“This is not of God" --The Gospel of Trump

[RandomGuy]

Seems like some brave individuals, IMO. Good for them.


LYNCHBURG, Va. — The night before Shane Claiborne came to town to preach at a Christian revival, he received a letter from the chief of police at Liberty University warning that if he set foot on the property, he would be arrested for trespassing and face up to 12 months in jail and a $2,500 fine.

At first glance, Mr. Claiborne hardly appeared a threat to Liberty University, a dominant force in Lynchburg, Va., and a powerful engine in evangelical Christianity. Wearing baggy clothes that he sews himself, Mr. Claiborne preaches the gospel, lives among the poor and befriends prisoners on death row, modeling his ministry on the life of Jesus.

But to the leaders of Liberty, he was a menace to their campus. He and his national network of liberal evangelicals, called the Red Letter Christians, were holding a revival meeting to protest in Liberty’s backyard. Their target: Jerry Falwell Jr., Liberty’s president and a man who has played a pivotal role in forging the alliance between white evangelicals and Donald J. Trump, who won 81 percent of their vote.

Mr. Claiborne and his group are the other evangelicals. The Red Letter Christians, a reference to the words of Jesus printed in some Bibles in red type, are not the evangelicals invited for interviews on Fox News or MSNBC. They don’t align neatly with either political party. But they have fierce moral and theological objections to those evangelicals who have latched onto Mr. Trump and the Republican Party.

“Let’s go where the Christians are, go where toxic Christianity lives,” Mr. Claiborne said last year, when proposing the idea for a revival in Lynchburg at an annual retreat for the Red Letter Christians.

The revival last month was the most energetic of several recent attempts by Christians in various camps to confront what they see as Mr. Trump’s “court evangelicals” selling out the faith. The critics have written columns, and a book called “Still Evangelical?” They convened a closed-door summit last month at Wheaton College. A number of bereaved, eminent elders plan a procession to the White House soon to hand over their manifesto, “Reclaiming Jesus: A Confession of Faith in a Time of Crisis.”

Mr. Claiborne and his group were far more audacious, but they also faced disappointment, resistance and fear. They were taking on Lynchburg, a company town where Liberty University is the biggest employer. Their “Red Letter Revival” revealed the state of the evangelical church in 2018: The loudest voices and institutional power and money are with Mr. Trump; the dissenters are fired-up, underfunded and scattered; and the vast majority of pastors are silent for fear of dividing their congregations or risking their jobs.


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/23/us/anti-trump-evangelicals-lynchburg.html

[Chris]

Huh?

[boutons_deux]

" It’s hard to tell the truth in a context like Lynchburg.”"

:lol

[RandomGuy]

Huh?

You may have to (gasp) read to get the full story.

continued for those on this side of the paywall:



There is another gospel in our country right now, and it is the gospel of Trump,” Mr. Claiborne preached at the revival in his Tennessee drawl. “It doesn’t look much like the gospel of Jesus.”

Lynchburg sits at the heart of pro-Trump evangelical Christianity. Liberty University’s commencement speaker last year was Mr. Trump, a personal friend of Mr. Falwell’s. Fox News hosts are frequent speakers at chapel services.

Mr. Trump has retained the loyalty of conservative white evangelicals because he is delivering on their political priorities: appointing conservative judges, moving the American Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem and allowing religious entities to opt out of serving gay people or providing birth control in insurance plans. This record has enabled them to look past Mr. Trump’s personal scandals, including allegations of extramarital affairs.

But Red Letter Christians and other evangelicals have increasingly become frustrated that their church appears to be endorsing Mr. Trump’s program of deporting immigrants, fanning racial tension and passing a tax deal benefiting the rich.

“This is not of God,” thundered Barbara Williams-Skinner, an influential black evangelical elder in Washington, D.C., as the audience stood and clapped at the revival. “This is not worthy of our savior. This is not what he died for.”

Beginning in January, Don Golden, the executive director of the Red Letter Christians, visited Lynchburg seven times in three months to try to recruit like-minded leaders and Liberty students.

Mr. Golden had done refugee and missionary work in 70 countries. At age 51, with three daughters in college, he had left behind a fat salary in large ministries he called “Evangelical Inc.” and was on contract for the Red Letter Christians, without health insurance. Each morning he prayed to God to help him make it through the day without a mishap.

In Lynchburg, Mr. Golden began following the approach of the mass revivals honed for decades by the Rev. Billy Graham, in which organizers from out of town recruited local ministers to help turn out crowds and engage new believers. But Mr. Golden quickly learned how challenging his task would be.

When the president of Lynchburg College, Kenneth R. Garren, learned that some of his chaplains and faculty had hosted a Red Letter meeting on campus, he told them the college could not sponsor the event or host meetings.

“We didn’t want to take sides. We have a fine relationship with Liberty,” said Michael Jones, a spokesman for Lynchburg College, also a Christian school.

Three days before the revival, Mr. Golden met for breakfast with a leader of a local evangelical church in the dim, empty back room of a downtown cafe, so as not to be seen together. The church leader, who spoke on the condition that neither he nor his church be identified, said he believed in the Red Letter campaign because he was concerned about white evangelicals’ bond with Mr. Trump.

But the leader said that his church could not participate in the revival. He and three other elders at the church had jobs at Liberty University.

Still, Mr. Golden and the Red Letter Christians found small signs of support. The local organizing committee for the revival included three Liberty students, a Native American minister, and a few black pastors and church leaders. They held different views on homosexuality, but decided to work together in the interest of Christian unity.

“We need to break out of our silos,” said Anne Boynton, an elder at First Christian Church, who was a local co-chairwoman for the revival. “This is an aspirational moment, an opportunity to experience what the kingdom of God looks like.”

Mr. Golden also went to a white stucco church, Rivermont Baptist, to visit the Rev. Byron J. Elliott, who had been deliberating for weeks whether to accept an invitation to preach at the revival.

Mr. Elliott’s father, also a minister, had grown up in the church and braved the sit-ins at a “whites only” lunch counter on Main Street. The family later moved to New York and Mr. Elliott said he returned to Lynchburg two years ago to serve his father’s struggling church. But he felt like an outsider.

“Everyone’s afraid,” he said, pausing. “That’s strong language. Everyone’s very mindful of how they speak and how they deliver the truth. It’s hard to tell the truth in a context like Lynchburg.”

Few black churches in low-income Lynchburg can support full-time pastors, Mr. Elliott told Mr. Golden, so many find jobs on the Liberty campus.

Mr. Elliott, though, had made his decision. He would preach at the Red Letter Revival. “I’ve learned recently that there’s a difference between having something to say and having a voice,” he said.

But there was still the question of how Mr. Falwell himself would react to the event. Ten days before the revival, Mr. Claiborne wrote a letter to Mr. Falwell inviting him to join. Mr. Claiborne was not entirely a stranger — he had preached at Liberty after writing his book, “Jesus for President.” And Mr. Claiborne asked if he could bring some of the participants onto the Liberty campus for a prayer vigil. He asked Mr. Falwell to join them.

“I already pray for you, but I would love to pray with you,” Mr. Claiborne wrote, signing off, “Your brother in Christ.”

Mr. Falwell never responded, though in addition to banning the Red Letter Christians from campus, he forbade the Liberty University student newspaper from covering the revival. When Erin Covey, the student assigned to the story, asked Mr. Falwell to comment on the revival, she received a text from him that said: “Let’s not run any articles about the event. That’s all these folks are here for — publicity. Best to ignore them.”

Mr. Falwell’s brother, the Rev. Jonathan Falwell, agreed to meet with Mr. Golden, though, at Thomas Road Baptist Church on the Liberty campus.

“We really didn’t ask permission to come to Lynchburg,” Mr. Golden said in the meeting. “But we weren’t asked permission for evangelical leaders to say that Donald Trump is the president for evangelicals.”

In an interview later by phone, the Rev. Jonathan Falwell said he disagreed with Mr. Golden’s premise that evangelicalism has been compromised by backing Mr. Trump. “I think the condition of the church today is strong,” he said.

And he said Liberty was justified in barring the Red Letter Christians because Mr. Claiborne had threatened to commit civil disobedience.

can do more if anyone wants.

Seems like pro-Trump Christians are ignoring what Jesus taught, if I understand correctly.

[RandomGuy]

Huh?

https://concisepolitics.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/jesus-on-children.png

Is that basically it, right?

[ducks]

good for them for what


clearly trump is better for Christians then Clinton
clearly trump is the most pro-abortion then any president ever
clearly trump is not perfect but he is the best that ran
clearly trump is the most pro Israel then any other president

[Pavlov]

clearly trump is the most pro-abortion then any president ever
Agreed. He just hides them with NDAs.

[RandomGuy]

good for them for what


clearly trump is better for Christians then Clinton
clearly trump is the most pro-abortion then any president ever
clearly trump is not perfect but he is the best that ran
clearly trump is the most pro Israel then any other president

Trump seems to be leading Christians away from the message of Jesus, as these preachers point out, under threats from Falwell, etc.

Y'all work that out amongst yourselves.

https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/67001819/dont-want-to-welcome-middle-eastern-immigrants-jesus-has-thoughts.jpg

[RandomGuy]

Huh?

https://i2.wp.com/www.politicalirony.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/tumblr_n8ekpfiGYW1s8a1hno1_500.jpg?w=500

[RandomGuy]

good for them for what


clearly trump is better for Christians then Clinton
clearly trump is the most pro-abortion then any president ever
clearly trump is not perfect but he is the best that ran
clearly trump is the most pro Israel then any other president

842587633729527809

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7F4-wgVAAA8GLs.jpg

[Chris]

RandomGuy got them memes boy. Watch out!

[ducks]

Trump seems to be leading Christians away from the message of Jesus, as these preachers point out, under threats from Falwell, etc.

Y'all work that out amongst yourselves.

https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/67001819/dont-want-to-welcome-middle-eastern-immigrants-jesus-has-thoughts.jpg

whatever
you are out their on somethings

[RandomGuy]

RandomGuy got them memes boy. Watch out!

Don't have to. It was fun:


“We need to break out of our silos,” said Anne Boynton, an elder at First Christian Church, who was a local co-chairwoman for the revival. “This is an aspirational moment, an opportunity to experience what the kingdom of God looks like.”

What does the kingdom of God look like?

[RandomGuy]

RandomGuy got them memes boy. Watch out!


But Red Letter Christians and other evangelicals have increasingly become frustrated that their church appears to be endorsing Mr. Trump’s program of deporting immigrants, fanning racial tension and passing a tax deal benefiting the rich.

“This is not of God,” thundered Barbara Williams-Skinner, an influential black evangelical elder in Washington, D.C., as the audience stood and clapped at the revival. “This is not worthy of our savior. This is not what he died for.”

I have the bible. What do you have?

[Chris]

So Christians that support Trump aren't Christians because Barbara William-Skinner said so? Got it.

[RandomGuy]

So Christians that support Trump aren't Christians because Barbara William-Skinner said so? Got it.

She has the bible to support her position on that, based on what she says.

Personally, it didn't take me more than a cursory glance to see she had a point.

I guess the bible isn't your thing?

[RandomGuy]

whatever
you are out their on somethings

Sounds like you are butthurt about being called out as a shitty Christian.

Sokay. Most religious people in my experience tend to ignore their holy books when they find it convenient.

[ducks]

Which candidates according to her are you suppose to support ?

[ducks]

The Bible is about law and order

Where in the Bible does it say it is wrong to kick out criminals that come into their country illegally

Says you are to pay what belongs to the government

[Chris]

She has the bible to support her position on that, based on what she says.

Personally, it didn't take me more than a cursory glance to see she had a point.

I guess the bible isn't your thing?

“Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye."
-Matthew 7:1-5

“Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven"
-Luke 6:37

"Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment.”
-John 7:24

"Do not speak evil against one another, brothers. The one who speaks against a brother or judges his brother, speaks evil against the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge. There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor?"
-James 4:11-12

"To speak evil of no one, to avoid quarreling, to be gentle, and to show perfect courtesy toward all people. For we ourselves were once foolish, disobedient, led astray, slaves to various passions and pleasures, passing our days in malice and envy, hated by others and hating one another. But when the goodness and loving kindness of God our Savior appeared, he saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit, whom he poured out on us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior"
Titus 3:2-7

God Bless :tu

[Spurminator]

Free Speech Crisis on Campus!

[RandomGuy]

Which candidates according to her are you suppose to support ?

You should ask her. or... you know read the article. I gave you the summary, anything more is on you.

[RandomGuy]

“Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye."
-Matthew 7:1-5

“Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven"
-Luke 6:37

"Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment.”
-John 7:24

"Do not speak evil against one another, brothers. The one who speaks against a brother or judges his brother, speaks evil against the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge. There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor?"
-James 4:11-12

"To speak evil of no one, to avoid quarreling, to be gentle, and to show perfect courtesy toward all people. For we ourselves were once foolish, disobedient, led astray, slaves to various passions and pleasures, passing our days in malice and envy, hated by others and hating one another. But when the goodness and loving kindness of God our Savior appeared, he saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit, whom he poured out on us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior"
Titus 3:2-7

God Bless :tu

Which one of those quotes says that deporting desperate immigrants, sometimes to their deaths, is moral, Chris?

[baseline bum]

Trump seems to be leading Christians away from the message of Jesus, as these preachers point out, under threats from Falwell, etc.

Y'all work that out amongst yourselves.

https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/67001819/dont-want-to-welcome-middle-eastern-immigrants-jesus-has-thoughts.jpg

Meh the Southern Baptists were formed from the beginning to be a pro-slavery organization. There is nothing they're doing now that isn't consistent with the piece of shit organization they have been for almost 175 years now.

[ducks]

Where in the Bible does it say the USA is suppose to take care of everyone

taking care of other Christians is first if you are able to


the united states can not take care of everyone otherwise they would be a third world country

usa is trying with trade and helping other countries some
lots of third world countries if they was not corruption they would have better lifes

[ducks]

You should ask her. or... you know read the article. I gave you the summary, anything more is on you.

Not going to ask her

USA is not going to elect a pastor to be president

[RandomGuy]

Where in the Bible does it say the USA is suppose to take care of everyone

Leviticus 19:33-34 “When a stranger sojourns with you in your land, you shall not do him wrong. You shall treat the stranger who sojourns with you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.”

Matthew 25:35 “For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me.”

Deuteronomy 27:19 “Cursed be anyone who perverts the justice due to the sojourner, the fatherless, and the widow.’ And all the people shall say, ‘Amen.’

Hebrews 13:2 “Do not neglect to show hospitality to strangers, for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.”

Ezekiel 47:22 “You shall allot it as an inheritance for yourselves and for the sojourners who reside among you and have had children among you. They shall be to you as native-born children of Israel. With you they shall be allotted an inheritance among the tribes of Israel.”

Jeremiah 7:5-7 ““For if you truly amend your ways and your deeds, if you truly execute justice one with another, if you do not oppress the sojourner, the fatherless, or the widow, or shed innocent blood in this place, and if you do not go after other gods to your own harm, then I will let you dwell in this place, in the land that I gave of old to your fathers forever.”



Conclusion
The Old Testament and New Testament show that God accepts the person regardless of their background or their national origin. Just as it says in Leviticus 25:35: “If your brother becomes poor and cannot maintain himself with you, you shall support him as though he were a stranger and a sojourner, and he shall live with you” because God “executes justice for the fatherless and the widow, and loves the sojourner, giving him food and clothing” (Deut 10:18), so this is why in the coming Kingdom of God, or the New Jerusalem, that “people will come from east and west, and from north and south, and recline at table in the kingdom of God. And behold, some are last who will be first, and some are first who will be last” (Luke 13:29-30).

Article by Jack Wellman
Jack Wellman is Pastor of the Mulvane Brethren Church in Mulvane Kansas. Jack is also the Senior Writer at What Christians Want To Know whose mission is to equip, encourage, and energize Christians and to address questions about the believer’s daily walk with God and the Bible. You can follow Jack on Google Plus or check out his book Teaching Children the Gospel available on Amazon.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/christiancrier/2016/11/26/top-7-bible-verses-about-immigration/


It's your book dude. Maybe you should fucking read the thing, because from what I read it looks like you are a shitty Christian.

[RandomGuy]

“Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye."
-Matthew 7:1-5

“Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven"
-Luke 6:37

"Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment.”
-John 7:24

"Do not speak evil against one another, brothers. The one who speaks against a brother or judges his brother, speaks evil against the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge. There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor?"
-James 4:11-12

"To speak evil of no one, to avoid quarreling, to be gentle, and to show perfect courtesy toward all people. For we ourselves were once foolish, disobedient, led astray, slaves to various passions and pleasures, passing our days in malice and envy, hated by others and hating one another. But when the goodness and loving kindness of God our Savior appeared, he saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit, whom he poured out on us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior"
Titus 3:2-7

God Bless :tu

Which one of those quotes says its moral to separate children from their mothers and hold the kids on military bases?

[rjv]

What does the kingdom of God look like?


like iowa?

[ducks]

they can come into the country illegally
I have no problem with people coming into the country legal


you have problems with killings especially with guns you would ban them all

there are problems with some of the people that come into the country would you ban them all to

[ducks]

Which one of those quotes says its moral to separate children from their mothers and hold the kids on military bases?

that is on the laws of the united states

it was written so that less people would try to come into the country illegally

[ducks]

Don't have to. It was fun:


“We need to break out of our silos,” said Anne Boynton, an elder at First Christian Church, who was a local co-chairwoman for the revival. “This is an aspirational moment, an opportunity to experience what the kingdom of God looks like.”

What does the kingdom of God look like?

Look it up in the Bible

[Blake]

RandomGuy got them memes boy. Watch out!

Chris feeling threatened

[RandomGuy]

Which one of those quotes says its moral to separate children from their mothers and hold the kids on military bases?



that is on the laws of the united states

it was written so that less people would try to come into the country illegally

Doesn't answer my question.

Which one of those quotes says its moral to separate children from their mothers and hold the kids on military bases?

[rjv]

http://samuel-warde.com/samuel-warde.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/King-Trump-Bible.jpg

[RandomGuy]

Look it up in the Bible

Already did. I am guessing I know more about what is in the bible than you do, which is bloody ironic.

Leviticus 19:33-34 “When a stranger sojourns with you in your land, you shall not do him wrong. You shall treat the stranger who sojourns with you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.”

Matthew 25:35 “For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me.”

Deuteronomy 27:19 “Cursed be anyone who perverts the justice due to the sojourner, the fatherless, and the widow.’ And all the people shall say, ‘Amen.’

Hebrews 13:2 “Do not neglect to show hospitality to strangers, for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.”

Ezekiel 47:22 “You shall allot it as an inheritance for yourselves and for the sojourners who reside among you and have had children among you. They shall be to you as native-born children of Israel. With you they shall be allotted an inheritance among the tribes of Israel.”

Jeremiah 7:5-7 ““For if you truly amend your ways and your deeds, if you truly execute justice one with another, if you do not oppress the sojourner, the fatherless, or the widow, or shed innocent blood in this place, and if you do not go after other gods to your own harm, then I will let you dwell in this place, in the land that I gave of old to your fathers forever.”



Conclusion
The Old Testament and New Testament show that God accepts the person regardless of their background or their national origin. Just as it says in Leviticus 25:35: “If your brother becomes poor and cannot maintain himself with you, you shall support him as though he were a stranger and a sojourner, and he shall live with you” because God “executes justice for the fatherless and the widow, and loves the sojourner, giving him food and clothing” (Deut 10:18), so this is why in the coming Kingdom of God, or the New Jerusalem, that “people will come from east and west, and from north and south, and recline at table in the kingdom of God. And behold, some are last who will be first, and some are first who will be last” (Luke 13:29-30).

Article by Jack Wellman
Jack Wellman is Pastor of the Mulvane Brethren Church in Mulvane Kansas. Jack is also the Senior Writer at What Christians Want To Know whose mission is to equip, encourage, and energize Christians and to address questions about the believer’s daily walk with God and the Bible. You can follow Jack on Google Plus or check out his book Teaching Children the Gospel available on Amazon.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/christiancrier/2016/11/26/top-7-bible-verses-about-immigration/


It's your book dude. Maybe you should fucking read the thing, because from what I read it looks like you are a shitty Christian.

[RandomGuy]

RandomGuy got them memes boy. Watch out!

Leviticus 19:33-34 “When a stranger sojourns with you in your land, you shall not do him wrong. You shall treat the stranger who sojourns with you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.”

Matthew 25:35 “For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me.”

Deuteronomy 27:19 “Cursed be anyone who perverts the justice due to the sojourner, the fatherless, and the widow.’ And all the people shall say, ‘Amen.’

Hebrews 13:2 “Do not neglect to show hospitality to strangers, for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.”

Ezekiel 47:22 “You shall allot it as an inheritance for yourselves and for the sojourners who reside among you and have had children among you. They shall be to you as native-born children of Israel. With you they shall be allotted an inheritance among the tribes of Israel.”

Jeremiah 7:5-7 ““For if you truly amend your ways and your deeds, if you truly execute justice one with another, if you do not oppress the sojourner, the fatherless, or the widow, or shed innocent blood in this place, and if you do not go after other gods to your own harm, then I will let you dwell in this place, in the land that I gave of old to your fathers forever.”



Conclusion
The Old Testament and New Testament show that God accepts the person regardless of their background or their national origin. Just as it says in Leviticus 25:35: “If your brother becomes poor and cannot maintain himself with you, you shall support him as though he were a stranger and a sojourner, and he shall live with you” because God “executes justice for the fatherless and the widow, and loves the sojourner, giving him food and clothing” (Deut 10:18), so this is why in the coming Kingdom of God, or the New Jerusalem, that “people will come from east and west, and from north and south, and recline at table in the kingdom of God. And behold, some are last who will be first, and some are first who will be last” (Luke 13:29-30).

Article by Jack Wellman
Jack Wellman is Pastor of the Mulvane Brethren Church in Mulvane Kansas. Jack is also the Senior Writer at What Christians Want To Know whose mission is to equip, encourage, and energize Christians and to address questions about the believer’s daily walk with God and the Bible. You can follow Jack on Google Plus or check out his book Teaching Children the Gospel available on Amazon.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/christiancrier/2016/11/26/top-7-bible-verses-about-immigration/


It's your book dude. Maybe you should fucking read the thing, because from what I read it looks like you are a shitty Christian.

[Chris]

Why so angry RandomGuy?

[Pavlov]

Chris dodging dem Bible quotes.

[RandomGuy]

Why so angry RandomGuy?

Why do you hate the bible? I post something from it, and you completely ignore the Word of God and focus on me instead.

[ducks]

why not post all of it

[spurraider21]

why not post all of it
dont like to spread fake news

[Chris]

Why do you hate the bible? I post something from it, and you completely ignore the Word of God and focus on me instead.

You're still angry. Why is that?

[leemajors]

Where in the Bible does it say the USA is suppose to take care of everyone

taking care of other Christians is first if you are able to


the united states can not take care of everyone otherwise they would be a third world country

usa is trying with trade and helping other countries some
lots of third world countries if they was not corruption they would have better lifes

"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you".

[ducks]

I would not want to come into another country illegally and vote and claim I am being treated unfairly

I would want people who do that to be punished!
that is only right

I respect the laws on the state if I do not I move thus is why I do not live in California!

[leemajors]

I would not want to come into another country illegally and vote and claim I am being treated unfairly

I would want people who do that to be punished!
that is only right

I respect the laws on the state if I do not I move thus is why I do not live in California!

you're just making shit up, sad!

[ducks]

what would happen to you if you went to mexico and voted illegally!

[Pavlov]

Who are you saying has voted illegally?

[Chris]

"Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer. Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience. ..."
-Romans 13:1-7

Can be used to interpret legal immigration. Key word here: legal. :tu

"There shall be one law for the native and for the stranger who sojourns among you."
-Exodus 12:49

One law. Breaking it is not an option.

Romans 13:1–7 makes it abundantly clear that God expects us to obey the laws of the government. The only exception to this is when a law of the government forces us to disobey a command of God (Acts 5:29). Illegal immigration is the breaking of a government’s law. There is nothing in Scripture that contradicts the idea of a sovereign nation having immigration laws. Therefore, it is rebellion against God to unlawfully enter another country. Illegal immigration is a sin.

[Blake]

There is nothing in Scripture that contradicts the idea of a sovereign nation having immigration laws. Therefore, it is rebellion against God to unlawfully enter another country. Illegal immigration is a sin.

Oh so God commanding the Israelites to invade other nations is rebellion against God.

[Chris]

Oh so God commanding the Israelites to invade other nations is rebellion against God.

Is that your theory?

[Blake]

Is that your theory?

It's your rule

[Chris]

It's your rule

Huh?

[Blake]

Illiterate Chris doesn't even understand what he wrote

[Chris]

Illiterate Chris doesn't even understand what he wrote

Huh?

[ducks]

"Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer. Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience. ..."
-Romans 13:1-7

Can be used to interpret legal immigration. Key word here: legal. :tu

"There shall be one law for the native and for the stranger who sojourns among you."
-Exodus 12:49

One law. Breaking it is not an option.

Romans 13:1–7 makes it abundantly clear that God expects us to obey the laws of the government. The only exception to this is when a law of the government forces us to disobey a command of God (Acts 5:29). Illegal immigration is the breaking of a government’s law. There is nothing in Scripture that contradicts the idea of a sovereign nation having immigration laws. Therefore, it is rebellion against God to unlawfully enter another country. Illegal immigration is a sin.

BUT

I'm a veteran, and I don't feel disrespected.

I think it is awesome, and further note that the idea CAME from a veteran.

How's that for a fact?

[Chris]

BUT

:lol