Son who are soccer players equivalent in Basketball?

[apalisoc_9]

R7 = Micheal Jordan
Messi = David Robinson
R9 = Kawhi

?

[TheGreatYacht]

Messi = Isaiah Thomas
Salah = Harden
Kane = Chimpbrook

[lefty]

JR Smith = Arturo Vidal
Casemiro = Bowen
Lewandowski = Durant

Pat Riley = Mourinho
Phil Jackson = Pep Guardiola
D'Antoni = Wenger

[apalisoc_9]

Messi = Isaiah Thomas
Salah = Harden
Kane = Chimpbrook

Kane = Westbrook :lol

[apalisoc_9]

Arsene = Pop

[dfens]

JR Smith = Arturo Vidal
Casemiro = Bowen
Lewandowski = Durant

Pat Riley = Mourinho
Phil Jackson = Pep Guardiola
D'Antoni = Wenger

lefty smh :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[dfens]

penaldo = kobe (both less talented than goats but both workaholics, obssessed with winning, narcissistic, sociopats)
messi = lebron (clear goat talent but lacking in the ruthlessness department)
jordan = maradona (goat talent and real hood niggas)
cryuff = russell (overrated one trick ponies)
platini = bird (smarts over body, both grade A assholes)
brasil ronaldo = magic (not a long career but insanely dominant, goat talent both of them)
pele = wilt (check my stats in undocumented era)
zidane = duncan( dominant yet discreet, true leaders)
xavi = stockton ( true selfless floor generals)
neymar = kyrie ( great talent yet overrated, also greatly overshadowed by goats)
robben = westbrook (passing ? overrated tbh)
ronaldinho = shaq (could've been goats but didn't care that much)
maldini = david robinson (gentlemen and leaders)

[apalisoc_9]

Cruyff is not a one trick pony. :lol

One of the first eurpoeans to actually add spice into football. Granted i only watched replays.

[dfens]

Cruyff is not a one trick pony. :lol

One of the first eurpoeans to actually add spice into football. Granted i only watched replays.

b2b chokes as the favorite + arrogance :lmao smh a true idol for today's stars :lmao

[Amuseddaysleeper]

penaldo = kobe (both less talented than goats but both workaholics, obssessed with winning, narcissistic, sociopats)
messi = lebron (clear goat talent but lacking in the ruthlessness department)
jordan = maradona (goat talent and real hood niggas)
cryuff = russell (overrated one trick ponies)
platini = bird (smarts over body, both grade A assholes)
brasil ronaldo = magic (not a long career but insanely dominant, goat talent both of them)
pele = wilt (check my stats in undocumented era)
zidane = duncan( dominant yet discreet, true leaders)
xavi = stockton ( true selfless floor generals)
neymar = kyrie ( great talent yet overrated, also greatly overshadowed by goats)
robben = westbrook (passing ? overrated tbh)
ronaldinho = shaq (could've been goats but didn't care that much)
maldini = david robinson (gentlemen and leaders)

That's not too bad, Lebron >> Kobe obviously

Who would be Ginobili's football equivalent?

[Canyonero]

That's not too bad, Lebron >> Kobe obviously

Who would be Ginobili's football equivalent?

Iniesta imho

[TheGreatYacht]

Manu = Lucas Vazquez (he's just there.)

[dfens]

Iniesta imho

very good tbh.
although paul scholes sound better in my eyes, fergie being pop and all.

[dfens]

That's not too bad, Lebron >> Kobe obviously

Who would be Ginobili's football equivalent?

well of course misty > penaldo son, just that rangzz trolling is easy and cheap, I drop it in IRL discussions like going I'm taking a kebab when I'm at work .. quick and effective :lmao

[Canyonero]

very good tbh.
although paul scholes sound better in my eyes, fergie being pop and all.

Yeah but Scholes still has hair.

[dfens]

Yeah but Scholes still has hair.

tbh you got a point tbh.:lol

[Canyonero]

Manu = Lucas Vazquez (he's just there.)

Did you read Chicharitard guaranteeing the WC trophy? :lol

[DAF86]

Sidenaldo=Patrick Ewing

[spursistan]

Madrid 2014-18 = Lakers 2008-11

Ramos = Derek Fisher
Cristiano = Kobe
Modric = Odom
Kroos = Pau
Bynum = Pepe

[dfens]

Sidenaldo=Patrick Ewing

sidenaldo and kobe are two bird of a feather son.

[dfens]

Madrid 2014-18 = Lakers 2008-11

Ramos = Derek Fisher
Cristiano = Kobe
Modric = Odom
Kroos = Pau
Bynum = Pepe

well hot damn son :lmao
although ramos should be metta tbh :lmao

[DAF86]

Madrid 2014-18 = Lakers 2008-11

Ramos = Derek Fisher
Cristiano = Kobe
Modric = Odom
Kroos = Pau
Bynum = Pepe

Benzema is Pau. All the fans scapegoat.

[Hoops Czar]

Ronaldo = Westbrook
Saleh = Mitchell
Messi =Duncan

[Hoops Czar]

Sidenaldo=Patrick Ewing
Even better

[Phenomanul]

penaldo = kobe (both less talented than goats but both workaholics, obssessed with winning, narcissistic, sociopats)
messi = lebron (clear goat talent but lacking in the ruthlessness department)
jordan = maradona (goat talent and real hood niggas)
cryuff = russell (overrated one trick ponies)
platini = bird (smarts over body, both grade A assholes)
brasil ronaldo = magic (not a long career but insanely dominant, goat talent both of them)
pele = wilt (check my stats in undocumented era)
zidane = duncan( dominant yet discreet, true leaders)
xavi = stockton ( true selfless floor generals)
neymar = kyrie ( great talent yet overrated, also greatly overshadowed by goats)
robben = westbrook (passing ? overrated tbh)
ronaldinho = shaq (could've been goats but didn't care that much)
maldini = david robinson (gentlemen and leaders)

Well done... good list (good reasoning).

[Phenomanul]

Did you read Chicharitard guaranteeing the WC trophy? :lol

Mexican soccer players lack the killer instinct to rise from the middle of the pack into the elite.

[Hoops Czar]

That's not too bad, Lebron >> Kobe obviously

Who would be Ginobili's football equivalent?

De Bruyne - Might not always be the headliner, but can't win without him.

[DAF86]

Ginóbili=Xavi

The most underrated legends of their respective sports.

[Hoops Czar]

penaldo = kobe (both less talented than goats but both workaholics, obssessed with winning, narcissistic, sociopats)
messi = lebron (clear goat talent but lacking in the ruthlessness department)
jordan = maradona (goat talent and real hood niggas)
cryuff = russell (overrated one trick ponies)
platini = bird (smarts over body, both grade A assholes)
brasil ronaldo = magic (not a long career but insanely dominant, goat talent both of them)
pele = wilt (check my stats in undocumented era)
zidane = duncan( dominant yet discreet, true leaders)
xavi = stockton ( true selfless floor generals)
neymar = kyrie ( great talent yet overrated, also greatly overshadowed by goats)
robben = westbrook (passing ? overrated tbh)
ronaldinho = shaq (could've been goats but didn't care that much)
maldini = david robinson (gentlemen and leaders)

So if Champions league equals NBA championships, where is all of Maradona's Champions league hardware? Even MJ has olympic gold to go along with his 6 NBA championships. If MVP and ballon d'or are equivalent, where's Maradona's?

[Phenomanul]

Hristo Stoichkov = Charles Barkley (both fiery players with much to say)
Sergio Ramos = Bill Laimbeer (dirty enforcers)
Carlos Valderrama = Josh Childress (cause hair)
Luis Suarez = Draymond Green (always embroiled in on-the-pitch/on-the-court controversy - big mouth/big teeth)
Gabriel Batistuta = Kevin McHale (clinical finishers around the goal/basket)

need to find equivalents for:

Gianluigi Buffon
Franck Ribéry
Marco Van Basten
Michael Laudrup

and

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

[dfens]

So if Champions league equals NBA championships, where is all of Maradona's Champions league hardware? Even MJ has olympic gold to go along with his 6 NBA championships. If MVP and ballon d'or are equivalent, where's Maradona's?

smh at this amateur tbh :lmao

lmao son, maradona has world cup RANGZ and finals where he dragged hot shit with historic wins like vs italy. UCL is nothing compared to a world cup.

1 world cup RANG as the man = 5 UCL
1 world cup final as the man = 2.5 UCL

also lol at olympic golds with team usa, that's like primeras won as the 3rd goal keeper reserve at real madrid.

[Brazil]

Bill Laimbeer = Carlos Mozer tbh

[Phenomanul]

Hristo Stoichkov = Charles Barkley (both fiery players with much to say)
Sergio Ramos = Bill Laimbeer (dirty enforcers)
Carlos Valderrama = Josh Childress (cause hair)
Luis Suarez = Draymond Green (always embroiled in on-the-pitch/on-the-court controversy - big mouth/big teeth)
Gabriel Batistuta = Kevin McHale (clinical finishers around the goal/basket)

need to find equivalents for:

Gianluigi Buffon
Franck Ribéry
Marco Van Basten
Michael Laudrup

and

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

Jay Jay Okocha = Tim Hardaway (utmost craftiness with their ball-handling abilities - often left foes on the ground)
Zlatan Ibrahimović = Stephen Curry (magicians with the ball / ability to create crazy "wtf did he just do?" moments)
Thiery Henry = Joe Dumars

[DAF86]

Hristo Stoichkov = Charles Barkley (both fiery players with much to say)
Sergio Ramos = Bill Laimbeer (dirty enforcers)
Carlos Valderrama = Josh Childress (cause hair)
Luis Suarez = Draymond Green (always embroiled in on-the-pitch/on-the-court controversy - big mouth/big teeth)
Gabriel Batistuta = Kevin McHale (clinical finishers around the goal/basket)

need to find equivalents for:

Gianluigi Buffon
Franck Ribéry
Marco Van Basten
Michael Laudrup

and

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

Buffon can be Manu too. 40 yo still performing at a good level and is well respected by everybody.

[apalisoc_9]

Buffon can be Manu too. 40 yo still performing at a good level and is well respected by everybody.

Lol no.

[Hoops Czar]

smh at this amateur tbh :lmao

lmao son, maradona has world cup RANGZ and finals where he dragged hot shit with historic wins like vs italy. UCL is nothing compared to a world cup.

1 world cup RANG as the man = 5 UCL
1 world cup final as the man = 2.5 UCL

also lol at olympic golds with team usa, that's like primeras won as the 3rd goal keeper reserve at real madrid.

Messi dragged hot shit to the finals of the 2014 World Cup against the heavily favored Germans but as the saying goes, you can lead a pile of shit to water but you can't make it drink. (inb4 Haguain, who singlehandedly cost them the WC is a good player). Oh, and if Messi were to get this group of scrubs back to a WC finals in 2018, Argentina should consider putting Messi's head front and center on the Argentine pesos.

[DAF86]

Lol no.

Why not?

[dfens]

Messi dragged hot shit to the finals of the 2014 World Cup against the heavily favored Germans but as the saying goes, you can lead a pile of shit to water but you can't make it drink. (inb4 Haguain, who singlehandedly cost them the WC is a good player). Oh, and if Messi were to get this group of scrubs back to a WC finals in 2018, Argentina should consider putting Messi's head front and center on the Argentine pesos.

:lmao:lmao smh what a fucking disaster of a post
:lmao
:lmao

nigga please tbh, that's some nigga hours revisionist theory bullshit fairweather fan trumpvoting crap.

peak messi, peak piguain, peak aguero, peak di maria, peak romero, peak lavezzi.
good pieces from manchester city like zabaleta and demichelis, and garay, together working for one of the best defenses in the competition.
a competent coach in sabella.
one of the all time easiest paths to the final.
against one of the least experienced teams in the tournament, who before the semifinal thrashing of brasil was just another SF team, but after that the media hyped it to oblivion.

and yes nigga higuain is a good player and juventus spent insane money to get him.

lmao comparing it to maradona's gauntlet in 1990 of a super tough group (soviet, strong romania, best cameroon), brasil, yugoslavia, italy at home and west germany (who after fall of wall played very hard for the nation). Just lol son :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao
you millenneal kids need to tone down the shittalking about shit that happened before your dadies lost their virginity :lmao

[dfens]

also balolitaly = jr smith ... both super talented and super idiots :lol

[apalisoc_9]

:lmao:lmao smh what a fucking disaster of a post
:lmao
:lmao

nigga please tbh, that's some nigga hours revisionist theory bullshit fairweather fan trumpvoting crap.

peak messi, peak piguain, peak aguero, peak di maria, peak romero, peak lavezzi.
good pieces from manchester city like zabaleta and demichelis, and garay, together working for one of the best defenses in the competition.
a competent coach in sabella.
one of the all time easiest paths to the final.
against one of the least experienced teams in the tournament, who before the semifinal thrashing of brasil was just another SF team, but after that the media hyped it to oblivion.

and yes nigga higuain is a good player and juventus spent insane money to get him.

lmao comparing it to maradona's gauntlet in 1990 of a super tough group (soviet, strong romania, best cameroon), brasil, yugoslavia, italy at home and west germany (who after fall of wall played very hard for the nation). Just lol son :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao
you millenneal kids need to tone down the shittalking about shit that happened before your dadies lost their virginity :lmao

That Argentina team was favourite to win the cup and ultimately got to the finals thanks to their defensive wall.

Its crazy how people forget that Argentina was the best defensive team in 2014.

Its like all of a sudden they think messi had to score goals to get there. He scored none.

[dfens]

That Argentina team was favourite to win the cup and ultimately got to the finals thanks to their defensive wall.

Its crazy how people forget that Argentina was the best defensive team in 2014.

Its like all of a sudden they think messi had to score goals to get there. He scored none.

tbh that's reality, many people had them for favorites. TBH many germans thought that we wouldn't score against their very good defense and that missi was gonna tear us a new one and were prepared for a loss, especially since the team wasn't that experienced .. of course people hate reasonable arguments because :cry:cry:cry like any of these players give a fuck about us :lol

[DAF86]

That Argentina team was favourite to win the cup and ultimately got to the finals thanks to their defensive wall.

Its crazy how people forget that Argentina was the best defensive team in 2014.

Its like all of a sudden they think messi had to score goals to get there. He scored none.

What a lying pos, tbh. :lol

[DAF86]

:lmao:lmao smh what a fucking disaster of a post
:lmao
:lmao

nigga please tbh, that's some nigga hours revisionist theory bullshit fairweather fan trumpvoting crap.

peak messi, peak piguain, peak aguero, peak di maria, peak romero, peak lavezzi.
good pieces from manchester city like zabaleta and demichelis, and garay, together working for one of the best defenses in the competition.
a competent coach in sabella.
one of the all time easiest paths to the final.
against one of the least experienced teams in the tournament, who before the semifinal thrashing of brasil was just another SF team, but after that the media hyped it to oblivion.

and yes nigga higuain is a good player and juventus spent insane money to get him.

lmao comparing it to maradona's gauntlet in 1990 of a super tough group (soviet, strong romania, best cameroon), brasil, yugoslavia, italy at home and west germany (who after fall of wall played very hard for the nation). Just lol son :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao
you millenneal kids need to tone down the shittalking about shit that happened before your dadies lost their virginity :lmao

lol that reading that part and then the rest of your post.

[140]

Giroud = Rivaldo


oh wait

[140]

dfens regulating ITT tbh, good stuff son

[140]

That Argentina team was favourite to win the cup and ultimately got to the finals thanks to their defensive wall.

Its crazy how people forget that Argentina was the best defensive team in 2014.

Its like all of a sudden they think messi had to score goals to get there. He scored none.

Facts tbh

[apalisoc_9]

What a lying pos, tbh. :lol

Look at yourself in the mirror. Before the world cup started Argentina was one of the favourites.

Aguero-Higuin-DiMaria
Masche-Zabaleta-Demichelis-Garay

That was a team that many considered favourites to win.

[dfens]

lol that reading that part and then the rest of your post.

:lol what up son. which part of my post didn't you like tbh?

[apalisoc_9]

:lol what up son. which part of my post didn't you like tbh?

He wants us to believr messi impressed and that they only lost because he was playing with a bunch of farmers :lol

[Hoops Czar]

:lmao:lmao smh what a fucking disaster of a post
:lmao
:lmao

nigga please tbh, that's some nigga hours revisionist theory bullshit fairweather fan trumpvoting crap.

peak messi, peak piguain, peak aguero, peak di maria, peak romero, peak lavezzi.
good pieces from manchester city like zabaleta and demichelis, and garay, together working for one of the best defenses in the competition.
a competent coach in sabella.
one of the all time easiest paths to the final.
against one of the least experienced teams in the tournament, who before the semifinal thrashing of brasil was just another SF team, but after that the media hyped it to oblivion.

and yes nigga higuain is a good player and juventus spent insane money to get him.

lmao comparing it to maradona's gauntlet in 1990 of a super tough group (soviet, strong romania, best cameroon), brasil, yugoslavia, italy at home and west germany (who after fall of wall played very hard for the nation). Just lol son :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao
you millenneal kids need to tone down the shittalking about shit that happened before your dadies lost their virginity :lmao

:lmao At the amount of arrogance and ignorance in one post.....

Myths usually form either through influential people not doing their homework, people looking for what suits their agenda instead of what's right or a German bullshitter trying to retell history by trying to fit a square shit bomb into a round narrative without anyone noticing the stench.

Peak Valdano, peak Burruchaga (game winner in finals), Brown, Batista, Enrique, Ruggeri, Pumpido ( conceded 5 goals all tournament- two on set pieces in finals). Maradonna may have been the Argentina's talisman and best player on the pitch but it was NOT a one man show. And regadless of publc opinion, Carlos Bilardo was a great manager.

Also, Germany was one of the favorites to win the world cup (5 to 1) behind host country Brazil so don't give me that inexperienced, just happy to be there bullshit. They were young, but very talented.

And Prima donna wouldn't have a single WC to his name if it wasn't for Pasculli vs Uraguay and the "Hands of god" goal ( otherwise known as "illegal" goal in today's soccer but the soccer gods back in the day were much more liberal on what was and wasn't a good goal) vs England. He had to beg his teammates to come hug him for fear the goal wouldn't have counted. :lmao

You bring up the Guantlet in 1990 as if it was Maradona and a bunch of merry men humbly graced to be in the presences of Greatness when in fact that Argentina team was the equivalent to the 2016 Euro Cup Portugal team, without the hardware. Argentina scored only 5 goals the entire tournament. They won with stealth defense and penalty shoot out wins. And yeah, they were completely out classed in the finals by West Germany. Words I would use to best describe Argentina's performance in the finals of the world cup... weak, pathetic and lucky to be there! The World cup finals between Argentina and West Germany was also cited as being of the lowest qualty football of all World Cup finals. Meanwhile, Maradona had zero goals beyond group stage and even managed to miss his penalty kick against Yugoslavia in the Quarter finals that would have won it. Thank god for back up goalie Goycochea in net saving two blasts that could have won it for Yugo (Who were playing with 10 men for much of the match) before Dezotti netted the winner.


:lmao revisionist history at its finest.

[dfens]

:lmao At the amount of arrogance and ignorance in one post.....

Myths usually form either through influential people not doing their homework, people looking for what suits their agenda instead of what's right or a German bullshitter trying to retell history by trying to fit a square shit bomb into a round narrative without anyone noticing the stench.

Peak Valdano, peak Burruchaga (game winner in finals), Brown, Batista, Enrique, Ruggeri, Pumpido ( conceded 5 goals all tournament- two on set pieces in finals). Maradonna may have been the Argentina's talisman and best player on the pitch but it was NOT a one man show. And regadless of publc opinion, Carlos Bilardo was a great manager.

Also, Germany was one of the favorites to win the world cup (5 to 1) behind host country Brazil so don't give me that inexperienced, just happy to be there bullshit. They were young, but very talented.

And Prima donna wouldn't have a single WC to his name if it wasn't for Pasculli vs Uraguay and the "Hands of god" goal ( otherwise known as "illegal" goal in today's soccer but the soccer gods back in the day were much more liberal on what was and wasn't a good goal) vs England.

You bring up the Guantlet in 1990 as if it was Maradona and a bunch of merry men humbly graced to be in the presences of Greatness when in fact that Argentina team was the equivalent to the 2016 Euro Cup Portugal team, without the hardware. Argentina scored only 5 goals the entire tournament. They won with stealth defense and penalty shoot out wins. And yeah, they were completely out classed in the finals by West Germany. Words I would use to best describe Argentina's performance in the finals of the world cup... weak, pathetic and lucky to be there! The World cup finals between Argentina and West Germany was also cited as being of the lowest qualty football of all World Cup finals. Meanwhile, Maradona had zero goals beyond group stage and even managed to miss his penalty kick against Yugoslavia in the Quarter finals that would have won it. Thank god for back up goalie Goycochea in net saving two blasts that could have won it for Yugo (Who were playing with 10 men for much of the match) before Dezotti netted the winner.


:lmao revisionist history at its finest.


this nigga smh :lmao

sons half that argentina team was injured that tournament, stop giving me the shit with peak this peak that, I was IN MOTHERFUCKING italy back then, they had MASSIVE injury problems ( burruchaga, valdano, ruggeri, gusti, caniggia, pumpido's leg and more). Even maradona played through serious injury (infected toe + swollen ankle + back spasms), and that was truly visible in his play. Didn't matter, he played against his doctor's strong recommendations. Of course the other teams knew this, so they fouled the fuck outta them.

Calling me revisionist and saying stealth defense and stacked team:lmao:lmao:lmao when that was an injured team standing on their (literally) last legs that had no choice but to defend as it lacked the personnel for any other tactic.

Also thank god for Goycochea is truly a "bran needs kyrie :cry" woke take.

so sons please go back to reading box scores from 30 years ago :lmao



lmao your whole post was like the "2014 heat were stacked :cry :cry" takes :lmao:lmao:lmao

[Canyonero]

Sons I'm not reading all that shit tbh

[Bynumite]

Every day i pray to Based Götze for not letting midget off the hook and not let him win an extremely undeserving World Cup.

:worthy: Based Götze :worthy:

Question for the residents germans, is Götze seen as a national hero and celebrated? Motherfucker better have a statue or at least a avenue, square named after him.

[DAF86]

:lol what up son. which part of my post didn't you like tbh?

The part where you act like Germany wasn't the prohibitive favourite before the final.

[apalisoc_9]

The part where you act like Germany wasn't the prohibitive favourite before the final.

Thats because of the 7-1 semi finals but before the tournament Argentina was the favourite.

[DAF86]

Thats because of the 7-1 semi finals but before the tournament Argentina was the favourite.

Argentina wasn't THE favourite. Was one of 3 or 4 favourites among bet odds, but that was just because Messi. Without him Argentina wouldn't have even been among the top 10.

[apalisoc_9]

Argentina wasn't THE favourite. Was one of 3 or 4 favourites among bet odds, but that was just because Messi. Without him Argentina wouldn't have even been among the top 10.

Argentina didnt need messi goals to make it to the finals. Thats a fact.

Your opinion is pure fanboy

[DAF86]

Argentina didnt need messi goals to make it to the finals. Thats a fact.

Your opinion is pure fanboy

Argentina without Messi wouldn't have made it past the group stage. :lol

[apalisoc_9]

Argentina without Messi wouldn't have made it past the group stage. :lol

Ah..

Typical messi. He only ever matters in the group stages.

[Jodelo]

Every day i pray to Based Götze for not letting midget off the hook and not let him win an extremely undeserving World Cup.

:worthy: Based Götze :worthy:

Question for the residents germans, is Götze seen as a national hero and celebrated? Motherfucker better have a statue or at least a avenue, square named after him.

Meehhh... he may not make the WC 2018 :lol He has an illness which makes him take breaks here and there. He was celebrated for the goal but just a few days :lol

[dfens]

Meehhh... he may not make the WC 2018 :lol He has an illness which makes him take breaks here and there. He was celebrated for the goal but just a few days :lol

best position tbh, rangz + lots of money + hot wag + watching your NT go for a repeat while drinking pure german beer. life's good tbh. :lol

[dfens]

The part where you act like Germany wasn't the prohibitive favourite before the final.

tbh I like your odds trolling thing, really nice and subtle tbh:toast

but brasil had 3-2 odds of beating germany before their semi-finals, so that's a nice example of showing why odds from oddsmakers:
- are for casual fans betting on team names not on teams
- do not take matchups or experience into account (germany was rather poor against very strong defenses as it played a rather inflexible positional offense)
- do not take goat players into account (playing vs messi, in south america :wow)

so it's obvious that the finals odds were different from the pre-competition odds as the oddsmakers were trying to lure the casuals into hype votes.
also if you want to have an even funnier discussion let's talk about why argentina's pre world cup odds have shrunk during the world and the correlation between this fact and messi's hype vs real play in NT tournaments. :lol
nice trolling though, maybe these young niggas learn something from the craft :lol, god bless. :toast

[DAF86]

Says odds from oddmakers are shit but:

-oddmakers said Germany was the favourite over Argentina.
-he is saying Argentina was the favourite.
-the winner was Germany.

So, who is the one with shitty predictions? :lol

[dfens]

Says odds from oddmakers are shit but:

-oddmakers said Germany was the favourite over Argentina.
-he is saying Argentina was the favourite.
-the winner was Germany.

So, who is the one with shitty predictions? :lol

it's ok if you can't read son, missi is gon ring this time :lol statistically by now he should've rang one already tbh:lmao

[lefty]

:lmao:lmao smh what a fucking disaster of a post
:lmao
:lmao

nigga please tbh, that's some nigga hours revisionist theory bullshit fairweather fan trumpvoting crap.

peak messi, peak piguain, peak aguero, peak di maria, peak romero, peak lavezzi.
good pieces from manchester city like zabaleta and demichelis, and garay, together working for one of the best defenses in the competition.
a competent coach in sabella.
one of the all time easiest paths to the final.
against one of the least experienced teams in the tournament, who before the semifinal thrashing of brasil was just another SF team, but after that the media hyped it to oblivion.

and yes nigga higuain is a good player and juventus spent insane money to get him.

lmao comparing it to maradona's gauntlet in 1990 of a super tough group (soviet, strong romania, best cameroon), brasil, yugoslavia, italy at home and west germany (who after fall of wall played very hard for the nation). Just lol son :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao
you millenneal kids need to tone down the shittalking about shit that happened before your dadies lost their virginity :lmao

[DAF86]

it's ok if you can't read son, missi is gon ring this time :lol statistically by now he should've rang one already tbh:lmao

So, was Argentina the favourite coming into the final or not?

[dfens]

So, was Argentina the favourite coming into the final or not?

oddsmaker favorite? no
oddsmaker if we'd barely scrapped by brasil? yes
oddsmaker before the tournament? yes
football fan favorite? no
should've argentina been the football fan favorite given their roster + would be goat? yes, no doubt.


stop hiding behind skirts my nig, you know damn well that strong roster + strong gk + strong coach + goat should ring or at least put up a fight and not lose like the raptors tbh... tbh that's what was bothering, lose or win it's still a finals so congrats anyway but to lose it without puting a fight is just sad tbh. You'd think a goat player would've showed some pride/guts/brilliance and would've made something outta nothing.

[DAF86]

oddsmaker favorite? no
oddsmaker if we'd barely scrapped by brasil? yes
oddsmaker before the tournament? yes
football fan favorite? no
should've argentina been the football fan favorite given their roster + would be goat? yes, no doubt.


stop hiding behind skirts my nig, you know damn well that strong roster + strong gk + strong coach + goat should ring or at least put up a fight and not lose like the raptors tbh... tbh that's what was bothering, lose or win it's still a finals so congrats anyway but to lose it without puting a fight is just sad tbh. You'd think a goat player would've showed some pride/guts/brilliance and would've made something outta nothing.

"Lose like the Raptors" since when is losing in extra time, while being the underdog, losing like the Raptors? :lol

Stop coming at me with retarded takes son. I have better things to do.

[Hoops Czar]

this nigga smh :lmao

sons half that argentina team was injured that tournament, stop giving me the shit with peak this peak that, I was IN MOTHERFUCKING italy back then, they had MASSIVE injury problems ( burruchaga, valdano, ruggeri, gusti, caniggia, pumpido's leg and more). Even maradona played through serious injury (infected toe + swollen ankle + back spasms), and that was truly visible in his play. Didn't matter, he played against his doctor's strong recommendations. Of course the other teams knew this, so they fouled the fuck outta them.

Calling me revisionist and saying stealth defense and stacked team:lmao:lmao:lmao when that was an injured team standing on their (literally) last legs that had no choice but to defend as it lacked the personnel for any other tactic.

Also thank god for Goycochea is truly a "bran needs kyrie :cry" woke take.

so sons please go back to reading box scores from 30 years ago :lmao



lmao your whole post was like the "2014 heat were stacked :cry :cry" takes :lmao:lmao:lmao

I can't tell which is more impressive, your reading comprehension or that goal post moving? I was clearly talking about the 1986 team being stacked on all fronts and not a one man band like many revisonists like to claim. Nobody is disputing who the star of the show was but to say Maradona didn't have help would be both foolish and ignorant.

I'm not really sure why you brought up 1990 because Maradona was flat out unremarkable and had no more to do with that WC finals berth as his injury plagued teammates did. If you want a comparison for that WC team, look no further than Sweden (W) in the Rio Olympics. Park the bus and pray for a mistake by the opposition.

Take Messi off the 2014 team and there's a good chance they miss qualification.

[Hoops Czar]

oddsmaker favorite? no
oddsmaker if we'd barely scrapped by brasil? yes
oddsmaker before the tournament? yes
football fan favorite? no
should've argentina been the football fan favorite given their roster + would be goat? yes, no doubt.

oddsmaker favorite? Brazil
oddmaker favorite if we'd barely scrape by Brazil? Germany/Argentina
oddsmakers before the tournament? Brazil.
Football Fan favorite? Brazil
should've argentina been the football fan favorite given their roster + would be goat? Brazil

[dfens]

I can't tell which is more impressive, your reading comprehension or that goal post moving? I was clearly talking about the 1986 team being stacked on all fronts and not a one man band like many revisonists like to claim. Nobody is disputing who the star of the show was but to say Maradona didn't have help would be both foolish and ignorant.

I'm not really sure why you brought up 1990 because Maradona was flat out unremarkable and had no more to do with that WC finals berth as his injury plagued teammates did. If you want a comparison for that WC team, look no further than Sweden (W) in the Rio Olympics. Park the bus and pray for a mistake by the opposition.

Take Messi off the 2014 team and there's a good chance they miss qualification.
bold (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=4444) : come on son for fucks sake, '14 argentina isn't fucking portugal. They had an excellent defense, an excellent coach, an excellent penaldo keeper and even without messi they had heavy offensive pieces. Sure without messi they aren't big contenders but to not qualify :lmao

Also diego had a strong team in '86, won't deny it.

Son why not bring up the u'15 championships while you're at it with the olympics, nobody gives a fuck about that, hence only a handful of teams ever grace the semifinals, let alone ring. Lmao winning world cups by parking the bus and praying. You still need a shitload of talent to progress.

also I'll do all the misty fans a favor and not compare diego's runs with missi's, that was one of the reasons for which I spoke about '90, an ailing old man coked maradona with a crippled team had as much success against MUCH stiffer opposition as peak missi had in '14 with a very strong squad against weak opposition. I won't talk about '86, in just one run diego scored more than missi at all the world cups, against contenders too not against nigeria........ tbh this whole comparison is unfair so I'll just drop it tbh.

[dfens]

oddsmaker favorite? Brazil
oddmaker favorite if we'd barely scrape by Brazil? Germany/Argentina
oddsmakers before the tournament? Brazil.
Football Fan favorite? Brazil
should've argentina been the football fan favorite given their roster + would be goat? Brazil

that's my point son, oddsmaker and casual fan odds don't mean shit. Any knowledgeable football fan didn't rate Brasil as a contender in '14. That's why I was pointing out to my nig Canyonero.
Strong team + great offensive pieces + great defense + good coach + very good penaldo keeper + GOAT should be >>>> young germany team playing in south america .. idgaf how you spin that, it's what any coach would tell you .. well, they could say missi is not the goat or that he choked..

[diego]

Not gonna bother addressing the usual agenda BS I read on here but ...

CROFL at the guy asking for Maradona's balón D'or, theyre in the same place as Pele's, moreno, garrincha, Didi, etc, in the hands of an undeserving European because Europeans are insecure pieces of shit and have preyed on South America footballers since the beginning to the sport, only reason Di Stefano and Sivori have theirs is because they sold their nationality.

And you want to talk about ignorance and revisionism, fuck me

[Canyonero]

that's my point son, oddsmaker and casual fan odds don't mean shit. Any knowledgeable football fan didn't rate Brasil as a contender in '14. That's why I was pointing out to my nig Canyonero.
Strong team + great offensive pieces + great defense + good coach + very good penaldo keeper + GOAT should be >>>> young germany team playing in south america .. idgaf how you spin that, it's what any coach would tell you .. well, they could say missi is not the goat or that he choked..

wut

[Phenomanul]

Not gonna bother addressing the usual agenda BS I read on here but ...

CROFL at the guy asking for Maradona's balón D'or, theyre in the same place as Pele's, moreno, garrincha, Didi, etc, in the hands of an undeserving European because Europeans are insecure pieces of shit and have preyed on South America footballers since the beginning to the sport, only reason Di Stefano and Sivori have theirs is because they sold their nationality.

And you want to talk about ignorance and revisionism, fuck me

Add Hugo Sanchez to that list... the only deserving Mexican footballer.

Non European players were ineligible for the Balon D'Or until 1995 - when the selection field was opened to all.

[dfens]

wut

that oddsmaker odds are pointless since the person I replied to the correct answer of oddsmakers favoring brasil in '14, a team everybody knew was shit AND that was going to shit the bed. Oddsmaker odds are for your midnightcuck crowd.

[Canyonero]

that oddsmaker odds are pointless since the person I replied to the correct answer of oddsmakers favoring brasil in '14, a team everybody knew was shit AND that was going to shit the bed. Oddsmaker odds are for your midnightcuck crowd.

I think you meant DAF instead of me

[dfens]

I think you meant DAF instead of me

sorry sons, lots of travel this fucking month fucking travel smh can't even sleep propely with all the time zones :cry
god bless your understanding soul tbh :toast