth prefers to jack off to manga than fuck real puntani

They also are really bad at social interaction for the most part. When you call a japanese to say whats up they are literally shocked and awed and dont know how to respond

Besides those problems they are the most advanced society in the world

hater
04-16-2018, 11:23 PM
Back on topic:
- looks like the next big battle is in Idlib which is ruled by Al Qaeda
- Erdopig is on notice to remove his observation bases in Idlib and also start leaving from Afrin
- he will probably comply but will cancel his order of S400 in anger
- US will start directly supporting Al Qaeda in Idlib and the media hype of humanitarian disaster there will spin
- the next “chemical attack” will happen in Idlib
- US airforce will literally become Al Qaedas air force as they will come to their rescue

SnakeBoy
04-16-2018, 11:30 PM
Most important thing is that we survived WW3

hater
04-16-2018, 11:54 PM
Most important thing is that we survived WW3

:tu so far

But not out of the woods yet

pgardn
04-17-2018, 06:41 AM
oh japan. e its the most advanced society

Doesnt mean its perfect as they have lots of social problems. They are more like an antfarm than a real humansociety

But still they are impressive

Advanced how?

So they got drones that mean nothing individually but do all the tough labor and one group of breeding individuals? Yes, they are a lot like bees.

We got hater rating the today’s nation states, big stuff...

hater
04-17-2018, 07:24 AM
986175356473348097

hater
04-17-2018, 04:25 PM
:lmao stupid bitch Shillary clone is going rogue and trying to start ww3 :lol

Fire her ass Donnie :lol

Nikki Haley Got ‘Ahead of the Curve’ in Announcing Russian Sanctions, Officials Say - NYT

boutons_deux
04-17-2018, 04:44 PM
President Trump’s War Crime is Worse than the One He Accuses Assad of (https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/04/16/president-trumps-war-crime-is-worse-than-the-one-he-accuses-assad-of/)

the US violated the most profound international law of war:

initiating a war of aggression against a nation that posed no threat, imminent or otherwise, to the US or its allies.

Called a “Crime against Peace,” this violation (whose perpetrators, under the precedent set in the Nuremberg Trials that followed World War II, can face capital punishment),

is considered worse than any other war crime because, as US Nuremberg prosecutor Robert Jackson explained in his argument at the Nuremberg Trials of Nazi war criminals,

a war of aggression is “not only an international crime; it is the supreme international crime differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole.”

[Trash] He was making the argument that the US, acting on its own authority without any sanction from the UN Security Council as required under international law,

somehow had a duty to, on its own, punish Syria for its alleged violation of a Geneva Convention against the use of chemical weapons.

even if that country’s leader, Basher al Assad, did order the use of a banned chemical weapon,

Assad’s crime would be far less serious than the crime Trump and the US perpetrated under international law.

https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/04/16/president-trumps-war-crime-is-worse-than-the-one-he-accuses-assad-of/

"babies, little babies"

hater
04-17-2018, 05:01 PM
986232742542098432

Pavlov
04-17-2018, 05:08 PM
986232742542098432:lol You're just posting stupid tweets from stupid people.

hater
04-17-2018, 10:38 PM
Looks like Raqqa is about to blow up

Apparently so called “Freed by the US” but now run by gangs of extremist thugs and citizens want Assad back

We are fucking up there. Bombed 70% of buildings and not lifting a finger ti rebuild shit.

This will come back to bite us very soon. What a fuck up

986203431693094912

hater
04-17-2018, 10:41 PM
986265570273316864

Stupid idiots. If u gonna pretend to liberate it at least lift a finger to help the people

This is a total failure