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spursistan
04-17-2018, 09:22 PM
1- Rick Carlisle
2- Brad Stevens
3- Erik Spoelstra
4- Quin Snyder
5- Steve Kerr
6- Mike Budenholzer
7- Pop
8- Mike D'Antoni
9- Brett Brown
10- Doc Rivers
* Thibs and Van Gundy have both fallen of cliff in my estimation, and Pop is that high on reputation..
* I think Bud is still really a good coach. ATL were tanking hard with arguably the worst roster in the NBA.
* Still don't buying MDA hype until I see him adjust in a close playoffs series.
AlexJones
04-17-2018, 09:24 PM
Stevens
Pop
Spo
Carlisle
Kerr
HarlemHeat37
04-17-2018, 09:39 PM
In no order within tiers-
Tier 1: Stevens
Tier 2: Pop, Spoelstra, Snyder, Carlisle(although who knows if he's actually still a good coach? He could have gone the Thibs route) Budenholzer, Kerr, Casey, D'Antoni, Brown
Tier 3: Atkinson, SVG, McMillan, Rivers, Walton, Thibs, Stotts
Average or whatever: Hoigberg, Gentry, Donovan, Jorger
Worst of the worst: Lue, Malone, Prunty, Hornacek, Triano, Brooks
Robz4000
04-17-2018, 09:48 PM
In no order within tiers-
Tier 1: Stevens
Tier 2: Pop, Spoelstra, Snyder, Carlisle(although who knows if he's actually still a good coach? He could have gone the Thibs route) Budenholzer, Kerr, Casey, D'Antoni, Brown
Tier 3: Atkinson, SVG, McMillan, Rivers, Walton, Thibs, Stotts
Average or whatever: Hoigberg, Gentry, Donovan, Jorger
Worst of the worst: Lue, Malone, Prunty, Hornacek, Triano, Brooks
Mike Malone worst of the worst? He's at least on the same level as Uncle Tom Rivers imo.
DAF86
04-17-2018, 09:49 PM
D'antoni just seems too goofy. Not a good attitudinal trait for a coach.
spursistan
04-17-2018, 10:06 PM
Mike Malone worst of the worst? He's at least on the same level as Uncle Tom Rivers imo.
Doc has actually done a great job this season given the circumstances and roster..His horrific GM-ing has cast a shadow on his coaching abilities, which I think are decent (not elite)..
Let's be honest the DJ-Blake-CP3 core was extremely flawed and too frequently bitten by bad luck (injuries, fluke stuff)
Clipper Nation
04-17-2018, 10:15 PM
Doc is the absolute worst coach in the league. Ranking him top 10 is just comical.
Killakobe81
04-17-2018, 10:17 PM
In no order within tiers-
Tier 1: Stevens
Tier 2: Pop, Spoelstra, Snyder, Carlisle(although who knows if he's actually still a good coach? He could have gone the Thibs route) Budenholzer, Kerr, Casey, D'Antoni, Brown
Tier 3: Atkinson, SVG, McMillan, Rivers, Walton, Thibs, Stotts
Average or whatever: Hoigberg, Gentry, Donovan, Jorger
Worst of the worst: Lue, Malone, Prunty, Hornacek, Triano, Brooks
mostly a good list ...a cuple things...
1. not sure how people cant see how good Stevens is ...i saw it early ..
2 and also with Spo ...when most were arguing LeBron carried him to the Finals ...
3. i remember many here overrating Vogel and Thibs
4. Doc is living off rep but still good at SLOBs plays
5. RC is still good but less flexible than Spo stevens or Pop
Clipper Nation
04-17-2018, 10:22 PM
Doc has actually done a great job this season given the circumstances and roster..
This talking point has become so overrated, just because Doc played the injury card as an excuse all year. With the exception of Memphis if Gasol and Conley had stayed healthy, I honestly can't think of a single team behind us in the standings that had a better roster than us this year. The Spurs, Jazz, Pelicans, Cavs and Celtics all dealt with major injuries and/or roster turmoil too and still made the playoffs. As a result, I can't say we overachieved that much.
Fact is, the injuries forced Doc's hand to start playing more of the guys West brought in instead of his favorites, and then he took all the credit for it like it was his genius idea. That isn't good coaching, it's bad coaching getting bailed out by circumstance.
Austin Rivers played 34 minutes per game this season and you're ranking Doc as a top 10 coach in the league... SMH.
HarlemHeat37
04-17-2018, 10:30 PM
mostly a good list ...a cuple things...
1. not sure how people cant see how good Stevens is ...i saw it early ..
2 and also with Spo ...when most were arguing LeBron carried him to the Finals ...
3. i remember many here overrating Vogel and Thibs
4. Doc is living off rep but still good at SLOBs plays
5. RC is still good but less flexible than Spo stevens or Pop
Spoelstra wasn't a good coach back then, he was still inexperienced..he didn't become a good coach until the 2012-2013 season IMO..
Coaches are human beings, they can improve or get worse at their jobs, they can keep learning and innovating or they can burn out and/or stop caring..
Thibs was one of the most innovative defensive minds in NBA history, for example..the game passed him by, though..Pop is still a good coach, but 2011-2014 Pop was doing what Stevens does today, plugging in players on any given night and winning with his system..
Phil Jackson is obviously another example of a coach not adapting to the times, as well..
We'll see if Carlisle still has it, it's tough to tell when his rosters have been really bad for the past 4 years or so..
Killakobe81
04-17-2018, 10:34 PM
Spoelstra wasn't a good coach back then, he was still inexperienced..he didn't become a good coach until the 2012-2013 season IMO..
Coaches are human beings, they can improve or get worse at their jobs, they can keep learning and innovating or they can burn out and/or stop caring..
Thibs was one of the most innovative defensive minds in NBA history, for example..the game passed him by, though..Pop is still a good coach, but 2011-2014 Pop was doing what Stevens does today, plugging in players on any given night and winning with his system..
Phil Jackson is obviously another example of a coach not adapting to the times, as well..
Agree he was still learning...but like with Stevens i could tell he would be good by how hard his team plays, how well they execute and the adjustments they can make. of course you get better at those things with experience but he waa a good coach from the jump ...and like Stevens, I was impressed how good he was so young ...
spurraider21
04-17-2018, 10:36 PM
stevens
pop
carlisle
snyder
kerr
Killakobe81
04-17-2018, 10:37 PM
yes, thibs was an all time great assitant coach probably top one pre pace and space era...but a vastly overrated one as a HC ...who overworkedvhis starters and didnt trust/develop a deep bench.
D-Wade
04-18-2018, 12:18 AM
This list when McMillan, Gentry, and Casey are all showing out in this year's playoffs. :rolleyes
Bill_Brasky
04-18-2018, 01:43 PM
Always been a fan of Alvin Gentry. I think I'll cheer for NO after the Spurs go down.
spursistan
04-19-2018, 01:27 PM
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Minny better fire Thib's antiquated ass ASAP :lol..
spursistan
04-19-2018, 01:29 PM
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:lmao..
RsxPiimp
04-20-2018, 09:34 AM
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:lmao..
thibs is a pos.
Killakobe81
04-20-2018, 11:29 AM
This list when McMillan, Gentry, and Casey are all showing out in this year's playoffs. :rolleyes
great point but apparently its gospel on here that blacks can't coach ...
Chris Fall
04-20-2018, 11:42 AM
Thibs has his share of faults. But how much is it on Thibs that KAT is playing like ass?
Not absolving Thibs, but KAT must also share the blame for so far shrinking in the post season.
Clipper Nation
04-20-2018, 11:52 AM
Thibs has his share of faults. But how much is it on Thibs that KAT is playing like ass?
Not absolving Thibs, but KAT must also share the blame for so far shrinking in the post season.
Towns has indeed been playing like garbage. However, Towns isn't the one putting Rose/Jamal lineups on the court in playoff games. Towns didn't trade for Teague. Towns didn't design the Timberwolves' antiquated systems on offense and defense. Towns didn't run the starters into the ground with too many minutes over the course of the season. Thibs is the coach and GM in Minnesota and most of their problems are his fault.
Also, Wiggins shouldn't get a pass either. At least KAT's underperformance is shocking. With Wiggins, it would be surprising if he didn't stink up the court at this point. He has to be the worst player ever to get a max contract.
Clipper Nation
04-20-2018, 12:05 PM
This list when McMillan, Gentry, and Casey are all showing out in this year's playoffs. :rolleyes
I think Gentry is underrated as a coach. I don't think it's a coincidence that when he left the Clippers for the Warriors, Doc started getting exposed and the Warriors rang. A big part of why Lillard's been a non-factor this postseason is because of Gentry's coaching. The Pelicans are trapping Lillard aggressively, which a lot of teams do, but they're having the big who comes up stay with the double team for longer than usual. Lillard's been panicking against that coverage and Stotts hasn't adjusted at all. Good coaching move by Gentry, tbh.
Not really seeing anything special about McMillan's coaching job, tbh. The Pacers won Game 1 because LeBron was too passive early on in the game and nobody on the Cavs could make wide open shots, not because of any brilliant coaching move by McMillan. Then he helped cost the Pacers Game 2 with his idiotic approach to dealing with Oladipo's foul trouble:
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Casey is getting too much credit for what Nick Nurse and Jerry Stackhouse have done to develop talent and change the system/culture in Toronto.
1. Brett Brown
The real mastermind behind the Spurs ~2010 revival. I know he left the summer before the 2014 championship season, but his work was already done tbh. You see where the franchise has gone since.
2. Stevens
3. mike b.
4. pop(reputation)
5. kerr
6. dantoni
7. spo
8. casey
9. carlise(off reputation)
10. gentry(jury still out)
HarlemHeat37
04-20-2018, 01:30 PM
I used to be a big Gentry fan, but I think he's done a very poor job since joining the Pelicans..I don't think it's a coincidence that they're excelling with Rondo running the team, he's their real coach..
Killakobe81
04-20-2018, 01:51 PM
Towns has indeed been playing like garbage. However, Towns isn't the one putting Rose/Jamal lineups on the court in playoff games. Towns didn't trade for Teague. Towns didn't design the Timberwolves' antiquated systems on offense and defense. Towns didn't run the starters into the ground with too many minutes over the course of the season. Thibs is the coach and GM in Minnesota and most of their problems are his fault.
Also, Wiggins shouldn't get a pass either. At least KAT's underperformance is shocking. With Wiggins, it would be surprising if he didn't stink up the court at this point. He has to be the worst player ever to get a max contract.
Either him or Otto Porter ...
TheCultOfPersonality
04-21-2018, 03:21 PM
With Wiggins, it would be surprising if hedidn't stink up the court at this point. He has to be the worst player ever to get a max contract.
Either him or Otto Porter ...
Chandler Parsons is worse than both.
Nicolas Batum should be part of the conversation as well.
Pelicans78
04-21-2018, 04:06 PM
I used to be a big Gentry fan, but I think he's done a very poor job since joining the Pelicans..I don't think it's a coincidence that they're excelling with Rondo running the team, he's their real coach..
Gentry did a great job this season especially after Boogie's injury. Changed the entire offense by increasing the pace. Rondo helps because he allowed Jrue to play off the ball more. Gentry is no worse than D'antoni.
Killakobe81
04-21-2018, 04:07 PM
Chandler Parsons is worse than both.
Nicolas Batum should be part of the conversation as well.
was it a true max Parsons got or just a lot of $?!
spursistan
04-21-2018, 04:33 PM
Brett Brown is out-coaching Spo in this series, tbh.
Rummpd
04-21-2018, 04:38 PM
Brown has upped game and may win championship soon
Spurtacular
04-21-2018, 05:43 PM
Stotts stock plummeting, tbh.
spursistan
04-21-2018, 06:07 PM
Stotts is probably getting fired after this sweep, but that core (Lillard-CJ) and roster is more flawed than he is..
HarlemHeat37
04-21-2018, 06:11 PM
Stotts is probably getting fired after this sweep, but that core (Lillard-CJ) and roster is more flawed than he is..
He's been there for like 7 years, definitely time to move on..
I'd try to trade McCollum, as well..redundant and too flawed to be the 2nd best player on an aspiring contender..
1. Pop
2. Everyone else (doesn't matter)
Stotts is probably getting fired after this sweep, but that core (Lillard-CJ) and roster is more flawed than he is..
This is the problem when you overachieve in the 2nd half of the season and get shut down in the opening round. Your coach looks like a hero, then like a zero. In reality they got further than they should have, but Stotts still looks like a loser.
TheCultOfPersonality
04-21-2018, 07:21 PM
was it a true max Parsons got or just a lot of $?!
Maybe not the max that Horford got, but I consider what Parsons got a max deal.
TheCultOfPersonality
04-21-2018, 07:25 PM
Spoelstra should be #1. With the roster that Miami has they have no business being a playoff team. Basically it's Goran Dragic and a bunch of roleplayers. And it's not like Goran Dragic is a top 2 option level guy either. Miami has overachieved 2 years in a row with nothing rosters.
Clipper Nation
04-21-2018, 07:33 PM
Spoelstra should be #1. With the roster that Miami has they have no business being a playoff team. Basically it's Goran Dragic and a bunch of roleplayers. And it's not like Goran Dragic is a top 2 option level guy either. Miami has overachieved 2 years in a row with nothing rosters.
Spo is legit, tbh. I've been saying he's an elite coach for years now. The way he learned from his failure in 2011 and totally adjusted his approach to coaching was impressive.
Killakobe81
04-21-2018, 08:43 PM
Spo is legit, tbh. I've been saying he's an elite coach for years now. The way he learned from his failure in 2011 and totally adjusted his approach to coaching was impressive.
come, come he was not very good in 2011 but we all know who lost THAT series ...he may end up being the the 2nd best to ever do it ...but 2011 is more on the Kang than Spo ...stop it.
Spurtacular
04-21-2018, 11:27 PM
Billy Donovan gonna be heading back to college where the best poachers / cheaters win. Cucks like him have limited value in the NBA.
Kawhitstorm
04-21-2018, 11:38 PM
Rondo
Rubio
Gaymond
LeBrat
Choke-P3
spursistan
04-23-2018, 11:09 PM
Snyder is a Top 5 coach in the league, no question.
MultiTroll
04-24-2018, 09:42 AM
Assigning Patty Mills to D up on Durbetta.
That's some top notch strategy that no other NBA coach would even think of.
Pop #1 it's not even close.
spursistan
05-05-2018, 06:55 PM
Bump..
I'm completely sold..Stevens is the best coach in NBA..He is probably in a league of his own right now..
Snaq O'Meal
05-06-2018, 01:29 AM
:pop: “But does he have culture?”
Kawhitstorm
05-06-2018, 02:02 AM
Bump..
I'm completely sold..Stevens is the best coach in NBA..He is probably in a league of his own right now..
He still has yet to beat a legit contender (1-8 vs. Lue)
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