Congrats Monsanto

[SnakeBoy]

Monsanto Recognized as AACC ‘Champion of Diversity & Inclusion’
http://www.stltoday.com/pr/business/monsanto-recognized-as-aacc-champion-of-diversity-inclusion/article_c4bfcc08-441e-11e8-b979-13410c529e80.html

[AaronY]

Monsanto Recognized as AACC ‘Champion of Diversity & Inclusion’
http://www.stltoday.com/pr/business/monsanto-recognized-as-aacc-champion-of-diversity-inclusion/article_c4bfcc08-441e-11e8-b979-13410c529e80.html
This troll thread is pretty lame considering conservatives have about the same view of GMO as liberals
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[AaronY]

GMOs are generally safe btw and one of the best things to happen to the world last 50 years tbh

[sickdsm]

This troll thread is pretty lame considering conservatives have about the same view of GMO as liberals
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Read an article a while back stating that the young (not sure if that was millennial or younger) generation has no problems with GMOs. Science is science. Funny how we see posts on here mocking those who believe in a flat Earth or a man living in the clouds while science says otherwise, but yet a lot of those have no problem believing Big Ag is poisening us one bite at a time when science doesn't agree with them.

[spurraider21]

yeah anti gmo stuff is close to the same level as anti vax people

[Chris]

yeah anti gmo stuff is close to the same level as anti vax people

Stunning take 21.

[spurraider21]

Stunning take 21.
yeah they're equally stupid. i just say "close to the same level" because anti vax movement is much more directly harmful

[boutons_deux]

the problem with GMO shit is not necessarily the GMO shit itself, but Monsanto, etc selling 100 tons of chemicals annually to poison air, land, water, people.

This anti-GMO is always ignored by pro-GMO assholes.

GMO is meant not to improve crops, nutrition, etc, it's ONLY to enslave farmers to maintaining/increasing Monsanto, etc profits.

It's akin to rentier capitalism, in that farmers are forced to "rent" their GMO crop output to Monsanto, etc. iow, farmers can't get to their crops without going through perennial rent paid to Monsanto.

[spurraider21]

there are always issues with monopolization. that's different than something being inherently bad about gmo's

your concern about the current economic model of the gmo industry should be separated from the unfounded health paranoia

[sickdsm]

the problem with GMO shit is not necessarily the GMO shit itself, but Monsanto, etc selling 100 tons of chemicals annually to poison air, land, water, people.

This anti-GMO is always ignored by pro-GMO assholes.

GMO is meant not to improve crops, nutrition, etc, it's ONLY to enslave farmers to maintaining/increasing Monsanto, etc profits.

It's akin to rentier capitalism, in that farmers are forced to "rent" their GMO crop output to Monsanto, etc. iow, farmers can't get to their crops without going through perennial rent paid to Monsanto.





Perfect example of how someone can talk out of there ass, make up shit, and spread propganda. I LITERALLY just talked to my neighbor who is growing non GMO soybeans. He is throwing the kitchen sink in on chemicals since nothing will kill weeds in the one they are up. Literally three times the cocktail you could hey by with GMO beans. Pretty standard protocol tbh.

Roundup soybeans are off patent. Monsanto does not collect a dime off the original beans. People are pulling them out of the bin and planting then.


And do I REALLY even need to dissect your comment about GMOS are meant only to enslave?

[boutons_deux]

Perfect example of how someone can talk out of there ass, make up shit, and spread propganda. I LITERALLY just talked to my neighbor who is growing non GMO soybeans. He is throwing the kitchen sink in on chemicals since nothing will kill weeds in the one they are up. Literally three times the cocktail you could hey by with GMO beans. Pretty standard protocol tbh.

Roundup soybeans are off patent. Monsanto does not collect a dime off the original beans. People are pulling them out of the bin and planting then.


And do I REALLY even need to dissect your comment about GMOS are meant only to enslave?

Monsanto, Syngenta, Bayer are continually tweaking their poison formulas, "stacks" to obtain new patents, or extend old ones, just like BigPharma does.

show us where BigAg, and farmers are not enslaved forever to Monsanto/BigChem

[Chris]

How many countries have banned Monsanto?

[spurraider21]

How many countries have banned Monsanto?
globalist government regulation good now

[Chris]

How many?

[boutons_deux]

Pesticide makers’ representatives want more poisons in our food

Campaign contributions buy a lot of agriculture committee votes

The proposed farm bill couldnullify bans by Arkansas and other states on dicamba, the pesticide that damaged an estimated 3.6 million acres of soybeans (https://ipm.missouri.edu/IPCM/2017/10/final_report_dicamba_injured_soybean/) across the country.

The House Agriculture Committee (https://agriculture.house.gov/) whose members have received more than $1 million in campaign contributions from the pesticide industry since 2012, (http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/news/press_releases/2018/farm-bill-and-pesticides-04-12-2018.php) approved the bill, H.R. 2, (https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/2) on a voice vote. Rep. Mike Conaway (https://conaway.house.gov/), R-Texas, the committee chairman (https://agriculture.house.gov/about/chairman-conaway.htm)and the recipient of $117,000 from the pesticide industry (http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/news/press_releases/2018/farm-bill-and-pesticides-04-12-2018.php) and its trade association, CropLife America, (http://www.croplifeamerica.org/our-story/) hopes to bring the bill to the full House in May.

“Part of this process on timing on the floor will be dictated by how well I’m able to sell this (https://www.politico.com/newsletters/morning-agriculture/2018/04/19/conaway-the-farm-bill-salesman-176483) to my colleagues,” Conaway said.
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Erik Olson (https://www.nrdc.org/experts/erik-d-olson) of the Natural Resources Defense Council (https://www.nrdc.org/about) said the bill would overturn Supreme Court rulings and prohibit local governments (https://www.nrdc.org/experts/mae-wu/hyper-partisan-house-farm-bill-should-be-plowed-under) from adopting pesticide laws that are more protective than federal rules.

“It appears to be retroactive,” said Olson, director of the council’s health program.

Dicamba has been around for decades, (http://harvestpublicmedia.org/post/dicamba-has-been-around-years-why-would-it-now-be-causing-problems) but its use was limited because the chemical evaporates easily, particularly at higher temperatures, (https://crops.extension.iastate.edu/blog/bob-hartzler/factors-influencing-dicamba-volatility) and drifts, damaging plants in field that have not been sprayed with the chemical.

In 1974, another pesticide, Roundup, (https://monsanto.com/app/uploads/2017/06/back_history.pdf) containing glyphosate, (https://www.epa.gov/ingredients-used-pesticide-products/glyphosate) was introduced and became one of the world’s most widely used pesticides. That overuse led to weeds like pigweed (https://geneticliteracyproject.org/2018/04/24/superweeds-how-pigweed-palmer-amaranth-developed-resistance-herbicide-glyphosate-and-why-the-news-isnt-all-bad/) becoming resistant. (https://weedscience.missouri.edu/publications/gwc-1.pdf)

Three chemical companies, Monsanto, (https://monsanto.com/company/media/statements/dicamba/)DowDuPont (http://www.dupont.com/products-and-services/crop-protection/soybean-protection/press-releases/dicamba-herbicide.html) and BASF, (https://agriculture.basf.com/us/en/Crop-Protection/Engenia.html) developed what they claimed were “low-volatility” (https://www.agriculture.com/crops/pesticides/volatility-from-new-formulations-drives-some-dicamba-damage-say-university-weed) versions of dicamba that didn’t evaporate so easily. Monsanto genetically altered soybeans (https://www.agriculture.com/crops/soybeans/monsanto-expects-its-dicamba-tolerant-seeds-on-40-of-us-soy-acres) and cotton to better tolerate dicamba, an approach it had also used for Roundup.

In 2017, farmers planted dicamba-tolerant crops on 26 million acres, (https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2017/10/26/559733837/monsanto-and-the-weed-scientists-not-a-love-story) but the new versions of dicamba also drifted, damaging neighboring soybean fields, vegetables and orchards. The worst damage was in Arkansas, Missouri and Tennessee. (https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2017/10/26/559733837/monsanto-and-the-weed-scientists-not-a-love-story)

https://www.salon.com/2018/05/12/pesticide-makers-representatives-want-more-poisons-in-our-food_partner/

Assholes proving themselves, yet again, as assholes by defending BigChem poisoning of the planet for profit

Is nutrition better? the planet healtheir? is crop output better? due to BigChem?

[spurraider21]

How many?
i dont know that any country has banned Monsanto

some countries have bans on cultivating GMO crops generally (not specific to monsanto)... and most of those countries still allow those same GMO crops to be imported

[spurraider21]

as far as i'm aware, countries that have bans on both cultivating AND importing gmo's include:

algeria, bhutan, kergyzstan, madagascar, peru, russia, venezuela, zimbabwe

[sickdsm]

Monsanto, Syngenta, Bayer are continually tweaking their poison formulas, "stacks" to obtain new patents, or extend old ones, just like BigPharma does.

show us where BigAg, and farmers are not enslaved forever to Monsanto/BigChem
Uhhhh, the neighbor I just referenced that is growing non GMO sems pretty non enslaved......

Two years ago I grew non GMO corn and beans......



The stacks that they are introducing is because Extend beans (dicba resistant) work great but the old chemical dicamba is prone to volotization. Meaning up to a week or two after it is applied the chemical basically rises back up and drifts. By tweaking the inert part of the chemical they are hoping to make it volotization less. Not changing the active ingredient part of it.

The stacking of traits (Roundup, liberty, extend, enlist) is actually one of the best ideas ever. Dicamba volitizes when it's hot. Liberty works great when it's hot, poor when it's cool.


Spray dicamba early in the year. Come back later in the summer and spray with Liberty mixed with some Roundup for grass control. Change it up with Enlist (2 4 D). Weeds get different model of action, they never get a chance to become resistant.

[boutons_deux]

Uhhhh, the neighbor I just referenced that is growing non GMO sems pretty non enslaved......



your anecdotes are meaningless, useless.

BigChem's enormous profits from poisoning the planet aren't

[AaronY]

This troll thread is pretty lame considering conservatives have about the same view of GMO as liberals
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Should have pulled this quote too "There are no statistically significant differences on the safety of eating GM foods between Republicans and those who lean to the Republican Party as compared with Democrats and those who lean to the Democratic Party. Nor are there differences on this issue among political or ideological groups."

[spurraider21]

booboo and chris, shoulder to shoulder

[AaronY]

booboo and chris, shoulder to shoulder
We finally found something stupid enough to unite them

[spurraider21]

i dont know that any country has banned Monsanto

some countries have bans on cultivating GMO crops generally (not specific to monsanto)... and most of those countries still allow those same GMO crops to be imported


as far as i'm aware, countries that have bans on both cultivating AND importing gmo's include:

algeria, bhutan, kergyzstan, madagascar, peru, russia, venezuela, zimbabwe
do you have any information to the contrary, Chris

I assume you asked "how many countries have banned monsanto" as a rhetorical question, as you already had an answer in mind. let me know if i'm mistaken somewhere. it's quite possible i have bad info

[Chris]

I'm not going to argue the evils of the Monsanto corporation or GMO's. They are well documented.

[spurraider21]

I'm not going to argue the evils of the Monsanto corporation or GMO's. They are well documented.
im just asking about your specific question of "what countries have banned monsanto"

was there anything inaccurate in my responses?

[spurraider21]

also,

:lol well documented
:lol everybody knows
:lol it's common knowledge

that's been your go-to substitute for verifying claims

[monosylab1k]

We finally found something stupid enough to unite them

:lol

[Spurminator]

Chris' opposition to Monsanto is one of the more unexpected things I've read here. I guess Donald hasn't tweeted his support for them yet.

[sickdsm]

your anecdotes are meaningless, useless.

BigChem's enormous profits from poisoning the planet aren't
You mean ancedotes like "Gmos aren't for improving health or crop, they are only for enslaving farmers"

Or how about when you said farmers are raping and enslaving migrant workers on the norm?

Typical bou. Ignores the rest of my response. I'd stay and offer more wisdom but I gotta get going. Been a while since I raped any workers. The supervisor had the flu last week so his stamina is low. Gotta keep up the status quo. After all, I'm enslaved to Monsanto and they said I need to pump my rape numbers up, those are rookie numbers.

[Chris]

So edgy, just like Tyler Durden.

[AaronY]

I'm not going to argue the evils of the Monsanto corporation or GMO's. They are well documented.
inb4 the thomaspayne1774GMOsareevil.com links or zerohedge.com/globalist/GMOs section links

[spurraider21]

nah. waiting for natural news links.

[AaronY]

nah. waiting for natural news links.
I dont think he reads them hippie links thats for libtards.

[boutons_deux]

You mean ancedotes like "Gmos aren't for improving health or crop, they are only for enslaving farmers"

Or how about when you said farmers are raping and enslaving migrant workers on the norm?



look up the definition of anecdote

then show us, and not from BigChem scientist whores, where GMO chemicals improve the nutrition and/or yield of GMO shit.

you said farmers raping crop workers "on the norm", I didn't

[spurraider21]

I dont think he reads them hippie links thats for libtards.
but that site is anti gmo and anti vax

[AaronY]

look up the definition of anecdote

then show us, and not from BigChem scientist whores, where GMO chemicals improve the nutrition and/or yield of GMO shit.

you said farmers raping crop workers "on the norm", I didn't
National Institutes of Health pubmed and all the major universities of the US whose studies find them generally safe are in on it too, huh?

[AaronY]

National Institutes of Health pubmed and all the major universities of the US whose studies find them generally safe are in on it too, huh?
Dont get me wrong it has the stupid part right but the anti-liberal pro-business aspects of his mind wouldnt like it maybe

[sickdsm]

look up the definition of anecdote

then show us, and not from BigChem scientist whores, where GMO chemicals improve the nutrition and/or yield of GMO shit.

you said farmers raping crop workers "on the norm", I didn't

an·ec·dote
ˈanəkˌdōt/Submit
noun
a short and amusing or interesting story about a real incident or person.


Bou going full retard here. Or are you admitting to making it up?

Gives two examples per definition.



You stated an opinion contrary to scientific fact. You show us. You'll just say BigChem is paying them anyway.......


Farm work is hard, hazardous (chemicals), and employers underpay hours, steal wages, rape the workers, or let supervisor rape them. . On the norm implied......

[AaronY]

Chris got a new champion

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DeN7zk9U0AAhyOm?format=jpg

[AaronY]

See us globalists get the pins for 1/6th the price and can afford 10x as much fruits and vegetables.

We must be stopped

[ElNono]

Chris got a new champion

woha woha, hold up a second... is this guy american? looks like he had a lot of sunburn...

[AaronY]

woha woha, hold up a second... is this guy american? looks like he had a lot of sunburn...
I dunno but I will assume he talks a lot of shit about people from his native country sneaking in here and their culture since they vote democrat and so conservatives love that. Just like they love nothing more than a black who goes around shittiing on the black community and saying it has a plantation mentality

[koriwhat]

I dunno but I will assume he talks a lot of shit about people from his native country sneaking in here and their culture since they vote democrat and so conservatives love that. Just like they love nothing more than a black who goes around shittiing on the black community and saying it has a plantation mentality

lmao demoKKKrats

[AaronY]

lmao demoKKKrats
Pretty sneaky of them KKK dems to put a black guy in charge for 8 years to throw people off their racist anti-black ways

blackguypointstohead.jpeg

[dabom]

woha woha, hold up a second... is this guy american? looks like he had a lot of sunburn...

:lol

[Clipper Nation]

Chris' opposition to Monsanto is one of the more unexpected things I've read here. I guess Donald hasn't tweeted his support for them yet.
Wait, you're surprised that he's believing a retarded conspiracy?

[Spurminator]

Wait, you're surprised that he's believing a retarded conspiracy?

Chris' belief in a conspiracy typically derives from his loyalty to the team. Given that the Evil Monsanto narrative is usually favored by the Left, it's surprising that he would go against type.

[AaronY]

Chris' belief in a conspiracy typically derives from his loyalty to the team. Given that the Evil Monsanto narrative is usually favored by the Left, it's surprising that he would go against type.
If you read this thread both ideologies/parties distrust GMOs

[Chris]

Chris' belief in a conspiracy typically derives from his loyalty to the team. Given that the Evil Monsanto narrative is usually favored by the Left, it's surprising that he would go against type.

lol you don't anything about me

[Spurminator]

lol you don't anything about me

You're right, I should not have given you the benefit of the doubt that you might have a rational viewpoint on GMOs.

From now on I will just assume that you are scared of whatever wild conspiracy is being pushed (except those that have not been opposed by Posobiec, Shapiro, Cernovich or Trump - because Team over Belief.)

[koriwhat]

Pretty sneaky of them KKK dems to put a black guy in charge for 8 years to throw people off their racist anti-black ways

blackguypointstohead.jpeg

lol the dems didn't put obama in place... a ton of us did given we were sick of the alternative and the past admins(regimes) which all ended up being a thorn on the same stem anyhow. most did the same this go around too but you didn't get the person you wanted.

besides all that jazz, keep dismissing the demoKKKrats history. i know how yall like to bring up history unless it impedes yalls agenda/narrative.

[Spurminator]

If you read this thread both ideologies/parties distrust GMOs

I don't know that "Monsanto=GMO's" is a universal association. Each of those things can cause a kneejerk reaction even with people who don't even have a basic awareness of what they are. I would speculate the poll would show different results if it asked about Monsanto specifically, instead of GMO's.

This is, of course, anecdotal. I just haven't seen Monsanto opposition in conservative media the way I've seen it in liberal media.

[AaronY]

I don't know that "Monsanto=GMO's" is a universal association. Each of those things can cause a kneejerk reaction even with people who don't even have a basic awareness of what they are. I would speculate the poll would show different results if it asked about Monsanto specifically, instead of GMO's.

This is, of course, anecdotal. I just haven't seen Monsanto opposition in conservative media the way I've seen it in liberal media.
libtards are more vocal about GMOs since the hippy/greenpeace contingent is there but conservatives dislike them too. I would guess from the distrust of science and the "back in my day food was all natural" type of derpiness

[Spurminator]

It's ignorance of the science too. "Genetically Modified" just has a connotation where I can understand how people, given no other information, might go in with a negative view.

[AaronY]

lol you don't anything about me
In his defense youre a deep, complex guy and its hard to pin you down

[Spurminator]

:lol

[Chris]

1028048996261093376

[boutons_deux]

5000 more cases filed against totally evil Monsanto

[sickdsm]

1028048996261093376
Still one of the safest chemicals I've ever sprayed. Too bad it doesn't work very food anymore. Trying to ban Roundup is like getting to get rid of horses and carriages in 2018.

[Chris]

Still one of the safest chemicals I've ever sprayed. Too bad it doesn't work very food anymore. Trying to ban Roundup is like getting to get rid of horses and carriages in 2018.

1055594025883975680

[spurraider21]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovKw6YjqSfM

[Chris]

^that will never get old :lol

[boutons_deux]

I don't know that "Monsanto=GMO's" is a universal association.

... because most people are fucking uninformed, disengaged, and they know they are powerless to stop BigCorp even if they engaged.

BigChem pushes, designs GMO, and BigCHem is the overwhelming main pusher, because GMO crops are designed specifically to withstand poisoning by BigChem.

iow, poisoning the planet for profit, for unendingly amassing Capital for Capitalists.

[Winehole23]

Bayer's buyout of Monsanto has been an epic self-immolation, largely because of Roundup litigation

Federal Judge Nixes Proposed Monsanto Glysophate Settlement, Deepening Black Hole for Bayer (https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2021/05/federal-judge-nixes-proposed-monsanto-glysophate-settlement-deepening-black-hole-for-bayer.html)

Bayer bought Monsanto, despite its known glysophate litigation risks, as a poison pill, to make Bayer too big, and by loading up the company with a lot of debt to finance an “all cash” offer to avoid shareholder approval, too leveraged to be an attractive target to even larger companies on the prowl.


The poison pill part worked out even better than any of the Bayer executives could possibly have anticipated. Bayer has been widely deemed to be the worst deal of all time, with the $63 billion purchase price effectively going poof in the reduction of Bayer’s stock price as consumer lawsuits started piling up. Bayer’s board and management were castigated in an unheard-of successful vote of no confidence by Bayer’s German investors. The gross misconduct of Bayer’s management and board has also produced a novel and potentially deadly lawsuit, which we described in Devastating Lawsuit Targets Bank of America, Credit Suisse, and Bayer Board Members and Executives Over Disastrous Monsanto Acquisition (https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2020/08/devastating-lawsuit-targets-bank-of-america-credit-suisse-and-bayer-board-members-and-executives-over-disastrous-monsanto-acquisition.html).


Even more bizarrely, Bayer hasn’t changed its strategy for selling Roundup one bit. It has not only not taken it off the market or attempted to reformulate it, but it hasn’t even toughened up the warnings on its labels, apparently believing that doing so would be an admission of guilt. So Monsanto is continuing to rack up even more liability via its refusal to change course.


Her latest post (https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2021/05/9th-circuit-upholds-25-million-judgement-against-monsanto-for-glyphosate-liability.html), on how the second Roundup case to go to appeal, described how a three judge panel in the 9th Circuit upheld a lower-court decision in Hardeman v. Monsanto, which awarded $25 million to plaintiff Edwin Hardeman. He’d argued that his non-Hodgkins lymphoma was the result of exposure to Monsanto’s herbicide Roundup, whose active ingredient is glysophate. A jury had awarded Hardeman nearly $5.3 million in compensatory damages and $75 million in punitive damages, which the court cut to $20 million.


Not only was the loss another blow to Monsanto, but two elements of the ruling were particularly damaging to the chemical company’s prospects. One was rejecting Monsanto’s argument that the WHO finding that glysophate was a probable carcinogen to be presented as evidence since the FDA had made no such determination. Second was to reject Monsanto’s argument that its labeling met applicable Federal standards (the case had been argued using more stringent California rules). affirmation of the reasonableness of the punitive damages.

[boutons_deux]

Pleased to see BigChem screw itself, still doesn't pay for the decades of damage to people and environment.

otoh, their partner in the poisonous BigChem gang, 3M, continues unsued, so far.

Now that the (Biden) EPA is targeting 3M's PFOA/PFAS (targeting NEVER was going to happen from Trash's EPA kakistocrats), 100s of cities are finding that forever-poison in their water.

Guess who gets to pay for removing it? yep, 3M's "external costs" dumped on water consumers.

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Tests Find More Than 200 Chemicals in Newborn Umbilical Cord Blood

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/newborn-babies-chemicals-exposure-bpa/

[Millennial_Messiah]

Pleased to see BigChem screw itself, still doesn't pay for the decades of damage to people and environment.

otoh, their partner in the poisonous BigChem gang, 3M, continues unsued, so far.

Now that the (Biden) EPA is targeting 3M's PFOA/PFAS (targeting NEVER was going to happen from Trash's EPA kakistocrats), 100s of cities are finding that forever-poison in their water.

Guess who gets to pay for removing it? yep, 3M's "external costs" dumped on water consumers.

====

Tests Find More Than 200 Chemicals in Newborn Umbilical Cord Blood

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/newborn-babies-chemicals-exposure-bpa/
Similac is another problem. I think that stuff is poison and causes cancer and suppresses brain development.