Active shooter at school outside of Houston

[ducks]

My dad killed elk deer moose big horn sheep

[Pavlov]

And yet, you never learned English.

[Chris]

Where should teachers keep the class gun?

Somewhere thats easily accessible for the teacher but entirely unaccessible for the student.

[Chris]

And yet, you never learned English.

Shaming someone who uses ESL.

A low point in your career.

[Pavlov]

Shaming someone who uses ESL.

A low point in your career.:lol you think ducks is an immigrant?

:rollin

[Chris]

:lol you think ducks is an immigrant?

:rollin

Why would you come to that conclusion?

[ducks]

And yet, you never learned English.

yet I am married over 20 years to same woman and am not on food stamps and have 2 houses
and a good job
and my wife does not work outside the home.

[Pavlov]

Why would you come to that conclusion?OK, why are you saying he's using ESL, Chris?

Explain.

[Pavlov]

yet I am married over 20 years to same woman and am not on food stamps and have 2 houses
and a good job
and my wife does not work outside the home.So why did you never learn English?

[Chris]

OK, why are you saying he's using ESL, Chris?

Explain.

That's called logic.

[ducks]

my writing skills are bad I realize that.
it is not easy for me but computers are easy for me. Each person has something they are good at.
You are not great at everything are you?

[Pavlov]

That's called logic.Explain your logic, Chris.

How did you reach that conclusion?

[monosylab1k]

Somewhere thats easily accessible for the teacher but entirely unaccessible for the student.

Such as?

[monosylab1k]

They use gun that school issues them

So each school will have a stockpile of substitute teacher guns? Where are they keeping them? How expensive is this going to be? Who is paying for it? How are they keeping them out of students hands?

[Chris]

Explain your logic, Chris.

How did you reach that conclusion?

That should be rather obvious. Bad spelling and sentence structure usually means translator or ESL. It's an easy deduction that shouldn't need explanation. It's not infallible as we see here so congratulations there I guess.

[Pavlov]

That should be rather obvious. Bad spelling and sentence structure usually means translator or ESL. It's an easy deduction that shouldn't need explanation. It's not infallible as we see here so congratulations there I guess.That usually means someone who wasn't born in the US which means immigrant.

[Chris]

That usually means someone who wasn't born in the US which means immigrant.

I didn't accuse ducks of being an immigrant, that was your logic.

[Pavlov]

I didn't accuse ducks of being an immigrant, that was your logic.You accused him of using ESL but being a native born American?

Make yourself clear for once, Chris.

[Chris]

You accused him of using ESL but being a native born American?

Make yourself clear for once, Chris.

You can be born in the U.S. and still use ESL. Surely you can grasp this?

[Pavlov]

You can be born in the U.S. and still use ESL. Surely you can grasp this?Is it more likely for a native born citizen to be in an ESL class or an immigrant, Chris?

[ducks]

A total of 50 active shooter incidents occurred in the United States in 2016 and 2017; of those 50, 10 involved the shooters being confronted by citizens. Of those ten, four were stopped by an armed citizen who stopped the shooter. The FBI report states, “Armed and unarmed citizens engaged the shooter in 10 incidents. They safely and successfully ended the shootings in eight of those incidents. Their selfless actions likely saved many lives. The enhanced threat posed by active shooters and the swiftness with which active shooter incidents unfold support the importance of preparation by law enforcement officers and citizens alike.”

[ducks]

The FBI defined an active shooter as one or more individuals actively engaged in killing or attempting to kill people in a populated area. The FBI writes, “The active aspect of the definition inherently implies that both law enforcement personnel and citizens have the potential to affect the outcome of the event based on their responses to the situation.”

[Fabbs]

You can be born in the U.S. and still use ESL. Surely you can grasp this?
RumpHumper owned for 99,999th time. :lol

[TDMVPDPOY]

citizen arrest, if u fail and end up being another number victim...do u get compensation or the govt will just lol, life insurance company will find a clause to backout from paying up ur policy?

[Chris]

RumpHumper owned for 99,999th time. :lol

:lol

[Pavlov]

A total of 50 active shooter incidents occurred in the United States in 2016 and 2017; of those 50, 10 involved the shooters being confronted by citizens. Of those ten, four were stopped by an armed citizen who stopped the shooter. The FBI report states, “Armed and unarmed citizens engaged the shooter in 10 incidents. They safely and successfully ended the shootings in eight of those incidents. Their selfless actions likely saved many lives. The enhanced threat posed by active shooters and the swiftness with which active shooter incidents unfold support the importance of preparation by law enforcement officers and citizens alike.”How many passive shooter incidents in that period?

[Chris]

998385685567606785

[Fabbs]

citizen arrest, if u fail and end up being another number victim...do u get compensation or the govt will just lol, life insurance company will find a clause to backout from paying up ur policy?
https://scontent.fsan1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/12279099_871340979654092_3193878629835753911_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=0&oh=f835dbb7913ac6fefa9288b75ffc47a4&oe=5B91E33D

[DMC]

A total of 50 active shooter incidents occurred in the United States in 2016 and 2017; of those 50, 10 involved the shooters being confronted by citizens. Of those ten, four were stopped by an armed citizen who stopped the shooter. The FBI report states, “Armed and unarmed citizens engaged the shooter in 10 incidents. They safely and successfully ended the shootings in eight of those incidents. Their selfless actions likely saved many lives. The enhanced threat posed by active shooters and the swiftness with which active shooter incidents unfold support the importance of preparation by law enforcement officers and citizens alike.”

Had that cop in Florida been inside the building instead of outside, with his life on the line, he would no doubt have taken action. When you have safety of choice quite often you'll not enter the fray. Most victims don't have a choice. It would be nice to have a choice. 2nd to that would be to have a way to defend yourself. But let's dump everything on the hope that we can rid the world of the means to attack instead of preparing ourselves to defend against it. History is obviously on our side.

[DMC]

Shaming someone who uses ESL.

A low point in your career.

You need to do more research on his career obviously.

[Spurtacular]

You can be born in the U.S. and still use ESL. Surely you can grasp this?
Pavlov

:lol Getting caught being assumptive. Par.

[DMC]

Again, not my point. The fact that you can look somebody up on wikipedia does not make them a household name.

Never said he was a household name. Do you think this guy didn't research mass shootings and bomb building because he idolized those who committed similar crimes?

One only needs to look back to people like the Unabomber to see that, if you kill enough people, you'll become famous and a movie will be made about you. That will show everyone who thought you were a loser that you meant business and they shouldn't have fucked with you. I mean, they wish they didn't fuck with that loser in Florida, right?

[DMC]

Ritalin doesn’t kill people, people kill people.

Technically true, although some medications have unknown side effect that can indeed kill someone, the pill has to be taken first.

[Pavlov]

Pavlov

:lol Getting caught being assumptive. Par.Chris is assuming he's ESL.

:lol

[DMC]

Truth is Ducks shows humility by admitting he has a problem with writing. Pavlov saw that humility and didn't know how to act. Outclassed by Ducks.

[TDMVPDPOY]

lol blaming videos game and abortion, broken families with no father figure...da fuck?

how much is NRA worth compared to FPS video games genre per year?

[DMC]

It matters less why people are doing this than how we can protect children from it. 300 million people of vastly different cultural upbringing, mindset, background, disposition, all with the potential to do harm. Its amazing you cannot take a nail file on an airplane but you can carry a fucking long gun into a school because no one wants to be searched.

[Chris]

You need to do more research on his career obviously.

Yeah that was generous.

[Pavlov]

Truth is Ducks shows humility by admitting he has a problem with writing. Pavlov saw that humility and didn't know how to act. Outclassed by Ducks.
Truth is he never said he was ESL tbh.

:lol DMC saying anything about humility.

Looking forward to your first take.

[Blake]

And yet, you never learned English.

:lol

[Blake]

my writing skills are bad I realize that.
it is not easy for me but computers are easy for me. Each person has something they are good at.
You are not great at everything are you?

:lol decent grammar, punctuation and some capitalization all of sudden

[Blake]

Truth is Ducks shows humility by admitting he has a problem with writing. Pavlov saw that humility and didn't know how to act. Outclassed by Ducks.

Yeah, dmc preaching about class is pretty rich

[DMC]

Yeah, dmc preaching about class is pretty rich

Like you know wealth

[Blake]

998385685567606785

More knives needed

[Blake]

Like you know wealth

Like you know humility and class

[DMC]

Like you know humility and class

I still have my wife

[spurraider21]

Like you know humility and class


I still have my wife
point proven imho

[Winehole23]

equating class and wealth is crass, but that's a legit take.

class is about excluding people based on more or less arbitrary markers like honorable conduct or income level.

[Blake]

equating class and wealth is crass, but that's a legit take.

Huh?

[Spurminator]

ducks is an idiot but not because of his communication skills, tbh.

[ducks]

so since you do not agree with polictial views you call people idiots
I see

[spurraider21]

so since you do not agree with polictial views you call people idiots
I see
its not about your views. its about how willfully uninformed you are. like your amazon post office thread

[RandomGuy]

shithole TX is full of extreme rightwing assholes, extreme Christian supremacists who elect the Dan Patricks

Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick Suggests Abortion Led to Santa Fe Shooting

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/texas-lt-gov-dan-patrick-suggests-abortion-led-to-santa-fe-shooting/



Anything but too many guns and easy to get weapons.

This is what you get when conservatives get the representatives they want, IMO.

He is setting up a do-nothing commission, so he can look like he gives a shit, and then will do exactly nothing.

[Winehole23]

Huh?strongly implied, post #543

[RandomGuy]

so since you do not agree with polictial views you call people idiots
I see

"A 0.008564% chance if you don't hang out in the hood not planning a crime and not planning on committing suicide. The United States Does Not have a Gun problem."

Uh huh.

What do you mean by "hang out in the hood"?

[Blake]

strongly implied, post #543

K. I'll disagree that it's legit. I think it's ridiculous.

[DMC]

point proven imho

got any good dead wife jokes?

[spurraider21]

got any good dead wife jokes?
a bunch

[DMC]

a bunch

Thats the rumor

[spurraider21]

Thats the rumor
neat

[Blake]

got any good dead wife jokes?

Got any more perspicacious tidbits on humility and class?

[DMC]

Got any more perspicacious tidbits on humility and class?

I think I put both of you in your places. My job here is done.

[thunder]

Like you know humility and class


I still have my wife
:wow

[Blake]

I think I put both of you in your places. My job here is done.

:lol yeah you sure showed us

[Pavlov]

lol declaring victory

[RandomGuy]

got any good dead wife jokes?

Stay classy.

[Spurminator]

so since you do not agree with polictial views you call people idiots
I see

Nope, there are a lot of people I don't agree with that I would never call idiots. Don't be such a victim. Your ignorance is your choice.

[Brazil]

I still have my wife

smh

you are just an animal and a disgusting one

[ducks]

Meghan McCain: Gun Control Wouldn't Stop Texas Shooting

[ducks]

Nope, there are a lot of people I don't agree with that I would never call idiots. Don't be such a victim. Your ignorance is your choice.

You do not know anything about me besides posting here
And I have admitted my writing skills lack but does not mean I am stupid

[Spurminator]

You do not know anything about me besides posting here
And I have admitted my writing skills lack but does not mean I am stupid

I already said your writing skills don't make you stupid. It was on this page of the thread. You replied to it.

Edit: okay, the previous page.

[DMC]

Stay classy.

He knows what I mean.

[DMC]

smh

you are just an animal and a disgusting one

:cry poor cuck

[Brazil]

:cry poor cuck

:vomit:

[RandomGuy]

Meghan McCain: Gun Control Wouldn't Stop Texas Shooting

Everyone with a brain: yes, it would have.

[boutons_deux]

https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/32948981_551594531903421_1735889115183841280_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=0&oh=850e2cecb3f75309225ef77b52932fce&oe=5B93F883

[boutons_deux]

7K pairs of shoes cover Capitol lawn to honor kids killed in shootings since Sandy Hook

http://wlos.com/news/nation-world/shoe-monument-covers-capitol-lawn-representing-children-killed-in-school-shootings

you gun fellators have a LOT of kids' blood on your hands

[ducks]

Everyone with a brain: yes, it would have.
legally he could not have them


gun killings happen all the time where all guns are outlawed

I do not agree with McCain on much but this one thing
and insulting someone that does not agree with you is not classy

[ducks]

7K pairs of shoes cover Capitol lawn to honor kids killed in shootings since Sandy Hook

http://wlos.com/news/nation-world/shoe-monument-covers-capitol-lawn-representing-children-killed-in-school-shootings

you gun fellators have a LOT of kids' blood on your hands



you Hillary supporters more

[boutons_deux]

Hugh Hewitt says guns aren't problem, trench coats are. :lol

[Blake]

you Hillary supporters more

How so

[Spurminator]

gun killings happen all the time where all guns are outlawed

:lol No they don't. Where do you come up with this?

[spurraider21]

:lol No they don't. Where do you come up with this?
probably dailywire

[Blake]

:lol No they don't. Where do you come up with this?

Go easy on him English his not good

[RandomGuy]

legally he could not have them


gun killings happen all the time where all guns are outlawed

legally he could.

No, actually they don't "happen all the time", you slobbering idiot. the data on that is crystal fucking clear. fewer guns = fewer mass shootings, fewest guns = fewest mass shootings

Awfully hard to have mass shootings without the tools to do so.

[RandomGuy]

In response to school shooting in Texas, Hugh Hewitt proposes a ban on trench coats
Hewitt says universal background checks and magazine bans “wouldn’t have any impact”

https://www.mediamatters.org/video/2018/05/21/In-response-to-school-shooting-in-Texas-Hugh-Hewitt-proposes-a-ban-on-trench-coats/220263

Now it's trenchcoats. GMAFB

[boutons_deux]

NRA spokesperson suggests taking money from Planned Parenthood and spending it on more guns in schools (http://theweek.com/speedreads/774514/nra-spokesperson-suggests-taking-money-from-planned-parenthood-spending-more-guns-schools)

http://theweek.com/speedreads/774514/nra-spokesperson-suggests-taking-money-from-planned-parenthood-spending-more-guns-schools

[ducks]

Sounds good
They can spend 30 million in mid terms

[SpursforSix]

In response to school shooting in Texas, Hugh Hewitt proposes a ban on trench coats
Hewitt says universal background checks and magazine bans “wouldn’t have any impact”

https://www.mediamatters.org/video/2018/05/21/In-response-to-school-shooting-in-Texas-Hugh-Hewitt-proposes-a-ban-on-trench-coats/220263

Now it's trenchcoats. GMAFB

Dude...you're one of the worst at taking things out of context and/or believing what you read by your chosen media outlets.

He was directly addressing this situation in regards to background check and magazine bans. They wouldn't have made a difference in this case.
And he was trying to make a point about recognizing patterns with these school shooters and addressing problems before they get to a shooting.
Not seriously proposing a ban on trenchcoats.

But MM pulls out a couple of talking points and you repost without actually researching what said and the context around it.

Of course both sides do this ad nauseam and the truth gets so distorted that anyone objectively trying to listen to news is going to have a tough time.

If you really want to make shit better, then you should abstain from participating in that kind of bullshit.

[ducks]

:lol No they don't. Where do you come up with this?

laugh at what you do not agree with


America was founded on wanting to use guns to fight people

[RandomGuy]

Dude...you're one of the worst at taking things out of context and/or believing what you read by your chosen media outlets.

He was directly addressing this situation in regards to background check and magazine bans. They wouldn't have made a difference in this case.
And he was trying to make a point about recognizing patterns with these school shooters and addressing problems before they get to a shooting.
Not seriously proposing a ban on trenchcoats.

But MM pulls out a couple of talking points and you repost without actually researching what said and the context around it.

Of course both sides do this ad nauseam and the truth gets so distorted that anyone objectively trying to listen to news is going to have a tough time.

If you really want to make shit better, then you should abstain from participating in that kind of bullshit.

It is part and parcel of the excuses that conservatives use all the time to blame everything ELSE but guns, which was the point.

In context:


HEWITT: To the teachers and administrators out there, the trench coat is kind of a giveaway. You might just say, "No more trench coats." The creepy people, make a list, check it twice.

It was a non-sense solution, whether you go with "banning trenchcoats" or "making lists of creepy students".

How seriously do I need to treat nonsense like this? Do tell.

[SpursforSix]

It is part and parcel of the excuses that conservatives use all the time to blame everything ELSE but guns, which was the point.

In context:


It was a non-sense solution, whether you go with "banning trenchcoats" or "making lists of creepy students".

How seriously do I need to treat nonsense like this? Do tell.

He made an idiotic comment but to report that he is proposing a ban on trenchcoats is disingenuous.

[leemajors]

laugh at what you do not agree with


America was founded on wanting to use guns to fight people

what?

[101A]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_massacres_by_death_toll

[RandomGuy]

He made an idiotic comment but to report that he is proposing a ban on trenchcoats is disingenuous.


You might just say, "No more trench coats."

Doesn't seem too far off the mark. Again, why should I take this argument seriously at all? Does it deserve serious treatment, regardless of whether it is "make lists of creepy students" or "no more trench coats".

The person making the argument isn't serious himself. He knows he is saying something disingenuous.

Which is the better response, satire, or a wall of text treating this bullshit like it is worth serious consideration?

[RandomGuy]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_massacres_by_death_toll


This list is incomplete; you can help by expanding it.

You really want to tally casualty counts? Really?

[SpursforSix]

Doesn't seem too far off the mark. Again, why should I take this argument seriously at all? Does it deserve serious treatment, regardless of whether it is "make lists of creepy students" or "no more trench coats".

The person making the argument isn't serious himself. He knows he is saying something disingenuous.

Which is the better response, satire, or a wall of text treating this bullshit like it is worth serious consideration?

Wait...is this another case of you pretending you posted something for a different reason than the obvious?
Are you going to start ignoring questions and asking everyone to think?

[ducks]

some schools have uniforms

have their been school shootings on them?

[RandomGuy]

Doesn't seem too far off the mark. Again, why should I take this argument seriously at all? Does it deserve serious treatment, regardless of whether it is "make lists of creepy students" or "no more trench coats".

The person making the argument isn't serious himself. He knows he is saying something disingenuous.

Which is the better response, satire, or a wall of text treating this bullshit like it is worth serious consideration?


Wait...is this another case of you pretending you posted something for a different reason than the obvious?
Are you going to start ignoring questions and asking everyone to think?

Nope.

Your turn.

Which is the better response, satire, or a wall of text treating this bullshit like it is worth serious consideration?

[SpursforSix]

Nope.

Your turn.

Which is the better response, satire, or a wall of text treating this bullshit like it is worth serious consideration?

The better response it to ignore that shit. It's just noise.

[RandomGuy]

The better response it to ignore that shit. It's just noise.

I disagree. Ignorance like that has to be pointed out for the farce it is. I spent an acronym on it.

[RandomGuy]

The better response it to ignore that shit. It's just noise.

Irony. Shouldn't you be, you know, maybe pointing out solutions? or data?

Give me some non-noise then. Be better than you think I am.

[RandomGuy]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_massacres_by_death_toll

https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/2017/11/06/interpreter-guns/ceb4c2f187acf092064b144facfd60153d517914/chart_totals-Artboard_1.png
X=hundreds of millions of guns, y= mass shootings.

The United States has 270 million guns and had 90 mass shooters from 1966 to 2012.

No other country has more than 46 million guns or 18 mass shooters.

Not hard to see the outlier.

[RandomGuy]

In China, about a dozen seemingly random attacks on schoolchildren killed 25 people between 2010 and 2012. Most used knives; none used a gun.

By contrast, in this same window, the United States experienced five of its deadliest mass shootings, which killed 78 people. Scaled by population, the American attacks were 12 times as deadly.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/07/world/americas/mass-shootings-us-international.html

Guns are the problem. Easy accessibility.

They make the attacks more deadly than they would be otherwise. Is there anyone who really thinks otherwise?

[ducks]

go to hondous no guns allowed

[spurraider21]

go to hondous no guns allowed
wtf are you even talking about

[ducks]

no one is allowed to have guns in hondous
hate the fact guns allowed in usa MOVE THEIR DO NOT TRY TO CHANGE THE USA LAWS

[spurraider21]

no one is allowed to have guns in hondous
hate the fact guns allowed in usa MOVE THEIR DO NOT TRY TO CHANGE THE USA LAWS
wtf is hondous

if you are referring to honduras, where are you getting the idea that no one is allowed to have guns? that's complete bullshit :lol

[ducks]

Honduras "bans citizens from owning guns" and has the "highest homicide rate in the entire world." Switzerland, with a similar population, "requires citizens to own guns" and has the "lowest homicide rate in the entire world."

[SpursforSix]

I disagree. Ignorance like that has to be pointed out for the farce it is. I spent an acronym on it.

Someone saying something stupid while talking? That doesn't equate to ignorance.

You read something on MM which took selected comments out of context with the goal to run down someone on the opposition.
No different than someone on the far right parroting a Fox News story.

Neither really cares about solutions. You've made it clear that you want Trump to fail. Regardless of what it does to the country.

Like it or not, you're part of the problem.

You're the personification of ignorance that has to be pointed out.

[spurraider21]

Honduras "bans citizens from owning guns" and has the "highest homicide rate in the entire world." Switzerland, with a similar population, "requires citizens to own guns" and has the "lowest homicide rate in the entire world."
link?

i'm about 99% sure you got it from a meme or facebook graphic, based on the google results for your quote

https://www.google.com/search?q=Honduras+%22bans+citizens+from+owning+gun s%22+and+has+the+%22highest+homicide+rate+in+the+e ntire+world.%22+Switzerland%2C+with+a+similar+popu lation%2C+%22requires+citizens+to+own+guns%22+and+ has+the+%22lowest+homicide+rate+in+the+entire+worl d.%22&rlz=1C1RQEB_enUS773US773&oq=Honduras+%22bans+citizens+from+owning+guns%22+a nd+has+the+%22highest+homicide+rate+in+the+entire+ world.%22+Switzerland%2C+with+a+similar+population %2C+%22requires+citizens+to+own+guns%22+and+has+th e+%22lowest+homicide+rate+in+the+entire+world.%22&aqs=chrome..69i57.181j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

[Blake]

go to hondous no guns allowed


wtf are you even talking about

He has a writing problem LEAVE ALONE HIM

[AaronY]

Honduras "bans citizens from owning guns" and has the "highest homicide rate in the entire world." Switzerland, with a similar population, "requires citizens to own guns" and has the "lowest homicide rate in the entire world."
Awesome now do Japan

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/n-gundeaths-g-20160614-870x609.jpg

[AaronY]

Japan will certainly be headed to a totalitarian shithole ASAP since they dont have guns to defend themselves tho

[Chucho]

Someone saying something stupid while talking? That doesn't equate to ignorance.

You read something on MM which took selected comments out of context with the goal to run down someone on the opposition.
No different than someone on the far right parroting a Fox News story.

Neither really cares about solutions. You've made it clear that you want Trump to fail. Regardless of what it does to the country.

Like it or not, you're part of the problem.

You're the personification of ignorance that has to be pointed out.
+5.

[CosmicCowboy]

Everyone with a brain: yes, it would have.

What law exactly would have prevented the shooting? He used a revolver and a shotgun. Neither were "high capacity" or "assault" weapons. It was already illegal for a minor to be in possession of a pistol. Illegal to take guns to a school. Obviously illegal to kill people. What new law would have prevented it?

[DMC]

some schools have uniforms

have their been school shootings on them?

Have there been any school shootings in schools that have a bulldog as a mascot?

[DMC]

What law exactly would have prevented the shooting? He used a revolver and a shotgun. Neither were "high capacity" or "assault" weapons. It was already illegal for a minor to be in possession of a pistol. Illegal to take guns to a school. Obviously illegal to kill people. What new law would have prevented it?

The only logical conclusion from his stance is that the father should not have been allowed to own guns in the first place. None of these liberals want to step over that line of banning guns because it's the death sentence for them. They seem very adamant about enacting new legislation but they aren't willing to risk their footing by make the tough choices. That's why they're the Liberals.

[DMC]

Someone saying something stupid while talking? That doesn't equate to ignorance.

You read something on MM which took selected comments out of context with the goal to run down someone on the opposition.
No different than someone on the far right parroting a Fox News story.

Neither really cares about solutions. You've made it clear that you want Trump to fail. Regardless of what it does to the country.

Like it or not, you're part of the problem.

You're the personification of ignorance that has to be pointed out.

Yeah but he's saving money for beer so that's what counts.

[Blake]

The only logical conclusion from his stance is that the father should not have been allowed to own guns in the first place. None of these liberals want to step over that line of banning guns because it's the death sentence for them. They seem very adamant about enacting new legislation but they aren't willing to risk their footing by make the tough choices. That's why they're the Liberals.

Trump liberal now

[RandomGuy]

go to hondous no guns allowed

964534393464283137

[CosmicCowboy]

964534393464283137

I certainly understand this dad being sad and angry, but again...what new law would have stopped the shooting?

[RandomGuy]

Someone saying something stupid while talking? That doesn't equate to ignorance.

You read something on MM which took selected comments out of context with the goal to run down someone on the opposition.
No different than someone on the far right parroting a Fox News story.

Neither really cares about solutions. You've made it clear that you want Trump to fail. Regardless of what it does to the country.

Like it or not, you're part of the problem.

You're the personification of ignorance that has to be pointed out.


'You know why I do it? I do it to discredit you all and demean you all so that when you write negative stories about me no one will believe you.'

Sucker.

Sorry if you are all butthurt that conservatives are shitty people. Not much I can do about that, whatever makes you feel better about it, knock yourself out.

The fact that you might not want to acknowledge the damage the Trump cult is doing to the country is the problem.

[RandomGuy]

I certainly understand this dad being sad and angry, but again...what new law would have stopped the shooting?

Maybe a loan form the Chinese government would have done it.

oh wait, that would have solved the problem of Chinese jobs threatened because they were skirting the Iran sanctions.

Sorry, wrong thread.

[ducks]

laws are out saying no text and driving more kids get killed as a result of cell phones then guns

[ducks]

I bet more people die in drunk driving accidents then with guns also

why do liberals not want to ban alcohol all together



more die as a result of cancer from tobacoo
why not ban it all liberals!

life is so important we must protect it and make laws so no one will never die

[CosmicCowboy]

Maybe a loan form the Chinese government would have done it.

oh wait, that would have solved the problem of Chinese jobs threatened because they were skirting the Iran sanctions.

Sorry, wrong thread.

Way to duck and dodge and hide.

[ducks]

Way to duck and dodge and hide.

typical liberals they just say stop trump but no solutions to the table

[Blake]

laws are out saying no text and driving more kids get killed as a result of cell phones then guns

So you think we don't need texting while driving laws

[ducks]

964534393464283137


what would he say if his daughter died from changing the station on the car radio when she looked down and over corrected and hit someone head one


ban car radios ?

[ducks]

So you think we don't need texting while driving laws

nope we should just ban cell phones
results too many deaths liberal thinking

[Blake]

I bet more people die in drunk driving accidents then with guns also

why do liberals not want to ban alcohol all together



more die as a result of cancer from tobacoo
why not ban it all liberals!

life is so important we must protect it and make laws so no one will never die

Who wants to ban guns altogether?

[Blake]

nope we should just ban cell phones
results too many deaths liberal thinking

No it's not anyone's thinking

[CosmicCowboy]

Who wants to ban guns altogether?

Apparently RG.

[ducks]

So you think we don't need texting while driving laws

have laws against killing people it does not stop killings
so take away all objects that have ever caused a death ban them

[SpursforSix]

Sucker.

Sorry if you are all butthurt that conservatives are shitty people. Not much I can do about that, whatever makes you feel better about it, knock yourself out.

The fact that you might not want to acknowledge the damage the Trump cult is doing to the country is the problem.

LOL. "butthurt".

You fail to understand (or at least acknowledge) that both the far right and far left are the problem due to their unwillingness to bend from their ingrained mentalities.

[Blake]

Apparently RG.

Link?

[ducks]

I think school uniforms will be a thing soon

it will stop the bullying and kids picking on other kids because some kids wear the expensive clothers and other wear cheap clothes

[spurraider21]

I bet more people die in drunk driving accidents then with guns also

why do liberals not want to ban alcohol all together



more die as a result of cancer from tobacoo
why not ban it all liberals!

life is so important we must protect it and make laws so no one will never die
when was the last time we had a mass murder with the weapon of choice being tobacco and alcohol?

[CosmicCowboy]

Link?
Jeezus...just read the last two pages.

[Blake]

have laws against killing people it does not stop killings
so take away all objects that have ever caused a death ban them

Do you think laws against killing have never, ever prevented or deterred any killing?

[spurraider21]

ban car radios ?


nope we should just ban cell phones
how often are car radios and cell phones used as murder weapons?

[Blake]

Jeezus...just read the last two pages.

Yeah, nowhere did he say he wants to ban all guns. That's just a piss poor reading failure assumption on your part.

[ducks]

trump has not caused the school shooting problem

the liberals are mad at what he says and stands up for himself

the converatives were upset at what the former president did but did not cause issues like the liberals

people are responsible for their own actions
sick of people blaming other people or objects

[Blake]

when was the last time we had a mass murder with the weapon of choice being tobacco and alcohol?

Another Skoal shooting

[ducks]

Do you think laws against killing have never, ever prevented or deterred any killing?yes when they hung people and did not keep them in jail for 30 years after the fact

[Blake]

trump has not caused the school shooting problem

the liberals are mad at what he says and stands up for himself

the converatives were upset at what the former president did but did not cause issues like the liberals

people are responsible for their own actions
sick of people blaming other people or objects

Where's the duck rolling around aimless tweet

[Blake]

yes when they hung people and did not keep them in jail for 30 years after the fact

Oh you mean in the good ole wild west days when everyone had guns?

[ducks]

when was the last time we had a mass murder with the weapon of choice being tobacco and alcohol?


when was the last time a tobacco commercial was on tv
because it was mass murdering people

[Pavlov]

what would he say if his daughter died from changing the station on the car radio when she looked down and over corrected and hit someone head one


ban car radios ?Maybe if the car radio shot her in the head.

[spurraider21]

when was the last time a tobacco commercial was on tv
because it was mass murdering people
do you know what murder means?

[ducks]

Maybe if the car radio shot her in the head.

so only ban things that shoot
got it liberal thinking

I mean people killed people by putting postion in liquid when someone was not looking and they drank it

[ducks]

how often are car radios and cell phones used as murder weapons?

lets see I believe isis uses cell phones all the time

[Pavlov]

so only ban things that shoot
got it liberal thinking

I mean people killed people by putting postion in liquid when someone was not looking and they drank itAt least you moved the goalpost to include actual people.

[Blake]

lets see I believe isis uses cell phones all the time

Lol ducks. So weird.

[spurraider21]

lets see I believe isis uses cell phones all the time
as murder weapons?

[CosmicCowboy]

Yeah, nowhere did he say he wants to ban all guns. That's just a piss poor reading failure assumption on your part.

Apparently poor reading conprehensiob on your part. What law would have prevented the school shooting?

[monosylab1k]

I mean people killed people by putting postion in liquid when someone was not looking and they drank it

:lmao it takes a truly beautiful mind to contruct a sentence like this.

[Blake]

Apparently poor reading conprehensiob on your part. What law would have prevented the school shooting?

Oh because new gun legislation clearly means "ban all guns".

[monosylab1k]

Apparently poor reading conprehensiob on your part. What law would have prevented the school shooting?

What law prevented 9/11? And yet Muslim bans are all the rage.

[CosmicCowboy]

Oh because new gun legislation clearly means "ban all guns".
See post 575. His claim was gun control laws would have prevented the shooting. What gun control laws?

[RandomGuy]

Apparently RG.

Sure.

At this point, I am for that, just to fuck with assholes who worship guns. What a sicko cult, IMO.

What I would be happy with though, is some more common sense solutions.

[RandomGuy]

Apparently poor reading conprehensiob on your part. What law would have prevented the school shooting?

Bullshit logic. "we can't prevent every thing, so we shouldn't do anything"

More stupid reasoning on your part.

[boutons_deux]

"What law would have prevented the school shooting?"

how about a law that says a gun owner is punishable, fine + imprisonment, liable for anybody who commits a crime with his guns?

[CosmicCowboy]

"What law would have prevented the school shooting?"

how about a law that says a gun owner is punishable, fine + imprisonment, liable for anybody who commits a crime with his guns?

Lol good luck with that one boo.

[RandomGuy]

See post 575. His claim was gun control laws would have prevented the shooting. What gun control laws?

Gun control laws prevent some amount of shootings. That is what the evidence shows.

... in the studies that get funded despite the gun lobby's prohibition on federal funding of such things.

Did you know the gun lobby got congress to prohibit funds from going to study gun violence by the CDC?

[monosylab1k]

We can’t stop all unlicensed drivers so let’s abolish drivers licenses.

[RandomGuy]

See post 575. His claim was gun control laws would have prevented the shooting. What gun control laws?

If gun control meant that guns were required, as they are in Japan, to be under lock and key, with annual police inspections.

How many school shootings do they have each year in Japan again, genyus?

[monosylab1k]

If gun control meant that guns were required, as they are in Japan, to be under lock and key, with annual police inspections.

How many school shootings do they have each year in Japan again, genyus?

Yeah, but Japan doesn’t have violent movies or video games, there’s no mental health issues, and people aren’t overworked and stressed out there!

[RandomGuy]

Apparently poor reading conprehensiob on your part. What law would have prevented the school shooting?

"what law would have prevented..."

I guess we should make murder legal by the same logic? I mean if you can't prevent any given murder why have them?

Is that what you are going with?

Or maybe the Chinese government just need to loan the president's real estate developments another few hundred million dollars, so he might do something about it? :rollin

[CosmicCowboy]

We can’t stop all unlicensed drivers so let’s abolish drivers licenses.

Your straw men are as stupid as you are.

[Pavlov]

Yeah, but Japan doesn’t have violent movies or video games, there’s no mental health issues, and people aren’t overworked and stressed out there!

Something vaguely racist about homogeneity incoming.

[RandomGuy]

Yeah, but Japan doesn’t have violent movies or video games, there’s no mental health issues, and people aren’t overworked and stressed out there!

This is the kind of thing that makes me realize how effective gun manufacturing propaganda has been at brainwashing otherwise intelligent people. smh

Confirmation bias and human cognition do the rest. I wish people were a bit more reasonable.

[CosmicCowboy]

"what law would have prevented..."

I guess we should make murder legal by the same logic? I mean if you can't prevent any given murder why have them?

Is that what you are going with?

Or maybe the Chinese government just need to loan the president's real estate developments another few hundred million dollars, so he might do something about it? :rollin
More straw men. A minor in possession of a pistol is illegal. Taking a gun on school grounds is illegal. Murder is illegal. What additional law would have stopped the school shooting?

[ducks]

if dad locked it up into that
https://www.gunsafesnow.com/kodiakk5940ex60.aspx
it is not like son would not have had a key or know the cabination

[monosylab1k]

More straw men. A minor in possession of a pistol is illegal. Taking a gun on school grounds is illegal. Murder is illegal. What additional law would have stopped the school shooting?

I’d make a sarcastic comment about requiring teachers to be armed, but you’re retarded enough to think it’s a good idea.

[ducks]

I’d make a sarcastic comment about requiring teachers to be armed, but you’re retarded enough to think it’s a good idea.

do you think the president should have guards that have guns
I know you think your kid is more important then the current president

what about former presidents.....

[monosylab1k]

Ignore This SignatureThere are roughly 312 million people in the United States. There are Roughly 357 million guns. There are Approximately 32,000 deaths per year from firearms. 60% are Suicides. That is 19,220 3% are Accidental. That is 960. 4% are justified. That is 1,200 33% are Homicides. That is 10,560. 80% of those Homicides are Gang related. That is 8,488. That leaves 1,713 in a society of 312 million people. That gives you a 0.010256410256% chance of death by gun. A 0.008564% chance if you don't hang out in the hood not planning a crime and not planning on committing suicide. The United States Does Not have a Gun problem.

:lmao holy shit

[monosylab1k]

do you think the president should have guards that have guns
I know you think your kid is more important then the current president

Stop obsessing about my children, you will never get to piss on them, you creepy deviant fuck.

[ducks]

Stop obsessing about my children, you will never get to piss on them, you creepy deviant fuck.

I did not even know if you have kids
but nice language

[ducks]

:lmao holy shit

what is so funny about that
like I said if you want to protect lives ban cell phones tobacco alcohol and abortion

[Pavlov]

do you think the president should have guards that have guns
I know you think your kid is more important then the current president

what about former presidents.....Trump isn't guarded by armed schoolteachers.

[ducks]

Trump isn't guarded by armed schoolteachers.

DUH! you use the best to protect the presidet
teachers are not the best IMO


there are some teachers that might not be able to carry guns but they would not have to

teachers that do would have to have a permit and have to be trained

I am for guards to be in classrooms instead

[Pavlov]

DUH! you use the best to protect the presidet
teachers are not the best IMO


there are some teachers that might not be able to carry guns but they would not have to

teachers that do would have to have a permit and have to be trained

I am for guards to be in classrooms insteadI'm fine with just having a couple in the school if they want. Anything more is overkill and wasteful.

[ducks]

I'm fine with just having a couple in the school if they want. Anything more is overkill and wasteful.

2 was in the last one and did not stop it

[Pavlov]

2 was in the last one and did not stop itCan't stop everything.

If your school district can't pay for school supplies, how is it going to pay for thousands of armed guards?

[Blake]

Can't stop everything.

If your school district can't pay for school supplies, how is it going to pay for thousands of armed guards?

Schools can't even pay for proper ESL classes I guess

[Blake]

DUH! you use the best to protect the presidet
teachers are not the best IMO

ducks wants mediocre armed security guards in schools. And he wants a lot of them.

[Blake]

More straw men. A minor in possession of a pistol is illegal. Taking a gun on school grounds is illegal. Murder is illegal. What additional law would have stopped the school shooting?

How do you figure this line of questioning means RG wants a total ban on guns

[RandomGuy]

More straw men. A minor in possession of a pistol is illegal. Taking a gun on school grounds is illegal. Murder is illegal. What additional law would have stopped the school shooting?

Already answered, but in the interest of brevity

"If gun control meant that guns were required, as they are in Japan, to be under lock and key, with annual police inspections."

Additionally we could make it illegal for the president's son-in-law to set up meetings at the White house for the purpose of securing loans to his real estate business. Pretty sure that would do the trick.

[RandomGuy]

How do you figure this line of questioning means RG wants a total ban on guns

I want a total ban on guns. If I could wave a magic wand and get rid of them, I would do so now. I would vote and campaign for a full repeal of the 2nd amendment.

People should be able to have guns, but only under some pretty strict oversight, and the 2nd amendment is being very obviously misinterpreted. If you don't think that is the case, ask any conservative to define to any reasonable degree a 'well regulated militia" and then ask them to discuss original meanings and context under which that was written.

I would though, be willing to compromise on that, for some more solid controls on guns. Gun cultists will have to give a bit in return. I would not accept "nothing".

[RandomGuy]

The GOP’s 'Unbelievably Absurd' Response to Santa Fe


“It speaks to the utter corruption of the party intellectually and morally. To say that this is exclusively about the gun is as stupid as saying it has nothing to do with the gun,” Republican operative Steve Schmidt, who has been consistently critical of his party’s response to gun violence, told me. “Our politics have eradicated the ability to have a rational discussion about most things. Most things, though, are not lethal things. This is a lethal thing.”
Republicans dismayed with their party’s approach to the issue told me that, because of this, attempts to find common ground will become futile. “Simply put, the response to Santa Fe, like Parkland, has been defensive and tone deaf,” said former Republican National Committee chairman Michael Steele. “Our arrogance and tribalism has drowned out the voices of the innocent to the point that it is easier to make excuses for the status quo than it is to protect our children.”

For Schmidt, the GOP’s response to Santa Fe has been “unbelievably absurd,” and contributes to his certainty that the cycle of mass shootings will repeat itself. “Until they change their absolute unwillingness to give any consideration to this national crisis,” he said, “this will only happen again and again.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/05/the-gops-dizzying-response-to-santa-fe/561011



I have yet to see any real workable solutions from any national Republican figure.
They have, as noted here, painted themselves into a corner, driven by the gun manufacturing lobby and the fanatics their propaganda has made.

[CosmicCowboy]

Already answered, but in the interest of brevity

"If gun control meant that guns were required, as they are in Japan, to be under lock and key, with annual police inspections."

Additionally we could make it illegal for the president's son-in-law to set up meetings at the White house for the purpose of securing loans to his real estate business. Pretty sure that would do the trick.

Lets get this clear...you are advocating the police do annual home inspections on 130 million americans?

[Blake]

I want a total ban on guns.

K, he said it now.

[clambake]

a total ban? wtf

[ducks]

yep how dare people eat elk instead they must eat beef and we can make them buy it at the store!

[Spurtacular]

Ruh roh. Is this gonna lead to someone being cucked, Blake?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/praying-the-pain-away-christianity’s-presence-at-santa-fe-high-grows-after-shooting/ar-AAxQyaP?ocid=spartandhp&ffid=gz

[monosylab1k]

734231223002894337

A Trump self-own for every occasion.

[boutons_deux]

Modern-day America perfectly summarized in one soul-crushing tweet (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/5/21/1765943/-Modern-day-America-perfectly-summarized-in-one-soul-crushing-tweet)

Sean T. Collins
✔@theseantcollins
(https://twitter.com/theseantcollins)
https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/998778959553691649/6jcQ9D2N?format=jpg&name=600x314

This is the gofundme for the man with terminal cancer

whose wife had to go back to work to pay for it and

was murdered in school the other day.

https://www.gofundme.com/lung-stem-cell-treatment-for-ipf … (https://t.co/PvsT3Fziar)
8:41 AM - May 20, 2018 (https://twitter.com/theseantcollins/status/998197114650980352)

Cynthia Tisdale was a substitute teacher at Sante Fe High School, where she was murdered last week.

She went back to work as a substitute after her husband was diagnosed with cancer and needed expensive treatments.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/5/21/1765943/-Modern-day-America-perfectly-summarized-in-one-soul-crushing-tweet?detail=emaildkre

[boutons_deux]

Trump ahead of visit with Texas shooting survivors: 'We are going to have a little fun'

"We are going to Dallas, we are going to Houston. We are going to have a little fun today. Thank you very much,"

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/390099-trump-ahead-of-visit-with-texas-shooting-survivors-we-are-going

[da_suns_fan]

See ya next time.

[Thread]

See ya next time.

Hey, da, is that Suns site still up? If so, what's the URL. I can't get in to post, but, I would like to read it. Please.

[da_suns_fan]

http://www.phx-suns.net/

[Thread]

http://www.phx-suns.net/

That's it, da. Thanks!