Snopes Exposed as a CIA Operation

[Chris]

Using Snopes as a trusted authority is dangerous. According to a recent investigation, the so-called fact-checking organization is actually a front for the CIA.


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According to investigative journalist Wayne Madsen, Snopes was formed by the Central Intelligence Agency in order to spread disinformation on the internet, and stifle subversive outlets.

Fellowshipoftheminds.com reports: From Madsen’s for-subscribers-only report of Oct. 7, 2016, ‘Snopes.com: the latest CIA addition to Internet disinformation‘:

“On April 19, 2016, WMR reported: […] ‘Snopes.com is run by a California couple named Barbara and David Mikkelson, who founded the San Fernando Valley Folklore Society . . . The Mikkelsons chose the name Snopes because it is the name of a fictional family featured in William Faulkner’s novels that includes a pedophile, a murderer, a bigamist, a corrupt racist politician, and a thief who live in the fictional Yoknapatawpha County in Mississippi. The idea is to label all those targeted by the Mikkelsons as candidates for membership in the Snopes family. […]’

Snopes.com is on record calling WMR a ‘disreputable web site.’ Nothing says ‘CIA’ more than Snopes.com’s description of legitimate news reports of CIA director John Brennan being a Wahhabist and Saudi sympathizer as ‘bogus.’

Snopes’s most recent dissembling of the truth was to discount reports from Greece that Turkey has been shipping weapons disguised as furniture shipments to Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) and affiliated terrorist groups in North Africa and Europe.

Snopes claims that because the story of a Greek Coast Guard interception of a weapons shipment south of the island of Crete dates from 2015, there is no validity to the Turkish connection to weapons shipments to ISIL terrorists. The ship transporting the weapons was the Bolivian-flagged Haddad 1, operated by Delta Sea Maritime of Turkey. The vessel had loaded twelve containers at the Egyptian port of Alexandria, a favorite weapons shipment location for the CIA. The ship, before stopping in Famagusta in the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, loaded another three containers at the Turkish port of Iskenderun, the transit port for the shipment of captured weapons from Muammar Qaddafi’s arms warehouses to Syrian jihadist rebels. It was the Iskenderun transport operation that involved the late U.S. envoy to Libya Christopher Stevens; Turkish Consul General in Benghazi Ali Sait Akin; CIA director David Petraeus; and, reportedly, senior advisers to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

The CIA had to commission its favorite Internet disinformation site to throw cold water on the Turkish weapons links to ISIL because it threatens to expose the CIA’s massive weapons smuggling operations to ISIL terrorists that involved Turi Defense Group of Arizona — a case just buried by the Department of Justice on orders of the Obama administration and the Hillary Clinton campaign — and other covert weapons transfers being carried out on the orders of ‘Al Hadj’ John Brennan, veteran of the Islamic ritual pilgrimage to the holy city of Mecca.

One of the CIA’s smuggling operations entailed the Belgian-based arms manufacturer Fabrique Nationale (FN), which has a CIA-connected subsidiary called FNH-USA. One particular FN rifle, the Fusil Automatique Léger (FAL), was the standard weapon used by the Libyan rebels in 2011 and 2012, including the jihadist group that attacked the U.S. diplomatic compound in Benghazi on September 11, 2012. The FAL, called the ‘Right Arm of the Free World’ during the Cold War, uses only NATO standard rounds. The weapon was never used by the Libyan Army, which relied on Soviet weaponry. Claims by NATO that the rebels were using Libyan weapons captured from Libyan army arsenals and caches were patently false.

Snopes is now questioning Turkey’s weapons links to jihadist terrorists in North Africa and Europe. However, photographs do not lie, as seen below. Ammunition and 5,000 shotguns from the Turkish-owned arms dealer Yavex USA were shipped from Istanbul in boxes denoted as plastic office furniture manufactured by the Turkish firm ‘Senyayla Plastik Sanayi ve Ticaret A/S’ of Istanbul. The Turkish government and the CIA had their ‘plausible deniability’ cover story on the intercepted weapons and ammunition ready to go just after the Greek Coast Guard interception: The 492,000 handgun bullets were destined for the Sudanese national police and were to be delivered through the port of Beirut, Lebanon and the 4900 shotguns were ‘hunting rifles’ destined for Lebanese customers. The Haddad 1was stopping at the Libyan ports of Misrata and Tobruk, according to the Turkish government, to deliver bags of ‘cement mix.’ At the time of the interception, Libya was subject to a United Nations arms embargo.

Yavex’s U.S. subsidiary is located at 6361 Corporate Park Circle in Fort Myers, Florida. It is clear that both Yavex USA, Turi Defense Group, and FN-USA, now called FN-America, were involved in a covert CIA weapons smuggling operation in violation of the UN arms embargoes imposed on Libya, and later, on Syria, with the connivance of Hillary Clinton. Not surprisingly, FN-America operates from a post office box in McLean, Virginia, not far from CIA headquarters in Langley.

What may have possessed Hillary Clinton to destroy thousands of State Department emails transmitted, processed, and stored on her personal servers? Perhaps it was her involvement in a major CIA weapons smuggling operation that saw U.S. and NATO weapons being shipped to jihadist terrorists in Libya, Syria, and Europe. As Secretary of State, Mrs. Clinton had ultimate authority for approving U.S. weapons transfers abroad pursuant to the Arms Export Control Act.

As far as Snopes.com is concerned, nothing they report should be taken seriously. They are as reliable a news source as The Onion.”

According to Wikipedia, the Mikkelsons, a California couple, created the Snopes site in 1995. By mid-2014, the couple had divorced and Barbara Mikkelson had not written for the site “in several years”. So David Mikkelson “hired employees to assist him from Snopes.com’s message board.” Barbara no longer has an ownership stake in Snopes.com.

In other words, we are to believe that one man, David Mikkelson, with “assistants” he’d hired from Snopes’ message board, manages to pump out a steady stream of researched articles every day. If you believe that, I have the proverbial swamp in Florida to sell you.

https://yournewswire.com/snopes-cia-operation/

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Chris still posting conspiratard nonsense it seems.

[Pavlov]

So the proof it's a CIA operation is they think it's a CIA operation.

[ElNono]

:lol is this an Onion story? Or the Onion is a CIA front too??? wooohaaa

[Spurtacular]

Does anyone think that Snopes is on the level?

[monosylab1k]

yournewswire.com :lmao

[ElNono]

yournewswire.com :lmao

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Madsen

:lmao 'investigative journalist'

The stuff some peeps swallow, it's amazing...

[Chris]

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[monosylab1k]

It’s always funny when you can watch someone have regret over making a retarded thread and try to salvage it by pretending it was a troll thread the whole time. Done it myself, tbh. Not sure if I ever made 2 in one day like OP tho.

[Chris]

It’s always funny when you can watch someone have regret over making a retarded thread and try to salvage it by pretending it was a troll thread the whole time. Done it myself, tbh. Not sure if I ever made 2 in one day like OP tho.

Which poster and thread were you referring to?

[dabom]

It’s always funny when you can watch someone have regret over making a retarded thread and try to salvage it by pretending it was a troll thread the whole time. Done it myself, tbh. Not sure if I ever made 2 in one day like OP tho.

:lol

[monosylab1k]

Which poster and thread were you referring to?

Pretty typical “saving face” post here^

It takes one to know one, I’ll admit. But it’ll be more helpful when someone else here admits it too.

[Chris]

Pretty typical “saving face” post here^

It takes one to know one, I’ll admit. But it’ll be more helpful when someone else here admits it too.

I'll admit I have no faith whatsoever in the credibility of Snopes.

[pgardn]

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Yournewswire has been blowed up dozens of times for just making shit up.
Snopes fact checks them, blew them up, and you quoted.
Excellent Chris.

[DarrinS]

Smh

[DMC]

Couple of principles you should live by:

1. You most likely never were a first discoverer of something earth shattering
2. If you think you are, you're likely being duped.

[monosylab1k]

Here's some proof that Snopes is a disinfo site. They tried to make viewers think that the Apollo moon missions were real.
https://www.snopes.com/moon-landing-urban-legends/

The proof that they were faked has been on the internet for years now.

(post #916)
http://www.sciforums.com/threads/we-never-went-to-the-moon.145207/page-46#post-3513076


Only a disinfo site would say the moon missions really happened.


Here are some more disinfo sites.
http://www.clavius.org/
http://www.badastronomy.com/index.html
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/forumindex.php

:lmao the cherry on top of this bullshit sundae of a thread

[ElNono]

:lol

[DisAsTerBot]

Lol pathetic

[benefactor]

Here's some proof that Snopes is a disinfo site. They tried to make viewers think that the Apollo moon missions were real.
https://www.snopes.com/moon-landing-urban-legends/

The proof that they were faked has been on the internet for years now.

(post #916)
http://www.sciforums.com/threads/we-never-went-to-the-moon.145207/page-46#post-3513076


Only a disinfo site would say the moon missions really happened.


Here are some more disinfo sites.
http://www.clavius.org/
http://www.badastronomy.com/index.html
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/forumindex.php
So snopes is completely legitimate.

Good to know

[Blake]

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[RandomGuy]

Using Snopes as a trusted authority is dangerous. According to a recent investigation, the so-called fact-checking organization is actually a front for the CIA.


https://cdns.yournewswire.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Snopes-CIA-678x381.jpg

Other gems from Fellowshipoftheminds.com

“Did Obama administration have foreknowledge of 2011 New Zealand earthquake?,” Mach 13, 2018.

“Former manager of Obama Foundation claims Obama is a Luciferian,” Jan. 30, 2018.

“Obama and young girls,” Oct. 11, 2017.


um... yeah.

[RandomGuy]

Here's some proof that Snopes is a disinfo site. They tried to make viewers think that the Apollo moon missions were real.
https://www.snopes.com/moon-landing-urban-legends/

The proof that they were faked has been on the internet for years now.

(post #916)
http://www.sciforums.com/threads/we-never-went-to-the-moon.145207/page-46#post-3513076


Only a disinfo site would say the moon missions really happened.


Here are some more disinfo sites.
http://www.clavius.org/
http://www.badastronomy.com/index.html
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/forumindex.php

The dingleberry on top of the shit-heap... :rollin

[spurraider21]

:lmao the cherry on top of this bullshit sundae of a thread


The dingleberry on top of the shit-heap... :rollin

[Spurtacular]

The idea that an older couple are going to be the arbiters of truth from their basement is preposterous. It's obviously a front. :lol @ the chumpettes trying ever so hard to believe in a modern version of Santa Claus.

[Pavlov]

The idea that an older couple are going to be the arbiters of truth from their basement is preposterous. It's obviously a front. :lol @ the chumpettes trying ever so hard to believe in a modern version of Santa Claus.You're claiming Snopes is a front for Trump's CIA.

lol

[Spurtacular]

You're claiming Snopes is a front for Trump's CIA.

lol

Are you pretending it's not a front group? Or do you really think that an older couple can actually produce all 'the truth'.?

[Blake]

It's obviously a front.

:lol Santa Claus

[Chris]

The idea that an older couple are going to be the arbiters of truth from their basement is preposterous. It's obviously a front. :lol @ the chumpettes trying ever so hard to believe in a modern version of Santa Claus.

It's their Bible. This is like heresy for them :lol

[Blake]

It's their Bible. This is like heresy for them :lol

:lol your bible.

[Pavlov]

:lol Santa ClausNO ONE COULD POSSIBLY LOOK UP INFORMATION THAT COULD CONFIRM OR DEBUNK CLAIMS PEOPLE HAVE SEEN OR READ THAT WOULD TAKE MILLIONS OF COMPUTERS AROUND THE WORLD CONNECTED FAR AND WIDE IN A HUGE NETWORK LIKE A WEB AND THAT'S THE STUPIDEST THING I HAVE EVER HEARD ONLY TRUMP'S CIA COULD DO THIS

[spurraider21]

It's their Bible. This is like heresy for them :lol
unlike the bible snopes has a source/link for everything they claim :lol

and unlike the bible snopes is ok with saying "undetermined" instead of just making up an answer

[Spurtacular]

:lol your bible.

:lol Still blaming God for your cuckdom.

[Spurtacular]

NO ONE COULD POSSIBLY LOOK UP INFORMATION THAT COULD CONFIRM OR DEBUNK CLAIMS PEOPLE HAVE SEEN OR READ THAT WOULD TAKE MILLIONS OF COMPUTERS AROUND THE WORLD CONNECTED FAR AND WIDE IN A HUGE NETWORK LIKE A WEB AND THAT'S THE STUPIDEST THING I HAVE EVER HEARD ONLY TRUMP'S CIA COULD DO THIS

:lol Caps Lock
:lol Purporting that finding all the truth is just a matter of a few clicks.

[Spurtacular]

unlike the bible snopes has a source/link for everything they claim :lol

and unlike the bible snopes is ok with saying "undetermined" instead of just making up an answer

When you're the way, the truth, and the light, you don't have to say "undetermined."

:lol Today's dumbfuck

[spurraider21]

When you're the way, the truth, and the light, you don't have to say "undetermined."

:lol Today's dumbfuck
:lol books written by bronze age men who's greatest technology was the open toe sandal being infallible

[Spurtacular]

:lol books written by bronze age men who's greatest technology was the open toe sandal being infallible

So, your hypothesis is that a god would start people off in the Space Age? You keep letting the bitterness speak for you. :lol

[spurraider21]

So, your hypothesis is that a god would start people off in the Space Age? You keep letting the bitterness speak for you. :lol
my hypothesis is that a book written by man a couple thousand years ago is not infallible

[Pavlov]

:lol Caps LockThere's a reason for that you missed.

lol

:lol Purporting that finding all the truth is just a matter of a few clicks.For the fake news you try to pass off here?

Yeah, it's really easy tbh.

[Spurtacular]

my hypothesis is that a book written by man a couple thousand years ago is not infallible

Who says that it is?

[ElNono]

The idea that an older couple are going to be the arbiters of truth from their basement is preposterous. It's obviously a front. :lol @ the chumpettes trying ever so hard to believe in a modern version of Santa Claus.

:lol

[ElNono]

When you're the way, the truth, and the light, you don't have to say "undetermined."

:lmao

[ElNono]

this thread delivers, tbh...

Can we have another Cosmoretard appearance?

[spurraider21]

Who says that it is?


When you're the way, the truth, and the light, you don't have to say "undetermined."

[pgardn]

Cosmo, Chris, Spurtacular...

Please approach the altar.
Tell all sheeples the truth.

[Chris]

Cosmo, Chris, Spurtacular...

Please approach the altar.
Tell all sheeples the truth.

You're being manipulated. Coerced. Until you realize that, you will learn nothing.

[spurraider21]

You're being manipulated. Coerced. Until you realize that, you will learn nothing.
right back atcha

[TeyshaBlue]

Cosmo, Chris, Spurtacular...

Please approach the altar.
Tell all sheeples the truth.

The Axis of Vapidity.

[ElNono]

You're being manipulated. Coerced. Until you realize that, you will learn nothing.

http://yomemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/FB_IMG_1425204632328-635x633.jpg

[ElNono]

tbh, you can criticize a lot of things about this administration, but the unintended comedy provided by the loons that stepped out of the shadows feeling newly empowered is probably one of the biggest pluses :lol

(North Korea deal notwithstanding)

[Chris]

Busting out the ancient memes. Woe is me.

[ElNono]

keep the goodies coming, tbh, IMVHO

[Spurminator]

Makes sense, tbh. It's funded by Soros who was a Nazi plant for the CIA.

[Spurtacular]

Makes sense, tbh. It's funded by Soros who was a Nazi plant for the CIA.

Soros is all about you, the little guy. Obviously, people who criticize him are fronting on you, bro.

[pgardn]

tbh, you can criticize a lot of things about this administration, but the unintended comedy provided by the loons that stepped out of the shadows feeling newly empowered is probably one of the biggest pluses :lol

)

Absolutely.
The loons identify themselves.

[Spurtacular]

ElNono

You throwing a lot of stones. You believe that a 50-something couple are cracking the code on truth from their basement?

[Chris]

Told you this is their Bible.

[Spurminator]

https://i.imgur.com/O5F9KYm.png?1

[Spurtacular]

Spurminator (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=45)

You think Soros is looking out for you? You think that's his end game?

Also, if you're gonna use a meme, you could be savvy enough to not get some third rate sh** with a watermark. :lmao

[Spurminator]

all images are memes, bro

[Spurtacular]

^^^

Fetal position posting; nothing for me to do, tbh.

'Cept maybe this: :lmao :lmao :lmao

[ElNono]

ElNono

You throwing a lot of stones. You believe that a 50-something couple are cracking the code on truth from their basement?

fake news :lol

At least have the decency of going to snopes and read up on how they operate, tbh...

Honestly, what they do is pretty common... go check the source of something and see if it's there or not, link it if it is, etc... we do that all the time, tbh...

And what do you mean by 'truth'? If I tell you black is black, but you insist that it's white, it becomes your problem, tbh...

[ElNono]

I don't get the actual criticism of Snopes, tbh...

what's your take Spurtacular?

[ElNono]

Told you this is their Bible.

Bible bad now??

[Spurtacular]

fake news :lol

At least have the decency of going to snopes and read up on how they operate, tbh...

Honestly, what they do is pretty common... go check the source of something and see if it's there or not, link it if it is, etc... we do that all the time, tbh...

And what do you mean by 'truth'? If I tell you black is black, but you insist that it's white, it becomes your problem, tbh...

How do they operate, according to you?

If you're assuming that any fact checker doesn't have an agenda, you're obviously naive.

[ElNono]

How do they operate, according to you?

If you're assuming that any fact checker doesn't have an agenda, you're obviously naive.

They disclose how they operate, how they make their money, etc:
https://www.snopes.com/about-snopes/

They source all their claims. You're free to agree to disagree with their takes, but you can't say they didn't source it.

What specific concern do you have, tbh? Or is this one of those 'I don't trust anything from anywhere' loon thingie?

[pgardn]

How do they operate, according to you?

If you're assuming that any fact checker doesn't have an agenda, you're obviously naive.

They can have an agenda and still check a fact you idiot.

Trump said he never paid his lawyer in the Daniels affair.
Now he says he did. He lied.

FOX news even said this.
It’s not that difficult.

[Spurminator]

^^^

Fetal position posting; nothing for me to do, tbh.

'Cept maybe this: :lmao :lmao :lmao

It would certainly be an improvement to your attempts to string words together into coherent and compelling thoughts.

[Spurtacular]

They disclose how they operate, how they make their money, etc:
https://www.snopes.com/about-snopes/

They source all their claims. You're free to agree to disagree with their takes, but you can't say they didn't source it.

What specific concern do you have, tbh? Or is this one of those 'I don't trust anything from anywhere' loon thingie?

I don't have a concern. I know what they are. They could merge with DNC.org and nothing would change about their coverage.

[Spurtacular]

It would certainly be an improvement to your attempts to string words together into coherent and compelling thoughts.

Coming at me with fifth grade come-ons after already posting dumb sh** ain't gonna improve your standing, bro.

[Spurtacular]

They can have an agenda and still check a fact you idiot.



SMDH

[ElNono]

I don't have a concern. I know what they are. They could merge with DNC.org and nothing would change about their coverage.

I don't even know what you're talking about, tbh...

[Mikeanaro]

That site is utter diarrhea, it serves to fit the liberal agenda, every time you search some political issue on goggle/yahoo one of the first results is the FACT CHECKER.
And of course everything negative against dems is = FALSE, DEMOCRATS ARE THE BEST EVER!

[Spurtacular]

....

[Spurtacular]

That site is utter diarrhea, it serves to fit the liberal agenda, every time you search some political issue on goggle/yahoo one of the first results is the FACT CHECKER.
And of course everything negative against dems is = FALSE, DEMOCRATS ARE THE BEST EVER!
ElNono doesn't know what you're talking about.

[Mikeanaro]

ElNono (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8054) doesn't know what you're talking about.
Pretty pointless site if you ask me, with Twitter and other social sites information cant be held to distort at will.
We are not in the 50s anymore, when people used to say ¨ IT´S TRUE, THE RADIO JUST SAID IT¨.

[pgardn]

SMDH

You are an idiot.
Everyone has some sort of an agenda and political leanings.
Get out of your house.

[Spurtacular]

Pretty pointless site if you ask me, with Twitter and other social sites information cant be held to distort at will.
We are not in the 50s anymore, when people used to say ¨ IT´S TRUE, THE RADIO JUST SAID IT¨.

It could've had a point / "legitimacy" (as far as Dems are concerned) if they had bothered to only slant their coverage and not be an outright propaganda site. But as with all liberal orgs, they got greedy and were too stupid to mask their coverage.

[Spurtacular]

You are an idiot.
Everyone has some sort of an agenda and political leanings.
Get out of your house.

Okay, now let that sink in. Your own words, bro.

[ElNono]

Honestly, what I find hilarious is the fact that while it might seem comforting to some people to pick and choose the reality they want to live in, that's not really how reality works.

There might be a lot of topics where there's a gray area, and it's great to point that out and debate it, but there's also a lot of topics where facts are just facts.

White is white, black is black, the earth is round, Pi is a number with specific properties, humans can create life in-vitro, etc, etc, etc...

Plus, there's degrees of plausibility in face of evidence.

You could say, gravity is not real! It might not apply in quantum mechanics!... ok, fair enough, plausible, let's talk about that. But then you say, gravity isn't real! It's a CIA front because conspiratard said so... so, how is that not laughable?

It's actually unfortunate we live at a time where the largely uneducated get savagely preyed upon, tbh...

[ElNono]

That site is utter diarrhea, it serves to fit the liberal agenda, every time you search some political issue on goggle/yahoo one of the first results is the FACT CHECKER.
And of course everything negative against dems is = FALSE, DEMOCRATS ARE THE BEST EVER!


ElNono doesn't know what you're talking about.


Pretty pointless site if you ask me, with Twitter and other social sites information cant be held to distort at will.
We are not in the 50s anymore, when people used to say ¨ IT´S TRUE, THE RADIO JUST SAID IT¨.

I have no idea what you guys are talking about... I actually asked for specific concerns, but I've got none back...

It's not even a site I visit frequently or anything, but I do know they source everything they post... which is actually not what happens in social media, etc...

[Spurtacular]

Honestly, what I find hilarious is the fact that while it might seem comforting to some people to pick and choose the reality they want to live in, that's not really how reality works.

There might be a lot of topics where there's a gray area, and it's great to point that out and debate it, but there's also a lot of topics where facts are just facts.

White is white, black is black, the earth is round, Pi is a number with specific properties, humans can create life in-vitro, etc, etc, etc...

Plus, there's degrees of plausibility in face of evidence.

You could say, gravity is not real! It might not apply in quantum mechanics!... ok, fair enough, plausible, let's talk about that. But then you say, gravity isn't real! It's a CIA front because conspiratard said so... so, how is that now laughable?

It's actually unfortunate we live at a time where the largely uneducated get savagely preyed upon, tbh...

Your argument is outright arrogant / the epitome of naivety. You are trying to make the establishment's facts analogous to math/science. Next time, you may want to reevaluate the value of your future smugness.

[pgardn]

Pretty pointless site if you ask me, with Twitter and other social sites information cant be held to distort at will.
We are not in the 50s anymore, when people used to say ¨ IT´S TRUE, THE RADIO JUST SAID IT¨.

So Donald Trump, who said on Telivision he did not pay a lawyer in the Daniels affair, and then later recanted in a tweet...
That can’t be trusted? Because Trump said it on TV. When Trump writes an article on David Duke, and then says on TV he does not know who Daviid Duke is... Cant trust that. After he admitted to both ON TV.

Shit. WAter is not H2O and we did not go to the moon. Facts don’t exist. Anything can be twisted.
The circumference of a circle is not 3.14... times bigger than its diameter.
The Greeks... fck em.

So pointless, you got that.

[Mikeanaro]

It could've had a point / "legitimacy" (as far as Dems are concerned) if they had bothered to only slant their coverage and not be an outright propaganda site. But as with all liberal orgs, they got greedy and were too stupid to mask their coverage.
Because they cant help it, they need to at least let you know if you think a little different you have problems.
Once a place like Wikileaks says Dems are full of shit, they really are...
All the shit they leaked from Argentina was pristine, those guys know their stuff.

But since its not Dem friendly, LETS ROAST THOSE ANIMALS!
But if Zuckerberg shares private data to the government and makes some bucks selling that info to corporations too, ITS OK YOU GO BOY!

[pgardn]

Your argument is outright arrogant / the epitome of naivety. You are trying to make the establishment's facts analogous to math/science. Next time, you may want to reevaluate the value of your future smugness.

You are truly an idiot.
Mr. Debate.... You see, I know how to make logical arguments.
GTFOH.

Your gig is old and you are a fruitbat.

[pgardn]

Okay, now let that sink in. Your own words, bro.

Yes.

Its sunk in.
As the truth.

But some, like you, go for the most bizarre scenario possible.

[ElNono]

Your argument is outright arrogant / the epitome of naivety. You are trying to make the establishment's facts analogous to math/science. Next time, you may want to reevaluate the value of your future smugness.

:lol I've asked you about your concern, you listed none. You started by claiming the site was operated by a 50 year old couple, when you had no idea how that site operated at all.

At least if you want to have an honest take, do the legwork. There's nothing wrong with the uneducated because they didn't have the possibility to educate themselves. But being uneducated out of laziness gets no sympathy from me.

And there's absolutely no difference between facts on one area to another, tbh, not even sure what you're arguing...

[pgardn]

Willfully ignorant.
Its true because I want it to be and because it’s more interesting my way.

Spurtacular...

[Mikeanaro]

So Donald Trump, who said on Telivision he did not pay a lawyer in the Daniels affair, and then later recanted in a tweet...
That can’t be trusted? Because Trump said it on TV. When Trump writes an article on David Duke, and then says on TV he does not know who Daviid Duke is... Cant trust that. After he admitted to both ON TV.

Shit. WAter is not H2O and we did not go to the moon. Facts don’t exist. Anything can be twisted.
The circumference of a circle is not 3.14... times bigger than its diameter.
The Greeks... fck em.

So pointless, you got that.
Facts exists, you love to be twisted.
Numbers dont lie, but they can be manipulated to show what you want to show.

Trump fucked that cheap whore, and there is no crime he is just trolling until some day he will have enough and people will start to get their asses flying out of WH, FBI etc.
Fake news are so big that he doesnt even care thats why he throws that shit so you lose your mind and the other day its the opposite.

He is doing great with the economy and international affairs, making important deals and all your stupid dem buddies ask is about Stormy and Russia.
That kind of stuff only expose who you dems really are, thats a fact and cant be twisted.

Womens have pussy, cant have a dick, thats a fact.
Keep it simple.

[pgardn]

Facts exists, you love to be twisted.
Numbers dont lie, but they can be manipulated to show what you want to show.

Trump fucked that cheap whore, and there is no crime he is just trolling until some day he will have enough and people will start to get their asses flying out of WH, FBI etc.
Fake news are so big that he doesnt even care thats why he throws that shit so you lose your mind and the other day its the opposite.

He is doing great with the economy and international affairs, making important deals and all your stupid dem buddies ask is about Stormy and Russia.
That kind of stuff only expose who you dems really are, thats a fact and cant be twisted.

Womens have pussy, cant have a dick, thats a fact.
Keep it simple.

Trump is just trolling... So he’s not lying or a liar.

Facts...

You are seriously and transparently disingenuous.

[ElNono]

There's a long list of medical diagnosis for people that lose grasp of reality...

I'm actually a swell guy and worry about the Cosmoreds of the world, tbh, mental health is serious business...

[ElNono]

Facts exists, you love to be twisted.
Numbers dont lie, but they can be manipulated to show what you want to show.

Trump fucked that cheap whore, and there is no crime he is just trolling until some day he will have enough and people will start to get their asses flying out of WH, FBI etc.
Fake news are so big that he doesnt even care thats why he throws that shit so you lose your mind and the other day its the opposite.

He is doing great with the economy and international affairs, making important deals and all your stupid dem buddies ask is about Stormy and Russia.
That kind of stuff only expose who you dems really are, thats a fact and cant be twisted.

Womens have pussy, cant have a dick, thats a fact.
Keep it simple.

Honestly, I was just praising Trump for bringing out the fringe out of the shadows, tbh... not even sure if he intended that, but I always wondered how The Enquirer was still in business with covers like "Shillary slept with space aliens", and it's just hilarious, tbh.. :lol

[Mikeanaro]

Trump is just trolling... So he’s not lying or a liar.

Facts...

You are seriously and transparently disingenuous.
People already knew Hilda was shit, and even the ones who didnt like Trump voted for him.
Thats why Dems appealed to illegals to get votes no matter what when in fact they were against them.

They lost, Trump won and the Russian tale came in.
That was like 2 years ago, there are no economy/education/deals/navy/ecology interest everything is about Russia/Stormy.

Thats a fact, people prefers that.
92% chances was a fact? Fake news is a fact.

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/fe/aa/4a/feaa4a6ecba51a7251fbb1f8bf6dc5b6.jpg

People´s choice.

[Spurtacular]

:lol I've asked you about your concern, you listed none. You started by claiming the site was operated by a 50 year old couple, when you had no idea how that site operated at all.

At least if you want to have an honest take, do the legwork. There's nothing wrong with the uneducated because they didn't have the possibility to educate themselves. But being uneducated out of laziness gets no sympathy from me.

And there's absolutely no difference between facts on one area to another, tbh, not even sure what you're arguing...

I don't have a concern b/c I was smart enough to size up Snopes a long time ago. They started as a 50-year-old couple pretty much doing the same sh** now. If they added a few staff to look more legit to people (like you) who want to really believe, then that is what it is. But they never needed more than two b/c it was mainly outside entities writing all their sh** anyways.

You yourself have admitted that you haven't followed them; if you had, you might've noticed that their stuff mostly reads like DNC press releases.

[Spurtacular]

You are truly an idiot.
Mr. Debate.... You see, I know how to make logical arguments.
GTFOH.

Your gig is old and you are a fruitbat.

Just your nightly tantrum. :lol

[pgardn]

There's a long list of medical diagnosis for people that lose grasp of reality...

I'm actually a swell guy and worry about the Cosmoreds of the world, tbh, mental health is serious business...

These people willfully choose to believe the most unlikely explanation... it’s astounding. Just to back some senseless perception that they were somehow duped and cheated their entire life. Persecution complex. They are the snowflakes. The Deep State, the MSM, the ducks on the pond... all after and against them. Fooling them for no reason. Exhausting life being perpetually paranoid it would seem.

[pgardn]

People already knew Hilda was shit, and even the ones who didnt like Trump voted for him.
Thats why Dems appealed to illegals to get votes no matter what when in fact they were against them.

They lost, Trump won and the Russian tale came in.
That was like 2 years ago, there are no economy/education/deals/navy/ecology interest everything is about Russia/Stormy.

Thats a fact, people prefers that.
92% chances was a fact? Fake news is a fact.

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/fe/aa/4a/feaa4a6ecba51a7251fbb1f8bf6dc5b6.jpg

People´s choice.

The Russia tale is not a tale. The Russians screwed with our election. Trump has admitted this.
NOT that they got Trump elected, separate the two.

The rest... What? Ecology?

Yes.
Trump won.
He is the president.
And a liar.

[Mikeanaro]

Honestly, I was just praising Trump for bringing out the fringe out of the shadows, tbh... not even sure if he intended that, but I always wondered how The Enquirer was still in business with covers like "Shillary slept with space aliens", and it's just hilarious, tbh.. :lol
Lol that bizarre stuff is awesome, have you seen the papers in Hitman Blood Money? National Enquirer material.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/51/93/ff/5193ff524072dfd38c2b8f8135510c7c.jpg

[pgardn]

Lol that bizarre stuff is awesome, have you seen the papers in Hitman Blood Money? National Enquirer material.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/51/93/ff/5193ff524072dfd38c2b8f8135510c7c.jpg

You don’t have a clue what to read.
Quit looking at stuff in the grocery store line.

BTW, Trump loves the National Enquirer.
He has used it for facts.
oh, he’s just trolling... whatever...

[ElNono]

I don't have a concern b/c I was smart enough to size up Snopes a long time ago. They started as a 50-year-old couple pretty much doing the same sh** now. If they added a few staff to look more legit to people (like you) who want to really believe, then that is what it is. But they never needed more than two b/c it was mainly outside entities writing all their sh** anyways.

You yourself have admitted that you haven't followed them; if you had, you might've noticed that their stuff mostly reads like DNC press releases.

lol @ the bolded, then you call me smug... smh

Point being, if you can't pinpoint what's wrong with them, how can I take you seriously? You don't like they out lies because they source them? Do they make up stories? I mean, what's you real beef with them? Provide a link if necessary...

[ElNono]

Lol that bizarre stuff is awesome, have you seen the papers in Hitman Blood Money? National Enquirer material.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/51/93/ff/5193ff524072dfd38c2b8f8135510c7c.jpg

:lmao

There's clearly an audience for that...

[Mikeanaro]

You don’t have a clue what to read.
Quit looking at stuff in the grocery store line.

BTW, Trump loves the National Enquirer.
He has used it for facts.
oh, he’s just trolling... whatever...
If you dont understand trolling you are free to have your opinions.

https://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/hillary-enquirer-5-0.jpg?quality=95&w=650&h=377

[Spurtacular]

lol @ the bolded, then you call me smug... smh

Point being, if you can't pinpoint what's wrong with them, how can I take you seriously? You don't like they out lies because they source them? Do they make up stories? I mean, what's you real beef with them? Provide a link if necessary...

It's no more smug than calling out any other organization for having an agenda. Quite the difference from equating media dissemination with math/science.

[Blake]

:lol Still blaming God.

That'd be like blaming Santa

[ElNono]

It's no more smug than calling out any other organization for having an agenda. Quite the difference from equating media dissemination with math/science.

It's your claim... what are they, in your view? left, right? What makes them left or right?

I mean, it's not difficult to point at CNN or Fox and get a quick example of opinion-based bias...

[ElNono]

If you can't point me to a fact they presented as such that it's not, then what's the difference with a math/science fact? Do they do opinion?

Is it a case of "what I want to believe" type of thing?

[ElNono]

If Trump signs a law like the tax cuts and I get to learn that from the media, is that a sham, tbh?... how deep does the rabbit hole goes?

It's a fact he signed it, even though I didn't see it. Where's the agenda there?

[Mikeanaro]

If Trump signs a law like the tax cuts and I get to learn that from the media, is that a sham, tbh?... how deep does the rabbit hole goes?

It's a fact he signed it, even though I didn't see it. Where's the agenda there?
What the media does is
A) Pro Trump = you can save at least 1k in a year
B) Anti-Trump = just 1k? thats nothing

And you may form an opinion based on that, may be A or B or neutral.

[Spurtacular]

That'd be like blaming Santa

Yea, Santa isn't the one who cucked you either. :lmao

[Mikeanaro]

Yea, Santa isn't the one who cucked you either. :lmao
:hat

[ElNono]

What the media does is
A) Pro Trump = you can save at least 1k in a year
B) Anti-Trump = just 1k? thats nothing

And you may form an opinion based on that, may be A or B or neutral.

But the fact that the tax cuts were signed is a fact... that's not debatable... how anybody feels about it is inconsequential to the fact.

[ElNono]

I mean, if the prerogative is that certain media will react to certain facts with an opinion and a narrative, that's fine. It still doesn't invalidate the fact.

You just need to know how to separate opinion from non opinion.

That's basically what critical thinking is, tbh...

[Mikeanaro]

But the fact that the tax cuts were signed is a fact... that's not debatable... how anybody feels about it is inconsequential to the fact.
Try to explain that to liberals, ¨muh feelangs¨ over facts.

[Pavlov]

It's no more smug than calling out any other organization for having an agenda. Quite the difference from equating media dissemination with math/science.


Try to explain that to liberals, ¨muh feelangs¨ over facts.
How do you guys verify or refute a questionable claim you saw on the internet?

[ElNono]

Try to explain that to liberals, ¨muh feelangs¨ over facts.

plenty of snowflakes on both sides...

[Blake]

Yea, Santa isn't the one who cucked you either. :lmao


Although a person may experience a wide range of sexual obsessions, common themes involve those that may be considered forbidden, such as:

Homosexuality
Sexual abuse or violence
Sexual thoughts about friends
Incest
Infidelity
Sexual sadism or masochism
Sexual enslavement
Beastiality
Underage sex
Sex and religion as a form of blasphemy

The thoughts can occur with or without compulsions, and having such thoughts doesn't mean a person will act upon them.

It has been estimated that between six percent and 24 percent of people with OCD will experience some form of sexual obsession. The number may be even higher given that most people are reluctant to share such thoughts...

https://www.verywellmind.com/sexual-obsessions-in-ocd-2510558

Hope this helps :tu

[Spurtacular]

https://www.verywellmind.com/sexual-obsessions-in-ocd-2510558

Hope this helps :tu

Cuck trying to get clinical. :lol

[Spurtacular]

But the fact that the tax cuts were signed is a fact... that's not debatable... how anybody feels about it is inconsequential to the fact.


I mean, if the prerogative is that certain media will react to certain facts with an opinion and a narrative, that's fine. It still doesn't invalidate the fact.

You just need to know how to separate opinion from non opinion.

That's basically what critical thinking is, tbh...

You've been very assumptive that snopes simply sticks to straight-laced facts and that they are on the level.

[Blake]

Cuck trying to get clinical. :lol

You're clearly obsessed. Just trying to help.

[Spurtacular]

You're clearly obsessed. Just trying to help.

A cuck is the last person I'd go to for help.

[spurraider21]

You've been very assumptive that snopes simply sticks to straight-laced facts and that they are on the level.


I don't get the actual criticism of Snopes, tbh...

what's your take Spurtacular (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=49615)?


They disclose how they operate, how they make their money, etc:
https://www.snopes.com/about-snopes/

They source all their claims. You're free to agree to disagree with their takes, but you can't say they didn't source it.

What specific concern do you have, tbh? Or is this one of those 'I don't trust anything from anywhere' loon thingie?


I have no idea what you guys are talking about... I actually asked for specific concerns, but I've got none back...

It's not even a site I visit frequently or anything, but I do know they source everything they post... which is actually not what happens in social media, etc...


:lol I've asked you about your concern, you listed none. You started by claiming the site was operated by a 50 year old couple, when you had no idea how that site operated at all.

At least if you want to have an honest take, do the legwork. There's nothing wrong with the uneducated because they didn't have the possibility to educate themselves. But being uneducated out of laziness gets no sympathy from me


Point being, if you can't pinpoint what's wrong with them, how can I take you seriously? You don't like they out lies because they source them? Do they make up stories? I mean, what's you real beef with them? Provide a link if necessary...


If you can't point me to a fact they presented as such that it's not, then...
:lol brah derp never gets into specifics. Dude has whined about the Clinton’s cartel but has never articulated a single crime he thinks they committed

[Spurtacular]

:lol brah derp never gets into specifics. Dude has whined about the Clinton’s cartel but has never articulated a single crime he thinks they committed

:lol #StillWithHer
:lol Pretending Hillary is clean.

[Blake]

A cuck is the last person I'd go to for help.

As long as you go for help.

[spurraider21]

Yeah just like that

[Spurtacular]

As long as you go for help.

Based on a cuck's evaluation? Pass.

[Spurtacular]

Yeah just like that

If you're gonna be dumb enough to hitch your cart to Hillary....

[Blake]

Based on a cuck's evaluation? Pass.

You can't go 3 posts without talking passive aggressively about cucks. It doesn't take a Freud to see you've got issues.

[Blake]

If you're gonna be dumb enough to hitch your cart to Hillary....

Very assumptive

[Spurtacular]

You can't go 3 posts without talking passive aggressively about cucks. It doesn't take a Freud to see you've got issues.

It doesn't take Freud to see that you want to go back to the days of your hero's 'Don't ask, don't tell.'

[Reck]

Oh shocking. Derp believes this stuff.

[Spurtacular]

Oh shocking. Derp believes this stuff.

Oh shocking. Tranny believes in the infallibility of snopes.

[RandomGuy]

People already knew Hilda was shit, and even the ones who didnt like Trump voted for him.
Thats why Dems appealed to illegals to get votes no matter what when in fact they were against them.

They lost, Trump won and the Russian tale came in.
That was like 2 years ago, there are no economy/education/deals/navy/ecology interest everything is about Russia/Stormy.

Thats a fact, people prefers that.
92% chances was a fact? Fake news is a fact.

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/fe/aa/4a/feaa4a6ecba51a7251fbb1f8bf6dc5b6.jpg

People´s choice.

Trumps conflicts of interest require a 600+ line spreadsheet to track.

I don't believe for a second that you give a shit about anything Hillary did.

https://sunlightfoundation.com/tracking-trumps-conflicts-of-interest/

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-_vJDLlCtd94zaieFeB2qdLB9WUdNPIryWBFNuXAAZ8/edit#gid=397855752

[spurraider21]

Oh shocking. Tranny believes in the infallibility of snopes.
yes those are the two choices. CIA operation or infallible

[RandomGuy]

:lol Caps Lock
:lol Purporting that finding all the truth is just a matter of a few clicks.

https://www.google.com/search?q=does+spurtacular+have+sex+with+chickens&oq=does+spurtacular+have+sex+with+chickens

[Pavlov]

Oh shocking. Tranny believes in the infallibility of snopes.

How do you guys verify or refute a questionable claim you saw on the internet?

[Blake]

It doesn't take Freud to see that you want to go back to the days of your hero's 'Don't ask, don't tell.'

I've never spoken of that issue here.

You can't go 3 posts without talking about cucks or trannies

[ElNono]

You've been very assumptive that snopes simply sticks to straight-laced facts and that they are on the level.

You've been very lacking when asked to present specifics to the contrary...

I need more than "I'm smart and sized them up a while ago"... Not that I don't think you're smart or not, but "take my word for it" doesn't really work for me...

[Spurtacular]

yes those are the two choices. CIA operation or infallible

Quote me where I said it was a CIA operation.

[Spurtacular]

You've been very lacking when asked to present specifics to the contrary...

I need more than "I'm smart and sized them up a while ago"... Not that I don't think you're smart or not, but "take my word for it" doesn't really work for me...

I've never said I need to convince you. My point is you have blind faith in them. We'll see where that gets you.

[Spurtacular]

I've never spoken of that issue here.

You can't go 3 posts without talking about cucks or trannies

That's how 'Don't ask, don't tell' works.

:lmao Today's cuck

AaronY (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=27732) "nother level"

[Pavlov]

Are you pretending it's not a front group?A front for whom?

[Spurminator]

I've never said I need to convince you. My point is you have blind faith in them. We'll see where that gets you.

You don't know what blind faith is.

Add that to the list, along with "memes."

[Spurtacular]

A front for whom?

We already know you'd never call out snopes. I was talking to the non koolaid drinker.

[Spurtacular]

You don't know what blind faith is.

Add that to the list, along with "memes."

You've consistently been quite lame.

[Pavlov]

We already know you'd never call out snopes. I was talking to the non koolaid drinker.I'm asking you for whom you claim Snopes is a front group.

[Spurtacular]

I'm asking you for whom you claim Snopes is a front group.

I know what you're asking. But we know you're going to believe in them through and through, hence the koolaid drinker reference.

[Pavlov]

I know what you're asking. But we know you're going to believe in them through and through, hence the koolaid drinker reference.But for whom are you saying they are a front organization?

[Spurtacular]

But for whom are you saying they are a front organization?

For an entity who is grateful that you're a willing pawn.

[Pavlov]

For an entity who is grateful that you're a willing pawn.And which entity is that?

[Spurtacular]

And which entity is that?

You're on a blue pill regimen, son. That ain't changing.

[Pavlov]

You're on a blue pill regimen, son. That ain't changing.What is the name of the entity you are talking about?

[spurraider21]

thread summary

Derp: snopes is unreliable
nono: how?
Derp: redpill, bro


Derp: snopes is a front
chump: for who?
Derp: redpill, bro

[Spurtacular]

thread summary

Derp: snopes is unreliable
nono: how?
Derp: redpill, bro


Derp: snopes is a front
chump: for who?
Derp: redpill, bro

:lol This ain't my thread. I don't need to go to the wall for it.
:lol The fact that all the chumpettes love snopes comes as no surprise.

[Chucho]

Know what this forum REALLY needs? Taking emojis away from people who over use them, like dabom and Spurts. They'd be lost without those.

[Blake]

Know what this forum REALLY needs? Taking emojis away from people who over use them, like dabom and Spurts. They'd be lost without those.

:lol

[spurraider21]

:lol This ain't my thread. I don't need to go to the wall for it.
:lol The fact that all the chumpettes love snopes comes as no surprise.
you've got the most posts in the thread, so its fitting that a thread summary would feature you

and you not being the OP has never stopped you from embarrassing yourself

[Pavlov]

:lol This ain't my thread. I don't need to go to the wall for it.
:lol The fact that all the chumpettes love snopes comes as no surprise.You're afraid we'll laugh at you again if you actually answer.

Too late tbh.

[Spurtacular]

you've got the most posts in the thread, so its fitting that a thread summary would feature you

and you not being the OP has never stopped you from embarrassing yourself

You want me to be specific? The OP was specific, and not one chumpette regarded the story.

[Pavlov]

You want me to be specific? The OP was specific, and not one chumpette regarded the story.The OP didn't present a convincing case tbh.

I'm sure you can, since you checked Snopes out yourself.

So what entity are you talking about?

[spurraider21]

You want me to be specific?
Sure. You think Snopes is a front. Who/what is it a front for?

[ElNono]

I've never said I need to convince you. My point is you have blind faith in them. We'll see where that gets you.

Faith is the wrong word. Faith means that I can't demonstrably prove what I claimed, but I hope it to be true.

My claim was that their source their fact checking, which they do. That creates *trust*, not faith.

Again, reality is not faith, it's not what we hope it to be, it either is, is not, or we don't have a conclusive answer yet, and we theorize and debate it.

[Spurtacular]

The OP didn't present a convincing case tbh.

I'm sure you can, since you checked Snopes out yourself.

So what entity are you talking about?

He presented a believable case. You haven't listed any actual objections though. Instead you made it about your butt posting. Par.

[Pavlov]

He presented a believable case. You haven't listed any actual objections though.I just did. It wasn't a convincing case.


Instead you made it about your butt posting. Par.Actually you made it about your belief it's a front organization.

A front organization for whom?

[Blake]

I've never said I need to convince you. My point is you have blind faith in them. We'll see where that gets you.

Lol blind faith.

It's usually not terribly hard to verify their research. You're just really lazy and stupid.

[Spurtacular]

Faith is the wrong word. Faith means that I can't demonstrably prove what I claimed, but I hope it to be true.

My claim was that their source their fact checking, which they do. That creates *trust*, not faith.

Again, reality is not faith, it's not what we hope it to be, it either is, is not, or we don't have a conclusive answer yet, and we theorize and debate it.

Their sources are often far from trustworthy. You yourself said you don't follow them closely; that seems a bit ironic for someone strongly advocating for them.

[Blake]

He presented a believable case.

Blind faith

[Blake]

He presented a believable case.

Blind faith

[Blake]

Their sources are often far from trustworthy. You yourself said you don't follow them closely; that seems a bit ironic for someone strongly advocating for them.

Give an example

[Chris]

Hive Mind buzzing today.

[Mikeanaro]

Trumps conflicts of interest require a 600+ line spreadsheet to track.

I don't believe for a second that you give a shit about anything Hillary did.

https://sunlightfoundation.com/tracking-trumps-conflicts-of-interest/

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-_vJDLlCtd94zaieFeB2qdLB9WUdNPIryWBFNuXAAZ8/edit#gid=397855752
Sure, so he did all the crimes in the world in just 2 years?
Funny because Trump has been around for 40 years and has never been associated with russians.

The liberal agenda is exhausting, what we already know is they eat themselves to gain power
Obongo resumes Hilda in 2 minutes.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6f4tZFZ_-g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkJSQGqzq70

Then he and Michael endorse her.

[Pavlov]

Hive Mind buzzing today.Great.

Do you think Snopes is a front operation for some other entity?

If so, who?

[Blake]

Hive Mind buzzing today.

Simple logic making you guys twist on par

[RandomGuy]

Know what this forum REALLY needs? Taking emojis away from people who over use them, like dabom and Spurts. They'd be lost without those.

No shit. A smiley bandwidth limit, past which you get script that says "poster is an idiot that can't seem to express himself without emojis"

90% of all of Spurt's posts are either "smiley + derision" or "derision + smiley". Dude is lazy as all get out. Makes mouse look industrious.

[Spurtacular]

ElNono

Since trust is your pivotal play here. Here is who you are trusting:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4730092/Snopes-brink-founder-accused-fraud-lying.html

[Chris]

Great.

Do you think Snopes is a front operation for some other entity?

If so, who?

I think Clapper and Brennan were working with or through Snopes along with other fake media outlets and social media platforms like Facebook and Twitter. The CIA and DNI was undoubtedly trying to influence the election imo. Snopes is heavily biased - this is common knowledge, but it favors your ideology so naturally you would want to defend it.

[Mikeanaro]

plenty of snowflakes on both sides...
Most are liberals... gays lesbians transgenders, spoiled brats, and all that crappy people that thinks they are entitled to everything, even opinions.
They installed the Trump is racist/bigot/rapist/etc etc, and the Confederation HERTZ MANG FEEL-EINGS!
Little nazi faggots, fuck them.

I understand you dont have a side but this current situation was caused by these liberal idiots who keep ¨resisting¨ the unavoidable.

Now, do you imagine the same scenario if Hillary was the winner? rednecks crying everywhere, shooting people with their toothless smiles?

[RandomGuy]

Sure, so he did all the crimes in the world in just 2 years?
Funny because Trump has been around for 40 years and has never been associated with russians.


https://media3.giphy.com/media/6yRVg0HWzgS88/giphy.gif

Can't have a conflict of interest about your government job before you have a government job.

I can see you didn't bother reading what was linked, nor even have the faintest glimmer about what I was talking about.


Dunning–Kruger effect. In the field of psychology, the Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias wherein people of low ability have illusory superiority, mistakenly assessing their cognitive ability as greater than it is.

You are an idiot.

[RandomGuy]

Most are liberals... gays lesbians transgenders, spoiled brats, and all that crappy people that thinks they are entitled to everything, even opinions.
They installed the Trump is racist/bigot/rapist/etc etc, and the Confederation HERTZ MANG FEEL-EINGS!
Little nazi faggots, fuck them.

I understand you dont have a side but this current situation was caused by these liberal idiots who keep ¨resisting¨ the unavoidable.

Now, do you imagine the same scenario if Hillary was the winner? rednecks crying everywhere, shooting people with their toothless smiles?

Fox News Reporter: Sarah Huckabee Sanders Deserves Apology After Press Dinner
Fox News Host Explodes In Anger And Demands Apology For Sarah Huckabee Sanders
SARAH HUCKABEE SANDERS OWED APOLOGY AFTER WHCA DINNER, SCARAMUCCI AND OTHERS DEMAND

[Pavlov]

I think Clapper and Brennan were working with or through Snopes along with other fake media outlets and social media platforms like Facebook and Twitter. The CIA and DNI was undoubtedly trying to influence the election imo. Snopes is heavily biased - this is common knowledge, but it favors your ideology so naturally you would want to defend it.If they are a front for a US government agency, they are a front for Trump now. Are you sure of your claim Snopes is a front for the CIA/DNI?

Your claim of bias is your own. Feel free to provide evidence for that.

[Mikeanaro]

https://media3.giphy.com/media/6yRVg0HWzgS88/giphy.gif

Can't have a conflict of interest about your government job before you have a government job.

I can see you didn't bother reading what was linked, nor even have the faintest glimmer about what I was talking about.



You are an idiot.
Whats the conflict of interest you fucking psycho?
You have nothing, dont event bother reading your bibles its all shit.
You support someone who has accomplished nothing in 30 years, she never gave something to women except his husband naked.

This man made more than your corrupt fucks, go with your ¨Butthurted-Analger¨ effect and get fucked in a dead alley by bums.

Lol, using a retard that is a nobody in the music business as a valid meme, what a loser.

[Mikeanaro]

Jesus fucking Christ are you jealous of spurt being the stupidest fucker in the world, and feel unloved?

let me let you in on a little secret, you piece of shit, being the stupidest fucker in the world is not something that you should aspire to be. I know in your little box fort in your mothers basement, spurts self loathing and denial of his homosexuality may look glamorous, I guess.

Its not. So quit being a worthless piece of shit
Eat dick, soft mannered Bonner fan...

If you are gay thats your problem, hug your gayness on some other place.

[Mikeanaro]

Fox News Reporter: Sarah Huckabee Sanders Deserves Apology After Press Dinner
Fox News Host Explodes In Anger And Demands Apology For Sarah Huckabee Sanders
SARAH HUCKABEE SANDERS OWED APOLOGY AFTER WHCA DINNER, SCARAMUCCI AND OTHERS DEMAND
You need a shrink.

I wanna spin shit because I need it so badly.

[Spurtacular]

Jesus fucking Christ are you jealous of spurt being the stupidest fucker in the world, and feel unloved?

let me let you in on a little secret, you piece of shit, being the stupidest fucker in the world is not something that you should aspire to be. I know in your little box fort in your mothers basement, spurts self loathing and denial of his homosexuality may look glamorous, I guess.

Its not. So quit being a worthless piece of shit

You should seriously get on meds or something, dude. Can't afford them? Affordable healthcare not so affordable after all?

[Spurtacular]

If they are a front for a US government agency, they are a front for Trump now. Are you sure of your claim Snopes is a front for the CIA/DNI?

Your claim of bias is your own. Feel free to provide evidence for that.

Show us the proof.

[Pavlov]

Show us the proof.Trump is President of the United States.

[Spurtacular]

Trump is President of the United States.

That's supposed to be proof?

[Pavlov]

That's supposed to be proof?Trump appointed the DNI and head of the CIA.

Do you need an org chart?

[Spurtacular]

Trump appointed the DNI and head of the CIA.

Do you need an org chart?

Oh, ulterior motives just stop existing once Trump was elected? You suck at this.

[Pavlov]

Oh, ulterior motives just stop existing once Trump was elected? You suck at this.So now they are Trump's ulterior motives according to you.

OK.

[Spurtacular]

So now they are Trump's ulterior motives according to you.

OK.

No. The CIA is basically a multi-trillion dollar apparatus. Their agenda doesn't disappear just cos Trump was elected.

[spurraider21]

ElNono (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8054)

Since trust is your pivotal play here. Here is who you are trusting:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4730092/Snopes-brink-founder-accused-fraud-lying.html
nobody trusts snopes because they are snopes. i dont care of the founder of snopes is a pathological liar. if all the claims on the website are adequately sourced, then it's reliable, period.

people trust snopes because all their claims are sourced

[Pavlov]

No. The CIA is basically a multi-trillion dollar apparatus.You got a firm valuation number? I'd love to see it.


Their agenda doesn't disappear just cos Trump was elected.So Trump isn't in control of the CIA or DNI according to you. OK.

[Pavlov]

nobody trusts snopes because they are snopes.

they trust snopes because all their claims are sourcedRight. It's not like they are the only fact checkers out there. They just have first in field brand recognition.

Derp thinks they are all Trump CIA fronts.

[Mikeanaro]

Oh shit, you’re in a panic too. HAHAHA

figures, you and your girl are working at about the same intellectual level. Again, you fucking moron, it’s ok that you’re gay. If you admit it you might not be such a worthless piece of shit.

That self loathing due to being pissed at yourself for fantasizing about sucking cock has made you an angry little girl. Let it go. You and spurty can have your first open gay experience together.

Don’t worry, you two can call each other hatefilled names while doing it so you don’t enjoy it too much.
You are gay, my post hit your nerves and you jumped like the lady queen you are.
Your fucking freaks attacked Trump when he never did anything against your abominations.

Live with it, I said GAYS LESBIANS TRANSGENDERS and your bitch side got CRAZY.
You are part of the problem, hope you get killed in one of your protests.
Lol fucking idiots, bringing dildos and cock rings to a gun fight!

:lmao

[Blake]

I think Clapper and Brennan were working with or through Snopes.....


Claim: FALSE

[Pavlov]

The CIA is basically a multi-trillion dollar apparatus.Claim: CROFL

[Blake]

"CLAIM

Abraham Lincoln was an accomplished wrestler who was inducted into the Wrestling Hall of Fame with a near-perfect record.

RATING: MIXTURE"

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/is-lincoln-in-wrestling-hall-of-fame/



CIA conspiracy to keep him partially out

[RandomGuy]

Whats the conflict of interest you fucking psycho?
You have nothing, dont event bother reading your bibles its all shit.
You support someone who has accomplished nothing in 30 years, she never gave something to women except his husband naked.

This man made more than your corrupt fucks, go with your ¨Butthurted-Analger¨ effect and get fucked in a dead alley by bums.

Lol, using a retard that is a nobody in the music business as a valid meme, what a loser.

(guffaws)
Argle bargle and meme-smack?

You do you buddy. smh

Not sure what you are smoking/drinking at the moment, but you aren't even really making sense. Maybe you will realize that when you sober up, but until then, I will pass on any real response.

[Mikeanaro]

(guffaws)
Argle bargle and meme-smack?

You do you buddy. smh

Not sure what you are smoking/drinking at the moment, but you aren't even really making sense. Maybe you will realize that when you sober up, but until then, I will pass on any real response.
You better pass, because you have nothing except whining.
Keep your head up.

[Blake]

You better pass, because you have nothing except whining.
Keep your head up.

That's rich








Most are liberals... gays lesbians transgenders, spoiled brats, and all that crappy people that thinks they are entitled to everything, even opinions.
They installed the Trump is racist/bigot/rapist/etc etc, and the Confederation HERTZ MANG FEEL-EINGS!
Little nazi faggots, fuck them.

I understand you dont have a side but this current situation was caused by these liberal idiots who keep ¨resisting¨ the unavoidable.

Now, do you imagine the same scenario if Hillary was the winner? rednecks crying everywhere, shooting people with their toothless smiles?

[Spurtacular]

You got a firm valuation number? I'd love to see it.



You wouldn't know what to make of such a number.

[Pavlov]

You wouldn't know what to do with it.I would read it.

Do you have the actual number?

[Blake]

You wouldn't know what to do with it.

Weak

[Mikeanaro]

It could not be any more obvious how far in denial you are. It must be awful to know that you want something you are so scared of.

No wonder you’re such a worthless fuck. You fantasize about doing something your parents told you was wrong. Probably difficult to go through life that way.

Youre gonna be like that fuck in Orlando. He hated himself for being gay like you do. Hated it so much, he had to pretend to be Muslim because he thought it would fool people.

When you finally do snap because you sucked the cock of, and got fucked by a big black guy, and you hate yourself for how much you liked it, and how disappointed your parents would be. When you decide to get the gun, just fucking shoot yourself. It’s nobody else’s fault that you are gay and sneak off to hook up at book stores and clubs with men. Punish yourself with the bullet, not an innocent bystander
Dude, get a doctor or a couple of hunks, this lack of dick is seriously making you a psycho.
No one would be so mad at a LGTB comment unless he is one of them.

Funny thing is you support a woman that got money from countries that pushes gays and lesbians off of buildings.
First your kind had no rights, then in more modern times they got rights, now that you got rights you get intolerant.
Fuck you all you freaks.

[Spurtacular]

I would read it.

Do you have the actual number?

Tell me the ramifications at the various ranges.

[Pavlov]

Tell me the ramifications at the various ranges.The ramification at any level is I would know the number you claim to know.

You didn't answer the question.

Do you have the actual number?

[Mikeanaro]

That's rich
Thats what she said before you entered into the house.

[Spurtacular]

The ramification at any level is I would know the number you claim to know.

You didn't answer the question.

Do you have the actual number?

So, you'd be where you like to go.

[koriwhat]

snopes lmao... dumbfucks are the only ones that believe anything coming from some fat obese slob whore and her loser fucking cuck. go figure liberals love snopes.

[Chucho]

Crazy how some people only come here to post rage tirades.

[Pavlov]

So, you'd be where you like to go.You didn't answer the question.

Do you have the actual number?

[dabom]

Crazy how some people only come here to post rage tirades.
koriwhat

[Pavlov]

Crazy how some people only come here to post rage tirades.Gotta wish death and rape on somebody....

[spurraider21]

Crazy how some people only come here to post rage tirades.
yeah... koriwhat, bonnerific, mikeanaro, booboo

[Spurtacular]

:cry More weeds please :cry

[Spurtacular]

Crazy how some people only come here to post rage tirades.

Mirror check.

Go ahead and show us how you've done anything but!

[Pavlov]

https://us-east-1.tchyn.io/snopes-production/uploads/2018/02/2nly.jpg


factcheck.org good now!

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/94/53/14/94531475567b56fe7adb4cbff770fcc7.png


:cuss


Trillion dollar CIA!

[Blake]

Thats what she said before you entered into the house.

Hey a personal jab! Maybe now nobody will notice your whining.

[Pavlov]

.Fake quote.

I asked you if you have the number.

Do you have the number?

Yes or no.

[Pavlov]

Mirror check.

Go ahead and show us how you've done anything but!I just see him mocking people most of the time tbh.

[Chucho]

Mirror check.

Go ahead and show us how you've done anything but!


If you think me calling you stupid is rage I put zero stock in that because you are indeed very stupid. You're still upset that I corrected your incorrect use of "pedantic".

[Chucho]

Thats what she said before you entered into the house.


I get what you're trying to get at here, but I don't think this makes sense. She is saying "that's rich" but, presumably, wouldn't that be to the infidel and not Blake? And if so, wouldn't that mean she is mocking the person she is having the affair with?

[Mikeanaro]

I get what you're trying to get at here, but I don't think this makes sense. She is saying "that's rich" but, presumably, wouldn't that be to the infidel and not Blake? And if so, wouldn't that mean she is mocking the person she is having the affair with?
But she was fucking everything not named Blake and having fun, right?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I don't even know what you're talking about, tbh...

Sure you do. He has his trusted sources and everything else can merge with DNC. It's not hard to see how he 'decides' to get his news.

[baseline bum]

Honestly, what I find hilarious is the fact that while it might seem comforting to some people to pick and choose the reality they want to live in, that's not really how reality works.

There might be a lot of topics where there's a gray area, and it's great to point that out and debate it, but there's also a lot of topics where facts are just facts.

White is white, black is black, the earth is round, Pi is a number with specific properties, humans can create life in-vitro, etc, etc, etc...

Plus, there's degrees of plausibility in face of evidence.

You could say, gravity is not real! It might not apply in quantum mechanics!... ok, fair enough, plausible, let's talk about that. But then you say, gravity isn't real! It's a CIA front because conspiratard said so... so, how is that not laughable?

It's actually unfortunate we live at a time where the largely uneducated get savagely preyed upon, tbh...

Gravity is a fictitious force tbh

[Spurtacular]

If you think me calling you stupid is rage I put zero stock in that because you are indeed very stupid. You're still upset that I corrected your incorrect use of "pedantic".

:lol I didn't even remember which retard did that, tbh. You're just not important like that. And :lol @ you basically exemplifying what you're accusing others of doing.

[Spurtacular]

Fake quote.



Another "fake quote" that captured your true sentiment.

[Spurtacular]

I asked you if you have the number.

Do you have the number?


It's been established that you cannot do anything with the number; and now you're just crying that I won't go into the weeds with you.

Prediction: You'll continue to butt post about this, nonetheless.

[Pavlov]

It's been established that you cannot do anything with the number; and now you're just crying that I won't go into the weeds with you.

Prediction: You'll continue to butt post about this, nonetheless.You never had the number.

You made up the trillion dollar figure.

[spurraider21]

he is also yet to tell us what mystery organization snopes is a front group for

[Spurtacular]

You never had the number.

You made up the trillion dollar figure.

Oh, you're under the impression that the CIA doesn't have even a trillion at stake?

:lol No wonder you're so easy to blue pill.

[Pavlov]

Oh, you're under the impression that the CIA doesn't have even a trillion at stake?OK, that's your claim.

How does the CIA have a trillion dollars "at stake"?

[spurraider21]

:lol No wonder you're so easy to blue pill.
:lmao

thread summary

Derp: snopes is unreliable
nono: how?
Derp: redpill, bro


Derp: snopes is a front
chump: for who?
Derp: redpill, bro

[Spurtacular]

OK, that's your claim.

How does the CIA have a trillion dollars "at stake"?

Just cos the chumpettes won't call you out, doesn't mean you're not making yourself look supremely stupid right now. :lol

[spurraider21]

derp's entire shtick is revealed truth

"i just know, bro"

[Pavlov]

Just cos the chumpettes won't call you out, doesn't mean you're not making yourself look supremely stupid right now. :lol


derp's entire shtick is revealed truth

"i just know, bro"ijustknowbro.com/redpill

[ElNono]

Their sources are often far from trustworthy. You yourself said you don't follow them closely; that seems a bit ironic for someone strongly advocating for them.

I have not advocated for them once in this thread, tbh... the times I've visited their site, the sources looked good to me... can you point at some instances that you feel they were not?

This whole thread seems to want to sow distrust of Snopes based on the claim they're a CIA front. The problem is that there's no evidence to substantiate it.

I'm not going to ask you to provide that evidence, it's not your claim. But you evidently seem to think there's some validity to it, and I'm asking what makes you think so?

[spurraider21]

I have not advocated for them once in this thread, tbh... the times I've visited their site, the sources looked good to me... can you point at some instances that you feel they were not?

This whole thread seems to want to sow distrust of Snopes based on the claim they're a CIA front. The problem is that there's no evidence to substantiate it.

I'm not going to ask you to provide that evidence, it's not your claim. But you evidently seem to think there's some validity to it, and I'm asking what makes you think so?
to quote what chinook once told me, you're trying to pry a manhole with a toothpick

[ElNono]

ElNono

Since trust is your pivotal play here. Here is who you are trusting:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4730092/Snopes-brink-founder-accused-fraud-lying.html

what's wrong with that?

Why would any of that reduce my trust on Snopes' content?

[ElNono]

to quote what chinook once told me, you're trying to pry a manhole with a toothpick

I have no beef with Spurtacular, tbh... or anybody really... not once I told him he was 'wrong' in this thread...

Everybody got their reasons, and the extent of my curiosity is what are those reasons, or better yet, what drive them... nobody has to answer...

[spurraider21]

I have no beef with Spurtacular, tbh... or anybody really... not once I told him he was 'wrong' in this thread...

Everybody got their reasons, and the extent of my curiosity is what are those reasons, or better yet, what drive them... nobody has to answer...
i'm not saying you have beef with him (or that you should)... but like you said, you are asking for reasons, and spurt is a guy who has never given reasons for any of his convictions or claims in the past. pretty unreasonable to expect him to suddenly open up

[Chris]

Kim Lacapria, Snopes’ main political “fact checker,” describes herself as “openly left-leaning” and a liberal. She has previously equated Tea Party conservatives with jihadists.

http://dailycaller.com/2016/06/17/fact-checking-snopes-websites-political-fact-checker-is-just-a-failed-liberal-blogger/


Snopes previously tried to “debunk” claims that the New York Times had colluded with Clinton’s campaign by warning them in advance about potentially negative stories that were about to be published, despite Wikileaks emails proving this to be true on two separate occasions.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2016/10/14/new-york-times-warns-clinton-campaign/
https://foia.state.gov/searchapp/DOCUMENTS/AugSept2016/F-2012-20462/DOC_0C05572024/C05572024.pdf


In December 2016, an investigative report revealed how Snopes was accused of using company money to pay for prostitutes.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4042194/Facebook-fact-checker-arbitrate-fake-news-accused-defrauding-website-pay-prostitutes-staff-includes-escort-porn-star-Vice-Vixen-domme.html


Spurtacular is correct in his assessment that Snopes was just a tool for the DNC. Snopes has been the "official" debunker for the Clinton Cartel since it has evolved from just a myth buster operation.

[spurraider21]

Kim Lacapria, Snopes’ main political “fact checker,” describes herself as “openly left-leaning” and a liberal. She has previously equated Tea Party conservatives with jihadists.

http://dailycaller.com/2016/06/17/fact-checking-snopes-websites-political-fact-checker-is-just-a-failed-liberal-blogger/


Snopes previously tried to “debunk” claims that the New York Times had colluded with Clinton’s campaign by warning them in advance about potentially negative stories that were about to be published, despite Wikileaks emails proving this to be true on two separate occasions.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2016/10/14/new-york-times-warns-clinton-campaign/
https://foia.state.gov/searchapp/DOCUMENTS/AugSept2016/F-2012-20462/DOC_0C05572024/C05572024.pdf


In December 2016, an investigative report revealed how Snopes was accused of using company money to pay for prostitutes.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4042194/Facebook-fact-checker-arbitrate-fake-news-accused-defrauding-website-pay-prostitutes-staff-includes-escort-porn-star-Vice-Vixen-domme.html


Spurtacular is correct in his assessment that Snopes was just a tool for the DNC. Snopes has been the "official" debunker for the Clinton Cartel since it has evolved from just a myth buster operation.
where in that snopes link did they debunk that the NYT warned them in advance of storylines? what specifically is inaccurate about that snopes article?

[ElNono]

Why posters keep attacking Snopes' staff and not it's content?

Like take that link:
https://www.snopes.com/news/2016/10/14/new-york-times-warns-clinton-campaign/

They reached out to all parties, asked questions, sourced the material, the only one that didn't respond back was the one making the claim.

What's wrong with it? How would you want it reported otherwise?

[ElNono]

CIA frontPERIOD

[spurraider21]

Why posters keep attacking Snopes' staff and not it's content?

Like take that link:
https://www.snopes.com/news/2016/10/14/new-york-times-warns-clinton-campaign/

They reached out to all parties, asked questions, sourced the material, the only one that didn't respond back was the one making the claim.

What's wrong with it? How would you want it reported otherwise?
bro stop being a bluepill sheep. you're being manipulated

[pgardn]

bro stop being a bluepill sheep. you're being manipulated

Add to that, Chris thinks the cult of science is after us.

[spurraider21]

Add to that, Chris thinks the cult of science is after us.
dude's too ashamed to tell me what shape he thinks the earth is

[DarrinS]

/just end thread, tbh

[Spurtacular]

This whole thread seems to want to sow distrust of Snopes based on the claim they're a CIA front. The problem is that there's no evidence to substantiate it.

I'm not going to ask you to provide that evidence, it's not your claim. But you evidently seem to think there's some validity to it, and I'm asking what makes you think so?

I believe that the CIA is a sanctioned criminal organization. With that, they need to perpetually put forth PR that they and their cohorts are the good guys; and in that vain, damage control that can be funneled into a mainstream capacity is invaluable. I haven't made the claim, but I'd say I believe it's more likely than unlikely that snopes is aiding the CIA.