View Full Version : Cliff Avril: Seahawks players questioned Carroll for trying to make Struggle the hero
Clipper Nation
05-26-2018, 12:28 PM
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Further confirmed by Bruce Irvin:
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Clipper Nation
05-26-2018, 12:30 PM
Avril said on Dave Dameshek's podcast that "a lot of guys got turned off" to Carroll when the Super Bowl ended with Russell Wilson throwing a game-losing interception to New England's Malcolm Butler, rather than the Seahawks calling a handoff to Marshawn Lynch, which Seattle players thought would have given them a game-winning touchdown.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/05/26/cliff-avril-seahawks-started-questioning-pete-carroll-after-super-bowl-interception/
Raven
05-26-2018, 03:16 PM
no brainer
DeadlyDynasty
05-27-2018, 02:15 AM
Everybody saw this coming after The Pick. Worst decision by a coaching staff and QB in NFL history.
Silver&Black
05-27-2018, 08:35 AM
Everybody saw this coming after The Pick. Worst decision by a coaching staff and QB in NFL history.
I remember being at my brothers house watching that game....
His wife (who doesn't know shit about football and the only player on the field she could name is Brady) said, "Why didn't they run the ball?" Even football novices knew to give the ball to Beast Mode. It is without a doubt the "worst decision by a coaching staff and QB in NFL history."
AaronY
05-27-2018, 12:27 PM
The interception itself was a remarkable play by butler. 99 times out of 100 thats a touchdown or incompletion
HarlemHeat37
05-27-2018, 01:48 PM
The best part is how so many dismissed this idea when we brought it up at the time:lol it was perceived as a conspiracy theory, but it seemed obvious to unbiased viewers that they were trying to make Wilson the hero..
Clipper Nation
05-27-2018, 02:41 PM
The best part is how so many dismissed this idea when we brought it up at the time:lol it was perceived as a conspiracy theory, but it seemed obvious to unbiased viewers that they were trying to make Wilson the hero..
It was obvious to anyone who isn't a Struggle fanboy when he didn't change the play at the LOS.
Bill_Brasky
05-27-2018, 10:50 PM
That was the worst decision in super bowl history.
UNT Eagles 2016
05-27-2018, 11:14 PM
The interception itself was a remarkable play by butler. 99 times out of 100 thats a touchdown or incompletion
Yes BUT...... the situation itself gave Butler that opportunity. He was playing slot corner against WR4 Lockette and all corners are asked to play inside leverage in that situation, so they can prepare to help out and possibly make a tackle against the run or defend the quick slant (which he did perfectly).
You don't worry too much about the goal line fade, especially if you're a slot corner, because a small receiver like Lockette isn't going to be successful at that type of out-breaking route when lined up inside (plus, that would take too long to develop). Only guy who was a threat for that is Kearse and he was lined up outside.
As a slot corner you shade inside 100% of the time in that situation, and Butler did and made the correct break on the ball. Lockette was their smallest and worst receiver, I don't think it was that hard of a play IMO.
Avante
05-31-2018, 12:41 PM
Russell Wilson was playing in his second SB in his first three seasons. As we know 1-1 and a yard away from 2-0.
Fran Tarkenton 0-3
Jim Kelly 0-4
John Unitas 0-1 (didn't start)
Dan Marino 0-1
Dan Fouts never played in a SB
Warren Moon never played in a SB
All in the Hall of Fame
Philip Rivers, Matt Ryan, Cam Newton, Matthew Stafford have never won a SB.
Soon Wilson will be voted in the top 15 (10?) NFL players heading into 2018. Was ranked 17 in 2017.
What the guy has accomplished if talking stats, playoffs, wins in unmatched in pro football history for a guy with his experience or lack of it.
Only football know nothings could/would criticize this amazing QB.
Those in the know pretty much go with....
Current
Rodgers/Brady
Brees
Big Ben
Right here we start talking Russell Wilson
Keep in mind when the players vote Wilson in at 12ish, don't be.......what the hell do they know. That could be said abourt Cliff Avril and Bruce Irvin and the above, right?
Avante
06-06-2018, 11:47 AM
Next up the Top 30 NFL Players, and still no Russell Wilson.
So it appears this football fan who has seen them all since the late 50's sees Wilson as a future HOFer and currently the 4th/5th best QB in the NFL. The players agree.
Only one not getting this thinks Tom Savage is.........hahahaha~~~~~~~~
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