Kawhi’s Sister Says He is Still Hurt; Kawhi’s Mom Was in Attendance Yesterday

[BatManu20]

Didn’t think there were enough Kawhi threads so I figured I’d create one.




Kawhi’s sister, who runs his IG fan account, had this to say. Notice she mentions the “business side of things.” Definitely trying to protect that $219M.




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[BatManu20]

Also saw from multiple people on Twitter that his mom was in attendance at yesterday‘s game. Take it for what it’s worth, but they said she was celebrating the W.

[DieHardSpursFan1537]

Can't imagine the autistic mute will turn down $70 million extra if Drunkford and company come at him with the supermax.

[SAGirl]

:flag:
Hope the dude recovers. He wants that supermax but he for sure needs to be 100 % healthy to get that dough. It’s in both parties (Kiwi and Spurs) that he recovers so not much can be said about it. His career is on the line.

[Sheriff Hoyt]

Pathetic

[dabom]

Respect.

[Sheriff Hoyt]

Respect.

lol by letting his family speak for him?

[SpursforSix]

are we sure that Kawhi's "sister" isn't just his alter ego?
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I tried to post a pic of her but it may have violated the minimum ugly that can be posted.

[BackHome]

So let me get this straight he wants SUPER MAX salary but he will only play when he is 100%.

[K...]

It's going to be ironic when kawhi's "I won't jepordize my super Max by returning" turns into no super Max because he took it to far

[lil'mo]

How completely fuckin stupid are some of you?

[cd98]

Spurs trying to get momma on their side. What good young man would choose his uncle over his mom?

[spursistan]

It's going to be ironic when kawhi's "I won't jepordize my super Max by returning" turns into no super Max because he took it to far
More reason to not offer it. And I don't think the Spurs will until he get his ass back on court..

Imagine getting paid 19 millions to sit out an entire year of basketball as prime strategy to get 40 millions the fllowing 5. GTFO :lol..

[MoSpur02]

I hope the Spurs and Kawhi can all get on the same page when they sit down to talk in the off-season. His family (sister) seems to be throwing out hints that Kawhi is injured and that there is no bad blood.

Her writing, "make sure you know the NBA business side of things" could indicate this whole sitting out has everything to do with him wanting to secure that supermax deal.

[TheGreatYacht]

Hope the Leonard family is enjoying their house search in Calabasas....

[sananspursfan21]

lol by letting his family speak for him?

If he comes back to play for San Antonio and despite media reports maintains a good rapport with the FO all because of communication through his family, who cares. He's been a fine locker room presence in all 6 seasons or Pop would have hated him years ago. Viva La Garra :claw

[SpursforSix]

minimum ugly?

Maybe it's "maximum ugly"

[FkLA]

He gonna be a Spur for life :cry
Kawhichael :cry

:claw

[SpursforSix]

How completely fuckin stupid are some of you?

I had buttsex with your mom after I took her to Chipotle.

[lefty]

:cry it still hurts

[lil'mo]

I had buttsex with your mom after I took her to Chipotle.

I heard you don’t date bc you can’t afford two meals

[exstatic]

If he comes back to play for San Antonio and despite media reports maintains a good rapport with the FO all because of communication through his family, who cares. He's been a fine locker room presence in all 6 seasons or Pop would have hated him years ago. Viva La Garra :claw

He's been a zero locker room presence. I remember that multi-part round table discussion that featured Pop, Tim, Manu, and Tony after 2014. They really didn't have anything to say about Kawhi, other than he never talks.

If all of this was to secure the SuperMax, they were 180 degrees off. If he had tried to fight through it and play this season, the Spurs FO could have offered it to him, and bought insurance. By showing distrust in the Spurs, he's engendered the same from them. It's human nature. They cannot offer him the SuperMax when HE says he's not healthy, and they cannot let him walk next summer, which he will without the SuperMax. Therefore, a trade is on the horizon.

[SpursforSix]

I heard you don’t date bc you can’t afford two meals

That's why I have to fuck your mom.

[Stabula]

I don't want him back. His injury will prevent him from ever being a superstar again. If he gets the supermax it could drstroy this franchise.

[ECOV]

lol by letting his family speak for him?
He didn't ask for his fans to speak for him they just do.

[emanueldavidginobili]

Most of you guys are being dramatic. Hes trying to avoid what happened to IT, dude fought through the injury just to lose in the playoffs and then have surgery in the off season, and missed the opportunity of getting a MAX deal. I don't think the Celtics would have gave him one but still was in the discussion of him getting one. This entire forum was on their knees for Kawhi last season and in the playoffs. He obviously got banged up last season in the playoffs with his ankles multiple times still tried playing through it and just couldnt. Then got the quad injury working hard in the off season tries to come back in the middle of the season and clearly didn't look right. Why in the world would he come back this season when it was clear they weren't going to win anything and injuring himself more before the biggest pay day of his life, Kawhi is not going anywhere.

[Chomag]

Can this dude not speak for himself? Be a grown man!

On another note could we start a petition to transplant Manu's head and heart to Kawai's body please? Lol

[TheGreatYacht]

I don't want him back. His injury will prevent him from ever being a superstar again. If he gets the supermax it could drstroy this franchise.
I can't wait until you find what Drunkford did last summer.

[Keepin' it real]

Most of you guys are being dramatic. Hes trying to avoid what happened to IT

Bullshit! IT was hoping for a big payday. Kawhi ALREADY RECEIVED a big payday, remember?

He's playing on a max contract, 5 years, $94M. For that money, you play through pain. Or, give the money back and GTFO!

[NASpurs]

Can this dude not speak for himself? Be a grown man!

On another note could we start a petition to transplant Manu's head and heart to Kawai's body please? Lol

Like literal head? That would look odd.

[Chillen]

Well he could be just playing it safe and will not play this season to heal 100%. The team must have asked him to not sit on the bench because it's a distraction. I have a feeling he is afraid to play for fear of a lingering injury with his quad.

However the Spurs should explore a trade with Lakers if they can get Ball, Ingram and Kuzma, 1st round pick and take on Deng's contract. Reason being this could turn into being injured every single season with this quad injury. If Magic wants Kawhi that bad and is willing to take the risk it might be worth it for Spurs long term even if Kawhi goes on to be healthy starting next season. Spurs could wind up with plenty of young talent to develop for Kawhi.

My guess would be Spurs will offer Kawhi the supermax out of loyalty.

[lil'mo]

That's why I have to fuck your mom.

You know how I know you’re a obese virgin? :lol

[dabom]

Bullshit! IT was hoping for a big payday. Kawhi ALREADY RECEIVED a big payday, remember?

He's playing on a max contract, 5 years, $94M. For that money, you play through pain. Or, give the money back and GTFO!


It was a cheap contract and right before the big TV contract.

[hater]

Kawhis abuelita woke up from the grave and said

“That niga still cant wipe his own ass!”

[Mugen]

:lol Hopefully her 'gram has a fat mexican filter on, can't imagine Kawhi would love a bunch of overweight losers telling him he should risk 200+mil....

[Chomag]

Like literal head? That would look odd.
Whatever works lol

[KDKSpurs24]

Bullshit! IT was hoping for a big payday. Kawhi ALREADY RECEIVED a big payday, remember?

He's playing on a max contract, 5 years, $94M. For that money, you play through pain. Or, give the money back and GTFO!
Dude how old are you..? When anybody has the opportunity to get significantly more money than the are making then they’re gonna do it. No matter how much they were making. Even billionaires want to make more money. Don’t be naive.

[SpursforSix]

You know how I know you’re a obese virgin? :lol

No...do tell.

[hater]

http://pm1.narvii.com/6483/150b9efa210c88e06f1aaa70bfd8946b84fecaed_hq.jpg

[NASpurs]

http://pm1.narvii.com/6483/150b9efa210c88e06f1aaa70bfd8946b84fecaed_hq.jpg


Whatever works lol

:lol close enough

[Chomag]

http://pm1.narvii.com/6483/150b9efa210c88e06f1aaa70bfd8946b84fecaed_hq.jpg

Make it happen! :lol

[emanueldavidginobili]

Bullshit! IT was hoping for a big payday. Kawhi ALREADY RECEIVED a big payday, remember?

He's playing on a max contract, 5 years, $94M. For that money, you play through pain. Or, give the money back and GTFO!

You play through the pain and jeopardize your future? for what?

[TheGreatYacht]

Keepin' it gay is one of the people Kawhi's sister was talking about :lol

[bklynspursfan]

kawhileonardofficialfanpage (https://www.instagram.com/kawhileonardofficialfanpage/)@mike_n_mikey4sophie (https://www.instagram.com/mike_n_mikey4sophie/) Have several seats until you have a full understanding. He played his heart out didnt want to leave but due to injury he had to. Yes he showed up to take team pictures so what. Yes he had a camp to give back to his community in August 2017 his Quad wad not injured. Yes the 1st time around he was cleared and played 9 games guess what? He wasn't 100% then and got re injured so why not get a second opinion. This is a serious injury. He is not rushing the process. His health is #1 (https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/1/) Priority. Doesn't seem like you are concerned about him getting 100% healthy instead you want to see him on the court not being 100%. At the end of the day your opinion is based off of what you hear in the media. Mines are Facts/Truth! Respect the process. My brother wants to be on the court bad! But cant. So if it makes you FEEL BETTTER to Assume, speculate or try to guess whats going on so be it. He will remain the same quiet and humbled.



:wakeup

She said "respect the process" Queue the Kawhi wants to go to Philly rumors

[noles1983]

Fuck Kawhi. Why cant that faggot say as much?

[SpursforSix]

Fuck Kawhi. Why cant that faggot say as much?

No shit. When was the last time a fan base had to rely on a player's sister for news on the player?

[exstatic]

Most of you guys are being dramatic. Hes trying to avoid what happened to IT, dude fought through the injury just to lose in the playoffs and then have surgery in the off season, and missed the opportunity of getting a MAX deal. I don't think the Celtics would have gave him one but still was in the discussion of him getting one. This entire forum was on their knees for Kawhi last season and in the playoffs. He obviously got banged up last season in the playoffs with his ankles multiple times still tried playing through it and just couldnt. Then got the quad injury working hard in the off season tries to come back in the middle of the season and clearly didn't look right. Why in the world would he come back this season when it was clear they weren't going to win anything and injuring himself more before the biggest pay day of his life, Kawhi is not going anywhere.

Unfortunately for him, he's not getting that payday. He'll take about a $35M haircut in guaranteed money losing the SuperMax because of his lack of trust. If he leaves the organization where they trade him, that's one contract year and another $40M of guaranteed money gone.

The Spurs have a HISTORY of conservative injury return protocols, as well as taking care of players when they get older, making up for some of the pay they couldn't get on the front side of their careers on the back side. By saying he's worried about being IT'd, that says that he doesn't trust an organization built on trust. That broken trust will lead to his departure.

[offset formation]

Unfortunately for him, he's not getting that payday. He'll take about a $35M haircut in guaranteed money losing the SuperMax because of his lack of trust. If he leaves the organization where they trade him, that's one contract year and another $40M of guaranteed money gone.

The Spurs have a HISTORY of conservative injury return protocols, as well as taking care of players when they get older, making up for some of the pay they couldn't get on the front side of their careers on the back side. By saying he's worried about being IT'd, that says that he doesn't trust an organization built on trust. That broken trust will lead to his departure.

Most likely spot on.

And again, something transpired in the immediate aftermath of that player's only meeting that caused him to separate himself from the team.

And seeing how I wasn't there, I can only go off player reactions that while it may not have been as confrontational as was reported (hearing loud voices through the door, etc), something uncomfortable happened. Such that players have hinted that he should keep rehabbing rather than be around the team (Mills, Pau, and Ginobili have all hinted at this).

And since then, Kawhi has gone radio silent.

He either does not want to he around his teammates, or was asked to stay away while the season was ongoing if he wasn't going to play, or both.

Either way, neither scenario sends a positive vibe about, not only about what happened that day, but also what the future of the relationship holds.

[lil'mo]

No...do tell.

Cause your Takis stained fingers can’t stop clacking away about fucking peoples’ moms which indicates that you are 1. Obese (or bordering on), and 2. Never had a girlfriend/never seen or touched a real pussy in real life outside of fully nude strip joints :rollin

[SpursforSix]

Cause your Takis stained fingers can’t stop clacking away about fucking peoples’ moms which indicates that you are 1. Obese (or bordering on), and 2. Never had a girlfriend/never seen or touched a real pussy in real life outside of fully nude strip joints :rollin

SFS: (minding own business)
Hot Chic: what you doing?
SFS: chillin...eatin' Takis
Hot Chic: are those Beats?
SFS: yes...Studio Ultimate Plus
Hot Chic: wow...hey...wanna touch me in my privates?

Trust me Lil Mo...it's that easy

[Brazil]

Respect the business side of the NBA.

:lmao

[lil'mo]

SFS: (minding own business)
Hot Chic: what you doing?
SFS: chillin...eatin' Takis
Hot Chic: are those Beats?
SFS: yes...Studio Ultimate Plus
Hot Chic: wow...hey...wanna touch me in my privates?

Trust me Lil Mo...it's that easy

It don’t work like that, avant

[SpursforSix]

It don’t work like that, avant

It wouldn't work for you. Nice headphones and Takis won't hide your jacked up teef.

[Stabula]

I can't wait until you find what Drunkford did last summer.

Gasol is only under contract for two more years and his good games aren't uncommon, he's a high IQ playmaking bigman who can shoot. It's maybe not worth the money but it's not a bad tool to have in your belt. Mills is overpaid but it's not a franchise-destroying contract. However having a "superstar" who can't play half the season, who's making supermax money, and can't play at a superstar level anymore will put this team into a long dark age.

[tholdren]

No shit. When was the last time a fan base had to rely on a player's sister for news on the player?

Lol kl fans... dumber than kl. I told you so

[weebo]

Unfortunately for him, he's not getting that payday. He'll take about a $35M haircut in guaranteed money losing the SuperMax because of his lack of trust. If he leaves the organization where they trade him, that's one contract year and another $40M of guaranteed money gone.

The Spurs have a HISTORY of conservative injury return protocols, as well as taking care of players when they get older, making up for some of the pay they couldn't get on the front side of their careers on the back side. By saying he's worried about being IT'd, that says that he doesn't trust an organization built on trust. That broken trust will lead to his departure.

Jesus you sound like a jilted ex girlfriend :lol You might be butt hurt because of everything you read. Bottomline is we don't know what is going on with the Spurs and KL camp. The only thing that really sucks about all this is KL himself has yet to deny rumors/speculation and explain why he hasn't been with the team during this PO.

[Brazil]

Please somebody explain to me... the business side of the NBA in this case

[BSfromTX]

Unfortunately for him, he's not getting that payday. He'll take about a $35M haircut in guaranteed money losing the SuperMax because of his lack of trust. If he leaves the organization where they trade him, that's one contract year and another $40M of guaranteed money gone.

The Spurs have a HISTORY of conservative injury return protocols, as well as taking care of players when they get older, making up for some of the pay they couldn't get on the front side of their careers on the back side. By saying he's worried about being IT'd, that says that he doesn't trust an organization built on trust. That broken trust will lead to his departure.

Agree

Most likely to the spurs advantage. He can't get supermax anywhere else and spurs have very good reason to not offer the full supermax... 40M is a nice cushion plus the fact that he would only want to be traded to a team he would want to extend with puts even more money in jeopardy.

I have a bad feeling for Kawhi that this injury is career altering at best and he's trying desperately to keep it secret and/or hope it fully resolves and not risk his next contract....problem is, he and his PR crew are putting it in jeopardy anyway with how they are handling it. I mean not showing any support for your team, not giving updates, and then trotting your sister out on Twitter to defend you? Pretty weak

[DPG21920]

Please somebody explain to me... the business side of the NBA in this case

That these are the players jobs/careers and even though they are athletes and it’s not apples to apples, that taking care of yourself to secure the most money you can is what everyone would do in their own jobs.

So the business side of the nba is you don’t put yourself at risk if you aren’t 100% in a situation like Kawhi is in where he’s due one of the largest contracts in nba history.

[Brazil]

That these are the players jobs/careers and even though they are athletes and it’s not apples to apples, that taking care of yourself to secure the most money you can is what everyone would do in their own jobs.

So the business side of the nba is you don’t put yourself at risk if you aren’t 100% in a situation like Kawhi is in where he’s due one of the largest contracts in nba history.

must be the business side of the NBA that explains why Kawhi let his sister and uncle do the talking to the fans...

[TD 21]

:lmao At people still making definitive declarations.

Unless he requests a trade after whatever discussions inevitably take place or after doing inevitable due diligence, they're not satisfied medically, why wouldn't they offer the super max (with protections)? The likely alternative is getting on the treadmill of mediocrity.

They don't have to offer it on July 1st. As long as they're on the same page by then, they can slow play this, similar to the Aldridge situation. Get him back around the team in open gym, through training camp and into a few preseason games. If all systems are a go, offer it then.

[RD2191]

Kawhi is my dude but damn, nigga could at least send out a tweet or something. :lol

[Chawaman]

I know ya take what his sister says with a grain of salt, but its still good to hear this in the most nearest source to kawhi available.

kawhileonardofficialfanpage (https://www.instagram.com/kawhileonardofficialfanpage/)@erika.liliana.sandoval (https://www.instagram.com/erika.liliana.sandoval/) Thank you, and he Loves Texas as well! ��

[ViceCity86]

Team Kawhi :claw

[dbreiden83080]

He actually expects the Spurs to offer him $219 million when he laid down and refused to play all season long? Holy fuck.

[SpursforSix]

That these are the players jobs/careers and even though they are athletes and it’s not apples to apples, that taking care of yourself to secure the most money you can is what everyone would do in their own jobs.

So the business side of the nba is you don’t put yourself at risk if you aren’t 100% in a situation like Kawhi is in where he’s due one of the largest contracts in nba history.

Sure. But it's hard to relate when most of the players are making more in a year or two than 99% of people make their whole life. More so for the superstars. Leonard isn't going to find many that are sympathetic to him sitting out and getting paid $19,000,000 just so he can make $30,000,000 or whatever it is.

And I'd further add that to earn the supermax, you should be a badass-play-through-the-pain guy.

All that that being said, from an individual standpoint, Leonard may be doing exactly what's right for him.

[Chillen]

He actually expects the Spurs to offer him $219 million when he laid down and refused to play all season long? Holy fuck.

Pop and RC just might be on he phone with Magic Johnson this summer, "So let me get this straight you want to trade your whole team for Kawhi?". They at least have to make the call to Magic to see if they would do Ball, Kuzma, Ingram, Deng, 1st round pick for Kawhi, Mills.

[SpursforSix]

Pop and RC just might be on he phone with Magic Johnson this summer, "So let me get this straight you want to trade your whole team for Kawhi?". They at least have to make the call to Magic to see if they would do Ball, Kuzma, Ingram, Deng, 1st round pick for Kawhi, Mills.

Fuck. Lmao at the Ball entourage interacting with Pop.
Sounds like a bad sitcom.

[daslicer]

Fuck. Lmao at the Ball entourage interacting with Pop.
Sounds like a bad sitcom.

I could see Pop having this type of interaction with the Ball entourage.
hiPhLCi0ExQ

[ElNono]

Did Kawhi's Uncle tweet, tbh?

[Clipper Nation]

Unfortunately for him, he's not getting that payday. He'll take about a $35M haircut in guaranteed money losing the SuperMax because of his lack of trust. If he leaves the organization where they trade him, that's one contract year and another $40M of guaranteed money gone.

The Spurs have a HISTORY of conservative injury return protocols, as well as taking care of players when they get older, making up for some of the pay they couldn't get on the front side of their careers on the back side. By saying he's worried about being IT'd, that says that he doesn't trust an organization built on trust. That broken trust will lead to his departure.
The Spurs also have a history of giving out big-ass loyalty contracts. If Kawhi wants to stay, he'll get the supermax.

[SAGirl]

Did Kawhi's Uncle tweet, tbh?
Manu soldiering on...
988468087329640449

[Keepin' it real]

You play through the pain and jeopardize your future? for what?

$94M

[Nathan89]

Now that we know Kawhi is returning now all we have to worry about is getting rid of Pau and Patty. Oh, and finding more talent.

[Keepin' it real]

Now that we know Kawhi is returning now all we have to worry about is getting rid of Pau and Patty. Oh, and finding more talent.

And heart, and toughness, and the ability to speak.

[blizz]

He actually expects the Spurs to offer him $219 million when he laid down and refused to play all season long? Holy fuck.
And refused to hang out with the team, to be at games with the team, to say ANYTHING about this shit.

[SpursforSix]

mmm Mrs. Lil’mo is one fine heifer. i can vouch for that! let me put it this way - i’d ring her bell and milk her teats til the cow ‘comes’ home

That ain't milk. That's cancer.

[blizz]

Now that we know Kawhi is returning now all we have to worry about is getting rid of Pau and Patty. Oh, and finding more talent.

We know this how?

[tholdren]

I hope the Spurs and Kawhi can all get on the same page when they sit down to talk in the off-season. His family (sister) seems to be throwing out hints that Kawhi is injured and that there is no bad blood.

Her writing, "make sure you know the NBA business side of things" could indicate this whole sitting out has everything to do with him wanting to secure that supermax deal.

Had he tried to play spurs would have given the max. When have they ever not taken care of their own? Oh never... thats right. Carry on.

[Atl Spur]

Some real genius types in here! Every other fan base would love to have our coach & our star player.......but of course we don’t! Definition of CLOWNS..... This year was an anomaly for us but a good season by 75% of the leagues other franchises!
Quit acting like entitled little b’s

[testies]

Pain is not injury. Kawhi had a chance to beat a 50% Warriors and the rest of the post season is the weakest I've seen at least in 15 years, specially defensively.

A star player with a decent chance at a championship cannot sit out because of contract,pain or whatever. This is bullshit.

To me he died, honestly.

[tholdren]

Pain is not injury. Kawhi had a chance to beat a 50% Warriors and the rest of the post season is the weakest I've seen at least in 15 years, specially defensively.

A star player with a decent chance at a championship cannot sit out because of contract,pain or whatever. This is bullshit.

To me he died, honestly.

He died when he stole fmvp

[testies]

I would trade him for a number of players.

People forget how awful he was against the Clippers and Thunder. in 15 and 16

[Atl Spur]

Pain is not injury. Kawhi had a chance to beat a 50% Warriors and the rest of the post season is the weakest I've seen at least in 15 years, specially defensively.

A star player with a decent chance at a championship cannot sit out because of contract,pain or whatever. This is bullshit.

To me he died, honestly.

Do you work through an injury? You must be a board certified Doctor huh?

[HarlemHeat37]

I would trade him for a number of players.

People forget how awful he was against the Clippers and Thunder. in 15 and 16

Clippers ya(the infamous Matt Barnes game), but he was still good vs. OKC..IIRC, only him, Aldridge and Green played well in that series..Parker was decent for stretches..

[tholdren]

Do you work through an injury? You must be a board certified Doctor huh?

I have multiple times. And yes

[Atl Spur]

He’s been in the MVP race the last two years finishing second and third....... only on spurs talk does this type of crazy is normalized!

[tholdren]

Hes gay and i am too!

[Atl Spur]

I have multiple times. And yes

I say no to both for you; you just talk a lot....... Looking for validation on a message board doesn’t scream confidence.

[HarlemHeat37]

I've been vocal about Kawhi being a bitch for not speaking or attending games, but of course the Spurs should offer him the supermax and try to work shit out:lol at the end of the day, elite talent wins in this league..there's a massive gap between good and great players..

[tholdren]

some random guy check my oil.

[Atl Spur]

That’s cute; I never typed that but that’s cool. You even know how to do little message board tricks..... I won’t even go in on you; someone probably already has!

[Atl Spur]

You are a boy (I think) so act like it.

[DaBears]

are we sure that Kawhi's "sister" isn't just his alter ego?
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I tried to post a pic of her but it may have violated the minimum ugly that can be posted.

Can an you say ~ SAVAGE ~

i wouldnt go there but we see you have no prob w/it.

[SpursforSix]

Can an you say ~ SAVAGE ~

i wouldnt go there but we see you have no prob w/it.

I wish the pic would have come through.

She looks like a tougher version of Kawhi.

[SAGirl]

Clippers ya(the infamous Matt Barnes game), but he was still good vs. OKC..IIRC, only him, Aldridge and Green played well in that series..Parker was decent for stretches..
OKC do you remember Roberson making fun that he was imposing his will on Kiwi? Or something to that effect?

[jermaine]

This nigga was a Black superhero to me. I preached to my kids all the time be more like Kawhi, an Not these so called superstars being divas. But now, my kids make fun of me an the Spurs. Seriously!!! Again I'm not upset if he truly believed he's hurt, but no one is 100% in the playoffs. An he's damn sure getting paid for his services. An to add insult, if you knew you would be rehabbing for the rest of the yr, why not come out an say it. Be there for your team in the playoffs by supporting them. He could rehab in the summer. I seen someone say Kawhi is dead to them. I wouldn't go that far, but I'm truly not a Kawhi fan anymore. Idc if the Spurs resign him. He can't be trusted in my eyes! He'll sit out a whole season as soon as he signs that contract to force a trade. Fuck him

[tim_duncan_fan]

Lol how do we know that's Kawhi's sister?

[DPG21920]

Yall are stupid for talking about Kawhi’s mom and sister’s appearance. Just dumb .

[HarlemHeat37]

Yall are stupid for talking about Kawhi’s mom and sister’s appearance. Just dumb .

:lol think about who you're referring to, though..

[offset formation]

Yall are stupid for talking about Kawhi’s mom and sister’s appearance. Just dumb .

Childish, really.

[Ice009]

:lmao At people still making definitive declarations.

Unless he requests a trade after whatever discussions inevitably take place or after doing inevitable due diligence, they're not satisfied medically, why wouldn't they offer the super max (with protections)? The likely alternative is getting on the treadmill of mediocrity.

They don't have to offer it on July 1st. As long as they're on the same page by then, they can slow play this, similar to the Aldridge situation. Get him back around the team in open gym, through training camp and into a few preseason games. If all systems are a go, offer it then.

When is the cutoff point for them being able to offer the Supermax? Can they offer it all the way up until just before the season starts? I don't think Kawhi would be too happy with that, though. If they waited that long, he could ask out before then.


I would trade him for a number of players.

People forget how awful he was against the Clippers and Thunder. in 15 and 16

I didn't. I was all over him after the Clippers series for not being mentally strong and fading in those last few games, but I let it go because the second half of the season was the first time he was asked to be "the man."

I was also upset with him in the Thunder series. I can't remember if it was game 2 or game 5, but at the end of one of those games that the Spurs had a shot to win it, Kawhi didn't want anything to do with the ball. I thought, Kawhi, if you want to be a Superstar and get to the level you want to get to, you gotta demand the ball with the game on the line, not let Tony Parker and Patty Mills take shots to win it. I was still a huge fan of his after the series, but I said if he wanted to get to the next level that he always talks about (being one of the all-time greats), then he needed to get mentally stronger at the end of big games/playoff games. I think he did it last season and got there, but we didn't get to see this season if he could build off of that and maintain it. Kawhi getting to the level he showed last season is also the reason I'm mad about the possibility of him leaving or trading him. He finally got to that level that he wanted to get to, but then to lose him straight after, especially if he's healthy, is really going to piss me off. The Spurs put a lot into him, and if he were to bail on the team, then I'm not sure anyone is going to be too happy about that (the fans and the Spurs).

[Vic Petro]

Shanaynay wildin out

[BatManu20]

Shaq might be right, tbh.


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[Spurtacular]

Shaq might be right, tbh.


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If the Spurs played games with the extension, then they probably deserved this, tbh. Then again, Shaq disagrees with that conclusion though.

[phxspurfan]

If the Spurs give a player who was so worried about this injury the Supermax without seeing him healthy, that could turn out to be the worst financial decision in franchise history.

[Chinook]

I've been vocal about Kawhi being a bitch for not speaking or attending games, but of course the Spurs should offer him the supermax and try to work shit out:lol at the end of the day, elite talent wins in this league..there's a massive gap between good and great players..

You're right about talent. The issue, though, is that Kawhi may not be able to be that elite talent anymore, or if he is, he may not be able to do it long enough or for as many games. TD21 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=908) threw in the caveat of a supermax "with protections", but there are two problems with this. One can be seen by looking at the potential contract breakdown of such a deal:




2019-2020
2020-2021
2021-2022
2022-2023
2023-2024
Total


Base
32.13
34.697
37.264
39.831
42.398
186.32


Max Incentives
5.67
6.123
6.576
7.029
7.482
32.88


Total
37.8
40.82
43.84
46.86
49.88
219.2




The Spurs could potentially lower the amount they owe further by making some of the salary non-guaranteed, but this protects against a Kawhi who is cut only. It's possible that Kawhi is hurt to the point that he'll never be a great player while also being able to be a very good player in a lesser role for many years to come. I think the Spurs would want that Kawhi regardless, but is that guy worth an average of $37M per year? Of course not. The Spurs would save $32 Million, which is noting to sneeze at, but that would still be more than the regular Bird-max.

This is obviously pure speculation. Only a couple of rumors have suggested Kawhi's injury may hinder the rest of his career. It's something to consider, though, because as I mentioned, it does explain a lot of what we've heard. If it's true, then this situation is really complicated, because there's no way to pay him both for what he used to be and for what he currently is at the same time. The Spurs truly believing the Kawhi of old is gone for good means they can't reasonably give him the deal, regardless of championship windows or whatever. It's a franchise-defining deal, and they can't afford to get it wrong.

EDIT: As I never did say what the other "problem" is. Kawhi being offered a max without it being fully guaranteed no matter what might be looked at as an insult. It's going to be a status thing for Curry, Harden and Russ to have those deals while Leonard doesn't. From everything we know, it would seem like a decent compromise that might even be in Leonard's favor, but it's easy to spin this as SA "trying to get him for cheap".

[cutewizard]

Agree

Most likely to the spurs advantage. He can't get supermax anywhere else and spurs have very good reason to not offer the full supermax... 40M is a nice cushion plus the fact that he would only want to be traded to a team he would want to extend with puts even more money in jeopardy.

I have a bad feeling for Kawhi that this injury is career altering at best and he's trying desperately to keep it secret and/or hope it fully resolves and not risk his next contract....problem is, he and his PR crew are putting it in jeopardy anyway with how they are handling it. I mean not showing any support for your team, not giving updates, and then trotting your sister out on Twitter to defend you? Pretty weak

The more I think about it, the more I agree with this post.

[Dingle Barry]

:lmao At people still making definitive declarations.

Unless he requests a trade after whatever discussions inevitably take place or after doing inevitable due diligence, they're not satisfied medically, why wouldn't they offer the super max (with protections)? The likely alternative is getting on the treadmill of mediocrity.

They don't have to offer it on July 1st. As long as they're on the same page by then, they can slow play this, similar to the Aldridge situation. Get him back around the team in open gym, through training camp and into a few preseason games. If all systems are a go, offer it then.

Then his leg hurts again and he disappears again. :lol

[Brazil]

Clippers ya(the infamous Matt Barnes game), but he was still good vs. OKC..IIRC, only him, Aldridge and Green played well in that series..Parker was decent for stretches..

He was Barnes bitch sat serie tbh... :lol

[Atl Spur]

He’s been in the MVP race the last two years finishing second and third....... only on spurs talk does this type of crazy become normalized!

[MoSpur02]

"IF" what Shaq is saying is true then good for the Spurs. Why invest all that moneon a player with quad issues? If his uncle or group didn't like it then too bad. If he's sitting out because he doesn't wanna risk injury the. Why are you in the NBA. Seems shady. There is risk every time you're on the court.

[TheDoctor]

Do you work through an injury? You must be a board certified Doctor huh?
Ahem.

[eDizzle20]

Shaq might be right, tbh.


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Great point by Shaq especially when Kawhi’s sister tweets, “...make sure you understand the business side of things...”.

[eDizzle20]

"IF" what Shaq is saying is true then good for the Spurs. Why invest all that moneon a player with quad issues? If his uncle or group didn't like it then too bad. If he's sitting out because he doesn't wanna risk injury the. Why are you in the NBA. Seems shady. There is risk every time you're on the court.
Supermax opportunity this summer. It’s tough for a player to qualify for it. They need to meet certain accolades and it’s crap ton more money that other teams can’t offer.

[dabom]

He was Barnes bitch sat serie tbh... :lol

Porker has been everyone's bitch for the past 4 years. Including when we rang. :lmao

[lil'mo]

Pain is not injury. Kawhi had a chance to beat a 50% Warriors and the rest of the post season is the weakest I've seen at least in 15 years, specially defensively.

A star player with a decent chance at a championship cannot sit out because of contract,pain or whatever. This is bullshit.

To me he died, honestly.

:lmao

[Amuseddaysleeper]

I can't wait until you find what Drunkford did last summer.

:lmao

[exstatic]

So, what did Shaq say? That the Spurs failed to offer him the SuperMax last summer?

[YGWHI]

OKC do you remember Roberson making fun that he was imposing his will on Kiwi? Or something to that effect?
He said that after game 2, in game 3 Kawhi scored 31 points in just 17 FGAs.

I also remember Kawhi scoring 26 pts 57% in game 5... while Pop opted to call to two P&Rs between Parker and LMA to close the game, two guys who played horrible and barely shot over .25%. in the game.
91-95...What a stupid loss.

Not bad at all
https://i.imgur.com/7qpp73L.jpg

[vander]

LOL at the per 36 minutes stat. Makes me wonder, will kawhi ever play 36 minutes in a game again?

[SAGirl]

^just one of Pops recent blunders...
Spurs would have gone home in 4 THIS Series if he doesn't step down. Regrettable the death of Ms. Pop, but that's what it comes down to. He was going to go home early with Paddy guarding Klay all series, Kyle playing barely 5-6 minutes, Dijon playing 10 minutes while he played 25 minutes of Davis (something he didn't like to do even in the regular season) and 20 minutes to Bryn while both were shooting blanks and oh Bryn guarding Durant for good measure.

The Spurs weren't going to win this series but Pop was making it so difficult for them to even have a chance tbh.

[YGWHI]

The Spurs have a HISTORY of conservative injury return protocols, as well as taking care of players when they get older, making up for some of the pay they couldn't get on the front side of their careers on the back side. By saying he's worried about being IT'd, that says that he doesn't trust an organization built on trust. That broken trust will lead to his departure.

If the Spurs aren't willing to offer him the max because his quad got worse in the summer, as Danny Green said, we can agree that Spurs doctors mishandled his injury in some way.

Was Kawhi ready to play when he already did it in mid-season and had a setback? A possible career-altering injury and they cleared him to play instead of resting Kawhi the season and looking for the treatments he didn't receive in the summer?

The trusting issues are never about just one side.

[acoelho1]

To me, it's a no-brainer to offer the supermax if Kawhi wants to stay in San Antonio especially if PAFTO believe he will get full healthy, which per their actions, they already believe he's good enough to play now. It would be a disaster to trade such a talent and I don't care how many players and draft picks we get back. The likelihood of getting another transcendent player in the deal would be very low. So the top priority should be to repair the relationship and offer the supermax. There are no other options unless Kawhi is adamant about getting out of SA, which is unlikely given he set the win percentage record through 400 games played. I guess we'll find out soon enough.

[bklynspursfan]

^just one of Pops recent blunders...
Spurs would have gone home in 4 THIS Series if he doesn't step down. Regrettable the death of Ms. Pop, but that's what it comes down to. He was going to go home early with Paddy guarding Klay all series, Kyle playing barely 5-6 minutes, Dijon playing 10 minutes while he played 25 minutes of Davis (something he didn't like to do even in the regular season) and 20 minutes to Bryn while both were shooting blanks and oh Bryn guarding Durant for good measure.

The Spurs weren't going to win this series but Pop was making it so difficult for them to even have a chance tbh.

Nah. Pop does adjust... Sometimes longer than we would have liked, but he does make match-up adjustments. It's quite possible they were following the game plan he had anyway, who knows. Those coaches do give lots of input so it's not like a dictatorship.

I actually liked their game 2 strategy, trapping Klay, he really didn't get going until late in the game. 4-28 from 3 for us tho :bang

[SAGirl]

You are free to belive what you want bkynfan... His playoffs record of late speak for themselves. As they say, the truth is in the pudding.

[DPG21920]

If the Spurs aren't willing to offer him the max because his quad got worse in the summer, as Danny Green said, we can agree that Spurs doctors mishandled his injury in some way.

Was Kawhi ready to play when he already did it in mid-season and had a setback? A possible career-altering injury and they cleared him to play instead of resting Kawhi the season and looking for the treatments he didn't receive in the summer?

The trusting issues are never about just one side.

On the flip side, we know that NOT to be true because in the only interview that Kawhi gave in early March, he himself said he was very close and already doing 4v4.

So if there was a setback, it happened under Kawhi’s doctors watch and had nothing to do with SA. His doctors found nothing different, didn’t recommend surgery and even tough he was close to playing nearly 2 months ago, he never got cleared under his doctors watch.

[Chinook]

You are free to belive what you want bkynfan... His playoffs record of late speak for themselves. As they say, the truth is in the pudding.

I think Pop's done pretty well in the playoffs recently. You make it sound like he's been getting knocked out in the first round on the regular or something, but he's only failed to make it to the semis once in the Kawhi era until this year (presumably). He adjusted as well as he could last year, but the team just had too many injuries to even win one game against GS. Against Houston, he did a great coaching job.

[SAGirl]

He has been getting knocked down of challenging but winnable series often and life ain't about to get easier or more perfect for him than teams he's had in the very recent past tbh... Truth is in the pudding. Maybe he innovates and goes back to focusing on basketball, but at 70, distraught? With a Kiwi-gate at home? I doubt it.
La!Marcus almost left him last season too. There's a lot to question about Pop lately...

[-21-]

PATFO paid Gasol and Mills. They're giving Kawhi the supermax. We should just hope he makes a full recovery.

[bklynspursfan]

I think Pop's done pretty well in the playoffs recently. You make it sound like he's been getting knocked out in the first round on the regular or something, but he's only failed to make it to the semis once in the Kawhi era until this year (presumably). He adjusted as well as he could last year, but the team just had too many injuries to even win one game against GS. Against Houston, he did a great coaching job.

Exactly... People will believe what they want tho. The facts are there

[exstatic]

You are free to belive what you want bkynfan... His playoffs record of late speak for themselves. As they say, the truth is in the pudding.


He has been getting knocked down of challenging but winnable series often and life ain't about to get easier or more perfect for him than teams he's had in the very recent past tbh... Truth is in the pudding. Maybe he innovates and goes back to focusing on basketball, but at 70, distraught? With a Kiwi-gate at home? I doubt it.
La!Marcus almost left him last season too. There's a lot to question about Pop lately...

You really need to learn your aphorisms. It's "The PROOF is in the pudding".

[SAGirl]

^ thanks for the correction... Not only do I post from a tablet at times but English is not my first language.

[exstatic]

If the Spurs aren't willing to offer him the max because his quad got worse in the summer, as Danny Green said, we can agree that Spurs doctors mishandled his injury in some way.

Was Kawhi ready to play when he already did it in mid-season and had a setback? A possible career-altering injury and they cleared him to play instead of resting Kawhi the season and looking for the treatments he didn't receive in the summer?

The trusting issues are never about just one side.

You have to look at the history. The Spurs have ZERO record of rushing players back or even letting them play injured. Pop probably cost SA the Utah series in 98 because he wouldn't let TD play one game on a minor ankle sprain. He also held him out of the 2000 playoffs after he had meniscus smoothing minor scope surgery weeks before. THE SPURS DON'T TREAT PLAYERS LIKE MEAT. Never have, never will. Some people's blind PATFO hate causes them to project, but it's not true.

Now what I CAN see is that with Kawhi's china doll history, and games missed over his career that the Spurs wanted safeguards built in to any offer. That's just smart business. His best season of durability was his rookie year, and he played 64/66 games in the lockout shortened season. Other than that, his reliability has been questionable. He has averaged 66.8 games per season since, and that's throwing out this year's 9 game season, which I consider to be a medical hold out. You can't break the bank for a player who only plays 81% of your games, especially not the SuperMax. That guy has to be a horse, and Kawhi isn't.

[ernest787]

LOL. people blaming Pop for a playoff loss against the Warriors when it's obvious this team is hot garbage and probably shouldn't even be in the playoffs.

[Brazil]

Porker has been everyone's bitch for the past 4 years. Including when we rang. :lmao

:lmao a franchise player top 3 of the league being Matt Barnes bitch
:lmao a franchise player cleared to play sitting all year because of the NBA business side of the things
:lmao a franchise player who cannot speak for himself letting his sister and uncle do the dirty job

oh and

:lmao Fatty Mills

[duncan2k5]

^ thanks for the correction... Not only do I post from a tablet at times but English is not my first language.

What is?

[dabom]

:lmao a franchise player top 3 of the league being Matt Barnes bitch
:lmao a franchise player cleared to play sitting all year because of the NBA business side of the things
:lmao a franchise player who cannot speak for himself letting his sister and uncle do the dirty job

oh and

:lmao Fatty Mills

Porker stole 45 mils. :lmao

Atleast MVPatty earns his fucking money. :lmao

Calling out the Franchise and then playing like shit. :lmao

Only getting a new contract this summer out of loyalty. :lmao

Plays like a dleaguer. :lmaol

[dabom]

Wasted Timmy Ds last years on a fucking bum pg. :lmao

[spurs10]

We should just hope he makes a full recovery. :toast

[Brazil]

Porker stole 45 mils. :lmao

Atleast MVPatty earns his fucking money. :lmao

Calling out the Franchise and then playing like shit. :lmao

Only getting a new contract this summer out of loyalty. :lmao

Plays like a dleaguer. :lmaol

:lmao Parker actually playing
:lmao Fatty earning his fucking money
:lmao old fart Parker healing faster than 26 y/o franchise player
:lmao advocating franchise player getting a fat contract because was underpaid before
:lmao not playing at all
:lmao still defending the undefendable

:cry but but Kawhi will come back before season ends :cry

[dabom]

:lmao Parker actually playing
:lmao Fatty earning his fucking money
:lmao old fart Parker healing faster than 26 y/o franchise player
:lmao advocating franchise player getting a fat contract because was underpaid before
:lmao not playing at all
:lmao still defending the undefendable

:cry but but Kawhi will come back before season ends :cry

Porker actually hurting the team while playing. :lmao

MVPatty is a fucking starter while fat fuck plays 6 minutes in the playoffs. :lmao

Healing and playing like shit is worse than not playing at all. :lmao

:cry rip in peace porker circa 2015 :cry




























:lmao

[Crazymaddopeyo]

^just one of Pops recent blunders...
Spurs would have gone home in 4 THIS Series if he doesn't step down. Regrettable the death of Ms. Pop, but that's what it comes down to. He was going to go home early with Paddy guarding Klay all series, Kyle playing barely 5-6 minutes, Dijon playing 10 minutes while he played 25 minutes of Davis (something he didn't like to do even in the regular season) and 20 minutes to Bryn while both were shooting blanks and oh Bryn guarding Durant for good measure.

The Spurs weren't going to win this series but Pop was making it so difficult for them to even have a chance tbh.

If these guys make 15 threes for pop it definitely doesn’t end in four.

[Brazil]

Porker actually hurting the team while playing. :lmao

MVPatty is a fucking starter while fat fuck plays 6 minutes in the playoffs. :lmao

Healing and playing like shit is worse than not playing at all. :lmao

:cry rip in peace porker circa 2015 :cry




























:lmao

funny you said that

:lmao Fatty actually also hurting the team
:lmao signing a fatty contract and playing like shit afterwards
:lmao becoming a worst version of tosb Parker at not even 30 y/o
:lmao not healing and playing like shit

[TD 21]

Notice how his sister tried to debunk the "is he or isn't he injured?" question, but says nothing about whether he's still committed to the Spurs.



When is the cutoff point for them being able to offer the Supermax? Can they offer it all the way up until just before the season starts? I don't think Kawhi would be too happy with that, though. If they waited that long, he could ask out before then.

The day before the regular season begins. Like I said, they could slow play this if they're on the same page, but don't want to come off as kowtowing to him. In reality, the entire franchise is in limbo, so they should look to resolve this as soon as possible.

[r0drig0lac]

Yall are stupid for talking about Kawhi’s mom and sister’s appearance. Just dumb .

[coachmac87]

Notice how his sister tried to debunk the "is he or isn't he injured?" question, but says nothing about whether he's still committed to the
The day before the regular season begins. Like I said, they could slow play this if they're on the same page, but don't want to come off as kowtowing to him. In reality, the entire franchise is in limbo, so they should look to resolve this as soon as possible.




She put #Spurs


That’s a fucking commitment :lol

[Lakers999]

I think Pop is looking at this "NO TRADE" to WC teams let alone the lakers a little narrow. Kawhii is a free agent after next season anyways. If he is dictating where he wants to go why don't you send him where he wants to go. There is still a 50/50 chance that kawhii might pull a Dwight and leave the Lakers after one season. if you think about it You guys can end up with Julius Randle in a sign and trade and possibly Brandon Ingram on the wing with a Cleveland #1 draft pick. Randle and Ingram under Pop will thrive with LMA and the spurs will still make the playoffs next season....

[FvckMavs]

I think Pop is looking at this "NO TRADE" to WC teams let alone the lakers a little narrow. Kawhii is a free agent after next season anyways. If he is dictating where he wants to go why don't you send him where he wants to go. There is still a 50/50 chance that kawhii might pull a Dwight and leave the Lakers after one season. if you think about it You guys can end up with Julius Randle in a sign and trade and possibly Brandon Ingram on the wing with a Cleveland #1 draft pick. Randle and Ingram under Pop will thrive with LMA and the spurs will still make the playoffs next season....

FTL!

[duncan2k5]

Kawhi doesn't want to leave... Stop making stuff up for God sakes

[Lakers999]

FTL!

yea kind of like how game 5 will go for you guys

[dabom]

She put #Spurs


That’s a fucking commitment :lol

:lol

[UZER]

It’s time for a clean break from Kawhi. He can never be counted on to be 100% again. For the rest of his career, at any moment, the quad can flare up and he can be out for a long time, even during the middle of a playoff run. Not to mention all the drama he’s caused this year.

Just get the best deal available and move on. It’s time for the franchise to turn the page as a whole anyway.

[duncan2k5]

It’s time for a clean break from Kawhi. He can never be counted on to be 100% again. For the rest of his career, at any moment, the quad can flare up and he can be out for a long time, even during the middle of a playoff run. Not to mention all the drama he’s caused this year.

Just get the best deal available and move on. It’s time for the franchise to turn the page as a whole anyway.

I'm lost... What drama did he cause? And that's a silly argument... ANY player's injury can flare up anytime... Should GS get rid of curry because of his ankle? How about Philly ditch Ben Simmons too? He also was out for an entire year

[DejuanorwhatDude]

I'm lost... What drama did he cause? And that's a silly argument... ANY player's injury can flare up anytime... Should GS get rid of curry because of his ankle? How about Philly ditch Ben Simmons too? He also was out for an entire year

One missed his rookie year and still has his entire rookie deal and RFA period to play out. The other has a player option in 12 months and can leave the Spurs high and dry(and even if he does stay he can be tainted goods).

And even if he isnt tainted goods, the team around him is garbage and we'd be in the second round and out instead of the first. So why keep a player who is injury prone, lacks the ability to be a leader, and would require a near complete team overhaul to get back into championship contention with?

[Clipper Nation]

:lmao Parker actually playing
:lol That's putting it generously, tbh.

[UZER]

I'm lost... What drama did he cause? And that's a silly argument... ANY player's injury can flare up anytime... Should GS get rid of curry because of his ankle? How about Philly ditch Ben Simmons too? He also was out for an entire year

Directly or indirectly, his injury is the story of the Spurs season. And if you don’t think there is / was drama, you’re being naive.

[tholdren]

Directly or indirectly, his injury is the story of the Spurs season. And if you don’t think there is / was drama, you’re being naive.

[Slippy]

Kawhi allows his family members to deal with his affairs way too much.

Although his mum showing up for the game is a sign of support to pop & the spurs. Credit to her.

[YGWHI]

On the flip side, we know that NOT to be true because in the only interview that Kawhi gave in early March, he himself said he was very close and already doing 4v4.

So if there was a setback, it happened under Kawhi’s doctors watch and had nothing to do with SA. His doctors found nothing different, didn’t recommend surgery and even tough he was close to playing nearly 2 months ago, he never got cleared under his doctors watch.

Is not true because he had other setback under his own doctors? We read articles and watched TV shows where guys said they found "something.

Also, those doctors already DID something different that Spurs' doctors, they didn't clear him to play and opted to continue rehabbing him

Edit: There is a "there's a level of unpredictability involved with rehabilitation from quadriceps tendinopathy" that makes it difficult to clear a player is he's not 100%.

[YGWHI]

You have to look at the history. The Spurs have ZERO record of rushing players back or even letting them play injured. Pop probably cost SA the Utah series in 98 because he wouldn't let TD play one game on a minor ankle sprain. He also held him out of the 2000 playoffs after he had meniscus smoothing minor scope surgery weeks before. THE SPURS DON'T TREAT PLAYERS LIKE MEAT. Never have, never will. Some people's blind PATFO hate causes them to project, but it's not true.
Having a great record on something doesn't mean that a professional is infallible. In every pro league, injury-mistakes happened.


Now what I CAN see is that with Kawhi's china doll history, and games missed over his career that the Spurs wanted safeguards built in to any offer. That's just smart business. His best season of durability was his rookie year, and he played 64/66 games in the lockout shortened season. Other than that, his reliability has been questionable. He has averaged 66.8 games per season since, and that's throwing out this year's 9 game season, which I consider to be a medical hold out. You can't break the bank for a player who only plays 81% of your games, especially not the SuperMax. That guy has to be a horse, and Kawhi isn't.
Curry, AD, Wall..There are many super-max players as franchise-guys who are injury-prone.

[exstatic]

Having a great record on something doesn't mean that a professional is infallible. In every pro league, injury-mistakes happened.

.
Curry, AD, Wall..There are many super-max players as franchise-guys who are injury-prone.

AD isn’t on a SuperMax yet. Like Kawhi, he didn’t meet the criteria until he was out of his rookie deal. Washington should have traded Wall. They’re going nowhere fast, and now have that albatross contract. It’s almost like KG in Minny. His contract is so huge, they can’t get him any more help, so they’re stuck. Curry’s team has 3other all stars to backstop the team when he’s out. Not really a similar situation at all. His missing time doesn’t have the adverse affect that a one star team would feel.

[offset formation]

yea kind of like how game 5 will go for you guys

Which playoff game # were you playing in again?

[Lakers999]

Which playoff game # were you playing in again?

We prefer the wait and see approach. LOL

[duncan2k5]

One missed his rookie year and still has his entire rookie deal and RFA period to play out. The other has a player option in 12 months and can leave the Spurs high and dry(and even if he does stay he can be tainted goods).

And even if he isnt tainted goods, the team around him is garbage and we'd be in the second round and out instead of the first. So why keep a player who is injury prone, lacks the ability to be a leader, and would require a near complete team overhaul to get back into championship contention with?

U wasn't saying he lacks leadership last year when u was on his dick

[duncan2k5]

AD isn’t on a SuperMax yet. Like Kawhi, he didn’t meet the criteria until he was out of his rookie deal. Washington should have traded Wall. They’re going nowhere fast, and now have that albatross contract. It’s almost like KG in Minny. His contract is so huge, they can’t get him any more help, so they’re stuck. Curry’s team has 3other all stars to backstop the team when he’s out. Not really a similar situation at all. His missing time doesn’t have the adverse affect that a one star team would feel.

None of what u said disputes the fact that they're all supermax level players that are injury prone

[exstatic]

None of what u said disputes the fact that they're all supermax level players that are injury prone

If your friend jumped off a cliff, would you? Smart people and organizations are not lemmings.

[Chawaman]

kawhileonardofficialfanpage@trentscameron he has addressed he wants to be a Spurs I guess you missed that back in March. Lol He never left. U sound like a doubter who assumes and makes speculations. Good luck with that... You know what they say about assuming right? ��


kawhileonardofficialfanpage@jnrvillanueva I dont need to say anything more than what was said.. If you did your so called homework and paid attention Kawhi has mentioned he wants to be a Spur for life. So once again have serveral seats until you have proven facts backed with Truth. Keep believing the hype if you to. @mylovelytexashome Thank you for clarifying that this guy has no idea... smh

[MoSpur02]

Hopefully what his sister is saying is true and hopefully the relationship between the Spurs and Kawhi is patched up.

[r0drig0lac]

kawhileonardofficialfanpage@trentscameron he has addressed he wants to be a Spurs I guess you missed that back in March. Lol He never left. U sound like a doubter who assumes and makes speculations. Good luck with that... You know what they say about assuming right? ��


kawhileonardofficialfanpage@jnrvillanueva I dont need to say anything more than what was said.. If you did your so called homework and paid attention Kawhi has mentioned he wants to be a Spur for life. So once again have serveral seats until you have proven facts backed with Truth. Keep believing the hype if you to. @mylovelytexashome Thank you for clarifying that this guy has no idea... smh

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[tholdren]

Kawhis sister looks like she would have toenails so long they curl. And painted all different colors and have sparkles

[spurs10]

kawhileonardofficialfanpage@trentscameron he has addressed he wants to be a Spurs I guess you missed that back in March. Lol He never left. U sound like a doubter who assumes and makes speculations. Good luck with that... You know what they say about assuming right? ��


kawhileonardofficialfanpage@jnrvillanueva I dont need to say anything more than what was said.. If you did your so called homework and paid attention Kawhi has mentioned he wants to be a Spur for life. So once again have serveral seats until you have proven facts backed with Truth. Keep believing the hype if you to. @mylovelytexashome Thank you for clarifying that this guy has no idea... smh
Yes, no one has said anything, but this except media people stirring the pot. It's makes them crazy that Kawhi doesn't give them anything. Pop said it succinctly, "He's in New York trying to get healthy."

[tholdren]

?

You mean thats more dumb than the 5 pages that came before the post....? Probably not

[Atl Spur]

You mean thats more dumb than the 5 pages that came before the post....? Probably not

That family don’t owe you anything; quit acting like a Girl Scout.

[cd021]

It’s time for a clean break from Kawhi. He can never be counted on to be 100% again. For the rest of his career, at any moment, the quad can flare up and he can be out for a long time, even during the middle of a playoff run. Not to mention all the drama he’s caused this year.

Just get the best deal available and move on. It’s time for the franchise to turn the page as a whole anyway.


Pretty amazing that we have a guy with a heart condition, carrying the team to the playoffs while our number 1 option basically peaced- out in January because he felt discomfort.

[daslicer]

Pretty amazing that we have a guy with a heart condition, carrying the team to the playoffs while our number 1 option basically peaced- out in January because he felt discomfort.

Didn't watch the Warriors-Pelicans game tonight but I heard Draymond man handled Davis and guarded him for most of the game with single coverage. Goes to show you how effective LMA was in that series considering how the Warriors had to double him a bunch of times and only had Draymond guard him for 5 minute stretches during games.

[cd021]

Didn't watch the Warriors-Pelicans game tonight but I heard Draymond man handled Davis and guarded him for most of the game with single coverage. Goes to show you how effective LMA was in that series considering how the Warriors had to double him a bunch of times and only had Draymond guard him for 5 minute stretches during games.

Think he played well against GSW all year. His numbers in the playoffs are particularly eye-popping; 23.6 ppg on 16 FGA, 9 RPG, 2.5 APG, 8 FTA, 96% FT
Got to the line to make up for only hitting 45% from the field (41-42 from the line) and lead the team in Net Rtg with +9.

[tholdren]

That family is ugly. His mom and his sister look like swamp rats

[Atl Spur]

I’m sure..........

[exstatic]

Didn't watch the Warriors-Pelicans game tonight but I heard Draymond man handled Davis and guarded him for most of the game with single coverage. Goes to show you how effective LMA was in that series considering how the Warriors had to double him a bunch of times and only had Draymond guard him for 5 minute stretches during games.

Raymond is showing his real position. He is truly an SF, and is much more effective guarding face up players than he is post up players. Davis is really an outsized SF.

[tholdren]

I’m sure glad i let 2 guys give me a naked rub down...........