Left-Wing Billionaire Michael Bloomberg: Raising Taxes on Poor People "good thing"

[SpursforSix]

Michael Bloomberg: “Some people say, well, taxes are regressive. But in this case, yes they are. That's the good thing about them because the problem is in people that don't have a lot of money. And so, higher taxes should have a bigger impact on their behavior and how they deal with themselves. So, I listen to people saying 'oh we don't want to tax the poor.’ Well, we want the poor to live longer so that they can get an education and enjoy life. And that's why you do want to do exactly what a lot of people say you don't want to do.

https://www.atr.org/left-wing-billionaire-michael-bloomberg-raising-taxes-poor-people-good-thing (https://www.atr.org/left-wing-billionaire-michael-bloomberg-raising-taxes-poor-people-good-thing)

[Pavlov]

lol soda tax

[RandomGuy]

Soda taxes are great things, given the diabetes epidemic.

[ducks]

Soda taxes are great things, given the diabetes epidemic.

so anything that causes issues like diabetes epidemic should be an excuse to tax the people so gov can spend more
GOT IT

[spurraider21]

Soda taxes are great things, given the diabetes epidemic.
it would make more sense in a single payer system... the idea being soda leads to health conditions that the healthcare provider needs to pay for, so makes sense to send soda consumption money their way.

[boutons_deux]

the soda tax isn't obligatory, or confiscatory.

soda tax is not "raising taxes of the poor", but on everybody. and nobody's forcing the poor/anybody to drink sugary garbage

Do Soda Taxes Work? Not Unless Retailers Raise Prices

https://hbr.org/2018/01/do-soda-taxes-work-not-unless-retailers-raise-prices

The bigger issue is widespread ignorance about how to eat healthily, compounded by confusing, even for non-ignorant, conscientious-eaters, nutrition info from the nutrition/dietitian crowd

the bigger problem, esp for poor people, is that S.A.D highly-processed food-like substances from BigFood/BigAg are very cheap, very shitty compared to healthy food.

[ducks]

but people do not have time to eat healthy because the min wage has gone up so high and everything is so much they have to work 2 jobs

[SpursforSix]

The bigger issue is widespread ignorance about how to eat healthily, compounded by confusing, even for non-ignorant, conscientious-eaters, nutrition info from the nutrition/dietitian crowd

the bigger problem, esp for poor people, is that S.A.D highly-processed food-like substances from BigFood/BigAg are very cheap, very shitty compared to healthy food.


exactly

[SpursforSix]

but people do not have time to eat healthy because the min wage has gone up so high and everything is so much they have to work 2 jobs

are you retarded?

If so, maybe they'll give you a pass for peeing in front of kids

[ducks]

people eat at fast food places because they are in a hurry

[SpursforSix]

people eat at fast food places because they are in a hurry

partly, and partly because they are lazy. I'm sure in some cases it's the only option. But it really only takes a few minutes to put something together at home.
Even conveniences stores are starting to offer healthier choices. But people get addicted to the taste of crappy fast food and aren't willing to sacrifice that for health.

And even if McDonald's is your only choice, it doesn't mean you need a Big Mac, Large Fries, and a Coke.

[ducks]

partly, and partly because they are lazy. I'm sure in some cases it's the only option. But it really only takes a few minutes to put something together at home.
Even conveniences stores are starting to offer healthier choices. But people get addicted to the taste of crappy fast food and aren't willing to sacrifice that for health.

And even if McDonald's is your only choice, it doesn't mean you need a Big Mac, Large Fries, and a Coke.

wonder why people are lazy maybe because the gov offers hand outs ?

I bring my food to work and eat

healthy food can taste good but deep fat fries are great

[ducks]

do you think schools should offer breakfast and lunch even in the summer when no school is in for free?

[Pavlov]

do you think schools should offer breakfast and lunch even in the summer when no school is in for free?I think that should be up to the school districts.

[SpursforSix]

wonder why people are lazy maybe because the gov offers hand outs ?

I bring my food to work and eat

healthy food can taste good but deep fat fries are great

I know a lot of lazy people who are not getting government help.
I love fries. I even get a McRib once a year. But I know enough to not eat fast food 5 days a week.

[SpursforSix]

do you think schools should offer breakfast and lunch even in the summer when no school is in for free?

Probably not.
Even if they did, I don't know how many parents will drive their kids to school and wait on them to have breakfast. Assuming that any kids during the summer would want to do that.

[ducks]

I think that should be up to the school districts.

I think that money should go to school supplies and bus drivers not toward free food

[ducks]

Probably not.
Even if they did, I don't know how many parents will drive their kids to school and wait on them to have breakfast. Assuming that any kids during the summer would want to do that.

they do all the time in Yuma az

[Pavlov]

I think that money should go to school supplies and bus drivers not toward free foodWhat if they can afford all of it?

[SpursforSix]

they do all the time in Yuma az

Ok.

[ducks]

What if they can afford all of it?

they can not that is why teachers went on strike in az

[Pavlov]

they can not that is why teachers went on strike in azMaybe they should find a way to pay for all of it.

[RandomGuy]

so anything that causes issues like diabetes epidemic should be an excuse to tax the people so gov can spend more
GOT IT

Fundamental economics. It provides a mitigation for negative externalities and cost-shifting.

[RandomGuy]

it would make more sense in a single payer system... the idea being soda leads to health conditions that the healthcare provider needs to pay for, so makes sense to send soda consumption money their way.

We all pay for the health costs even in our current system of health care rationing. Cost and risk sharing are all taking place even here.

[ducks]

Maybe they should find a way to pay for all of it.

one way is stop teaching the people that live in mexico!

san luis would have 8 less schools!

[Pavlov]

one way is stop teaching the people that live in mexico!You have a lot of grievances.

[RandomGuy]

I think that money should go to school supplies and bus drivers not toward free food

The evidence we have from nutritional studies are that hungry kids don't learn as well. Personally I don't think kids should be punished to make you feel superior to their parents.

[ducks]

The evidence we have from nutritional studies are that hungry kids don't learn as well. Personally I don't think kids should be punished to make fucksticks like you feel superior to their parents, asshole.

we are talking about summer time when school is out !

[ducks]

The evidence we have from nutritional studies are that hungry kids don't learn as well. Personally I don't think kids should be punished to make fucksticks like you feel superior to their parents, asshole.
do you think abortion is ok?

[RandomGuy]

we are talking about summer time when school is out !

Ah, then letting them starve THEN is acceptable. Understood.

[RandomGuy]

do you think abortion is ok?

OK? I would prefer no abortions happen.

That will not be feasible, so I prefer them legal and accessible.

[ducks]

The evidence we have from nutritional studies are that hungry kids don't learn as well. Personally I don't think kids should be punished to make you feel superior to their parents.

I think you believe in socialism

[RandomGuy]

Maybe they should find a way to pay for all of it.

That would mean rich people would have to make due with slightly fewer $10,000 pairs of shoes.

[RandomGuy]

I think you believe in socialism

Depends on how you define it, which you are almost certainly incapable of doing.

[ducks]

OK? I would prefer no abortions happen.

That will not be feasible, so I prefer them legal and accessible.
I prefer no people kill anyone with anything either but that is not feasible

so stoping people from killing people with guns is not feasible why not use that same logic and make them legal and accessible

[ducks]

Depends on how you define it, which you are almost certainly incapable of doing.

how would you defend it I know how I would

[ducks]

Ah, then letting them starve THEN is acceptable. Understood.

if kids are starving the state would take the kids away

but again you think the gov should bail people out because they make bad choices


it is sad kids have to suffer from their parents choices but that is life

LeBron james kids are lucky they are born in a very wealthy family

james can afford to not have kids go to public school and things but do you think all kids should get to go to other schools then public schools
and who pays for it

[ducks]

Ah, then letting them starve THEN is acceptable. Understood.


refried beans are cheap and filling

[Pavlov]

Turns out the free meals program is federally funded.

[RandomGuy]

Depends on how you define [socialism], which you are almost certainly incapable of doing.


how would you defend it I know how I would

Sigh.

I said DEFINE it. (assume you merely mis-read my post).

Feel free to define "socialism", and I will tell you if I am for it or not. I have no idea what concept you have floating around in your head.

[RandomGuy]

if kids are starving the state would take the kids away

but again you think the gov should bail people out because they make bad choices


re-read that. (sighs)

[ducks]

Socialism is a range of economic and social systems characterised by social ownership and democratic control of the means of production[10] as well as the political theories and movements associated with them.[11] Social ownership may refer to forms of public, collective or cooperative ownership, or to citizen ownership of equity.[12] There are many varieties of socialism and there is no single definition encapsulating all of them,[13] though social ownership is the common element shared by its various forms.[5][14][15]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

[RandomGuy]

Socialism is a range of economic and social systems characterised by social ownership and democratic control of the means of production[10] as well as the political theories and movements associated with them.[11] Social ownership may refer to forms of public, collective or cooperative ownership, or to citizen ownership of equity.[12] There are many varieties of socialism and there is no single definition encapsulating all of them,[13] though social ownership is the common element shared by its various forms.[5][14][15]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

That definition is, by definition, not a definition.

:rollin

[Winehole23]

the Fed paints a picture of overall improvement:


Altogether, the survey findings provide a snapshot of people’s financial lives in late 2017. It is a story of overall improvement consistent with the national economic expansion. It is also a complex story of variation among different groups in the country and remaining areas of economic vulnerability…. Four in 10 adults, if faced with an unexpected expense of $400, would either not be able to cover it or would cover it by selling something or borrowing money. This is an improvement from half of adults in 2013 being ill-prepared for such an expense. Over one-fifth of adults are not able to pay all of their current month’s bills in full. Over one-fourth of adults skipped necessary medical care in 2017 due to being unable to afford the cost.” https://www.federalreserve.gov/publications/files/2017-report-economic-well-being-us-households-201805.pdf