How the Russians used the NRA to buy Trump

[Bill_Brasky]

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/russian-campaign-to-infiltrate-nra-elect-trump-w518587

Crazy. They are so far ahead of us when it comes to cyber warfare, misinformation, and propoganda.

[Chris]

r:lolll:lolngst:loln:lol

[boutons_deux]

"studies have shown" that racism/white identity politics motivated Trash's base more than economics, which was second

and guess what the priority was for Pootin's cyber army?

Most Russian Facebook ads sought to divide Americans on race

According to a new analysis, most Russian-linked Facebook ads before and after the 2016 election were tied to race, crime, and policing.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/5/13/17349670/facebook-russia-ads-race-house-democrats

[ElNono]

Good read, thanks OP

[Bill_Brasky]

Oh

[pgardn]

http://time.com/5340362/mariia-butina-arrest-russia/

Donald even took a question from her.
“We don’t need sanctions.”
Until the Senate pushed his ass in.

We need better relations so they can fk with our elections.

[Fabbs]

"studies have shown" that racism/white identity politics motivated Trash's base more than economics, which was second

and guess what the priority was for Pootin's cyber army?

Most Russian Facebook ads sought to divide Americans on race

According to a new analysis, most Russian-linked Facebook ads before and after the 2016 election were tied to race, crime, and policing.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/5/13/17349670/facebook-russia-ads-race-house-democrats

:lol basing your vote on a phucking Facebook article.

[DarrinS]

That chick that nobody ever heard of until today, probably switched millions of votes.

[Pavlov]

That chick that nobody ever heard of until today, probably switched millions of votes.Plenty of people heard about her before today.

Just not you, Darrin.

And Chris.

And derp.

usw....

[pgardn]

That chick that nobody ever heard of until today, probably switched millions of votes.

No I don’t think she did.
She worked for the Russian government attempting to play with our far right wing nuts.
Thats enough Darrin. You go try that in Russia and see where you end up.

[Spurminator]

That chick that nobody ever heard of until today, probably switched millions of votes.

My god you are a fiercely loyal piece of shit, aren't you?

You're not required to pick a team and stick with it, Darrin. You can admit when shit looks bad. It wouldn't reflect as poorly on you as these takes do.

[DarrinS]

My god you are a fiercely loyal piece of shit, aren't you?

You're not required to pick a team and stick with it, Darrin. You can admit when shit looks bad. It wouldn't reflect as poorly on you as these takes do.


I didn’t vote in 2016 election.

[Spurminator]

I didn’t vote in 2016 election.

Do you think I care? How is that relevant?

You're still a pathetic Trump loyalist who keeps digging himself into a deeper hole for, what, imaginary internet points? Have some dignity and conviction you fucking pussy.

[DarrinS]

Do you think I care? How is that relevant?

You're still a pathetic Trump loyalist who keeps digging himself into a deeper hole for, what, imaginary internet points? Have some dignity and conviction you fucking pussy.

Uh, ok

[DMC]

Do you think I care? How is that relevant?

You're still a pathetic Trump loyalist who keeps digging himself into a deeper hole for, what, imaginary internet points? Have some dignity and conviction you fucking pussy.

Let's look at a few supposed facts (I say supposed because I cannot independently verify them, I have to take someone's word for it)

1. Hillary's campaign railroaded Bernie Sanders
2. Hillary's campaign received the debate questions in advance
3. Hillary had 20 years to run for office, didn't really need to get around much.
4. Hillary had a projected 98.1% chance of winning

Do I think Trumps people colluded? Most likely. However you're being a bit sanctimonious here as a Hillary supporter to call someone out for toeing a party line. Also the virtue signaling is a bit too thick.

You had every... EVERY fucking opportunity to claim the Whitehouse and you fucking blew it. You've not faced that fact. You were outplayed by a fucking orange reality TV guy who openly stated he would grab women by the pussy, months before the election, and fucking won. This dude was roasted by the same people who roasted Charlie Sheen.

I mean, you cannot even invent shit this fucked up. Goddamn the DNC is defunct.

Still, somehow to you it's the end of the world now. You see that brass impeachment ring and you're reaching for it...

keep reaching. What a shit show.

[Pavlov]

Do I think Trumps people colluded? Most likely.lol bury det lede, DMC

[Spurminator]

That post was not at all relevant to what I said, but at least you met your weekly "Hillary" quota. :lol

I had one vote in 2016 and I cast it for Hillary Clinton. I'm not sure what you think I should have done personally to swing battleground states in her favor, but we're not talking about campaign strategy here, we're talking about an individual's blind loyalty to a disloyal President two years after he was elected.

[Spurminator]

All you idiots have to say is "Yeah, looks like there's some suspicious coordination between Russian operatives and the NRA here, but I still preferred Trump in 2016," but you won't do it because you're so afraid that strangers you spend way too much time arguing online with might perceive this to be a "W."

[DMC]

That post was not at all relevant to what I said, but at least you met your weekly "Hillary" quota. :lol

I had one vote in 2016 and I cast it for Hillary Clinton. I'm not sure what you think I should have done personally to swing battleground states in her favor, but we're not talking about campaign strategy here, we're talking about blind loyalty to a disloyal President two years after he was elected.

The "I'm only one person" defense. A card often played after you accuse though repeated insinuation that the other side is homogeneous.

[Pavlov]

Weird DMC meltdown tbh.

[DMC]

Weird DMC meltdown tbh.

You have a comment for everything. I'd bet your a fucking blast to hang out with.

[Spurminator]

The "I'm only one person" defense. A card often played after you accuse though repeated insinuation that the other side is homogeneous.

Side? Homogenous? I accused Darrin (one person) of semen shielding for Donald Trump.

[Pavlov]

You have a comment for everything. I'd bet your a fucking blast to hang out with.I bet you're a douche who can't take an actual stand in real life either.

[DMC]

Side? Homogenous? I accused Darrin (one person) of semen shielding for Donald Trump.

Darrin says he didn't vote - You didn't care, he's a Trump loyalist who didn't vote.

You say you did vote - You claim to be only one person though with no power though you created a sock puppet to troll Trump supporters and prop up Hillary.

It's a common tactic to claim you aren't part of "them" when it looks bad for them, yet you consider the other side all the same, even those who didn't vote.

Yes, you're fucking retarded.

[Pavlov]

Darrin says he didn't vote - You didn't care, he's a Trump loyalist who didn't vote.

You say you did vote - You claim to be only one person though with no power though you created a sock puppet to troll Trump supporters and prop up Hillary.

It's a common tactic to claim you aren't part of "them" when it looks bad for them, yet you consider the other side all the same, even those who didn't vote.

Yes, you're fucking retarded.This is the stupidest argument you have ever attempted.

[DMC]

I bet you're a douche who can't take an actual stand in real life either.

:lol multi sock puppets online
:lol considers it "taking a stand"
:lol stops at 99,999 posts before falling off the wagon, deleting a few posts and finally resurrecting an old alt to keep being the forum fuckhole

Taking a stand... :lol

[Pavlov]

:lol multi sock puppets online
:lol considers it "taking a stand"
:lol stops at 99,999 posts before falling off the wagon, deleting a few posts and finally resurrecting an old alt to keep being the forum fuckhole

Taking a stand... :lol:lol collecting information and doxxing posters
:lol that's your stand
:lol no one here has ever taken the board more seriously

[DMC]

:lol collecting information and doxxing posters

I never doxxed you but I could.

[Pavlov]

I never doxxed you but I could.Of course you could.

Thanks for taking that interest in me.

It's important to you.

Threat acknowledged.

[DMC]

:lol collecting information and doxxing posters
:lol that's your stand
:lol no one here has ever taken the board more seriously

Rapid editing your posts, feeling a bit insecure in your offerings?

:lol

[Pavlov]

Rapid editing your posts, feeling a bit insecure in your offerings?

:lolI added to the post.

[DMC]

Of course you could.

Thanks for taking that interest in me.

It's important to you.

Threat acknowledged.

This shtick didn't work for you the last time you tried to cry victim. Regurgitating it won't change that.

[Pavlov]

This shtick didn't work for you the last time you tried to cry victim. Regurgitating it won't change that.You made a threat.

I acknowledge your threat.

[DMC]

I added to the post.

That's odd. I don't see an "add to post" option.

[Pavlov]

That's odd. I don't see an "add to post" option.One can add or take away or otherwise change a post when editing.

[DMC]

5 minutes of chump rodeo and you can be 5 pages deeper.

No I didn't
Prove it
Where's the evidence?
So you don't have evidence, got it
So where's the evidence?
That's not evidence
Prove it's evidence
No it isn't, see I can do that too
Prove it, be specific
Be specific
Prove it, be specific


You changed your username to keep doing that? :lol

[DMC]

Rapid editing your posts, feeling a bit insecure in your offerings?

:lol


I added to the post.


That's odd. I don't see an "add to post" option.


One can add or take away or otherwise change a post when editing.

So you edited your post.

[Pavlov]

5 minutes of chump rodeo and you can be 5 pages deeper.

No I didn't
Prove it
Where's the evidence?
So you don't have evidence, got it
So where's the evidence?
That's not evidence
Prove it's evidence
No it isn't, see I can do that too
Prove it, be specific
Be specific
Prove it, be specific


You changed your username to keep doing that? :lolI try to have discussions. Not my problem others can't prove their assertions.

You merely collect poster information and try to make yourself feel good about not ever having a take.

[Pavlov]

So you edited your post.Yes, I added to it.

[Spurminator]

✔️Hillary✔️My alt

Every time, without fail. :lol


Darrin says he didn't vote - You didn't care, he's a Trump loyalist who didn't vote.

I said I didn't care that Darrin didn't vote because it wasn't relevant to defending the President of the United States in 2018. This should not be hard to follow. It's not a long conversation.


You say you did vote - You claim to be only one person though with no power though you created a sock puppet to troll Trump supporters and prop up Hillary.

When did I say I had no power? I had a vote. (Oh yeah, and a Spurstalk altLOL) Unfortunately, that's still not enough to swing a national election.

You seem to suggest that I should take it as a personal failure that my choice for POTUS lost when all I can do is vote and advocate for my viewpoints to a maybe a few dozen people. That's pretty silly.

You say you did vote - You claim to be only one person though with no power though you created a sock puppet to troll Trump supporters and prop up Hillary.


It's a common tactic to claim you aren't part of "them" when it looks bad for them, yet you consider the other side all the same, even those who didn't vote.

You're one to talk about virtue signaling. And you just make shit up to do it, too. Low self esteem?


Yes, you're fucking retarded.

Yep, definitely low self esteem.

Stop projecting your misery onto me, faggot. You're not the big boy you think you are.

[DMC]

I try to have discussions. Not my problem others can't prove their assertions.

You merely collect poster information and try to make yourself feel good about not ever having a take.

:lol "It's not me, it's everyone else!"

[Pavlov]

:lol "It's not me, it's everyone else!"I don't give a shit who you are.

You do give a shit who I am.

[Spurminator]

So you edited your post.

Editing a post isn't a weakness. It's a pretty pathetic tactic to try to shame someone over using a basic forum function, and it's especially pathetic coming from someone who also edits his posts.

Not that there's anything wrong with that...

[DMC]

✔️Hillary✔️My alt

Every time, without fail. :lol



I said I didn't care that Darrin didn't vote because it wasn't relevant to defending the President of the United States in 2018. This should not be hard to follow. It's not a long conversation.



When did I say I had no power? I had a vote. (Oh yeah, and a Spurstalk altLOL) Unfortunately, that's still not enough to swing a national election.

You seem to suggest that I should take it as a personal failure that my choice for POTUS lost when all I can do is vote and advocate for my viewpoints to a maybe a few dozen people. That's pretty silly.

You say you did vote - You claim to be only one person though with no power though you created a sock puppet to troll Trump supporters and prop up Hillary.



You're one to talk about virtue signaling. And you just make shit up to do it, too. Low self esteem?



Yep, definitely low self esteem.

Stop projecting your misery onto me, faggot. You're not the big boy you think you are.

Pretty sure you're the faggot here, bro.

Darrin did less than you to put someone in office. In fact, him not voting for Trump removes any support he could possibly have given, since he's likely not a wealthy person so no large campaign contributions.

On the flip side, you did vote, yet you consider you one measly vote to be unimportant. Somehow Darrin's zero vote is more supportive than your 1 vote. All the shit you spew afterward on twitter feeds and faceplant and everything else you faggots post on is just confirmation bias echo chamber time. It's not really a support mechanism to say rah rah rah. Likewise here no one needs to affirm or deny anything, it has zero to do with what goes on in Washington.

But the lot of you stick to your party and your candidate because you were with her, it was her turn after all. There are people who feel that Trump is the return of Jesus and those who would have pushed the button to gas him to death before he ever said a word in a campaign speech. There are Trumpers and never Trumpers. They are all just as bad. Stop pretending you're a middle of the road guy. You aren't.

[Spurminator]

I never doxxed you but I could.

Ooh look at you, big boy!

[DMC]

Editing a post isn't a weakness. It's a pretty pathetic tactic to try to shame someone over using a basic forum function, and it's especially pathetic coming from someone who also edits his posts.

Not that there's anything wrong with that...

So he edited his post. Why the euphemism?

[spurraider21]

DMC can't differentiate between casting a vote in november 2016 and defending the president in july 2018

[DMC]

Ooh look at you, big boy!

But I haven't. Many people here could doxx many other people. It's no secret. Why are you pretending I made some outlandish claim? :lol

[Pavlov]

Pretty sure you're the faggot here, bro.

Darrin did less than you to put someone in office. In fact, him not voting for Trump removes any support he could possibly have given, since he's likely not a wealthy person so no large campaign contributions.

On the flip side, you did vote, yet you consider you one measly vote to be unimportant. Somehow Darrin's zero vote is more supportive than your 1 vote. All the shit you spew afterward on twitter feeds and faceplant and everything else you faggots post on is just confirmation bias echo chamber time. It's not really a support mechanism to say rah rah rah. Likewise here no one needs to affirm or deny anything, it has zero to do with what goes on in Washington.

But the lot of you stick to your party and your candidate because you were with her, it was her turn after all. There are people who feel that Trump is the return of Jesus and those who would have pushed the button to gas him to death before he ever said a word in a campaign speech. There are Trumpers and never Trumpers. They are all just as bad. Stop pretending you're a middle of the road guy. You aren't.....DMC said from his permanent place on the fence.

[DMC]

DMC can't differentiate between casting a vote in november 2016 and defending the president in july 2018

The same voices on the same side of the subject every single time. You don't even need to read the thread to know what everyone said, just see the user names. Take your name, for example, I knew it was a snipe from the median, a situational observation post. Bam, there it was :lol

[Spurminator]

Pretty sure you're the faggot here, bro.

Darrin did less than you to put someone in office. In fact, him not voting for Trump removes any support he could possibly have given, since he's likely not a wealthy person so no large campaign contributions.

On the flip side, you did vote, yet you consider you one measly vote to be unimportant. Somehow Darrin's zero vote is more supportive than your 1 vote. All the shit you spew afterward on twitter feeds and faceplant and everything else you faggots post on is just confirmation bias echo chamber time. It's not really a support mechanism to say rah rah rah. Likewise here no one needs to affirm or deny anything, it has zero to do with what goes on in Washington.

But the lot of you stick to your party and your candidate because you were with her, it was her turn after all. There are people who feel that Trump is the return of Jesus and those who would have pushed the button to gas him to death before he ever said a word in a campaign speech. There are Trumpers and never Trumpers. They are all just as bad. Stop pretending you're a middle of the road guy. You aren't.

This is all complete nonsense and emotional baggage.

You can criticize the President regardless of whether you voted for him. Period.

[DMC]

....DMC said from his permanent place on the fence.

:madrun You must choose a side!!

[DMC]

This is all complete nonsense and emotional baggage.

You can criticize the President regardless of whether you voted for him. Period.

You mean join the chorus? Do you need more voices in the ST echo chamber? :lol

[Pavlov]

:madrun You must choose a side!!No one said you had to.

You simply never have.

Ever.

[DMC]

No one said you had to.

You simply never have.

Ever.

Prove it

[Pavlov]

Prove itDemanding I prove a negative?

lol you really aren't as smart as you want to seem

[DMC]

Demanding I prove a negative?

lol you really aren't as smart as you want to seem

Prove your claim. You made it.

[Pavlov]

Prove your claim. You made it.http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/search.php?do=finduser&userid=20665&contenttype=vBForum_Post&showposts=1

[Spurminator]

You mean join the chorus? Do you need more voices in the ST echo chamber? :lol

I don't need anything. I reserve the right to call out anyone who reflexively holds the line for the President, particularly on a topic such as this where it seems pretty black and white that there was coordination between the NRA and a Russian spy. Just as you reserve the right to come to their aid with two pages of off-topic argumentative drivel about Hillary Clinton.

[DMC]

I don't need anything. I reserve the right to call out anyone who reflexively holds the line for the President, particularly on a topic such as this where it seems pretty black and white that there was coordination between the NRA and a Russian spy. Just as you reserve the right to come to their aid with two pages of off-topic argumentative drivel about Hillary Clinton.

When you're Antifa level opposition to anything GOP, your words here are just part of the ST liberal echo chamber. No need to get all felt up about it.

[DMC]

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/search.php?do=finduser&userid=20665&contenttype=vBForum_Post&showposts=1

So can you or can you not prove a negative? I mean, you made the negative assertion.

[Pavlov]

So can you or can you not prove a negative? I mean, you made the negative assertion.Have you read every post? Let me know.

[spurraider21]

snipe from the median, a situational observation post. Bam, there it was :lol


:madrun You must choose a side!!
:lmao

[Bill_Brasky]

Yeah, the super intelligent guy in the room is the one saying "but Hillary" and doing the back and forth with ChumpDumper. We should all listen to what that dipshit has to say.

[Winehole23]

tactically sound. DMC derailed all but Spurminator, everybody else is talking about DMC.

[hater]

That chick that nobody ever heard of until today, probably switched millions of votes.

Id say billions

Billions of votes

[pgardn]

tactically sound. DMC derailed all but Spurminator, everybody else is talking about DMC.

Go back to the first page.
The personal back and forth often derail threads on this board.

[Winehole23]

Go back to the first page.
The personal back and forth often derail threads on this board.yep, it does.

people seem to prefer flame wars to topical discussion, not that there's anything wrong with that.

[boutons_deux]

SO Pootin suckered, compromised hyper-patriot NRA into treason, into subverting USA's so-called democracy!

gotta love it! :lol

[Winehole23]

this stood out to me:


this was not an action by Mueller but by the Justice Department’s National Security Division (NSD) and the U.S. attorney’s office in Washington. https://www.lawfareblog.com/latest-russia-twist-criminal-charges-against-mariia-butina

[Winehole23]

even if DJT and his loyal followers don't take it seriously, the DOJ does.

given how many different investigating authorities there are, the legal hazard to...let's say the DJT campaign...can't be stopped by firing Sessions, Rosenstein and Mueller. and if he did, the political hazard might be worse.

[pgardn]

this stood out to me:

https://www.lawfareblog.com/latest-russia-twist-criminal-charges-against-mariia-butina

yep

Since Mueller is the root of all Republican hate.
Then we got the ubiquitous DEEP STATE in which every intelligence officer/administor/dept. is in on...
The red team loves ghost stories.

[boutons_deux]

this stood out to me:

https://www.lawfareblog.com/latest-russia-twist-criminal-charges-against-mariia-butina

this must have really frustrated, pissed off JeBo, a reliable Pootin asset, that he couldn't shut it down.

[Winehole23]

if Sessions is such a reliable asset for the Russians, why did he impanel Mueller?

calling everyone who works for DJT a Russian asset is moronic, but boutons for once seems to have stumbled on a rhetorical trope that's effective: Cold War atavism.

it's weird to me how Republicans are posing as peaceniks and Dems are wrapping themselves in national security and the flag.

[pgardn]

The Senate SHOULD have a gigantic sanction package on the table pretty soon.

Orange guy comes into these meetings totally unprepared and even then goes off script.
Orange guy just forced his own ten high hand.
Almost the entire blue team is now even more convinced Russia got Trump elected and holds power over him. This is exactly what this country does not need. Imo, an exaggerated claim. We go all Russiaphobe now with a big kickback that makes a military solution more palatable for extremes. Not good.

[Winehole23]

Almost the entire blue team is now even more convinced Russia got Trump elected and holds power over him. This is exactly what this country does not need. Imo, an exaggerated claim. We go all Russiaphobe now with a big kickback that makes a military solution more palatable for extremes. Not goodAgree 100%

[boutons_deux]

"if Sessions is such a reliable asset for the Russians, why did he impanel Mueller?"

Remember how many top Repugs were slobbering over Mueller BEFORE he got nasty with Trash? Very little risk and plenty of cover for dickless JeBo to choose Mueller

"calling everyone who works for DJT a Russian asset is moronic"

oh yeah?

tell us why JeBo, as a Senator from fucking AL, met with Russians multiple times, then LIED and/or FORGOT about those meetings before Congress.

He "forgot" something like 100+ times before Congress, which just may be par for a two-bit, racist lawyer from AL.

He's compromised, and he knows it.

"but boutons for once seems to have stumbled on a rhetorical trope that's effective: Cold War atavism."

G F Y

then you go on to contradict yourself, and support my contentions about Repugs and Russians :

"it's weird to me how Republicans are posing as peaceniks and Dems are wrapping themselves in national security and the flag"

Repugs aren't peaceniks, except towards ADVERSARY Pootin. They're traitors cozying up to a very weak adversary. They are either dickless accomplices of Trash, or something else.

but WTF is this Repug infatuation with Pootin? Where's the benefit to Repugs or USA?

This goes back, at least, to Repugs and right wing hate media ridiculing knee-crossing black Obama vs man-spreading white Pootin. I thought then it was just racist, Muslim-hate for BHO, to embarrass him as "illegit KENYAN" "professor" "community activist" Pres while cozying up to murderous, autocrat, white Pootin, as a preferable leader.

But BHO is long gone, and Repugs, independent of Trash, are still pro-Pootin.

My guess is that there's something nefarious with the Repugs cumming over Pootin, because Repugs don't give a fuck about USA, democracy, ethics, morals. What do Repugs gain cumming over Pootin, giving him the benefit of the doubt as legit leader and equal?

Ayn Rand Paul and fucking CATO are now going to crawl to Pootin soon, after 6 Congressional Repugs did it recently.

W T F?

I mean REALLY

W T F?

[Winehole23]

Orange guy comes into these meetings totally unprepared and even then goes off script.
Orange guy just forced his own ten high hand.I would say DJT is undermined by his propensity to wing it, but the pattern suggests he might not be coachable.

Maybe it's time to break out the teleprompter: DJT tends to reduce his own political cover every time he opens his mouth.

DJT's reserves of Congressional support are not infinite. The blowback from yesterday's joint appearance with Putin shows that.

[boutons_deux]

...

[DMC]

:lmao

false equivilency

[DMC]

Have you read every post? Let me know.

yes

[boutons_deux]

DJT's reserves of Congressional support are not infinite. The blowback from yesterday's joint appearance with Putin shows that.

As my WaPo article link says, Repugs are terrified of Trash's cult, which is still for Trash and pro-Pootin (because Trash is pro-Pootin), and also afraid of losing the swing voters who are probably all swinging away from Trash and Repugs.

Repugs, who mostly support FBI/IC about Pootin, won't say the conclusion that Pootin helped/elected Trash to be an illegit President because that would piss off Trash and his cult, and get them destroyed in November.

[Winehole23]

it's a tough dilemma for congressional Republicans. caught between Beltway insiders and their own voters.

[pgardn]

it's a tough dilemma for congressional Republicans. caught between Beltway insiders and their own voters.

Voters that have no clue what a democracy is and why this summit was so significant for what was not said as well.

“Mr. Putin, I was elected to lead this country thru a democratic process that you tried to play with. Now, half the US thinks I’m beholden to you. Can you see how this affects my ability to run a FREE country?

No you can’t? Or no, that was the purpose of this deeply disturbing willful intrusion?”

fckn orange idiot...

[SnakeBoy]

if Sessions is such a reliable asset for the Russians, why did he impanel Mueller?

calling everyone who works for DJT a Russian asset is moronic, but boutons for once seems to have stumbled on a rhetorical trope that's effective: Cold War atavism.

it's weird to me how Republicans are posing as peaceniks and Dems are wrapping themselves in national security and the flag.

It is probably going to get weirder as the realignment of the two parties continues to play out over the years.

[Bill_Brasky]

Ahem

[Spurs Homer]

30 million investment - it worked out beautifully for the Russians!

Not only did they buy/pay for a president - they got an entire right wing GOP and 35% of a cult to go with it!

[Winehole23]

Butina plea deal drops.

1073266097816813568

[boutons_deux]

NRA leader, Jack Abramoff :lol and GOP operative tied to alleged Russian spy Maria Butina have long history as foreign agents lobbying together

Meanwhile, David Keene — a paid member of the NRA’s board of directors and former president of the gun rights organization who has faced scrutiny over ties to Butina’s alleged Russian influence operation — has registered as a different type of foreign agent lobbying for Argentina’s government.

Keene and Erickson have a long history together dating back to the 1990s when they were registered foreign agents lobbying, in collaboration with Jack Abramoff, for a well-known “dictator” to gain entry into the United States.

Signs that Butina may soon cop a plea deal follows a September filing (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-09-08/accused-russian-spy-not-fit-for-pre-trial-release-u-s-argues) by federal prosecutors indicating that Butina “offered to provide information to the government about [Erickson’s] illegal activities.”

The NRA’s cozy ties with Russia

In December 2015, Butina’s Russian gun-rights organization called the Right to Bear Arms sponsored an NRA delegation to Moscow where attendees met with influential Russian officials including former deputy prime minister Dmitry Rogozin who had been under U.S. sanctions since 2014.
Alexander Torshin — a Russian politician and longtime associate of Butina who has since come under U.S. sanctions — played a key role in the trip and, allegedly,

Russia’s decade-long operation infiltrating American conservative groups.

Senate intelligence and finance committees have reportedly requested (https://www.thedailybeast.com/senate-intelligence-wants-documents-on-nras-russia-trip) documents on the NRA’s connections to Russia,

including documents related to whether the NRA took Russian money and the 2015 delegation.

After spending a record (https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2018/11/nra-in-the-red/) $54.4 million to put President Donald Trump in the White House and support Republicans in Congress,

the NRA’s membership dues dropped precipitously the following year.

Although the NRA’s lawyers initially denied the Russian money, they eventually admitted (https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/wyden-wants-answers-on-nras-moscow-trip) to receiving “a total of approximately $2,512.85 from people associated Russian addresses”

Keene’s wife, in collaboration with Erickson, reportedly offered (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/02/us/politics/maria-butina-russian-spy.html) Butina $1 million to help secure 5 million barrels of Russian jet fuel — nearly two times all of Russia’s refineries exports in a month — in an unsuccessful scheme to sell the fuel through an American middleman in 2017.

https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2018/12/nra-leader-jack-abramoff-gop-operative-russian-spy-maria-butina-lobbying/

NRA spent $54M on Trash, while

"the NRA was struggling financially, reporting a $45 million budget deficit in 2016 tax documents."

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/nra-says-new-york-blacklisting-campaign-driving-it-out-business-n897521

[Spurs Homer]

lol Fox news reports that this Russian spy...

"has nothing to do with the Mueller investigation"

after saying for 2 years that this "rusher thing" is nothing but DEMS making up this because of the 2016 election

now they are carefully saying this is something "separate" from Mueller lol

[Winehole23]

it is separate from Mueller, it's the DC US Atty's office.

[boutons_deux]

And Trash will fart "No Collusion"

[koriwhat]

And Trash will fart "No Collusion"

and you'll regurgitate a bunch of worthless articles from your far left loon outlets here day in and day out. ugh...

[Spurs Homer]

it is separate from Mueller, it's the DC US Atty's office.

Separate - yes -

Unrelated - Nope

LE agencies can work separately or they can work in tandem and share intel with each other.

Mueller is not the only agency that can investigate Russia and Trumps fuckery.

[Winehole23]

Separate - yes -

Unrelated - Nope.Burden's on you to show it. I know you put a lot of faith in investigative results, maybe they'll bear out your hunch, maybe they won't.

[Winehole23]

Mueller is not the only agency that can investigate Russia and Trumps fuckery.Who argued he was?

[Winehole23]

To the extent NRA funds were used improperly in any facts discussed in the [Democratic report led by Wyden], it appears to have been minor, hardly a rounding error for an organization with hundreds of millions of dollars in revenue each year and nothing that cannot be corrected with minor intermediate sanctions," the Republican analysis states.This is the GOP defense of the NRA.

:lol

https://www.npr.org/2019/09/27/764879242/nra-was-foreign-asset-to-russia-ahead-of-2016-new-senate-report-reveals

[Winehole23]

YES, NRA FUNDS WERE USED IMPROPERLY, BUT ONLY MINOR SANCTIONS ARE APPROPRIATE.

[boutons_deux]

The hyper-patriotic NRA was/is compromised by Pootin and his mafiya.

As Wyden says, take nothing the deeply corrupt NRA says/LIES at face value

[Winehole23]

Move along, nothing to see here, you looky-loos

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/27/us/politics/trump-lapierre-nra-impeachment.html

[boutons_deux]

Senate Probe Finds NRA Knowingly Served Russian Agent’s Scheme

https://49f6rfjar763vnsgn1y42mip-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Maria-Butina-e1569636757942.jpg

Senate Finance Committee’s Democratic staff reveals that

the NRA knew about Butina’s links to Vladimir Putin’s regime and welcomed her anyway,

offering her access to the conservative movement.

The same, they found, was true of Butina’s then-boss, former Russian government official Alexander Torshin

— a “lifetime member (https://twitter.com/torshin_ru/status/796465054094868480)” of the NRA who was sanctioned (https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sm0338) by the U.S. Department of Treasury in April 2018.

According to their investigation,

“the NRA, its officers, board members, and donors engaged in a years-long effort to facilitate the U.S.-based activities of Maria Butina and Alexander Torshin.”

They also found that some NRA officials who traveled to Moscow for a December 2015 meeting with Butina’s group used the trip for their own business interests, a possible breach of the NRA’s tax-exempt purpose.

https://www.nationalmemo.com/senate-probe-finds-nra-knowingly-served-russian-agents-scheme/?cn-reloaded=1 (https://www.nationalmemo.com/senate-probe-finds-nra-knowingly-served-russian-agents-scheme/?cn-reloaded=1)

I used to think Repugs' infatuation for white, Macho Man Pootin was

to spite black, leg-crossing Obama, (iow, better a white enemy than a black American)

but apparently the Repugs were simply, totally compromised by Pootin and his mafiya.

[Winehole23]

Paul Erickson pleaded guilty to fraud and money laundering today.

Fuckin dumbass.

1072282981195227136

[Winehole23]

late update, Paul erickson was sentenced last summer:


A Sioux Falls man who used his connections in the conservative movement to help his Russian girlfriend gain political access was sentenced Monday to serve seven years in federal prison.

https://www.argusleader.com/story/news/2020/07/06/former-political-operative-paul-erickson-maria-butina-sentencing/5383306002/