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Chris
05-19-2018, 03:14 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Peterson

https://jordanbpeterson.com

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The famous Cathy "So you're saying?" Newman debate

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My favorite debate so far. Rebecca (the atheist) gets crushed :tu William Craig is brilliant. It's incredibly long though.


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Older video about why Jordan decided not to be an atheist anymore

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Most recent debate:

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Chris
05-19-2018, 03:15 PM
Nathan89 post your videos here so I can watch them please.

Pavlov
05-19-2018, 03:16 PM
Who?

Chris
05-19-2018, 03:30 PM
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Chris
05-19-2018, 03:35 PM
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Nathan89
05-19-2018, 03:39 PM
I'll post on occasion tbh. The best part about this thread will be discussing the hit pieces. New York Times just had a hit piece the other day and many more will follow.

Nathan89
05-19-2018, 03:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxYimeaoea0

At the 15min mark of the most recent debate she brings up the NYT hit piece and Peterson shakes his head is disgust.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gp3fOBq0DN0

Clip from that same video above.

Michael Eric Dyson calls Peterson a mean mad white man.

Overall not a great debate though.

Nathan89
05-19-2018, 04:15 PM
1:50:15 In the video above she brings up Jordan Peterson talking about women wearing makeup at work to Vice.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsz0DHwzAvc

Here is that video and 5:20 is where that topic is discussed.

Pavlov
05-19-2018, 04:16 PM
I'm going to guess he's aggrieved and white guys are the real victims.

Chris
05-19-2018, 04:29 PM
Michael Eric Dyson calls Peterson a mean mad white man.

Overall not a great debate though.

He tries to win over the audience with jokes like a Jimmy Kimmel. This is a clear distinction between a mind like Jordan who can win over a crowd by connecting the dots constructively. Generally in a conversation or a debate the person who resorts to name calling loses by default imo.

Dyson actually cites LBJ and calls him a great president. :lol

Quadzilla99
05-19-2018, 04:33 PM
This is the incel who wants to ban makeup on women in the workplace?

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Chris
05-19-2018, 04:41 PM
I see incel is the new buzzword insult. Peterson is married dummy. :lol

Nathan89
05-19-2018, 04:43 PM
Generally in a conversation or a debate the person who resorts to name calling loses by default imo.

Dyson actually cites LBJ and calls him a great president. :lol

He'd be right at home on spurstalk tbh

Yeah, the great LBJ :lmao

Nathan89
05-19-2018, 04:44 PM
This is the incel who wants to ban makeup on women in the workplace?

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No, I just posted that vice video.

Chris
05-19-2018, 04:44 PM
He'd be right at home on spurstalk tbh

Yeah, the great LBJ :lmao

My jaw dropped when he said it :lmao

Pavlov
05-19-2018, 04:44 PM
I see incel is the new buzzword insult. Peterson is married dummy. :lolDoesn't mean he's not an incel tbh.

Nathan89
05-19-2018, 04:45 PM
I see incel is the new buzzword insult. Peterson is married dummy. :lol

That fact won't stop them.:lol

Chris
05-19-2018, 04:45 PM
Doesn't mean he's not an incel tbh.

What is your definition of an incel Pavlov?

Pavlov
05-19-2018, 04:47 PM
What is your definition of an incel Pavlov?A person who is involuntarily celibate.

One could easily be married and involuntarily celibate.

Take Dennison, for example.

Pavlov
05-19-2018, 04:49 PM
1:50:15 In the video above she brings up Jordan Peterson talking about women wearing makeup at work to Vice.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsz0DHwzAvc

Here is that video and 5:20 is where that topic is discussed.Wow, this guy really doesn't say much of anything.

Nathan89
05-19-2018, 04:49 PM
BTW the NYT hit piece mentioned Peterson doing interviews in his socks and knowing where the frame is. He did the Vice interview in his socks.

Nathan89
05-19-2018, 04:51 PM
Wow, this guy really doesn't say much of anything.

You don't have to watch.

Chris
05-19-2018, 04:52 PM
A person who is involuntarily celibate.

One could easily be married and involuntarily celibate.

Take Dennison, for example.

An incel is one who is unable to find a romantic or sexual partner even though they desire one. A wife is both a romantic and sexual partner.

I can't believe I had to explain this to you.

Your Trump ding is icing on the cake.

Pavlov
05-19-2018, 04:53 PM
You don't have to watch.I gave him a chance since you guys started a fapping thread.

He really said nothing at all.

:cryWe don't know the rules!:cry

There are laws and most corporate workplaces list their rules. Whining that they don't cover every possible scenario is pretty stupid.

Pavlov
05-19-2018, 04:55 PM
An incel is one who is unable to find a romantic or sexual partner even though they desire one. A wife is both a romantic and sexual partner.

I can't believe I had to explain this to you.

Your Trump ding is icing on the cake.Oh, so all the incels would be fine having a romantic partner but not a sexual one.

And Dennison is an example of both. Any married man could be.

Show me where you got your definition.

Thanks

Nathan89
05-19-2018, 04:55 PM
There is no reason to entertain the incel comment. Dude just picked a hot topic insult.

Nathan89
05-19-2018, 04:58 PM
I gave him a chance since you guys started a fapping thread.

He really said nothing at all.

:cryWe don't know the rules!:cry

There are laws and most corporate workplaces list their rules. Whining that they don't cover every possible scenario is pretty stupid.

Having rules and having good rules are two different things.

Pavlov
05-19-2018, 04:58 PM
There is no reason to entertain the incel comment. Dude just picked a hot topic insult.Petersen is a guru for many incels and other men who want to think of themselves as victims.

Pavlov
05-19-2018, 04:59 PM
Having rules and having good rules are two different things.Who gets to decide which rules are good?

You?

Petersen?

Incels?

Nathan89
05-19-2018, 04:59 PM
Petersen is a guru for many incels and other men who want to think of themselves as victims.

Evidence?

Nathan89
05-19-2018, 05:00 PM
Running wild with incels. Every comment has it now.:lmao

Chris
05-19-2018, 05:01 PM
Petersen is a guru for many incels and other men who want to think of themselves as victims.

Just making shit up now.

Pavlov
05-19-2018, 05:01 PM
Evidence?This thread.

Pavlov
05-19-2018, 05:02 PM
Running wild with incels. Every comment has it now.:lmaoTriggered.

Nathan89
05-19-2018, 05:04 PM
Evidence?


This thread.

So no evidence.

Pavlov
05-19-2018, 05:05 PM
So no evidence.Of course this thread is evidence. You are always trying to play the victim. Petersen enables your victimhood.

sickdsm
05-19-2018, 05:08 PM
Using incel as a derogatory term just verifies that those using it are trophying sex.

Pavlov
05-19-2018, 05:10 PM
Using incel as a derogatory term just verifies that those using it are trophying sex.Should I used incel as a sympathetic or complimentary term?

I'd like an answer to this one.

Quadzilla99
05-19-2018, 05:37 PM
Using incel as a derogatory term just verifies that those using it are trophying sex.

"Trophying" sex?
Fuck kind of slang is that?

spurraider21
05-19-2018, 05:47 PM
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wrong thread?

DarrinS
05-19-2018, 05:57 PM
Petersen is a guru for many incels and other men who want to think of themselves as victims.

Wut?

DarrinS
05-19-2018, 06:00 PM
By the way, I literally had to google “incel”. Had to override my spell checker to even write “incel” in this post.

Pavlov
05-19-2018, 06:04 PM
Welcome to 2016, Darrin.

Quadzilla99
05-19-2018, 06:04 PM
By the way, I literally had to google “incel”. Had to override my spell checker to even write “incel” in this post.

Hav you ever seen a Jordan Peterson video?

pgardn
05-19-2018, 06:11 PM
Is this the formation of a redddit man cave for mainly manly men?

Shall I bring Old Spice?

Quadzilla99
05-19-2018, 06:12 PM
If the answer is yes Darrin then youre all caught up

Quadzilla99
05-19-2018, 06:17 PM
I mean give me a fucking break
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DdfeFr2UQAIGzgA?format=jpg

Reck
05-19-2018, 06:21 PM
This guy is pretty solid, imo.

I like his other takes about psychology and the human mind. His criminology takes are fire.

Chris
05-19-2018, 06:40 PM
wrong thread?

???

Spurminator
05-19-2018, 06:41 PM
I mean give me a fucking break
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DdfeFr2UQAIGzgA?format=jpg

Sounds similar to countries that have arranged marriages between children. Those countries basically have no violence ever.

pgardn
05-19-2018, 06:44 PM
This guy is pretty solid, imo.

I like his other takes about psychology and the human mind. His criminology takes are fire.

Women will all go for high status men?

Are you fckn kidding?
Most Women want to be loved for what they are in my experience.
It does not take high status to be kind and enjoy the company of the opposite sex. To find the same things funny, laugh, and just enjoy the company.

Wtf is wrong here...

He does have some interesting points, but his view of the opposite sex and what men need is bizzare.

Quadzilla99
05-19-2018, 06:48 PM
Women will all go for high status men?

Are you fckn kidding?
Most Women want to be loved for what they are in my experience.
It does not take high status to be kind and enjoy the company of the opposite sex. To find the same things funny, laugh, and just enjoy the company.

Wtf is wrong here...

He does have some interesting points, but his view of the opposite sex and what men need is bizzare.

Exactly half the homeless round here have girlfriends

DarrinS
05-19-2018, 06:49 PM
I think the “enforced monogamy” is taken out of context and seems to be the latest smear.




If nature had it’s way all women would have children with the most attractive males, and most males would die childless. You can imagine that this would be a good thing, at least from a purely genetic point of view. The losers would be weeded out.

Now, thanks, to the culturally enforced monogamy, every unattractive chump has a good chance to find a female who’ll want to forget that he’s not attractive on the condition that he at least takes care of her children and offers security and stability.

Spurminator
05-19-2018, 06:53 PM
How do you ensure you're pairing these losers with women they'll actually find attractive? A lot of times these guys just have a misconception of the kind of woman who should have interest in them.

Warlord23
05-19-2018, 06:53 PM
Peterson is just a more subtle and sophisticated example of an alt-right huckster who cons losers by blaming others for their ineptitude. Shitty career - blame immigrants and affirmative action, shitty relationships - blame feminists, limited knowledge - blame "liberal" colleges. Not surprising that the people who support him also tend to be Trumpanzees. They probably think he's the smartest guy alive.

Reck
05-19-2018, 06:54 PM
Women will all go for high status men?

Are you fckn kidding?
Most Women want to be loved for what they are in my experience.
It does not take high status to be kind and enjoy the company of the opposite sex. To find the same things funny, laugh, and just enjoy the company.

Wtf is wrong here...

He does have some interesting points, but his view of the opposite sex and what men need is bizzare.

Because that's the only argument he parrots? What part of his other takes such as psychology and criminology escaped you?

The man can have his backwards opinions all he wants. There are some things where his ground is firm where he bases it on cases and studies done.

pgardn
05-19-2018, 07:06 PM
Because that's the only argument he parrots? What part of his other takes such as psychology and criminology escaped you?

The man can have his backwards opinions all he wants. There are some things where his ground is firm where he bases it on cases and studies done.


Agree.

But when one has his views on male/female relationships this leaves a really big gap. It’s almost like he has been jilted and is still sore. It’s flat out weird. And he keeps trying to pigeonhole this stuff into biological evolutionary arguments that are way off.

DarrinS
05-19-2018, 07:08 PM
Peterson is just a more subtle and sophisticated example of an alt-right huckster who cons losers by blaming others for their ineptitude. Shitty career - blame immigrants and affirmative action, shitty relationships - blame feminists, limited knowledge - blame "liberal" colleges. Not surprising that the people who support him also tend to be Trumpanzees. They probably think he's the smartest guy alive.


He’s not on the right at all. He’s just against regressive SJWs, which probably explains his popularity with some on the right.

pgardn
05-19-2018, 07:16 PM
“If nature had its way all women would have children with the most attractive males and most males would die childless”

So extraordinarily wrong.... This is just flat out spectacularly stupid. Did he miss biology class?

Try this:

If nature had its way, women would have children with men most likely to help take care of a child or children and raise them well enough that they would live long enough to reproduce themselves.

When wrong concerning biology, he is just magnificently wrong.

DarrinS
05-19-2018, 07:21 PM
“If nature had its way all women would have children with the most attractive males and most males would die childless”

So extraordinarily wrong.... This is just flat out spectacularly stupid. Did he miss biology class?

Try this:

If nature had its way, women would have children with men most likely to help take care of a child or children and raise them well enough that they would live long enough to reproduce themselves.

When wrong concerning biology, he is just magnificently wrong.


If nature had its way, i.e. if we were like all other animals. That’s how I interpreted it.

Warlord23
05-19-2018, 07:24 PM
“If nature had its way all women would have children with the most attractive males and most males would die childless”

So extraordinarily wrong.... This is just flat out spectacularly stupid. Did he miss biology class?

Try this:

If nature had its way, women would have children with men most likely to help take care of a child or children and raise them well enough that they would live long enough to reproduce themselves.

When wrong concerning biology, he is just magnificently wrong.

Just one of several far-fetched conclusions from him. His famous serotonin-hierarchy comparison between humans and lobsters is another prominent fallacy. Sounds just smart enough if you want to draw conclusions that support your worldview, but falls apart if you dissect it from a neutral standpoint.

Warlord23
05-19-2018, 07:30 PM
If nature had its way, i.e. if we were like all other animals. That’s how I interpreted it.

But we are not like other animals because of nature. Our evolution is not unnatural. And we have been on this planet for 200,000+ years. And we have built all kinds of societies: patriarchal, matriarchal, hunter-gatherer, agricultural, warlike, collaborative etc. In that context, Peterson's logic is baffling.

My theory is that he doesn't believe everything he says. He says it because the people who buy his books, attend his lectures and seek counselling from him eat up this tripe.

Warlord23
05-19-2018, 07:37 PM
If you're a Trump-supporting loser, you can very easily interpret Peterson's remarks to align with your beliefs.

So when Peterson says "hierarchies are inevitable because of our biology", you take that to mean that white men similar to you are supposed to be at the top because of biological and not social factors, so women or minorities trying to guilt you into acknowledging social causes are lying. Peterson himself would (probably correctly) say that he didn't imply anything of the sort, but he knows very well that such conclusions are being drawn.

pgardn
05-19-2018, 07:37 PM
If nature had its way, i.e. if we were like all other animals. That’s how I interpreted it.

Given our biology of being fairly clumsy animals and having few offspring that take a significant period of time to develop to capable mating age. What I stated makes sense from an evolutionary point of view. If you then throw in social constructs it complicates the picture but ultimately, yes, for our biology, females need(ed) help.

DarrinS
05-19-2018, 07:42 PM
But we are not like other animals because of nature. Our evolution is not unnatural. And we have been on this planet for 200,000+ years. And we have built all kinds of societies: patriarchal, matriarchal, hunter-gatherer, agricultural, warlike, collaborative etc. In that context, Peterson's logic is baffling.


Read entire Peterson quote I posted.



My theory is that he doesn't believe everything he says. He says it because the people who buy his books, attend his lectures and seek counselling from him eat up this tripe.

Uh, ok.

Nathan89
05-19-2018, 08:22 PM
I think the “enforced monogamy” is taken out of context and seems to be the latest smear.

Enforced monogamy is pretty much status quo. Some are act like he wants to delegate a woman to each man.

AaronY
05-19-2018, 08:23 PM
Just one of several far-fetched conclusions from him. His famous serotonin-hierarchy comparison between humans and lobsters is another prominent fallacy. Sounds just smart enough if you want to draw conclusions that support your worldview, but falls apart if you dissect it from a neutral standpoint.
Lol tell me about the lobsters

AaronY
05-19-2018, 08:24 PM
Better yet Nathan tell me his lobster theory

AaronY
05-19-2018, 08:26 PM
Go into detail about how it blew your mind and changed your life if at all possible please tyia

Nathan89
05-19-2018, 08:41 PM
Peterson is just a more subtle and sophisticated example of an alt-right huckster who cons losers by blaming others for their ineptitude. Shitty career - blame immigrants and affirmative action, shitty relationships - blame feminists, limited knowledge - blame "liberal" colleges. Not surprising that the people who support him also tend to be Trumpanzees. They probably think he's the smartest guy alive.

Immigrants have a negative impact on poor Americans. Fact. At the individual level you'd be a fool to blame them over just leveling up. Affirmative action negatively impacts more qualified people. Fact. Mostly the same stance as immigrants but this can be more direct and by the very nature if the complaint is accurate they were better.

The reason most people that support him are Trump supporters has nothing to do with what you said. He got famous because of the pervasive left in Canada were trying to compel speech to cater to trans people. He stood his ground against the pervasive left while catching a lot of heat. Every derogatory name was thrown at him(not much has changed there are idiots in here calling him an incel), death threats were made, etc. Since then the pervasive left on college campuses have tried to shut him down. So from the get go it's very easy to see why Trump supporters would like him.

He's clearly an intelligent individual.

pgardn
05-19-2018, 08:47 PM
Better yet Nathan tell me his lobster theory

Start at my post #33 in the interview thread.
There was hot Lobster.... discussion.

Peterson Starts at somewhere around 4:20 in the interview first post.
He needed a science editor.
If the guy really wanted the lobster to stay in his book without derision, they could have worked it.

Nathan89
05-19-2018, 08:51 PM
If you're a Trump-supporting loser, you can very easily interpret Peterson's remarks to align with your beliefs.

So when Peterson says "hierarchies are inevitable because of our biology", you take that to mean that white men similar to you are supposed to be at the top because of biological and not social factors, so women or minorities trying to guilt you into acknowledging social causes are lying. Peterson himself would (probably correctly) say that he didn't imply anything of the sort, but he knows very well that such conclusions are being drawn.

Nobody takes it to mean that. You really know how to paint a negative picture of your opposition. You don't have to deal with what people actually think you just attribute a bunch of negative bullshit and dismiss. It's impressive.

Chris
05-19-2018, 08:54 PM
Nobody takes it to mean that. You really know how to paint a negative picture of your opposition. You don't have to deal with what people actually think you just attribute a bunch of negative bullshit and dismiss. It's impressive.

Poor fella is obviously hard wired that way. You can't fix stupid.

Nathan89
05-20-2018, 03:45 AM
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Nathan89
05-20-2018, 03:58 AM
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AaronY
05-20-2018, 06:29 AM
Tell about the lobsters now lol

pgardn
05-20-2018, 07:45 AM
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Monogamy is a hell of a good idea and way to live imo.


We can certainly start counseling in schools for males that are not getting proper reinforcement at home on their self worth as mates. But a real problem seems to be that Peterson has this bizarre idea that a male must be physically attractive. So exercise, testosterone shoulders back, acting out as an alpha when you are really a beta, will have to be a part of the curriculum. Somewhere in his mind the basic ideas of being a good listener, affable and friendly, humor with a strong dash of decency, reliable, honest, and caring, have completely escaped him.

The dude does not know the majority of females, at all... Seriously.
He has had some big time rejection that mentally scarred him imo.
Another bit of an observation: Females with stunningly good looks who have had this reinforced throughout their lives can be more screwed up than ugly males. It’s almost a curse imo. Parents... important in grounding.

Winehole23
05-20-2018, 08:48 AM
triggered alt-right snowflakes can't tolerate any criticism of Jordan Peterson and defend equalitarian distribution of pussy because they're SO ALPHA.

Winehole23
05-20-2018, 08:50 AM
don't worry, low status males, Trump nanny state will level the playing field for you by putting women back in their place.

Warlord23
05-20-2018, 10:04 AM
Nobody takes it to mean that. You really know how to paint a negative picture of your opposition. You don't have to deal with what people actually think you just attribute a bunch of negative bullshit and dismiss. It's impressive.

This is exactly what Peterson himself would say. The "What, my ideas contributing to misogyny?! No way, look at the context!!" response. In the real world, Peterson is popular in various loser communities (incels, mgtow, men's rights etc). They disagree on the degree of agreement with him, but love the veiled misogyny bit.

He says that men should stand tall and behave assertively on the one hand, and questions why women wear makeup to work in a discussion about sexual harrassment on the other. The idiots who support him can connect the dots. This is like Saudi clerics who preach that "Allah will reward those who spread Islam", and "infidels must be defeated or converted", but then feign ignorance when jihadis interpret this as a license to use terrorism.

Warlord23
05-20-2018, 10:34 AM
Peterson actually started off with good intentions to help young men rediscover self-worth and confidence, and some of his material is indeed useful in that context. However he soon figured out that playing to the insecurities of losers was far more profitable. Since then, he can't shut up about feminism, Marxism, differences between men and women, SJWs, etc. As he has acquired more alt-right followers, he now echoes their views on completely unrelated matters like the reasons behind gun violence. He has even cleverly talked about Christianity in a way that his followers think he is on their side.

The guy now does what he needs to sell books and speeches, and it is mostly by telling his captive audience what they want to hear - but packaged with a smattering of psychology, philosophy and sociology to make it seem authoritative

Nathan89
05-20-2018, 11:24 AM
triggered alt-right snowflakes can't tolerate any criticism of Jordan Peterson and defend equalitarian distribution of pussy because they're SO ALPHA.

Make an accurate critique next time.

Winehole23
05-20-2018, 11:28 AM
that is accurate: Jordan Peterson's bread and butter is aggrieved white men who think parity with women is oppression and that assortative mating is unfair.

Spurminator
05-20-2018, 11:30 AM
Nobody takes it to mean that. You really know how to paint a negative picture of your opposition. You don't have to deal with what people actually think you just attribute a bunch of negative bullshit and dismiss. It's impressive.

Why don't you give it a shot, then?

Explain it to us in your words, not tweets or snark.

Winehole23
05-20-2018, 11:31 AM
it's also accurate that Jordan Peterson's acolytes are triggered by the slightest criticism of Peterson.

Nathan89
05-20-2018, 11:45 AM
Nope. He does talk about the dangers of equality of outcome by excessive means. He doesn't want talent to be disregarded based on gender or race.

DarrinS
05-20-2018, 12:14 PM
triggered alt-right snowflakes can't tolerate any criticism of Jordan Peterson and defend equalitarian distribution of pussy because they're SO ALPHA.


don't worry, low status males, Trump nanny state will level the playing field for you by putting women back in their place.


that is accurate: Jordan Peterson's bread and butter is aggrieved white men who think parity with women is oppression and that assortative mating is unfair.


it's also accurate that Jordan Peterson's acolytes are triggered by the slightest criticism of Peterson.


Hitting the bottle early today? :lol

DarrinS
05-20-2018, 12:15 PM
And lol at “equalitarian distribution of pussy”

Winehole23
05-20-2018, 12:20 PM
Hitting the bottle early today? :loldon't mind if I do, but I'm not there yet.

you can blame boredom and caffeine if you like.

AaronY
05-20-2018, 12:32 PM
Still want to hear about the lobsters tbh

Chris
05-20-2018, 01:00 PM
Still want to hear about the lobsters tbh

Still hamfisting that awful joke eh?

AaronY
05-20-2018, 05:14 PM
Still hamfisting that awful joke eh?
Lol still wont talk about his lobster analogy

Pavlov
05-20-2018, 05:53 PM
So this guy is amazing but no one knows what he is saying at any time.

Chris
05-20-2018, 05:58 PM
So this guy is amazing but no one knows what he is saying at any time.

Nah, just you, winehole, and warlord.

Pavlov
05-20-2018, 06:05 PM
Nah, just you, winehole, and warlord.OK, Chris -- tell me in your words what he wants to happen for more men to get married and not murder people.

Chris
05-20-2018, 06:06 PM
OK, Chris -- tell me in your words what he wants to happen for more men to get married and not murder people.

Nah, you're too cynical to learn anything.

Pavlov
05-20-2018, 06:11 PM
Nah, you're too cynical to learn anything.I accept your white flag.

My quote stands.

So this guy is amazing but no one knows what he is saying at any time.

AaronY
05-20-2018, 07:28 PM
https://media.giphy.com/media/KfJTn0iGNEGu4/giphy.gif,

sickdsm
05-21-2018, 01:55 PM
"Trophying" sex?
Fuck kind of slang is that?

Putting the pussy on a pedestal.

sickdsm
05-21-2018, 01:58 PM
Should I used incel as a sympathetic or complimentary term?

I'd like an answer to this one.

Use it however you want. You will be judged accordingly by different people different ways according to the language you use. How have you gotten by in life not knowing that?

Pavlov
05-21-2018, 02:14 PM
Use it however you want. You will be judged accordingly by different people different ways according to the language you use. How have you gotten by in life not knowing that?Incels use the term for themselves.

What would you rather have me call them?

sickdsm
05-21-2018, 03:02 PM
Incels use the term for themselves.

What would you rather have me call them?

Are you 6 years old? Use it however the fuck you want. You don't need permission from me. I'm telling you how you are perceived by me and others that way.

Pavlov
05-21-2018, 03:05 PM
Are you 6 years old? Use it however the fuck you want. You don't need permission from me. I'm telling you how you are perceived by me and others that way.I didn't say I would definitely follow your suggestion. I'm asking you what you would rather have me call them so you won't go on these tangents.

Chris
05-22-2018, 01:21 AM
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Chris
05-22-2018, 01:33 AM
@ 11:20 he explains the lobsters AaronY

sickdsm
05-22-2018, 07:04 AM
I didn't say I would definitely follow your suggestion. I'm asking you what you would rather have me call them so you won't go on these tangents.

In your diluted world someone responding how you sound is a tangent. Like anyone believes you would be accommodating. More shit posting from chump.

sickdsm
05-22-2018, 07:06 AM
http://thefederalist.com/2018/05/21/the-left-and-the-right-arent-hearing-the-same-jordan-peterson/



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The Left And The Right Aren’t Hearing The Same Jordan Peterson
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The Left And The Right Aren’t Hearing The Same Jordan Peterson
A New York Times Magazine hit piece says more about the mainstream media than it says about Jordan Peterson.
By David Marcus
Dr. Jordan Peterson, who has enjoyed a surge into fame over the past year, has become a bit like the Yanny and Laurel audio meme. People listen to what he has to say but disagree wildly about what they are hearing.

Some hear a man with important ideas that can help people live a more fulfilling life, others hear a dangerous misogynist who wants to set back the cause of liberated women, trans people, and the rest of the cast(e) of oppression. In a feature for The New York Times Magazine this weekend, Nellie Bowles clearly came down on the latter side.

The first paragraph makes this obvious: “Look back to the 1950’s he says.” It’s not clear from the article if this is a quote from Peterson. In any event, this interpretation has an essential mistake. When Peterson talks about changes in gender, sexuality, family, and work, he is exposing central contradictions, both evolutionary and social, that he believes are making people unhappy.

He is not suggesting that all women should aspire to be a 1950s Donna Reed housewife, but that on many levels some women do want something closer to that lifestyle. Part of the evidence for this is that since the sexual revolution the question of whether women can “have it all” has been so often on our tongues and pages. Peterson suggests the answer, in many cases, is no.

He isn’t telling women not to strive for whatever they want, or to be forced into anything. But that’s the progressive narrative against him, one that the Times reinforced. A perfect example of this is Bowles’ mischaracterization of Peterson’s argument that societies are better off with “enforced monogamy.”

The Times Got It Wrong
The Times article makes it appear that Peterson means somehow women will be forced into sex they don’t want to have, calling his ideas about “enforced monogamy” absurd. The reaction to that line has been swift and damning. But that’s not what he is talking about at all. He is talking about societal norms that value monogamy and work to enforce it. He addressed this on Twitter this weekend.


He also addressed it on his blog: “My critics’ abject ignorance of the relevant literature does not equate to evidence of my totalitarian or misogynist leanings.” The important thing here is that Peterson assumed his interviewer was up on anthropological terms of art. That’s never a good bet for journalists. We are mostly known for not paying for lunch.

Peterson blames Bowles for not being familiar with the relevant literature, but “enforced monogamy,” is not a well-known term of art, and it does sound menacing. Bowles probably should have asked for clarification before presenting it as absurd, but Peterson also has to know and anticipate that these kinds of attacks are going to be leveled at him by people who may be ill-informed in anthropology, but nonetheless well-intentioned.

Some of the confusion over just what Peterson means to propose is that most of his content is delivered verbally, either in lectures or interviews. Indeed, as in this case, once presented with someone’s confusion Peterson will often go to his blog to effectively explain the position.

In writing and especially editing one thing an author does is actively anticipate misunderstanding and try to get ahead of it. This is much harder to do when talking off the cuff, especially if you are talking to people who agree with you. It allows you brush past ideas you and the audience take for granted that others might not. This unfortunately is a central theme of Peterson’s style. It leaves him open to fair attacks.

What Is Our Medium?
Bowles derides Peterson as a YouTube philosopher. Okay, cutting and demeaning, but so what? What important philosopher who scribbles with a quill is he being compared to? What scary things does he say? That marriage and monogamy are good for society? If you think that is nonsense, okay, #TindrTill90, or whatever. Have sex with whomever you want, be whatever gender you want, be no gender, be all genders, be the fulcrum of humanity the moment it changes. I get that appeal.

But we are not that. At least, we don’t have to be. The central message Peterson sends is to reject postmodernism and the Marxism it embraces. I’m on board with that, with one small reservation. Postmodernism itself was a denial that science could tell us all. Philosophers like Fredric Jameson urged us to take ancient narratives more seriously. This is a central plank of Peterson’s program, and one that we don’t hear enough about in popular accounts of his oeuvre.

In fact, much of Peterson’s insistence that we listen to, and understand, our ancient myths, legends, and stories is not because they tell us how we should be, but because they tell us how we have been. These old narratives give us insight into what our ancestors thought about being human, where humanity had been, where humanity wanted to go. This is an essential tool for understanding western thought and ideas — assuming we still wish to be human.

Nathan89
05-24-2018, 01:05 PM
Why polygamy breeds civil war

When large numbers of men are doomed to bachelorhood, they get desperate

https://www.economist.com/the-economist-explains/2018/03/19/why-polygamy-breeds-civil-war

Pavlov
05-24-2018, 01:08 PM
In your diluted world someone responding how you sound is a tangent. Like anyone believes you would be accommodating. More shit posting from chump.You didn't answer my question. More shit posting from you.

Winehole23
05-24-2018, 01:09 PM
Apart from Utah, is polygamy a big problem in the US?

Pavlov
05-24-2018, 01:10 PM
Apart from Utah, is polygamy a big problem in the US?It caused the US Civil War, dude.

There was a whole thing on PBS.

Spurminator
05-24-2018, 01:15 PM
Blaming polygamy for a lack of success with women is really a new (and stunning) achievement in victimhood.

boutons_deux
05-24-2018, 01:18 PM
Blaming polygamy for a lack of success with women is really a new (and stunning) achievement in victimhood.

file incels, etc in the category of misogynist White Male Supremacy

Another shitty aspect of (north) America that Trash has "flushed" out, emboldened

pgardn
05-24-2018, 01:44 PM
0ioRnhKK1T4

So at 11:20 this is how his heirarchy has manifested itself in humans... His words not in your YouTube:



If nature had its way all women would have children with the most attractive males and most males would die childless”

So extraordinarily wrong.... This is just flat out spectacularly stupid. Did he miss biology class?

Try this:

If nature had its way, women would have children with men most likely to help take care of a child or children and raise them well enough that they would live long enough to reproduce themselves.

When wrong concerning biology, he is just magnificently wrong.

From another/or later in a thread.
Chris has a way of leaving the insane stuff out. Peterson is also perfectly correct in stating male dominated captilastic societies did not cause hierarchical structures. So he says something obviously correct, and then feeds the reader/listener crap.

This is how he works.

leemajors
05-24-2018, 02:12 PM
https://www.the-tls.co.uk/articles/public/jordan-peterson-12-rules-kate-manne-review/

pgardn
05-24-2018, 02:53 PM
https://www.the-tls.co.uk/articles/public/jordan-peterson-12-rules-kate-manne-review/

12 Rules of Life...

A snowflake beta book for autistic males.
Bunch of shut in dweebs that never had a sister and or never go outside on their own.
Take themselves way too seriously and don’t trust that life will find them due to their totally awkward nature.
Grow the f up... Have enough confidence to make fun of yourself and try to laugh on occasion.
Get out of the house and quit reinforcing your perceived pitiful position by blaming women.

spurstalk posters, you know who you are....

Pavlov
05-24-2018, 03:15 PM
LOBSTERS! WOMEN DON'T LIKE ME BECAUSE LOBSTERS!

Chris
05-24-2018, 05:05 PM
So at 11:20 this is how his heirarchy has manifested itself in humans... His words not in your YouTube:



If nature had its way all women would have children with the most attractive males and most males would die childless”

So extraordinarily wrong.... This is just flat out spectacularly stupid. Did he miss biology class?

Try this:

If nature had its way, women would have children with men most likely to help take care of a child or children and raise them well enough that they would live long enough to reproduce themselves.

When wrong concerning biology, he is just magnificently wrong.

From another/or later in a thread.
Chris has a way of leaving the insane stuff out. Peterson is also perfectly correct in stating male dominated captilastic societies did not cause hierarchical structures. So he says something obviously correct, and then feeds the reader/listener crap.

This is how he works.





You should get on the youtubes and go to debates since you know more than Jordan Peterson.

AaronY
05-31-2018, 12:38 AM
Lmfao wtf is this shit

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DW6a2qcUMAARSjc?format=jpg

ElNono
05-31-2018, 03:33 AM
^ hopefully fake news

pgardn
05-31-2018, 07:18 AM
You should get on the youtubes and go to debates since you know more than Jordan Peterson.

Oh I do concerning evolution. There is no doubt whatsoever.
You can pick all the little clips out where he is perfectly correct and arguing with a talk show host who does not get it.

You personally would never find a clip of me destroying his stupid argument concerning females picking males. They won’t put these up on your little Reddit 4chan grottos of sniveling pimple faced males crying because girls don’t like them.

Bunch of Frkn shut in wimpy babies that can’t communicate face to face.

pgardn
05-31-2018, 07:37 AM
Lmfao wtf is this shit

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DW6a2qcUMAARSjc?format=jpg

The consequences of people not believing in God are totalitarianism and then nihilism.
These things have occurred quite well within the major faiths brother man.

This guy is a piece of work. He needs a pipe to click against his teeth so he can pretend he is saying something important here.

Spurminator
05-31-2018, 09:50 AM
Lmfao wtf is this shit

It's a self-gratifyingly pedantic way of saying, "If you believe in God, you're open-minded. If you don't, you're closed-minded."

It's the most fundamentally shitty argument possible because you could completely reverse the statement and a good number of people would agree with that version.

Winehole23
05-31-2018, 03:20 PM
it's a fundamentally lucrative argument. pandering works.

Chris
06-05-2018, 04:32 PM
1004110294627639301



Liberal academia has long favored atheism, or at least agnosticism, where allegiance to Christianity is cause for ridicule or suspicion, because Christianity is falsely regarded as justifying oppression (colonialism, eurocentrism, exploitation). This is the great betrayal of the intellectual-class, who have built solid careers by championing hostility to the West.

Winehole23
06-14-2018, 04:01 PM
uh oh

1006980189019045888

Spurminator
06-15-2018, 11:46 AM
uh oh

1006980189019045888

Somebody must've hacked him.

Chucho
06-15-2018, 11:49 AM
it's a fundamentally lucrative argument. pandering works.


Pandering is how you win the vote in this country so long you don't ostracize the majority to pander to the extreme minorities. We saw Clinton lose the election this way.

Winehole23
06-15-2018, 12:37 PM
DJT won with a minority of votes cast and historically 2nd worst approval ratings, but I see what you mean.

Isitjustme?
09-28-2018, 04:25 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Peterson

https://jordanbpeterson.com

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The famous Cathy "So you're saying?" Newman debate

/aMcjxSThD54


My favorite debate so far. Rebecca (the atheist) gets crushed :tu William Craig is brilliant. It's incredibly long though.


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Older video about why Jordan decided not to be an atheist anymore

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Most recent debate:

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LMAO oopsie

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Winehole23
10-05-2018, 06:21 PM
1048320826376740865

vy65
10-05-2018, 06:35 PM
He got utterly destroyed by Sam Harris. Was one of the most bizarre podcasts I’ve ever listened to.

Isitjustme?
10-19-2018, 08:38 AM
:lmao :lmao

1053063942510010368

:lmao :lmao

Winehole23
10-19-2018, 08:47 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dp1nycoVsAAEgMg.jpg

spurraider21
10-19-2018, 12:35 PM
:lmao :lmao

1053063942510010368

:lmao :lmao
:lol

Winehole23
10-29-2018, 01:24 PM
Jordan Peterson is not doing awesome.

Speaking to his fans here:

1056864010920968193

Chris
11-25-2018, 06:43 PM
1066835755262271491

Don't forget about the 41% suicide attempt rate.

Winehole23
11-25-2018, 11:57 PM
Dr Peterson is a bit slow on the draw, this story's been burbling around on twitter for awhile.

The frank solicitude of the Intellectual Derp Web and the alt-lite for survivors of reassignment surgery, is touching.

Chris
11-26-2018, 12:09 AM
The story was posted today and it's from the U.K. :lol

How petty of you to insinuate he should have seen some other reiteration sooner.

AaronY
11-26-2018, 12:16 AM
:lmao :lmao

1053063942510010368

:lmao :lmao
Roflolmao

:lmao :lmao

Winehole23
11-26-2018, 03:12 AM
The story was posted today and it's from the U.K. :lol

How petty of you to insinuate he should have seen some other reiteration sooner.we can't all be au courant

AaronY
01-03-2019, 01:22 AM
Lol

1074733843159154689

Winehole23
01-03-2019, 01:37 AM
that's why they make the big money... reparations for people saying mean things about rich folks. :cry

boutons_deux
08-23-2019, 09:23 PM
BAP / BAM is the same Macho Man category as Peterson's bullshit

The alt-right manifesto that has Trumpworld talking

An anonymous book author has lit the online right on fire — including some in the president’s orbit.

https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/0c9f1ac/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2F50%2Fbb%2 Ff598667740f79efa1fcc86ac92bc%2F190822-alt-right-gty-773.jpg

The most important political book of the past year just might be a grammatically challenged manifesto in favor of nude sunbathing written under the pen name Bronze Age Pervert.

a cohort of young, right-wing men are today gravitating toward “Bronze Age Mindset.”

The self-published book urges them to join the armed forces in preparation for the onset of military rule.

a 5,000-word review (https://www.claremont.org/crb/article/are-the-kids-altright/) by Michael Anton, a conservative intellectual who served as a spokesman for Donald Trump’s National Security Council.

Anton concludes by warning, “In the spiritual war for the hearts and minds of the disaffected youth on the right, conservatism is losing. BAP-ism is winning.”

The 200-page book mixes Nietzschean philosophy with critiques of contemporary Western society,

denigrating

homosexuality,
Judiasm,
Islam,
feminism and
much else along the way.

The book claims that the leaders of the European Union have “tiny moleman eyes.”

Many of its passages are profane and unprintable.

the latest phase of the culture war that has fueled Trump’s presidency.

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0?ui=2&ik=c5ffe9fe07&attid=0.1&permmsgid=msg-a:r3757614998783394308&th=16cc16d7fd3c025e&view=fimg&sz=s0-l75-ft&attbid=ANGjdJ-xiv-kuun1g29nZSC8BYp_5jXHUbrxOtH2UUsTDReH-8QbT26XZ64QSDEdku2rXPm40Ns_OUuFwVStQ-LVh_FW89J3A3uqjUjKPG-uCqBbrvC_Zf3SqRoJAF8&disp=emb&realattid=ii_jzox34en0

(https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/23/alt-right-book-trump-1472413)https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/23/alt-right-book-trump-1472413

TheGreatYacht
08-23-2019, 09:44 PM
Richard Wolff Schools Jordan Peterson on Marx, at #JPCON

https://youtu.be/VdHO78PWr_8

Winehole23
08-23-2019, 10:09 PM
Aspiring nude bodybuilder

https://twitter.com/bronzeagemantis



Influenced by Scott Lively: https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2005/anti-gay-religious-crusaders-claim-homosexuals-helped-mastermind-holocaust

and Adrian Vermeule: https://providencemag.com/2019/06/what-you-should-know-integralism/

Winehole23
08-23-2019, 10:13 PM
Michael Anton's review in Claremont Review:


We live in a time when the terms “neo-Nazi” and “fascist” are overused, encompassing everyone from Jordan Peterson to Donald Trump. Further, we also live in a time when there is much ambiguity and irony in our digital lives. A great appeal of the Pervert, to press and public alike, is his ambiguity. Is he really on the level? Is this just another troll or prank? His persona seems so humorous and ridiculous that many will believe that his politics are merely an extreme affectation, a chance to be a naughty boy and provoke. I believe, however, that he is sincere. His beliefs as expressed in this book are entirely consistent with aspects of Nazi ideology and, particularly, he shows a predilection for the ideas of “esoteric Hiterlism” propounded by the Chilean diplomat Miguel Serrano. These include psychic powers, a belief in Atlantis as an Aryan homeland, and the notion of Antarctica as a base for Nazi UFOs – among other eccentric beliefs.[

https://medium.com/@TXHart/book-review-bronze-age-mindset-5dd5b79bead1

Winehole23
08-23-2019, 10:16 PM
A further neo-Nazi trope within Mindset is its anti-Semitism. The Pervert asserts that the people called “Jewish” today are not Jewish at all, and proceeds to advance the idea that there is a disconnect between the two categories. This view is designed to delegitimatise a people and so justify mass murder on the grounds that only people following an “evil” ideology, not an entire people, are being killed. It’s a wicked idea.

The idea that there is such a thing as a “Jewish attitude”, quite distinct from a Jewish people, was fairly common in the 19th century and is evident in both Marx and Nietzsche. When the Nazis spoke of “killing the Jew within yourself” this was what they were alluding to. Looking back from the 21st century, we forget that the Nazi conception of race was not genetic as we would understand it, and their animus towards the Jewish people was not based in, as was traditional in Europe, religious anti-Semitism. Rather, Nazi anti-Semitism was rooted in the view the Pervert expounds, that there is a sort of womanish, commercial, and overly-civilised way of being that – while applicable to any person – is particularly pronounced in Jewish people.

TheGreatYacht
08-24-2019, 01:24 AM
Richard Wolff Schools Jordan Peterson on Marx, at #JPCON

https://youtu.be/VdHO78PWr_8

Debunking Jordan Peterson’s “Cultural Marxism” with Richard Wolff

https://youtu.be/liT7e5M6XfY
Cultural Marxism = SJW/snowflake boogeyman

boutons_deux
08-24-2019, 06:10 AM
Shapiro inflaming the easily inflammable

Kock Bros' decades of financing their VRWC anti-AGW strategy and their polluting businesses have and will KILL Ms of humans and non-humans.

Trayvon Martin was defending himself against a fat, loser prick of a self-appointed vigilante who was, against 911/police advice, stalking Martin because Martin was Walking While Black.

Thread
08-24-2019, 07:50 AM
Shapiro inflaming the easily inflammable

Kock Bros' decades of financing their VRWC anti-AGW strategy and their polluting businesses have and will KILL Ms of humans and non-humans.

Trayvon Martin was defending himself against a fat, loser prick of a self-appointed vigilante who was, against 911/police advice, stalking Martin because Martin was Walking While Black.

See, only your side wants & enjoys (inflaming). For decades only your side did it. For some fuckin' reason my side didn't & wouldn't. Then our Messiah emerged & taught how to fight back, how to (inflame).

& we've never looked back.

See, bouts, you can dish it. But, sweetheart, you cannot take it.

Let us proceed...

TheGreatYacht
08-24-2019, 09:50 AM
See, only your side wants & enjoys (inflaming). For decades only your side did it. For some fuckin' reason my side didn't & wouldn't. Then our Messiah emerged & taught how to fight back, how to (inflame).

& we've never looked back.

See, bouts, you can dish it. But, sweetheart, you cannot take it.

Let us proceed...

Your messiah :lmao

The day he has the balls to debate a leftist who knows their shit about politics the world will see him for the charlatan that he is. He should stay out of politics and stick to clinical psychology.

Thread
08-24-2019, 11:59 AM
Your messiah :lmao

The day he has the balls to debate a leftist who knows their shit about politics the world will see him for the charlatan that he is. He should stay out of politics and stick to clinical psychology.

He made President staying out of politics, he ain't changing for money, marbles, nor chalk.
---------
Zogby Analytics 86 percent:

The old man goes back-to-back.

TheGreatYacht
08-25-2019, 02:58 PM
Richard Wolff explains feud with Jordan Peterson

https://youtu.be/pmRN6plLeHU

Spurtacular
08-29-2019, 11:17 PM
I'm going to guess he's aggrieved and white guys are the real victims.

Has your research in the last fifteen months confirmed this?

Spurtacular
08-29-2019, 11:29 PM
I mean give me a fucking break
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DdfeFr2UQAIGzgA?format=jpg
RandomGuy

Is JP right? Or should dudes have other dudes fucking their wives?

ElNono
08-30-2019, 01:14 AM
IMO, it's a complete disconnect of why society continues to move away from all these encumbered traditionalisms.

Attempting to enforce monogamy is akin to other preached but not followed hits like pre-marriage celibacy, the prohibition, the war on recreational drug use, etc.

At the very core, all require certain personal sacrifice in exchange for some sort of virtual moral high ground, which is why they inevitably fail.

Much like marriages that do work have much more to do with solid communication, empathy, teamwork, etc and very little to do with avoiding potential social shaming.

Spurtacular
08-30-2019, 03:08 PM
IMO, it's a complete disconnect of why society continues to move away from all these encumbered traditionalisms.

Attempting to enforce monogamy is akin to other preached but not followed hits like pre-marriage celibacy, the prohibition, the war on recreational drug use, etc.

At the very core, all require certain personal sacrifice in exchange for some sort of virtual moral high ground, which is why they inevitably fail.

Much like marriages that do work have much more to do with solid communication, empathy, teamwork, etc and very little to do with avoiding potential social shaming.

When shaming was at a high, divorces were at a low. We can argue about whether that "worked," but it'd probably be a tedious argument, tbh.

ElNono
08-31-2019, 08:25 PM
When shaming was at a high, divorces were at a low. We can argue about whether that "worked," but it'd probably be a tedious argument, tbh.

Yeah, the problem isn't with divorce IMO, the problem was living a life of lies, cheating and unhappiness. Before divorce was actually available, people used to go for smokes and never come back. We just didn't keep a stat for that.

Spurtacular
08-31-2019, 08:29 PM
Yeah, the problem isn't with divorce IMO, the problem was living a life of lies, cheating and unhappiness. Before divorce was actually available, people used to go for smokes and never come back. We just didn't keep a stat for that.

Probably a high prevalence in the lower dredges of society, which is f*cked up in the first place. This was not something that would be considered acceptable in civil society.

Thread
08-31-2019, 08:46 PM
Yeah, the problem isn't with divorce IMO, the problem was living a life of lies, cheating and unhappiness. Before divorce was actually available, people used to go for smokes and never come back. We just didn't keep a stat for that.

They still do.

The absence of a piece of paper ain't gonna heal a child's heart when dad walks away from the designated smoking area at work.
That child will get mad when mom starts dating & fucking in the other room while that child is watching TV in the other room.
The teachers & principals will teach him it's okay, even "a good thing." He knows better.

TheGreatYacht
08-31-2019, 09:24 PM
Forcing moms and dads to get married and be in a toxic relationship is not gonna solve corruption and income inequality :lol

This is like the old "let's blame the LGBT for all of society's problems." We're better off giving better sexual education and birth control. Helps the overpopulation problem too tbh ..

TheGreatYacht
09-09-2019, 09:55 AM
Jordan Peterson: Without Religion There's No Morality

https://youtu.be/aw1jtOiPzB0




:lol Jordan Peterson the intellectual of the right

Chucho
09-09-2019, 11:09 AM
Yeah, the problem isn't with divorce IMO, the problem was living a life of lies, cheating and unhappiness. Before divorce was actually available, people used to go for smokes and never come back. We just didn't keep a stat for that.

We're so efficient today, we bypass all of the negative aspects of a relationship. Most people never come back after the nut's been a-busted.

spurraider21
09-09-2019, 11:26 AM
Yeah, the problem isn't with divorce IMO, the problem was living a life of lies, cheating and unhappiness. Before divorce was actually available, people used to go for smokes and never come back. We just didn't keep a stat for that.
yeah and during slavery, black unemployment was at an all-time low!

Nathan89
09-09-2019, 11:52 AM
IMO, it's a complete disconnect of why society continues to move away from all these encumbered traditionalisms.

Attempting to enforce monogamy is akin to other preached but not followed hits like pre-marriage celibacy, the prohibition, the war on recreational drug use, etc.

At the very core, all require certain personal sacrifice in exchange for some sort of virtual moral high ground, which is why they inevitably fail.

Much like marriages that do work have much more to do with solid communication, empathy, teamwork, etc and very little to do with avoiding potential social shaming.

Probably has something to do with it being better for society not some "moral high ground".

RandomGuy
09-09-2019, 01:13 PM
RandomGuy

Is JP right? Or should dudes have other dudes fucking their wives?

Peterson is a hack.

As for the rest of it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection


Psychological projection is a defence mechanism in which the human ego defends itself against unconscious impulses or qualities (both positive and negative) by denying their existence in themselves while attributing them to others.[1] For example, a person who is habitually rude may constantly accuse other people of being rude. It incorporates blame shifting.

Spurtacular
09-09-2019, 02:38 PM
Peterson is a hack.

As for the rest of it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

Your wife has had another lover while you were married?

Yes or no.

RandomGuy
09-09-2019, 02:58 PM
Your wife has had another lover while you were married?

Yes or no.


Psychological projection is a defence mechanism in which the human ego defends itself against unconscious impulses or qualities (both positive and negative) by denying their existence in themselves while attributing them to others.[1] For example, a person who is habitually rude may constantly accuse other people of being rude. It incorporates blame shifting.

Spurtacular
09-09-2019, 06:04 PM
^^^
RandomGuy

I get it; you don't want to be known as blake's cousin. :lmao

RandomGuy
09-09-2019, 06:24 PM
IMO, it's a complete disconnect of why society continues to move away from all these encumbered traditionalisms.

Attempting to enforce monogamy is akin to other preached but not followed hits like pre-marriage celibacy, the prohibition, the war on recreational drug use, etc.

At the very core, all require certain personal sacrifice in exchange for some sort of virtual moral high ground, which is why they inevitably fail.

Much like marriages that do work have much more to do with solid communication, empathy, teamwork, etc and very little to do with avoiding potential social shaming.

Pretty much. Wife and I have been together for 24 years, and that bolded part sums it up.

Spurtacular
09-09-2019, 06:27 PM
Pretty much. Wife and I have been together for 24 years, and that bolded part sums it up.

Yea, she communicated that she was taking other lovers.

You empathized with her that you're not enough of a man for her.

And you were a good teammate and sat on the bench while she played.

RandomGuy
09-09-2019, 06:30 PM
^^^
RandomGuy

I get it; you don't want to be known as blake's cousin. :lmao

I have told you, I will not ever answer any more of your questions even if it is just what I had for lunch.

It's like you are begging for fap material, and more than a little creepy.

Beg some more.

Pavlov
09-09-2019, 06:32 PM
It's like you are begging for fap material, and more than a little creepy.

:lol

RandomGuy
09-09-2019, 06:33 PM
Yea, she communicated that she was taking other lovers.

You empathized with her that you're not enough of a man for her.

And you were a good teammate and sat on the bench while she played.

Keep begging. :lol

Spurtacular
09-09-2019, 06:38 PM
Keep begging. :lol

Keep avoiding. :lol

RandomGuy
09-09-2019, 06:41 PM
Keep avoiding. :lol

I am refusing to answer any questions at all because you are, simply, a horrible human being.

You could ask me what I had for lunch, and the answer would be the same.

:cry "i'm entitled to people's information" :cry

Get over yourself, kid.

Spurtacular
09-09-2019, 06:42 PM
I am refusing to answer any questions at all because you are, simply, a horrible human being.

You could ask me what I had for lunch, and the answer would be the same.

:cry "i'm entitled to people's information" :cry

Get over yourself, kid.

You need safety in your cuckoon. I get that.

RandomGuy
09-09-2019, 06:49 PM
You need safety in your cuckoon. I get that.

(shrugs) This shit is boring. Not going to bother responding anymore. I have said my piece. Fap away, creepo.

Spurtacular
09-09-2019, 07:12 PM
(shrugs) This shit is boring. Not going to bother responding anymore. I have said my piece. Fap away, creepo.

You're mad at your wife for announcing that you're a cuckold. That's how you fap, tbh.

:lmao

TheGreatYacht
10-29-2019, 12:50 AM
Noam Chomsky on Jordan Peterson, Post-Modernism, Foucault and Ali G

https://youtu.be/XeWWz4y1coU

Isitjustme?
11-25-2020, 04:11 AM
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spurraider21
11-25-2020, 08:21 AM
Hilarious thread

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Will Hunting
11-25-2020, 08:29 AM
Hilarious thread

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:lmao the clip where he argues with Joe Rogan about how incels deserve affirmative action from women.

Isitjustme?
03-29-2022, 01:58 PM
1508579434441236482

spurraider21
03-29-2022, 02:21 PM
:lmao

ElNono
03-29-2022, 02:22 PM
:lmao

Leetonidas
03-29-2022, 02:52 PM
:lmao

Th'Pusher
03-29-2022, 11:18 PM
:lmao

RandomGuy
03-30-2022, 07:39 AM
:lmao

ChumpDumper
03-31-2022, 01:22 AM
:lmao

Winehole23
04-06-2022, 08:50 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FPgi0yRXIAQs6_r?format=jpg&name=small

spurraider21
04-06-2022, 01:49 PM
epitome of a faux intellectual


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPIh1xQiuI8

FrostKing
04-07-2022, 03:47 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FPgi0yRXIAQs6_r?format=jpg&name=small
Long live Wojak

Trill Clinton
04-07-2022, 08:56 AM
https://www.currentaffairs.org/2018/03/the-intellectual-we-deserve



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfyQ8muKLdc

Winehole23
04-07-2022, 09:26 AM
I don’t know, Dad, but I think I have discovered something that no one else has any idea about, and I’m not sure I can do it justice. Its scope is so broad that I can see only parts of it clearly at one time, and it is exceedingly difficult to set down comprehensibly in writing…. Anyways, I’m glad you and Mom are doing well. Thank you for doing my income tax returns.

Trill Clinton
04-07-2022, 12:33 PM
I don’t know, Dad, but I think I have discovered something that no one else has any idea about, and I’m not sure I can do it justice. Its scope is so broad that I can see only parts of it clearly at one time, and it is exceedingly difficult to set down comprehensibly in writing…. Anyways, I’m glad you and Mom are doing well. Thank you for doing my income tax returns.


:lmao

Winehole23
05-12-2022, 12:55 PM
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Winehole23
05-17-2022, 12:07 PM
https://c.tenor.com/jCFxwPIbgXgAAAAC/yay-help.gif

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ChumpDumper
05-17-2022, 12:37 PM
https://c.tenor.com/jCFxwPIbgXgAAAAC/yay-help.gif

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Get off twitter, snowflake. Have a nice steak.

Winehole23
05-17-2022, 12:50 PM
Get off twitter, snowflake. Have a nice steak.


It's worth remembering that Peterson literally gained international prominence by styling himself as an "anti-snowflake" willing to say things that coddled students took offence at.

Winehole23
05-17-2022, 02:52 PM
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Isitjustme?
05-17-2022, 07:06 PM
1526550248730120195

ElNono
05-17-2022, 07:07 PM
https://c.tenor.com/jCFxwPIbgXgAAAAC/yay-help.gif

1526570194453245952

:lmao

spurraider21
05-19-2022, 01:01 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvMyZK717gE

pure, unadulterated, and to use the scienticific term... gobbledygook

spurraider21
05-19-2022, 01:01 PM
:lol tbh

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ChumpDumper
05-26-2022, 01:23 AM
"Save me, Elon!"

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Isitjustme?
11-29-2022, 04:11 PM
https://i.imgur.com/o0h0Btt.png

ChumpDumper
11-29-2022, 05:06 PM
https://i.imgur.com/o0h0Btt.pngPeterson is not a good writer.

spurraider21
11-29-2022, 06:40 PM
Peterson is not a good writer.
or person

or thinker

used to be a pretty good clinical psychologist as far as im aware

ChumpDumper
11-29-2022, 06:48 PM
or person

or thinker

used to be a pretty good clinical psychologist as far as im awareHe was really good at meat coma.

Winehole23
03-13-2023, 10:59 AM
And posted it all on Twitter. (now deleted)

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Winehole23
03-13-2023, 11:01 AM
dude has some issues


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FrBmnl-WcAEiIM8?format=jpg&name=medium

Winehole23
03-13-2023, 01:29 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FrEtuiRaUAIWvBJ?format=png&name=small

Winehole23
08-28-2023, 10:00 AM
Peterson is melting down over


Last November, Peterson, a professor emeritus with the University of Toronto psychology department who is also an author and media commentator, was ordered by the College of Psychologists of Ontario to undergo a coaching program on professionalism in public statements.



The college's complaints committee concluded his controversial public statements could amount to professional misconduct and ordered Peterson to pay for a media coaching program — noting failure to comply could mean the loss of his licence to practice psychology in the province.https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/jordan-peterson-court-case-decision-1.6943845

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