View Full Version : Celtics: Last 5 minutes of game 7. Worst shot selection in NBA history?
UNT Eagles 2016
05-27-2018, 10:11 PM
I've watched thousands of playoff games, live and on video of games since the 1960s, and it's safe to say, I've never seen worse shot selection in a game where everything mattered like this.
Literally, the Celtics played as bad, or worse, than the average hoodrat pickup game street hoopers. Take turns dribbling around and jacking the first possible bad 3 you can get off. And if they get an offensive rebound? Don't even pass, just dribble back out and chuck another bad 3. Oh. My. God. LeBron got off SOOOOOOOOOO easy.
Killakobe81
05-27-2018, 10:13 PM
True. but cavs get a little credit for that too and ...
their two projected leading scorers and guys who are proven scorers were out ...
that being said ...fuck dem.
Leetonidas
05-27-2018, 10:14 PM
Did you watch harden last night in the third quarter?
Chillen
05-27-2018, 10:16 PM
Yes, I mentioned in the other thread I wanted to throw something at the TV the play was so bad like a YMCA game.
UNT Eagles 2016
05-27-2018, 10:16 PM
True. but cavs get a little credit for that too and ...
their two projected leading scorers and guys who are proven scorers were out ...
that being said ...fuck dem.
Hayward is a net negative. Irving is erratic but elite when he's on. They definitely could have used the latter tonight, though.
I've watched thousands of playoff games,
:lol bullshit
UNT Eagles 2016
05-27-2018, 10:18 PM
:lol bullshit
I was addicted to NBATV in 2002 because it came free that year with my grandma's cable subscription. I probably watched 500+ old games that year alone.
"Welcome Back to the NBA's Greatest Games, tonight we will re-live one of basketball's greatest matchups as it happened"...
UNT Eagles 2016
05-27-2018, 10:19 PM
Did you watch harden last night in the third quarter?
Yes, but he made a couple, and he didn't singlehandedly chuck them out. The problem for Houston last night was mainly the turnovers. They should have had that game won by halftime last night had they even played an average clean game. Should have been up 25+. They squandered such a golden opportunity.
I was addicted to NBATV in 2002 because it came free that year with my grandma's cable subscription. I probably watched 500+ old games that year alone.
"Welcome Back to the NBA's Greatest Games, tonight we will re-live one of basketball's greatest matchups as it happened"...
If every series in every season went 7 games (not even counting the years that they didn't even play best of 7), it would take 20 years to get 2100 games. So you've watched thousands of playoff games, you've watched at least every playoff game for the past 30 years because the large majority of series don't go 7 games. But I'll give you 2100 as the number for 20 years of games and I call bullshit.
I've watched thousands of playoff games, live and on video of games since the 1960s
:lmao
Quadzilla99
05-27-2018, 10:24 PM
Hayward is a net negative.
Lol
HarlemHeat37
05-27-2018, 10:24 PM
I'd love to get some analysis on 1960s ball, buddy..when did they learn to use their other hand to dribble a ball?
I'd love to get some analysis on 1960s ball, buddy..when did they learn to use their other hand to dribble a ball?
Other hand was for smacking hoes and beating black people
HarlemHeat37
05-27-2018, 10:35 PM
Other hand was for smacking hoes and beating black people
:lol and smoking cigarettes between quarters..
:lol and smoking cigarettes between quarters..
:lol I was going to say that. I imagine them on a "fast break" with a fresh one hanging.
UNT Eagles 2016
05-27-2018, 10:39 PM
If every series in every season went 7 games (not even counting the years that they didn't even play best of 7), it would take 20 years to get 2100 games. So you've watched thousands of playoff games, you've watched at least every playoff game for the past 30 years because the large majority of series don't go 7 games. But I'll give you 2100 as the number for 20 years of games and I call bullshit.
Alright then I've probably watched 500-1000 in total. But hyperbole, folks.
UNT Eagles 2016
05-27-2018, 10:40 PM
Lol
It's true. Remember the Jazz Clippers series last year.
UNT Eagles 2016
05-27-2018, 10:42 PM
I'd love to get some analysis on 1960s ball, buddy..when did they learn to use their other hand to dribble a ball?
Idk, but I've seen some of the old Wilt and Russell era games they used to show on NBATV and I never liked the three to make two rule. Which of course was imposed to account for Wilt's horrid shotput free throws which he made around half of.
Alright then I've probably watched 500-1000 in total. But hyperbole, folks.
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UNT Eagles 2016
05-27-2018, 10:48 PM
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The ones I remember most were the one with Jerry West's halfcourt prayer and the one with Don Nelson's shot that bounced around and went in and the Celtics won game 7 on the road in LA.
HarlemHeat37
05-27-2018, 10:50 PM
I feel like there's a poster who could school us on this shit Avante
Spurtacular
05-27-2018, 11:02 PM
Terrible shot selection. Not a lot of penetration and just a lot of chucking. Brad Stevens never seemed to tell them to go to the bucket (Tatum's dunk aside).
Spurtacular
05-27-2018, 11:03 PM
I feel like there's a poster who could school us on this shit Avante (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=33483)
He probably knows basketball players from the 1940's and is eminently qualified. :lol
Clipper Nation
05-27-2018, 11:05 PM
This wasn't even the worst shot selection of the 2018 conference finals :lol
Frauden and Durbeta have been chucking up some straight garbage.
UNT Eagles 2016
05-27-2018, 11:09 PM
He probably knows basketball players from the 1940's and is eminently qualified. :lol
Not sure if Avante even watches basketball honestly. Or maybe he'll make up a false story about the SoCal team that won an NBA championship in 1943.
Ice009
05-28-2018, 12:46 AM
Yep, I thought those last 3 minutes of the game, the Celtics played some of the most retarded ball I've seen. I only recall Jayson Tatum getting the ball once or twice after he got them the lead. His retarded teammates tried to be heroes after getting offensive rebounds, they just kept jacking up questionable three point after questionable three point shot. They didn't even bother passing the ball more than once on most of those shots.
Identify who your superstar is, and live or die with him in those last 3 minutes of the game. Tatum was playing awesome and he should have got the ball more. His stupid teammates just jacked up silly shot after silly shot after they were fortunate enough to get those offensive rebounds. They completely squandered all the good they had done up to that point in those last 3 minutes of the game. Maybe the moment got to them, but maybe that supercoach should have also called a timeout and reminded them on how to play the game.
endrity
05-28-2018, 12:56 AM
Maybe the occasion finally got to them.
There was a nice article on The Ringer regarding the West Finals, but which I think applies in this case as well. Once a series has gone 6 or 7 games, often the defense has figured out every set and play that the offense likes to run. At that point it's pretty much isoball v. isoball, and the team with the best player wins.
In addition to LeBron being the best player, the Celtics still don't want to live or die with Tatum, as Ice said^.
Caltex2
05-28-2018, 12:57 AM
:lol bullshit
How is that BS? There's 80-90 playoff games a year. Watch most of them for 15 years and that's well over a thousand.
Stabula
05-28-2018, 01:00 AM
Didn't use Horford nearly enough
Caltex2
05-28-2018, 01:15 AM
Yes, but he made a couple, and he didn't singlehandedly chuck them out. The problem for Houston last night was mainly the turnovers. They should have had that game won by halftime last night had they even played an average clean game. Should have been up 25+. They squandered such a golden opportunity.
Turnovers and bench. D'Antoni was too stubborn to spot his shortened rotation a few minutes. Nene could do a fine Capela impersonation if you limit him to 10-15 minutes. Why else is he even on an NBA roster if he can't even play a few minutes? You're just buying time, not changing your rotation. Ryan Anderson is a 3-point chucker, find him a few minutes in the second and third. They should have, at worst, lost by 15 Saturady, not 29.
How is that BS? There's 80-90 playoff games a year. Watch most of them for 15 years and that's well over a thousand.
I explained it already.
I feel like there's a poster who could school us on this shit Avante
Clarence "Mudbone" Washington ran the 40 in under 4. They called him Yeti because he had handles on the outside and was cold as fuck on the inside.
UNT Eagles 2016
05-28-2018, 06:39 AM
Turnovers and bench. D'Antoni was too stubborn to spot his shortened rotation a few minutes. Nene could do a fine Capela impersonation if you limit him to 10-15 minutes. Why else is he even on an NBA roster if he can't even play a few minutes? You're just buying time, not changing your rotation. Ryan Anderson is a 3-point chucker, find him a few minutes in the second and third. They should have, at worst, lost by 15 Saturady, not 29.
Hilario and Anderson are quality NBA rotation players. WTF. I don't like Pop for his politics, but that's one thing I side with him on over Danton'tni.
Chris Fall
05-28-2018, 09:51 AM
I know Brad Stevens loves him and so do his teammates. And I know he seems to make those timely plays. But Marcus Smart is a shitbag offensive player. Yeah he’s tough and plays hard. And he has an edge to him Boston seems to admire. But he’s just not a good offensive player, especially in crunch time. Because when it comes down to it, if you’re the defense, you leave him alone and focus on, shade, double, trap the better scorers with his defender. Stevens left Smart in the game too long. When he finally brought Rozier back, I think he still left Smart in the game. And Rozier was out of rhythm and he started to look to chuck as well.
For all his faults, in a close elimination game like that, especially when you’re down, you want Kyrie’s offense over the trash Marcus Smart brings to the table.
endrity
05-28-2018, 10:28 AM
I don't think anyone would argue that Kyrie would have brought something extra to the table. It's debatable with Hayward because Brown and Tatum stepped up a lot during the season, but Smart and Rozier for all their effort are nowhere near Kyrie's class.
UNT Eagles 2016
05-28-2018, 11:16 AM
I don't think anyone would argue that Kyrie would have brought something extra to the table. It's debatable with Hayward because Brown and Tatum stepped up a lot during the season, but Smart and Rozier for all their effort are nowhere near Kyrie's class.
Smart and Rozier are choking chuckers.
Your signature is pretty awesome, though. Even today. The "marketable and talented" player is dead, and the "overhyped foreign prospect" is still going strong in the NBA today. Holy shit. :lol
endrity
05-28-2018, 11:20 AM
That was the Sports Illustrated report on the 98 Draft. Quite amazing when you think about it, for Dirk of course. For The Tractor, it's of course a tragic personal story that I wish on no one.
I know Brad Stevens loves him and so do his teammates. And I know he seems to make those timely plays. But Marcus Smart is a shitbag offensive player. Yeah he’s tough and plays hard. And he has an edge to him Boston seems to admire. But he’s just not a good offensive player, especially in crunch time. Because when it comes down to it, if you’re the defense, you leave him alone and focus on, shade, double, trap the better scorers with his defender. Stevens left Smart in the game too long. When he finally brought Rozier back, I think he still left Smart in the game. And Rozier was out of rhythm and he started to look to chuck as well.
For all his faults, in a close elimination game like that, especially when you’re down, you want Kyrie’s offense over the trash Marcus Smart brings to the table.
Rozier was like 2 for 14 and 0-10 from 3. Smart was 1-10. Yeah huge improvement there.
They both went hero. They both saw the moment slip away, got too high on the lead, got too low when they gave up the lead. They both lost trust in their team despite all the platitudes they spew about trusting their team. Tatum should have had the ball on every possession at least once. They froze him out over and over. They deserved to lose. Stevens was complicit.
ambchang
05-29-2018, 06:59 AM
I'd love to get some analysis on 1960s ball, buddy..when did they learn to use their other hand to dribble a ball?
Klay Thompson is still learning to dribble a his strong hand.
Klay Thompson is still learning to dribble a his strong hand.
but he's better than Kawhi...
:lol
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