Houston Rockets have a better organization than the Spurs.

[apalisoc_9]

Their culture and philosophy is conducive to consistent winning the in the modern era.

- Happy Superstars
- Lots of players that can shoot 3s
- Lots of players that can defend and 3.

Their philisophy is modern. Its never about corporate. Its about the players and winning.

[Chinook]

And yet they can't win shit.

[8FOR!3]

And yet in the modern era we have a ring and they don't...

[DPG21920]

Ryan Anderson making Mills:Pau look like steals :lol

No youth at all to build around.

Salary cap hell with no ring and the same amount of WCF as SA the past 4 years.

[Robz4000]

And yet they can't win shit.

[exstatic]

And yet they can't win shit.


And yet in the modern era we have a ring and they don't...

[Vic Petro]

They hired Mike D’Antoni.

/thread

[ducks]

Their culture and philosophy is conducive to consistent winning the in the modern era.

- Happy Superstars
- Lots of players that can shoot 3s
- Lots of players that can defend and 3.

Their philisophy is modern. Its never about corporate. Its about the players and winning.

27 straight misses record I thought you said they could hit threes

[TheGreatYacht]

Truth bomb by OP as per usual PATFO fluffers swarm like bees....

Drunkford only likes No 3 & No D players like Danny Green

[bbarry]

T W E N T Y S E V E N

[Play Boban]

Their culture and philosophy is conducive to consistent winning the in the modern era.

- Happy Superstars
- Lots of players that can shoot 3s
- Lots of players that can defend and 3.

Their philisophy is modern. Its never about corporate. Its about the players and winning.
:lol

[Dex]

I didn't realizes Daryl Morey had burner accounts.

[rjv]

another ST look at me thread disguised as a basketball take.

[coachmac87]

OP is a faggot

[TheGreatYacht]

T W E N T Y S E V E N
T W E N T Y - T W O P E R C E N T

..... is what our brick specialists (Green, Bertans, Forbes) shot from 3 in the playoffs

[SpursDynasty85]

And yet in the modern era we have a ring and they don't...
*2014 was only possible because Spurs big 3 miraculously were still effective*
Honestly I would rather have Daryl Morey than RC Buford at this point. I love the Spurs culture and family atmosphere but you have to wonder whether they could do more to generate more revenue this giving Buford and Pop more money to work with. Daryl Morey is a very very good GM and his ability to find assets and sign them is very good. It's too bad they had two very flawed stars in Howard and Harden but this year, they got Very unlucky with CP3 injury and those Refs in game 7. I hate Harden but Rockets seem like they will be good moving forward despite some cap issues this offseason.

[.G.]

lol
Nah mang

[exstatic]

*2014 was only possible because Spurs big 3 miraculously were still effective*
Honestly I would rather have Daryl Morey than RC Buford at this point. I love the Spurs culture and family atmosphere but you have to wonder whether they could do more to generate more revenue this giving Buford and Pop more money to work with. Daryl Morey is a very very good GM and his ability to find assets and sign them is very good. It's too bad they had two very flawed stars in Howard and Harden but this year, they got Very unlucky with CP3 injury and those Refs in game 7. I hate Harden but Rockets seem like they will be good moving forward despite some cap issues this offseason.
And who's responsible for acquiring those two flawed stars?

[K...]

Jazz core > all cores , so it was spoken

[szkorhetz]

Jazz core > all cores , so it was spoken
Their future seems much brighter than ours, TBQH.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Op has a mangina...

[hater]

LOLCKETS :lmao

[Maddog]

Ryan Anderson making Mills:Pau look like steals :lol

No youth at all to build around.

Salary cap hell with no ring and the same amount of WCF as SA the past 4 years.

I tend to agree the Rockets long term outlook is cloudy.
They will be at 80 million next year and three key players to their success are FA of some sort. Ariza, Capela and Paul.
Unless Paul takes a discount they are going into the Luxury tax with some rather old parts...

[apalisoc_9]

The rockets lost paul. They were on the way to winning a ring.

The fact of the matter is that the rockets know modern culture. The spurs dont.

[DPG21920]

Jabari shtick ^

[Raven]

... so "assets" Morey is about the players not the corporate..

[DPG21920]

Exactly. Morey has gotten into hot water by literally doing the opposite of what OP is saying. He doesn’t value continuity, relationships and has eroded plenty of goodwill by the way he runs things.

Doesn’t mean he’s bad; far from it. He’s damn talented and smart. But OP is just trolling anyways.

But I do agree, there is a fine line in loyalty and holding on a bit too long and what Morey does which is views players a stocks and not people.

Between the two strategies, it’s hard to argue HOU has done better with their philosophy than SA though and ultimately results matter.

[GB20]

The rockets lost paul. They were on the way to winning a ring.

The fact of the matter is that the rockets know modern culture. The spurs dont.

And the spurs beat them last year in the playoff without kawhi and tony.

[DPG21920]

In the past 5 years:

SA (going in reverse): 1st round, WCF, Semi’s, 1st round, NBA Champs
HOU (going in reverse): WCF, Semi’s, 1st round, WCF, 1st round

So no matter how you slice things and if you care about results vs trolling, nothing HOU has done as resulted in more than SA has done and that is just modern history (past 5 years) since GS rose to prominence

[superbigtime]

Riiiight.
I do agree that their philosophy is 'modern' in that they fully embrace the trend of one on one chuck ball.

[Poolboy5623]

Had their players stopped shooting all those 3s and actually attacked the hoop, they might be playing tomorrow night.....but carry on..

[ECOV]

And the spurs beat them last year in the playoff without kawhi and tony.

[SpursDynasty85]

And who's responsible for acquiring those two flawed stars?

What was the alternative? They still won games and contended. It doesn't work he moves on the next one. You can fault some of his moves but his ability to be creative and make improvements each year have been impressive.

[Spur|n|Austin]

And yet they can't win shit.

/thread

[SpursDynasty85]

I'm a die hard Spurs fan but you have to recognize the powerhouse Houston Rockets have built. Their arena is INCREDIBLE, they have the best GM in the NBA, and the Houston Market is very good and getting bigger every second. Houston is the most diversified metropolitan in the US as well. *negative is that they have a Super Star that plays bball in a way that could be ruining the NBA (look for sissy fouls instead of playing tough) but we had Bruce Bowen who injured players and we cheered him on like crazy. Can't blame Houston too much for that. If Spurs want to see GS in the western conference finals again it will have to go through the Rockets for the next few years likely. With Popovich nearing retirement, big 3 almost out the door, and this Kawhi drama, Spurs might be heading into very lean times moving forward. Let's hope ownership stays strong!!

[exstatic]

What was the alternative? They still won games and contended. It doesn't work he moves on the next one. You can fault some of his moves but his ability to be creative and make improvements each year have been impressive.

So, he makes moves year to year, and yet has done no better than RC. Got it. You like flashy moves, even if they don't pan out.

[tenbeersbold]

What was the alternative? They still won games and contended. It doesn't work he moves on the next one. You can fault some of his moves but his ability to be creative and make improvements each year have been impressive.

Sorry but after watching Frauden quit last year against the Spurs in the PO's
I'd have traded him ASAP,a loser always... sorry thems the facts

[SpursDynasty85]

So, he makes moves year to year, and yet has done no better than RC. Got it. You like flashy moves, even if they don't pan out.

Lol. Well Buford is still top notch too. Just trying to state the obvious that Houston is a good franchise in today's NBA no need to pretend they aren't. With Buford I wonder how much of the mistakes were his fault or him having to listen to Pop. Either way both GMs are good. I'll just leave it at that for you.

[Budkin]

Ryan Anderson making Mills:Pau look like steals :lol

No youth at all to build around.

Salary cap hell with no ring and the same amount of WCF as SA the past 4 years.

[SpursDynasty85]

Sorry but after watching Frauden quit last year against the Spurs in the PO's
I'd have traded him ASAP,a loser always... sorry thems the facts

No you wouldn't. Those decisions aren't easily made. Just like Aldridge couldn't be traded. Harden turned in an MVP year the year after and could argue for screwed out of a ring by the refs. I dont like him and never will but you dont trade harden unless you can get a Kawhi Leonard, Lebron James, AD, or Kevin Durant. None of which he could've gotten.

[John B]

CP3 leaving early mad after watching his team squandered 15 pts at home in the game of his life. Yes he’s very happy.

[diego]

T W E N T Y - T W O P E R C E N T

..... is what our brick specialists (Green, Bertans, Forbes) shot from 3 in the playoffs

:lol rockets vs GS compared to SAS
+1.6 PPG +.007% FG +.016%3 +.018% TS +.7 ORTG

What an amazing offensive difference! I wonder if these stats would change if kawhi played and harden didn't...

[Clipper Nation]

:lol Just wait until they give CP0 the Fatty Mills loyalty contract times infinity. They already obscenely overpaid Frauden. And just wait until they choke in the playoffs a couple more times and CP0 starts using his teammates as scapegoats - just like he did in LA.

The Celtics and Jazz are great organizations. I'd list the Sixers too, but the Colangelo burner account thing hurts their image right now. In contrast, the Rockets are just thirsty for "stars."

[SpursDynasty85]

:lol Just wait until they give CP0 the Fatty Mills loyalty contract times infinity. They already obscenely overpaid Frauden. And just wait until they choke in the playoffs a couple more times and CP0 starts using his teammates as scapegoats - just like he did in LA.

The Celtics and Jazz are great organizations. I'd list the Sixers too, but the Colangelo burner account thing hurts their image right now. In contrast, the Rockets are just thirsty for "stars."

You dont think the Rockets wouldve won if they had a healthy CP3 or if the refs didn't blatantly favor the warriors? Admittedly I was cheering against the Rockets but game 7 was obvious and CP3 was balling until of course again a stupid hamstring injury. Sucks for them. Seemed like the best chance they ever had.

[jmard5]

Don't feed the trolls.

[JPB]

It was Rockettes chance this year. They were on a mission, with Beard and Cliff having lots to prove, Kawhard out and the Dubs vulnerable. But you can't be on a mission every year, specially after losing like that.

They (Morey) sacrificed core players and took a risk on an injury riddled, back end of his prime CP3 that cynically backfired the hard way. Now they're facing another dilemma on resigning Paul for another 5 years and whatever crazy money his agent asks, or letting him go and having nothing to show for their trade.

Add a few role players asking soon for a bigger payday, and aging roster and no real assets (+ that terrible Ryno contrat) and you can see them getting back in the pack soon. Even Harden getting traded or asking to be.

Morey was very close to get his ass moved the last couple of years. Another empty year and he could be gone next summer.

[Clipper Nation]

You dont think the Rockets wouldve won if they had a healthy CP3 or if the refs didn't blatantly favor the warriors? Admittedly I was cheering against the Rockets but game 7 was obvious and CP3 was balling until of course again a stupid hamstring injury. Sucks for them. Seemed like the best chance they ever had.
I've seen CP0 choke too many times in the playoffs to assume he wouldn't have choked in Games 6 or 7. And I think the ref excuse is being overused. Frauden not getting all his usual flop calls is a good thing. It's not the Warriors' fault that Frauden still doesn't have any other dimensions to his game when he's not getting the bogus whistles. The refs didn't make the Rockets brick a million threes in a row either.

The Rockets benefitted from injuries too, btw. The Jazz series would have been a lot different if Utah's guards had all stayed healthy.

[Russ]

5-2. Game, set, match.

[Joseph Kony]

Other than CP3 asking to be traded to Houston because the Clippers were trash, Houston hasnt really attracted a big FA. That Ryan Anderson contract is awful. and their offense is gimmicky. need to give them a few more years of success before making this proclamation tbh. we've only been garbage for 1 year

[tholdren]

Don't feed the trolls.

Yes

[tbdog]

It was Rockettes chance this year. They were on a mission, with Beard and Cliff having lots to prove, Kawhard out and the Dubs vulnerable. But you can't be on a mission every year, specially after losing like that.

They (Morey) sacrificed core players and took a risk on an injury riddled, back end of his prime CP3 that cynically backfired the hard way. Now they're facing another dilemma on resigning Paul for another 5 years and whatever crazy money his agent asks, or letting him go and having nothing to show for their trade.

Add a few role players asking soon for a bigger payday, and aging roster and no real assets (+ that terrible Ryno contrat) and you can see them getting back in the pack soon. Even Harden getting traded or asking to be.

Morey was very close to get his ass moved the last couple of years. Another empty year and he could be gone next summer.

They have one more shot if they resign their free agents. After that, the tax bill will get nasty. They might offload Anderson contract following next season for another bloated disgruntled talent. By that stage, CP3 & Ariza, for example, could be damaged. Their window is still open though.

[tbdog]

You dont think the Rockets wouldve won if they had a healthy CP3 or if the refs didn't blatantly favor the warriors? Admittedly I was cheering against the Rockets but game 7 was obvious and CP3 was balling until of course again a stupid hamstring injury. Sucks for them. Seemed like the best chance they ever had.

That's the Warriors luck though. They were down 2-1 when Conley went down. They were on the verge of losing game 1 of the finals when Irving broke his knee cap. That first title, they didn't play a single healthy side. We know what happened last season with Leonard, Parker and Lee, but again these playoffs, down 3-2 and CP3 goes down.

[ElNono]

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/masonry/000/469/586/34b.jpg

[tholdren]

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/masonry/000/469/586/34b.jpg

You really will get 120k. Standing ovation.

[Slippy]

Had their players stopped shooting all those 3s and actually attacked the hoop, they might be playing tomorrow night.....but carry on..

Thats what they did game 4 & 5. Plus contained the warriors outside game. Dub did the same in turn to the rockets game 6 & moreso in game 7. The only guy that took it inside was Gordon who basically had a layup drill against dubs. Obviously having paul out hurt the rockets & Harden as leader was terrible.

The point is you gotta have a counter going inside when your outside shots fail.

[Slippy]

Sorry but after watching Frauden quit last year against the Spurs in the PO's
I'd have traded him ASAP,a loser always... sorry thems the facts
He quit on his teammates in game 7 of this series too. Tried to do much on offense alone & was back to being lazy on d.

[apalisoc_9]

Why are people so offended?

Clearly the rockets organization have beem better this year by a decent margin

[cool cat]

Why are people so offended?

Clearly the rockets organization have beem better this year by a decent margin

Went from being better in the "modern era" to just "this year". Don't hurt yourself moving them goalposts.

[Clipper Nation]

Why are people so offended?

Clearly the rockets organization have beem better this year by a decent margin

I just don't agree that the Rockets are the better organization these days, tbh. The Spurs are obsessed with loyalty to culture scrubs, the Rockets are obsessed with getting as many fake "stars" as possible on their roster. Both teams have handed out bad contracts. Both teams have had recent seasons ruined by dysfunction: the Spurs this year with the Kawhi situation, the Rockets in 2015-16 when they were a complete mess on and off the court and barely made the playoffs. The main difference is that the Spurs have won a ring this decade and the Rockets haven't.

[ducks]

The real question which city has the hottest babes

[tholdren]

The real question which city has the hottest babes

Tijuana

[J_Paco]

The rockets lost paul. They were on the way to winning a ring.

The fact of the matter is that the rockets know modern culture. The spurs dont.

You can shove that hypothetical bullshit up your ass. Fact remains the Spurs have won and competed in the Finals during the "modern era," while Daryl Morey, James Harden and D'Antoni haven't even been to one (together).

So much for all that "success," they are the western conference Indiana Pacers (circa '10 - 14).

[rjv]

another thing about the rockets is that they really aren't all that exciting to watch. the constant iso of harden where he dribbles for 10 seconds and then takes a step back three is pretty awful basketball and any playoff game where a team misses 27 threes in a row is just abhorrent.

[John B]

Ugly basketball. But had they attacked the basket more instead of chucking 3’s they had a better chance. Oh if they played defense too. But that’s not D’Antoni bball. He likes to trade baskets with the best offensive team. Dumb.

[kaji157]

Their culture and philosophy is conducive to consistent winning the in the modern era.

- Happy Superstars
- Lots of players that can shoot 3s
- Lots of players that can defend and 3.

Their philisophy is modern. Its never about corporate. Its about the players and winning.

Your whole post is denied by your last phrase. Our team has had better results than that administration no matter which time span you choose other than last year. We have been winning more than the rockets for the last 20, 15, 10, 5, 4, 3 or 2 years. With te only exception being this year.
You'd better shut the fuck up and hope for your boy to become a men and face that he acted like a little bitch.

[apalisoc_9]

Why are patfo fans using the past to evaluate the current situation of both organizations. Thats so stupid.

[K...]

This is a troll thread and op is free to be a fan of any team, but the Spurs would have no doubt loved to have harden Paul and capella. You can't win and get good draft picks, and the Spurs manuevered to get free agent space but had no successes. Other than buying strippers and casting aside that mute traitorous fucker who purports to be our best player, causes drama and doesn't recruit better players, what more could the Spurs do?

[DPG21920]

Why are patfo fans using the past to evaluate the current situation of both organizations. Thats so stupid.

You used the past though, albeit recent past, then shifted to just this year. Even just this year SA had Kawhi get hurt so it’s skewed.

[apalisoc_9]

You used the past though, albeit recent past, then shifted to just this year. Even just this year SA had Kawhi get hurt so it’s skewed.

This whole kawhi fiasco is also part of the PATFO incompetence. He hasnt been injured for months now. The PATFO have very unrealistic expectaations from their players. Thats part of their incompetence.

[Poolboy5623]

Why are patfo fans using the past to evaluate the current situation of both organizations. Thats so stupid.

Now you’re the voice of reason on what’s stupid and what isn’t? Just stop already.

[ducks]

This whole kawhi fiasco is also part of the PATFO incompetence. He hasnt been injured for months now. The PATFO have very unrealistic expectaations from their players. Thats part of their incompetence.

leonard was in mvp discussion talk by media not spurs this year

[Arcadian]

It's easy to say this now, right after the Spurs' biggest dumpster-fire season since pre-Duncan.

The question is: How will they recover?

That is how I will evaluate the organization.

[pad300]

This whole kawhi fiasco is also part of the PATFO incompetence. He hasnt been injured for months now. The PATFO have very unrealistic expectaations from their players. Thats part of their incompetence.

Are you saying he has been doing a medical holdout??? I thought you were on Kawhi's side of this question. You think we should give a supermax to a guy who has quit on the team and his team-mates? Does this not suggest what is called "Character concerns"" to you?

PS. Expecting a guy who "hasn't been injured for months now" to show up and play when he's being paid $19 Million is "very unrealistic expectations"?

[Phenomanul]

It's easy to say this now, right after the Spurs' biggest dumpster-fire season since pre-Duncan.

The question is: How will they recover?

That is how I will evaluate the organization.

This

[Wu36]

So support the rockets aunt fucker.

[tholdren]

It's easy to say this now, right after the Spurs' biggest dumpster-fire season since pre-Duncan.

The question is: How will they recover?

That is how I will evaluate the organization.

Dump leonard. Cant let inmates run asylum