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cool cat
04-23-2018, 01:29 AM
Tatum, brown and a pick. That’s easy. Fuck this dude. Do it, move on and don’t look back.

Yep, I think if Kawhi is available there will be a bidding war for him. If Boston wants another big name, which they were trying for last year and had to settle on Gordon, this would be there best chance to get one. They have already shown they will move talent to get a big name, make it happen RC!

BillMc
04-23-2018, 04:01 AM
Porzingis and the kicks first rounder.

blizz
04-23-2018, 08:15 AM
Yep, I think if Kawhi is available there will be a bidding war for him. If Boston wants another big name, which they were trying for last year and had to settle on Gordon, this would be there best chance to get one. They have already shown they will move talent to get a big name, make it happen RC!

Yeah. If isn’t coming back there’s a bunch of talent out there. I’m really really disappointed in this kid. He was supposed to be Spurs material. We were all fooled.

duncan2k5
04-23-2018, 08:45 AM
Yeah. If isn’t coming back there’s a bunch of talent out there. I’m really really disappointed in this kid. He was supposed to be Spurs material. We were all fooled.

What makes u think he isn't? Because he is injured? Tony Parker is spurs material and he is an egotistical jerk who fucks teammates' wives... Imagine if Kawhi fucked manu's wife... Ppl would crucify him... Imagine if he downplayed the success of his teammates... Kawhi is injured, and because he has a reclusive personality and isn't tweeting like LeBron, ppl think he doesn't wanna be here... The only issues I can see him having is with how Parker and Manu has been dealing with this... Very selfish tbh...

Ice009
04-23-2018, 10:58 AM
What makes u think he isn't? Because he is injured? Tony Parker is spurs material and he is an egotistical jerk who fucks teammates' wives... Imagine if Kawhi fucked manu's wife... Ppl would crucify him... Imagine if he downplayed the success of his teammates... Kawhi is injured, and because he has a reclusive personality and isn't tweeting like LeBron, ppl think he doesn't wanna be here... The only issues I can see him having is with how Parker and Manu has been dealing with this... Very selfish tbh...

So you're calling stuff people out for people making assumptions about Kawhi, yet you're doing the exact same thing with Tony. There is nowhere that has said he slept with Brent Barry's wife. I'm pretty sure if he did, he wouldn't still be on the Spurs.

DaBears
04-23-2018, 11:19 AM
So you're calling stuff people out for people making assumptions about Kawhi, yet you're doing the exact same thing with Tony. There is nowhere that has said he slept with Brent Barry's wife. I'm pretty sure if he did, he wouldn't still be on the Spurs.

I am not thinking MANU called out KIWI, but i think TP was in his statement.

tholdren
04-23-2018, 04:54 PM
Hopefully his career is over

cd021
04-23-2018, 05:03 PM
Kawhi will sign contract and prove this whole thing was overblown
Yeah, by Kawhi.

cd021
04-23-2018, 05:11 PM
Doesn't the Memphis pick have a ton of protection on it though?


I believe you are correct.


The only magic offer I would be interested in would be: top3 pick + Isaac + Hezonja (S&T) + Gordon


Haven't heard of an Magic trade proposal yet but;

Kawhi

for

5th pick, 35th pick, 41st pick, Gordon, and Issac's is at least a competitve offer.

AFBlue
04-23-2018, 06:02 PM
Haven't heard of an Magic trade proposal yet but;

Kawhi

for

5th pick, 35th pick, 41st pick, Gordon, and Issac's is at least a competitve offer.

No immediate, proven replacement for Kawhi. With no guarantee that Rudy will be back, I think the Spurs have to look for an immediate contributor at the position. Might get it in free agency, but I'd rather see it as part of the deal.

tholdren
04-23-2018, 06:22 PM
He finds balls

MoSpur02
04-23-2018, 06:23 PM
Haven't heard of an Magic trade proposal yet but;

Kawhi

for

5th pick, 35th pick, 41st pick, Gordon, and Issac's is at least a competitve offer.

I actually mentioned the Spurs doing a sign and trade that would mean Spurs sending Kawhi to Orlando for Gordon, Vucevic, and their lottery pick. The Spurs could also give them Gasol and Mills' disgusting contracts

tholdren
04-23-2018, 07:38 PM
No max. Vet min, and spurs dont play him

cd021
04-23-2018, 07:51 PM
No immediate, proven replacement for Kawhi. With no guarantee that Rudy will be back, I think the Spurs have to look for an immediate contributor at the position. Might get it in free agency, but I'd rather see it as part of the deal.

I am confident that Rudy will be back next year so I wouldn't be super worried about getting a replacement 3 back for Kawhi in a trade or in FA.

DPG21920
04-23-2018, 09:18 PM
I am confident that Rudy will be back next year so I wouldn't be super worried about getting a replacement 3 back for Kawhi in a trade or in FA.

Its possible but who knows, seems pretty likely he’s opting out and SA doesn’t have any bird rights.

CGD
04-23-2018, 09:21 PM
Haven't heard of an Magic trade proposal yet but;

Kawhi

for

5th pick, 35th pick, 41st pick, Gordon, and Issac's is at least a competitve offer.

For Magic that would be a lot for a one year rental. Leonard isn’t extending there.

AFBlue
04-23-2018, 09:27 PM
Its possible but who knows, seems pretty likely he’s opting out and SA doesn’t have any bird rights.

And likely no room over the cap to pay beyond MLE right?

DPG21920
04-23-2018, 09:32 PM
And likely no room over the cap to pay beyond MLE right?

Really depends. SA could have some decent cap space depending on a few things or be operating over the cap with the MLE

pad300
04-23-2018, 09:34 PM
And likely no room over the cap to pay beyond MLE right?

If I understand it correctly as a guy who has had 1 year with the team, the team's non-bird rights allow them to offer him up to a 20% raise as an exception - which is to say something in the $10 Million region vs the $8.4 million of the MLE

Seventyniner
04-23-2018, 09:35 PM
Its possible but who knows, seems pretty likely he’s opting out and SA doesn’t have any bird rights.

I think they have non-Bird rights and can re-sign him to 105% of this year's salary. But that's basically the same as him opting in, at least for next season only. I don't know how I would feel about giving him a 2 or 3 year contract.

Seventyniner
04-23-2018, 09:36 PM
Really depends. SA could have some decent cap space depending on a few things or be operating over the cap with the MLE

Keeping Kawhi almost certainly means operating above the cap. Trading him is a golden opportunity to get rid of bad contracts, so Gay opting out would actually help.

CGD
04-23-2018, 09:36 PM
And likely no room over the cap to pay beyond MLE right?

I think they can use “non-bird” rights to resign Rudy since he completed 1 year of service, so if they’re operating over the cap they’d still have the MLE.

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2012/04/non-bird-rights-2.html

DPG21920
04-23-2018, 09:37 PM
Kawhi’s number is fixed next year regardless of any extension. SA, even with Kawhi back could definitely have cap space if TP is gone (or drastically reduced), Danny/Rudy opt out. Any trades as well open things up

cd021
04-24-2018, 08:02 AM
Its possible but who knows, seems pretty likely he’s opting out and SA doesn’t have any bird rights.

They have non bird, meaning that they can sign him to a multi year deal starting at 105℅ of this year's salary, (8.8 million, IIRC)

cd021
04-24-2018, 08:06 AM
Keeping Kawhi almost certainly means operating above the cap. Trading him is a golden opportunity to get rid of bad contracts, so Gay opting out would actually help.

I would make taking on Mills a requirement for any Kawhi trade, though I don't know if PAFTO sees it the same way. Gasol, would excell as a full-time backup big so I would keep him around for next season before stretching and waiving him and using the savings to get into FA

AFBlue
04-24-2018, 07:09 PM
I would make taking on Mills a requirement for any Kawhi trade, though I don't know if PAFTO sees it the same way. Gasol, would excell as a full-time backup big so I would keep him around for next season before stretching and waiving him and using the savings to get into FA

Mills has the "corporate knowledge" and fits the culture of the organization. That and the fact that Parker has fallen off a cliff and Ginobili might retire...they need a backup PG and potential 6th man.

I'm not saying Patty is the right guy, but I don't see them handing over the reigns to Forbes or White.

AFBlue
04-24-2018, 07:11 PM
They have non bird, meaning that they can sign him to a multi year deal starting at 105℅ of this year's salary, (8.8 million, IIRC)

All it takes is a team with cap space to offer him $12M and I think that would do it. He likely has one good contract left, now that he's proven he he has recovered. I HOPE he's back, but I'm not optimistic.

sasaint
04-24-2018, 07:21 PM
Mills has the "corporate knowledge" and fits the culture of the organization. That and the fact that Parker has fallen off a cliff and Ginobili might retire...they need a backup PG and potential 6th man.

I'm not saying Patty is the right guy, but I don't see them handing over the reigns to Forbes or White.

I have some slight hope that Patty might actually improve over this season if he returned to his former minutes and role as a spark plug off the bench. On the other hand, Gasol is just bad, and he will only get worse. I would rather keep Patty and dump Pau. However, my preference would be for the Spurs to move both players.

Pako
04-24-2018, 07:31 PM
Regardless of the issue I hope Kawhi is physically ok, that's good for both parties. I think PATFO will try their best to keep Kawhi and that is the smart thing to do. They will take the high road just like Lamarcus situation. However, if Kawhi insist to be traded, I will not be surprise if PATFO will full the trigger and get good value from him.
Ideal scenario, Kawhi stays and we get Lebron.

tbdog
04-24-2018, 07:48 PM
I would make taking on Mills a requirement for any Kawhi trade, though I don't know if PAFTO sees it the same way. Gasol, would excell as a full-time backup big so I would keep him around for next season before stretching and waiving him and using the savings to get into FA

Mills has been our 3rd best player this post season. At there is a large gap between 3 and 4.

SAGirl
04-24-2018, 07:59 PM
I don’t think they trade Mills.
That’s wishful thinking, like last season. He’s staying. He’ll headline a tank if it comes to that.

davidbowie
04-24-2018, 08:56 PM
we get a time machine and bring the 2014 team back

cd021
04-25-2018, 05:58 AM
All it takes is a team with cap space to offer him $12M and I think that would do it. He likely has one good contract left, now that he's proven he he has recovered. I HOPE he's back, but I'm not optimistic.

Most of cap space teams are bad teams and also young, giving Gay $12 million probably isn't going to happen. Playoffs teams may have interest but more than a few of them won't be able to use all of their MLE without going into the tax so the Spurs should have a good chance of re-signing him.

Kuestmaster
04-27-2018, 05:05 AM
I just don't want him back at this point. Who do he thinks he is to keep all the organistation in jeopardy? Sue his sorry ass and ship him to the worst possible franchise to rot there.

dbestpro
04-27-2018, 10:32 AM
Trading Kawhi with Mills to the Lakers for Ingram, Randle, Kuzma, a future 1st and sign and trade of Lopez. Then watch Ingram become an all-star averaging 25 ppg, while Leonard remains out, causing the Lakers pick to the Spurs to be a lottery pick, which miraculously becomes the first pick in the draft.
Side effects will see Bertans, Forbes and Anderson sent for better shooters who can play better defense.

DPG21920
06-18-2018, 06:03 PM
Suns are the best trade partner.

Josh Jackson & the #1 pick

Come on baby.

baseline bum
06-18-2018, 06:10 PM
It starts with JR Smith driving Kawhi to the airport...

tholdren
06-18-2018, 06:23 PM
Bell thompson golden state

tholdren
06-18-2018, 06:23 PM
kiwi for tatum+rozier+morris+2 firsts

kiwi for fultz+saric+1sts

kiwi+fatty for ingram+lonzo+filler+1sts


get it done PATFO :hungry:

Lol fultz or ball. Go away