Trump hired Israeli Intel Black Cube to spy on and entrap Americans

[djohn2oo8]

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What a turn of events for the spygate crew

[djohn2oo8]

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[Fabbs]

So did they get any dirt on Obama?

[djohn2oo8]

So did they get any dirt on Obama?
They were hired to spy on his administration to see who supported the Iran deal. Does that not warrant an investigation?

[Fabbs]

Nah I have zero faith in all these jerk off dog n pony show investigations.

[djohn2oo8]

Nah I have zero faith in all these jerk off dog n pony show investigations.

That did not answer the question. Americans spied on by a hostile foreign intel company, does not warrant further follow up?

[TSA]

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Obama admin must be terrified of the upcoming IG report. These spoon fed stories to friendly outlets are getting more and more desperate

“The source said he was told that the work was being carried out “for Trump,” but there is no evidence that the Trump administration had anything to do with the operation, which may have been commissioned by an outside group or agency with no connection to the administration.” :rollin

[djohn2oo8]

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[TSA]

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“The source said he was told that the work was being carried out “for Trump,” but there is no evidence that the Trump administration had anything to do with the operation, which may have been commissioned by an outside group or agency with no connection to the administration.”
:rollin

[Winehole23]

They were hired to spy on his administration to see who supported the Iran deal. Does that not warrant an investigation?shady corners of oppo research for sure, not sure there's any violation of law.

can you point to one? is it illegal to hire private investigators to check out your opposition?

[djohn2oo8]

shady corners of oppo research for sure, not sure there's any violation of law.

can you point to one? is it illegal to hire private investigators to check out your opposition?

Except one thing. Black Cube is a hostile foreign intelligence service, using personal information to spy on and discredit those who supported the Iran deal. That is epsionage. They are not just private investigators. They are foreign.

[djohn2oo8]

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Just an idea.

[Winehole23]

Except one thing. Black Cube is a hostile foreign intelligence service, using personal information to spy on and discredit those who supported the Iran deal. That is epsionage. They are not just private investigators. They are foreign.Assange has been declared a "non-state hostile intelligence service" by the CIA.

Black Cube has been declared a "hostile foreign intelligence service" by you.

See the difference?

[Winehole23]

I suppose Black Cube being an Israeli firm could be ginned up into a campaign law violation of some kind -- seems a bit of a stretch, though.

[djohn2oo8]

Assange has been declared a "non-state hostile intelligence service" by the CIA.

Black Cube has been declared a "hostile foreign intelligence service" by you.

See the difference?

Funny thing about that. Pompeo was tweeting praise of Wikileaks months before declaring then hostile. Black Cube has taken hostile actions towards different countries. That's why their operatives were arrested. They were running Black Ops on Americans, such as the phone calls.

[djohn2oo8]

I suppose Black Cube being an Israeli firm could be ginned up into a campaign law violation of some kind -- seems a bit of a stretch, though.

Just keep watch of this story.

[Winehole23]

Funny thing about that. Pompeo was tweeting praise of Wikileaks months before declaring then hostile. Black Cube has taken hostile actions towards different countries. That's why their operatives were arrested. They were running Black Ops on Americans, such as the phone calls.what you call black ops others would call oppo research.

where's the line between the two? if you have info about Black Cube agents getting arrested, please do share.

[djohn2oo8]

what you call black ops others would call oppo research.

where's the line between the two? if you have info about Black Cube agents getting arrested, please do share.

Oppo research is not calling up someone under a different identity to gather information, or to discredit. Google what black ops is.

[djohn2oo8]

what you call black ops others would call oppo research.

where's the line between the two? if you have info about Black Cube agents getting arrested, please do share.

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[djohn2oo8]

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This is not opposition research. That is an operation.

[djohn2oo8]

Also interesting that operation was launched days after Trump visited Israel.

[Winehole23]

shady stuff. I have no problem calling it unethical.

you think there should be an investigation, what laws do you think Black Cube is breaking in the US?

[djohn2oo8]

shady stuff. I have no problem calling it unethical.

you think there should be an investigation, what laws do you think Black Cube is breaking in the US?

Espionage for one. Especially if they were hired by Trump like the allegations are made out to be.

[djohn2oo8]

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Towards the end, having their kids names is just creepy.

[Winehole23]

Espionage for one. Especially if they were hired by Trump like the allegations are made out to be.Which law related to espionage is Black Cube breaking, in your opinion?

[Winehole23]

Oppo research is not calling up someone under a different identity to gather information, or to discredit. Google what black ops is.There's not a clear line, but there is a key distinction: black ops are generally actions of a government or the military not attributable to the same.

Trump qua private citizen (which as a candidate, he was) using a private intelligence firm to dig for dirt on political opponents isn't in the same category as the USG or the US military doing it.

[djohn2oo8]

There's not a clear line, but there is a key distinction: black ops are generally actions of a government or the military not attributable to the same.

Trump qua private citizen (which as a candidate, he was) using a private intelligence firm to dig for dirt on political opponents isn't in the same category as the USG or the US military doing it.

Often black ops. a secret mission or campaign carried out by a military, governmental, or other organization,typically one in which the organization conceals or denies its involvement

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It is not confined to just government or military. Let's say Trump did hire them. Oh yes you can believe Trump hiring a foreign intelligence firm to spy on Americans to undermine and discredit US policy and foreign relations is definitely a big fucking deal. You keep saying "Private". They were Foreign. A Foreign firm. Not American.

[Winehole23]

not sure why Black Cube being foreign makes such a big difference. had the firm been domestic it would have been kosher?

[TSA]

Often black ops. a secret mission or campaign carried out by a military, governmental, or other organization, typically one in which the organization conceals or denies its involvement

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It is not confined to just government or military. Let's say Trump did hire them. Oh yes you can believe Trump hiring a foreign intelligence firm to spy on Americans to undermine and discredit US policy and foreign relations is definitely a big fucking deal. You keep saying "Private". They were Foreign. A Foreign firm. Not American.

OP of a thread titled Trump hired Israeli black ops on page 2 now reduced to playing well let’s just say Trump did hire them hypotheticals.

:rollin

[djohn2oo8]

not sure why Black Cube being foreign makes such a big difference. had the firm been domestic it would have been kosher?

By Trump hiring them and using a foreign firm to discredit Americans is a little bit more obvious that there was intent to try and change US foreign policy before he was even in office. BTW, who pulled out of the Iran deal?

[djohn2oo8]

OP of a thread titled Trump hired Israeli black ops on page 2 now reduced to playing well let’s just say Trump did hire them hypotheticals.

:rollin

Wouldn't be laughing to hard with your FBI spying claims :lol

[Winehole23]

it would be just as reasonable to presume Israel asked Black Cube to do it a solid, but you don't hear anyone saying that,

[djohn2oo8]

it would be just as reasonable to presume Israel asked Black Cube to do it a solid, but you don't hear anyone saying that,

So Black Cube could just say it was Israel. But they won't even say who publicly. This is also the second story now accusing of Trump being involved.

[Pavlov]

Just a weird way to go about discrediting a multilateral agreement.

:lol going after the housewife

[Chris]

lol djohn

[boutons_deux]

Apparentl,y Wash DC and suburbs populated by DC people are saturated with cell phone stingers. Who's running them?

Trash refuses to use a secure phone

I remember Obama whining back in 08/09 about have to give up his beloved Blackberry for a secure, like serious adults do.

Trash, otoh, lives by made-up solipsistic law unto himself, until he decides to break them, and he always does, along with his promises.

Trash's only immutable law is self-aggrandizement/self-enrichment.

[koriwhat]

lmao at all you losers circle jerking each other over this shit

[boutons_deux]

same strategy.

If Repugs can "prove" the Iran deal negotiators "illegit" or criminal or conflicted, then the Iran deal is illegit

Same tactic used to prove Mueller, etc conflicted, illegit, so his investigation of Trash's crimes is illegit, must stop

[Winehole23]

By Trump hiring them and using a foreign firm to discredit Americans is a little bit more obvious that there was intent to try and change US foreign policy before he was even in office. BTW, who pulled out of the Iran deal?one way discredit policy is to dish dirt on the messengers. what's the big deal?

[Chris]

lol djohn

[koriwhat]

same strategy.

If Repugs can "prove" the Iran deal negotiators "illegit" or criminal or conflicted, then the Iran deal is illegit

Same tactic used to prove Mueller, etc conflicted, illegit, so his investigation of Trash's crimes is illegit, must stop

why do you want any type of deal with iran? fucking traitor.

[Pavlov]

why do you want any type of deal with iran? fucking traitor.Do you want a deal with North Korea?

Trump does.

[koriwhat]

Do you want a deal with North Korea?

Trump does.

anything to stop them from creating nukes. sure. iran otoh can burn in hell!

[Pavlov]

anything to stop them from creating nukes. sure. iran otoh can burn in hell!You don't want to stop Iran from creating nukes?

[Winehole23]

thought he meant NK

[Spurtacular]

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What a turn of events for the spygate crew

:lmao So, you're citing a guy who is whining about being discredited?
:lmao And that's your OP?
:lmao Today's chumpette.

[koriwhat]

You don't want to stop Iran from creating nukes?

lmao as if they were going to do so because of some stupid ass agreement/deal. they're so responsive to such a deal that when it falls apart they burn our flag while celebrating and claiming "death to america' but keep on being pav and rooting for such a regime as iran. fuck out of here traitor.

[Pavlov]

NK has nukes, btw.Yep. I assumed kw knew, but how could he?

[Pavlov]

lmao as if they were going to do so because of some stupid ass agreement/deal. there so responsive to such a deal that when it falls apart they burn our flag while celebrating and claiming "death to america' but keep on being pav and rooting for such a regime as iran. fuck out of here traitor.You didn't answer the question.

You don't want to stop Iran from creating nukes?

[Winehole23]

Spurtacular:

actually, the attempt to compromise Trita Parsi didn't work.

the Black Cube black op was a dud.

[koriwhat]

You didn't answer the question.

You don't want to stop Iran from creating nukes?

if i believed they haven't created a nuke by now then sure but lets not fool ourselves as much as you have fooled yourself into believing you're oh so progressive.

[AaronY]

Move over Muh Russia! It's Muh Israel! time

[Pavlov]

if i believed they haven't created a nuke by now then sure but lets not fool ourselves as much as you have fooled yourself into believing you're oh so progressive.Wait, you think Iran already has an operational nuclear weapon?

What is your evidence of this?

[koriwhat]

Wait, you think Iran already has an operational nuclear weapon?

What is your evidence of this?

what's your evidence that they don't? what's your evidence that they'd actually hold up their end of the agreement that has been dismantled? fuck iran and fuck those advocating to work with such a regime that would rather see our country burn. as far as i am concerned, people like yourself that are so hard up advocating for iran are the bigger threat to this country.

[Pavlov]

what's your evidence that they don't?No nuclear test explosions in Iran.

what's your evidence that they'd actually hold up their end of the agreement that has been dismantled?The recent agreement in which they held up their end and the US did not.
fuck iran and fuck those advocating to work with such a regime that would rather see our country burn. as far as i am concerned, people like yourself that are so hard up advocating for iran are the bigger threat to this country.I'm not advocating for Iran; I'm asking why you want to work with North Korea, which already has operational nuclear weapons, but not Iran which does not yet have operational nuclear weapons.

[koriwhat]

No nuclear test explosions in Iran.
The recent agreement in which they held up their end and the US did not.I'm not advocating for Iran; I'm asking why you want to work with North Korea, which already has operational nuclear weapons, but not Iran which does not yet have operational nuclear weapons.

if you haven't noticed yet by now, i don't believe most of what our gov't tells us and nothing iran has to say. WMD's ring a bell? shitty people in past admins had vested interest in that dirt shithole and here we are today.

as for NK, fuck them too but why were they not a priority during your golden god's era in office? hmm...

[Pavlov]

if you haven't noticed yet by now, i don't believe most of what our gov't tells us and nothing iran has to say. WMD's ring a bell? shitty people in past admins had vested interest in that dirt shithole and here we are today.So you think Trump is lying?


as for NK, fuck them too but why were they not a priority during your golden god's era in office? hmm...Obama was going to talk with them like he did Cuba and Iran, but decided not to reward their provocations the way Trump is now.

[ElNono]

counter-intel by other countries happen all the time, tbh...

This has Bibi written all over it, IMO. He was incredibly butthurt about the Iran deal, regardless if it was positive development for the US and the world as a whole or not...

[koriwhat]

So you think Trump is lying?

Obama was going to talk with them like he did Cuba and Iran, but decided not to reward their provocations the way Trump is now.

i'd be lying if i said i believe trump never lies. lmao trying to make this into some kind of stupid ass backhanded attempt at trying to make me out to be some sort of conservative depending on how i answer your dumbass question proposed.

as for obama, his whole presidency was a lie. in due time we'll find out just how far that lie goes and who was complicit.

[Pavlov]

i'd be lying if i said i believe trump never lies. lmao trying to make this into some kind of stupid ass backhanded attempt at trying to make me out to be some sort of conservative depending on how i answer your dumbass question proposed.Do you think Trump is lying about the Iranian nuclear program?


as for obama, his whole presidency was a lie. in due time we'll find out just how far that lie goes and who was complicit.What is your theory about Obama and Iran?

[Chris]

THE BLACK CUBE GUYS!

[koriwhat]

Do you think Trump is lying about the Iranian nuclear program?

What is your theory about Obama and Iran?

1) he lies. we all lie. grow up. as for his iranian nuke program comments, who knows?

2) they're one in the same.

[Pavlov]

1) he lies. we all lie. grow up. as for his iranian nuke program comments, who knows?:lol you can't bring yourself to say it.


2) they're one in the same.Explain how they are one and the same.

[koriwhat]

:lol you can't bring yourself to say it.

Explain how they are one and the same.

it's not a black or white thing pav. i don't work with the dude, i don't know him personally, and i don't fucking read minds as much as you'd like to believe that i can. either way, your phishing for the response you want isn't what you're going to get.

you always demand but never ever answer a god damn thing asked of you in the same manner. as always, like most losers on the left, you demand, demand, demand but i really don't give a fuck about your ilk or your demands you entitled loon.

[Pavlov]

it's not a black or white thing pav. i don't work with the dude, i don't know him personally, and i don't fucking read minds as much as you'd like to believe that i can. either way, your phishing for the response you want isn't what you're going to get.

you always demand but never ever answer a god damn thing asked of you in the same manner. as always, like most losers on the left, you demand, demand, demand but i really don't give a fuck about your ilk or your demands you entitled loon.:lol you never worked with Obama but you're damned sure about him.

It's not my fault there is no consistency in anything you ever say except for wishing death on other posters.

[koriwhat]

:lol you never worked with Obama but you're damned sure about him.

It's not my fault there is no consistency in anything you ever say except for wishing death on other posters.

well BHO was moving the embassy to Jerusalem wasn't he? oh wait...

btw the wishing death thing is hilarious too. i just wish sissys and pansys like yourself were sent to the desert to live with your brethren in that 3rd world shithole while you pander to your new masters who will do nothing but throw your progressive asses off of buildings and rape your kids while burning the American flag. it's the utopia yall seek so get off your ass already and go!

[Pavlov]

well BHO was moving the embassy to Jerusalem wasn't he? oh wait...Is that why you are 100% sure about Obama but not Trump?


btw the wishing death thing is hilarious too. i just wish sissys and pansys like yourself were sent to the desert to live with your brethren in that 3rd world shithole while you pander to your new masters who will do nothing but throw your progressive asses off of buildings and rape your kids while burning the American flag. it's the utopia yall seek so get off your ass already and go!No. You wished death on posters.

Don't try to walk it back now. There's no point.

[koriwhat]

Is that why you are 100% sure about Obama but not Trump?

No. You wished death on posters.

Don't try to walk it back now. There's no point.

i'm sure BHO is a huge fucking liar but he did bring change and hope... oh wait, he didn't bring either. he was a glorified wannabe celebrity.

as well, idgaf what i wished on who. you take life too seriously especially life on the internet. idgaf really what i say to any of yall here; have you not noticed that by now?

[Pavlov]

i'm sure BHO is a huge fucking liar but he did bring change and hope... oh wait, he didn't bring either. he was a glorified wannabe celebrity.How are you 100% sure about Obama but not Trump?


as well, idgaf what i wished on who. you take life too seriously especially life on the internet. idgaf really what i say to any of yall here; have you not noticed that by now?Of course you care. You wouldn't have tried to walk back your wishes of death had you not cared.

[koriwhat]

How are you 100% sure about Obama but not Trump?

Of course you care. You wouldn't have tried to walk back your wishes of death had you not cared.

i'm 100% sure BHO is a liar because he lied over and over again and was proven to be a liar.

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go die buddy. at the end of the day you won't see me shedding a tear. does that answer your bs questions and whatnot?

[Pavlov]

i'm 100% sure BHO is a liar because he lied over and over again and was proven to be a liar.And Trump hasn't?

:lol


go die buddy.:rollin

Why did you ever try to deny it?

[pgardn]

I wonder what Charles Schumer would say.

We need some new right posters.
Winehole, El Nono and even Pavs are having to help them.

[koriwhat]

And Trump hasn't?

:lol

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Why did you ever try to deny it?

this "liar" thing is funny. you dismiss the fact that i said trumps lies(your agenda not mine) and probably will continue to do so in one form or another. we're human after all and you casting stones when you're probably a pathological liar is hilarious.

people i don't know and don't care if they die. they meant nothing to me to begin with and nothing to me in death so what's the big deal really? your world is one in which all words are taken seriously because your life lacks humor or know-how to read between the lines.

[Winehole23]

We need some new right posters.
Winehole, El Nono and even Pavs are having to help them.I was trying to help djohn wrt the OP.

Flawed premises, hasty conclusions and a general tendency to rush analysis in the direction of a preexisting narrative.

[Winehole23]

in my eyes that makes djohn a fairly ordinary SpursTalker.

[DarrinS]

Black Cube bad

Fusion GPS good

[monosylab1k]

THE BLACK CUBE GUYS!

You believed in Pizzagate. Sit down.

[Pavlov]

this "liar" thing is funny. you dismiss the fact that i said trumps lies(your agenda not mine) and probably will continue to do so in one form or another. we're human after all and you casting stones when you're probably a pathological liar is hilarious.But you're not sure if Trump is lying about Iran although he has to be lying about Iran according to you.


people i don't know and don't care if they die. they meant nothing to me to begin with and nothing to me in death so what's the big deal really? your world is one in which all words are taken seriously because your life lacks humor or know-how to read between the lines.So your wishing death on people here is just your attempt at humor?

[Pavlov]

Black Cube bad

Fusion GPS goodDo you think Black Cube good, Darrin?

Yes or no.

[koriwhat]

But you're not sure if Trump is lying about Iran although he has to be lying about Iran according to you.

So your wishing death on people here is just your attempt at humor?

i'm sure trump lies just like i'm sure obama lies... and just like i'm sure you lie too. we're all liars. humanity in all its glory is not angelic in the least.

idgaf what i wish on anyone here tbqh. yall don't matter to me one bit. think of it this way, i don't know you personally so what's it to me whether or not i talk shit to you or wish anything on you? as far as i'm concerned you're a nobody and you're insignificant to me. like i said pav, die or don't, either way i won't be shedding a single tear. in the grand scheme of things though, i hope you prosper and live a long happy life but realistically i could not give a fuck either way.

[Chris]

You believed in Pizzagate. Sit down.

"Pedophiles don't use code words....deeeeeeeeerp!"

[koriwhat]

"Pedophiles don't use code words....deeeeeeeeerp!"

funny thing is they can name it whatever they'd like or dismiss it but reality is there's tons of pedo rings and individuals being brought down in the last yr+. can't deny that!

[Chris]

funny thing is they can name it whatever they'd like or dismiss it but reality is there's tons of pedo rings and individuals being brought down in the last yr+. can't deny that!

Of course they have to trivialize it. Coping mechanisms.

[koriwhat]

Of course they have to trivialize it. Coping mechanisms.

they're losers. they want to believe nothing bad happens on such a scale as what has come to light or they really don't give a damn about the kids tbh. i'm guessing they really just don't give a damn about the kids at the end of the day. it is the sjw MO though so not surprising at all to me.

[Chris]

they're losers. they want to believe nothing bad happens on such a scale as what has come to light or they really don't give a damn about the kids tbh. i'm guessing they really just don't give a damn about the kids at the end of the day. it is the sjw MO though so not surprising at all to me.

Pretty much. They care more about making a cheap joke at someone else's expense. You can't fix stupid.

[pgardn]

I was trying to help djohn wrt the OP.

Flawed premises, hasty conclusions and a general tendency to rush analysis in the direction of a preexisting narrative.

So Chris, Spurter, Koriwhat? can’t handle this?

[koriwhat]

So Chris, Spurter, Koriwhat? can’t handle this?

i'm just here to observe and lmao.

[ElNono]

lol echo chamber

[Pavlov]

i'm sure trump lies just like i'm sure obama lies... and just like i'm sure you lie too. we're all liars. humanity in all its glory is not angelic in the least.Yeah, but is he lying about Iran like you said?


idgaf what i wish on anyone here tbqh. yall don't matter to me one bit. think of it this way, i don't know you personally so what's it to me whether or not i talk shit to you or wish anything on you? as far as i'm concerned you're a nobody and you're insignificant to me. like i said pav, die or don't, either way i won't be shedding a single tear. in the grand scheme of things though, i hope you prosper and live a long happy life but realistically i could not give a fuck either way.That's a lot of words for someone who doesn't care tbh.

[DarrinS]

Move over Muh Russia! It's Muh Israel! time

:lol

[koriwhat]

Yeah, but is he lying about Iran like you said?

That's a lot of words for someone who doesn't care tbh.

sure, why not?!

and yall really wish i cared. i can def see that in the way you keep whoring around for attention pav.

[Pavlov]

sure, why not?!

and yall really wish i cared. i can def see that in the way you keep whoring around for attention pav.You're the one still caring about letting people know how much you don't care.

[Chris]

funny thing is they can name it whatever they'd like or dismiss it but reality is there's tons of pedo rings and individuals being brought down in the last yr+. can't deny that!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DeKv9lBU0AAfuUI.jpg:large

[Pavlov]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DeKv9lBU0AAfuUI.jpg:largeWhat's the source on that, Chris?

[TeyshaBlue]

So, djohn posts another Twitter nothing burger. Shocking.

[Winehole23]

So Chris, Spurter, Koriwhat? can’t handle this?They probably think they're regulating it.

[hater]

Wake me up when cnn and other mainstream media reports this :lmao

[Winehole23]

took me five seconds.

reports of a mainstream media blackout, as ever, are 100% wrong.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/05/08/what-is-black-cube-sciutto-pkg.cnn
https://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2018/05/07/lead-farrow-black-cube-iran-deal-live.cnn

[Pavlov]

Wake me up when cnn and other mainstream media reports this :lmao


took me five seconds.

reports of a mainstream media blackout, as ever, are 100% wrong.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/05/08/what-is-black-cube-sciutto-pkg.cnn
https://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2018/05/07/lead-farrow-black-cube-iran-deal-live.cnn
I called it.

[ElNono]

took me five seconds.

reports of a mainstream media blackout, as ever, are 100% wrong.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/05/08/what-is-black-cube-sciutto-pkg.cnn
https://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2018/05/07/lead-farrow-black-cube-iran-deal-live.cnn

:lol

[boutons_deux]

Weinstein also used Black Cube, and Kroll, to dig dirt on his oppents, victims.