05 Suns vs 18 Rockets

[Arcadian]

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/PHO/2005.html

ORtg 114.5 DRtg 107.1

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/HOU/2018.html

ORtg 114.7 DRtg 106.1

[RsxPiimp]

rox team played defense. took the warriors 7 games to beat this hobbled team. they exceeded expectations.

[AlexJones]

Failure is taking the dynasty team to 7 games when no other team could even make it to a 6th game

[Arcadian]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXNgO0bBcSs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEuYlT4-9Ok

[endrity]

This Rockets team. The 04-05 Suns, the first of the Nash era, essentially had a 5 man "rotation". They barely used their bench in the regular season, let alone the playoffs. And eventually they decided to use Steven Hunter a lot more in Western Finals because Duncan was killing Amare inside ... and we all know how that ended.

The Rockets had a longer bench, which they shortened substantially in the playoffs but still had an 8 man rotation. They also achieved 65 wins with CP3 missing around 20 games.

So essentially they had the same offensive and defensive rating, better record, while having their second best player out for a quarter of the season and using a lot more of their scrub players. But maybe, just maybe, the 06-07 Suns were a bit better.

[InRareForm]

What about 2007 sun's?

[140]

Those Suns teams were really enjoyable to watch, tbh. These Rokets on the other hand make me wanna gouge my eyes out with a tetanus infected fork

[Arcadian]

I liked the Suns' big 3 more than the Rockets' best players. Nash the orchestrator and shooter, Marion the defender and slasher, Stoudemire the inside presence. By surrounding them with shooters and playing a run and gun style before it was popular, that core should have rang. Maybe you all are right that the 07 Suns were their best iteration.

[lefty]

18 Rocks are better defensively
05 Suns had the better offense

[lefty]

Those Suns teams were really enjoyable to watch, tbh. These Rokets on the other hand make me wanna gouge my eyes out with a tetanus infected fork

:lol tbh

[Arcadian]

Bump...vote is currently tied

[Spurtacular]

Failure is taking the dynasty team to 7 games when no other team could even make it to a 6th game

Did the Suns take the Spurs to 7 in 05?

[Gummi Clutch]

The 15' rockets are a MUCH better team if you are talking about championship hopes.

The suns were more fun to watch. That's really all there is.

[Fabbs]

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[Caltex2]

The 15' rockets are a MUCH better team if you are talking about championship hopes.

The suns were more fun to watch. That's really all there is.

That team was beat soundly by the Warriors before KD got there. This team was an injury and bad shooting away from beating a better Warriors team.

[Arcadian]

How do we feel about the 05-07 Suns vs the 17-19 Rockets now?

[lefty]

Those Suns teams were really enjoyable to watch, tbh. These Rokets on the other hand make me wanna gouge my eyes out with a tetanus infected fork

:lol

[FrostKing]

Mismatch


Suns had 2 elite players, 2 great sidekicks and burners off the bench.


If I'm combining the teams, the only Rocket I'm taking is Harden

[Will Hunting]

What about 2007 sun's?
Joe Johnson is why the 05 Suns are clearly better than the 07 Suns imo, people forget JJ was on that team because he was injured for the entire Dallas series and didn't come back in the WCF until the Suns had already lost 2 games at home (and thus the series).

Also, Amare was still really good in 2007, but he never regained the full explosion/athleticism he had in 2005 pre-microfracture surgery. As much as he couldn't guard Duncan in 2005, Duncan was equally bad at guarding him.

The 05 Suns in tod:loly's NBA would be able to take Golden State to 7 games. Nash guarding Curry would be a ugly but 05 was before Nash completely stopped playing defense and Curry doesn't have the superior athleticism that PGs who were really good at destroying Nash had (i.e., Parker). GS also wouldn't have an answer for prime Amare.

The 2018 Rockets IMO would also get killed by the 2005 Spurs (assuming it's being played in 2005). Duncan would massacre whoever he was guarding, and I don't see the 2018 Rockets extremely predictable isoball doing much against a defense as good as the 2005 Spurs' defense was.

[baseline bum]

How do we feel about the 05-07 Suns vs the 17-19 Rockets now?

Both are capital PH phaggots.

[Arcadian]

Joe Johnson is why the 05 Suns are clearly better than the 07 Suns imo, people forget JJ was on that team because he was injured for the entire Dallas series and didn't come back in the WCF until the Suns had already lost 2 games at home (and thus the series).

Also, Amare was still really good in 2007, but he never regained the full explosion/athleticism he had in 2005 pre-microfracture surgery. As much as he couldn't guard Duncan in 2005, Duncan was equally bad at guarding him.

The 05 Suns in tod:loly's NBA would be able to take Golden State to 7 games. Nash guarding Curry would be a ugly but 05 was before Nash completely stopped playing defense and Curry doesn't have the superior athleticism that PGs who were really good at destroying Nash had (i.e., Parker). GS also wouldn't have an answer for prime Amare.

The 2018 Rockets IMO would also get killed by the 2005 Spurs (assuming it's being played in 2005). Duncan would massacre whoever he was guarding, and I don't see the 2018 Rockets extremely predictable isoball doing much against a defense as good as the 2005 Spurs' defense was.

:tu Agree with all of the above