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Dex
05-23-2018, 01:56 PM
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Well deserved by the young gun.

Now he just needs to get that whole offense thing down.
ducks
05-23-2018, 02:04 PM
bad to say young gun
guns are bad bad bad bad
TheGreatYacht
05-23-2018, 02:08 PM
Well deserved. Him and Aldridge really hid the defensive flaws of the other poor starters.
Dre_7
05-23-2018, 02:17 PM
If things with Kawhi can get smoothed over and they end up keeping Green, a 1-4 of Murray, Green, Kawhi, and LMA would be a hell of a defensive lineup!
Russ
05-23-2018, 02:23 PM
Does he get the SuperMax now?
spursistan
05-23-2018, 02:31 PM
Great for his trade value, tbh :tu..
r0drig0lac
05-23-2018, 02:34 PM
good for him
DAF86
05-23-2018, 02:35 PM
Now work on that corner three and on how to properly utilize a screen.
TimDunkem
05-23-2018, 02:37 PM
bad to say young gun
guns are bad bad bad bad

God shut the fuck up already you helmet wearing moron.
Mugen
05-23-2018, 02:38 PM
Murray/Patty/Pau for Kemba/Batum tbh.
TimDunkem
05-23-2018, 02:40 PM
Oh and


Great for his trade value, tbh :tu..
gambit1990
05-23-2018, 02:45 PM
Great for his trade value, tbh :tu..
first thing i thought.
LkrFan
05-23-2018, 02:47 PM
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LaMarcus Bryant
05-23-2018, 02:55 PM
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Chris Paul rubs his crotch onto players and spins around like a tornado to draw a foul and that's deserving of all defensive team consideration?
Color me disgusted.
BillMc
05-23-2018, 02:57 PM
LMA deserved it more than Dejounte.
BillMc
05-23-2018, 02:59 PM
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And Kobe sucked on defense the last 5 years of his career, yet somehow made the list occasionally. Obviously rep over merit is most important.
Drom John
05-23-2018, 03:08 PM
Per minute, but ...
Real Plus-Minus DRPM for point guards:

#1 Dejounte Murray 3.60
#2 Tyus Jones 2.40
#21 Derrick White 0.50
#82 Tony Parker -1.56
#90 Patty Mills -2.16
Last #103 Emmanuel Mudiay -3.66
Drom John
05-23-2018, 03:10 PM
Per minute still ...
Real Plus-Minus for small forwards
#1 Robert Covington 4.31
#2 Kyle Andersson 3.21
Ed Helicopter Jones
05-23-2018, 03:15 PM
Congrats!!

Now all he has left to learn to perfect his game is shooting, passing, dribbling and running the offense....
Ed Helicopter Jones
05-23-2018, 03:17 PM
LMA deserved it more than Dejounte.

LMA did deserve a spot. For sure.
spurraider21
05-23-2018, 03:18 PM
:lol mike trudell wasn't complaining when kirbs was making the all defensive team in his 30's when he wasn't even trying anymore
ducks
05-23-2018, 03:20 PM
God shut the fuck up already you helmet wearing moron.

dude you can just put me on ignore but you might not be bright enough to figure that out
BillMc
05-23-2018, 03:21 PM
:lol mike trudell wasn't complaining when kirbs was making the all defensive team in his 30's when he wasn't even trying anymore
Truth
Dex
05-23-2018, 03:27 PM
LMA deserved it more than Dejounte.

Hard to argue him over Gobert, Davis, Green, Embiid, or Horford for the other Forward spots.

I didn't watch enough of the Pacers to realize Oladipo was even in the running.
exstatic
05-23-2018, 03:29 PM
Hard to argue him over Gobert, Davis, Green, Embiid, or Horford for the other Forward spots.

I didn't watch enough of the Pacers to realize Oladipo was even in the running.

Green was AWFUL on D this year. He figuratively fell of a cliff.
Dex
05-23-2018, 03:31 PM
Green was AWFUL on D this year. He figuratively fell of a cliff.

Yeah, I guess he wasn't up to his previous years. Definitely a reputation pick there.
TheGreatYacht
05-23-2018, 03:42 PM
Knew the donkey would get reputation votes. He was atrocious this year. Got killed by every single big with a postup game and forced Kerr to blitz post players who would expose him.

Back in April:

A fucking all star :lol

As big of a joke as Kyle Korver and Jamal Magloire making it.

Mainstream media is usually 2 years late on things so we'll see if he receives any DPOY votes. It would be a joke if he even made 2nd team all defense.
dabom
05-23-2018, 03:53 PM
Expected. :tu
TD 21
05-23-2018, 04:18 PM
Wow. Even with advanced defensive stats slowly rising in prominence, because it'll always be more difficult to measure than offense, it's still the award most based on reputation and I can't remember a player with such a limited track record making it (Green's got to be wondering how it took him 6 seasons to finally be recognized, while Murray did it in 1). Thought next season would be his time.

Surprised George didn't make it and shocked Durant didn't. He came into the season pulling a Green (shamelessly campaigning), then other Warriors joined in, so naturally I thought their legion of fanboys/girls in the media would oblige.
Proxy
05-23-2018, 04:27 PM
bad to say young gun
guns are bad bad bad bad

only in schools
Phenomanul
05-23-2018, 04:28 PM
Good for Murray. Happy for him. :tu
tholdren
05-23-2018, 04:29 PM
Great for his trade value, tbh :tu..

Yep. Get rid asap
Seventyniner
05-23-2018, 05:12 PM
If things with Kawhi can get smoothed over and they end up keeping Green, a 1-4 of Murray, Green, Kawhi, and LMA would be a hell of a defensive lineup!

Murray/Green/Leonard/Anderson/LMA. Utter lockdown. On both ends of the floor. :lol
spurraider21
05-23-2018, 05:40 PM
wouldn't be the worst if Green's shot wasn't broken
tbdog
05-23-2018, 06:14 PM
Chris Paul rubs his crotch onto players and spins around like a tornado to draw a foul and that's deserving of all defensive team consideration?
Color me disgusted.

Whats more embarrassing was that Green got in over Durant, despite playing better on D than Green even when Green won dpoty last year.
Raven
05-23-2018, 06:17 PM
Should have been first team, but we'll take it.
Nathan89
05-23-2018, 06:33 PM
Hopefully this helps him find a contract with another team in the future.
Mr. Body
05-23-2018, 06:43 PM
What an undistinguished group of players.
tholdren
05-23-2018, 07:15 PM
Hopefully this helps him find a contract with another team in the future.

The talent in the nba is so bad he will be a star in 4 years. Lonzo ball is a star and shoots 20 percent from three. Todays nba is awful
Leetonidas
05-23-2018, 07:35 PM
Robert Covington on first team? Wtf? Dudes solid but that's a bit of a stretch
Leetonidas
05-23-2018, 07:36 PM
Also :lmao at Lillard getting a vote
Dverde
05-23-2018, 07:37 PM
Maybe our leader will ask his sister to tweet congratulations to him on Twitter.
Ditty
05-23-2018, 08:06 PM
I still rather have Kyrie if he was the difference between the trade between us and the Cavs.
james evans
05-23-2018, 08:14 PM
If things with Kawhi can get smoothed over and they end up keeping Green, a 1-4 of Murray, Green, Kawhi, and LMA would be a hell of a defensive lineup!

GREEN IS DONE!! I have no idea why people can't and refuse to acknowledge it. His defense isn't what it once was and he can barely hit open shots.
james evans
05-23-2018, 08:14 PM
I still rather have Kyrie if he was the difference between the trade between us and the Cavs.

Kyrie can't stay healthy when he's not playing with lebron. He can barely stay healthy with him
james evans
05-23-2018, 08:17 PM
Whats more embarrassing was that Green got in over Durant, despite playing better on D than Green even when Green won dpoty last year.

actually they're both pretty horrible. KD is still one of the worst man to man defenders in the league. He's just allowed to illegally camp out in the paint on defense, as his defensive assignment normally can't shoot worth shit, and get help side blocks. I refuse to believe a player that lets Kyle Anderson repeatedly take him off the dribble and finish on him is a "good" defender. But hey, that's why we watch the games and not the highlight reels right?
tholdren
05-23-2018, 09:12 PM
The talent in the nba is so bad he will be a star in 4 years. Lonzo ball is a star and shoots 20 percent from three. Todays nba is awful

This
tbdog
05-24-2018, 01:06 AM
actually they're both pretty horrible. KD is still one of the worst man to man defenders in the league. He's just allowed to illegally camp out in the paint on defense, as his defensive assignment normally can't shoot worth shit, and get help side blocks. I refuse to believe a player that lets Kyle Anderson repeatedly take him off the dribble and finish on him is a "good" defender. But hey, that's why we watch the games and not the highlight reels right?

Durant's man to man D is okay. But he was clearly the best defender on the Warriors this year and it was not even close.
james evans
05-24-2018, 02:21 AM
Durant's man to man D is okay. But he was clearly the best defender on the Warriors this year and it was not even close.

Durant's man to man defense is horrible. I don't know what games you've watched. Most of his blocks are help side defense. It helps that the Warriors never get called for illegal defense. Kyle Anderson was having his way with Durant in a meeting this season. It was hilarous that they were even considering him for an all nba 1st team defense.
Fireball
05-24-2018, 03:21 AM
congratulations ... did not think he would get noticed so early despite his metrics
tbdog
05-24-2018, 05:48 AM
Durant's man to man defense is horrible. I don't know what games you've watched. Most of his blocks are help side defense. It helps that the Warriors never get called for illegal defense. Kyle Anderson was having his way with Durant in a meeting this season. It was hilarous that they were even considering him for an all nba 1st team defense.

That was like one game. And he did a far better job on Gay all season. Warriors defense is disruptive style. They are looking for blocks and steals, then barrage teams with 3 point shooting. Their D is actually their O. Durant was better this year on D that Gren was last year.
YGWHI
05-24-2018, 07:34 AM
Well deserved!!

So...DPOY is between Rudy and AD.
Dre_7
05-24-2018, 09:52 AM
GREEN IS DONE!! I have no idea why people can't and refuse to acknowledge it. His defense isn't what it once was and he can barely hit open shots.

He is literally one year removed from being named to the same all defensive team that Murray just got named to. If you don't think those 4 together would be a lock down group you are letting your hate get in the way of your reasoning.
Play Boban
05-24-2018, 09:57 AM
This scrub would be first-team for worst offense in the NBA if they had such an award, too, tbh. :wakeup
Drom John
05-24-2018, 10:43 AM
LMA deserved it more than Dejounte.

Again a per minute stat, Real Plus-Minus DRPM for Power Forwards:
1. David West 4.02
2. Anthony Davis 3.80
24. LaMarcus Aldridge 1.26
Drom John
05-24-2018, 10:49 AM
GREEN IS DONE!! I have no idea why people can't and refuse to acknowledge it. His defense isn't what it once was and he can barely hit open shots.

Again, a per minute stat, Real Plus-Minus DRPM for Shooting Guards:
1. Andre Robinson 4.45
2. Victor Oladipo 3.25
5. Danny Green 1.17
16. Brandon Paul 0.64
39. Darrun Hilliard -0.29
85. Manu Ginobili -1.69
94. Bryn Forbes -2.17
109 (last) Jamal Crawford -5.36
ceds
05-24-2018, 10:51 AM
Expected. :tu

:toast
Dex
05-24-2018, 11:06 AM
Again, a per minute stat, Real Plus-Minus DRPM for Shooting Guards:
1. Andre Robinson 4.45
2. Victor Oladipo 3.25
5. Danny Green 1.17
16. Brandon Paul 0.64
39. Darrun Hilliard -0.29
85. Manu Ginobili -1.69
94. Bryn Forbes -2.17
109 (last) Jamal Crawford -5.36

Ugh, Bryn Forbes :vomit:
TheGreatYacht
05-24-2018, 12:03 PM
Again, a per minute stat, Real Plus-Minus DRPM for Shooting Guards:
1. Andre Robinson 4.45
2. Victor Oladipo 3.25
5. Danny Green 1.17
16. Brandon Paul 0.64
39. Darrun Hilliard -0.29
85. Manu Ginobili -1.69
94. Bryn Forbes -2.17
109 (last) Jamal Crawford -5.36
Disgusting to see 2 rotation players in the bottom 25 of their position. Even more disgusting when you remember Parker and Fatty are also bottom of the barrel in their position.

That's our guard rotation. 4 defensive cancers and 2 offensive cancers in Danny G-League and Delonte.
SAGirl
05-24-2018, 03:14 PM
Wow. Even with advanced defensive stats slowly rising in prominence, because it'll always be more difficult to measure than offense, it's still the award most based on reputation and I can't remember a player with such a limited track record making it (Green's got to be wondering how it took him 6 seasons to finally be recognized, while Murray did it in 1). Thought next season would be his time.

Surprised George didn't make it and shocked Durant didn't. He came into the season pulling a Green (shamelessly campaigning), then other Warriors joined in, so naturally I thought their legion of fanboys/girls in the media would oblige.
He's represented by Rich Paul.

He had some impressive games this season, notably against the Cavs on national TV. I remember one with 7 steals and he changed that game with his energy.

Glad for him. I thought he had a chance this season despite no track record because defense was really the main reason he was starting at all. He will need to become more consistent and foul less, etc. There's still room for improvement. Overall I wanted him to stay hungry because he can still be so much better.

Congrats to him.
SAGirl
05-24-2018, 03:17 PM
Per minute still ...
Real Plus-Minus for small forwards
#1 Robert Covington 4.31
#2 Kyle Andersson 3.21
Got snubbed. Credit for the Spurs defense went to Murray. Wish him the best wherever he is next season.
dbestpro
05-24-2018, 03:31 PM
bad to say young gun
guns are bad bad bad bad

this is my rifle this is my gun......................................