Brad Stevens <3

[BatManu20]

Best coach in the league and it’s not even close imo.

Makes all the right decisions at the right time and in the right situations. His brilliant coaching was on full display tonight (and the entire payoffs so far, really). Lineups, out-of-bounds plays, defensive adjustments, smart timeouts, etc. Has this Boston team, without their two best players, and a bunch of unseasoned Rookies and young players, on the verge of sweeping the red-hot 76ers tocreach the ECF. Nothing short of genius tbh. Future HOFer imo.


Make sure he’s a part of the Kawhi trade, tbh.




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[BatManu20]

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[SuperCam]

give him Tim and Tony for 20 years and he ends up with 8 rings minimum tbh.

[Kawhitstorm]

give him Tim and Manu for 20 years and he ends up with 8 rings minimum tbh.


FIFY

[TheGreatYacht]

His out of timeout plays and adjustments are easily the best I've ever seen. No one even comes close. Meanwhile we fucking call ISO's for Manu or Kawhi and pray to candles that it goes in.

You can really tell Brett Brown is a Pop student this series. I had enough in Game 2 when he gave up a 20pt lead in under 2 minutes and didn't do shit about it. Reminds me of a certain someone when Kawhi's ankle gave up in Golden State.

[BatManu20]

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[TheGreatYacht]

Some muppet will come in and bump this when Lebron inevitably takes out this team led by a rookie in the WCF, but the point still stands. He doesn't lose a series to Lebron with Duncan, Kawhi, Parker, and Diaw.

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[tholdren]

Nba failing. They prd the hell out of 76ers talent. Now the nobody celtics are proving there is no talent. So to deflect they prop stevens. Get with it

[BatManu20]

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[daslicer]

Bret Brown had a Pop like blunder in this game when he had Covington guard Hortford.

[BatManu20]

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[BatManu20]

Usually hate Cow-turd but he hits the nail on the head here.


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[TheGreatYacht]

pop a below average ingame coach and all time poop eater in single play situations. where he is goat is series adjustments and maintaining success over years while accomodating systems to players strengths
If by series adjustments, you mean finally playing guys that were undeservingly in the dog house once the Spurs are down 30 points in an elimination game... then yes. He is the goat at that.

Also, the last statement couldn't be more false. Aldridge and Green would like a word with you.

[BatManu20]

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[dbestpro]

When your team plays defense you don't have to worry about matching up against small ball.

[spursistan]

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I respect Voulagris opinion, but he is getting a little too carried away here..Completely knee-jerk, prisoner of the moment statement..

PS. Stevens has been his man crush for awhile..So I get it..

[RD2191]

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I respect Voulagris opinion, but he is getting a little too carried away here..Completely knee-jerk, prisoner of the moment statement..

PS. Stevens has been his man crush for awhile..So I get it..

Tbh. Also Stevens is coaching against shitty Eastern conference competition. He's a good coach but I wouldn't say he's great just yet.

[Clipper Nation]

Usually hate Cow-turd but he hits the nail on the head here.


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Stevens > Belichick. He wins without cheating.

[paperboy77]

Maybe, but he's human so he would probably be full of himself and screw it up like Pop. Also, he has good players who are executing.

[ThaBigFundamental21]

Oh here we go...

[cool cat]

He's good, but this is a young inexperienced 76's team.

[Chinook]

He's definitely the best acquisition Ainge has made since KG. With even a normal coach, the Celtics look mediocre, and the Brooklyn deal is more a curiosity.

[TheGreatYacht]

aldridge coming off his best year as a two way player

pops system (beautiful game) invented the LDN we remember and cherish
Aldridge is coming off his best year because he told Pop to his face that his trash system was affecting his game, and Pop agreed with him. The LMA we saw this year was Portland LMA.

I'm the #1 Green hater, but this slow antiquated system does him no help. The beautiful game will be 5 years old once the season starts. It was half a decade ago.

[ElNono]

Overrated, tbh... product of... hold on, let me look at the Celtics roster, brb

[tholdren]

Tbh. Also Stevens is coaching against shitty Eastern conference competition. He's a good coach but I wouldn't say he's great just yet.

Wtf win 1 ring first. Stupid media with their shit takes. The nba is full of overrated bums, which is why celtics coach now gets headlines

[tholdren]

Usually hate Cow-turd but he hits the nail on the head here.


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Hes a huge simmons fan. Since simmons cant lead team over scrubs like shane larkin, cowherd has to deflect his original shit take to outlandish levels..

Now if 6ers win hes told everyone how great simmons is, if celtics win hes called brad a great coach. ITS MARKETINGwhy are you all so dense?

[daslicer]

Tbh. Also Stevens is coaching against shitty Eastern conference competition. He's a good coach but I wouldn't say he's great just yet.

This I like Stevens but let's see what he can do when his team is healthy next year. It's harder to go from being good to being a championship team in this league. I think Stevens can make that leap but lets wait and see.

[BatManu20]

Posted this the other day. Belongs in here.



1. Stevens
2. Carlisle
3. Quin
4. Pop
5. Spoelstra


That’s my Top-5 right now. I almost feel dirty not putting Pop in my top 3, considering we just had an almost 50-win season with the least-talented roster of any playoff team (except maaybe Miami), but his stubbornness and head-scratching lineup choices in critical moments put him at #4 on my list.

Brad Stevens is still number one for me. Best coach in the League imo and I think he will go down as an all-time great one before it’s all said and done. Carlisle is still a fantastic coach who just has literally no talent down in Dallas besides Dennis Smith Jr. And Quinn Snyder has been phenomenal all season long, but is really now just getting the credit he deserves. Spoelstra has been a really good coach the past 2 seasons since Lebron left and is making the most of that poorly constructed Miami Heat roster that also employs the team cancer that is Hassan Whiteside.

*Dwayne Casey will likely win COTY and deservedly so, as he’s a very good coach. But his lack of in-game adjustments, combined with the consistent choking of his teams, keeps him out of my top 5.

[Snaq O'Meal]

:pop: “Brad needs to get over himself first.”

[Play Boban]

Posted this the other day. Belongs in here.
White supremicist top 5 tbh........ :wakeup

[BatManu20]

White supremicist top 5 tbh........ :wakeup

Spoelstra a white supremacist... lol. Show me a black coach who’s better than any of those 4 right now and I’ll gladly replace one.

[Play Boban]

Spoelstra a white supremacist... lol. Show me a black coach who’s better than any of those 4 right now and I’ll gladly replace one.
Doc Rivers tbh. Mark Jackson. David Fitzdale. Byron Scott. Dwayne Casey.

[Clipper Nation]

Doc Rivers tbh. Mark Jackson. David Fitzdale. Byron Scott. Dwayne Casey.
:lmao

[BD24]

Doc Rivers tbh. Mark Jackson. David Fitzdale. Byron Scott. Dwayne Casey.
Is this a list of the 5 worst coaches in the league?

[Play Boban]

Is this a list of the 5 worst coaches in the league?

No, but I can see how a white supremacist could see it that way tbh.

[Play Boban]

And we wonder why a brother can't get ahead in this league. Maybe because scrubs like Brad Stevens who've never won anything get propped up like he's God's gift to humanity. Same goes for Poop and Carlisle, who are coasting off of past success from being carrier to their titles kicking and screaming by superstars. And Video Coordinator doesn't even coach. He's LeBron's lapdog. What's Quinn done so far besides win one playoff series against a scrub OK3 tbh?

[BD24]

Boban with the trolling bads per par.

Go back to the drawing board and work on some new material faggot. Your current shticks are shit.

[BatManu20]

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[rjv]

stevens has been great but i do want to see how he 'performs' against the west should boston get to the finals. to date, there can still be an argument made that much of the celtics success has been a result of the advantage of being in the sub-par east.

[Clipper Nation]

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:lol As if it was ever Kyrie's team and not Stevens' to begin with.

[cd98]

I like Stevens and I think he is a good coach, but can we wait until he wins a title before we start comparing him to all-time greats. Belichick isn't great because he wins a lot of regular season games with a bunch of late round draft picks and cast offs.

[TheGreatYacht]

Best coach in the league, and its honestly not even close. No disrespect to Snyder...

[BackHome]

Let’s see how good he is if his team gets to play the Golden Showers.

[spurraider21]

he's a really good coach, and the best in the league right now in terms of system, x's and o's, and even situational coaching.

but boston still has one of the better rosters in the league, and they're only going to be getting better as tatum/brown grow, hayward returns, and they cash in on their future draft picks (and if smart, trade kyrie for a better fit). stevens has a lot to work with

[TheGreatYacht]

Let’s see how good he is if his team gets to play the Golden Showers.
Hopefully he does better than 1-8 against them if they play next year as well....

[BackHome]

Let’s see how good he is if his team gets to play the Golden Showers.

[SupremeGuy]

Doc Rivers tbh. Mark Jackson. David Fitzdale. Byron Scott. Dwayne Casey.Holy shit. Dude trolling only works when you don't make it obvious. :lol

[ducks]

boston had lots of talent
then injuries but had high picks that had time to develop
he is no doubt a great coach he has players believing they can win without their 2 stars.

pop could not get spurs to believe they could win without leonard

[ducks]

Let’s see how good he is if his team gets to play the Golden Showers.

yeah lets see a coach coach against a team that has 4 allstars in the crowed west all star game
if he struggles against a them he fucking sucks

[weebo]

this guy will be coaching high school in a couple of years :lol

[TD 21]

:lmao At the obsession with the new golden boy. People just did this with Pop for the last half decade, only to finally come to the realization that the secret sauce wasn't his magical "system", but the personnel.


Stevens is as good as I've seen with ATO's, but Ainge deserves far more of the credit for constructing a roster perfectly suited to today's NBA. Coaching them is mostly straightforward. He doesn't have to make the types of difficult rotational, match-up and schematic decisions that most coaches do . . .

1. They have no defensive liability (lead footed big or midget guard) playing an integral role, which means they can effectively switch and make life difficult for the best players, while sending minimal help and mostly staying out of rotations.
2. They have no offensive liability (a non rim rolling center that can't dribble or pass and can't/won't shoot), which means they offer no safe hiding place for defensive liabilities and can effectively attack mismatches across the board.
3. Beyond their fit, they have a high IQ and competiveness.

You're naïve at best and delusional at worst, if you think the likes of Lue, Casey, etc., wouldn't have the Celtics in the same position.

[ducks]

steven problem is going to be keeping everyone happy in a few years only one ball
and making them hungry
kerr had trouble this year with gs

[spurraider21]

:lmao At the obsession with the new golden boy. People just did this with Pop for the last half decade, only to finally come to the realization that the secret sauce wasn't his magical "system", but the personnel.


Stevens is as good as I've seen with ATO's, but Ainge deserves far more of the credit for constructing a roster perfectly suited to today's NBA. Coaching them is mostly straightforward. He doesn't have to make the types of difficult rotational, match-up and schematic decisions that most coaches do . . .

1. They have no defensive liability (lead footed big or midget guard) playing an integral role, which means they can effectively switch and make life difficult for the best players, while sending minimal help and mostly staying out of rotations.
2. They have no offensive liability (a non rim rolling center that can't dribble or pass and can't/won't shoot), which means they offer no safe hiding place for defensive liabilities and can effectively attack mismatches across the board.
3. Beyond their fit, they have a high IQ and competiveness.

You're naïve at best and delusional at worst, if you think the likes of Lue, Casey, etc., wouldn't have the Celtics in the same position.




they were the #1 seed a season ago, too.

and they didn't have jayson tatum. jaylen brown had no jumper. they leaned heavily on isaiah thomas, jae crowder, and avery bradley

[TD 21]

For all the hipster, stat geek, Lowe disciples/wannabes, who worship at the alter of the so called innovative, progressive teams, the league has become largely homogenized and gone backwards in a sense: (perceived) mismatch basketball is in vogue again. Cavaliers, Celtics, Rockets and to a lesser extent Warriors, all play seek and destroy relentlessly.

Once they get the switch, which most teams willingly concede even without enough suited personnel, help inevitably has to come after the superstar or star has dusted a helpless defender (damn near anything goes for the offensive player, but the defender can't so much as breathe on them) in space or is about to bully them on the block.

That's basically the whole game in a nutshell again. Funny how Jackson was antiquated for doing this and Lue (who pulled all the right strings vs the Raptors and coaches the most powerful person in the sport; a player who'd run the offense how he sees fit no matter the coach) is regularly criticized for his supposed lack of an offensive system, yet the others are dubbed geniuses for doing the same thing.



they were the #1 seed a season ago, too.

and they didn't have jayson tatum. jaylen brown had no jumper. they leaned heavily on isaiah thomas, jae crowder, and avery bradley

And they were subsequently exposed, the same way the 60 win, '15 Hawks were and 59 win, '18 Raptors were.

[Play Boban]

Holy shit. Dude trolling only works when you don't make it obvious. :lol
You’re a hater. I support black coaches unlike most racists on this forum.

[SAGirl]

:lmao At the obsession with the new golden boy. People just did this with Pop for the last half decade, only to finally come to the realization that the secret sauce wasn't his magical "system", but the personnel.


Stevens is as good as I've seen with ATO's, but Ainge deserves far more of the credit for constructing a roster perfectly suited to today's NBA. Coaching them is mostly straightforward. He doesn't have to make the types of difficult rotational, match-up and schematic decisions that most coaches do . . .

1. They have no defensive liability (lead footed big or midget guard) playing an integral role, which means they can effectively switch and make life difficult for the best players, while sending minimal help and mostly staying out of rotations.
2. They have no offensive liability (a non rim rolling center that can't dribble or pass and can't/won't shoot), which means they offer no safe hiding place for defensive liabilities and can effectively attack mismatches across the board.
3. Beyond their fit, they have a high IQ and competiveness.

You're naïve at best and delusional at worst, if you think the likes of Lue, Casey, etc., wouldn't have the Celtics in the same position.




agree... though I have stayed out of it bc I really admire Stevens too.
But obviously he has lottery talent well selected... that team is really talented and developing.

[cd98]

I actually think Boston D makes them the only interesting match up with GSW. Rockets clearly not good enough. They can’t play much better and GSW yawning to a win.

[TheGreatYacht]

Best coach in the league and it really isn't close. Win or lose.

Terry Rozier would be warming Fatty, Tony, G-League, and Delonte's seats if he was a Spur.

[BatManu20]

^ What he said.

[BatManu20]

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[Mugen]

Yeah, definitely the best coach in the league. Pop (understandably so) hasn't really given much of a fuck since 2014 and has been thoroughly outcoached by the likes of Doc Rivers and Billy Donovan.

[Clipper Nation]

Greatest coach of all time. Replace Poop with Stevens and Duncan has more rings and a couple repeats on his resume.

[NASpurs]

Best coach in the league and it really isn't close. Win or lose.

Terry Rozier would be warming Fatty, Tony, G-League, and Delonte's seats if he was a Spur.

Playing your best players and not giving a shit how much time they've served in this league; what a concept. It's not the fucking military.

[cd98]

Tbh, Spurs team from this year had a shot to make NBA Finals from East. No shot in the West playing GSW in the first round.

[TheGreatYacht]

Tbh, Spurs team from this year had a shot to make NBA Finals from East. No shot in the West playing GSW in the first round.
Spurs don't make it past the Sixers. Much less the Cavs with Fathead guarding Lebron...

[cd98]

Spurs don't make it past the Sixers. Much less the Cavs with Fathead guarding Lebron...

What? We destroyed LeBron twice this year and split with Boston. We took a game from GSW in the playoffs, which is probably best case scenario for Boston or Cavs. East is weak. Stevens is a good coach, but he’s not beating Jordan’s Bulls team, he’s beating the worst team LeBron has been on since 2008.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Ainge should get some of the credit for assembling some great pieces. Boston’s easily the best team in the league 1-12. Without Kyrie and GH they won’t touch the Warriors, but that’s a credible group of talent. Great mix of youth and veterans, and a lot of guys who can play in today’s style NBA. Reminds me of what the Spurs used to have.

[cd98]

Ainge should get some of the credit for assembling some great pieces. Boston’s easily the best team in the league 1-12. Without Kyrie and GH they won’t touch the Warriors, but that’s a credible group of talent. Great mix of youth and veterans, and a lot of guys who can play in today’s style NBA. Reminds me of what the Spurs used to have.

True, but Ainge also came close to doing some dumb things, like offering the Heat all those draft picks for Winslow. The Heat saved him from himself thereby extending his legacy.

[TheRemix]

Best coach in the league and it really isn't close. Win or lose.

Terry Rozier would be warming Fatty, Tony, G-League, and Delonte's seats if he was a Spur.

Fucking truth nuke...

[BatManu20]

One win away from the NBA Finals without their two best players. Wild.


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[tholdren]

Nba failing. They prd the hell out of 76ers talent. Now the nobody celtics are proving there is no talent. So to deflect they prop stevens. Get with it

Now stevens or lebron..... arent any of you smart enough to figure this out?

[Arcadian]

Greatest coach of all time. Replace Poop with Stevens and Duncan has more rings and a couple repeats on his resume.

Just to clarify, are you predicting that he will be the greatest coach of all time (or hypothetically would be if he had a Tim Duncan), or that he already is based on his current body of work?

[TimDunkem]

Playing your best players and not giving a shit how much time they've served in this league; what a concept. It's not the fucking military.
This x10000

[Play Boban]

We would’ve won the title this year if Stevens was head coach tbh.

[Clipper Nation]

Tbh, Spurs team from this year had a shot to make NBA Finals from East.

:lol I know all the vanilla fans love to overrate the crap out of every West team not named the Warriors, but let's be real - the Spurs without Kawhi would have no chance to make the Finals in any conference you put them in.

[spursistan]

The "GOAT Coach" can't buy a road win against this mediocre Cavs team. Even Nate McMillan did it.

Slow your roll :lol

[Spurs da champs]

The "GOAT Coach" can't buy a road win against this mediocre Cavs team. Even Nate McMillan did it.

Slow your roll :lol

Real talk.

[Clipper Nation]

The "GOAT Coach" can't buy a road win against this mediocre Cavs team. Even Nate McMillan did it.

Slow your roll :lol
Poop would have lost to the Bucks and then said it was because the players didn't "get over themselves." He'd also have benched Tatum and Brown outside of garbage time because "these playoffs aren't for them."

[pgardn]

Sorry.

The East is so sorry can’t qualify.
People think the Celtics are winning with a mediocre team?
Lebron is winning with a bad team AND coach.

[cd98]

Lol he’s better than Spurs big 3. Spurs actually beat LeBron with two all stars on his team.

[spursistan]

"GOAT Coach" :lmao..

Again slow your roll...Horribly coached game 7 by Stevens..

[davidbowie]

GOAT POP WOULD NEVER LET THIS HAPPEN TO HIS TEAM

HILARIOUS :rollin

[Texas_Ranger]

until he can win a one man team he can't be a goat.

[K...]

lmao

[Arcadian]

:lol

[TimDunkem]

GOAT POP WOULD NEVER LET THIS HAPPEN TO HIS TEAM

HILARIOUS :rollin

Game 6 and 7, 2013.

[K...]

Game 6 and 7, 2013.

spurs didn't really blow those games, they blowed key possesions. This was an abortion of a closeout game by the higher seed. Spurs lost on the road

[TheGreatYacht]

Game 6 and 7, 2013.
Poop suckers keep pretending that coaching performance never happened. Hilarious.

[TheGreatYacht]

Some muppet will come in and bump this when Lebron inevitably takes out this team led by a rookie in the WCF, but the point still stands. He doesn't lose a series to Lebron with Duncan, Kawhi, Parker, and Diaw.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Convince me otherwise, dykes.

[BatManu20]

A.) Never called him the GOAT coach. Said he's the best coach in the league, which he is, imo.

B.) Stevens didn't cause his team to shoot 7/40 from beyond the arc tonight.. many of which were great looks. His team simply didn't show up tonight under tight circumstances (not surprising at all for a young team in a game of this magnitude).

C). LeBron's greatness was too much. Nothing to be ashamed of. He's the 2nd greatest player ever at worst, and Boston was missing their 2 best players this series, and they still pushed it 7 games, in large part due to great coaching.

[TimDunkem]

spurs didn't really blow those games, they blowed key possesions. This was an abortion of a closeout game by the higher seed. Spurs lost on the road

The question is whether Pop could have blown it. He has, and even the man himself has said as much.

[Ice009]

Game 6 and 7, 2013.

The Spurs had game 6 and the Championship, but they threw it away. It wasn't taken from them due to Miami outplaying them, and they weren't out-coached either. Pop did make some very bad decisions in the 4th quarter, but he was't out-coached as they still had it won, but just fucked it all up with missed free throws, rebounds etc. in those last 27 seconds.

[pgardn]

Sorry.

The East is so sorry can’t qualify.
People think the Celtics are winning with a mediocre team?
Lebron is winning with a bad team AND coach.

I said this.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

You’re a hater. I support black coaches unlike most racists on this forum.

Reverse racist.

[tholdren]

Reverse racist.

Racism is racism. Stop with the ignorant condoning of redundant speak

[tholdren]

Racism is:
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior

[tholdren]

Reverse racist.

How about reverse sexism, is that something you say, too?

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Racism is:
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior

Thanks for that. What do you call someone like Play Boban who troll posts every black coach in the league as being better than the rest...just a troll I suppose. Or ignorant, as you like to say?

Inferiority complex maybe? My guess would be you have the definition for that tattooed on your calf.

[tholdren]

Thanks for that. What do you call someone like Play Boban who troll posts every black coach in the league as being better than the rest...just a troll I suppose. Or ignorant, as you like to say?

Inferiority complex maybe? My guess would be you have the definition for that tattooed on your calf.

You mad bc you are redundant? Duh..... reverse racism. Read a book

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

You mad bc you are redundant? Duh..... reverse racism. Read a book


Why are old people so negative? You seem bitter.

[RD2191]

Bum coach can't win on the road :lol

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Bum coach can't win on the road :lol

Or at home for a game 7....sadly.

[Play Boban]

Reverse racist.
:cry

[spursistan]

Bump..

Celtics: 43-28
Spurs: 42-29 (Dejounte out for the year and Derrick missing 15 games).

I gotta admit I was carried way amidst last spring wankest over Brad Stevens..

That's a pretty underwhelming coaching job considering the majority of NBA media had already crowned him over Pop...

Even the most skeptics/haters of Today's Pop on ST would have him coaching that Celtics roster to 57-60 wins in the East..

[RD2191]

Tbh. Also Stevens is coaching against shitty Eastern conference competition. He's a good coach but I wouldn't say he's great just yet.

:wakeup

[Mr. Body]

Stevens is a very good coach. His team is badly constructed, too many redundant parts, and it suffers from the shit personality of Kyrie Irving, whom I can't imagine Poo would put up with for a second. They do play in the East where they are gifted much weaker teams in general.

Part of Pop's greatness happens off the court in creating an utter 'buy in' from his players. He's also remarkable in fashioning his offenses to suit his players. I know of no other coach nearly as good as him across the board.

[spursistan]

Stevens is a very good coach. His team is badly constructed, too many redundant parts, and it suffers from the shit personality of Kyrie Irving, whom I can't imagine Poo would put up with for a second. They do play in the East where they are gifted much weaker teams in general.

Part of Pop's greatness happens off the court in creating an utter 'buy in' from his players. He's also remarkable in fashioning his offenses to suit his players. I know of no other coach nearly as good as him across the board.

What can we say of the Spurs, then?

Let's just call for what it is: Stevens has done a lousy job this year..Coaching stars/egos is part of his profession and it could be said that he's failing that test so far..

That Celtic roster is easily 55-60 win team and Top 2 seed in the East. He is gonna barely squeak out 50 wins this season with mostly a clean health bill..

[R. DeMurre]

Losing Haywood five minutes into his first game was a pretty big blow. I'm anxious to see if he returns to form next year since he hasn't been nearly 100% most of this season. I don't think he's a max player, but I think he was the best of the second tier SFs.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Stevens is a very good coach. His team is badly constructed, too many redundant parts


You can blame that on Danny Ainge. He believes his own press, and doesn't want to part with any player that he's been responsible for signing. And he doesn't want to make a trade unless he feels like he's made the other team bleed.

[R. DeMurre]

The interesting argument that comes out of this is the value of tanking... Boston wasn't as bad as Philly, but either way they're both neck & neck with the Spurs now, who didn't resort to that option.

[Mr. Body]

What can we say of the Spurs, then?

Let's just call for what it is: Stevens has done a lousy job this year..Coaching stars/egos is part of his profession and it could be said that he's failing that test so far..

That Celtic roster is easily 55-60 win team and Top 2 seed in the East. He is gonna barely squeak out 50 wins this season with mostly a clean health bill..

Spurs are much better constructed than the Celtics, whose roster is badly overrated. Too many players do the same things, anyway. They just get hyped to hell. The Spurs have ball-handlers, a significant presence inside, a good backup, and a cluster of outside shooters. There's no way this Boston team is close to a 60 win team. You're just eating hype.

[Mr. Body]

You can blame that on Danny Ainge. He believes his own press, and doesn't want to part with any player that he's been responsible for signing. And he doesn't want to make a trade unless he feels like he's made the other team bleed.

Yeah, I think he fucked up a good situation. Horford is declining -- who replaces him? Kyrie is gone because Boston is a shitty place to live for a lot of people. Ainge fucked over IT and everyone remembers. His young players are good but overhyped. A lot of people were crowing at how they screwed Brooklyn but good. While that might be true, I like Brooklyn much better right now. DLo may even soon be better than anyone on Boston's roster, minus the departing Kyrie.

[Coach X]

Brad Stevens is a great coach but there is a big difference between coaching a zero-pressured talented young team and coaching an actual NBA contender with all-stars, big contracts, etc.

Coaching is not only about Xs and Os and managing personnel, dealing with huge egoes, entourages, media, expectations etc. at a NBA contention level is really hard. That's when the spursian micro-universe happens to be so benefitial por the team. That's when words like culture, program and system have a real meaning.

Is not that easy to do what Gregg Popovich does.

[SuperCam]

Brad Stevens is a great coach but there is a big difference between coaching a zero-pressured talented young team and coaching an actual NBA contender with all-stars, big contracts, etc.

Coaching is not only about Xs and Os and managing personnel, dealing with huge egoes, entourages, media, expectations etc. at a NBA contention level is really hard. That's when the spursian micro-universe happens to be so benefitial por the team. That's when words like culture, program and system have a real meaning.

Is not that easy to do what Gregg Popovich does.

the fuck are you talking about? Poop's system worked because he had the most unselfish, best leader of all time in Tim Duncan for all 5 of his championships, as well as a premier HOF point guard in Parker who played within the system when he could have put up better stats elsewhere.

the second tim and tony left and were replaced by typical NBA star divas like LMA and Defrozan, the team has been a middling 6-8 seed non-contender with no hope of winning a title and numerous players wanting to be traded and talking trash on the way out :lol

[SuperCam]

Yeah, I think he fucked up a good situation. Horford is declining -- who replaces him? Kyrie is gone because Boston is a shitty place to live for a lot of people. Ainge fucked over IT and everyone remembers. His young players are good but overhyped. A lot of people were crowing at how they screwed Brooklyn but good. While that might be true, I like Brooklyn much better right now. DLo may even soon be better than anyone on Boston's roster, minus the departing Kyrie.

continuing to push this anti killa' kyrie schtick upstairs when he's going to make all nba 2nd team and MAGA white hayward has been an atrocity getting affirmative action minutes :lmao

[R. DeMurre]

Yeah, I think he fucked up a good situation. Horford is declining -- who replaces him? Kyrie is gone because Boston is a shitty place to live for a lot of people. Ainge fucked over IT and everyone remembers. His young players are good but overhyped. A lot of people were crowing at how they screwed Brooklyn but good. While that might be true, I like Brooklyn much better right now. DLo may even soon be better than anyone on Boston's roster, minus the departing Kyrie.


I like Brooklyn now too, and they might actually be a more attractive landing place for free agents than either the Celts or the Knicks at this point.

A lot of things happened in Boston, especially with Kyrie not always getting along with the younger core. I think Kyrie is a #2 guy, not a #1 guy, and he tried to be the wiser older statesman of the team, which I think they just weren't buying. He himself still has some maturing to do (as he has admitted in his apologetic call to LeBron), and becoming the world's most famous flat earth theorist probably didn't help either. Can anyone imagine Tim Duncan actually questioning whether the Earth is a globe or a shelf? :lol

[R. DeMurre]

Brad Stevens is a great coach but there is a big difference between coaching a zero-pressured talented young team and coaching an actual NBA contender with all-stars, big contracts, etc.

Coaching is not only about Xs and Os and managing personnel, dealing with huge egoes, entourages, media, expectations etc. at a NBA contention level is really hard. That's when the spursian micro-universe happens to be so benefitial por the team. That's when words like culture, program and system have a real meaning.


Is not that easy to do what Gregg Popovich does.

:bobo
Exactly what casual fans don't get.

[GreekSpursfan]

Even if we get bounced out in the first round this would still be one of Pop's best coaching jobs. Having to coach perennial losers with no defensive prowess(some of them) and having to start two unproven, inexperienced players is one of the hardest coaching jobs out there. He's still the G.O.A.T.

[DPG21920]

Boston isn’t poorly constructed either. They may have redundancy and too much depth for their own good, but they were built well rounded. Hayward injury and figuring out the rotation is the issue.

[313]

continuing to push this anti killa' kyrie schtick upstairs when he's going to make all nba 2nd team and MAGA white hayward has been an atrocity getting affirmative action minutes :lmao:lmao

[Mr. Body]

Boston isn’t poorly constructed either. They may have redundancy and too much depth for their own good, but they were built well rounded. Hayward injury and figuring out the rotation is the issue.

Too much redundancy is exactly what poorly constructed means. It leads to chemistry issues, too, when players feel like they should be starting. I don't see the depth you're talking about.

[Mr. Body]

Brad Stevens is in an odd spot. He left college because he hated the underhanded and corrupt nature of college recruiting. But in the pros he can't get guys to put their egos aside for a team concept.

[313]

max contract Hayward single handily dragging the celtics to the cellar :lol

[ZeusWillJudge]

Boston isn’t poorly constructed either. They may have redundancy and too much depth for their own good, but they were built well rounded. Hayward injury and figuring out the rotation is the issue.


Boston had more than enough talent. I think Ainge passed on some trade opportunities because he always has to feel like he's drawn blood.

[R. DeMurre]

Boston isn’t poorly constructed either. They may have redundancy and too much depth for their own good, but they were built well rounded. Hayward injury and figuring out the rotation is the issue.


Yeah, I think if Hayward doesn't get hurt and puts up an efficient 18/4/4, Jaylen Brown and Marcus become bench guys and everything looks ok.

[phxspurfan]

We'll take Hayward if they don't want him

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

We'll take Hayward if they don't want him

Ew! No. Have you seen his contract?

[GusT15]

We'll take Hayward if they don't want him

You're thinking Hayward is gonna pull a Paul George and go back to being the player he was.

And maybe he does just that but would you take the gamble for 32 millions per till 2021?

[exstatic]

Losing Haywood five minutes into his first game was a pretty big blow. I'm anxious to see if he returns to form next year since he hasn't been nearly 100% most of this season. I don't think he's a max player, but I think he was the best of the second tier SFs.

Wrong year. Hayward has been there the whole season. He was out LAST season. That's actually one of the problems. Hayward is back, but the young wings don't want to go back to limited minutes.

[R. DeMurre]

Wrong year. Hayward has been there the whole season. He was out LAST season. That's actually one of the problems. Hayward is back, but the young wings don't want to go back to limited minutes.

Yeah, I know it was last season, but I just don't think this year's version of Hayward is the same player Boston signed... I'm wondering if he has a Paul George-like 2nd year bounce back season next year.

[Down Under]

It's Kyrie, it's gotta be. He's their best player, but their biggest ballstopper. It's becomes too predictable with him dominating the ball so much.

[Mr. Body]

It's Kyrie, it's gotta be. He's their best player, but their biggest ballstopper. It's becomes too predictable with him dominating the ball so much.

He's not even good that often. He can split a game open, but only once in a while. A good secondary star, like... um... when he was a good secondary star.

[YGWHI]

Hayward pre-injury wasn't even a top 15 player in the league. He was extremely overrated.

[Mr. Body]

Hayward pre-injury wasn't even a top 15 player in the league. He was extremely overrated.

He's a very good third star, a glue guy who can do everything pretty well. At this salary, even when healthy he wasn't worth it.

[YGWHI]

He's a very good third star, a glue guy who can do everything pretty well. At this salary, even when healthy he wasn't worth it.
Agree on this.

[Mr. Body]

Agree on this.

Ainge wanted a white dude to appeal to all the Boston bigots.

[Maddog]

Just think- DDR and Hayward are less a year difference in age.
Counting this season-
Hayward is owed 63 million
DDR is owed 55 million

[Hoops Czar]

Just think- DDR and Hayward are less a year difference in age.
Counting this season-
Hayward is owed 63 million
DDR is owed 55 million
Hayward was coming off a serious injury. What's DDR's excuse?

[exstatic]

Hayward was coming off a serious injury. What's DDR's excuse?

For what? Being a far better player than Hayward?

[Hoops Czar]

Hayward pre-injury wasn't even a top 15 player in the league. He was extremely overrated.
Hayward is actually playing slightly better than their two untouchables.... Brown, who's playing like a bonefide scrub and Tatum. Let that sink in for a second.

[Hoops Czar]

For what? Being a far better player than Hayward?
You must be using the eye test because Statistically speaking, it's barely negligible. Neither will be the reason their respective teams win playoff games.

[Collins21]

You must be using the eye test because Statistically speaking, it's barely negligible. Neither will be the reason their respective teams win playoff games.

You're just being dumb as shit now!!! At no point would any franchise choose Hayward over DeRozan. It's obvious you're here to troll because this is just some dumb shit.

[Hoops Czar]

You're just being dumb as shit now!!! At no point would any franchise choose Hayward over DeRozan. It's obvious you're here to troll because this is just some dumb shit.
No. Dumb as shit would be choosing either/or.