Tony is coming back per his own words

[SuperCam]

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Still the best PG on the roster, tbh. all others are SGs or fake pgs that don't pass the ball or shoot well

[Robz4000]

All a question of money. If he comes on the cheap I'm all for it. If not he can kick rocks.

[HarlemHeat37]

Ugh, Murray-Parker PG rotation is a disgrace to the game of basketball..

[daslicer]

He's ready to collect free paychecks for the next few years.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

Parker will be back, he is hardly our problem. He will get a decent sized loyalty contract. Im all for it. He can probably teach Murray a thing or two.

[SpurPadre]

He's ready to collect free paychecks for the next few years.

And likely fuck another teammate's wife. Hope it's Kawhi's if that bitch comes back tbh.

[duncan2k5]

Good lord, retire already! One year older and one year worse... Taking up playing time our young PGs need to grow... Then ppl wonder why they aren't better...

[Floyd Pacquiao]

That's disheartening....

[Uriel]

Hollinger wrote before that mileage is a better indicator of retirement than chronological age. Parker thinks he can still play because he's "only" 35 years old. But he's got so much mileage on his body from playing professionally as a teenager to playing internationally during the summer that he might as well be 40.

It's time to retire, Tony.

[spursparker9]

1 word. Leadership

[DPG21920]

He also said he would wait to see what happens in FA. He wants the Spurs but knows it’s a business.

[spursistan]

wrong thread..

[BatManu20]

Please God no.... It's time to move on. Seriously. Parker's a Spurs legend and a future HOFer but enough is enough. He's done. Spurs need to cut ties and move on.

[NASpurs]

These old fucking delusional dinosaurs need to fucking move on and stop holding the team hostage.

[HarlemHeat37]

Pau just said he's coming back, as well:lmao

[Ellsworth]

WHiTe FLaG should demand to be traded immediately (maybe to Denver :lol) if He's not guaranteed to be the PG next season... he's earned his stripes by sacrificing his rookie season that just ended :depressed

[BatManu20]

We're going to bring back the same exact team, aren't we. Gross.


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If you listened to his post game, it sounded less than optimistic when he addressed the Kawhi situation.

There's a divorce on the horizon, one way or another, iyam.

[TheGreatYacht]

And likely fuck another teammate's wife. Hope it's Kawhi's if that bitch comes back tbh.
Did he fuck your wife's taco bro? Serious question. You talk about it every day :lol

[Spurtacular]

I wanted to make a thread that if Parker came back he was selfish; and a part of me believes that. But I decided to give him the benefit of the doubt and hope for the best.

[DPG21920]

Pau just said he's coming back, as well:lmao

He’s under contract bro :lol. He’s not retiring so that is not a shocker.

[BatManu20]

Bringing back Tony and Pau while trading Kawhi would be the most depressing thing to happen to San Antonio since 6. And might actually be worse, cause there's no potential redemption next season if that happens.

[DPG21920]

Manu looked as bad as TP not too long ago before his resurgence

[SpurPadre]

Did he fuck your wife's taco bro? Serious question. You talk about it every day :lol

Just trying to bait you bro tbh. I actually admire him for still remaining on the team after doing that tbh.

[TheRemix]

We're going to bring back the same exact team, aren't we. Gross.


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most efficient? uh what?

[NASpurs]

Manu looked as bad as TP not too long ago before his resurgence

Parker also had an injury “100x worse” than Kawhi at 35.

[DAF86]

Manu looked as bad as TP not too long ago before his resurgence

Son, stop it.

[HarlemHeat37]

Manu looked as bad as TP not too long ago before his resurgence
I know, I was hoping he would retire..he already looks like he couldn't give a fuck about playing basketball whenever he enters the game:lol

[DPG21920]

Son, stop it.

He did. Manu looked beyond washed my friend for a full year.

[gambit1990]

Manu looked as bad as TP not too long ago before his resurgence
what matters is that manu isn't as bad as tp.

[HarlemHeat37]

I love TP, but I was very disappointed that he played so poorly after calling Kawhi out in public..his comments made the situation much, much worse..he could have at least provided something on the court for some relief..

[DAF86]

He did. Manu looked beyond washed my friend for a full year.

When did that happen?

[DPG21920]

When did that happen?

:lol

[DAF86]

:lol

Seriously son. It certainly wasn't this full year, tbh.

[DPG21920]

If you listened to his post game, it sounded less than optimistic when he addressed the Kawhi situation.

There's a divorce on the horizon, one way or another, iyam.

What are you referring to? When they asked him about how this season was different than any other and he said let’s keep it at that?

[SpurPadre]

I love TP, but I was very disappointed that he played so poorly after calling Kawhi out in public..his comments made the situation much, much worse..he could have at least provided something on the court for some relief..

The body can't do what the mind wants. His wheels have fallen off, sadly.

[Spur|n|Austin]

People thinking Spurs org is cutting ties with Tp have a rude awakening coming. Personally I think he’ll be back and that’s fine. It’ll be in the role he played in the second half of this season; very limited.

[gambit1990]

hopefully kawhi gets healthy and tony goes to a contender so he can make them worse.

[NASpurs]

Can’t wait for that 12:01 loyalty contract.

[Ice009]

Manu has actually looked better to me in 2017 and 2018 than he did in 2015 and 2016.

Edit : Was referring to the playoffs. He's looked a lot better to me in the past two playoffs than he did in the two prior to these ones.

[DAF86]

:lol

Still waiting to see which was the full year where Manu looked as washed up as Tony this season.

[Spur|n|Austin]

I love TP, but I was very disappointed that he played so poorly after calling Kawhi out in public..his comments made the situation much, much worse..he could have at least provided something on the court for some relief..

Yeah, so could’ve Kawhi.

To say that Tony’s comments warranted him to play better in absence of a top 5 player in the league is silly. The guy is almost 40. He was calling a spade a spade.

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What are you referring to? When they asked him about how this season was different than any other and he said let’s keep it at that?Yes. But as much as what he said, it was his body language/tone that struck me.I got the feeling that if Kawhi is back, Tony won't be. And visa-versa.

[DPG21920]

And if you are saying what TP said in direct response to a question and him basically just telling the truth was calling out Kawhi that is weak as hell.

[DPG21920]

Still waiting to see which was the full year where Manu looked as washed up as Tony this season.

I”m not engaging with you on this any further :lol.

[gambit1990]

Still waiting to see which was the full year where Manu looked as washed up as Tony this season.

[DAF86]

I”m not engaging with you on this any further :lol.

Of course not. You were just throwing shit at the wall and seeing if it would stick without anybody calling you out on it.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

You all better pray the kings offer him a 1 year 16 million leadership contract. That's the only way to get this ball and chain off us.

[Ditty]

Manu was really bad at times in the 2013 post season, but he was not washed up to the point that Tony looks now.

[DPG21920]

Of course not. You were just throwing shit at the wall and seeing if it would stick without anybody calling you out on it.

:lmao

[gambit1990]

Of course not. You were just throwing shit at the wall and seeing if it would stick without anybody calling you out on it.
:tu

[ElNono]

Honestly, don't care about the comparisons, but no other relatively significant Spur has looked this washed up... not even Duncan at the tail end...

Just concerning that the alleged reason for returning is providing leadership from the bench...

He's a soldier though, and the Spurs will do right by him...

[Dancelot]

I’m good with this if he’s 3rd. I think white needs to be the backup.

[Brunodf]

He probably will have a better season than this one tbh

I don't believe he was fully recovered...

[DAF86]

:lmao

Capitulations don't get more obvious than this son. God bless. :lol

[DAF86]

I’m good with this if he’s 3rd. I think white needs to be the backup.

White the Starting PG, Murray the backup and Tony the 3rd string and mentor. I'm totally cool with that. But if White doesn't see minutes next season because of Tony, that's some grade A bullshit.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Manu was really bad at times in the 2013 post season, but he was not washed up to the point that Tony looks now.

Yeah Tony is done, agreed. Though I’d be fine with him in the continual limited role.

[Stabula]

I think Tony will come back and have a better season than he did this year.

[Ellsworth]

White the Starting PG, Murray the backup and Tony the 3rd string and mentor. I'm totally cool with that. But if White doesn't see minutes next season because of Tony, that's some grade A bullshit.

*Priorities... :toast

[gambit1990]

how much cap space does he take up?

[DPG21920]

how much cap space does he take up?

Depends. If SA makes moves, I think he takes what’s left. If SA blows it up, they can pay him like they did Manu with that loyalty contract the year before because it doesn’t matter at that point.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Ugh

[gambit1990]

He probably will have a better season than this one tbh

I don't believe he was fully recovered...

I think Tony will come back and have a better season than he did this year.
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snap out of it. he's gonna be older and slower. doesn't have lift when he shoots and never was a a shooter to begin with. not a natural PG either.

it's exactly like charles used to say... "you don't get better, you get older." it is what it is.

[Chinook]

I can understand it. Most guys probably feel like this Kawhi shit fucked up a good year, and they don't want it to end like that. There are a number of off-season scenarios where Tony coming back makes sense. As I said before, give him one more year to see if his injury is still affecting him. Don't depend on him to be the guy, but give him the chance. If he can show something, let him get his 20 years. If he can't, cut him off at 18. Regardless, let him get another summer with Murray to work on some offensive moves.

[daslicer]

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snap out of it. he's gonna be older and slower. doesn't have lift when he shoots and never was a a shooter to begin with. not a natural PG either.

it's exactly like charles used to say... "you don't get better, you get older." it is what it is.

This Parker is going to be even worse next year. He's hoping to get a Kobe legacy contract.

[J_Paco]

Honestly, don't care about the comparisons, but no other relatively significant Spur has looked this washed up... not even Duncan at the tail end...

Just concerning that the alleged reason for returning is providing leadership from the bench...

He's a soldier though, and the Spurs will do right by him...

I call bullshit. Timmy looked like absolute toast against OKC. You had Steven fucking Adams & Enes Kanter throwing T.D. around like a rag doll. Two dudes, while average to good, Timmy would have shit on even the season prior.

I agree that Tony looks completely done, whatever semblance of an NBA game he had left was lost last May, but sadly Timmy got exposed against OKC and really in those entire playoffs.

Which was the saddest moment as a Spurs fan for me.

[ElNono]

I call bullshit. Timmy looked like absolute toast against OKC. You had Steven fucking Adams & Enes Kanter throwing T.D. around like a rag doll. Two dudes, while average to good, Timmy would have shit on even the season prior.

I agree that Tony looks completely done, whatever semblance of an NBA game he had left was lost last May, but sadly Timmy got exposed against OKC and really in those entire playoffs.

Which was the saddest moment as a Spurs fan for me.

He was much more handicapped than the previous season, but he still played 61 games, averaged 8/8 and led the team in blocks (yes, in one leg), in just 25 mins per game.

Yes, he was overmatched in that OKC series, and it was clear the physical game was not there anymore, but he had a pretty decent season. Tony's season has just been horrible, like you said, since last May.

It's not his fault either, tbh, he's younger, and I bet he wanted to give it a shot... but at this point you gotta be realistic, tbh

[HarlemHeat37]

^^At least Duncan looked finished against other NBA starting players..

TP looks bad, despite playing against bench competition, players like Quinn Cook..he showed us how easy it was to be a 6th man in the Spurs system for like 3 games, but it all went downhill from there..

[Ice009]

I call bullshit. Timmy looked like absolute toast against OKC. You had Steven fucking Adams & Enes Kanter throwing T.D. around like a rag doll. Two dudes, while average to good, Timmy would have shit on even the season prior.

I agree that Tony looks completely done, whatever semblance of an NBA game he had left was lost last May, but sadly Timmy got exposed against OKC and really in those entire playoffs.

Which was the saddest moment as a Spurs fan for me.

TD only looked bad because he hurt his "good knee" earlier in the season. That is the main reason he looked bad. He didn't decline halfway through the 2015/2016 season to the end of that season. He had a knee injury that stopped him from playing at the level he was playing prior to that injury.

I think you guys are forgetting about TD's knee injury to his good knee. He was playing pretty well before that.

[Pauleta14]

Manu looked as bad as TP not too long ago before his resurgence

That's the only hope we can have, his limited PT even during his good game made me think the docs probably requested it not to take any risk. Maybe he wasn't playing at 100% of his (today's) capabilities...

Because his production doesn't even justify the vet min, it's not like he even has the personality to be a leader behind the scene or another coach on the bench, he is too silent for that.

[AFBlue]

DPG spot on about Manu a couple years back. Hell, people were calling Tim done in 2011.

I think it's unfair to put Tony "out to pasture" based on two things...he still may not be fully recovered from the tear, and he never really adjusted his game to suit his new role. If he's given the off-season, I think we could see a mini-resurgence.

[r0drig0lac]

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[SAGirl]

I call bullshit. Timmy looked like absolute toast against OKC. You had Steven fucking Adams & Enes Kanter throwing T.D. around like a rag doll. Two dudes, while average to good, Timmy would have shit on even the season prior.

I agree that Tony looks completely done, whatever semblance of an NBA game he had left was lost last May, but sadly Timmy got exposed against OKC and really in those entire playoffs.

Which was the saddest moment as a Spurs fan for me.
And Timmy knew it was over then and retire. His one good knee gave up on him mid way through the season and much as he tried to rehab it he was done. We all knew it. Time came. Time has come for Tony... when I saw him not be able to get by even the slowest big men, botching a fast break... which used to be a strength of his... etc. I know he will be back and hope a summer of further rehab will help him bc if he’s going to be back, I don’t want him to look like that again.

Statistically outside of shooters in major slumps like Danny, Davis, abd Forbes, he was the worst performer for San Antonio against Quin Cook. We aren’t talking Iguodala here...

[MaNu4Tres]

DPG spot on about Manu a couple years back. Hell, people were calling Tim done in 2011.

I think it's unfair to put Tony "out to pasture" based on two things...he still may not be fully recovered from the tear, and he never really adjusted his game to suit his new role. If he's given the off-season, I think we could see a mini-resurgence.

Tim & Manu were able to still be positives overall despite their regression offensively because they were positive defenders.

Tony has stopped being an overall positive for 3 years now because he can not defend anyone well.

It's an entirely different situation than TD/ Manu.

[lefty]

:pctoss

[hater]

:lmao Manutards

[lefty]

:lmao Manutards
Clearly TP was better than Manu during the playoffs


Lol I lied

[hater]

:lmao Manutards

[lefty]

:lmao Manutards
:lol tbh

[gambit1990]

DPG spot on about Manu a couple years back. Hell, people were calling Tim done in 2011.

I think it's unfair to put Tony "out to pasture" based on two things...he still may not be fully recovered from the tear, and he never really adjusted his game to suit his new role. If he's given the off-season, I think we could see a mini-resurgence.
:lol


Tim & Manu were able to still be positives overall despite their regression offensively because they were positive defenders.

Tony has stopped being an overall positive for 3 years now because he can not defend anyone well.

It's an entirely different situation than TD/ Manu.
exactly.

people who give tony the benefit of the doubt, it seems like defense is incomprehensible to them. the blatant disregard ... why

[TimDunkem]

Tony hurts this team more than he helps. It's disappointing to know he'll be getting minutes for at least the next 3 years.

[Texas_Ranger]

i am not surprised kawhi doesn't wanna play here. get the fuck out you corpses. The only way i'd sign tp is for a minimum.

[daslicer]

:lmao Manutards

This

[CGD]

Give him the Manu deal 5m total for two years.

[Mikeanaro]

Tim & Manu were able to still be positives overall despite their regression offensively because they were positive defenders.

Tony has stopped being an overall positive for 3 years now because he can not defend anyone well.

It's an entirely different situation than TD/ Manu.

Because he is not at that level, weakest link of the Big 3.

His legs had enough which sucks since our others guards cant pass to save their lives.
Unless White gets some minutes, Forbes is crap, Murray is not a PG, and Patty is a napoleonic SG.

[TimDunkem]

i am not surprised kawhi doesn't wanna play here. get the fuck out you corpses. The only way i'd sign tp is for a minimum.

Sucks knowing that he will likely not take the minimum and, even if he does, there will be plenty of other better options out there ready to take the minimum.

The mummies are beginning to hold the team back. Even Manu and his play does in the sense that it convinces Pop and Co. to never seek a replacement.

[Mikeanaro]

Anyway he said he wants to be like Manu, but 40 is too much so 38 years old was his plan.

[BackHome]

He is done he is a shelll of his former self it will not be good for him or the team if he stays pe

[superbigtime]

I don't want TP to retire, I want him to want to retire instead of hanging on. Pau needs to hang em up too. Damn we get a lot ALOT of old dudes on this squad year after year (don't mind Manu though, ha). Kurt Thomas, McDyess, van Exel. So many old dudes over the years. Damn I hate the offseason.