House chaplain fired

[RandomGuy]

"May all members be mindful that the institutions and structures of our great nation guarantee the opportunities that have allowed some to achieve great success, while others continue to struggle. May their efforts these days guarantee that there are not winners and losers under new tax laws, but benefits balanced and shared by all Americans."--Chaplain Conroy, Nov 6, 2017

This seems to have been the last straw. First straw was probably the Jesuit's allowing an Imam to offer a prayer on opening.

The "religious liberty" crowd doesn't seem to like religious liberty when it isn't THEIR religion.

Of course some Republicans in congress were pretty clear about their preferences for a NON-Catholic replacement.

"I’m looking for somebody who has a little age, that has adult children, that kind of can connect with the bulk of the body here, Republicans and Democrats who are going through, back home the wife, the family. -"North Carolina Republican Mark Walker

I guess we shouldn't have any of them celibate Catholics...

I'm sure he was talking about letting an imam do it. :rolleyes

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the oligarchy controls the

"institutions and structures of our great nation guarantee the opportunities that have allowed some to achieve great success"

of the oligarchy

"Guaranteed winners" and "guaranteed losers" was the entire strategy of the oligarchy with the Repug tax law

[RandomGuy]

Listen to them crickets...

[Pavlov]

Obviously not religious enough.

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Brian Schatz
✔@brianschatz (https://twitter.com/brianschatz)


To talk about religious freedom and

then fire the House priest

because you didn’t like what he said about your bill is

an absurdly perfect encapsulation of what has happened to the GOP.

10:27 AM - Apr 27, 2018 (https://twitter.com/brianschatz/status/989888813462798336)

[Spurtacular]

Listen to them crickets...

How could they not respond to your blather? :lol
I'm beginning to understand why you prefer to plagiarize your OPs. :lol

[Pavlov]

How could they not respond to your blather? :lol
I'm beginning to understand why you prefer to plagiarize your OPs. :lolOK, why do you think the house chaplain was fired?

[Winehole23]

Representative Mark Walker, Republican of North Carolina and a Baptist minister, said Thursday in an interview with The Hill (http://thehill.com/homenews/house/385097-conservative-leader-next-house-chaplain-should-have-a-family) newspaper that he hoped the next chaplain of the House might come from a nondenominational church tradition who could relate to members with wives and children.

[RandomGuy]

How could they not respond to your blather? :lol
I'm beginning to understand why you prefer to plagiarize your OPs. :lol

Why do you think the house chaplain was fired?

[RandomGuy]

Representative Mark Walker, Republican of North Carolina and a Baptist minister, said Thursday in an interview with The Hill newspaper that he hoped the next chaplain of the House might come from a nondenominational church tradition who could relate to members with wives and children.

I guess we shouldn't have any of them celibate Catholics...

[Spurtacular]

Why do you think the house chaplain was fired?

I wouldn't know from your blather, certainly. :lol

[AaronY]

Dude was making $170k so its good he was fired and hopefully he doesnt get replaced

[Chris]

I wouldn't know from your blather, certainly. :lol

:lol

[pgardn]

the oligarchy controls the

"institutions and structures of our great nation guarantee the opportunities that have allowed some to achieve great success"

of the oligarchy

"Guaranteed winners" and "guaranteed losers" was the entire strategy of the oligarchy with the Repug tax law








The Oligarchy fired the Chaplain.
There is always a blame-route to the Oligarchy.

The one mighty single minded ball of power led by Bezozs, Buffet, Koch, anything Walmart, everything HobbyLobby, Zuckerberg, Cambridge Analytica. These folks are tight.

[pgardn]

I wouldn't know from your blather, certainly. :lol


:lol

Derp
Derp

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The Oligarchy fired the Chaplain.
There is always a blame-route to the Oligarchy.

The one mighty single minded ball of power led by Bezozs, Buffet, Koch, anything Walmart, everything HobbyLobby, Zuckerberg, Cambridge Analytica. These folks are tight.

you're finally catching on. The oligarchy owns the political class. Preacher-firing whore Paul Ryan is paid to satisfy the oligarchy's slightest desire. Ryan isn't even among the most compliant, nastiest whores: the Kock Bros' Freedom Kockus.

The pastor crossed the venal, materialistic oligarchy, the pastor got fired.

[Spurtacular]

The Oligarchy fired the Chaplain.
There is always a blame-route to the Oligarchy.

The one mighty single minded ball of power led by Bezozs, Buffet, Koch, anything Walmart, everything HobbyLobby, Zuckerberg, Cambridge Analytica. These folks are tight.

Careful; that doesn't sound like something the chumpettes can rubber stamp.

[RandomGuy]

I wouldn't know from your blather, certainly. :lol

I accept your white flag.

Thank you.

[RandomGuy]

I MADE A MISTAKE:

Update:

Chaplain wasn't fired, he was asked to resign. Dude just recinded his resignation daring the #3 person in the US Government to fire him.

[Spurtacular]

I accept your white flag.

Thank you.

I never went to that battle, bro. Hence why I never said you were wrong about anything as it directly pertains to your views on the chaplain either.

[Pavlov]

I MADE A MISTAKE:

Update:

Chaplain wasn't fired, he was asked to resign. Dude just recinded his resignation daring the #3 person in the US Government to fire him.
I have accepted Father Conroy’s letter and decided that he will remain in his position as Chaplain of the House.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/03/house-chaplain-rescinds-resignation-567377


:lmao

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Ryan's dicklessness, gutlessness, spinelessness to the fore

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Here's non-Catholic pastor that will never chaplain for Congressional whores

A Christian pastor just broke the internet with a scathing open letter to Huckabee Sanders and Trump

the majority of evangelical pastors get more incensed over the right to bear arms

than oppose the bearing of false witness,

Not John Pavlovitz.

The progressive evangelical pastor and author is one of the few men of the cloth who interprets the New Testament in the spirit of the Christian teachings it contains, rather than molding the biblical contents into fodder for their own worldly aims.

https://washingtonpress.com/2018/05/01/a-christian-pastor-just-broke-the-internet-with-a-scathing-open-letter-to-
huckabee-sanders-and-trump/

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Dear Sarah,

I’ve been trying to reach you for a few days, but I know you’ve been busy lately with this whole White House Correspondents Dinner business—which I imagine you’re already pretty sick of talking about.

Honestly, I am too.

Please know this has nothing to do with that.

This is about you—and it’s about Jesus. (Well, sort of.)

You see, I’m a Christian and I’ve heard you claim that you’re a Christian too—and watching you work recently, it got me thinking:

How does she do it?

What I mean is, how do you reconcile your supposed faith in Jesus of Nazareth, with your current position as a mouthpiece for this morally malignant President?

As a professed Christian, how do you make peace with the reality that you regularly mount the largest bully pulpit in the nation—and you lie for a living on behalf of a serial predator?

How do you square your Christianity with the realization that you are the most visible and vocal surrogate for a man who is by nearly every measurement—fully devoid of Christlikeness?

Look, all Christians (myself included), feel some measure of fraudulence as we live this life while claiming we’re trying to perpetuate the character of Jesus in the world.

None of us can avoid the hypocrisy inherent in professing faith in a perfectly loving, compassionate, merciful Savior—while being profoundly flawed human beings. That tension and duplicity are ever-present.
But this isn’t that.

This is about actively working for the opposition.

This is about purposeful betrayal of your namesake.

This is about conspiring with the enemy.

I watch you every week as you repeatedly distort the truth,

as you attack journalists who come carrying facts.

as you vilify politicians who oppose your employer’s malfeasance,

as you categorically defend his every vile statement, every personal attack, every nonsensical Tweet, every baseless firing, every legislative assault.

I watch your face contort with the unmistakable tells of a person who doesn’t believe a word they’re saying; one who’s sold their soul and is now hopelessly trapped in a lie about a lie about a lie.

I wonder what Jesus-story you tell yourself, about the fact that every week you stand in front of a microphone and willingly perpetuate falsehoods that do great harm to millions of people?

That has to be rough—or maybe it isn’t.

Maybe it’s a breeze for you now.

Maybe you’ve convinced yourself it’s somehow all the Lord’s work.

Maybe you’ve been on this slippery slope of deception for so long that you actually believe the lies now too.

Or maybe your Jesus and my Jesus are just that different.

Maybe your Jesus is good with deporting immigrants.

Maybe your Jesus celebrates the poor staying poor.

Maybe your Jesus is fine with affairs with porn stars.

Maybe your Jesus is totally cool with supremacist Cabinet members.

Maybe your Jesus amens the banning and the wall-building.

Maybe your Jesus sanctions the fear of brown people.

Maybe your Jesus is pleased with sick people going broke trying to not die.

Maybe your Jesus applauds the racism and the bitterness and the cruelty.

Maybe your Jesus somehow blesses the lies you broker in on behalf of the monster you work for.

If that is your Jesus, Sarah—then know you are evangelizing brilliantly right now.

You are spreading the Gospel of that Jesus exponentially.

You are a powerful preacher of that Jesus to the watching world.

But for my money, that Jesus is the reason so many people want nothing to do with Christianity anymore.

It’s why the Church is hemorrhaging.

It’s why the pews are emptying.

It’s why people run from Christians.

I imagine you feel that thirty seconds of jokes from a comedian is terrible treatment;

that you feel unfairly bullied, that feel that you didn’t deserve to be personally attacked.

I imagine you feel like an innocent victim in all this.

Given the countless hours you’ve spent lying to the world and claiming Jesus while you’ve done it—

I think you got off easy.

https://johnpavlovitz.com/

Will her backwoods daddy grifter pastor and Fox go after Pastor John P?

One great service, totally unintended of course, by Trash is that he has exposed evangelicals and their grifter pastors as total frauds, down there with libertarians.

[RandomGuy]

I never went to that battle, bro. Hence why I never said you were wrong about anything as it directly pertains to your views on the chaplain either.

You never really go to battle on anything. Sort of used to it.

[RandomGuy]

May 3, 2018
The Honorable Paul Ryan,
Speaker, House of Representatives
H-232 The Capitol
Washington, DC 20515

RE: Immediate retraction of resignation as Chaplain of the U.S. House of Representatives.

Dear Speaker Ryan:

As you know, by letter of April 15, 2018, I tendered my resignation of the position of Chaplain of the United States House of Representatives (hereinafter "House Chaplain") to you, effective May 24, 2018. At this time, and upon advice of counsel, I hereby retract and rescind said resignation for the reasons that follow.

I was elected as House Chaplain on May 25, 2011, and I have honorably served in that role since that time. I was re-elected House Chaplain in every succeeding Congress. I have never been disciplined, nor reprimanded, nor have I ever heard a complaint about my ministry during my time as House Chaplain. It is my desire to continue to serve as House Chaplain in this 115th United States Congress to the end of my current two-year term, and beyond,· unless my services are officially terminated (however that is properly done) or I am not re-elected to the position by the membership of the House.

While you never spoke with me in person, nor did you send me any correspondence, on Friday, April 13th, 2018, your Chief of Staff, Jonathan Burks, came to me and informed me that you were asking for my letter of resignation. I inquired as to whether or not it was "for cause," and Mr. Burks mentioned dismissively something like "maybe it's time that we had a Chaplain that wasn't a Catholic." He also mentioned my November prayer and an interview with the National Journal Daily.

At that point, I thought that I had little choice but to resign, as my assumption was that you had the absolute prerogative and authority to end my term as House Chaplain.

Recently, on April 27, you publicly indicated that my "pastoral services" to some Members were lacking and that I did not offer adequate "spiritual counseling" to others. This is not the reason that Mr. Burks gave me when asking for my "resignation." In fact, no such criticism has ever been leveled against me during my tenure as House Chaplain. At the very least, if it were, I could have attempted to correct such "faults." In retracting my resignation I wish to do just that.

I also write this letter because I do not wish to have my "resignation" be construed as a "constructive termination." You may wish to outright "fire" me, if you have the authority to do so, but should you wish to terminate my services, it will be without my offer of resignation, as you requested.

Since soon after I submitted my letter of April 15 I chose to remain silent about this matter despite numerous requests from the media. There has been much said in conjecture about my leaving the Chaplain's Office, much of it damaging to the reputation of the House and the integrity of the Office of the Chaplain.

Had I known of any failure in providing my ministry to the House, I would have attempted to make the appropriate adjustments, but in no case would I have agreed to submit a letter of resignation without being given that opportunity. Therefore, I wish to serve the remainder of my term as House Chaplain, unless terminated "for cause." Please be guided accordingly and kindly provide confirmation of your recognition of this letter and my retraction of resignation no later than May 12, 2018. Thank you.

Sincerely,
Patrick J. Conroy, S.J.
Chaplain

CC: The Honorable Nancy Pelosi, Minority Leader
The Honorable Karen Haas, Clerk of the House Daniel G.P. Marchese, Esq.

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Two congressmen nearly come to blows over Paul Ryan's firing of the House chaplain (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/5/9/1763132/-Two-Congressmen-nearly-come-to-blows-over-Paul-Ryan-s-firing-of-the-House-chaplain)


The aftermath of House Speaker Paul Ryan's decision to summarily fire the House chaplain for reasons he has yet to explain—only to reverse himself after the chaplain pointedly un-resigned—has been getting more heated rather than less, with a House floor fight that had others worried somebody was going to throw a punch (https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/08/house-chaplain-shouting-match-576131).


No. 4 House Democrat Joe Crowley (D-N.Y.), who is Catholic, and Rep. Tom MacArthur (R-N.J.)

got up in each other’s faces on the House floor and squabbled over the merits of a special investigation into the dismissal.

The exchange was so heated that some lawmakers and aides watching worried they’d come to blows, though Crowley’s office said that was never going to happen. [...]

After Crowley offered a similar resolution for a second time Tuesday, MacArthur walked over to the Democratic side of the chamber and

accused Crowley of politicizing the issue. :lol well, fucking duh! :lol

According to one source who witnessed it, MacArthur said he prays with Conroy regularly and he’s a Republican —

so this is not a partisan issue and Crowley shouldn’t make it one.


At issue is that

Crowley wants an investigation into why the Catholic chaplain was fired,

since Ryan has offered no justification other than that unnamed Republicans weren't satisfied with his ministering.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/1763132