***OFFICIAL KAWHI RELATED NEWS Thread***

[Hoops Czar]

:lol You are a bitter old man whose not even a Spurs fan but is obsessed with trolling Spur fans despite your shitty Cavs not ever having a rivalry with the Spurs. Hell I can understand why Laker fans troll here 24/7 due to the intense rivalry from the Duncan/Kobe era but your trolling is just strange from a motive perspective. To me you are just a deranged angry person.

I would love to see the Spurs win but I'm realistic to know with this crappy roster they are not going to win many games this year. I can't be an unrealistic stupid person and expect the Spurs to be great this year and that's why I said they could lose 50 in a row and it won't matter. I can live with it. I lived through the horrible '97 season. To get angry and depressed after every spurs loss is just stupid and retarded. It's obvious you are upset the losing is not getting to me.

Personally, I don't think you're over the age of 15. but do carry on. Btw, that '97 was a great season. It netted the Spurs the #1 pick in the draft but that's what being bad buys you. This year, you'll get an upclose and personal look at what mediocrity buys. It's not nearly as shiny or pretty, not quite as fundamental and will probably take two, three or six years to develop meaning many more years of mediocrity. The Spurs are in NBA pergatory, not good enough to contend and not bad enough to bottom out. And unlike Zion who looks like a slamdunk superstar in the making, the rest of the draft is a crapshhoot..

You need two things to be a contender... Assets in order to make trades and building blocks in order to attract free agents. The Spurs have neither and the Spurs won't be picking #1 this upcoming offseason either. Pop officially took caree of that this summer.

[daslicer]

Personally, I don't think you're over the age of 15. but do carry on. Btw, that '97 season netted the #1 pick in the draft but that's what being bad buys you. This year, you'll get an upclose and personal look at what mediocrity buys. It's not nearly as shiny or pretty, not quite as fundamental and will probably take two, three or six years to develop meaning many more years of mediocrity. The Spurs are in NBA pergatory, not good enough to contend and not bad enough to bottom out. And unlike Zion who looks like a slamdunk superstar in the making, the rest of the draft is a crapshhoot..

:lol Proving what I said in my original post that you are just a bitter old man who is hell bent on seeing Spur fans suffer. I'm in my 30's right now so yes I remember the '97 season very well. :lol I got to see my team win 5 titles in my lifetime while you who is close to 100 now only got to see the Cavs win 1 in your lifetime. Trust me I'm set for life regardless of what happens this point forward with the Spurs.

I know what mediocrity looks like since I'm NC native and also follow the Hornets. I have seen the Hornets miss out on Davis when they tried to tank for him and blow a bunch of lottery picks over 10 plus years. Spurs could easily go the same path the Hornets have gone. Nothing is guaranteed but like I said before I got to see my team win while I was young unlike you who got to see the Cavs win at the near age of 100. Has to suck to go through nearly a century of tortured fandom.

[JakeCuenca]

:lol Proving what I said in my original post that you are just a bitter old man who is hell bent on seeing Spur fans suffer. I'm in my 30's right now so yes I remember the '97 season very well. :lol I got to see my team win 5 titles in my lifetime while you who is close to 100 now only got to see the Cavs win 1 in your lifetime. Trust me I'm set for life regardless of what happens this point forward with the Spurs.

I know what mediocrity looks like since I'm NC native and also follow the Hornets. I have seen the Hornets miss out on Davis when they tried to tank for him and blow a bunch of lottery picks over 10 plus years. Spurs could easily go the same path the Hornets have gone. Nothing is guaranteed but like I said before I got to see my team win while I was young unlike you who got to see the Cavs win at the near age of 100. Has to suck to go through nearly a century of tortured fandom.

Did you buy raps@spurs tickets?

Will you throw bottles at kawhi?

[daslicer]

Did you buy raps@spurs tickets?

Will you throw bottles at kawhi?

I live in Charlotte that should answer your question.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Kawhi choked in crunch time

Having said that, it could be worse. He could’ve been on the Spurs

[John B]

I think Kyrie had the better of him down the stretch with Celts beating Raps in OT tonight. Yup Kawhi had a great game stat, but down the stretch Kawhi’s demeanor was not as aggressive as Kyrie who stepped up a notch even more to close the game, while Kawhi was just okay, missing shots, and just walked off the last few seconds of the national televised game resigned. While the rest congratulate each other. I just find it sad. The guy’s weird and I’m sure alone and miserable. It’s not like when Timmy or Manu would corral everybody before, pat in the back, nice game. Hmmm.

[Ice009]

Kawhi choked in crunch time

Having said that, it could be worse. He could’ve been on the Spurs

So how are you approaching the season? Are the Spurs still your number one team? Do you follow the Raptors? Are you now going for Kawhi since he is on your home team?

[testies]

Its funny how in a couple of days raptors sub already have a better read of what Kawhi is than us. We had to be eliminated by Clippers and OKC twice in a row to realize he's an awful pick n roll player, creator etc.

I got this from reddit

"Because they give Kawhi the ball in the 4th and he’s a terrible playmaker. All you can expect from them is Kawhi iso in the 4th, that’s not good enough."

[JeffDuncan]

...


I got this from reddit ...

Ewww. I hope you washed your hands before posting here.



"Because they give Kawhi the ball in the 4th and he’s a terrible playmaker. All you can expect from them is Kawhi iso in the 4th, that’s not good enough."


The 4th quarter "coaching" in that game reminded me of some Spurs games.

[Roscoe P. Coltrane]

Go spread peanut butter around your butt cheeks and get someone to booty fuck you , nasty ass 95 year old faggot. Weird, you think of someone spreading peanut butter on their but cheecks and then getting but fucked. And then you call them a fag?

[Amuseddaysleeper]

So how are you approaching the season? Are the Spurs still your number one team? Do you follow the Raptors? Are you now going for Kawhi since he is on your home team?

Spurs will always and forever be my #1 team (despite me being a whiny cunt about them all the time). I’ve always had a soft spot for the Raptors since I live in Toronto but fuck Kawhi. It sucks because I want the Raptors to do well but I can’t bring myself to root for Kawhi. It’s been very bizarre. It’s like your wife leaving you for your best friend and then they both decide to move in with you. Still not used to seeing him in another jersey. I just hope he fucks off to the Clippers so I can root for the Raps as my second team “normally” instead of thisnweird conflicted situation that we have now

Still miss Danny Green, nice to see him do well here.

[spurs10]

Spurs will always and forever be my #1 team (despite me being a whiny cunt about them all the time). I’ve always had a soft spot for the Raptors since I live in Toronto but fuck Kawhi. It sucks because I want the Raptors tondobwel butnincant bring myself tonroot for Kawhi. It’s been very bizarre. It’s like your wife leaving you for your best friend and then they both decide to move in with you. Still not used to seeing him in another jersey. I just hope he fucks off to the Clippers so I can root for the Raps as my second team “normally” instead of thisnweird conflicted situation that we have now

Still miss Danny Green, nice to see him do well here. Yes that's a tough spot. I always liked the Raptors because of their enthusiastic fan base with thousands of fans outside watching the games from giant screens during the playoffs. Kahwi brings out he worst in me too and I truly can't stand to watch him.

[50Bestspurever]

It’s just a fucking game!! But god dam this is gonna hurt for a long long time. Still can’t believe he is gone.

[Mirrornick]

Weird, you think of someone spreading peanut butter on their but cheecks and then getting but fucked. And then you call them a fag?

thinking and doing is two different things faggot

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Yes that's a tough spot. I always liked the Raptors because of their enthusiastic fan base with thousands of fans outside watching the games from giant screens during the playoffs. Kahwi brings out he worst in me too and I truly can't stand to watch him.

Yeah, the fan base here is awesome

[spurs10]

Yeah, the fan base here is awesome :bobo

[LakerHater]

Leonard will sit out tonight in Chicago, the Raptors announce. Leonard has yet to play in both halves of a back-to-back this season.

[spursparker9]

Leonard will sit out tonight in Chicago, the Raptors announce. Leonard has yet to play in both halves of a back-to-back this season.

Still working for his 2nd Oscar award when he leave Toronto

[Texas_Ranger]

this bitch really isn't playing back to backs. :lol

[bklynspursfan]

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[RD2191]

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Who gives a shit? The fuck has Lowry ever won?

[HarlemHeat37]

What's surprising is the amount of Raptors fans that have been surprised by Kawhi's 1 on 1 style of basketball and limited passing ability:lol I guess they hadn't watched the Spurs in years and thought this team still had passers and ball movement in Pop's magic system..

[TDomination]

Why play him when they keep beating the crap out of teams when hes out.

I'm curious though, is he on the bench at least to support his teammates?

[TDomination]

What's surprising is the amount of Raptors fans that have been surprised by Kawhi's 1 on 1 style of basketball and limited passing ability:lol I guess they hadn't watched the Spurs in years and thought this team still had passers and ball movement in Pop's magic system..

Yeah it's funny it was like topic #1 here. KAWHISO.

hes a great individual player but he does not excel at making plays for others. Hes made plays for others but its not his forte.

Hes just an outstanding 1 on 1 player but it limits the team to an extent.

[NASpurs]

Didn't MJ want Kawhi for Kemba Walker? Damn.

[dbreiden83080]

Amazing how fucking often this dickhead sits out. Never ever plays any back to backs, and even earlier in the season with two days off he apparently needed some rest. He is the most fragile 27-year-old in the league..

[HarlemHeat37]

Yeah it's funny it was like topic #1 here. KAWHISO.

hes a great individual player but he does not excel at making plays for others. Hes made plays for others but its not his forte.

Hes just an outstanding 1 on 1 player but it limits the team to an extent.

It's been more evident this year because he's nowhere near as good as he was for the Spurs as a 1-on-1 player and his 3-point shot is broken..

I didn't mind when he did it with SA due to the lack of alternative options + how dominant he was as a 1 on 1 scorer..

[dbreiden83080]

this bitch really isn't playing back to backs. :lol

I hope he doesn’t expect to be in any serious consideration for league MVP, if he plans on missing roughly 20 games just because he needs rest.

[Harry Callahan]

Malik Rose is probably the leaker who talked about some kind of Spurs "Mafia" - Dreamin.

[Mirrornick]

What's surprising is the amount of Raptors fans that have been surprised by Kawhi's 1 on 1 style of basketball and limited passing ability:lol I guess they hadn't watched the Spurs in years and thought this team still had passers and ball movement in Pop's magic system..

I got banned on realgm for telling the raptors fans that Kawhi Leonard is an ISO player who can't pass. They seriously thought they were getting a Michael Jordan with LeBron James passing and Kobe Bryant mamba mentality. Now 20% are turning on him. It's only a matter of time before everyone turns on him.

[Mirrornick]

Why play him when they keep beating the crap out of teams when hes out.

I'm curious though, is he on the bench at least to support his teammates?

He hasn't been on the bench once. Never seen anything like this before.

[RD2191]

Yeah it's funny it was like topic #1 here. KAWHISO.

hes a great individual player but he does not excel at making plays for others. Hes made plays for others but its not his forte.

Hes just an outstanding 1 on 1 player but it limits the team to an extent.

Yeah, the Spurs are really doing great without his ball hogging tendencies.

[RD2191]

I got banned on realgm for telling the raptors fans that Kawhi Leonard is an ISO player who can't pass. They seriously thought they were getting a Michael Jordan with LeBron James passing and Kobe Bryant mamba mentality. Now 20% are turning on him. It's only a matter of time before everyone turns on him.
You got banned because you're a dumbass tbh

[TDomination]

Lol what a teammate.

I wonder if kawhi will win the twyman stokes teammate of the year award

[HarlemHeat37]

You got banned because you're a dumbass tbh

:lol

[Mirrornick]

You got banned because you're a dumbass tbh

troll

[ezau]

Was watching the Raps play the Celts yesterday and noticed how Kawhi lost some lift and purely relies on length to his shot off. He’s become an outstanding individual player but what a fucking ballhog though.

[J_Paco]

What's surprising is the amount of Raptors fans that have been surprised by Kawhi's 1 on 1 style of basketball and limited passing ability:lol I guess they hadn't watched the Spurs in years and thought this team still had passers and ball movement in Pop's magic system..

Or they were under the false impression that he's a better facilitator/playmaker than he is.

But, I'm sure pinning his inability to create for others (even at his very best he was only subpar) on the Spurs system makes more sense. At his best he is an iso/mid/high post area scorer with limited playmaking ability, much like DeRozan, but he has far superior physical tools, a higher BBIQ and better range.

DeRozan has actually become the better ball handeler and playmaker, yet I think a lot of Raptors fans believed Kawhi could reproduce similar assist totals. Clearly, they got the better player but I still think his subpar playmaking, Iso heavy offense and their limited (offensive skill wise) role players will get them bounced in the 2nd round (maybe conference finals).

[J_Paco]

Yeah, the Spurs are really doing great without his ball hogging tendencies.

Nah, I think the Spurs are doing bad without him, Green, Anderson, Murray, Walker (their) and so on.

Seems like losing a lot of guys at once and having injuries will fuck up team chemistry, dilute your talent pool and negatively effect your win - loss record.

I'm sure we'd do better with all the "ST armchair GM's" running the show, though.

Incoming pointless insult laden comeback with no substance in 3.......2.......1.........

[daslicer]

Nah, I think the Spurs are doing bad without him, Green, Anderson, Murray, Walker (their) and so on.

Seems like losing a lot of guys at once and having injuries will fuck up team chemistry, dilute your talent pool and negatively effect your win - loss record.

I'm sure we'd do better with all the "ST armchair GM's" running the show, though.

Incoming pointless insult laden comeback with no substance in 3.......2.......1.........

Agreed. If you look at even last year the Spurs were a better defensive team with Green,Anderson,Dejounte. Spurs essentially lost 3 good perimeter defenders in Green,Anderson,Dejounte and were not able to replace them.

[Roscoe P. Coltrane]

thinking and doing is two different things faggotlol, so you think of guys spreading peanut butter on their ass and then getting fucked. You are a sick puppy.

[Arcadian]

What a poor little princess! He can't be expected to play 2 whole games in a row. That's just too much strain on his delicate little pussy lips!

[RD2191]

Nah, I think the Spurs are doing bad without him, Green, Anderson, Murray, Walker (their) and so on.

Seems like losing a lot of guys at once and having injuries will fuck up team chemistry, dilute your talent pool and negatively effect your win - loss record.

I'm sure we'd do better with all the "ST armchair GM's" running the show, though.

Incoming pointless insult laden comeback with no substance in 3.......2.......1.........

4 scrubs tbh. And as I said, Kawhi was the system. The 7-7 record speaks for itself.

[RD2191]

What a poor little princess! He can't be expected to play 2 whole games in a row. That's just too much strain on his delicate little pussy lips!

Please sit down fat neck. Kawhi would knock you into next week with one bitch slap.

[emanueldavidginobili]

Stamina wise he’s probably at about 80-85% right now. I’ve seen him look gassed numerous times this season. Come late December/January I expect him to start going off.

[8FOR!3]

Agreed. If you look at even last year the Spurs were a better defensive team with Green,Anderson,Dejounte. Spurs essentially lost 3 good perimeter defenders in Green,Anderson,Dejounte and were not able to replace them.

I honestly think the front office is thinking that Dejounte was going to have a breakout season and be a star defender and overall player (I think that's honestly fair expectations.) With him at PG I think they thought White/Walker would eventually replace Green's impact. And I'd even go as far to say the front office might have thought Bertans could become somewhat of the defensive player Kyle is. Slow, kind of a tweener, but with enough length to give guys a fit on defense (although I'd say Kyle is a good bit stronger.) Obviously Dejounte missing the season screwed the whole plan up and I don't think anybody would have really been prepared for that happening, but the other options just haven't worked out. MAYBE White will figure it out, I think the talent's there he's just not quite there yet. Walker has been hurt as well so we don't really know what we're going to get out of him. Bertans hasn't been good for the most part but he's had a couple of games where he's shown he's capable but obviously that's not enough. I don't think either Cunningham or Pondexter were meant to be rotation players though and Cunningham starting has been rough even though he's given effort. We have a lot of room for internal improvement this season though, White/Bertans need to play better (obviously Aldridge, but I'm talking more about guards and wings and role players) and hopefully we'll get a player out of Walker when he's healthy if he's not sent to the g league. Also I think we assumed we were going to finally get a somewhat athletic rim protector in Poeltl and so far that hasn't worked out. I think we need to really work with him to figure that out.

[J_Paco]

4 scrubs tbh. And as I said, Kawhi was the system. The 7-7 record speaks for itself.

You are really, really dense if you believe 4 NBA caliber players (three of which were drafted in the 1st round) are "scrubs." Are they limited offensively? Yes, but 3 of the 4 were our best perimeter defenders last season and the other is the team's highest drafted player since trading for Kawhi.

Walker also has starter, possibly all-star, potential and raw talent, but continue to heap too much praise on the traitor instead.

I'm surprised some of y'all did run off to Toronto with "The System," since ya'll don't seem to enjoy rooting for the Spurs.

[RD2191]

You are really, really dense if you believe 4 NBA caliber players (three of which were drafted in the 1st round) are "scrubs." Are they limited offensively? Yes, but 3 of the 4 were our best perimeter defenders last season and the other is the team's highest drafted player since trading for Kawhi.

Walker also has starter, possibly all-star, potential and raw talent, but continue to heap too much praise on the traitor instead.

I'm surprised some of y'all did run off to Toronto with "The System," since ya'll don't seem to enjoy rooting for the Spurs.

I'm wearing my raps jersey as I type this. I'll give you Green but KA is a scrub and DJ is a bit overrated. And tbh we don't know what we have in Walker yet. And while the defense is bad I'm still putting most of this .500 start on that bum LMA.

[Fusternino]

Yeah for real if LMA was shooting to his career average FG% we'd be 9-5 right now.

Didn't know that Kawhi was struggling from 3? I knew he had a hot start in that area. Only at 34.0% right now, apparently.

[JakeCuenca]

I keep on telling Raptors fan Kawhi is an ISO player. The difference between him and demar is that hes a more dominant iso scorer and hes got game intangibles.

They're like.." brah hes a top 5 player..stop your nonsense".

Im like yeah sure hes a top 5 player but thats how he plays basketball.

[Mirrornick]

I keep on telling Raptors fan Kawhi is an ISO player. The difference between him and demar is that hes a more dominant iso scorer and hes got game intangibles.

They're like.." brah hes a top 5 player..stop your nonsense".

Im like yeah sure hes a top 5 player but thats how he plays basketball.

Kawhi is not a top 5 player this year.

[The Closer]

It's been more evident this year because he's nowhere near as good as he was for the Spurs as a 1-on-1 player and his 3-point shot is broken..

I didn't mind when he did it with SA due to the lack of alternative options + how dominant he was as a 1 on 1 scorer..

Why the fuck does Kawhi not even get a pick. :lmao

Kraptors game plan. :lmao

[JakeCuenca]

Kawhi is not a top 5 player this year.

Yup. But thats his reputation. So long as the raps are winning and hes putting 25. Hes going to be forever known as that.

Even ESPN had a list 5 days ago (voting) and he was second

[JakeCuenca]

The other lucky thing about Leonard is that all his other destinations for next year are 55+ winning team.

Not a huge fan of Dennis managment way of securing the max deal but you cqnt aruge with the results. Hes about to get paid and tha raps are bending backwards so he can finish the year without any injury

[Mirrornick]

Yup. But thats his reputation. So long as the raps are winning and hes putting 25. Hes going to be forever known as that.

Even ESPN had a list 5 days ago (voting) and he was second

Kyle Lowry has been the better player so far. Kawhi Leonard missed like 5 games already. Lowry carried the team. Yeah I know what you mean by 25 points though.

[Arcadian]

Please sit down fat neck. Kawhi would knock you into next week with one bitch slap.

:lol Why are you defending the guy who quit on his team and needs rest every other game at 28 years old?

If you recall, I was a Kawhi defender until the very end...but then he bitched out, and I reacted appropriately. Because you know, I'm an actual Spurs fan.

[JeffDuncan]

I keep on telling Raptors fan Kawhi is an ISO player. ...

That isn't strictly true. He did iso, sure, but the Spurs would also use him off screens, and ye olde pick'n'roll, and he was deadly.

I wish the Spurs would do more screens and pick'n'roll, and pick'n'pop, for DDR, but the Spurs team offense just sux this year.

[daslicer]

:lol Why are you defending the guy who quit on his team and needs rest every other game at 28 years old?

If you recall, I was a Kawhi defender until the very end...but then he bitched out, and I reacted appropriately. Because you know, I'm an actual Spurs fan.

He tends to be bipolar when it comes to Kawhi. I remember during the summertime he defended Kawhi and then turned on him and is now back on the wagon again. It's like someone who can get over the break up of an ex.

[RD2191]

:lol Why are you defending the guy who quit on his team and needs rest every other game at 28 years old?

If you recall, I was a Kawhi defender until the very end...but then he bitched out, and I reacted appropriately. Because you know, I'm an actual Spurs fan.

Because trashing his basketball skills is fucking stupid. He pretty much revived Duncan's career. Sure, Tiago and Green definitely helped, but they weren't the ones going toe to toe with KD and LBJ, 2 of the greatest players of all time. I mean sure, he quit on the Spurs and he's a sad excuse of a man but to try and diminish what he meant to the Spurs comes off as pathetic and resentful.

[RD2191]

He tends to be bipolar when it comes to Kawhi. I remember during the summertime he defended Kawhi and then turned on him and is now back on the wagon again. It's like someone who can get over the break up of an ex.

Not really, he's a great basketball player but comes off as a lost child otherwise. I still love his game though and enjoy watching him play.

[RC_Drunkford]

The other lucky thing about Leonard is that all his other destinations for next year are 55+ winning team.

Not a huge fan of Dennis managment way of securing the max deal but you cqnt aruge with the results. Hes about to get paid and tha raps are bending backwards so he can finish the year without any injury

He's not gettin the max if he doesn't make an All-NBA team or win DPOY/MVP and he probably won't cause he sits out too many games

[JakeCuenca]

He's not gettin the max if he doesn't make an All-NBA team or win DPOY/MVP and he probably won't cause he sits out too many games

Hes making the 2nd team. Hes that good. Playing at 70% and making 2nd team. He deserves it but I know the reasoning behind not giving it.

[Arcadian]

Because trashing his basketball skills is fucking stupid. He pretty much revived Duncan's career. Sure, Tiago and Green definitely helped, but they weren't the ones going toe to toe with KD and LBJ, 2 of the greatest players of all time. I mean sure, he quit on the Spurs and he's a sad excuse of a man but to try and diminish what he meant to the Spurs comes off as pathetic and resentful.

No but I still acknowledge his skills. I consider him the true MVP of 2017 and potentially the best player on earth, but he's too fragile and retarded to grab that status.

[Rosewood]

Because trashing his basketball skills is fucking stupid. He pretty much revived Duncan's career. Sure, Tiago and Green definitely helped, but they weren't the ones going toe to toe with KD and LBJ, 2 of the greatest players of all time. I mean sure, he quit on the Spurs and he's a sad excuse of a man but to try and diminish what he meant to the Spurs comes off as pathetic and resentful.

Can't stand the retarded trolls on here, but absolutely agree with this.

Kawhi is probably the best basketball player in the world right now and was instrumental in us winning the 5th.

We don't know what happened behind the scenes, and certainly seems like Kawhi really fucked Spurs over in the worst kind of ways, but we don't and never will know the full story.

[spursparker9]

Kawhi is probably gonna be the player with highest win % when all is said and done.

Currently is Timmy or Manu, IIRC

[JakeCuenca]

Can't stand the retarded trolls on here, but absolutely agree with this.

Kawhi is probably the best basketball player in the world right now and was instrumental in us winning the 5th.

We don't know what happened behind the scenes, and certainly seems like Kawhi really fucked Spurs over in the worst kind of ways, but we don't and never will know the full story.

Kawhi is not the best player in the world. 2016 sure..

This kawhi is closer to 5-9

[Kobe'sAchilles]

I like Giannis this year as MVP. Kawhi will deservedly finish 2nd team All NBA. Not his fault but Durant, LeBron, AD, and Giannis all have had better years.

[spursparker9]

I like Giannis this year as MVP. Kawhi will deservedly finish 2nd team All NBA. Not his fault but Durant, LeBron, AD, and Giannis all have had better years.

Nah, Kawhi will be in 1st Team All NBA. Voters reward winning team

[Kobe'sAchilles]

Nah, Kawhi will be in 1st Team All NBA. Voters reward winning team
Over who? Bc Durant and LeBron are shoe ins and Giannis is winning. He also has the better stats plus he has played more games

[JakeCuenca]

Over who? Bc Durant and LeBron are shoe ins and Giannis is winning. He also has the better stats plus he has played more games

Lol just like Lebron and KD were shoe ins when kawhi finished first team in both years?

All of kawhis first team came in seasons both Durant and Lebron had great seasons. I do think kawhi doesnt deserve 1 1st team if he keeps up with his rest BS by January though

[Kobe'sAchilles]

Lol just like Lebron and KD were shoe ins when kawhi finished first team in both years?

All of kawhis first team came in seasons both Durant and Lebron had great seasons. I do think kawhi doesnt deserve 1 1st team if he keeps up with his rest BS by January though
Durant was hurt one of those years so that's why he didn't get it. And there was some narrative that Goldent St was better without him than with him. 2 championships and finals MVPs later and that narrative is gone. I mean nobody even gives him flack for being the weakest superstar ever, ESPN has been printing out that he chose the hardest route by joining the Warriors :lol
If the Raptors keep up their winning ways without him then Kawhi will have to fight that narrative that they're just as good without him. At the end of the day, I just don't see him jumping TWO of these names: Lebron, KD, AD, and Giannis.

[JakeCuenca]

Durant was hurt one of those years so that's why he didn't get it. And there was some narrative that Goldent St was better without him than with him. 2 championships and finals MVPs later and that narrative is gone. I mean nobody even gives him flack for being the weakest superstar ever, ESPN has been printing out that he chose the hardest route by joining the Warriors :lol
If the Raptors keep up their winning ways without him then Kawhi will have to fight that narrative that they're just as good without him. At the end of the day, I just don't see him jumping TWO of these names: Lebron, KD, AD, and Giannis.

Lol im not saying he deserves it with his rest BS. Also Durant is losing all games without curry so there is that.

Its way to early in the season. Bucks are only two games ahead of the 5th seed. AD is not making first team, at least I dont think he should over Embiid.

Embiid has been an absoulte monster. Im surprised hes not getting that much MVP buzz. Hes looked like the best player in the east by a decent margin.

[Kobe'sAchilles]

Lol im not saying he deserves it with his rest BS. Also Durant is losing all games without curry so there is that.

Its way to early in the season. Bucks are only two games ahead of the 5th seed. AD is not making first team, at least I dont think he should over Embiid.

Embiid has been an absoulte monster. Im surprised hes not getting that much MVP buzz. Hes looked like the best player in the east by a decent margin.

Oh I wanted Embiid since he broke his foot the second time. I was like he's a beast and maybe Philly lost faith, get him at all costs! I actually don't really mind that Kawhi left tbh. I was the only Spurs fan I know (even before he pulled off that bs last year) that didn't want to resign Kawhi. I think he is a phenomenal player and I don't hate him or anything, but I just don't think that any player is worth $43 million a year. I knew that was his going price to stay and I didn't want to cripple us down financially like Houston did. I really like our team going forward assuming we have health and make a few tweaks (getting rid of Patty, drafting a SF, and bringing over Nikola).

[San Antonio Slayer]

MVP would be Kawhi or Giannis depending on their team record.

[r0drig0lac]

Durant was hurt one of those years so that's why he didn't get it. And there was some narrative that Goldent St was better without him than with him. 2 championships and finals MVPs later and that narrative is gone. I mean nobody even gives him flack for being the weakest superstar ever, ESPN has been printing out that he chose the hardest route by joining the Warriors :lol
If the Raptors keep up their winning ways without him then Kawhi will have to fight that narrative that they're just as good without him. At the end of the day, I just don't see him jumping TWO of these names: Lebron, KD, AD, and Giannis.

0% chance for Durant make the 1st team, this will go to Giannis (100%), Lebron, Kawhi and Davis

[Ice009]

Spurs will always and forever be my #1 team (despite me being a whiny cunt about them all the time). I’ve always had a soft spot for the Raptors since I live in Toronto but fuck Kawhi. It sucks because I want the Raptors to do well but I can’t bring myself to root for Kawhi. It’s been very bizarre. It’s like your wife leaving you for your best friend and then they both decide to move in with you. Still not used to seeing him in another jersey. I just hope he fucks off to the Clippers so I can root for the Raps as my second team “normally” instead of thisnweird conflicted situation that we have now

Still miss Danny Green, nice to see him do well here.

Thanks for explaining that. I wasn't sure how high up the Raptors are on your favourite team list. It's a really shitty situation to be in. I've watched most Raptors games (I figured, why not, since I have International League Pass and can watch any team or game, I might as well use it) as I like Lowry and still like Danny Green as a person even though I wanted him traded as a player, I always thought he was a good guy that was loyal to the Spurs, but it really does suck seeing him on another Kawhi and Danny (more so now because he's playing much better this season and I didn't know he had a groin injury for most of last season until after the trade) on another team.

I don't really have a second favourite team as I pretty much only used to follow and/or watch the Spurs during the whole Tim Duncan era. I wasn't interested in watching any other teams back then because I didn't like the way/type of Basketball they played compared to how the Spurs played. I usually only watched the match-ups between the other top teams to kind scout and size them up for when they play against the Spurs. I also don't like following players that are shitty people off the court and selfish players on the court (apart from when the game is on the line, I think it's OK to be a little selfish if you're a Superstar level player when the game in on the line). Anyway, I've been trying to watch Raptors games due to the above reasons, plus I don't mind them overall because I never had a problem with them in the past. I'm also trying to watch some other teams such as Milwaukee due to Giannis being an amazing player and now Bud being their head coach seems to be taking them to another level so far.


It's been more evident this year because he's nowhere near as good as he was for the Spurs as a 1-on-1 player and his 3-point shot is broken..

I didn't mind when he did it with SA due to the lack of alternative options + how dominant he was as a 1 on 1 scorer..

He does not look like the real Kawhi to me right now. 2017 Kawhi was a monster on both ends. He was that dominant. I don't know if it's because of rust, or if he still isn't back to being 100% phyiscally. If he's 100% physically healthy right now, and if he was also 100% healthy the second half of last season like some people have mentioned, then I think uncle dennis and his crew made a big mistake having him sit out the second half of last season because it may have negatively impacted his game (again, this only applies if he was healthy).


Hes about to get paid and tha raps are bending backwards so he can finish the year without any injury

How pissed would the Raptors be if he bolts after catering this much to him throughout the year? If he leaves, I bet they're going to wish that they played him in every back to back and had gotten more of their money's worth out of him.

[duncan2k5]

Why play him when they keep beating the crap out of teams when hes out.

I'm curious though, is he on the bench at least to support his teammates?

Roster u serious? They beat the bulls and the Lakers... And against the bulls they sat their best players... With Kawhi they actually beat the good teams... Without him VS good teams they lost... Let's not pretend as if Kawhi doesn't bring wins... I understand ur mad... But let's not be Thanos and change reality... Toronto is the best team in the league and most likely will make the finals... And Kawhi is the warrior's kryptonite, so who knows what happens there

[duncan2k5]

Amazing how fucking often this dickhead sits out. Never ever plays any back to backs, and even earlier in the season with two days off he apparently needed some rest. He is the most fragile 27-year-old in the league..

U do know it's the raps sitting him out, right? They are being careful with him because they actually have something to play for this year

[duncan2k5]

I got banned on realgm for telling the raptors fans that Kawhi Leonard is an ISO player who can't pass. They seriously thought they were getting a Michael Jordan with LeBron James passing and Kobe Bryant mamba mentality. Now 20% are turning on him. It's only a matter of time before everyone turns on him.

Why didn't we turn on him then? That's like arguing that Duncan isn't as valuable as KG because KG passes the ball more... Do u want to win? Or do u want to look pretty? Our final full season with Kawhi we were 7th in assists and the second most dominant team in the nba

[duncan2k5]

Was watching the Raps play the Celts yesterday and noticed how Kawhi lost some lift and purely relies on length to his shot off. He’s become an outstanding individual player but what a fucking ballhog though.

Ballhog? The guy is taking 18 shots per game... The raptors are averaging more assists this year as a team than they did last year... We are averaging less assists as a team this year than we did when Kawhi had a full season with us... And there is a Toronto article downplaying Kawhi not being on the bench saying he is in the locker room before the game with his teammates, but remains behind for training...

[Mirrornick]

Why didn't we turn on him then? That's like arguing that Duncan isn't as valuable as KG because KG passes the ball more... Do u want to win? Or do u want to look pretty? Our final full season with Kawhi we were 7th in assists and the second most dominant team in the nba

Raptors fans are shook because they very well know that Kawhi Leonard might leave the team and they will be forced to start from middle of no where as their best player(Kyle) is 33 years old. If Kawhi leaves, they would likely stay competitive in the regular season as long as Lowry plays well. But they will get bounced in the 1st round.

if you read the realgm threads on raptors board. You'll see people call out leonard for taking bad shots. Some are calling him worse than DeRozan offensively. The board goes nuts and panics after losing a game lol

bipolar

[gambit1990]

kawhi hasn’t been exactly what he was (so far at least)... he plays like he’s 25 lbs heavier (other than when he’s posting up). idk if he’s not 100 or just not playing at 100. i have noticed less explosiveness, and just seems like moves slower. could be he’s on a new team/taking it easy to start the season. rust from not playing last season?

i’d say so far kawhi has been 80% of what he was. maybe he knows he doesn’t have to push so hard for the raptors to win games.

[Rusty]

Kawhi’s #1 goal is getting that max contract. Winning basketball games isn’t his priority right now. He wants to get his stats while playing as few games as possible to get that contract. Don’t expect him to give full effort in the playoffs where there’s increase chance of getting injured

[Dverde]

Kawhi’s #1 goal is getting that max contract. Winning basketball games isn’t his priority right now. He wants to get his stats while playing as few games as possible to get that contract. Don’t expect him to give full effort in the playoffs where there’s increase chance of getting injured

Agreed.

[NASpurs]

Hey dumbfucks, you could've had Kawhi :lol

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[Amuseddaysleeper]

Kawhi’s #1 goal is getting that max contract. Winning basketball games isn’t his priority right now. He wants to get his stats while playing as few games as possible to get that contract. Don’t expect him to give full effort in the playoffs where there’s increase chance of getting injured

Spurs should’ve given him that contract

[loveforthegame]

How’s he nominated for player of the month?

[JakeCuenca]

How’s he nominated for player of the month?

Travesty. Hes like sitting out games and taking things easy :lmao

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Kawhi advanced stats:


2016-17:

Player Efficiency Rating: 3rd
Real Plus-Minus: 5th
Offensive RPM: 5th
Defensive RPM: 87th
Box Plus-Minus: 7th
Offensive BPM: 9th
Defensive BPM: below 20th
Win Shares per 48: 3rd
True Shooting Pct: 20th
Rebound Pct: below 20th
Steal Pct: 7th
Block Pct: below 20th

2018-19:

Player Efficiency Rating: 19th
Real Plus-Minus: 60th
Offensive RPM: 57th
Defensive RPM: 186th
Box Plus-Minus: below 20th
Offensive BPM: below 20th
Defensive BPM: below 20th
Win Shares per 48: below 20th
True Shooting Pct: below 20th
Rebound Pct: below 20th
Steal Pct: 20th
Block Pct: below 20th

[JakeCuenca]

Kawhi advanced stats:


2016-17:

Player Efficiency Rating: 3rd
Real Plus-Minus: 5th
Offensive RPM: 5th
Defensive RPM: 87th
Box Plus-Minus: 7th
Offensive BPM: 9th
Defensive BPM: below 20th
Win Shares per 48: 3rd
True Shooting Pct: 20th
Rebound Pct: below 20th
Steal Pct: 7th
Block Pct: below 20th

2018-19:

Player Efficiency Rating: 19th
Real Plus-Minus: 60th
Offensive RPM: 57th
Defensive RPM: 186th
Box Plus-Minus: below 20th
Offensive BPM: below 20th
Defensive BPM: below 20th
Win Shares per 48: below 20th
True Shooting Pct: below 20th
Rebound Pct: below 20th
Steal Pct: 20th
Block Pct: below 20th

Its all the back to back resting.

Can you believe this dude is resting after playing 28 minutes....

But plus minus is skwed in general specially if a championship caliber role player like Anunoby is playing behind you.

Still This is starting to be borderline stupid.

No player has taken this level of precaution in any sport ever.

That Quest for the max is starting to sound like a game for dennis. Specially since he wasnt able to acquire any player to manage since who the hell would.

[anon]

.
Just go with the injured angle already, because goddamn your schtick is getting old. He hasn't made a single putback dunk and his 3ball stroke is flatter and shorter than ever. He's about to average his worst 3P% since his rookie season because there's no fucking lift in his legs, it should be obvious to any Spurfan without any schticks to grind. He's damaged goods. Year Two No ACL Rudy Gay has more lift than Year One Bone Spur Kawhi.

[Texas_Ranger]

another day, another Kawhi rest day. This guy is pathetic.

[bic50]

Just go with the injured angle already, because goddamn your schtick is getting old. He hasn't made a single putback dunk and his 3ball stroke is flatter and shorter than ever. He's about to average his worst 3P% since his rookie season because there's no fucking lift in his legs, it should be obvious to any Spurfan without any schticks to grind. He's damaged goods. Year Two No ACL Rudy Gay has more lift than Year One Bone Spur Kawhi.
Delusional

[bic50]

another day, another Kawhi rest day. This guy is pathetic.
Salty af

[anon]

Delusional
About watching an athlete perform, pre and post-injury? This is why narratives and schticks are cancer, it's all fun and games to begin with but when it actually starts to override conclusions made from empirical game data is when a kool-aid circlejerk is born.

[DJR210]

Salty af

That is pretty pathetic though, he's not a 36 year old and he's coming off over a year of rest

[emanueldavidginobili]

It’s hilarious this dudes resting like this. Never had surgery never tore anything. This guy Gordon Hayward snapped his ankle and is playing in back to backs now.

[SpurPadre]

It’s hilarious this dudes resting like this. Never had surgery never tore anything. This guy Gordon Hayward snapped his ankle and is playing in back to backs now.

Don't forget that TP's injury was 100x worse than Kawhi's and he plays back to backs too.

[Dverde]

Nothing says MVP like your team constantly winning without u.

[dontouchmebwo]

Nothing says MVP like your team constantly winning without u.

lol they said the same thing about the Spurs last few years though, "he's not he mvp they're winning games without him" "7-0"

[TDMVPDPOY]

kawhi aint winning mvp if he continues to sit out games

looks like greek freak is going to win it with all those monster stat games, unless they are empty stats due to teams now running up the score, playing at a higher pace

[RD2191]

Nothing says MVP like your team constantly winning without u.

Kawhi wasn't brought in for the regular season, the Raptors brought him in to win in the postseason. Regular season games are gravy.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Nothing says MVP like your team constantly winning without u.

Yup, beating lottery teams without Kawhi :tu

[Amuseddaysleeper]

"Just really the weather," Leonard dead-panned when asked about the biggest difference between playing in San Antonio and Toronto. "As far as basketball, (the Raptors) made it easy for me to transition in. And we’re winning, so that probably makes it a lot easier for me as well. That’s about it."

[TDomination]

"Just really the weather," Leonard dead-panned when asked about the biggest difference between playing in San Antonio and Toronto. "As far as basketball, (the Raptors) made it easy for me to transition in. And we’re winning, so that probably makes it a lot easier for me as well. That’s about it."

He was winning plenty in SA. Doesnt he have like one of the best win loss records for a player? And that didnt come from 10 games in Toronto.

[loveforthegame]

That was a cool story about him and Bamba. :tu

[Amuseddaysleeper]

He was winning plenty in SA. Doesnt he have like one of the best win loss records for a player? And that didnt come from 10 games in Toronto.

He saw the writing was on the wall. It's a horribly constructed roster.

[BackHome]

Fuck KY and his ass wiping Fans.

[daslicer]

He saw the writing was on the wall. It's a horribly constructed roster.

He saw nothing on the wall. Can't compare last year's team to this years team. If he played last year the Spurs would have won 60 games and had a good chance of beating the Warriors. His Uncle wanted out so he wanted out. He's property of his Uncle which will be obvious when he bolts from Toronto. Like I have said before the quality of this board would go up 100x if you just finally went through on your threats and commit suicide.

[Hoops Czar]

He saw the writing was on the wall. It's a horribly constructed roster.
Elite poster.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

He saw nothing on the wall. Can't compare last year's team to this years team. If he played last year the Spurs would have won 60 games and had a good chance of beating the Warriors. His Uncle wanted out so he wanted out. He's property of his Uncle which will be obvious when he bolts from Toronto. Like I have said before the quality of this board would go up 100x if you just finally went through on your threats and commit suicide.

Winning 60 games :lmao

This year’s roster is already worse than last years, LMA plays worse with Kawhi

It’s a shit roster and this season is showing it. Everyone said spurs would comfortably break 50 wins because they added DD when that cleary isn’t the case. Watch the games instead of being a blind homer with shit takes.

“Good chance of beating the warriors” :lmao get out of here with that

[RC_Drunkford]

I just realized he only played 2/3 of all the games they have been playing. Imagine giving this dude the supermax and he sits out every 3rd game

[duncan2k5]

Its all the back to back resting.

Can you believe this dude is resting after playing 28 minutes....

But plus minus is skwed in general specially if a championship caliber role player like Anunoby is playing behind you.

Still This is starting to be borderline stupid.

No player has taken this level of precaution in any sport ever.

That Quest for the max is starting to sound like a game for dennis. Specially since he wasnt able to acquire any player to manage since who the hell would.

So when it happens in SA, it is Pop doing it and we get praised as an organization that is very precautions with injuries... When it happens in another team, it is the player making the decision to sit out because they are being spiteful... Interesting how that works

[bklynspursfan]

Winning 60 games :lmao

This year’s roster is already worse than last years, LMA plays worse with Kawhi

It’s a shit roster and this season is showing it. Everyone said spurs would comfortably break 50 wins because they added DD when that cleary isn’t the case. Watch the games instead of being a blind homer with shit takes.

“Good chance of beating the warriors” :lmao get out of here with that

You don't think we can win 13 more games last season with Kawhi playing? That's amusing

[Amuseddaysleeper]

You don't think we can win 13 more games last season with Kawhi playing? That's amusing

LMA would’ve played worse, with Kawhi we win 7 more games, no way in hell was that a 60 win team and no guarantee kawhi wouldve played as well as he did in 2017.

[daslicer]

Winning 60 games :lmao

This year’s roster is already worse than last years, LMA plays worse with Kawhi

It’s a shit roster and this season is showing it. Everyone said spurs would comfortably break 50 wins because they added DD when that cleary isn’t the case. Watch the games instead of being a blind homer with shit takes.

“Good chance of beating the warriors” :lmao get out of here with that

1. :lol Why wouldn't they have won 60 games last year considering they won 47 with all the injuries they had? You can't be that stupid to believe had Kawhi played last year the Spurs would not have been winning around 60 games. They lost around 10-11 games last year simply because they didn't have a closer in the 4th quarter to finish off teams. Kawhi would have solved that problem.


2. Yeah I stand by my words the Spurs had a good chance of beating the Warriors last year if Kawhi played. Spurs the last few years with Kawhi was a matchup problem for the Warriors. Green,Kawhi and even Kyle Anderson matched up well defensively with the Warriors on the perimeter. Spurs overall had 4 big wings in Gay,Kawhi,Anderson,Green along with Manu they could have thrown at the Warriors. Also the Spurs had a big defensive guard in Dejounte. Most teams only have 1 or 2 big wing defenders at best while the Spurs had 4 along with a long defensive guard in Dejounte. Factor in the Spurs having a 20-10 big in LMA last year which in return creates a matchup problem for the Warriors. Spurs were set up to defensively guard the Warriors on the perimeter which is something very few teams can do along with having an offensive game of pounding the ball inside to Kawhi/LMA. Dumb fucks like you want to pretend the Spurs never had a chance to simply feel better about losing Kawhi.

3. You deflected like a bitch by bringing up this year's roster which is totally different than last year's roster. There is no doubt this team is not constructed well and that's due to Kawhi wanting out and losing Danny Green in the process. That move decimated a big chunk of the Spurs defense on the perimeter along with losing Kyle Anderson in FA. Spurs also lost Manu who was their the bench the last 10 years. The hope was from a lot of people that Dejounte was going to make a leap this year and have a break out season which was derailed by the ACL tear. Also there was great hope that Lonnie Walker was going to be contributor off the bench this year. Granted I know your stupid ass will say Pop doesn't play rookies but there was indications that Walker was going to have a role this year up until the injury happened.

4. :lol You are the same idiot that said after the Spurs lost game 4 to the Grizz in 2017 that the 2017 team was the worst Spurs team in years. In your words they were worse than the 2011 team which shows you don't know what the fuck you are talking about since the 2017 team went to the WCF.



5. You are the same guy who kept on screaming when the Spurs were up in game 1 in the WCF against the Warriors that they were going to blow the lead and when Kawhi got hurt your stupid ass immediately celebrated with joy simply because you wanted to be right in the worst way. Spurs could win 30 games in a row and you would still be bitching about the Spurs not being elite. Can't take your views seriously since you are the pessimistic guy who believes everyday is a bad day even if it's sunny and warm outside.

6. The bold points are in bold just to illustrate to people that you are straight up retarded.

7. Like I said before go commit suicide. It will be good for you and the rest of this board.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

1. :lol Why wouldn't they have won 60 games last year considering they won 47 with all the injuries they had? You can't be that stupid to believe had Kawhi played last year the Spurs would not have been winning around 60 games. They lost around 10-11 games last year simply because they didn't have a closer in the 4th quarter to finish off teams. Kawhi would have solved that problem.



2. Yeah I stand by my words the Spurs had a good chance of beating the Warriors last year if Kawhi played. Spurs the last few years with Kawhi was a matchup problem for the Warriors. Green,Kawhi and even Kyle Anderson matched up well defensively with the Warriors on the perimeter. Spurs overall had 4 big wings in Gay,Kawhi,Anderson,Green along with Manu they could have thrown at the Warriors. Also the Spurs had a big defensive guard in Dejounte. Most teams only have 1 or 2 big wing defenders at best while the Spurs had 4 along with a long defensive guard in Dejounte. Factor in the Spurs having a 20-10 big in LMA last year which in return creates a matchup problem for the Warriors. Spurs were set up to defensively guard the Warriors on the perimeter which is something very few teams can do along with having an offensive game of pounding the ball inside to Kawhi/LMA. Dumb fucks like you want to pretend the Spurs never had a chance to simply feel better about losing Kawhi.

3. You deflected like a bitch by bringing up this year's roster which is totally different than last year's roster. There is no doubt this team is not constructed well and that's due to Kawhi wanting out and losing Danny Green in the process. That move decimated a big chunk of the Spurs defense on the perimeter along with losing Kyle Anderson in FA. Spurs also lost Manu who was their the bench the last 10 years. The hope was from a lot of people that Dejounte was going to make a leap this year and have a break out season which was derailed by the ACL tear. Also there was great hope that Lonnie Walker was going to be contributor off the bench this year. Granted I know your stupid ass will say Pop doesn't play rookies but there was indications that Walker was going to have a role this year up until the injury happened.

4. :lol You are the same idiot that said after the Spurs lost game 4 to the Grizz in 2017 that the 2017 team was the worst Spurs team in years. In your words they were worse than the 2011 team which shows you don't know what the fuck you are talking about since the 2017 team went to the WCF.



5. You are the same guy who kept on screaming when the Spurs were up in game 1 in the WCF against the Warriors that they were going to blow the lead and when Kawhi got hurt your stupid ass immediately celebrated with joy simply because you wanted to be right in the worst way. Spurs could win 30 games in a row and you would still be bitching about the Spurs not being elite. Can't take your views seriously since you are the pessimistic guy who believes everyday is a bad day even if it's sunny and warm outside.

6. The bold points are in bold just to illustrate to people that you are straight up retarded.

7. Like I said before go commit suicide. It will be good for you and the rest of this board.

You’re legit a spastic homer if you think the spurs would’ve beaten the warriors last year even with Kawhi. Absolute moron.

Do your parents a favour and kill yourself, god knows they’ve suffered long enough with the cum stain that is daslicer

[daslicer]

You’re legit a spastic homer if you think the spurs would’ve beaten the warriors last year even with Kawhi. Absolute moron.

Do your parents a favour and kill yourself, god knows they’ve suffered long enough with the cum stain that is daslicer

:lol How am I a spastic homer. I can admit right now there is a high chance this Spurs team could miss the playoffs and at best is a 7-8th seed. I just don't respect you because you are just an idiot that screams all day the sky is falling but doesn't have good reasoning for it. Even in 2014 during the playoffs you had stupid ass threads screaming the Spurs were not going to win it all. I can't take you seriously. The saying a broke clock is right twice a day applies to you but like a broke clock you just need to be thrown in the garbage since you are trash.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

:lol How am I a spastic homer. I can admit right now there is a high chance this Spurs team could miss the playoffs and at best is a 7-8th seed. I just don't respect you because you are just an idiot that screams all day the sky is falling but doesn't have good reasoning for it. Even in 2014 during the playoffs you had stupid ass threads screaming the Spurs were not going to win it all. I can't take you seriously. The saying a broke clock is right twice a day applies to you but like a broke clock you just need to be thrown in the garbage since you are trash.

You’re pathetic, total homer

Spurs beating the warriors last year with Kawhi :lmao

Dumbass fucking idiot :lmao

[Keepin' it real]

Tendinopathy is a mysterious unpredictable disease. Poor Kenwi. Poor, poor Kenwi.

[daslicer]

You’re pathetic, total homer

Spurs beating the warriors last year with Kawhi :lmao

Dumbass fucking idiot :lmao

They would have a had a good chance considering they matched up the best with the Warriors the last few years. :lol Shame on me for a believing a team that had the best W-L record against the Warriors the last few years would have had a chance of beating them if their MVP level player decided to play. Like I said before go commit suicide you would be a lot more happier.

[J_Paco]

:lol How am I a spastic homer. I can admit right now there is a high chance this Spurs team could miss the playoffs and at best is a 7-8th seed. I just don't respect you because you are just an idiot that screams all day the sky is falling but doesn't have good reasoning for it. Even in 2014 during the playoffs you had stupid ass threads screaming the Spurs were not going to win it all. I can't take you seriously. The saying a broke clock is right twice a day applies to you but like a broke clock you just need to be thrown in the garbage since you are trash.


Daslicer, please don't hurt 'em.

Too late. You went in on his ass with no Vaseline, damn.

:rollin:rollin:rollin

[Amuseddaysleeper]

They would have a had a good chance considering they matched up the best with the Warriors the last few years. :lol Shame on me for a believing a team that had the best W-L record against the Warriors the last few years would have had a chance of beating them if their MVP level player decided to play. Like I said before go commit suicide you would be a lot more happier.

Dude you’re so fucking dumb

Playoff warriors >>>> regular season warriors

You honestly have to be a completely fucking idiot to think the spurs could beat the warriors in a series last year even with Kawhi. Just what the fuck. I know you’re dumb as fuck and a spastic homer with shit takes but come on now.
I assume you’re just a troll at this point.

[daslicer]

Dude you’re so fucking dumb

Playoff warriors >>>> regular season warriors

You honestly have to be a completely fucking idiot to think the spurs could beat the warriors in a series last year even with Kawhi. Just what the fuck. I know you’re dumb as fuck and a spastic homer with shit takes but come on now.
I assume you’re just a troll at this point.

:lol Wow just wow this is coming from the same guy who believed the 2011 Spurs team was more talented than the 2017 Spurs team. I have exposed you in this thread. It's obvious to everybody that you are retarded. Your desperate attempts to deny it is like a Kardashian denying that she has been passed around by 100 black guys.

[J_Paco]

:lol Wow just wow this is coming from the same guy who believed the 2011 Spurs team was more talented than the 2017 Spurs team. I have exposed you in this thread. It's obvious to everybody that you are retarded. Your desperate attempts to deny it is like a Kardashian denying that she has been passed around by 100 black guys.

:lmao:lmao:lmao

[John B]

Hey dumbfucks, you could've had Kawhi :lol

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Or we could’ve swapped with TWolves??

[Kobe'sAchilles]

Like I said earlier, I didn't want to sign him for the supermax. He's a great player no doubt but not worth $43 million. Especially if he's going to sit out a third of the season. At least harden played all 82 games. Dude never had surgery and isn't even injured this year (by his own words) and is still resting. And that's after coming off an entire season of not playing. He has no dog in him anymore. Maybe once he gets paid he will get it back but he's too scared right now.

[duncan2k5]

Like I said earlier, I didn't want to sign him for the supermax. He's a great player no doubt but not worth $43 million. Especially if he's going to sit out a third of the season. At least harden played all 82 games. Dude never had surgery and isn't even injured this year (by his own words) and is still resting. And that's after coming off an entire season of not playing. He has no dog in him anymore. Maybe once he gets paid he will get it back but he's too scared right now.

Team is resting him... Spurs aren't the only team cautious about their stars

[Kobe'sAchilles]

Team is resting him... Spurs aren't the only team cautious about their stars
I didnt like resting him either when he was on the Spurs. Plus he did play back to backs with us. If hes not injured then what are you being careful about? You don't rest Kobe or Jordan or prime Duncan. Different era for sure but if you get paid that much and have all of these amenities, I expect you to play. To me, he just lost his dog and he isn't showing me any signs of getting it back.

[cpds421]

Nephew’s sister just made it clear that he’s going to LA. She was wearing the all star jersey instead of the raptors jersey, when they played against the Lakers a couple of weeks back.

[anon]

Nephew’s sister just made it clear that he’s going to LA. She was wearing the all star jersey instead of the raptors jersey, when they played against the Lakers a couple of weeks back.
Leonard and Danny to Charlotte to team up with Kemba and Tony confirmed.

[Genovaswitness]

Nephew’s sister just made it clear that he’s going to LA. She was wearing the all star jersey instead of the raptors jersey, when they played against the Lakers a couple of weeks back.

fuckin crackhead. hope kawhi tears his achilles soon

[Indianman]

fuckin crackhead. hope kawhi tears his achilles soon

Fuck his ACL up too while he's at it.

[spursparker9]

27 pts, 10 rebs, 2 asts, 2 stls in 30mins WIN against Wiz

[John B]

27 pts, 10 rebs, 2 asts, 2 stls in 30mins WIN against Wiz
Wizards though :lol:lol:lol

[gospursgojas]

27 pts, 10 rebs, 2 asts, 2 stls in 30mins WIN against Wiz

Sounds like he needs the next 3 games off for injury prevention.

[emanueldavidginobili]

Dude was putting together moves I haven’t seen from him, I was shocked at the ball handling he displayed, filthy game from him.

[Hoops Czar]

27 pts, 10 rebs, 2 asts, 2 stls in 30mins WIN against Wiz
Yeah, but how is his hops? I heard he can't jump as high post injury.

[emanueldavidginobili]

https://youtu.be/eSsDUyZAgzA

[MoSpur02]

This guy put himself before the entire organization. He quit on the team. He caused all the guys on a very good team to waste a season because he didn't wanna play anymore. He wasn't injured the entire season. I can't and will never respect a player like that.

[spurs10]

This guy put himself before the entire organization. He quit on the team. He caused all the guys on a very good team to waste a season because he didn't wanna play anymore. He wasn't injured the entire season. I can't and will never respect a player like that. Hear, hear!

[Hoops Czar]

This guy put himself before the entire organization. He quit on the team. He caused all the guys on a very good team to waste a season because he didn't wanna play anymore. He wasn't injured the entire season. I can't and will never respect a player like that.

https://clutchpoints.com/spurs-rumors-kawhi-leonard-expressed-commitment-teammates-meeting-not-organization/


“I had heard, for the aggregators who get ahold of this, I heard that Kawhi had said something about like ‘I’ll do anything for all you guys in this room, but not this organization.’ That what I heard he had said. But he stood his ground.

I'm sure Wright is just another internet hack like McDonald or Young because his source conflicts with your smallminded narrative that it's easier to blame the hated player than the gold standard that is the Spurs organization and it will give you some peace of mind while you're watching him trash the league in a uniform other than the Silver & black. We'll also ignore the fact LMA, Simmons, Dedmon, West, Lee, probably Green and Anderson all wanted out of a bad situation.

Should he have come back to support his teammates? Maybe, but the Spurs were getting bounced in the first round with or without Kawhi regardless. Had he comeback and signed a supermax with the Spurs, You'd be very supportive and wouldn't give a flying shit about what happened last year. Also, let me remind you he did come back to play nine games so it wasn't like he was faking the season away so he could get the hell out of town. He was actually injured. So to be clear, he didn't quit on his teammates, he quit on the organization.

[spursparker9]

https://youtu.be/eSsDUyZAgzA

His dribble dribble dribble between the legs is slowing reaching Harden's level

[MVPCues]

Dude was putting together moves I haven’t seen from him, I was shocked at the ball handling he displayed, filthy game from him.

You made me watch the video. Wow, you are right, brilliant stuff. Spurs really were holding him back. I'm gonna have to watch me some Raptors games.... uh...<snaps out of it>..no....still fuck him.

[rogcl1]

https://clutchpoints.com/spurs-rumors-kawhi-leonard-expressed-commitment-teammates-meeting-not-organization/



I'm sure Wright is just another internet hack like McDonald or Young because his source conflicts with your smallminded narrative that it's easier to blame the hated player than the gold standard that is the Spurs organization and it will give you some peace of mind while you're watching him trash the league in a uniform other than the Silver & black. We'll also ignore the fact LMA, Simmons, Dedmon, West, Lee, probably Green and Anderson all wanted out of a bad situation.

Should he have come back to support his teammates? Maybe, but the Spurs were getting bounced in the first round with or without Kawhi regardless. Had he comeback and signed a supermax with the Spurs, You'd be very supportive and wouldn't give a flying shit about what happened last year. Also, let me remind you he did come back to play nine games so it wasn't like he was faking the season away so he could get the hell out of town. He was actually injured. So to be clear, he didn't quit on his teammates, he quit on the organization.

Quit is Quit. He quit.

[SAGirl]

https://youtu.be/eSsDUyZAgzA
He’s so talented he makes it look easy.

[Kobe'sAchilles]

22 shot attempts while the next closest person was at 11 attempts. Only had 2 assists. Dude is a great one on one player offensively, but not a great team player yet. Maybe he can add that to his game still?

[rasuo214]

22 shot attempts while the next closest person was at 11 attempts. Only had 2 assists. Dude is a great one on one player offensively, but not a great team player yet. Maybe he can add that to his game still?

Only 18.4 FGA per game. His highest on the Spurs was 17.7

For comparison sake, Derozan has 19.3, LMA 16.8.

[Spurs Homer]

Kobe raped, period.
Kawhi quit, period.

[ECOV]

https://clutchpoints.com/spurs-rumors-kawhi-leonard-expressed-commitment-teammates-meeting-not-organization/



I'm sure Wright is just another internet hack like McDonald or Young because his source conflicts with your smallminded narrative that it's easier to blame the hated player than the gold standard that is the Spurs organization and it will give you some peace of mind while you're watching him trash the league in a uniform other than the Silver & black. We'll also ignore the fact LMA, Simmons, Dedmon, West, Lee, probably Green and Anderson all wanted out of a bad situation.

Should he have come back to support his teammates? Maybe, but the Spurs were getting bounced in the first round with or without Kawhi regardless. Had he comeback and signed a supermax with the Spurs, You'd be very supportive and wouldn't give a flying shit about what happened last year. Also, let me remind you he did come back to play nine games so it wasn't like he was faking the season away so he could get the hell out of town. He was actually injured. So to be clear, he didn't quit on his teammates, he quit on the organization.

Some people just can't handle the spurs way of winning

[Kobe'sAchilles]

Only 18.4 FGA per game. His highest on the Spurs was 17.7

For comparison sake, Derozan has 19.3, LMA 16.8.
It's not really the shot attempt number for me, it's more of the fact that he is averaging way more than the next person and barely averaging 3 assists a game. Toronto has a free flowing offense and is built like the 2015 Spurs where they spread the shots around. If you take out Kawhi, then you notice that everybody's shot attempts are in the same ball park. 18.4 attempts is a lot for this system.
The Spurs run an iso system. That's the main complaint around here, that we iso ball too much in a modern NBA which says that iso ball is bad. But DeRozan is averaging double Kawhi's assists while only shooting one more shot a game. I guess I'm just disappointed in Kawhi. I thought he would've evolved and learn how to get other players more involved and continue to strive for greatness. But to me it seems like he's content where he is, a Bernard King with better defense (which isn't a bad).

[ducks]

https://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN/status/1066492628357836800?s=20
Leonard not leader ask pop

[NASpurs]

:rollinBullet dodged

http://www2.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/markelle-fultz-sixers-trade-injury-shoulder-nba-76ers-raymond-brothers-20181124.html


If the 76ers have tired of this saga and are considering trading Fultz, and multiple sources said they are, his trade value must have declined a great deal since the start of the season.The team might be able to get a late first-round pick for Fultz from a desperate club willing to take a chance, or the Sixers could try for a player with an expiring contract. That would enable them to avoid paying the $9.7 million that Fultz is guaranteed for next season.

[Kobe'sAchilles]

:rollinBullet dodged

http://www2.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/markelle-fultz-sixers-trade-injury-shoulder-nba-76ers-raymond-brothers-20181124.html
I would be willing to trade our Toronto pick for him

[Fusternino]

Only would've wanted Fultz if he was used to match salary instead of Chandler. Bust written all over him.

[UZER]

https://youtu.be/g9ImIFYTBNA
Yeah, Guy sucks, don't know how we won with him. Such a pis poor leader all those times we won. Don't know WHY he wanted to be paid or respected by Pop Players or Front Office. We DODGE A BULLET.

Wow. Seeing thows highlights shows me Kawhi doesn’t move nearly the same as he used to. He’s not as active and disruptive defensively. He used to be like a shut down corner that could take one whole side of the field away, in his case the court.

He also doesn’t have the same lift. He never really had a springy vertical, but if you look at his takeoffs on the break, it’s not the same. Of course he can still dunk with ease because of his wingspan. But the lift is definitely diminished.

Maybe he’s really taking his comeback slowly, or trying to make sure he gets the max contract by avoiding injury. But it’s not the same Kawhi physically.

[tmtcsc]

Wow. Seeing thows highlights shows me Kawhi doesn’t move nearly the same as he used to. He’s not as active and disruptive defensively. He used to be like a shut down corner that could take one whole side of the field away, in his case the court.

He also doesn’t have the same lift. He never really had a springy vertical, but if you look at his takeoffs on the break, it’s not the same. Of course he can still dunk with ease because of his wingspan. But the lift is definitely diminished.

Maybe he’s really taking his comeback slowly, or trying to make sure he gets the max contract by avoiding injury. But it’s not the same Kawhi physically.

I think your observations are on point. We had the best defensive version of Kawhi. His footwork and skills have improved but he's physically not the same. And...Fuck him.

[bklynspursfan]

He joins the great Matt Bonner :reading

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-gnH9EXsAAnoSU.jpg

[Joseph Kony]

new balance :lmao :lmao :lmao

[MoSpur02]

From Jordan to New Balance. Uncle Dennis and his group are doing a great job.

[K...]

New balance, for when you aren't too proud to accept checks for not working

[JakeCuenca]

Dennis is really screwing up here. The back to back rest is hurting his award chances, and now instead of waiting out the season because hes more than likely going to finish all NBA he signs with New balance.

Raptors fans are still delusional. They refuse to believe his resting is all Dennis approved :lol

[gambit1990]

some NB shoes actually look slick. will never buy them though, they contribute way too much $ to the GOP.

[daslicer]

I would liked to laugh at the New Balance deal but I have to find out the actual numbers of the deal. If Kawhi gets a Curry like Under Armour deal then it’s a good deal.

[gambit1990]

nike actually contributes way too much to the GOP too... but they actually make donations to the democrats as well.

[loveforthegame]

Such a Leonard move. lol.

[BatManu20]

Going from Jordan Brand to New Balance is like going from a Ferrari to a Prius :rollin

Great job Uncle Fuckhead :tu

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[loveforthegame]

Leonard says it’s not official (yet?) at media just now.

[bklynspursfan]

Leonard says it’s not official (yet?) at media just now.

Probably cause he was caught off guard not realizing Dennis signed the papers already

[marinoman]

1067845989069840384

[r0drig0lac]

https://twitter.com/TimBontemps/status/1067853419652755457

[SPURt]

Twitter is killing him. I’ve never seen an MVP caliber player do such weird things PR wise. Definitely entertaining.

[slick'81]

Isn't that the matt bonner shoe lol

[JeffDuncan]

New Balance has the P.F. Flyers brand. Anybody besides me remember them?

[resistanze]

From Jordan to MAGA shoes :lmao

[bklynspursfan]

Isn't that the matt bonner shoe lol

always will be

[NASpurs]

Didn’t New Balance represent Matt Bonner?

holy shit :lmao

*edit* nvm beaten but hilarious still

[Kool Bob Love]

From Jordan to MAGA shoes :lmao
Hmmmm cheap made in china sneakers or high quality American made product? Dumbass.

[Kool Bob Love]

1067845989069840384
Hi tops arent my thing but these were made in America. I’m wit it. :tu

[Rusty]

wtf is going on here?:lol

[timvp]

Made in America shoes? Interesting. Maybe there was something to that fake rumor about political differences being a root cause of the falling out :drunk



Seriously though, can't judge until we see details. If New Balance included stock shares or part ownership and they see Nephew as their Curry, that's one thing and could be great for both companies (New Balance and Uncle Dennis, LLC) if he returns to greatness.

If this is a standard shoe deal, you'd have to think the big players in the shoe industry are scared off by something. And that "something" would most likely be injury-related rather than poor PR-related.

[BatManu20]

Introducing the Kawhi 1’s



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DtHSliHW0AAj-n8?format=jpg&name=small

[BatManu20]

The new Klaw logo


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DtHBNbFUwAASin2?format=jpg&name=240x240

[phxspurfan]

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25400965/kawhi-leonard-toronto-raptors-new-balance-agree-shoe-deal

Suits Kawhi, to be sponsored by some running shoes :rollin

[Chucho]

nike actually contributes way too much to the GOP too... but they actually make donations to the democrats as well.


Nike is also one of the most profitable slave plantations in the world, only behind Apple and Starbucks. Are you a customer of those brands? Seems like your brand loyalty is in tune with your political viewpoint, you'd assume they are with your moral standards too.

Real question, no troll attempt or no silly reply setup intended because I'm honestly the same way for a lot of brands.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

New Balance. Isn't that what nurses wear while on shift?

Sweet looking shoes!

[bklynspursfan]

1067843340417331201

1067846137107935232

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[spurs10]

As the Red Mamba would say, "Wickedawesome!"

[bklynspursfan]

1067841124004433920

[cd98]

Ugh. Kawhi needs to stop listening to Uncle. Grampa shoe company? He is not the player to try and take the lamest, oldest shoe on the market and make it cool.

[RD2191]

Introducing the Kawhi 1’s



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DtHSliHW0AAj-n8?format=jpg&name=small

AIR BBQ 1s tbh

[toki9]

A quote from Slam's report: "Now in the wake of that decision the 27 year old will be the face of NB’s burgeoning basketball division. Other than working with Leonard, they have a new deal with Darius Bazley, employing him as an intern at the company while he prepares for his unique path to the NBA."

[RD2191]

1067841124004433920

Fuck that's funny :lmao

[Jsmoothexpress]

1067841124004433920
Did Don Harris really cook dude?

[resistanze]

1067841124004433920

:rollin

[resistanze]

Hmmmm cheap made in china sneakers or high quality American made product? Dumbass.

Tiki torch sneakers :lmao

[hater]

https://twitter.com/brkicks/status/1067844453023531009?s=21

:lmao Mute Cancer

[hater]

https://twitter.com/wells_p/status/1067857353247059968?s=21

[phxspurfan]

1067841124004433920

:clap

[Jsmoothexpress]

Does Kawhi own the rights to the Klaw logo?

[Budkin]

:lmao New Balance??

[adonis827]

A quote from Slam's report: "Now in the wake of that decision the 27 year old will be the face of NB’s burgeoning basketball division. Other than working with Leonard, they have a new deal with Darius Bazley, employing him as an intern at the company while he prepares for his unique path to the NBA."

Matt Bonner should unretire. NB is back

[Spurs9]

Good thing Dennis got him out of SA so he could ink that deal.

[SAGirl]

https://twitter.com/TimBontemps/status/1067853419652755457
Him walking in socks bc of the SHAME... :lol :troll

[SAGirl]

Ugh. Kawhi needs to stop listening to Uncle. Grampa shoe company? He is not the player to try and take the lamest, oldest shoe on the market and make it cool.
:lmao

[cd98]

Good thing Dennis got him out of SA so he could ink that deal.

Yes, technically nothing would be worse than Kawhi inking that deal as a Spur. It would put the nail in the coffin for the "Spurs are boring" mantra.

[MoSpur02]

YGHI or whatever his name is already in line ready to buy them shoes.

[phxspurfan]

LOL Kawhitter walking around in socks because his handlers mismanaged an already shitty shoe deal. How classic.


Only thing he needs now is to slip in the shower and bust his quad again like those MLB players do :lol

[toki9]

Does Kawhi own the rights to the Klaw logo?

I would guess Nike does. Nike owns the "RF" logo/insignia--so if they have ownership over something like that, I would think that they would also have ownership over every IP/Logo/brand that comes out under their brand.

[exstatic]

YGHI or whatever his name is already in line ready to buy them shoes.

Just call him Jabari...

[Kobe'sAchilles]

When I was in middle school/high school everybody into sports knew the shoe game. I remember the shoe wars growing up between reebok and Nike. I remember And 1 busting out of nowhere and everyone had their mixtapes and were copying their moves and buying their stuff. I remember Adidas putting out Telfairs shoe and how everyone was in line for those, or Tmacs or Lil Penny or AI. Jordans were always hot of course and so are Kobe's. To this day I still own some Kyries and Lebrons and some Js. But New Balance? What am I, an old white retired man jogging 2 mph on the sidewalk? The pay is good I'm sure and for that amount of money I would wear New Balance I guess. But man I wouldn't rep them unless I was getting paid. New Balance is just a no for any baller.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

are they velcro?

[Jsmoothexpress]

I would guess Nike does. Nike owns the "RF" logo/insignia--so if they have ownership over something like that, I would think that they would also have ownership over every IP/Logo/brand that comes out under their brand.
That’s tragic for Lil buddy. I would’ve got ownership and rights to that shit.

[benefactor]

:lol...where you at asswiper? Get in here and spin this shit.

[duncan2k5]

I didnt like resting him either when he was on the Spurs. Plus he did play back to backs with us. If hes not injured then what are you being careful about? You don't rest Kobe or Jordan or prime Duncan. Different era for sure but if you get paid that much and have all of these amenities, I expect you to play. To me, he just lost his dog and he isn't showing me any signs of getting it back.

Prime Duncan rested under Pop also... My point is u are acting as if Kawhi chose not to play when he was here... No one made it an issue when pop rested him... Matter of fact ppl were mad at Pop... Not Kawhi... So why are u mad at Kawhi now? It's the coaches making the decision not to play him same as Pop did when he was here

[DMC]

Doesn't matter. He'll demand a trade to Nike by mid season as he refuses to wear the New Balance shoes.

[RC_Drunkford]

Prime Duncan rested under Pop also... My point is u are acting as if Kawhi chose not to play when he was here... No one made it an issue when pop rested him... Matter of fact ppl were mad at Pop... Not Kawhi... So why are u mad at Kawhi now? It's the coaches making the decision not to play him same as Pop did when he was here

Prime Duncan never had rest games dumbass. Stop gargling Kawhi's nutsack so much

[duncan2k5]

Wow. Seeing thows highlights shows me Kawhi doesn’t move nearly the same as he used to. He’s not as active and disruptive defensively. He used to be like a shut down corner that could take one whole side of the field away, in his case the court.

He also doesn’t have the same lift. He never really had a springy vertical, but if you look at his takeoffs on the break, it’s not the same. Of course he can still dunk with ease because of his wingspan. But the lift is definitely diminished.

Maybe he’s really taking his comeback slowly, or trying to make sure he gets the max contract by avoiding injury. But it’s not the same Kawhi physically.

So clearly he was injured... And not faking it like most of the board is saying...

[duncan2k5]

Prime Duncan never had rest games dumbass. Stop gargling Kawhi's nutsack so much

What year did Duncan's prime end?

[Kobe'sAchilles]

Prime Duncan rested under Pop also... My point is u are acting as if Kawhi chose not to play when he was here... No one made it an issue when pop rested him... Matter of fact ppl were mad at Pop... Not Kawhi... So why are u mad at Kawhi now? It's the coaches making the decision not to play him same as Pop did when he was here
what is happening now is on him. He is the one deciding it. Nobody else. He isn't hurt and he doesn't play. Even you admit that. I'm not mad at Kawhi either though, I just don't think he's worth $43 million a year. I gave you my 2 players I thought were worth it in today's NBA and told you why. They are the only two players who have prven they can lead a team to a title. NOBODY else in the NBA has proven that.
Sidenote: Did you just say that Pop rested Tim early on? How many times can a person be wrong? Tim averaged 39 minutes a game his first 6 seasons with the Spurs. He played in nearly every game then too. He got hurt for 2 years when he played only 66 and 68 games in 03-04, but then he played in 80 games in 2005 and 2006. Tim Played ELEVEN years before getting to the few minutes that Kawhi played. Tim literally only has 4 seasons where he played as few games in a season as Kawhi's career high.

[bklynspursfan]

:lol Twitter is having a field day with this

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[RsxPiimp]

new balance has some really nice shoes tbh. some of their j crew exclusives are good.

[exstatic]

Prime Duncan rested under Pop also... My point is u are acting as if Kawhi chose not to play when he was here... No one made it an issue when pop rested him... Matter of fact ppl were mad at Pop... Not Kawhi... So why are u mad at Kawhi now? It's the coaches making the decision not to play him same as Pop did when he was here

Wrong. Prime Duncan was NOT rested. Pop didn't start really resting him until he was 35. Hell, in his age 32 season, he played 75 games, 34 mpg, and at age 33, played 76 games, 31 mpg.

[Kurgan]

What year did Duncan's prime end?

From 2001 to 2003, Duncan played 82 games every season, averaging around 40 minutes per game. TD was well into his 30s when Pop first started the resting gimmick.

[bklynspursfan]

While terms have not been disclosed, industry expectations are that New Balance is likely to have offered significantly more than $5 million per year. That range would be on par with the Jordan Brand extension that Leonard turned down earlier this spring, a four-year deal worth up to $22 million.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25400965/kawhi-leonard-toronto-raptors-new-balance-agree-shoe-deal?platform=amp&__twitter_impression=true

[spurs1990]

Ugh... I'm in my 40s so New Balance is literally my go-to tennis shoe to wear for years now.

For them to sign Leonard as their signature athlete feels like a kick in the pants.

Oh well, maybe Jordan will match the contract in the coming week.

[timvp]

I'm trying to figure out the Uncle Dennis angle here. If Nephew is healthy, why not play out the season to prove Nephew's health, sign with the Lakers (or I guess the Clippers, even) and then bank what would have to be a huge shoe deal? Signing a shoe deal at this point when his long-term status is still iffy and he's playing in NBA Siberia is a strange business decision.

[duncan2k5]

Wrong. Prime Duncan was NOT rested. Pop didn't start really resting him until he was 35. Hell, in his age 32 season, he played 75 games, 34 mpg, and at age 33, played 76 games, 31 mpg.

The question is prime duncan resting...wat age did his prime end according to you?

[TheGreatYacht]

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If Don Harris wasn't a nobody, maybe New Balance would make him the "Cuckolded by TSpence 1s"

[TheGreatYacht]

I'm trying to figure out the Uncle Dennis angle here. If Nephew is healthy, why not play out the season to prove Nephew's health, sign with the Lakers (or I guess the Clippers, even) and then bank what would have to be a huge shoe deal? Signing a shoe deal at this point when his long-term status is still iffy and he's playing in NBA Siberia is a strange business decision.
Maybe he likes what the Raptors have going for them and has made a decision to stay. Might as well get the shoe deal done and over. NBA Siberia is looking a lot nicer than NBA Mexico (SA) too..

[Dex]

I'm trying to figure out the Uncle Dennis angle here. If Nephew is healthy, why not play out the season to prove Nephew's health, sign with the Lakers (or I guess the Clippers, even) and then bank what would have to be a huge shoe deal? Signing a shoe deal at this point when his long-term status is still iffy and he's playing in NBA Siberia is a strange business decision.

Maybe Uncle Dennis is just a shitty businessman?

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/mobile/000/022/138/ollesafeee.jpg

[duncan2k5]

From 2001 to 2003, Duncan played 82 games every season, averaging around 40 minutes per game. TD was well into his 30s when Pop first started the resting gimmick.

But if he had the same mentality, duncan at 25 would have been rested...same as kawhi...for goodness sakes pop was resting a 20 year old murray that came off a minor injury, and will probably do the same with lonnie...its ok when pop and kerr does it, but unnacceptable when kawhi gets rested after being out a year?

[duncan2k5]

I'm trying to figure out the Uncle Dennis angle here. If Nephew is healthy, why not play out the season to prove Nephew's health, sign with the Lakers (or I guess the Clippers, even) and then bank what would have to be a huge shoe deal? Signing a shoe deal at this point when his long-term status is still iffy and he's playing in NBA Siberia is a strange business decision.

The coach is taking it easy to ztart the season...smart move...clearly isnt about money with kawhi...more about health and winning

[Realdeal1]

Why are kawhi fan boys still here? Shouldn't you guys be on the raptor forums?

[TheGreatYacht]

The coach is taking it easy to ztart the season...smart move...clearly isnt about money with kawhi...more about health and winning
Kawhi IS about winning. Which is why him and Pop agreed to disagree and parted ways.

[BillMc]

I'm trying to figure out the Uncle Dennis angle here. If Nephew is healthy, why not play out the season to prove Nephew's health, sign with the Lakers (or I guess the Clippers, even) and then bank what would have to be a huge shoe deal? Signing a shoe deal at this point when his long-term status is still iffy and he's playing in NBA Siberia is a strange business decision.

Maybe Dennis views it as a deal in hand is worth more than a hypothetical one next year. Or maybe he just doesn't know what he's doing. He's already cost Nephew salary money...

[gambit1990]

Nike is also one of the most profitable slave plantations in the world, only behind Apple and Starbucks. Are you a customer of those brands? Seems like your brand loyalty is in tune with your political viewpoint, you'd assume they are with your moral standards too.

Real question, no troll attempt or no silly reply setup intended because I'm honestly the same way for a lot of brands.
definitely an apple user, not a starbucks/coffee consumer though.

it's pretty hard using your money only on businesses that align with your political views though, the owners of restaurant chains donate... even the mlb donated to the racist mississippi senator who just won.

[JeffDuncan]

I'm trying to figure out the Uncle Dennis angle here. If Nephew is healthy, why not play out the season to prove Nephew's health, sign with the Lakers (or I guess the Clippers, even) and then bank what would have to be a huge shoe deal? Signing a shoe deal at this point when his long-term status is still iffy and he's playing in NBA Siberia is a strange business decision.

We don't know the dollar amount, do we? New Balance is not well known for basketball shoes but they are a large shoe company.

[Mr. Body]

I'm trying to figure out the Uncle Dennis angle here. If Nephew is healthy, why not play out the season to prove Nephew's health, sign with the Lakers (or I guess the Clippers, even) and then bank what would have to be a huge shoe deal? Signing a shoe deal at this point when his long-term status is still iffy and he's playing in NBA Siberia is a strange business decision.

Nephew's camp seems to think you can just sit on your limp dick any time you want to break relationships.

[objective]

Wasn't part of Quitter's rationale for wanting out of SA was all the awesome endorsement deals that Pop and RC were keeping him from signing?

So he gets out and .... Master Business Executive Dennis gets him the one deal he could have had in San Antonio with Matt Bonner's slops.

Protocol.

[JeffDuncan]

PS to what I wrote above, New Balance has estimated revenue of $4.5 billion, and they're a major supplier to the U.S. military.

"New Balance has been the sole supplier of athletic footwear to the US Navy and the US Marine Corps since at least 1998," says Brad Miller, General Manager of New Balance's Enduring Purpose division (which oversees its "Made in the USA" projects). "We also have provided footwear for the US Army and US Airforce."

[Mr. Body]

Wasn't part of Quitter's rationale for wanting out of SA was all the awesome endorsement deals that Pop and RC were keeping him from signing?

So he gets out and .... Master Business Executive Dennis gets him the one deal he could have had in San Antonio with Matt Bonner's slops.

Protocol.

Yes, exactly. Uncle was upset his boy wasn't getting what he deserved in endorsements. Then he signs this shit-ass deal.

[JeffDuncan]

We still don't know the dollar amount, do we.

[RC_Drunkford]

The question is prime duncan resting...wat age did his prime end according to you?

you truly a nominee for biggest retard on spurstalk if you think 37 year old Duncan was still prime Duncan. A player is usually in his prime from 27 to 32.

[timvp]

Maybe he likes what the Raptors have going for them and has made a decision to stay. Might as well get the shoe deal done and over.

Definitely a possibility. Good point.

[JakeCuenca]

I'm trying to figure out the Uncle Dennis angle here. If Nephew is healthy, why not play out the season to prove Nephew's health, sign with the Lakers (or I guess the Clippers, even) and then bank what would have to be a huge shoe deal? Signing a shoe deal at this point when his long-term status is still iffy and he's playing in NBA Siberia is a strange business decision.

There is no logic in Dennis. I don't think he understands basketball culture at all. I'm the biggest kawhi stan out there, but a lotnof what Dennis is doing this year has been comical.

Resting back to backs - The dude is playing 36 when its not back to back. There's practiclly no reason why he should resting this early other than the dumb idea "less games, less chance of injury. He is practiclly ruining any chance of Kawhi making a name for himself just to secure his commision in the max deal.

New Balance Signing - Even if the reports of 5 mill a year is innacurate, this isnt the brand that will help leonard with his own brand.

The raptors have a legit chance of making the NBA finals even with kawhi at 80%, there is no reason to sign these deals now other than business incompetence.

Kawhi needs to realize his uncle is in it for himself or else hes going to destory the rest of his career.

[JakeCuenca]

Maybe he likes what the Raptors have going for them and has made a decision to stay. Might as well get the shoe deal done and over. NBA Siberia is looking a lot nicer than NBA Mexico (SA) too..

Could be. Its a good sign for the raptors but they probably would have more leverage if they waited till the eastern confrence finals.

[Rusty]

Klay Thompson got 8 million per year. Uncle Dennis got his nephew 5 million per year:lol

[gambit1990]

i’m just curious about his logo going forward.

[JakeCuenca]

Klay Thompson got 8 million per year. Uncle Dennis got his nephew 5 million per year:lol

He doesnt understand the NBA culture. At this point im positive kawhi is sick of dennis..but its family.