LOL David Hogg Isn't Even A "Survivor"

[Spurtacular]

"On the day of the shooting, I got my camera and got my bike and rode as fast as I could three miles to the school to get as much video and get as many interviews as I could."

4:25


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUOkBv6wMhc

Google this and you'll find a lot of sperm shielding by Google saying this is just "internet bloggers" making "false claims." One page says it's just "based on a 14-second clip" as if short time makes it wrong. :lol

And ElNono, let's see what the truth bearers of Snopes have to say: they call the claim False. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/david-hogg-on-campus-rumor-hoax/

They just cite the claim and pretend their blather refutes it. The ole ChumpDumper strategy. :lol Still gonna stand by them cos they "source every thing" or can you come to terms with the fact that they're anenda-driven organization?

[AaronY]

BREAKING STORY

[Spurtacular]

BREAKING STORY

You mock me instead of your state-sponsored media.

:lmao "nother level"

[Pavlov]

"On the day of the shooting, I got my camera and got my bike and rode as fast as I could three miles to the school to get as much video and get as many interviews as I could."

4:25


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUOkBv6wMhc

Google this and you'll find a lot of sperm shielding by Google saying this is just "internet bloggers" making "false claims." One page says it's just "based on a 14-second clip" as if short time makes it wrong. :lol

And ElNono, let's see what the truth bearers of Snopes have to say: they call the claim False. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/david-hogg-on-campus-rumor-hoax/

They just cite the claim and pretend their blather refutes it. The ole ChumpDumper strategy. :lol Still gonna stand by them cos they "source every thing" or can you come to terms with the fact that they're anenda-driven organization?I'll go with RedState.com -- they say he was in the school during the shooting. Who am I to argue with their agenda?

[Spurtacular]

I'll go with RedState.com -- they say he was in the school during the shooting. Who am I to argue with their agenda?

I know you'll go with a tertiary source over a primary source. This is why I called you out on your sourcing BS the other day, saying you still only go with the sources that fit your bull shit narratives. :lmao

[Pavlov]

I know you'll go with a tertiary source over a primary source. This is why I called you out on your sourcing BS the other day, saying you still only go with the sources that fit your bull shit narratives. :lmaoWhich source are you using, derp?

[Spurtacular]

:cry I'm not paying attention :cry
:cry Please spoonfeed me :cry

[Pavlov]

I shut you down immediately today.

You already have seen your failure.

Too late to take it back, derp.

You'll try some more fake quotes and other tired tactics, but it won'tr work.

lol

[Spurminator]

Two threads about David Hogg by the same OP within 20 minutes of each other.

smh obsessed

[Spurtacular]

I shut you down immediately today.

You already have seen your failure.

Too late to take it back, derp.

You'll try some more fake quotes and other tired tactics, but it won'tr work.

lol

:lol The blather coming out
:lol The only thing you've done is given us a first-hand demo on why chasing down links for you is an utter waste of time (in your context of "proving the claim").

[Pavlov]

:lol The blather coming out
:lol The only thing you've done is given us a first-hand demo on why chasing down links for you is an utter waste of time (in your context of "proving the claim").So you're saying Hogg wasn't at the shooting at all and only went to the school after he heard about the shooting?

This is your story?

[Spurtacular]

Two threads about David Hogg by the same OP within 20 minutes of each other.

smh obsessed

Damn, I knew this sour call was coming. Kicking myself for not doing an inb4. :lmao

[Spurtacular]

So you're saying Hogg wasn't at the shooting at all and only went to the school after he heard about the shooting?

This is your story?

That's certainly David Hogg's personal narrative / "story".

[koriwhat]

I shut you down immediately today.

You already have seen your failure.

Too late to take it back, derp.

You'll try some more fake quotes and other tired tactics, but it won'tr work.

lol

god damn you're pathetic and fuck that bullshitter fake ass david hogg.

[Spurminator]

Damn, I knew this sour call was coming. Kicking myself for not doing an inb4. :lmao

Why don't you start a third thread on him, then you can "do an inb4" on people mocking your obsession in that thread. Just imagine the glory you'll get to relish with that sick burn.

[djohn2oo8]

god damn you're pathetic and fuck that bullshitter fake ass david hogg.

Pretty sure Hogg ain't no fruitcake with calf tats and jean shorts.

[Pavlov]

That's certainly David Hogg's personal narrative / "story".And what time was it when he went to school on his bike?


god damn you're pathetic and fuck that bullshitter fake ass david hogg.lol I trigger you as much as Hogg does.

[koriwhat]

bunch of hacks trying to gain celeb status. ftw

[Spurtacular]

Why don't you start a third thread on him, then you can "do an inb4" on people mocking your obsession in that thread. Just imagine the glory you'll get to relish with that sick burn.

1:30 So many Jerrys on this board. :lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ihVZ-uOQU0

[koriwhat]

Pretty sure Hogg ain't no fruitcake with calf tats and jean shorts.

pretty sure he ain't no stupid dog eating chink either huh? lol standing up for a fake like hogg but you're a fake too so not so surprising after all.

[Spurtacular]

And what time was it when he went to school on his bike?



Shit or get off the pot, Detective Chump. :lol

[koriwhat]

And what time was it when he went to school on his bike?

lol I trigger you as much as Hogg does.

you don't trigger anyone. i think i can say with confidence that what you are is a thorn around here and a very weak pathetic one at that.

[Pavlov]

Shit or get off the pot, Detective Chump. :lolSorry, I asked you.

What time was it when he went to school on his bike?

I guess you cold just whine more. You sure as hell don't want to talk about Hogg anymore.

lol



you don't trigger anyone. i think i can say with confidence that what you are is a thorn around here and a very weak pathetic one at that.Great, just wish death on me so you can get on with wishing death on others here.

lol

[koriwhat]

Great, just wish death on me so you can get on with wishing death on others here.

oh boohoo pav... see you really are the pathetic schmuck you claim not to be.

[Pavlov]

oh boohoo pav... see you really are the pathetic schmuck you claim not to be.Anything to add besides the regular death wishing?

[Spurtacular]

https://i.imgflip.com/2b445d.jpg

:lmao

[Pavlov]

:lmaoYou're the one filibustering.

Question pending for you:

What time was it when he went to school on his bike?

Answer or whine some more.

[Spurtacular]

You're the one filibustering.

Question pending for you:

What time was it when he went to school on his bike?

Answer or whine some more.

It's readily apparent from the quote that he went to school after the shootings had occurred.

[Chris]

Deep State Hogg. The kids love him though.

[Pavlov]

It's readily apparent from the quote that he went to school after the shootings had occurred.Went back to school, yes.

At 6 PM.

In his own words.


At 6 pm after the shooting, I took my camera, got on my bike.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/20/17030294/florida-shooting-survivor-david-hogg-gun-control

Turns out he talked to more than one person about that day. That's from an interview done more than a month before the video in your OP.

Also, Ashley Kurth, the teacher who stopped Hogg and dozens of other students from going in the direction of the shooter gave an interview with Hogg also a month before the CBS story.

C3grouDLNt0

She took the names of the students she kept in her room.

David Hogg was one of those names.

Another direct quote:


I physically grabbed David by the arm and pulled him into my room.

https://q107.com/news/4115632/florida-school-shooting-david-hogg-fake-story/

I guess you have to say she's in on the conspiracy now, right.

The best part is you fell for exactly the same simple ambiguity the Red State reporter did. She say exactly what she did wrong and you couldn't be bothered to read it even though you linked the article yourself.

So there are my sources proving David Hogg was at the school during the shooting.

Any questions?

lol derp

[monosylab1k]

:lmao so many conservatives triggered by the Boss Hogg

[djohn2oo8]

pretty sure he ain't no stupid dog eating chink either huh? lol standing up for a fake like hogg but you're a fake too so not so surprising after all.
Shut up Biff. Get back to the kitchen where you belong and make us all sandwiches.

[Spurtacular]

Went back to school, yes.

At 6 PM.

In his own words.



https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/20/17030294/florida-shooting-survivor-david-hogg-gun-control

Turns out he talked to more than one person about that day. That's from an interview done more than a month before the video in your OP.

Also, Ashley Kurth, the teacher who stopped Hogg and dozens of other students from going in the direction of the shooter gave an interview with Hogg also a month before the CBS story.

C3grouDLNt0

She took the names of the students she kept in her room.

David Hogg was one of those names.

Another direct quote:



https://q107.com/news/4115632/florida-school-shooting-david-hogg-fake-story/

I guess you have to say she's in on the conspiracy now, right.

The best part is you fell for exactly the same simple ambiguity the Red State reporter did. She say exactly what she did wrong and you couldn't be bothered to read it even though you linked the article yourself.

So there are my sources proving David Hogg was at the school during the shooting.

Any questions?

lol derp

You think that his story changed proves something other than he's a liar? :lmao

[Pavlov]

You think that his story changed proves something other than he's a liar? :lmaoHe didn't change his story at all, derp.

lol

[koriwhat]

Anything to add besides the regular death wishing?

did i wish you death today? lmao the merrygoround with ST's biggest pansy sissy boy pav.


Shut up Biff. Get back to the kitchen where you belong and make us all sandwiches.

so damn funny! please stop mencia... my sides are splitting! ugh i can't handle the laughter of your comedy gold! oh man too funny! you make pryor look like a schmuck compared to your comedy genius.

[Pavlov]

did i wish you death today?You'll get around to it after I trigger you some more.

You're pretty weak-willed that way tbh.

[koriwhat]

You'll get around to it after I trigger you some more.

You're pretty weak-willed that way tbh.

you need to get off the pedestal you're standing on because we all know deep down you're just a bitch.

[Pavlov]

you need to get off the pedestal you're standing on because we all know deep down you're just a bitch.I'm currently in a chair.

You need to cut down on the rageposting . It lost any effect it may have had a long time ago.

[koriwhat]

I'm currently in a chair.

You need to cut down on the rageposting . It lost any effect it may have had a long time ago.

boohoo pav :cry

that's all i imagine every time you post. bunch of tears in them eyes of yours and a lot of "i'm gonna show him/them!".

[Pavlov]

boohoo pav :cry

that's all i imagine every time you post. bunch of tears in them eyes of yours and a lot of "i'm gonna show him/them!".That would be inaccurate. I just kind of snicker whenever I see your name on a post header because I know it will just be incoherent fury that says nothing at all.

[Spurtacular]

He didn't change his story at all, derp.

lol

Hogg was sitting at home when he heard about the shots fired, and he then rode his bike three miles to the school to get videos and interviews. That's his story. If you say he didn't change it, then okay. :lol

[Pavlov]

Hogg was sitting at home when he heard about the shots firedWhere's the quote saying that, derp?

Looks like you just made it up.

Let's see your primary source for that one.

[monosylab1k]

Boss Hogg got conservatives shook :lmao

[koriwhat]

That would be inaccurate. I just kind of snicker whenever I see your name on a post header because I know it will just be incoherent fury that says nothing at all.

:cry :cry :cry

[Pavlov]

:cry :cry :cryYep, just like that.

Your wishing death on me is just a few posts away now.

[djohn2oo8]

Yep, just like that.

Your wishing death on me is just a few posts away now.

Thats the Koriwhat special.

[ElNono]

This has been dispelled as fake news a long time ago, tbh...

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/os-not-real-news-school-shooting-student-20180330-story.html

[ElNono]

Snopes is, indeed, correct.

I don't get why the hatred for a person drives people to make stuff up.

[Spurtacular]

This has been dispelled as fake news a long time ago, tbh...

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/os-not-real-news-school-shooting-student-20180330-story.html

Sure, if you think Hogg was somehow lying about not being at school at the time of the shooting. :lmao

[spurraider21]

Sure, if you think Hogg was somehow lying about not being at school at the time of the shooting. :lmao
He never said that tbh

[Spurtacular]

Snopes is, indeed, correct.

I don't get why the hatred for a person drives people to make stuff up.

It's his own story, dude.

[koriwhat]

He never said that tbh

actually hogg stated in one video that he was there when the shooting first started and then, in another interview, he said he saw what was happening on the news and got on his bike to document the shooting. so which one is the lie and which one is the truth? i would bet both are fake news.

poor little hogg, his fbi daddy, and his cnn mommy.

[koriwhat]

Thats the Koriwhat special.

lol yall butt buddies are too much... keep up the accusation/speculation game because make believe world just wouldn't be the same without you two hacks.

[Reck]

Pretty sure Hogg ain't no fruitcake with calf tats and jean shorts.

Dont forget tube socks.

[spurraider21]

actually hogg stated in one video that he was there when the shooting first started and then, in another interview, he said he saw what was happening on the news and got on his bike to document the shooting. so which one is the lie and which one is the truth? i would bet both are fake news.

poor little hogg, his fbi daddy, and his cnn mommy.
Nah. He never said he wasn’t at school during the shooting. He said when he saw that media outlets were reporting he rode his bike back to school to do interviews

- at school during shooting
- goes home
- comes back to do interviews

not controversial tbh

[Spurtacular]

He never said that tbh

Let's go to your heroes for the obvious rebuttal here:


You're entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.


You're entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

:lol

[spurraider21]

Let's go to your heroes for the obvious rebuttal here:





:lol
I agree with those statements. Hogg never said he wasn’t at school during the shooting. All he said was later that day when he saw media was doing interviews he biked to school to take part

[Spurtacular]

Nah. He never said he wasn’t at school during the shooting. He said when he saw that media outlets were reporting he rode his bike back to school to do interviews

- at school during shooting
- goes home
- comes back to do interviews

not controversial tbh

What a crock of shit. He wouldn't have evacuated the school and went home without knowing something had went down. The bull shit you try to tell yourself. :lmao

[ElNono]

Sure, if you think Hogg was somehow lying about not being at school at the time of the shooting. :lmao


It's his own story, dude.

Dude, that's a quote out of context, as explained to you 1329037483743289472389 times and properly documented at snopes.

A teacher in the freaking school is quoted (by a reputable source like the AP) saying she physically pulled him into a closet during the time of the shooting.

I know some clowns here are going to laugh at you, but I won't. I think it's pretty clear you fell for fake news (not the first one to fall for it, tbh) and in spite of actually realizing and accepting you've been duped, your incomprehensible hate and anger for this kid (who might be a dumbass or whatever, don't know him), makes you cling to some alternate reality that doesn't exist. Even the source of the original fake news retracted and apologized, eons ago.

Side note: I truly don't get the hate, anger and vitriol for somebody you don't know, because they have a different opinion/worldview. It's sad and pathetic. I understand thinking the guy is a dumbass, whatever, but getting seething mad over it? come on.

[monosylab1k]

:lmao so desperate to shut down the Hogg Revolution that you have to lie about a high school kid. And then your lies are semen shielded by a confirmed crack smoker :lmao

[koriwhat]

:lmao so desperate to shut down the Hogg Revolution that you have to lie about a high school kid. And then your lies are semen shielded by a confirmed crack smoker :lmao

you know man, the trolling by some of yall here is just whack. you want to lump me in with crackheads then so be it because i can't do anything about it but not once have i ever been around crack cocaine, smoked or injected crack cocaine, nor do i associate with crack addicts. you might want to find a new hobby because your lies are sure adding up and your trolling is sub par at best.

you're just mad because i think you're a pussy mr fake mono. go pretend to be another person like you did yrs back because you're nothing but a fraud to begin with.

[koriwhat]

hey mono and hogg have something in common.... lies and fraud.

[monosylab1k]

you know man, the trolling by some of yall here is just whack. you want to lump me in with crackheads then so be it because i can't do anything about it but not once have i ever been around crack cocaine, smoked or injected crack cocaine, nor do i associate with crack addicts. you might want to find a new hobby because your lies are sure adding up and your trolling is sub par at best.

you're just mad because i think you're a pussy mr fake mono. go pretend to be another person like you did yrs back because you're nothing but a fraud to begin with.

You said yourself you've frequented trap houses :lmao either you’re smoking or you’re dealing, and you sure as hell ain’t a dealer.

[koriwhat]

You said yourself you've frequented trap houses :lmao either you’re smoking or you’re dealing, and you sure as hell ain’t a dealer.

you have no clue what you speak of to begin with little man... go back to playing with your chinese checkers.

you're out of your league wannabe. try to make more friends online because we know you ain't got any in real life mr make believe.

[monosylab1k]

been in plenty of trap houses...

:lmao how do you pay for your crack when your only source of income is shitty bootleg tattoos? How much black cock have you sucked for some crack?

[koriwhat]

:lmao how do you pay for your crack when your only source of income is shitty bootleg tattoos? How much black cock have you sucked for some crack?

someones feelings got hurt... boohoo mono. if anyone wants to see what a real bitch looks like then look no further than mono.

[monosylab1k]

:lmao sucking cock for crack confirmed

[koriwhat]

:lmao sucking cock for crack confirmed

^ 7th graders... who are in the 30's.

[Reck]

^ 7th graders... who are in the 30's.

Wait..you think David Hogg is in the 30 year old range? :lmao

[Spurtacular]

Dude, that's a quote out of context, as explained to you 1329037483743289472389 times and properly documented at snopes.

A teacher in the freaking school is quoted (by a reputable source like the AP) saying she physically pulled him into a closet during the time of the shooting.

I know some clowns here are going to laugh at you, but I won't. I think it's pretty clear you fell for fake news (not the first one to fall for it, tbh) and in spite of actually realizing and accepting you've been duped, your incomprehensible hate and anger for this kid (who might be a dumbass or whatever, don't know him), makes you cling to some alternate reality that doesn't exist. Even the source of the original fake news retracted and apologized, eons ago.

Side note: I truly don't get the hate, anger and vitriol for somebody you don't know, because they have a different opinion/worldview. It's sad and pathetic. I understand thinking the guy is a dumbass, whatever, but getting seething mad over it? come on.

First off, AP peddles all types of BS. "Reputable" is just what you want to tell yourself at the end of the day.

So, your thought is that that drama queen suffered a traumatic event (if we're going by that teacher's supplemental account) and then went home to chill and then decided he needed to rush back to the school? Come on, bro; use the common sense that God gave you. At a minimum, you know something here is amiss.

[Spurtacular]

Side note: I truly don't get the hate, anger and vitriol for somebody you don't know, because they have a different opinion/worldview. It's sad and pathetic. I understand thinking the guy is a dumbass, whatever, but getting seething mad over it? come on.

You don't know why lies and propaganda in an attempt to take away rights and further the police state makes people concerned? More of that common sense God gave you thing, bro.

[dabom]

Dude, that's a quote out of context, as explained to you 1329037483743289472389 times and properly documented at snopes.

A teacher in the freaking school is quoted (by a reputable source like the AP) saying she physically pulled him into a closet during the time of the shooting.

I know some clowns here are going to laugh at you, but I won't. I think it's pretty clear you fell for fake news (not the first one to fall for it, tbh) and in spite of actually realizing and accepting you've been duped, your incomprehensible hate and anger for this kid (who might be a dumbass or whatever, don't know him), makes you cling to some alternate reality that doesn't exist. Even the source of the original fake news retracted and apologized, eons ago.

Side note: I truly don't get the hate, anger and vitriol for somebody you don't know, because they have a different opinion/worldview. It's sad and pathetic. I understand thinking the guy is a dumbass, whatever, but getting seething mad over it? come on.

It's easier debating smart people. They know when to take a loss. But at least they ain't fucking retarded. :lol

[DMC]

:lmao sucking cock for crack confirmed

Catchy phrase, almost like "hands up, don't shoot". Could start a movement. What would the hand gestures be for that?

[Pavlov]

First off, AP peddles all types of BS. "Reputable" is just what you want to tell yourself at the end of the day.

So, your thought is that that drama queen suffered a traumatic event (if we're going by that teacher's supplemental account) and then went home to chill and then decided he needed to rush back to the school? Come on, bro; use the common sense that God gave you. At a minimum, you know something here is amiss.

That's exactly what he has said from day one. I don't know what you think you are onto here but the person who peddled your conspiracy theory in the first place issued the most thorough retraction and apology I've ever seen.

He took video during the shooting and after 6 just like he said.

But YOU alone know the real story, right?

lol

[Spurtacular]

That's exactly what he has said from day one. I don't know what you think you are onto here but the person who peddled your conspiracy theory in the first place issued the most thorough retraction and apology I've ever seen.

He took video during the shooting and after 6 just like he said.

But YOU alone know the real story, right?

lol

No clarity. It's what you do when you got nothing. You still felt the need to add some blather though; you must not've been feeling confident.

[Pavlov]

No clarity. It's what you do when you got nothing. You still felt the need to add some blather though; you must not've been feeling confident.
lol I gave you all the primary sources you demanded. What more could there be?

You still have yet to produce a quote from home saying he wasn't at the shooting.

Where is it, derp?

[ElNono]

First off, AP peddles all types of BS. "Reputable" is just what you want to tell yourself at the end of the day.

So, your thought is that that drama queen suffered a traumatic event (if we're going by that teacher's supplemental account) and then went home to chill and then decided he needed to rush back to the school? Come on, bro; use the common sense that God gave you. At a minimum, you know something here is amiss.

Ridiculous. What evidence do you have that AP fabricates stories or quotes? That's your claim. That teacher was all over the news for her heroic act, not just AP (a cursory search for Ashley Kurth would tell you as much).

I'm not in the kid's brain, I have no idea what he was thinking, nor I need to know either, that's completely besides the point.

Do you understand the ridiculousness of what you're engaging on? There's no two sets of events here. He was at the school during the shooting, per first hand witness account.

Even the entity that created the bullshit you're riding on retracted it already, but you keep going? And you tell me to use common sense? At this point you gotta be trolling, tbh.

[Spurtacular]

lol I gave you all the primary sources you demanded. What more could there be?

You still have yet to produce a quote from home saying he wasn't at the shooting.

Where is it, derp?

He was at home when he saw the news and he peddowed his bike weally weally fast to get their to be a activist jownowist. Twy to keep up.

[spurraider21]

What a crock of shit. He wouldn't have evacuated the school and went home without knowing something had went down. The bull shit you try to tell yourself. :lmao
He along with other students were evacuated. Of course he knew shit went down. He was there for it and took videos while school was on lockdown. He then went home. I know, it takes a serious psycho to want to go home and be with parents after an event like that, but that’s what he did. Later media gathered at school to do interviews and he headed back.

No conspiracy required.

[Pavlov]

He was at home when he saw the news and he peddowed his bike weally weally fast to get their to be a activist jownowist. Twy to keep up.

That's you saying that.

Where is the quote from Hogg himself saying he wasn't at the school during the shooting?

I gave you quotes directly from him. You haven't.

Still waiting for you, derp.

[spurraider21]

He was at home when he saw the news and he peddowed his bike weally weally fast to get their to be a activist jownowist. Twy to keep up.
Yup. After the shooting he was evacuated and went home. Then, when he was home, he saw the media was doing interviews and he peddled his bike weally weally fast to get there to be an activist journalist.

[ElNono]

You don't know why lies and propaganda in an attempt to take away rights and further the police state makes people concerned? More of that common sense God gave you thing, bro.

There's a huge difference between 'concern' and 'personally mad/angry'. That *IS* common sense. If your conspiracy theories make you actually mad/angry at people you don't know, you need help. Like, professional help.

[Spurtacular]

Ridiculous. What evidence do you have that AP fabricates stories or quotes? That's your claim. That teacher was all over the news for her heroic act, not just AP (a cursory search for Ashley Kurth would tell you as much).

I'm not in the kid's brain, I have no idea what he was thinking, nor I need to know either, that's completely besides the point.

Do you understand the ridiculousness of what you're engaging on? There's no two sets of events here. He was at the school during the shooting, per first hand witness account.

Even the entity that created the bullshit you're riding on retracted it already, but you keep going? And you tell me to use common sense? At this point you gotta be trolling, tbh.

The teacher was there. That doesn't mean she wouldn't tell what she considers a white lie if it'll help a cause she wants to promote or even merely as a favor to Hogg.

And again, even her story doesn't match up with the BS Hogg was saying. The 65 people in her room were WELL AWARE OF THE SHOOTING. Hogg had said he was not aware of the shooting when he rode his bicycle to the campus. Trolling my ass, bitch. You don't want to do simple detective work cos you really really really want to believe.

http://www.businessinsider.com/white-house-leak-trump-kelly-sadler-schlapp-trump-2018-5

[Reck]

He was at home when he saw the news and he peddowed his bike weally weally fast to get their to be a activist jownowist. Twy to keep up.

He did what with his bike? :lmao

:lol The peddowed gate.

[spurraider21]

The teacher was there. That doesn't mean she wouldn't tell what she considers a white lie if it'll help a cause she wants to promote or even merely as a favor to Hogg.

And again, even her story doesn't match up with the BS Hogg was saying. The 65 people in her room were WELL AWARE OF THE SHOOTING. Hogg had said he was not aware of the shooting when he rode his bicycle to the campus. Trolling my ass, bitch. You don't want to do simple detective work cos you really really really want to believe.

http://www.businessinsider.com/white-house-leak-trump-kelly-sadler-schlapp-trump-2018-5
No tbh. This is where your story falls apart. He never said that he wasn’t aware of the shooting. When he saw media was there doing interviews he biked back to school.

[Pavlov]

The teacher was there. That doesn't mean she wouldn't tell what she considers a white lie if it'll help a cause she wants to promote or even merely as a favor to Hogg.

And again, even her story doesn't match up with the BS Hogg was saying. The 65 people in her room were WELL AWARE OF THE SHOOTING. Hogg had said he was not aware of the shooting when he rode his bicycle to the campus. Trolling my ass, bitch. You don't want to do simple detective work cos you really really really want to believe.

http://www.businessinsider.com/white-house-leak-trump-kelly-sadler-schlapp-trump-2018-5
lol McCain link

You need to take a deep breath and see what the nicer people are trying to tell you.

[ElNono]

The teacher was there. That doesn't mean she wouldn't tell what she considers a white lie if it'll help a cause she wants to promote or even merely as a favor to Hogg.

And again, even her story doesn't match up with the BS Hogg was saying. The 65 people in her room were WELL AWARE OF THE SHOOTING. Hogg had said he was not aware of the shooting when he rode his bicycle to the campus. Trolling my ass, bitch. You don't want to do simple detective work cos you really really really want to believe.

http://www.businessinsider.com/white-house-leak-trump-kelly-sadler-schlapp-trump-2018-5

Wrong link?

But I don't even need it. Let's put together all your claims (without a shred of evidence) so far:
1) Kid wasn't at school during shooting
2) Teacher lies for kid
3) Kid said he was not aware of shooting
4) None of the other 65 people in the room came out and corroborated that kid wasn't at school for shooting and that the teacher was lying

We know 1) is false, because the creator of said fake news, already admitted it took a quote out of context, and retracted the claim.

2, 3, 4? All your claims. Since you did your 'simple detective' work, lets see it.

[ElNono]

Or were all the other 65 people 'in' (wink, wink) on it?

You tell me to use common sense, but what you're doing is taking a huge leap of faith. I don't do faith.

[dabom]

Someone call 911. We just witnessed a murder. :lmao

[ElNono]

Also, would be good to know how AP fabricates stories too, tbh... as far as I know, anything that's not opinion is reputable.

[Spurtacular]

Or were all the other 65 people 'in' (wink, wink) on it?

You tell me to use common sense, but what you're doing is taking a huge leap of faith. I don't do faith.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/this-florida-teacher-hid-65-people-during-a-massacre

65 people don't have to be in on it. In all that chaos, it'd be very easy to figure he was there whether he was there or not.

It's not a leap of faith at all. The people in that room were all aware that there was a shooter. Hogg said he only became aware when he saw it on TV. I wouldn't even call what you have as faith; I'd call it just a willingness to completely ignore a glaring contradiction. Why? I don't know. It's not like you're stupid.

[spurraider21]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/this-florida-teacher-hid-65-people-during-a-massacre

65 people don't have to be in on it. In all that chaos, it'd be very easy to figure he was there whether he was there or not.

It's not a leap of faith at all. The people in that room were all aware that there was a shooter. Hogg said he only became aware when he saw it on TV. I wouldn't even call what you have as faith; I'd call it just a willingness to completely ignore a glaring contradiction. Why? I don't know. It's not like you're stupid.


No tbh. This is where your story falls apart. He never said that he wasn’t aware of the shooting. When he saw media was there doing interviews he biked back to school.

[ElNono]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/this-florida-teacher-hid-65-people-during-a-massacre

65 people don't have to be in on it. In all that chaos, it'd be very easy to figure he was there whether he was there or not.

It's not a leap of faith at all. The people in that room were all aware that there was a shooter. Hogg said he only became aware when he saw it on TV. I wouldn't even call what you have as faith; I'd call it just a willingness to completely ignore a glaring contradiction. Why? I don't know. It's not like you're stupid.

- Where did Hogg said this?
- The teacher was one of those people in the room, she admitted to grabbing the kid and putting him in a closet.
- Why would she lie?
- Even if there were 65 people and a lot of commotion, they put them inside a closet. There's obviously more than just the teacher that saw him. Yet, nobody else claimed he was not at school.
- What's the glaring contradiction?

[Reck]

Someone call 911. We just witnessed a murder. :lmao

Derp thought taking on El was a good idea.

They dont call him derp for nothing. :lol

[ElNono]

Let me source the retraction, BTW

https://www.redstate.com/sarah-rumpf/2018/03/28/mistake.-wrong.-im-sorry./

[ElNono]

Derp thought taking on El was a good idea.

They dont call him derp for nothing. :lol

ugh, there's no such thing.

Spurtacular is free to have his opinion, tbh... as wrong as I might think it is.

Like I told him, I find concerning there appears to be a personal beef with this individual, for whatever reason. He could be a hack, for all I know, but there's no doubt he was at school that day.

[Reck]

ugh, there's no such thing.

Spurtacular is free to have his opinion, tbh... as wrong as I might think it is.

Like I told him, I find concerning there appears to be a personal beef with this individual, for whatever reason. He could be a hack, for all I know, but there's no doubt he was at school that day.

Derp is simply taking his marching orders from the breitbart and Alex Jone's crowd. They started the beef with the high school kid.

Then they couldn't stand Hogg actually stood up and wiped the floor with them.

[ElNono]

Derp is simply taking his marching orders from the breitbart and Alex Jone's crowd. They started the beef with the high school kid.

Then they couldn't stand Hogg actually stood up and wiped the floor with them.

I would think that of Chris, but not Spurtacular.

I might not agree with a lot of his takes, but he's not above having a good discussion. That said, he fell for basically a photoshop of real news. It happens to a lot of people these days.

What we can do is respectfully disagree and make them aware, then it's up to them.

[dabom]

Derp is simply taking his marching orders from the breitbart and Alex Jone's crowd. They started the beef with the high school kid.

Then they couldn't stand Hogg actually stood up and wiped the floor with them.

This is what happens they get their "facts" from repug slime. :lol

Then he doesn't wanna look stupid and in doing so, looks like a fucking dumb fuck. :lol

[spurraider21]

I would think that of Chris, but not Spurtacular.

I might not agree with a lot of his takes, but he's not above having a good discussion. That said, he fell for basically a photoshop of real news. It happens to a lot of people these days.

What we can do is respectfully disagree and make them aware, then it's up to them.only other time I’ve seen you have a discussion with him in the political forum was the snopes=cia thread which was an equally trivial “discussion “. I could be missing some other exchanges you two have had

[spurraider21]

ugh, there's no such thing.

Spurtacular is free to have his opinion, tbh... as wrong as I might think it is.

Like I told him, I find concerning there appears to be a personal beef with this individual, for whatever reason. He could be a hack, for all I know, but there's no doubt he was at school that day.Reconcile

[ElNono]

Reconcile

He's free to think water isn't wet, regardless of the mental gymnastics he needs to go through to believe that.

I'll point out those gymnastics, and state that, until further notice, water is wet. But I can't force him to think anything, nor I pretend to.

[spurraider21]

He's free to think water isn't wet, regardless of the mental gymnastics he needs to go through to believe that.

I'll point out those gymnastics, and state that, until further notice, water is wet. But I can't force him to think anything, nor I pretend to.
Oh you meant that literally. Gotcha

[ElNono]

only other time I’ve seen you have a discussion with him in the political forum was the snopes=cia thread which was an equally trivial “discussion “. I could be missing some other exchanges you two have had

We've discussed other political topics that don't involve conspiracies, and while we don't always agree, it didn't strike me as Chris/boutons level of empty skull, tbh, IMO.

I would have to look back for examples, but I don't feel like it.

[spurraider21]

I think you’re just trying to throw him a bone tbh

[Reck]

I think you’re just trying to throw him a bone tbh

This, tbh.

its not like even his club takes are substantial either. He always finds a way to rope in a right vs left argument with a heap of dumbass conspiracies.

[ElNono]

rarely read the Club, tbh...

[Spurtacular]

Wrong link?

But I don't even need it. Let's put together all your claims (without a shred of evidence) so far:
1) Kid wasn't at school during shooting
2) Teacher lies for kid
3) Kid said he was not aware of shooting
4) None of the other 65 people in the room came out and corroborated that kid wasn't at school for shooting and that the teacher was lying

We know 1) is false, because the creator of said fake news, already admitted it took a quote out of context, and retracted the claim.

2, 3, 4? All your claims. Since you did your 'simple detective' work, lets see it.

1. Hogg' claims that he found out about the confirmed shooting from the news.
2. Teacher who claimed the kids (which would include Hogg) in her classroom were all well aware of the shooting.

It's either or, dude. It's not both.



- What's the glaring contradiction?

[Spurtacular]

Also, would be good to know how AP fabricates stories too, tbh... as far as I know, anything that's not opinion is reputable.

We see case after case in which events or statements go unchallenged if it fits their collective bias. This is pretty much the rule, not the exception. Media is far from objective whether you want to call it non-opinion or not.

[Spurtacular]

- Where did Hogg said this?


OP, bro. 4:25 on the video. You didn't even watch it, but you're posting links about how it's supposedly been disproved.

[ElNono]

1. Hogg' claims that he found out about the confirmed shooting from the news.
2. Teacher who claimed the kids (which would include Hogg) in her classroom were all well aware of the shooting.

It's either or, dude. It's not both.


OP, bro. 4:25 on the video. You didn't even watch it, but you're posting links about how it's supposedly been disproved.

We're going in circles. You put the quote in the OP. That's not what it says. Video already known to contain quotes taken out of context, but you insist. You put the link, that apparently didn't read, that already disproved that video and what it claims. Would be good if you read it, as it's the source of your conspiracy. You're getting sourced facts, not baloney.

Fact is, there was at least one, likely multiple first hand witnesses that can corroborate the sequence of events and that the kid was at school. The rest is 'connect the dots' kookoo leaps of faith.



We see case after case in which events or statements go unchallenged if it fits their collective bias. This is pretty much the rule, not the exception. Media is far from objective whether you want to call it non-opinion or not.

The world is not out to get you, despite what you might think, tbh. Distrusting everything for the fuck of it is not rational, is paranoia. Life is generally a lot simpler than that.

Lemme know when you find one of those 65 people stating the kid is lying, the teacher is lying and the kid wasn't at school, tbh...

[ElNono]

I tried to be rational in this convo, tbh, but hey, you wanna live looking over your shoulder, that's your choice.

Honestly, I've read about paranoid people, but I can't fathom going through life like that, tbh, I can't even empathize.

[spurraider21]

1. Hogg' claims that he found out about the confirmed shooting from the news.
2. Teacher who claimed the kids (which would include Hogg) in her classroom were all well aware of the shooting.

It's either or, dude. It's not both.


No tbh. This is where your story falls apart. He never said that he wasn’t aware of the shooting. When he saw media was there doing interviews he biked back to school.

[Splits]

Holy shit. Sticky this abomination of a thread. Derp derping at his best. What a fucking idiot.

[Mikeanaro]

So he needed the tv to grab the camera and go there?
He wasnt there, liberal liars.

Rode fast that shit, sure.

[Pavlov]

So he needed the tv to grab the camera and go there?
He wasnt there, liberal liars.

Rode fast that shit, sure.You get a pass because you can't read the language.

[Mikeanaro]

You get a pass because you can't read the language.
Nope, if he was really there like he claimed there would be no need of hearing about the shooting in the news.

[Pavlov]

Nope, if he was really there like he claimed there would be no need of hearing about the shooting in the news.Except he never said that.

Why do you lie?

[Mikeanaro]

Except he never said that.

Why do you lie?
Thats how it happened, why your boys lie about the CULOXION?

[spurraider21]

Nope, if he was really there like he claimed there would be no need of hearing about the shooting in the news.


No tbh. This is where your story falls apart. He never said that he wasn’t aware of the shooting. When he saw media was there doing interviews he biked back to school.

[Pavlov]

Thats how it happenedNope, none of you has produced a quote of his saying that.

Feel free to try.

lol

[Mikeanaro]

Nope, none of you has produced a quote of his saying that.

Feel free to try.

lolOn the day of the shooting, I got my camera and got on my bike and rode as fast as I could three miles from my house to the school to get as much video and to get as many interviews as I could because I knew that this could not be another mass shooting - David Hogg

It should be AFTER THE SHOOTING I WENT HOME, lol crisis actor.

[Mikeanaro]

Also If he had a cell phone why the fucking need to go home, he had a camera (probably full of gay porn) and also could borrow a camera from his millennial freak friends to interview.
Liberal tales like landing under sniping fire, tbh.

[Pavlov]

On the day of the shooting, I got my camera and got on my bike and rode as fast as I could three miles from my house to the school to get as much video and to get as many interviews as I could because I knew that this could not be another mass shooting - David Hogg

It should be AFTER THE SHOOTING I WENT HOME, lol crisis actor.But it's not.

Because he was talking about going back to the school at 6.


Also If he had a cell phone why the fucking need to go home, he had a camera (probably full of gay porn) and also could borrow a camera from his millennial freak friends to interview.
Liberal tales like landing under sniping fire, tbh.He went home because there was a shooting at the school and he had to evacuate like everyone else.

He went back at 6.

Just like he said.

[Mikeanaro]

But it's not.

Because he was talking about going back to the school at 6.

He went home because there was a shooting at the school and he had to evacuate like everyone else.

He went back at 6.

Just like he said.

Took 2 takes with two different cameras, was he doing a test screen for Warner Brothers????


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIAYwQocF20

Also an 18 year old riding a bike, coming from a wealthy family? Lol

[Pavlov]

Took 2 takes with two different cameras, was he doing a test screen for Warner Brothers????


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIAYwQocF20

Also an 18 year old riding a bike, coming from a wealthy family? LolHe went back to the school at 6.

What part of that do you not understand?

[ElNono]

:lol Mike, I know you like trolling with Chump, but this has been buried a long time ago, the minute the teacher said he was at school...

Now, carry on.

[Mikeanaro]

He went back to the school at 6.

What part of that do you not understand?
What part of shooting 2 takes of the same on 2 different cameras you dont understand? During a ¨shooting¨.
IS NOT A DRILL IS NOT A DRILL!!! ITS JUST MY AGENDA!!!!

Lol crisis actor selling rotten fish.

[Mikeanaro]

:lol Mike, I know you like trolling with Chump, but this has been buried a long time ago, the minute the teacher said he was at school...

Now, carry on.
Nono stop the crap, you were born in the most corrupt country ever and now you live on the states and you lost touch with corruption, do you know anything about Kirchnerist teachers and Santiago Maldonado?

[Pavlov]

What part of shooting 2 takes of the same on 2 different cameras you dont understand? During a ¨shooting¨.
IS NOT A DRILL IS NOT A DRILL!!! ITS JUST MY AGENDA!!!!

Lol crisis actor selling rotten fish.Sorry. He was in school during the shooting. It's on the record.

Multiple records.

You can't do a thing about it.

[Mikeanaro]

Sorry. He was in school during the shooting. It's on the record.

Multiple records.

You can't do a thing about it.
Multiple records that your corrupt hacks made up.
Then inventing a CULOXION.
Then landing under sniping fire.
Then Comey.
Then wiretapping Trump.
Then picking crisis actors
Then Stormy

http://i63.tinypic.com/n55toy.png

[Spurtacular]

Took 2 takes with two different cameras, was he doing a test screen for Warner Brothers????


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIAYwQocF20

Also an 18 year old riding a bike, coming from a wealthy family? Lol

"The first thing I heard was one single gun shot. We initially thought this was a drill...."

:lol This is is an utter contradiction.

[Spurtacular]

We're going in circles. You put the quote in the OP. That's not what it says. Video already known to contain quotes taken out of context, but you insist. You put the link, that apparently didn't read, that already disproved that video and what it claims. Would be good if you read it, as it's the source of your conspiracy. You're getting sourced facts, not baloney.

Fact is, there was at least one, likely multiple first hand witnesses that can corroborate the sequence of events and that the kid was at school. The rest is 'connect the dots' kookoo leaps of faith.




The world is not out to get you, despite what you might think, tbh. Distrusting everything for the fuck of it is not rational, is paranoia. Life is generally a lot simpler than that.

Lemme know when you find one of those 65 people stating the kid is lying, the teacher is lying and the kid wasn't at school, tbh...

No circles. You're just obstinate (even though you like to see yourself as the voice of reason). Hogg gives one story of being well aware of a mass shooter and another account of finding out about it at home. That's just the simple fact of the matter that you have no explanation for, so you're doing slings and arrows on me, bro.

[Chris]

Took 2 takes with two different cameras, was he doing a test screen for Warner Brothers????


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIAYwQocF20

Also an 18 year old riding a bike, coming from a wealthy family? Lol

:tu

[Spurtacular]

But it's not.

Because he was talking about going back to the school at 6.



Too bad for you he's giving an account about finding out about the shooting that way (even though he also claimed to be at the shooting).

[Spurtacular]

:lol Mike, I know you like trolling with Chump, but this has been buried a long time ago, the minute the teacher said he was at school...

Now, carry on.

Cos people don't "lie" / "vouch" for people in the real world. After all, we live in the holy of holies in ElNonoland where people are above that. :lmao

[Pavlov]

Too bad for you he's giving an account about finding out about the shooting that way (even though he also claimed to be at the shooting).

Nope. You still haven't produced a quote of Hogg's saying he wasn't at school during the shooting.

Still waiting....

[Spurtacular]

Nono stop the crap, you were born in the most corrupt country ever and now you live on the states and you lost touch with corruption...


What part of shooting 2 takes of the same on 2 different cameras you dont understand? During a ¨shooting¨.
IS NOT A DRILL IS NOT A DRILL!!! ITS JUST MY AGENDA!!!!

Lol crisis actor selling rotten fish.


Multiple records that your corrupt hacks made up.
Then inventing a CULOXION.
Then landing under sniping fire.
Then Comey.
Then wiretapping Trump.
Then picking crisis actors
Then Stormy

http://i63.tinypic.com/n55toy.png

All-star poster posting all-star posts, tbh.

[Spurtacular]

No tbh. This is where your story falls apart. He never said that he wasn’t aware of the shooting. When he saw media was there doing interviews he biked back to school.

:lmao Your contention is that a student journalist didn't know there'd be media at a mass school shooting.
:lmao "where your story falls apart"
:lmao Blake "nother level" posting

[spurraider21]

:lmao Your contention is that a student journalist didn't know there'd be media at a mass school shooting.
:lmao "where your story falls apart"
:lmao Blake (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=3460) "nother level" posting
he was evacuated from school after a shooting and went home.

turned on the tv, saw news coverage, went back to school for interviews.

MAJOR CONSPIRACY

[AaronY]

Derptacular Derptaculating per/par

[Spurtacular]

he was evacuated from school after a shooting and went home.

turned on the tv, saw news coverage, went back to school for interviews.

MAJOR CONSPIRACY

So he acts in disbelief about a shooting he was at? He goes home three miles and rides as fast as he can three miles back? Why would he even leave if he wanted to be Mr. Awesome journalist?

[Pavlov]

So he acts in disbelief about a shooting he was at? He goes home three miles and rides as fast as he can three miles back? Why would he even leave if he wanted to be Mr. Awesome journalist?It was three hours after the shooting.

Just like he said.

What part of this are you not understanding?

[Spurtacular]

It was three hours after the shooting.

Just like he said.

What part of this are you not understanding?

Why was he acting like he was in disbelief about it being another school shooting if he had supposedly been there for it. Mikeanaro is right. He's a crisis actor.

[Reck]

This is one of those threads derp will be bumping for several weeks, maybe years down the line because he thinks he's onto something extraordinaire. :lol Stupid fuck.

[Pavlov]

Why was he acting like he was in disbelief about it being another school shooting if he had supposedly been there for it.You aren't producing any primary source quotes, derp.

Let's see them.

[ElNono]

No circles. You're just obstinate (even though you like to see yourself as the voice of reason). Hogg gives one story of being well aware of a mass shooter and another account of finding out about it at home. That's just the simple fact of the matter that you have no explanation for, so you're doing slings and arrows on me, bro.

:lol yeah, I'm the obstinate one.

Still waiting for the evidence the teacher and other students lied, your claim, your burden of proof.

[Mikeanaro]

"The first thing I heard was one single gun shot. We initially thought this was a drill...."

:lol This is is an utter contradiction.
When I hear shots I think about guns, not drills
https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/c5c2fc82-cce6-4d1e-b8b9-61067a6e12f3_1.5dedd2766e5c94b00e525f565081acb4.jp eg?odnHeight=450&odnWidth=450&odnBg=FFFFFF

Now seriously, he should make a 7 minute calves video showing us how to be in shape riding that shit.

[Spurtacular]

:lol yeah, I'm the obstinate one.

Still waiting for the evidence the teacher and other students lied, your claim, your burden of proof.

65 students in a tight space. Hogg has plausible deniability against any student who would claim he wasn't there. This is a non-starter. It's he said / she said stuff.

[ElNono]

Nono stop the crap, you were born in the most corrupt country ever and now you live on the states and you lost touch with corruption, do you know anything about Kirchnerist teachers and Santiago Maldonado?

The funny thing is once you live here for a while, you realize that Macri would be ideologically basically a pragmatic Obama, whereas Trump, the populist pandering to the low-education voters would be Cristina...

Congress is different though.

[ElNono]

65 students in a tight space. Hogg has plausible deniability against any student who would claim he wasn't seen. This is a non-starter. It's he said / she said stuff.

I don't do narratives, 'connect the dots'. It's your claim, let's see the sourced evidence you're basing that on.

[Spurtacular]

65 students in a tight space. Hogg has plausible deniability against any student who would claim he wasn't there. This is a non-starter. It's he said / she said stuff.
ElNono Although the (fake-after) video I saw showed a ton of space in the background. Just another lie exposed it would seem. :lol

[Reck]

When I hear shots I think about guns, not drills
https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/c5c2fc82-cce6-4d1e-b8b9-61067a6e12f3_1.5dedd2766e5c94b00e525f565081acb4.jp eg?odnHeight=450&odnWidth=450&odnBg=FFFFFF

Now seriously, he should make a 7 minute calves video showing us how to be in shape riding that shit.

Nigga thinks he meant drill as an the tool. :lmao

[ElNono]

Cos people don't "lie" / "vouch" for people in the real world. After all, we live in the holy of holies in ElNonoland where people are above that. :lmao

More 'connect the dots'. And I'm obstinate. :lol

Still waiting to see your 'detective work', and proof AP fabricates stories.

You got it all sorted out, show it to the world.

[Spurtacular]

I don't do narratives, 'connect the dots'. It's your claim, let's see the sourced evidence you're basing that on.

"The claim" is that he was there for the shooting. It seems to make you mad that "the claim" seems to be spurious.

[ElNono]

ElNono Although the (fake-after) video I saw showed a ton of space in the background. Just another lie exposed it would seem. :lol

You can cling to any videos, but so far, as far as sourcing facts, the scoreboard is:

Snopes: 1
Spurtacular: 0

[ElNono]

"The claim" is that he was there for the shooting. It seems to make you mad that "the claim" seems to be spurious.

We have first hand evidence a witness stated he was there during the shooting. Your claim is that the witness lied. Let's see the evidence.

[Spurtacular]

Nigga thinks he meant drill as an the tool. :lmao

:lol Unpassable tranny saying "nigga"

[Pavlov]

65 students in a tight space. Hogg has plausible deniability against any student who would claim he wasn't there. This is a non-starter. It's he said / she said stuff.It's he was actually there so no one else who was there would say he wasn't there.

I agree it's a non-starter because you haven't even started to give your primary source evidence that he was at home during the shooting.

Still waiting....

[Spurtacular]

You can cling to any videos, but so far, as far as sourcing facts, the scoreboard is:

Snopes: 1
Spurtacular: 0

Why would I overly rely on the system to give the truth about a phony system? That makes no sense. That's the umbrella argument, anyways. I'm talking about looking at the holes and contradictions in Hogg's own story. That's what you seem to want to get away from.

[Pavlov]

"The claim" is that he was there for the shooting. It seems to make you mad that "the claim" seems to be spurious.That claim is supported by the primary source you demanded and another you didn't even know existed.

You claim is he was at home during the shooting. Where is your primary source evidence supporting this?

Still waiting....

[Pavlov]

Why would I overly rely on the system to give the truth about a phony system? That makes no sense. That's the umbrella argument, anyways. I'm talking about looking at the holes and contradictions in Hogg's own story. That's what you seem to want to get away from.There is no hole or contradiction in his story.

[ElNono]

People ask for common sense, and once you have a first hand account that the kid was there, nobody that was there contradicting that account, we suddenly have to think "something's fishy", "connect the dots"... :lol

Because of some video that's been admitted to be taken out of context...

I'm done here. Until further news, kid was at school during the shootout. I'll review once I get evidence to the contrary.

[Spurtacular]

We have first hand evidence a witness stated he was there during the shooting. Your claim is that the witness lied. Let's see the evidence.

Seriously, bro? This is what you want to hinge your argument on? Are you unfamiliar with the phenomenon of witness claiming stuff that never happened? Are you unfamiliar with how common this is? I don't know what the name is for it, but here's the first few google links that pop up.

http://nobaproject.com/modules/eyewitness-testimony-and-memory-biases
http://science.time.com/2013/11/19/remember-that-no-you-dont-study-shows-false-memories-afflict-us-all/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4337233/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4183265/
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/228678944_False_memories_Phenomena_theories_and_im plications

[Pavlov]

Seriously, bro? This is what you want to hinge your argument on? Are you unfamiliar with the phenomenon of witness claiming stuff that never happened? Are you unfamiliar with how common this is? I don't know what the name is for it, but here's the first few google links that pop up.

http://nobaproject.com/modules/eyewitness-testimony-and-memory-biases
http://science.time.com/2013/11/19/remember-that-no-you-dont-study-shows-false-memories-afflict-us-all/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4337233/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4183265/
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/228678944_False_memories_Phenomena_theories_and_im plicationsSeriously, bro? This is what you want to hinge your argument on?

Where is your primary source evidence proving he was at home during the shooting?

[ElNono]

Why would I overly rely on the system to give the truth about a phony system? That makes no sense. That's the umbrella argument, anyways. I'm talking about looking at the holes and contradictions in Hogg's own story. That's what you seem to want to get away from.

Why would I even have to care what you think was fishy if you were not there when the events unfolded? To make me care, you have to prove there's a concerted conspiracy involving otherwise reputable media, a teacher, multiple kids.

The burden of proof is on you. So, show your cards. You said you did your detective work, let's see it.

[Spurtacular]

People ask for common sense, and once you have a first hand account that the kid was there, nobody that was there contradicting that account, we suddenly have to think "something's fishy", "connect the dots"... :lol

Because of some video that's been admitted to be taken out of context...

I'm done here. Until further news, kid was at school during the shootout. I'll review once I get evidence to the contrary.

Holes in the story.

1. I heard shots / I thought it was a drill. (contradiction)
2. Packed into a tight classroom (video shows plenty of room / people talking casually in the background)

[ElNono]

Seriously, bro? This is what you want to hinge your argument on? Are you unfamiliar with the phenomenon of witness claiming stuff that never happened? Are you unfamiliar with how common this is? I don't know what the name is for it, but here's the first few google links that pop up.

http://nobaproject.com/modules/eyewitness-testimony-and-memory-biases
http://science.time.com/2013/11/19/remember-that-no-you-dont-study-shows-false-memories-afflict-us-all/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4337233/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4183265/
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/228678944_False_memories_Phenomena_theories_and_im plications

Prove the teacher had false memories, the kids had false memories. It's your claim.

[Spurtacular]

Why would I even have to care what you think was fishy if you were not there when the events unfolded? To make me care, you have to prove there's a concerted conspiracy involving otherwise reputable media, a teacher, multiple kids.

The burden of proof is on you. So, show your cards. You said you did your detective work, let's see it.

There you go again. You want the larger conspiracy so that you can poke holes while ignoring the basic flaws in this Hogg kid's story. You certainly don't want to take on that "burden."

[Spurtacular]

Prove the teacher had false memories, the kids had false memories. It's your claim.

Let's not pretend that this is an issue that has been thoroughly explored. You're relying on one teacher's word.

[ElNono]

Let's not pretend that this is an issue that has been thoroughly explored. You're relying on one teacher's word.

And at least half a dozen kids that didn't deny it either.

[Pavlov]

There you go again. You want the larger conspiracy so that you can poke holes while ignoring the basic flaws in this Hogg kid's story. You certainly don't want to take on that "burden."There are no basic flaws in his story.

You have showed no primary source evidence proving he was at home during the shooting.

Still waiting....

[ElNono]

There you go again. You want the larger conspiracy so that you can poke holes while ignoring the basic flaws in this Hogg kid's story. You certainly don't want to take on that "burden."

I don't have to. I have sourced facts that the events unfolded as described. There's no holes and conspiracy as far as I'm concerned.

Convince me with your sources and detective work that the AP lied, the teacher lied, the kids lied. It's your claim.

[Spurminator]

Derp's act is tired. It's not even good trolling, it's just quantity over quality.

Time to move on.

[ElNono]

I'll even take FoxNews, RedState...*



*not Cosmoron though

[Spurtacular]

And at least half a dozen kids that didn't deny it either.

:lol Solid stuff there.

[Spurtacular]

I don't have to. I have sourced facts that the events unfolded as described. There's no holes and conspiracy as far as I'm concerned.

Convince me with your sources and detective work that the AP lied, the teacher lied, the kids lied. It's your claim.

If you watch interviews with Hogg he contradicts himself multiple times. He says he heard the gunshots and then also tells a story about how he thought it was a drill even by the time he got home. He's a crisis actor who has a hard time telling a coherent story. And :lol that he even said his sister called him at 5 in the morning to find he was out doing interviews when he should be at school. They didn't even hire a very smart crisis actor. Nepotism I guess.

[ElNono]

:lol Solid stuff there.

Way, way better than "I think something is fishy". The kids were there, you were not. :lol

[Spurtacular]

If you watch interviews with Hogg he contradicts himself multiple times. He says he heard the gunshots and then also tells a story about how he thought it was a drill even by the time he got home. He's a crisis actor who has a hard time telling a coherent story. And :lol that he even said his sister called him at 5 in the morning to find he was out doing interviews when he should be at school. They didn't even hire a very smart crisis actor. Nepotism I guess.
ElNono (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8054)

Not to mention that article talks about the teacher/students listening to the police activity on the radio / David Hogg saying he was very worried about his sister. And then he goes home and figures it was all a drill? Bro, this story is so full of giant holes that Arnold can drive his Hummer through it. :lol at you trying to use redstate dot com as crutch to hide like a child from glaring contradictions.

[Spurtacular]

Way, way better than "I think something is fishy". The kids were there, you were not. :lol

You are apparently unfamiliar with American high schools, so let me clue you in. They can be very tribal; and a lot of them don't want to be "snitches." But you keep thinking you got something. :lol

[Mikeanaro]

The funny thing is once you live here for a while, you realize that Macri would be ideologically basically a pragmatic Obama, whereas Trump, the populist pandering to the low-education voters would be Cristina...

Congress is different though.
They are not so similar, Obama/Hillary is more a Cristina, allowing illegals to enter the country to give him votes just like Cristina did with Paraguayans and Bolivians, Cristina/Nestor gave same marriage sex and lots of LGTB crap, who was against that and then she was the queen? *ding*

We had here fake news long long before the States, in 99 after Menem left (but tried to get elected in 2003) he bought Canal 9 rename it Azul and started the fake news spreading baddies all day, introducing RIESGO PAIS, and people like LAJE, HADAD, NEGRO GONZALEZ ORO, BABY ECHECOPAR were the players.

Cristina had C5N, CN23, CANAL 9, AMERICA A24, Telefe, ATC/Television publica and everything was just perfect (except the opposition that was a minority) and they were mocking people with different thoughts, just like liberal people in the states, but here Cristina would send you AFIP (IRS) to inspire fear.

In the states was and is the same story, CNN ABC NBC and all fake news media were mocking The Don, now that he is in charge is all about how bad he is (funny because they dont have much to say about economy).

And one important Cristina/O/Hillary parallel ¨the makes me feel gud¨ factor, Cristina here was the queen of ¨human rights¨ what the fuck is that? people having no pipes to take a shit, no food equals to human rights, right? but since she had her paid leftist idiots she was the best thing alive, because she was giving us ¨human rights¨.

And O/Hilla gave you the ¨he/she makes me feel good¨ which was taking national debt from 8 to 20, women still underpaid, mass shootings all time highs, blacks still shit so Big O did nothing for them, but its all ¨great¨for leftist idiots.
Both have ¨actors¨applauding them, scrubs here ¨Hollyweirdos¨there.

That takes me to the point, liberalism is a disease, have you seen whats happening in Barcelona? they all do the same, scream like bitches full of intolerance, you are with them or you are the enemy.
Liberals from all over the world deserve everything because they are a gift from god.
Most of these idiots are like that because their parents were too busy doing other things and they never got a hug, pathetic.

MMLPQTP (Mau Macri la puta que te pario) equals to ¨NOT MY PRESIDENT¨.
Macri gato equals to ¨IMPEACH TRUMP¨

And Cristina/Obbo had nothing against them, perfect people?

[ElNono]

If you watch interviews with Hogg he contradicts himself multiple times. He says he heard the gunshots and then also tells a story about how he thought it was a drill even by the time he got home. He's a crisis actor who has a hard time telling a coherent story. And :lol that he even said his sister called him at 5 in the morning to find he was out doing interviews when he should be at school. They didn't even hire a very smart crisis actor. Nepotism I guess.

So you admit not having evidence that he wasn't at school that day, and no evidence that AP lied, the teacher lied and a number of kids lied? It's your claim, your burden of proof.

I'm not going to vouch for the kid, I don't know him. I can certainly admit that nobody else on this story had any reason to lie and it would be a pretty monumental accomplishment to pull it off. It would also require the original claim not have been retracted.

[Spurtacular]

So you admit not having evidence

I admit that his story is completely flawed.

1. He was at school panicking about the shooter / listening to the police activity on the radio that a teacher had.
2. He thought it was merely just a drill and rushed to the school to be on the scene when he found out it was a shooting.

Which of the two is it? Pick one. Either way, Hogg's caught in a lie and you're trying to prop him up. :lmao

I wouldn't "vouch" for that sh** either!

[Mikeanaro]

Nigga thinks he meant drill as an the tool. :lmao
Yeah, specially that part where it says ¨Now seriously¨...

[Pavlov]

I admit that his story is completely flawed.

1. He was at school panicking about the shooter / listening to the police activity on the radio that a teacher had.
2. He thought it was merely just a drill and rushed to the school to be on the scene when he found out it was a shooting.

Which of the two is it? Pick one. Either way, Hogg's caught in a lie and you're trying to prop him up. :lmao

I wouldn't "vouch" for that sh** either!You have no primary source evidence Hogg was at home during the shooting.

Still waiting....

[ElNono]

They are not so similar, Obama/Hillary is more a Cristina, allowing illegals to enter the country to give him votes just like Cristina did with Paraguayans and Bolivians, Cristina/Nestor gave same marriage sex and lots of LGTB crap, who was against that and then she was the queen? *ding*

We had here fake news long long before the States, in 99 after Menem left (but tried to get elected in 2003) he bought Canal 9 rename it Azul and started the fake news spreading baddies all day, introducing RIESGO PAIS, and people like LAJE, HADAD, NEGRO GONZALEZ ORO, BABY ECHECOPAR were the players.

Cristina had C5N, CN23, CANAL 9, AMERICA A24, Telefe, ATC/Television publica and everything was just perfect (except the opposition that was a minority) and they were mocking people with different thoughts, just like liberal people in the states, but here Cristina would send you AFIP (IRS) to inspire fear.

In the states was and is the same story, CNN ABC NBC and all fake news media were mocking The Don, now that he is in charge is all about how bad he is (funny because they dont have much to say about economy).

And one important Cristina/O/Hillary parallel ¨the makes me feel gud¨ factor, Cristina here was the queen of ¨human rights¨ what the fuck is that? people having no pipes to take a shit, no food equals to human rights, right? but since she had her paid leftist idiots she was the best thing alive, because she was giving us ¨human rights¨.

And O/Hilla gave you the ¨he/she makes me feel good¨ which was taking national debt from 8 to 20, women still underpaid, mass shootings all time highs, blacks still shit so Big O did nothing for them, but its all ¨great¨for leftist idiots.
Both have ¨actors¨applauding them, scrubs here ¨Hollyweirdos¨there.

That takes me to the point, liberalism is a disease, have you seen whats happening in Barcelona? they all do the same, scream like bitches full of intolerance, you are with them or you are the enemy.
Liberals from all over the world deserve everything because they are a gift from god.
Most of these idiots are like that because their parents were too busy doing other things and they never got a hug, pathetic.

MMLPQTP (Mau Macri la puta que te pario equals to ¨NOT MY PRESIDENT¨.
Macri gato equals to ¨IMPEACH TRUMP¨

And Cristina/Obbo had nothing against them, perfect people?

Honestly, Mike, I would think you're relatively young (I don't mean this in a bad way), because I remember all the illegals forever, even when Alfonsin was president, or even Mendez who was more right wing than Macri.

Don basically ran a Cristina/Mendez campaign: revolucion productiva, we're going to get jobs back here (Cristina's populism was all about industrialization, planes trabajar). She pandered to the low education voters, and tried to keep them there (which mimics the anti-science GOP playbook).

Macri ran the Obama playbook: Hope & Change (globitos amarillos, le't s be happy, a better argentina).

There's no doubt they're all crooked over there, peronachos y radichetas. They both steal, both keep the money offshore, even when they're government.

But there's a lot of the same here. The real power lies in Congress, and nobody likes them. Liberals or conservatives.

The main difference is that there's a relatively quick justice system here, and that's very important to keeping checks and balances.

That's why I can't agree that 'liberalism is a disease'. Politics du jour are a disease, because they've been compromised a long time ago.

Then, the 90% of non-rich people look at who throws them a crumble. It's a sad state of affairs.

[ElNono]

I admit that his story is completely flawed.

But you have no evidence that it is. I mean, it's cool, it's your prerogative. Like I said, I can't force you to anything.

[ElNono]

Based on facts and witnesses accounts:

- He was at the school during the shooting, and evacuated.
- Went home, checked the news
- At 6PM he went back to school to do interviews, being he was a journo student.

Waiting for evidence to the contrary.

[ElNono]

Even if I were to think Hogg is a hack and a liar, facts are not based on Hoggs statements, but third party accounts with no reason whatsoever to lie.

[Mikeanaro]

Honestly, Mike, I would think you're relatively young (I don't mean this in a bad way), because I remember all the illegals forever, even when Alfonsin was president, or even Mendez who was more right wing than Macri.

Don basically ran a Cristina/Mendez campaign: revolucion productiva, we're going to get jobs back here (Cristina's populism was all about industrialization, planes trabajar). She pandered to the low education voters, and tried to keep them there (which mimics the anti-science GOP playbook).

Macri ran the Obama playbook: Hope & Change (globitos amarillos, le't s be happy, a better argentina).

There's no doubt they're all crooked over there, peronachos y radichetas. They both steal, both keep the money offshore, even when they're government.

But there's a lot of the same here. The real power lies in Congress, and nobody likes them. Liberals or conservatives.

The main difference is that there's a relatively quick justice system here, and that's very important to keeping checks and balances.

That's why I can't agree that 'liberalism is a disease'. Politics du jour are a disease, because they've been compromised a long time ago.

Then, the 90% of non-rich people look at who throws them a crumble. It's a sad state of affairs.
The campaign scheme was the same, Duran Barba took it from there, but as an administration are very different.

But neither Cristina or Tigre Riojano :lol made a campaign like The Don talking about illegals and the Wall (the most divisive thing ever), anything else you could say it on any campaign the whole WE NEED JOBS HOSPITALS EDUCATION crapola.

But yeah, Donnie campaign played like Cristina, and Macri took the motif from Omono, Change/CAMBIEMOS.

Now as long as administrations my last post showed the differences.

I say liberalism is a disease because people vote those clowns, and they are the ones making these idiots more and more intolerant, there are no conservatives here or anywhere taking schools, burning down the streets & tires, covering their faces always against the ¨enemy¨ Chavez/Maduro have an enemy, Cristina has, Macri/Trump are not hunting opposition.

They have their Media creating division and exaggerating things, feeding weak minds with hate.
They have teachers changing the past, brainwashing kids.

Im not saying conservatives are the ultimate solution to all problems, but these clowns went to far, fucking extremists.

So I respectfully stand for my beliefs.

[ElNono]

The campaign scheme was the same, Duran Barba took it from there, but as an administration are very different.

But neither Cristina or Tigre Riojano :lol made a campaign like The Don talking about illegals and the Wall (the most divisive thing ever), anything else you could say it on any campaign the whole WE NEED JOBS HOSPITALS EDUCATION crapola.

But yeah, Donnie campaign played like Cristina, and Macri took the motif from Omono, Change/CAMBIEMOS.

Now as long as administrations my last post showed the differences.

I say liberalism is a disease because people vote those clowns, and they are the ones making these idiots more and more intolerant, there are no conservatives here or anywhere taking schools, burning down the streets & tires, covering their faces always against the ¨enemy¨ Chavez/Maduro have an enemy, Cristina has, Macri/Trump are not hunting opposition.

They have their Media creating division and exaggerating things, feeding weak minds with hate.
They have teachers changing the past, brainwashing kids.

Im not saying conservatives are the ultimate solution to all problems, but these clowns went to far, fucking extremists.

So I respectfully stand for my beliefs.

It's cool. It's actually pretty amazing, tbh... Macri here would be between Obama and Clinton... you don't really know truly backwards conservatism until you're here. It's like el bolita de la villa, but conservative. :lol

It's not just Argentina either, I've lived in Brazil, Europe, Canada... it's really an American phenomenon...

[Isitjustme?]

They are not so similar, Obama/Hillary is more a Cristina, allowing illegals to enter the country to give him votes just like Cristina did with Paraguayans and Bolivians, Cristina/Nestor gave same marriage sex and lots of LGTB crap, who was against that and then she was the queen? *ding*

We had here fake news long long before the States, in 99 after Menem left (but tried to get elected in 2003) he bought Canal 9 rename it Azul and started the fake news spreading baddies all day, introducing RIESGO PAIS, and people like LAJE, HADAD, NEGRO GONZALEZ ORO, BABY ECHECOPAR were the players.

Cristina had C5N, CN23, CANAL 9, AMERICA A24, Telefe, ATC/Television publica and everything was just perfect (except the opposition that was a minority) and they were mocking people with different thoughts, just like liberal people in the states, but here Cristina would send you AFIP (IRS) to inspire fear.

In the states was and is the same story, CNN ABC NBC and all fake news media were mocking The Don, now that he is in charge is all about how bad he is (funny because they dont have much to say about economy).

And one important Cristina/O/Hillary parallel ¨the makes me feel gud¨ factor, Cristina here was the queen of ¨human rights¨ what the fuck is that? people having no pipes to take a shit, no food equals to human rights, right? but since she had her paid leftist idiots she was the best thing alive, because she was giving us ¨human rights¨.

And O/Hilla gave you the ¨he/she makes me feel good¨ which was taking national debt from 8 to 20, women still underpaid, mass shootings all time highs, blacks still shit so Big O did nothing for them, but its all ¨great¨for leftist idiots.
Both have ¨actors¨applauding them, scrubs here ¨Hollyweirdos¨there.

That takes me to the point, liberalism is a disease, have you seen whats happening in Barcelona? they all do the same, scream like bitches full of intolerance, you are with them or you are the enemy.
Liberals from all over the world deserve everything because they are a gift from god.
Most of these idiots are like that because their parents were too busy doing other things and they never got a hug, pathetic.

MMLPQTP (Mau Macri la puta que te pario) equals to ¨NOT MY PRESIDENT¨.
Macri gato equals to ¨IMPEACH TRUMP¨

And Cristina/Obbo had nothing against them, perfect people?

Lol wall of text like anyone cares

[Reck]

It's cool. It's actually pretty amazing, tbh... Macri here would be between Obama and Clinton... you don't really know truly backwards conservatism until you're here. It's like el bolita de la villa, but conservative. :lol

It's not just Argentina either, I've lived in Brazil, Europe, Canada... it's really an American phenomenon...

Son, was this your day off? You're sure entertaining yourself with derp and this guy who cant even spell collusion. :lol

[Spurtacular]

But you have no evidence that it is. I mean, it's cool, it's your prerogative. Like I said, I can't force you to anything.

Are you dense AF? It's his own words. He told two completely different stories. I don't know what more you could want to know this kid is a liar.

[spurraider21]

So he acts in disbelief about a shooting he was at? He goes home three miles and rides as fast as he can three miles back? Why would he even leave if he wanted to be Mr. Awesome journalist?
disbelief in the sense that "i cant believe that just happened" vs disbelief in the sense of "oh, there was a shooting today? weird, i dont remember that"

you're trying too hard to see a conspiracy when there isn't one.

[spurraider21]

Are you dense AF? It's his own words. He told two completely different stories. I don't know what more you could want to know this kid is a liar.
never did he say he was not at school during the shooting.

you're taking a quote from him saying that AFTER he was home, AFTER the shooting, he saw the press was doing interviews at school and decided to head back on his bike around 6pm or so. there's no contradiction there.

[ElNono]

Are you dense AF? It's his own words. He told two completely different stories. I don't know what more you could want to know this kid is a liar.

No he did not. You're either dense or purposely obtuse. It's been explained to you numerous times, you continue to pretend nobody told you the sequence of events.

You don't have to believe anything, but stop acting stupid like people didn't tell you what happened.

A "I don't believe those events happened" would suffice, then run away when people ask your for evidence.

[Spurtacular]

No he did not. You're either dense or purposely obtuse. It's been explained to you numerous times, you continue to pretend nobody told you the sequence of events.

You don't have to believe anything, but stop acting stupid like people didn't tell you what happened.

A "I don't believe those events happened" would suffice, then run away when people ask your for evidence.

So, you're saying that Hogg knew a shooting was ongoing and then went home and suddenly thought it was all a drill 'til he saw the news? That's you're level of being "purposely obtuse" right now. This has been explained multiple times to you now.

[Spurtacular]

never did he say he was not at school during the shooting.

you're taking a quote from him saying that AFTER he was home, AFTER the shooting, he saw the press was doing interviews at school and decided to head back on his bike around 6pm or so. there's no contradiction there.

I'll admit that my original OP didn't quite make the case I thought, necessarily. But having studied this further, my intuition that this kid is not telling the truth has been confirmed. It's simple math; two separate stories cannot equal the truth.

[Pavlov]

So, you're saying that Hogg knew a shooting was ongoing and then went home and suddenly thought it was all a drill 'til he saw the news? That's you're level of being "purposely obtuse" right now. This has been explained multiple times to you now.No. He initially thought the shooting was a drill at the school.

When he was at the school.

When the shooting was happening.

High schools don't have drills of any kind at 6PM.

Which is when he returned to the school.

After being home.

Where he went after the shooting.

Just like he said.

[Pavlov]

I'll admit that my original OP didn't quite make the case I thought, necessarily. But having studied this further, my intuition that this kid is not telling the truth has been confirmed. It's simple math; two separate stories cannot equal the truth.There is only one story.

[Spurtacular]

No. He initially thought the shooting was a drill at the school.

When he was at the school.

When the shooting was happening.

High schools don't have drills of any kind at 6PM.

Which is when he returned to the school.

After being home.

Where he went after the shooting.

Just like he said.

You clearly are not up to speed on the information put forth in this thread. Review it and then make an argument that matters.

[Spurtacular]

There is only one story.

Only one true story, yes. Hogg has two stories (at least).

[ElNono]

I'll admit that my original OP didn't quite make the case I thought, necessarily. But having studied this further, my intuition that this kid is not telling the truth has been confirmed. It's simple math; two separate stories cannot equal the truth.

Your intuition is irrelevant to the facts.

[ElNono]

Did you post this thread to validate your intuition? No, you posted this thread with the certainty the kid was lying. He wasn't.

[Mikeanaro]

Lol wall of text like anyone cares
Because Im pretty sure I was talking to you, nobody.

[Pavlov]

You clearly are not up to speed on the information put forth in this thread. Review it and then make an argument that matters.


Only one true story, yes. Hogg has two stories (at least).Nope, you have not posted any primary source evidence (which you demanded of everyone else) that proves Hogg was anywhere but his high school when the shooting happened.

Still waiting....

[Spurtacular]

Nope, you have not posted any primary source evidence (which you demanded of everyone else) that proves Hogg was anywhere but his high school when the shooting happened.

Still waiting....

The argument has evolved past that, bro. Like I said, review the thread and get up to speed.

[Spurtacular]

Because Im pretty sure I was talking to you, nobody.

Slob knows he belongs in the club. For politics, he's about on cuck Blake (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=3460)'s level. :lol

[Pavlov]

The argument has evolved past that, bro.Nope, you're stuck in the same spot. You're just trying to squirm out of it by talking about your feelings.

You have not posted any primary source evidence (which you demanded of everyone else) that proves Hogg was anywhere but his high school when the shooting happened.

Still waiting....

[Mikeanaro]

Slob knows he belongs in the club. For politics, he's about on cuck Blake (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=3460)'s level. :lol
Lol, also I was wondering it he went to school again where the hell were his parents, riding a bike like a girl at age 18 (being kinda wealthy) is truly pathetic.
Did his parents pick him up from school? or they were busy working making a better place?
Everything smells like a huge dung pie.

[Spurtacular]

Nope, you're stuck in the same spot. You're just trying to squirm out of it by talking about your feelings.

You have not posted any primary source evidence (which you demanded of everyone else) that proves Hogg was anywhere but his high school when the shooting happened.

Still waiting....

It has evolved, bro. While I've more or less left it open to the possibility that he could've been at school and then been at home watching the news, I've also reviewed the many contradictions in his story that show him to be a liar that cannot be trusted either way.

[Pavlov]

It has evolved, bro. While I've more or less left it open to the possibility that he could've been at school and then been at home watching the news, I've also reviewed the many contradictions in his story that show him to be a liar that cannot be trusted either way.There are no contradictions in his story.

There is only one story.

You are wrong.

You've been wrong from the start of this thread.

You can't evolve your way out of that.

[Spurtacular]

Nope, you're stuck in the same spot. You're just trying to squirm out of it by talking about your feelings.

You have not posted any primary source evidence (which you demanded of everyone else) that proves Hogg was anywhere but his high school when the shooting happened.

Still waiting....

You should actually read the post you were replying to so that you can know how sad this statement really is. :lol

[Pavlov]

You should actually read the post you were replying to so that you can know how sad this statement really is. :lolRead it.

What part are you having trouble with?

You're still wrong about Hogg.

[Spurtacular]

Mikeanaro

:lol More sketchiness


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76advGTYIpo

[Spurtacular]

https://conservativepush.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/David-Hogg-posing-for-CNN.jpg

[Spurtacular]

Read it.

What part are you having trouble with?

You're still wrong about Hogg.

Lack of clarity and blather; we all know what that means, tbh.

[Spurtacular]

ElNono

11:11 Hogg whispering, "It's not a drill. We heard gunshots".

Then we all know that he later claimed to find out it was a shooting from the TV.

We don't know if part of his story is BS or all of it. We just know that he is a liar. Come to terms, or I guess be a partisan if that's what makes you happy.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2e8l4neXO6E

[Pavlov]

Lack of clarity and blather; we all know what that means, tbh.What part are you having trouble with?

[Pavlov]

<b><a href="http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8054" target="_blank">ElNono</a></b>

11:11 Hogg whispering, "It's not a drill. We heard gunshots".

Then we all know that he later claimed to find out it was a shooting from the TV.

We don't know if part of his story is BS or all of it. We just know that he is a liar. Come to terms, or I guess be a partisan if that's what makes you happy.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2e8l4neXO6ENo. You're wrong.

You've been wrong all along.

Hogg never said he found out it was a shooting from the TV.

[Spurtacular]

No. You're wrong.

You've been wrong all along.

Hogg never said he found out it was a shooting from the TV.

Review the OP, dumbass.

[Pavlov]

Review the OP, dumbass.I did.

You're wrong. You've been wrong from the start.

Hogg never said he found out it was a shooting from the TV.

[Chris]

Even if I were to think Hogg is a hack and a liar, facts are not based on Hoggs statements, but third party accounts with no reason whatsoever to lie.

:lmao

[ElNono]

ElNono

11:11 Hogg whispering, "It's not a drill. We heard gunshots".

Then we all know that he later claimed to find out it was a shooting from the TV.

We don't know if part of his story is BS or all of it. We just know that he is a liar. Come to terms, or I guess be a partisan if that's what makes you happy.

:lol @ 'We'
:lol partisan

He never said what you said he did, we already went over that.

Dunno what this Hogg kid did, but it cut deep, tbh... don't page me until you bring up some actual evidence, not some 'connect the dots' kookoo shit.

We already have Cosmoretard for that, tbh

[ElNono]

:lmao

:lol that's really telling me... Mr vapid to the rescue.

[ElNono]

I've been actually very kind with my time here, tried to be gentle. Now turns out because I don't buy some conspiracy kookoo shit (after asking multiple times for actual evidence), I'm a partisan hack. :lol

Wow, talk about jumping to conclusions.

[Mikeanaro]

Mikeanaro (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=44789)

:lol More sketchiness


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76advGTYIpo
:lmao
Dude looks like a fucking squirrel, always in the action scene telling us what happened...

Also look at that stoned fat fuck, with his entitlement the guy said him ¨Im not your parents¨ and the slob tells him to fuck off, in most places you get your ass kicked talking like that to authorities.

Do we want a world full of these talentless hacks?

:lmao¨Happened¨ Hogg is full of shit.

[Spurtacular]

:lol @ 'We'
:lol partisan

He never said what you said he did, we already went over that.

Dunno what this Hogg kid did, but it cut deep, tbh... don't page me until you bring up some actual evidence, not some 'connect the dots' kookoo shit.

We already have Cosmoretard for that, tbh

Vagueness followed by blather. I guess you know you've lost, chump style. :lol

[Spurtacular]

I've been actually very kind with my time here, tried to be gentle. Now turns out because I don't buy some conspiracy kookoo shit (after asking multiple times for actual evidence), I'm a partisan hack. :lol

Wow, talk about jumping to conclusions.

:lol Triggered; having to throw out the big guns with all the conspiracy talk. I haven't even went that level on you though. I've just showed you beyond a reasonable doubt that this kid has weaved at least two different stories. You can't accept that; I have to conclude you're a partisan of sorts. You're certainly not a man of truth. Sorry, but I hope you like apples, bro.

[Spurtacular]

:lmao
Dude looks like a fucking squirrel, always in the action scene telling us what happened...

Also look at that stoned fat fuck, with his entitlement the guy said him ¨Im not your parents¨ and the slob tells him to fuck off, in most places you get your ass kicked talking like that to authorities.

Do we want a world full of these talentless hacks?

:lmao¨Happened¨ Hogg is full of shit.

:lol Snowflake couldn't be told not to put his board on a public trashcan.
:lol David Hogg not manning up when he could be a professional victim instead.

[Spurtacular]

I've been actually very kind with my time here

Oh, we're ever so honored that the great Nono would descend to us. It must be bitter for you to take all that time for an L. :lol

[ElNono]

Ooooooh, that's what this is about, internet victory, you should've started there, and I would've saved some time.

Sure! you win :thumbsup

[ElNono]

Yeah, people that read this thread are totally convinced. You really showed them...

I'm left questioning the education system in America, but that's material for another thread.

[ElNono]

I'm totally partisan too, BTW... my 110.000+ posts show I'm totally sold for the deep state. Like totally, I never would think for myself. I'm like Chris and boutons on steroids. Sounds legit...

[Spurtacular]

Ooooooh, that's what this is about, internet victory, you should've started there, and I would've saved some time.

Sure! you win :thumbsup


Yeah, people that read this thread are totally convinced. You really showed them...

I'm left questioning the education system in America, but that's material for another thread.


Yeah, people that read this thread are totally convinced. You really showed them...

I'm left questioning the education system in America, but that's material for another thread.

Don't care if you call it an L or not. You checked out though. And I call it partisan cos you clearly lean one way to not accept simple truth. I've showed you in no uncertain terms that Hogg weaved two different stories. It's black and white. It's not even disputable, bro. He knew about the shooting at school and then somehow didn't later when he's watching the news, according to himself (primary source too: Pavlov, idiot).

[spurraider21]

Don't care if you call it an L or not. You checked out though. And I call it partisan cos you clearly lean one way to not accept simple truth. I've showed you in no uncertain terms that Hogg weaved two different stories. It's black and white. It's not even disputable, bro. He knew about the shooting at school and then somehow didn't later when he's watching the news, according to himself (primary source too: Pavlov (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7343), idiot).


No tbh. This is where your story falls apart. He never said that he wasn’t aware of the shooting. When he saw media was there doing interviews he biked back to school.

[spurraider21]

I would think that of Chris, but not Spurtacular.

I might not agree with a lot of his takes, but he's not above having a good discussion. That said, he fell for basically a photoshop of real news. It happens to a lot of people these days.

What we can do is respectfully disagree and make them aware, then it's up to them.
:lol

[ElNono]

:lol

:lol

[ElNono]

My biggest takeaway from this thread is how the people that bitch the most about media bias have a textbook cases of confirmation bias. :lol

Look at this case where the source would otherwise be considered 'biased and unreliable', but suddenly and selectively becomes the exact opposite just because it pretends to corroborate some personal bias.

Seen it a million times here with guys like Cobra, Yoni, boutons, etc. If you even wonder how the likes of O'Keefe or Michael Moore have an audience, look no further.

[spurraider21]

My biggest takeaway from this thread is how the people that bitch the most about media bias have a textbook cases of confirmation bias. :lol

Look at this case where the source would otherwise be considered 'biased and unreliable', but suddenly and selectively becomes the exact opposite just because it pretends to corroborate some personal bias.

Seen it a million times here with guys like Cobra, Yoni, boutons, etc. If you even wonder how the likes of O'Keefe or Michael Moore have an audience, look no further.
you're just a blue-pill sheep

[ElNono]

you're just a blue-pill sheep

totally

[Spurtacular]

My biggest takeaway from this thread is how the people that bitch the most about media bias have a textbook cases of confirmation bias. :lol

Look at this case where the source would otherwise be considered 'biased and unreliable', but suddenly and selectively becomes the exact opposite just because it pretends to corroborate some personal bias.

Seen it a million times here with guys like Cobra, Yoni, boutons, etc. If you even wonder how the likes of O'Keefe or Michael Moore have an audience, look no further.

My biggest take is that you don't accept truth unless it's state sanctioned. Every time, you've ran from the fact that David Hogg showcased he was under attack and hiding in a room and then later said he found out about the attack on the news. You have dodged that conflicting story, time and time again. Apparently if the NYT doesn't do a story saying this is the case then it just can't be what happened. Also, you've became quite passive aggressive rather than deal with the established fact that Hogg has obviously lied.

[Pavlov]

My biggest take is that you don't accept truth unless it's state sanctioned. Every time, you've ran from the fact that David Hogg showcased he was under attack and hiding in a room and then later said he found out about the attack on the news. You have dodged that conflicting story, time and time again. Apparently if the NYT doesn't do a story saying this is the case then it just can't be what happened. Also, you've became quite passive aggressive rather than deal with the established fact that Hogg has obviously lied.
Hogg never said he found out about the shooting from the news.

You made that up.

[Chris]

Also, you've became quite passive aggressive rather than deal with the established fact that Hogg has obviously lied.

Coping mechanism.

[Spurtacular]

Hogg never said he found out about the shooting from the news.

You made that up.

He was at home when he found out about the shooting on the news and he got on his bike and peddled the three miles as fast as he could to the school, he said. His own words, bruh.

[Pavlov]

He was at home when he found out about the shooting on the news and he got on his bike and peddled the three miles as fast as he could to the school, he said. His own words, bruh.No, those were not his own words. You never quote him because you simply make shit up.

[clambake]

big deal. its perfectly ok to lie now.

[Pavlov]

Don't care if you call it an L or not. You checked out though. And I call it partisan cos you clearly lean one way to not accept simple truth. I've showed you in no uncertain terms that Hogg weaved two different stories. It's black and white. It's not even disputable, bro. He knew about the shooting at school and then somehow didn't later when he's watching the news, according to himself (primary source too: Pavlov, idiot).It's not a primary source if you just make up words.

[Spurtacular]

No, those were not his own words. You never quote him because you simply make shit up.

He tells the story of person just having learned of the shooting and frantically reacting.