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Clipper Nation
05-22-2018, 10:55 PM
Durbeta has been playing selfish isoball all series long and especially down the stretch during his chokejob tonight. I thought that was what his fanboys said he had to leave OKC and join the Warriors to get away from?

Since Durbeta is playing the exact same way without him, it's time to stop blaming Westbrook for Durbeta's selfish style of play.

midnightpulp
05-22-2018, 10:57 PM
Durbeta has been playing selfish isoball all series long and especially down the stretch during his chokejob tonight. I thought that was what his fanboys said he had to leave OKC and join the Warriors to get away from?

:lol And then with the game on the line after he grabbed that o-board he passes it to Klay Thompson who was swarmed when Durant had a driving lane.

Clipper Nation
05-22-2018, 11:03 PM
:lol And then with the game on the line after he grabbed that o-board he passes it to Klay Thompson who was swarmed when Durant had a driving lane.
Durbeta's BBIQ is just so unimpressive. Too much of his game is based purely on scoring, especially isolation scoring.

It's sad that people are actually dumb enough to think he's on LeBron's level or even better. Put LeBron on this Warriors team instead and he'd have them rewriting the record books.

FkLA
05-22-2018, 11:10 PM
He's a different player than LeBron and honestly there's nothing wrong with that. He's still easily the second best player in the world. Too bad he's a mental midget though. You can't be that amazing of a scorer and give the ball up to Klaynus on that second to last play. He's been hitting that pull-up midrange shot at like a 90% clip all postseason.

midnightpulp
05-22-2018, 11:31 PM
He's a different player than LeBron and honestly there's nothing wrong with that. He's still easily the second best player in the world. Too bad he's a mental midget though. You can't be that amazing of a scorer and give the ball up to Klaynus on that second to last play. He's been hitting that pull-up midrange shot at like a 90% clip all postseason.

He didn't want to carry the burden if he missed the shot, so he put it on someone else. I could understand if Klay was wide open, but that side of the court was crowded.

Clipper Nation
05-22-2018, 11:33 PM
He's still easily the second best player in the world.

He's not even the best player on his own team :lol

Othyus Lalanne
05-23-2018, 03:22 AM
Durbeta has been playing selfish isoball all series long and especially down the stretch during his chokejob tonight. I thought that was what his fanboys said he had to leave OKC and join the Warriors to get away from?

Since Durbeta is playing the exact same way without him, it's time to stop blaming Westbrook for Durbeta's selfish style of play.

Never tried something new and figured out you cannot do it?

KimmyGib
05-23-2018, 05:03 AM
To be fair, Klay blew that last play. He was supposed to pass it back to Durant for the 3. Tucker got screened by curry giving KD an open look, which is probably why Kerr didn't call timeout.

Double-Up
05-23-2018, 09:31 AM
Durbeta's BBIQ is just so unimpressive. Too much of his game is based purely on scoring, especially isolation scoring.

It's sad that people are actually dumb enough to think he's on LeBron's level or even better. Put LeBron on this Warriors team instead and he'd have them rewriting the record books.

He doesn't have the passing skills or court awareness that LeBron has, but he is a better shooter/scorer, nigga just shit the bed last night.

spurraider21
05-23-2018, 11:06 AM
tbh klay was also an idiot for running to the same corner that curry was already standing in. curry occupying a corner was clearly intended to give durant max operating space, klay should have followed suit.

resistanze
05-23-2018, 11:10 AM
https://preview.ibb.co/dLyA0o/Capture.png

:lol

lefty
05-23-2018, 11:59 AM
Wasn't he on the court when they went 1-11 ?

Chris Fall
05-23-2018, 12:07 PM
tbh klay was also an idiot for running to the same corner that curry was already standing in. curry occupying a corner was clearly intended to give durant max operating space, klay should have followed suit.

Good point. Klay could have just run and sit at the right corner.

But the criticism on KD is more appropriate. He had full view of everything and everyone in front of him and a defender back-pedaling with no help defense behind that defender and plenty of time to attack. Straight drive up the middle of the court or to the completely wide open right side would have offered him several great scoring opportunities. Instead, he dribbled towards the left side of the court where almost everyone had gone to and congested that side. That absolutely felt like he wanted no part of taking the last shot.

Clipper Nation
05-23-2018, 12:07 PM
https://preview.ibb.co/dLyA0o/Capture.png

:lol

:lol And dumbasses actually think that Durbeta is carrying Curry instead of the other way around.

InRareForm
05-23-2018, 12:13 PM
Curry choked in the 4th

lebomb
05-23-2018, 12:19 PM
Golden State as a whole team choked in the 4th.

Stabula
05-23-2018, 06:17 PM
Mr. Unreliable

Clipper Nation
05-24-2018, 11:34 PM
Durbeta just had his second 0-assist game of the series tonight. He also had a 1-assist game in Game 1. Just imagine what people would be saying if this was LeBron or Westbrook instead. But since it's Durbeta, he'll get a free pass like always.

Kawhitstorm
05-25-2018, 12:07 AM
Durbeta just had his second 0-assist game of the series tonight. He also had a 1-assist game in Game 1. Just imagine what people would be saying if this was LeBron or Westbrook instead. But since it's Durbeta, he'll get a free pass like always.

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Clipper Nation
05-25-2018, 06:52 PM
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spursistan
05-25-2018, 09:05 PM
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lol at putting him in the same tier with Lebron...

Clipper Nation
05-25-2018, 09:42 PM
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lol at putting him in the same tier with Lebron...
Meanwhile, LeGOAT had 5 assists in the first half alone tonight.

Clipper Nation
05-25-2018, 10:39 PM
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DMC
05-26-2018, 12:07 AM
:lol And then with the game on the line after he grabbed that o-board he passes it to Klay Thompson who was swarmed when Durant had a driving lane.


Durbeta's BBIQ is just so unimpressive. Too much of his game is based purely on scoring, especially isolation scoring.

It's sad that people are actually dumb enough to think he's on LeBron's level or even better. Put LeBron on this Warriors team instead and he'd have them rewriting the record books.

He's a cerebral player. Kerr preaches "pass to the first open guy you see, don't hesitate.. be like Mike" - KD trusts his coach. He trusted Scott Brooks and Donovan, that's why Westbrook's stats were so gaudy.

KD isn't like Lebron at all. He's a much better shooter but Lebron can get you a bucket at almost any given time and he does everything else better than KD, and he's more driven and has more poise. KD is an assassin, one of the most unstoppable shooters in league history. He can drive to the cup, shoot FTs with the best of them, has decent defense and isn't a cancer. He walked the ball right down Lebron's throat last year in the Finals, just walked up and buried a 3 right in his open mouth, in Cleveland.

DMC
05-26-2018, 12:10 AM
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lol at putting him in the same tier with Lebron...

If Lebron could shoot as well as KD he wouldn't have nearly as many assists. KD cannot throw a laser beam pass full court like Lebron, because KD is closer to what a typical 7 footer looks like while Lebron is a 6'4" guard in a 6'8" 270lb frame.

Lebron is the best player we'll see in our lifetimes, and by best I don't mean most smooth, best ball handler, etc... He's the most effective and unstoppable player for the longest period of time. His prime is like what 13 years?

Clipper Nation
05-26-2018, 12:14 AM
If Lebron could shoot as well as KD he wouldn't have nearly as many assists.
LeBron's stepback jumper has been automatic all playoffs and he's still racking up assists despite playing with scrubs. There's no excuse for Durbeta to go entire games without assists when he's playing with Curry and Klay. It's not like he hasn't had plenty of opportunities to make easy passes and expose the flaws in Houston's defense. He's just too focused on his own scoring to notice.

DMC
05-26-2018, 12:20 AM
LeBron's stepback jumper has been automatic all playoffs and he's still racking up assists despite playing with scrubs. There's no excuse for Durbeta to go entire games without assists when he's playing with Curry and Klay.

A. Lebron isn't as good of a shooter as Durant. This is proven by stats.
B. Teammates have to hit shots to get assists.
C. Durant is averaging 4 assists per game in the playoffs this season. That's is 3rd all time highest APG in the playoffs.
D. Durant had 2 games of zero assists. Warriors lost both games. If you think the Warriors lose because Durant doesn't pass, explain how they are in the WCF and why it's a choke if they lose.

I do think KD has the feeling of "we got this" which is why he's comfortable heaving up 30' shots like Steph used to do quite often. It's a big reason why they lost the games they've lost, because KD doesn't think he'll miss and doesn't look for a better shooter, but Kerr's rotations are shit. You have KD on the floor with 4 bench players or 3 and Looney. That makes no sense. Looney is almost useless, the others bench players are the ones who miss wide open looks during the momentum swings where GS normally goes on a tear.

Clipper Nation
05-26-2018, 12:27 AM
Teammates have to hit shots to get assists.

Maybe if Durbeta didn't hog the ball all game and prevent his teammates from getting in rhythm, that would be happening more.


Durant had 2 games of zero assists.

And that's two more than he should ever have on a team with Curry and Klay. Playing with two historic shooters, you'd think he could even just fluke into some assists by accident every game. I know you like to be a contrarian and all, but KD really has no excuses for this.

DMC
05-26-2018, 12:29 AM
Maybe if Durbeta didn't hog the ball all game and prevent his teammates from getting in rhythm, that would be happening more.



And that's two more than he should ever have on a team with Curry and Klay. Playing with two historic shooters, you'd think he could even just fluke into some assists by accident.

Klay had 1 assist as did AI.

They both play on a team with Curry.

30% from 3 when you take 30 shots a game from there isn't conducive to generating assists.

AlexJones
05-26-2018, 12:48 AM
Let's be real

Durant isn't better than Dirk at his peak

Bynumite
05-26-2018, 10:20 PM
Pretty disgusting that Durant is probably gonna win another FMVP after being carried through the toughest part of the playoffs.

The guy was legit a spectator while Klay and Curry were making shots staging the comeback and building the lead.

dbestpro
05-28-2018, 03:13 PM
OKC has felt pretty bad losing Harden, and even worse losing Durant, but now the watch as Green help leads Cleveland to the finals. How good could this team have been had they held it together and had the right coach?

endrity
05-28-2018, 04:20 PM
Let's be real

Durant isn't better than Dirk at his peak

He's only now trying to develop the high-post/elbow-extend post game which Dirk started to develop after Nash left in 04, but didn't really perfect until after 07, and which truly established him as a legendary player. And Durant is far far behind him. At 30 years old, which would be the 2009 playoffs was absolutely unreal against the Spurs and Nuggets, his moves had become automatic. He could play it blindly and still score.

Durant lost too much time playing "my turn" with Westbrook in chucking perimeter shots. He is and was absolutely great at it, but as you see eventually great teams will arise that will force you to go one-on-one, and will expose your weakness.

endrity
05-28-2018, 04:23 PM
OKC has felt pretty bad losing Harden, and even worse losing Durant, but now the watch as Green help leads Cleveland to the finals. How good could this team have been had they held it together and had the right coach?

This is hindsight 20/20 of course but I think Harden should have been the centerpiece. He's best creator off the dribble they had. If Westbrook and/or Durant didn't agree with that, they could have moved one later on, but they should have kept Harden. I remember in 2011 against the Mavs that only Harden was executing pick-and-rolls properly among them. Once he left, their offense would usually crumble. I never expected him to become the scorer and shooter he has become, but his vision, patience, and passing ability were always elite for me.

Clipper Nation
06-03-2018, 10:25 AM
Media is finally starting to notice Durbeta's selfishness:

https://www.actionnetwork.com/nba/article/strange-vibes-kevin-durant-warriors

Seventyniner
06-03-2018, 07:39 PM
This is hindsight 20/20 of course but I think Harden should have been the centerpiece. He's best creator off the dribble they had. If Westbrook and/or Durant didn't agree with that, they could have moved one later on, but they should have kept Harden. I remember in 2011 against the Mavs that only Harden was executing pick-and-rolls properly among them. Once he left, their offense would usually crumble. I never expected him to become the scorer and shooter he has become, but his vision, patience, and passing ability were always elite for me.

Imagine if they had jettisoned Westbrook and kept Harden.

tholdren
06-03-2018, 08:30 PM
Imagine if they had jettisoned Westbrook and kept Harden.

They should have kept harden traded durant. It would have been a better version of houston.

Kyle Orton
06-03-2018, 08:43 PM
Westbrick/Harden is an infinitely worse fit than Harden/Durant

tholdren
06-03-2018, 08:47 PM
Westbrick/Harden is an infinitely worse fit than Harden/Durant

Nope

Kyle Orton
06-03-2018, 08:54 PM
Nope

Two low percentage chuckers that dribble the air out of the ball is a great idea :tu

tholdren
06-03-2018, 09:02 PM
Two low percentage chuckers that dribble the air out of the ball is a great idea :tu

Lol u dumb