damn someone just did a twitter takedown of Kobe's career

[SuperCam]

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i like kobe easily the 3rd best SG of all time behind MJ and Harden JMO but put LeBron on lakers with shaq starting in 96 same age and they probably ring 8 or 9 times easy over the next ten years then another few more with Pau tbqh

[Clipper Nation]

:lol And people still act like there's a debate between this role player and LeGOAT.

[djohn2oo8]

Another Kobe thread.

[SuperCam]

:lol And people still act like there's a debate between this role player and LeGOAT.

that doesn't happen outside of Lakersground and tweetards tbh :lol


now that bron > MJ is starting to get real mainstream traction instead of "what lebron needs to do to catch jordan" i don't think we'll ever hear kobe's name again aside from random tards like barkley tbh

[gambit1990]

:wow

[Spurtacular]

Kobe was good. Maybe top 30 all-time even.

[Joseph Kony]

Damn that was concise, dude went in RAW on Kobe :lol

[Killakobe81]

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i like kobe easily the 3rd best SG of all time behind MJ and Harden JMO but put LeBron on lakers with shaq starting in 96 same age and they probably ring 8 or 9 times easy over the next ten years then another few more with Pau tbqh

Harden 2nd best SG ....:lmao Nicca is nice...but stop. he has had what 4 elite seasons?
As for the rest ...nicca retired for like two years but you wasted the time to post this and that cat on Twitter even more ...
be interesting if this was 2008 not 2018. yawwwwwwn.

[Killakobe81]

Another Kobe thread.

:sleep
The fact we still see them shows his relevance ...

[Clipper Nation]

:sleep
The fact we still see them shows his relevance ...
Just because Kobe retired doesn't mean his stans all retired too.

[djohn2oo8]

:sleep
The fact we still see them shows his relevance ...

More Kobe threads than Duncan threads.

[Chris]

More Kobe threads than Duncan threads.

Who would have thought in the NBA forum?

[Killakobe81]

Just because Kobe retired doesn't mean his stans all retired too.

But the theads arent created by Stans just haters and trolls.

[Killakobe81]

Who would have thought in the NBA forum?

But both are retired and we still see these ..
KG, Pierce, Duncan, etc all recently retired not a single thread ...

[Clipper Nation]

But the theads arent created by Stans just haters and trolls.
The thread is clearly a response to all the drivel his stans still spew all over social media.

[djohn2oo8]

The thread is clearly a response to all the drivel his stans still spew all over social media.

Well why pay attention to it?

[Killakobe81]

The thread is clearly a response to all the drivel his stans still spew all over social media.

Bringing more attention makes no sense ...
I could easily link his show detail and talk about how smart his film breakdowns are but honestly wgaf? im more worried about current Lakers than retired ones...
BTw dont see Shaq, Pau, Magic threads ...

[Arcadian]

I got Kobe > Harden, though

[RsxPiimp]

i have kobe right thur with wade. d wade is one of the most underrated player of his generation.

[StrengthAndHonor]

More Kobe threads than Duncan threads.

[Neo.]

great facts presented by that guy. no one in their right mind could even remotely see how kobes career could be considered greater than, or even in the ballpark of lebrons and mjs career

however

anyone saying harden or wade > kobe is nuts

and anyone saying kobe is anything less than a top 20 player all time is ridiculous. he definitely has some very solid arguments to be considered top 10, while also having some very solid arguments of being outside of the top 10. he definitely has some flaws that were covered up by winning and exposed by advanced stats, but being considered less than top 20 is illogical.

the kobe haters have become every bit as ridiculous as kobestans tbqh (cough cough ambchang)

[ElNono]

https://m.popkey.co/7d270b/DQoae.gif

[AlexJones]

Kobe this, Kobe that.


Kobe never quit on the Lakers the way Kawhi Leonard quit on the spurs.

[AlexJones]

http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Kobe+Bryant+San+Antonio+Spurs+v+Los+Angeles+SuX3-pw6qMSl.jpg

Kobe, after tearing his achilles a week before the season ended :wow:wow:wow

[Killakobe81]

great facts presented by that guy. no one in their right mind could even remotely see how kobes career could be considered greater than, or even in the ballpark of lebrons and mjs career

however

anyone saying harden or wade > kobe is nuts

and anyone saying kobe is anything less than a top 20 player all time is ridiculous. he definitely has some very solid arguments to be considered top 10, while also having some very solid arguments of being outside of the top 10. he definitely has some flaws that were covered up by winning and exposed by advanced stats, but being considered less than top 20 is illogical.

the kobe haters have become every bit as ridiculous as kobestans tbqh (cough cough ambchang)

i can agree with this ...
I think 12th was fair for Achilles ...but i can buy an argument for him as high as 8th or as low as 15th.
me personally he is my #2 SG which pits him low end top 10
LeBron is the goat SF so that puts him top 5 with magic kareem
Duncan and the GOAT ...

[Arcadian]

i can agree with this ...
I think 12th was fair for Achilles ...but i can buy an argument for him as high as 8th or as low as 15th.
me personally he is my #2 SG which pits him low end top 10
LeBron is the goat SF so that puts him top 5 with magic kareem
Duncan and the GOAT ...

I agree with this post.

[BD24]

i have kobe right thur with wade. d wade is one of the most underrated player of his generation.
Agreed, Kobe vs. Wade is a tough call.

Closer than people like to give Wade credit for. Biggest knock on Wade is longevity. He had a relativly short prime tbh. His body deteriorated on him pretty quickly.

[BD24]

i can agree with this ...
I think 12th was fair for Achilles ...but i can buy an argument for him as high as 8th or as low as 15th.
me personally he is my #2 SG which pits him low end top 10
LeBron is the goat SF so that puts him top 5 with magic kareem
Duncan and the GOAT ...
I can agree with this. Killa one of the more sensible Lakers posters on the site.

8 might be a touch too high, but 10-15 sounds about right.

He and Wade are close at SG I think. LOL at the dumb asses saying Harden>Kobe though :lol

[DMC]

12 gonna 12

[LkrFan]

Another Kobe thread.

[benefactor]

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[Clipper Nation]

Looks like there's another thread exposing Kobe:

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[gambit1990]

would take manu, wade over him.

[Stabula]

:sleep
The fact we still see them shows his relevance ...

His relevance is more as a pop icon rather than one of the best players of all time. Someone like Duncan wasn't a pop icon and whenever you hear of him now it's due to him being one of the best players to ever play the game.

[Thomas82]

Wow!!!!!

[Koolaid_Man]

I see Spur fan still eating Frosted Flakes with Kobe's cum...

all that bullshit can be easily refuted point by point...no sane person even cares at this point. You losers are pathetic. and the most pathetic of them all are Clipper Nation and Chuco...them cats are sip Kobe jizz out the baby bottle.

[BD24]

A "Laker fan" with over 40k post on a Spursfan board calling others pathetic and losers :lol

Never change faggot.

[daslicer]

I see Spur fan still eating Frosted Flakes with Kobe's cum...

all that bullshit can be easily refuted point by point...no sane person even cares at this point. You losers are pathetic. and the most pathetic of them all are Clipper Nation and Chuco...them cats are sip Kobe jizz out the baby bottle.

:lol A lot of salt in this post. Anyways Kool are you excited about getting Kawhi?

[lefty]

Kobe could have been great if he wasn't such a selfish phaggot tbh

[SuperCam]

I got Kobe > Harden, though

harden is the most fundamentally skilled SG to ever play the game though. if he had the physique and athleticism of a kobe/mj he'd be right there with lebron in GOAT potential tbqh

[dfens]

I see Spur fan still eating Frosted Flakes with Kobe's cum...

all that bullshit can be easily refuted point by point...no sane person even cares at this point. You losers are pathetic. and the most pathetic of them all are Clipper Nation and Chuco...them cats are sip Kobe jizz out the baby bottle.

this nigga is still alive :lmao son where's the gay cartoons at?

[dfens]

Kobe could have been great if he wasn't such a selfish phaggot tbh

tbh tbh tbh tbh.

[Arcadian]

harden is the most fundamentally skilled SG to ever play the game though. if he had the physique and athleticism of a kobe/mj he'd be right there with lebron in GOAT potential tbqh

Kobe had a post-up game and made 12 all-defensive teams, though

[Thebesteva]

A "Laker fan" with over 40k post on a Spursfan board calling others pathetic and losers :lol

Never change faggot.

LOL Spurs board cum guzzling Lebron thread after thread when you already have an all time great better than him in Duncan. :lol At least we defend our guys

[lefty]

harden is the most fundamentally skilled SG to ever play the game though. if he had the physique and athleticism of a kobe/mj he'd be right there with lebron in GOAT potential tbqh

So the travel stepback = fundamentals lol

[dfens]

harden is the most fundamentally skilled SG to ever play the game though. if he had the physique and athleticism of a kobe/mj he'd be right there with lebron in GOAT potential tbqh

post up game ?
midrange game?
man2man defense?
help defense?
switch defense?
leadership?
scoring under physical defense?

comparing harden with kobe :lmao

[dfens]

So the travel stepback = fundamentals lol

jordan would average 40 in this league tbh, not even joking smh.

[Neo.]

jordan would average 40 in this league tbh, not even joking smh.

unlikely

there are far more legit wing players in todays league, along with no more illegal defenses

he would not only have to face far better defenders/athletes/schemes, he would have to work much harder on defense, whether guarding wings like Lebron/KD/Harden/Kawhi, keeping up with guards like Steph/CP3/Russ, or chasing around guys like Korver/Klay/Beal through 10 screens each possession. much harder for him to conserve energy by hiding on defense than in his day, especially without the size to be able to play as a hybrid center the way guys like Lebron and KD can, and focus on team defense with their length and athletic ability.

[Clipper Nation]

jordan would average 40 in this league tbh, not even joking smh.

40 bricks per game, sure.

[dfens]

unlikely

there are far more legit wing players in todays league, along with no more illegal defenses

he would not only have to face far better defenders/athletes/schemes, he would have to work much harder on defense, whether guarding wings like Lebron/KD/Harden/Kawhi, keeping up with guards like Steph/CP3/Russ, or chasing around guys like Korver/Klay/Beal through 10 screens each possession. much harder for him to conserve energy by hiding on defense than in his day, especially without the size to be able to play as a hybrid center the way guys like Lebron and KD can, and focus on team defense with their length and athletic ability.


he would not only have to face far better defenders/athletes/schemes athletes don't make defenders, look at the horrible defense played these playoffs, and a no-middle basic scheme was being played even in the 70s so just lol at better schemes. also look at what lebron is doing and compare his first step and footwork to MJs, who had historically elite first step + footwork. Jordan would destroy without handchecking, he'd absolutely terrorize defenses. Also compare the undersized and soft centers of today's game to what you had in the 80s ... jordan would live in the paint in today's game.

he would have to work much harder on defense jordan was dpoy in an era of great centers, he played with a ferocity that would get him multiple T1s per game under today's rules, and his first step allowed him to be ultra aggressive without giving position away. He played in a physical era where defending meant taking a beating .. tbh you don't know what you're talking about here smh, jordan is a top 5 perimeter defender of all time and this era is all about perimeter defense.

whether guarding wings like Lebron/KD/Harden/Kawhi, keeping up with guards like Steph/CP3/Russ, or chasing around guys like Korver/Klay/Beal through 10 screens each possession. guarding lebron don't think so (too big), guarding kd/harden hell yes he'd make these niggas cry, kawai would be an easy guard for him. jordan has a faster first step than all of steph/cp3/russ while being a superior athlete, with superior size/reach/explosion/strength/aggression. he'd be an amazing defender in this era, as his foot speed and lane play would do much better than in the 80s. different rules also mean that he'd roam much more.

much harder for him to conserve energy by hiding on defense than in his day, especially without the size to be able to play as a hybrid center the way guys like Lebron and KD can, and focus on team defense with their length and athletic ability son no sane team would attack jordan non stop, that would be a low percentage shot against a historical athlete capable of playing heavy minutes at max intensity. Also jordan's off-ball defense would massively shine in this undersized centerless lax-rule era. Sure lebron and kd have the size but in terms of BPG jordan is equivalent. also do not forget that jordan played in a handcheck era which guaranteed a much higher energy consumption than this soft era. He'd be more than up to running around instead of muscling it out every possession.

Now compare jordan's ability of getting in the lane in halfcourt compared to lebron and kd and you'll see why he'd be a monster in this era, there is no team that could keep him out of the lane. He'd also get calls like harden so there's that.
In this era jordan would be harden + goat athleticism + goat defense + goat aggressiveness/alphaness + goat post game - elite 3p shooting + goat slashing + goat mind games + goat workethic (he'd get a good 3p shot guaranteed). Harden is dropping 32 a game right now ... there is no doubt in my mind that Jordan could drop 40 a game in this era, and I'm not even that much of a fan of Dad killer tbh, it's the fact that this era is absolutely perfect for jordan.



40 bricks per game, sure.
son please you weren't even born when that nigga was revolutionizing the game. :lol

[Clipper Nation]

:lol "Revolutionizing the game"

DK was just David Thompson on a stacked team, playing against plumbers, with Stern changing the rules to help him win.

[SpursforSix]

Muh Kobe

[Chris]

:cry stop talking about Kobe :cry

[TDfan2007]

These people calling Harden better than Kobe :lol not in this universe. The guy dogs it half the game, travels on a good chunk of his step backs, and plays to manipulate refs instead. Plus, he's a career playoff loser and choker.

[Neo.]

he would not only have to face far better defenders/athletes/schemes athletes don't make defenders, look at the horrible defense played these playoffs, and a no-middle basic scheme was being played even in the 70s so just lol at better schemes. also look at what lebron is doing and compare his first step and footwork to MJs, who had historically elite first step + footwork. Jordan would destroy without handchecking, he'd absolutely terrorize defenses. Also compare the undersized and soft centers of today's game to what you had in the 80s ... jordan would live in the paint in today's game.

he would have to work much harder on defense jordan was dpoy in an era of great centers, he played with a ferocity that would get him multiple T1s per game under today's rules, and his first step allowed him to be ultra aggressive without giving position away. He played in a physical era where defending meant taking a beating .. tbh you don't know what you're talking about here smh, jordan is a top 5 perimeter defender of all time and this era is all about perimeter defense.

whether guarding wings like Lebron/KD/Harden/Kawhi, keeping up with guards like Steph/CP3/Russ, or chasing around guys like Korver/Klay/Beal through 10 screens each possession. guarding lebron don't think so (too big), guarding kd/harden hell yes he'd make these niggas cry, kawai would be an easy guard for him. jordan has a faster first step than all of steph/cp3/russ while being a superior athlete, with superior size/reach/explosion/strength/aggression. he'd be an amazing defender in this era, as his foot speed and lane play would do much better than in the 80s. different rules also mean that he'd roam much more.

much harder for him to conserve energy by hiding on defense than in his day, especially without the size to be able to play as a hybrid center the way guys like Lebron and KD can, and focus on team defense with their length and athletic ability son no sane team would attack jordan non stop, that would be a low percentage shot against a historical athlete capable of playing heavy minutes at max intensity. Also jordan's off-ball defense would massively shine in this undersized centerless lax-rule era. Sure lebron and kd have the size but in terms of BPG jordan is equivalent. also do not forget that jordan played in a handcheck era which guaranteed a much higher energy consumption than this soft era. He'd be more than up to running around instead of muscling it out every possession.

Now compare jordan's ability of getting in the lane in halfcourt compared to lebron and kd and you'll see why he'd be a monster in this era, there is no team that could keep him out of the lane. He'd also get calls like harden so there's that.
In this era jordan would be harden + goat athleticism + goat defense + goat aggressiveness/alphaness + goat post game - elite 3p shooting + goat slashing + goat mind games + goat workethic (he'd get a good 3p shot guaranteed). Harden is dropping 32 a game right now ... there is no doubt in my mind that Jordan could drop 40 a game in this era, and I'm not even that much of a fan of Dad killer tbh, it's the fact that this era is absolutely perfect for jordan.


lol so much bs and revisionist history in this post its not even funny

not only that but you clearly missed the point on literally every single point

but but but hes jordan :cry :cry :cry

[Ice009]

i can agree with this ...
I think 12th was fair for Achilles ...but i can buy an argument for him as high as 8th or as low as 15th.
me personally he is my #2 SG which pits him low end top 10
LeBron is the goat SF so that puts him top 5 with magic kareem
Duncan and the GOAT ...

I've had Duncan in my top 5 since after the 2013 finals. I personally think he got in the top 5 after basically almost winning the finals MVP (would have won it if Pop and the other Spurs players didn't fuck up those last 27 seconds of regulation for him while he was sitting on the bench watching it all unfold). I haven't seen many other people mention him in the top 5. Steve Kerr has said it, but I haven't heard anyone else outside of Spurs fans mention it.

So yeah, IMO 2013 got him in the top 5, and then I think 2014 and 2015 he cemented himself there. If he didn't back it up with those two seasons, then I'd be OK with people putting him in the 6-10 range, but those two seasons coming off the 2013 finals, I really do think he cemented himself there.

Interestingly, your top 5 also forms a complete starting 5 from Center to Point Guard. It might be the best top 5 list I've seen, and also the greatest starting 5 list I've ever seen. Two versatile big men that can score in a variety of ways. Great interior defense and rebounding from TD (not sure what Kareem's D was like in his prime?). You've got a SF that can pass and/or score equally well, he also showed he could play defense during his prime. You've got a shooting guard that can score at will and take over games in crunch time. You've got a pass first PG that will be happy to run the team and not worry about scoring points unless he really has to. Darn man, that's an amazing starting 5.

[Killakobe81]

I've had Duncan in my top 5 since after the 2013 finals. I personally think he got in the top 5 after basically almost winning the finals MVP (would have won it if Pop and the other Spurs players didn't fuck up those last 27 seconds of regulation for him while he was sitting on the bench watching it all unfold). I haven't seen many other people mention him in the top 5. Steve Kerr has said it, but I haven't heard anyone else outside of Spurs fans mention it.

So yeah, IMO 2013 got him in the top 5, and then I think 2014 and 2015 he cemented himself there. If he didn't back it up with those two seasons, then I'd be OK with people putting him in the 6-10 range, but those two seasons coming off the 2013 finals, I really do think he cemented himself there.

Interestingly, your top 5 also forms a complete starting 5 from Center to Point Guard. It might be the best top 5 list I've seen, and also the greatest starting 5 list I've ever seen. Two versatile big men that can score in a variety of ways. Great interior defense and rebounding from TD (not sure what Kareem's D was like in his prime?). You've got a SF that can pass and/or score equally well, he also showed he could play defense during his prime. You've got a shooting guard that can score at will and take over games in crunch time. You've got a pass first PG that will be happy to run the team and not worry about scoring points unless he really has to. Darn man, that's an amazing starting 5.

i did it that way on purpose, tbh.
that way im judging
Lebron vs. Bird
kareem vs Shaq
Duncan vs. Malone, Dirk

inside that top 5 i would say Kareem and Jordan are top 2 with a debate for 3-5 Lebron got the stats Duncan longevity plus rings do magic is probably 5th.
i caughrtonly tail end of Kareem's prime but was an amazing shotblocker and rebounder then with high iq but he wasnt a prime Hakeem or David on that end ...magic in his prime was also just a good team defender who once led nba in steals but one of the best PG rebounders ....
in fact my team would be excellent on ge break only downside is elite 3pt shooting magic and bron improved but team lacks a knock down marksmen before Bird was supplanted by Bron my team had it. But my top 5 is all the best i ever seen at each position...

[Lakers999]

I think it’s fair to say that any real nba fan no matter what would have loved to have prime kobe on their team. As a first option or a second he is the most deadliest back court players to ever play the game and his killer instinct is something that anyone would love to see if he was playing for your team

JUst by that assumption kobe name is deserved to be amongst the all time greats