Put your money where your mouth is: Who wins, Rockets or Warriors

[AlexJones]

Let's get our names up there

[140]

Doesn't matter who wins. We all lose tbh

[Clipper Nation]

Doesn't matter who wins. We all lose tbh

[LkrFan]

Not the Sp*rs! :lmao

[MultiTroll]

Doesn't matter who wins. We all lose tbh

[Gummi Clutch]

The wing defenders Houston has will be the big difference here. The games they've played I was surprised at how well they managed to shut GS down.

[StrengthAndHonor]

Houston in 7.

[daslicer]

Warriors will win in 5.

[baseline bum]

Golden State in six. I figured if we saw a 70% Curry then Houston would ring while a 90% Curry would lock up a title for the Warriors. Curry looks more 90% than 70%, so while I think it'll be a good series, I'll take Golden State to clinch the title at home.

[Robz4000]

Doesn't matter who wins. We all lose tbh

[Chris Fall]

Isoball v ball movement

Floppers v whiny bitches

Fake tough guys v fake tough guys


Tough call actually. Unlike many, I think Houston does have a chance. Some suggest that iso ball can’t compete with the great ball movement. But I don’t buy that. The iso ball Houston runs is exactly what works with its personnel. And often times it’s what gets their spot up shooters clean looks. I think Capela is huge because his ability to play up on perimeter players on switches is a revelation. I think Ryan Anderson can also play a nice secondary role in this series if they actually decide to use him. But the big thing will be those spot up shooters for Houston. Ariza, Gordon, Tucker, Green, and Anderson if he plays have to shoot well enough when GS defense start shading and collapsing the paint more to help.

Initial gut tells me Golden State in 6. But I’ll go against it with a little Houston bias.

Rox in 7

[spurraider21]

warriors. curry looks plenty healthy, and durant is a more reliable closer than harden/paul (yeah, i'm saying that after paul's performance yesterday)

[Joseph Kony]

This is when we'll finally see GS wake up and bring their A game. Dubs in 5, maybe 6

[Killakobe81]

Golden State in six. I figured if we saw a 70% Curry then Houston would ring while a 90% Curry would lock up a title for the Warriors. Curry looks more 90% than 70%, so while I think it'll be a good series, I'll take Golden State to clinch the title at home.

This pretty much sums it up ...

[Arcadian]

GS has the 2 best players between both teams. That's all you really need to know.

[daslicer]

GS has the 2 best players between both teams. That's all you really need to know.

Agreed I feel that CP3 or Harden will have to be the best player on the court for the Rox to have a chance to win this series.

[dfens]

let's hope it goes the distance and it's filled with injuries. god bless :toast

[phxspurfan]

Agreed I feel that CP3 or Harden will have to be the best player on the court for the Rox to have a chance to win this series.

So Durant has to keel over

[Chris Fall]

GS has the 2 best players between both teams. That's all you really need to know.

Having the best two players isn’t an automatic playoff series win against another really good team. We’ve seen that as recent as the 2011 and 2014 Heat. We saw it with the 2004 Shaq and Kobe. We saw it with 2005 Shaq and Wade.

The better argument is that Golden State arguably has 4 of the best 6 players between the two teams, no disrespect to Clint Capela.

[Fabbs]

This series will be 2 snaps up!
http://www.moviesovertherainbow.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/men-on-film-2.jpg

[StrengthAndHonor]

Its not the popular choice and the odds are stacked against them but I really like Houston's chances here. CP3 just needs to continue to be that offensive safety net and figure out a way to limit Curry's production - a task he's done with success this year. Houston was built systematically from top to bottom to beat GS and If the role players can sink what the Warriors defense can give them, then I see an upset.


One concern- Harden's been playing way below his level in the first 2 rounds. 40% shooting isn't going to cut it. Optimistically, there's no way he'll continue playing at that pace. He's due for an excellent series- at least, that's what you should hope for if you want the Rockets to continue their success. Cherry on top if Eric Gordon decides to join him.


It's going to be a tough series, but I have my money on Houston. They have great defenders (Mbha Moute, Ariza, Tucker) and can match GS' offensive prowess. This isn't your MDA Suns folks, they can play on both ends of the floor.

[Bynumite]

As long as LeBeta doesn't ring :)

[Dex]

I can't believe that it's come to the point where I'm actually hoping for Lebron to win the Finals.

[daslicer]

Having the best two players isn’t an automatic playoff series win against another really good team. We’ve seen that as recent as the 2011 and 2014 Heat. We saw it with the 2004 Shaq and Kobe. We saw it with 2005 Shaq and Wade.

The better argument is that Golden State arguably has 4 of the best 6 players between the two teams, no disrespect to Clint Capela.

In 2011 Lebron just choked in that series. He played way below his capabilities.

In 2014 Kawhi came out of nowhere and played Lebron to a standstill from games 3-5 which was huge. Nobody saw that coming at that time.

In 2004 Kobe sabotaged the Lakers. He even admitted it in an recent interview with Shaq.

In 2005 Heat lost that series due to Wade suffering a strained rib muscle injury that caused him to miss game 6. In game 7 he tried to play through it but was terrible.

All the scenarios you mentioned had fluky things occur that allowed the upsets to happen. Basically the Rox will need something fluky to happen for them to win.

[Chris Fall]

In 2011 Lebron just choked in that series. He played way below his capabilities.

In 2014 Kawhi came out of nowhere and played Lebron to a standstill from games 3-5 which was huge. Nobody saw that coming at that time.

In 2004 Kobe sabotaged the Lakers. He even admitted it in an recent interview with Shaq.

In 2005 Heat lost that series due to Wade suffering a strained rib muscle injury that caused him to miss game 6. In game 7 he tried to play through it but was terrible.

All the scenarios you mentioned had fluky things occur that allowed the upsets to happen. Basically the Rox will need something fluky to happen for them to win.

The reasons don’t matter. The post I quoted was written in a way that suggested an absolute. One team has the two best players.

Regardless of the reason, it’s not a guarantee to win a series. That’s the point. Flukes happen in sports all the time. Bad bounces. Lucky shots. Poor officiating. Injuries. Foul trouble. Ejections. Unexpected heroes and goats. Shit happens. It’s not like it’s never happened. It’s not like it only happened once in a 100 years. I just gave four examples in the last 15 or so years. Having the two best players doesn’t guarantee the win.

[AlexJones]

Gummi Clutch (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=16179) Spurs da champs (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=11814) JohnnyMax (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=34318) They will be shocked when it happens, but we knew, all along, that it would happen.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL1xsXw3N-4

I've got goosebumps

[Arcadian]

Having the best two players isn’t an automatic playoff series win against another really good team. We’ve seen that as recent as the 2011 and 2014 Heat. We saw it with the 2004 Shaq and Kobe. We saw it with 2005 Shaq and Wade.

The better argument is that Golden State arguably has 4 of the best 6 players between the two teams, no disrespect to Clint Capela.

Not automatic, but likely.

[Chris Fall]

Not automatic, but likely.

More fair.

I could argue the next best two players are Harden and Paul (at least as far as production even if you hate the way they play). And while Curry and KD are clearly the best two players, it’s not like a galactic gap between them and Harden and Paul in terms of production. And Houston’s supporting cast knows how to play their roles. I think it’s not as lopsided as others think. But like I said earlier, the depth of talent Golden State has is a better argument than simply suggesting having the best two players is all you need to know.

[dfens]

tbh this is exactly the type of series to show how underrated that picklebreath donkey is tbh

[Raven]

warriors sweep

[spurraider21]

tbh this is exactly the type of series to show how underrated that picklebreath donkey is tbh
woulnd't matter. he could average 20/20/10/3/3 for the series and ST will still shit on him tbh :lol

[Arcadian]

More fair.

I could argue the next best two players are Harden and Paul (at least as far as production even if you hate the way they play). And while Curry and KD are clearly the best two players, it’s not like a galactic gap between them and Harden and Paul in terms of production. And Houston’s supporting cast knows how to play their roles. I think it’s not as lopsided as others think. But like I said earlier, the depth of talent Golden State has is a better argument than simply suggesting having the best two players is all you need to know.

I would say Durant is by far the best player in the series. Curry is just slightly above Harden, and Paul is another tier lower.

I know this board generally views Durant as the second coming of Hitler, but he's simply one of the best all-around players ever.

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

Rooting like hell for Houston, but it’ll be Warriors in 6.

[140]

I would say Durant is by far the best player in the series. Curry is just slightly above Harden, and Paul is another tier lower.

I know this board generally views Durant as the second coming of Hitler, but he's simply one of the best all-around players ever.
I don't think anybody here denies Durants abilities, it's just that he's the biggest faggot to ever grace an NBA court tbh

[Clipper Nation]

Curry is better than Durbeta, tbh.

[lefty]

Silverberg

[BD24]

Probably Warriors sadly. Not sure what goons the Rockets have, but their best chance is getting a goon in there to try and shatter Currys ankle tbh.

[RsxPiimp]

Its not the popular choice and the odds are stacked against them but I really like Houston's chances here. CP3 just needs to continue to be that offensive safety net and figure out a way to limit Curry's production - a task he's done with success this year. Houston was built systematically from top to bottom to beat GS and If the role players can sink what the Warriors defense can give them, then I see an upset.


One concern- Harden's been playing way below his level in the first 2 rounds. 40% shooting isn't going to cut it. Optimistically, there's no way he'll continue playing at that pace. He's due for an excellent series- at least, that's what you should hope for if you want the Rockets to continue their success. Cherry on top if Eric Gordon decides to join him.


It's going to be a tough series, but I have my money on Houston. They have great defenders (Mbha Moute, Ariza, Tucker) and can match GS' offensive prowess. This isn't your MDA Suns folks, they can play on both ends of the floor.
i can roll with this but harden definitely needs to step his game up, like go supernova on them faggy bay area team BUT some things aren’t meant to be and harden playing like a superstar consistently in a series ain’t one of it .

[SAGirl]

I don't really care, but hoping it's GSW... I just don't like Harden's so called brand of basketball, but should GSW lose I would not shed a tear either. win/win

[Arcadian]

I don't think anybody here denies Durants abilities, it's just that he's the biggest faggot to ever grace an NBA court tbh

No, that's precisely the problem: people allow their emotions to cloud their rational judgment in evaluating players. The same shit is happening with Kawhi now.

His faggotry isn't even relevant to this discussion. No amount of faggotry is going to stop him from being the best player in this series.

[TheCultOfPersonality]

Warriors are going over in 5.

[140]

No, that's precisely the problem: people allow their emotions to cloud their rational judgment in evaluating players. The same shit is happening with Kawhi now.

His faggotry isn't even relevant to this discussion. No amount of faggotry is going to stop him from being the best player in this series.
It's a tossup between him and Curry...I don't see people denying that tbh :lol

[Bynumite]

Warriors in 6 :)

[Arcadian]

It's a tossup between him and Curry...I don't see people denying that tbh :lol

Some people have forgotten that size matters in basketball. With other factors held constant, the larger player has the advantage. Durant isn't quite the shooter Curry is, of course, but he's still an excellent shooter and makes a much bigger contribution on the defensive end.

[ElNono]

not hating on the East, tbh, but this is the official NBA finals...

[DMC]

Warriors. There's too much firepower to contend with, too much ball movement, better bench, etc...

Houston will play hard a couple games but somewhere around game 3 the starters will begin to quit and CP3 will pretend to be trying to drag them to the finish line.

It's going to be a chuckfest.

I predict 60 3's a game.

[Caltex2]

Let's get our names up there

Money where my mouth is? Money has germs on it.

Seriously, Rockets in 7 is my heart pick. My real pick is Warriors in 6.

[ambchang]

Despite what I said about CP3 not making Houston better (ie get them over the hump), I want Houston to win.

That said, GSW will win in 5 or 6.

[AlexJones]

Most likely outcomes, according to sharpest sportsbook in the world Pinnacle:

Warriors in 6
Rockets in 7
Warriors in 7
Warriors in 5

[DPG21920]

My guess is Warriors in 6 is most likely, but I think Warriors in 5 is what it ends up.

[DMC]

AlexJones, Chris Fall, Gummi Clutch, JohnnyMax, RD2191, Spurs da champs, StrengthAndHonor

:lmao

[DMC]

Its not the popular choice and the odds are stacked against them but I really like Houston's chances here. CP3 just needs to continue to be that offensive safety net and figure out a way to limit Curry's production - a task he's done with success this year. Houston was built systematically from top to bottom to beat GS and If the role players can sink what the Warriors defense can give them, then I see an upset.


One concern- Harden's been playing way below his level in the first 2 rounds. 40% shooting isn't going to cut it. Optimistically, there's no way he'll continue playing at that pace. He's due for an excellent series- at least, that's what you should hope for if you want the Rockets to continue their success. Cherry on top if Eric Gordon decides to join him.


It's going to be a tough series, but I have my money on Houston. They have great defenders (Mbha Moute, Ariza, Tucker) and can match GS' offensive prowess. This isn't your MDA Suns folks, they can play on both ends of the floor.

Translation: There's more to win by betting the longshot than taking the obvious

[ThaBigFundamental21]

Golden State in 5. 6 if Harden and the Rockettes get the red carpet rolled out to the FT line.

[resistanze]

Harden hasn't even been fantastic so far in these playoffs (against inferior competition). Definitely not enough to make this a series.

[DMC]

I think the dichotomy of Harden and Chris Paul in tight situations will cause problems for Houston. They both need the ball. If Paul came off the bench to run the point while James was sitting, that would be tough to stop.

[AlexJones]

Harden hasn't even been fantastic so far in these playoffs (against inferior competition). Definitely not enough to make this a series.

Pels and Spurs are better than Jazz/Minny??

[resistanze]

Pels and Spurs are better than Jazz/Minny??

No - inferior competition than his upcoming challenge against GSW. If he's shooting 40%/34% 3PT through the first two rounds, he needs to level up twice over to even have a shot against the Warriors.

[Spurtacular]

So many utterly hateable players on both teams; before them, Lebron was the villain.

[Caltex2]

This is the Rockets only chance for the next 3-4 years unless they make some swift trades to stay relevant. CP3 has nowhere to go but down, Clint Capela may be gone because someone is stupid enough to give him a max deal and teams may adjust to the Rockets style. The Warriors seem like they'll stay really good going forward for at least the next 3-5 years. And at least 5 teams out west have nowhere to go but up, especially the Pelicans, Wolves, Lakers and Jazz.

[daslicer]

Most likely outcomes, according to sharpest sportsbook in the world Pinnacle:

Warriors in 6
Rockets in 7
Warriors in 7
Warriors in 5

In other words the only scenario the Rox can win in is in 7 games and the Warriors can will win in all scenarios but won't sweep.

[daslicer]

This is the Rockets only chance for the next 3-4 years unless they make some swift trades to stay relevant. CP3 has nowhere to go but down, Clint Capela may be gone because someone is stupid enough to give him a max deal and teams may adjust to the Rockets style. The Warriors seem like they'll stay really good going forward for at least the next 3-5 years. And at least 5 teams out west have nowhere to go but up, especially the Pelicans, Wolves, Lakers and Jazz.

It looks pretty bleak for the whole entire league. The Warriors are going to win until at least 2021 in my eyes unless Lebron forms another super team somewhere else.

[RsxPiimp]

theres no way this ends in 4-5 games. silber will milk the shit out of this:lol

[spursistan]

OP is about to get destroyed in a bet by his Warriors and and is left pulling all kinda of wishful thinkings before the series :lol..

[gambit1990]

going with rockets... kinda a homer pick since i'm a big cp3 fan.

warriors won't have an answer for capela... but it ultimately comes down to how much of a faggot harden plays like. he plays lackadaisical pretty often. if he plays locked in the whole series then i got the rockets in 6.

[GuerillaBlack]

Houston in 6

Rockets with better depth and a pace that eliminates one of the Warriors' greatest strengths. In a star / player comparison, Harden and KD cancel out. Curry and Paul do for the most part as well. Eric Gordon can match Klay's production. Nick Young can get hot, but so can Gerald Green. Warriors roll out the Hampton 5 and Rockets can still play them well with their starting 5 or even Ryan Anderson at C. Also that takes away rim protection, so Paul, Harden, and Gordon can all take advantage of that.

[Fabbs]

theres no way this ends in 4-5 games. silber will milk the shit out of this:lol
He's already had Phaggot State and CPFraudens end their last series on Tues, May 8th.
Boston - Philly ended the next night on Wed May 9th.

And yet
Boston v Cleveland starts tomorrow Sunday.
Phaggot State vs Houston on Monday.

Essentially two extra days for the homo krews.

[dbestpro]

I say cheer on whoever is leading and you will always be happy.

[Koolaid_Man]

I got $500 on the Dubs ;-)

[spursistan]

CROFL @OP deleting his supposed bet :lmao

[spursistan]

This is the Rockets only chance for the next 3-4 years unless they make some swift trades to stay relevant. CP3 has nowhere to go but down, Clint Capela may be gone because someone is stupid enough to give him a max deal and teams may adjust to the Rockets style. The Warriors seem like they'll stay really good going forward for at least the next 3-5 years. And at least 5 teams out west have nowhere to go but up, especially the Pelicans, Wolves, Lakers and Jazz.
:tu

I'm rooting for Houston out of self-interest. I don't think the Rockets have a dynastic potential with this team, so I don't mind you getting one, which would also eliminate the chance of Lebron signing there :lol..

[MultiTroll]

If they don't win due to Frauden CPchoke, WarriorRef will step in.

Golden Phaggots in 6.

[dfens]

put a bet on a severe injury in this series tbh

http://funnyfilez.funnypart.com/pictures/FunnyPart-com-night_time_prayer.jpg

[Roxsfan]

Rockets in 6 or 7.

[Arcadian]

I say cheer on whoever is leading and you will always be happy.

Fuck that. I always cheer for the underdog or whoever is trailing.

[lebomb]

Is this a trick question?


The Warriors

[LkrFan]

So Durant has to keel over

:lol

[DPG21920]

I just hope it lives up to the hype. I want an epic series.

[benefactor]

All the games are close, but Dubs in 6.

[Darth_Pelican]

If the Rockets lose tonight, it will be a short series.

[spurraider21]

im hoping for a warriors sweep.

i still dislike durant and especially dislike that he decided to tilt the nba by hopping onto a 72 win team... but houston is the most egregious flopping team i've ever seen. i'd rather have a superteam come and go than having flopping become more rewarded.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Rockets in 5

[paperboy77]

Hate rooting for the GS fags but fuck houston and the beard.

[Darth_Pelican]

If the Rockets lose tonight, it will be a short series.

[DPG21920]

going with rockets... kinda a homer pick since i'm a big cp3 fan.

warriors won't have an answer for capela... but it ultimately comes down to how much of a faggot harden plays like. he plays lackadaisical pretty often. if he plays locked in the whole series then i got the rockets in 6.

Clint is not an issue for GS. They defend the PnR better than anyone. GS only “weakness” is an offensive big man like LMA that can get into the post and create on his own and operate from the elbow. GS has to double (like they did with LMA all series).

A roll man like Clint is not going to do much on offense vs GS

[DMC]

im hoping for a warriors sweep.

i still dislike durant and especially dislike that he decided to tilt the nba by hopping onto a 72 win team... but houston is the most egregious flopping team i've ever seen. i'd rather have a superteam come and go than having flopping become more rewarded.

73 wins

[StrengthAndHonor]

Its not the popular choice and the odds are stacked against them but I really like Houston's chances here. CP3 just needs to continue to be that offensive safety net and figure out a way to limit Curry's production - a task he's done with success this year. Houston was built systematically from top to bottom to beat GS and If the role players can sink what the Warriors defense can give them, then I see an upset.


One concern- Harden's been playing way below his level in the first 2 rounds. 40% shooting isn't going to cut it. Optimistically, there's no way he'll continue playing at that pace. He's due for an excellent series- at least, that's what you should hope for if you want the Rockets to continue their success. Cherry on top if Eric Gordon decides to join him.


It's going to be a tough series, but I have my money on Houston. They have great defenders (Mbha Moute, Ariza, Tucker) and can match GS' offensive prowess. This isn't your MDA Suns folks, they can play on both ends of the floor.
My prediction checks out so far. One big surprise is Harden's defense to make up for his absence on the offensive end (Game 4). They just really need an MVP performance caliber from Harden to win 2 out of 3. He's due for a hot shooting streak.

I don't see Tucker replicating the same offensive production in Game 2, someone else needs to contribute. Gerald Green, perhaps?


Also, HCA is going to be a tremendous advantage for a team already averaging more FTA in this series, Rockets is going to be difficult to beat at home in 7. Rox fan should feel very optimistic right now.

[MultiTroll]

Game 5 a must for Houston?
Or could they win again in Game 6 at the Oracle Phaggot Palace?

[benefactor]

Game 5 a must for Houston?
Or could they win again in Game 6 at the Oracle Phaggot Palace?
Yes. Houston's only chance is to push it to 7 at home. If they lose game 5 it's over.

[Chris Fall]

I don't know. Some people thought the series was over once Golden State won game 1. Then again after the 40 point win in game 3, some suggested the series was over.

That said, obviously the game 5 winner will be sitting pretty. I'm hoping it's as competitive as game 4, but with better actual basketball.

[DAF86]

I don't see the Warriors losing this.

[monosylab1k]

I don’t know that I’ve ever seen a team choke so badly and yet win.

[AlexJones]

I don’t know that I’ve ever seen a team choke so badly and yet win.
They held a historically great offense to a 12 pt 4Q

[AlexJones]

999023679055908864
HarlemHeat37 laying the wood

[Fabbs]

999023679055908864
HarlemHeat37 laying the wood
10-1 after Game 4? :lmao

My guts telling me the Laker-Warrior fix is on and that's why this too-good-to-be-true offer is being made.

[monosylab1k]

They held a historically great offense to a 12 pt 4Q

And still almost choked the game away.

[AlexJones]

10-1 after Game 4? :lmao

My guts telling me the Laker-Warrior fix is on and that's why this too-good-to-be-true offer is being made.

10-1 was before G4. But they did try to rig it at the end there putting 0.5 on the clock when it should've been 0.1

[Fabbs]

10-1 was before G4. But they did try to rig it at the end there putting 0.5 on the clock when it should've been 0.1
I was very surprised a foul was not called on whomever was guarding Klanus on that final shot. I think the Rocket did graze him before the shot. WarriorRef did not come to the rescue. :wow:wow