US and Saudi genocide in Yemen. 18 million in danger of starvation

[hater]

Saudi and US coalition want to attack last port in Yemen. If they do that would cut Yemen last lifeline to food and medical supplies. Saudi already blockading this port and slowing down food traffic which has already been called out by UN

If they attack and destroy of take over the port. Millions of yemenis will die

:wow if even part of this happens it would be worst genocide in history :wow

Howcome no US mainstream media reporting on this????

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[Pavlov]

Saudi and US coalition want to attack last port in Yemen. If they do that would cut Yemen last lifeline to food and medical supplies. Saudi already blockading this port and slowing down food traffic which has already been called out by UN

If they attack and destroy of take over the port. Millions of yemenis will die

:wow if even part of this happens it would be worst genocide in history :wow

Howcome no US mainstream media reporting on this????

1004392605331812354Why is Trump starving all those people, hater?

[hater]

U.N. urges Saudi-led coalition to speed Yemen imports, avoid starvation

GENEVA (Reuters) - The United Nations aid chief urged the Saudi-led military coalition that controls Yemen’s ports to expedite imports of food and fuel supplies, warning that a further 10 million Yemenis could face starvation by year-end.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-yemen-security-un/u-n-urges-saudi-led-coalition-to-speed-yemen-imports-avoid-starvation-idUSKCN1IQ19C

[RandomGuy]

Saudi and US coalition want to attack last port in Yemen. If they do that would cut Yemen last lifeline to food and medical supplies. Saudi already blockading this port and slowing down food traffic which has already been called out by UN

If they attack and destroy of take over the port. Millions of yemenis will die

:wow if even part of this happens it would be worst genocide in history :wow

Howcome no US mainstream media reporting on this????

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Trump's America does not care about brown people. Sorry, and that is very genuine.

We should.

[hater]

Yemen disaster has been going on for years

This blood will be on all pur hands including Dumbo Donald and Obomba

Good job making this a partisan issue bloodthirsty animals

[Pavlov]

Yemen disaster has been going on for years

This blood will be on all pur hands including Dumbo Donald and Obomba

Good job making this a partisan issue bloodthirsty animalsYou didn't answer the question:

Why is Trump starving people?

[hater]

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[ducks]

Saudi and US coalition want to attack last port in Yemen. If they do that would cut Yemen last lifeline to food and medical supplies. Saudi already blockading this port and slowing down food traffic which has already been called out by UN

If they attack and destroy of take over the port. Millions of yemenis will die

:wow if even part of this happens it would be worst genocide in history :wow

Howcome no US mainstream media reporting on this????

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quick bring them into the usa
make them feeed them !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they can take care of everything
forget about the people that paid into the gov
those people need it not the people that are working and paying into it

[ducks]

U.N. urges Saudi-led coalition to speed Yemen imports, avoid starvation

GENEVA (Reuters) - The United Nations aid chief urged the Saudi-led military coalition that controls Yemen’s ports to expedite imports of food and fuel supplies, warning that a further 10 million Yemenis could face starvation by year-end.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-yemen-security-un/u-n-urges-saudi-led-coalition-to-speed-yemen-imports-avoid-starvation-idUSKCN1IQ19C LOL at the un doing anything except take money

[hater]

Its a dak dark day in humanity folks :wow

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[hater]

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[Pavlov]

Its a dak dark day in humanity folks :wow

1004362272775462913Well, Trump wants them dead -- what are you gonna do?

[hater]

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[hater]

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[hater]

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[boutons_deux]

Trump's America does not care about brown people. Sorry, and that is very genuine.

We should.

Brown AND Muslim.

Murdering a few million Muslims would please Trash's hate-sodden Christian supremacist evangelical End Timer base.

Trash has already done nothing as Sunni Saudi's slaughtered 10Ks of Yemenis.

SA Oil and $10Bs Arm Purchases Speak, USA shuts up.

Shiite Iran supports its ally Yemen, so Sunni SA destroys it, with USA's silent compliance.

[koriwhat]

Brown AND Muslim.

Murdering a few million Muslims would please Trash's hate-sodden Christian supremacist evangelical End Timer base.

Trash has already done nothing as Sunni Saudi's slaughtered 10Ks of Yemenis.

SA Oil and $10Bs Arm Purchases Speak, USA shuts up.

Shiite Iran supports its ally Yemen, so Sunni SA destroys it, with USA's silent compliance.

delusions of grandeur thinking you're right.

[Chucho]

Brown AND Muslim.

Murdering a few million Muslims would please Trash's hate-sodden Christian supremacist evangelical End Timer base.

Trash has already done nothing as Sunni Saudi's slaughtered 10Ks of Yemenis.

SA Oil and $10Bs Arm Purchases Speak, USA shuts up.

Shiite Iran supports its ally Yemen, so Sunni SA destroys it, with USA's silent compliance.


So...the last three Administrations haven't been stacking corpses over seas...right.

[hater]

quick bring them into the usa
make them feeed them !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they can take care of everything
forget about the people that paid into the gov
those people need it not the people that are working and paying into it


No need

Stopping shipments pf weapons to saudi would immensely increasy their quality of living

[hater]

Oh and guess who refuels and maintains the shiny Saudi jets? Yeah. We do.

[hater]

Our hands will be soaked in Yemeni civilian blood if we do this :wow

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[hater]

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[pgardn]

Yemen disaster has been going on for years

This blood will be on all pur hands including Dumbo Donald and Obomba

Good job making this a partisan issue bloodthirsty animals

Yes it started with the ottomans and British fighting over it.
Led to a British protectorate which then turned Marxist, begin starvation. Then a brutal kleptocracy, that got involved with the Iranians which then led to Saudis intervening.

But you look at the last 10 seconds of history because it suits your small mind and small distorted world...

[pgardn]

And your fake love of humanity is hilarious.
Yet sad.

[Winehole23]

the last ten seconds of history, as you refer to it, are fairly dramatic.

hater is right that the US is complicit in the famine in Yemen.

[pgardn]

the last ten seconds of history, as you refer to it, are fairly dramatic.

hater is right that the US is complicit in the famine in Yemen.

This nation has been on the cliffs edge for many years.
We are one of many nations and groups that have put this as inevitable.
Trump did not take care Puerto Rico and Hater does not believe in the UN so what does HE expect. Trump is his man, Obama left him with this teetering nation but WE voted to opt out of starting or helping in foreign problems, sorta...

MAGA.

[Chucho]

Poor Yemen...they deserve better. They went from being an unknown country used as a throwaway joke in Night at the Roxbury to the Starvin Marvin Plantation. Team Murica;World Police need to fix this...

[Winehole23]

we can't fix it, but we could rein in (or at least stop helping) the country most responsible for it: Saudi Arabia

[Winehole23]

This is the last, most important element of the Ireland/Biafra/Bengal/Yemen strategy: a collusive silence from the media. Sure, it’ll be noted decades later. Books and articles will be devoted to explaining or justifying it (mostly “justifying” because powerful states tend to stay powerful, and don’t want their grandfathers’ crimes exposed).

And there’ll be a whole new set of career opportunities, for the grandkids of the journalists who are blocking the Yemen horror from their consciousness right now, in publishing scholarly articles on the complex quandaries that stopped their ancestors from seeing or smelling the corpses — when really (as I discovered when I once tried to research literary reactions to the Irish Famine) it was simple swinishness, generation after generation.http://exiledonline.com/the-war-nerd-anglo-american-media-complicity-in-yemens-genocide/

[boutons_deux]

"The French Doctors" get bombed, again

Yemen: Airstrike Hits Doctors Without Borders Cholera Treatment Center in Abs

https://www.commondreams.org/newswire/2018/06/11/yemen-airstrike-hits-doctors-without-borders-cholera-treatment-center-abs

[Spurtacular]

You didn't answer the question:

Why is Trump starving people?

:lmao Caught sperm shielding for Obama/Hillary again.

[Pavlov]

:lmao Caught sperm shielding for Obama/Hillary again.Maybe you can answer the question:

Why is Trump starving people?

[hater]

USA has approvd the genocide to commence today :wow

All UN personnel abandoning the Yemeni port

It is indeed a dark day in American history and human history :pctoss

[hater]

It would be easy for the Trump administration to stop the UAE attack. U.S. special forces are on the ground in Yemen working closely with UAE forces. U.S. planes are refueling the Saudi and UAE bombers. U.S. intelligence is used in the targeting process. The U.S. supplies the bombs. Without U.S. air-to-air refueling there would be no air-support for the UAE fighters on the ground. They would be unable to launch their attack.

[hater]

US-UAE-Saudi forces attacking volunteer organizations to speed up their exits so they fan obliterate the port city qnd its 600,000+ civilians :wow

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[hater]

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[hater]

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Looks like the houtis will fight to the very end

This is going to be a disaster that was seen coming from miles but US and western allies did nothing to advert it

[Winehole23]

This is going to be a disaster that was seen coming from miles but US and western allies did nothing to [avert] itthat is accurate

[pgardn]

If the Russians, Chinese, US, wanted to stop this right now and save millions of people it could be done period.

Russia tells Iran to stand their proxies down or else. US tells Saudis to shut down all troops and get your planes down or they are taken out. Chinese given the honor of leading a massive humanitarian effort with the US and Russia because it’s safe to go in. All 3 countries Clear the airspace, drop troops and water-food. It would not save all, but it could be done.

Massive effort now, who’s gonna lead?

Go...

[Winehole23]

the Houthis are not Iranian proxies, they're indigenous to Yemen.

the notion that Russia could tell Iran to tell the Houthis what to do and that would be the end of all suffering in Yemen, is not credible.

[pgardn]

the Houthis are not Iranian proxies, they're indigenous to Yemen.

the notion that Russia could tell Iran to tell the Houthis what to do and that would be the end of all suffering in Yemen, is not credible.

You have to have money to have this long a run.
Who backs the Houthis?

Indeginous people have fought wars for outside powers throughout history.

[pgardn]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-yemen-security-un/u-n-council-mulls-condemning-iran-over-yemens-houthis-getting-missiles-idUSKCN1G10W4

Lotta disagreement here Winehole.
I’m sure you have counters to this and a bunch of other stuff along the same vein.
I take Iran’s involvement as a yes. Shia/Sunni thing yet again.

[Winehole23]

no one said said Iran wasn't involved, but your characterization of the Houthis as mere proxies of Iran is either propaganda or ignorant.

[Winehole23]

the Houthis have their own fight, the Iranians are an instrumentality

[Winehole23]

but sure, blame the Saudi instigated, US and UAE abetted, blockade, bombings and famine on powers only indirectly involved.

weak!

[pgardn]

the Houthis have their own fight, the Iranians are an instrumentality

Oh.

Instrumentality...

This is what we call it when Shia Iran supplies money and arms... Instrumentality...
The Shia Sunni conflict has no relevance in this conflict? I’m not defending the Saudis or the US. If all you and Hater want to concentrate on is now instead of the process that led to this, ok.

What I said before, and unprecedented agreement from major WORLD players could stop this.
Good luck with Hater’s man,Trump, to start the process.

[hater]

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Noone is listening sadly. Sauds have plan to take the port and starve Houti territory where 10 million live and are already statving.

Sauds are basically creating a famine and will make the casualties in Iraq look like a birthday cake

It is a dark dark days in human history. Genocide in the making and no government doing anything about it.

[hater]

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[Winehole23]

unprecedented agreement from major WORLD players could stop this. the US could stop this, but we won't

[hater]

Wondr how this famine and genocide will stack up in history among man made famines

I know China, Russia and other man made famines were brutal and killed millions. But if 18 million or say 10 million are killed off, top 10 worst genocides in history?
Our name will forever be etched as authors :pctoss

[pgardn]

the US could stop this, but we won't

We don't dictate what happens inside other countries just like Russia and China. We just back countries who do.

MAGA

We voted for Trump, he made it pretty clear he likes the idea of staying out of others mess. So we will characterize this as a Sunni/Shia mess (which it is in basis) that we don't need to be involved in and invoke Black Hawk down. We saved a bunch of Yazidis on a mountain in Iraq for no particular military advantage and was much easier than this because people have already starved in this horrible mess. But that was Obama.

No more Globalism and let's MAGA. Poof, it's all forgiven and forgotten.

Our relationship with Saudi has always been rotten to the core. From way back. But the got Gold faucets now that Trump has visited and he likes authoritarian governments so Saudi fits as a good friend.

And no, we need international help on this and it could happen very quicky. You can't just stop Saudi. You got to go in on the ground and distribute food etc.... to those that can actually be saved. We lose American lives without full security.... bad, bad, look... We need cooperation from all involved and can help. Get China and Russian volunteers on the ground as well.

[Chris]

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[Winehole23]

Again and again over the past two years, a military coalition led by Saudi Arabia and backed by the United States has claimed it won decisive victories that drove al-Qaida militants from their strongholds across Yemen and shattered their ability to attack the West.


Here’s what the victors did not disclose: many of their conquests came without firing a shot.


That’s because the coalition cut secret deals with al-Qaida fighters, paying some to leave key cities and towns and letting others retreat with weapons, equipment and wads of looted cash, an investigation by The Associated Press has found. Hundreds more were recruited to join the coalition itself.
https://www.apnews.com/f38788a561d74ca78c77cb43612d50da

[Winehole23]

“Elements of the U.S. military are clearly aware that much of what the U.S. is doing in Yemen is aiding AQAP and there is much angst about that,” said Michael Horton, a fellow at the Jamestown Foundation, a U.S. analysis group that tracks terrorism.


“However, supporting the UAE and the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia against what the U.S. views as Iranian expansionism takes priority over battling AQAP and even stabilizing Yemen,” Horton said.

[hater]

Saudi and american animals obliterate a bus with schoolchildren

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[Winehole23]

29 children died


"[The air strikes] conformed to international and humanitarian laws," a statement quoting coalition spokesman Colonel Turki al-Malki said.https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/08/yemen-dozens-children-killed-wounded-school-bus-attack-180809085843444.html

[Winehole23]

The war has claimed more than 13,500 lives (http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=57052#.WgCuhWJSxhA), with more than 900,000 (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-41923769) suffering from cholera. Roughly 20 million (https://www.vox.com/world/2017/11/6/16613088/saudi-arabia-princes-arrested-mohammed-bin-salman) Yemenis need humanitarian assistance to meet basic needs — including food and water — out of a prewar population of 28 million.https://www.vox.com/2018/8/9/17671386/yemen-airstrikes-saudi-arabia-coalition-pentagon

[pgardn]

Ask Canada to call them out because we are not.

I bet that goes over well...

[Winehole23]

fuck lip service.

the US and the UK should withdraw assistance to the KSA --which won't happen either.

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

more documentation of the US provenance of Yemeni civilian deaths:

https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2018/09/world/yemen-airstrikes-intl/index.html

[Winehole23]

Larison says Pompeo lied to Congress on behalf of the KSA and the UAE to preserve arms sales:


Mike Pompeo’s certification earlier this month that the Saudi coalition was working to reduce harm to civilians in Yemen was an obvious sham (https://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/the-trump-administration-is-lying-to-congress-about-yemen/). According to a new report (https://www.wsj.com/articles/top-u-s-diplomat-backed-continuing-support-for-saudi-war-in-yemen-over-objections-of-staff-1537441200) in The Wall Street Journal, Pompeo made the decision to lie (https://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/the-trump-administration-is-lying-to-congress-about-yemen/) for the Saudis and Emiratis because he feared it would hurt arms sales:



Mr. Pompeo overruled concerns from most of the State Department specialists involved in the debate who were worried about the rising civilian death toll in Yemen. Those who objected included specialists in the region and in military affairs. He sided with his legislative affairs team after they argued that suspending support could undercut plans to sell more than 120,000 precision-guided missiles to Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, according to a classified State Department memo and people familiar with the debate.
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/pompeo-lied-to-congress-about-yemen-to-protect-arms-sales/

[hater]

Pompeo is a stain on the human history tale. Hes basically a leech that developed through a cancer tumor of society. The world will be a better place once this fat fucking piece of shit dies. Just like Mccain.

They will fry in hell like chicharron cooked for eternity

[Winehole23]

don't sugarcoat it, tell us what you really mean

[Winehole23]

Saudi Barbaria


Attacks on food markets like this one are part of the coalition’s systematic campaign to target and destroy Yemen’s food production and distribution. The coalition has made a regular practice of targeting farms, fishing boats, and marketplaces as part of an effort to deprive an already malnourished population of food. There is no possible justification for targeting civilians as they were trying to obtain food from a local market. https://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/saudi-coalition-massacre-kills-21-at-a-market-in-yemen/

[hater]

Mu sauces tell me Saudi puppet Yemeni president has been obliterated

Them Houtis are no joke tbqh

https://twitter.com/t_gelder44/status/1057315520725188608?s=21

[pgardn]

Mu sauces tell me Saudi puppet Yemeni president has been obliterated

Them Houtis are no joke tbqh

https://twitter.com/t_gelder44/status/1057315520725188608?s=21

They have already fired missiles at Riyhad, they are quite capable. They have Iranian arms and continue to get them. It’s perfect for a big “fat” slaughter. It surprises you they are able to kill important people in this conflict? People act like this is a clear one sided slaughter. The Houthis would be gone if it was. At least the civilians would know who to bow to if one group took over. It’s better than starving.

[hater]

https://twitter.com/benparker140/status/1057592748893761537?s=21

[hater]

https://twitter.com/ortxcentraltx/status/1063819707017584641?s=21

[Winehole23]

foul


stale cup of tea, look at the timestamp

[hater]

Nov 14, 2018 is stale???

[hater]

Trump officially washes his hands on he matter. :lol so much for hope and change :lol

Just released a memo. Doesnt give a shit who ordered the killing he is all in on Saud

https://twitter.com/a_1_0_2/status/1064938105227157505?s=20

[in2deep]

:lol trump

but, but, but, look... Iran

[pgardn]

The victory over N. Korea is far more important.

[hater]

https://twitter.com/ap/status/1065154733026013184?s=21

[hater]

https://twitter.com/chrismurphyct/status/1063485538081128449?s=21

[hater]

https://twitter.com/studioloraine/status/1065259633084911616?s=21

[hater]

https://twitter.com/middleeasteye/status/1063158462765547521?s=21

[Winehole23]

Either people are so numb to atrocity that the magnitude of famine in Yemen fails to move them, or the "non-white" status of Yemenis excludes them from polite solicitude.

Or both.

[hater]

Either people are so numb to atrocity that the magnitude of famine in Yemen fails to move them, or the "non-white" status of Yemenis excludes them from polite solicitude.

Or both.

I think the number of victims and magnitude is counterproductive tbqh

people just look at you stary eyed for a few minutes and go back to checking their facebook likes tbqh

on the other hand 'kashogi omg, kashogi. let's impeach'

as I said best thing might be for aliens to come and eliminate Mother Earth's parasites

[Spurs Homer]

We are the biggest shithole on the planet.

We will give thanks tomorrow that the 1% got a nice tax break though!

[pgardn]

I think the number of victims and magnitude is counterproductive tbqh

people just look at you stary eyed for a few minutes and go back to checking their facebook likes tbqh

on the other hand 'kashogi omg, kashogi. let's impeach'

as I said best thing might be for aliens to come and eliminate Mother Earth's parasites

The Assad gassing apologist is NOT the guy to be giving out this horrific story.

BTW 85,000 is a conservative estimate.
The potential to get much worse lies ahead. In fact it’s probably already a given.

[SnakeBoy]

Either people are so numb to atrocity that the magnitude of famine in Yemen fails to move them, or the "non-white" status of Yemenis excludes them from polite solicitude.

Or both.

What's your solution to Yemen?

[in2deep]

US stops cease fire resolution. They are afraid it will anger Saudi:

Washington (CNN)The US has "slammed the brakes on" a United Nations Security Council resolution calling for a limited ceasefire and increased humanitarian aid in Yemen over concerns about angering Saudi Arabia, two sources tell CNN.


One source familiar with the negotiations over the resolution tells CNN the US "has slammed the brakes on," saying that "we can't support a resolution at the moment."



The White House declined to comment, referring queries about the resolution to the US Mission to the United Nations. Officials there also refused to comment.


The reason for the delay continues to be a White House worry about angering Saudi Arabia, which strongly opposes the resolution, multiple sources say. CNN reported earlier this month that the Saudi crown prince, Mohammed bin Salman, "threw a fit" when presented with an early draft of the document, leading to a delay and further discussions among Western allies on the matter.

[boutons_deux]

For Trash/Repugs/BigOil, life is cheap and expendable (except when suckering pro-birth so-called hater Christians), cheaper than highly profitable oil

[pgardn]

Trump officially washes his hands on he matter. :lol so much for hope and change :lol

Just released a memo. Doesnt give a shit who ordered the killing he is all in on Saud



You were expecting some sort of humanitarian hope and change ?

Your heroes are Putin and Assad... spice the dish with hypocrisy and a dash of irony

[in2deep]

What's your solution to Yemen?

Stop bombing civilians and allow food and aid to get into the ports. At the very least stop selling arms to saudi and stop helping them with bombing targetting.

but US just blocked any UN resolution attempting this.

saudi bitches

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

Senate votes 57-38 to end US military assistance in Yemen; the War Powers resolution will be DOA in the House.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/senate-prepares-vote-to-curtail-us-support-for-saudi-led-military-effort-in-yemen/2018/12/13/cf934a96-fed7-11e8-862a-b6a6f3ce8199_story.html

[Winehole23]

it was historic; it was the first time the US Congress has taken this action.

[Spurs Homer]

Some good - no GREAT - news for a change

[CitizenDwayne]

Great news. Suck a dick, trump!

[Winehole23]

Counterfactual:

were the House to follow suit would Trump challenge?

if so, who would win and why?

[Winehole23]

first ever war powers resolution hits the President's desk.

lol Breitbart


A bipartisan group of lawmakers has banded together, urging President Donald Trump to sign into law the historic War Powers Resolution that hit his desk on Thursday and reject a push from globalist forces for him to veto it.

The Democrat-led House of Representatives on Thursday joined the GOP-led U.S. Senate in passing a War Powers Resolution for the first time in the nation’s history on the U.S. role in backing Saudi Arabia’s coalition in Yemen’s civil war, sending a War Powers Resolution to the desk of a president.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/04/04/bipartisan-group-urges-trump-to-reject-globalists-sign-historic-war-powers-resolution-ending-u-s-role-in-saudi-led-yemen-war/

[Winehole23]

Trump to sidestep Congress to sell arms to the world's leading sponsor of terror, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

This will prolong the suffering of Yemen and will lead directly to more civilian deaths.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-to-sidestep-congress-to-clear-arms-deals-benefitting-saudi-arabia-uae/2019/05/24/367f4990-7e4d-11e9-a5b3-34f3edf1351e_story.html

[Winehole23]

Typically, the Trump adminstration hasn't said what the emergency is, or what legal rationale it is relying upon to preempt Congressional review.

[Winehole23]

Ah, here it is:

https://www.state.gov/emergency-notification-of-arms-sales-to-jordan-the-united-arab-emirates-and-saudi-arabia/

[Winehole23]

"To deter Iranian aggreassion...on a one time basis."

What horse pucky.

[Winehole23]

This is in the face of the first ever War Powers resolution to pass Congress. Contempt for democratic institutions is a Trump calling card.

[pgardn]

Dude is totally wacked

Who in the Republican Party has the guts to tell the idiot to back down?

[Winehole23]

Over 90,000 dead in Yemen not including starvation and cholera. The US has their blood on its hands.


(Warning: pic of dead bodies)

https://twitter.com/joshua_landis/status/1142491989683900417?s=19

[apalisoc_9]

Houthis are scam.

But the way saudis are dealing with them is cowardice in nature. They have the green light to invade and take this to the ground.

But they doing the classic israeli, American strategy

[Winehole23]

Direct US-Houthi negotiations.

Saudi face-planted, tbh. Couldn't get it done in Yemen with US/Brit military help. Caused a historic famine. Looks weak, tbh.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/09/talks-houthis-bid-yemen-war-official-190905133023150.html

[TheGreatYacht]

Direct US-Houthi negotiations.

Saudi face-planted, tbh. Couldn't get it done in Yemen with US/Brit military help. Caused a historic famine. Looks weak, tbh.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/09/talks-houthis-bid-yemen-war-official-190905133023150.html

Most importantly, Trump vetoed a bipartisan bill that would have stopped selling weapons to the Saudi head choppers. Trump supporters nowhere to be found on this issue.

Trump = MISAGA = Make Israel & Saudi Arabia Great Again

[Winehole23]

Most importantly, Trump vetoed a bipartisan bill that would have stopped selling weapons to the Saudi head choppers. Trump supporters nowhere to be found on this issue.Tbh, Obama stans didn't -- and don't -- seem to care very much either.

[TheGreatYacht]

Tbh, Obama stans didn't -- and don't -- seem to care very much either.

Of course not. All presidents are Zionist puppets. That's why I didn't vote for Hillary or Trump.

[hater]

:lmao pompeass forced to negotiate surrender with Houthis :lmao

We are such a disgrace of a superpower :lol

[boutons_deux]

The MIC is another section of fucked USA that is unstoppable, has purchased more than enough politicians to whatever it wants.

[TheGreatYacht]

:lmao pompeass forced to negotiate surrender with Houthis :lmao

We are such a disgrace of a superpower :lol

Brute force, lies and deception. China is beating us building infrastructures around the world instead of using drone strikes to kill civilians.

[in2deep]

:lmao pompeass forced to negotiate surrender with Houthis :lmao

We are such a disgrace of a superpower :lol

have we really won ANY war since WWII?

- Korean war was a tie
- Vietnam was an asskicking for us
- Afghanistan is the longest war and probably biggest failure. we are negotiating withdrawal with Taliban
- Iraq overall was a failure, they want us out and we turned Iraq into friends with Iran our enemy
- Libya was a complete mess, our ambassador got killed and created ISIS
- We lost in Syria badly
- Yemen was an utter failure at the hands of sandal wearing Houthis


the USA is a powerful nation but terrible at the art of war. Now India, China, Russia and maybe even Iran have missiles that have turned our most powerful weapon, the aircraft carriers into floating coffins

what should we be proud of? Panama? Granada?

[hater]

have we really won ANY war since WWII?

- Korean war was a tie
- Vietnam was an asskicking for us
- Afghanistan is the longest war and probably biggest failure. we are negotiating withdrawal with Taliban
- Iraq overall was a failure, they want us out and we turned Iraq into friends with Iran our enemy
- Libya was a complete mess, our ambassador got killed and created ISIS
- We lost in Syria badly
- Yemen was an utter failure at the hands of sandal wearing Houthis


the USA is a powerful nation but terrible at the art of war. Now India, China, Russia and maybe even Iran have missiles that have turned our most powerful weapon, the aircraft carriers into floating coffins

what should we be proud of? Panama? Granada?

a war will never be truly won with a bloated, corrupt, badly managed, for hire and profit army. The Saudis are the extreme of that and got obliterated by the sandal army.

USA army is similar to Saudi army just not as pathetic. yet

[Winehole23]

Of course not. All presidents are Zionist puppets. That's why I didn't vote for Hillary or Trump.Obviously, the choos are pulling the strings of the tendentially worldwide ZOG.

[Winehole23]

2/3 of Yemen faces starvation.

US taxes and the US goverment did this, in part.

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[boutons_deux]

Destruction, Killing, for Capitalism's profits, defines what America is and always has been

[Winehole23]

If Biden can't reign in the KSA, the least he can do is stop helping them starve Yemen. Congress voted in 2019 to cease US aid, but Trump vetoed it.


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[Winehole23]

Like the designation of Cuba as a state sponsor of terror, designating Houthis terrorists was something Trump did on his way out the door.


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[hater]

2/3 of Yemen faces starvation.

US taxes and the US goverment did this, in part.

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This could be a bigger American war crime than Iraq, Afghanistan and Lybia combined

[Winehole23]

This could be a bigger American war crime than Iraq, Afghanistan and Lybia combinedDunno about that, but it would be hard to overstate how bad things are in Yemen right now.

[Winehole23]

more continuity with Trump and Obama

Joe Biden is no peacenik

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[boutons_deux]

US is a cheap whore to Saudi oil

[Winehole23]

This is roughly the same thing Pompeo said a couple years back.

Just curious, legally speaking, is the KSA technically a US ally?


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FKyI4llXwAQs8KJ?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Winehole23]

Their blood, our hands

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[koriwhat]

Their blood, our hands

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That's what's funny when people gripe about the oligarchs in Russia but sit back while our own in Silicon Valley rip our nation apart. SMDH...

Btw fuck the OP though and you propping up a Leninist. Your true colors are finally showing and it's blood red. :vomit:

[pgardn]

Not a word about Iran and the Houthi rebels...

In this case, it takes two to tango to kill this many people.

[SnakeBoy]

The fun and famine in the ME has yet to begin.

[diego]

Not a word about Iran and the Houthi rebels...

In this case, it takes two to tango to kill this many people.

so whats the threshold, how many people have to die in order for the other side's actions to justify your crimes?

you're very good at seeing other people's faults but fail to see your own.





A 2014 study of drone strike casualties in Pakistan and Yemen by Reprieve also found that as many as 1,147 people may have been killed during attempts to assassinate just 41 men.

and RG wants to talk about precision weapons


have we really won ANY war since WWII?

- Korean war was a tie
- Vietnam was an asskicking for us
- Afghanistan is the longest war and probably biggest failure. we are negotiating withdrawal with Taliban
- Iraq overall was a failure, they want us out and we turned Iraq into friends with Iran our enemy
- Libya was a complete mess, our ambassador got killed and created ISIS
- We lost in Syria badly
- Yemen was an utter failure at the hands of sandal wearing Houthis


the USA is a powerful nation but terrible at the art of war. Now India, China, Russia and maybe even Iran have missiles that have turned our most powerful weapon, the aircraft carriers into floating coffins

what should we be proud of? Panama? Granada?

the us doesnt win wars because that would be bad business for them, need to maintain that ROI, hell its like hollywood cheaper to do remakes than to invent new stories...

[pgardn]

so whats the threshold, how many people have to die in order for the other side's actions to justify your crimes?

you're very good at seeing other people's faults but fail to see your own.

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Where did I say the US has no fault in this.
I said it takes TWO, as in two sides, to cause shit like this to happen and that is what has happened.
If you have read this thread you would think only the US was at fault in this whole thing by the articles, and that is not true.
Iran has played a significant role in causing this problem to stay relevant and is also responsible for the deaths of many people.

[DMC]

so whats the threshold, how many people have to die in order for the other side's actions to justify your crimes?

you're very good at seeing other people's faults but fail to see your own.






and RG wants to talk about precision weapons



the us doesnt win wars because that would be bad business for them, need to maintain that ROI, hell its like hollywood cheaper to do remakes than to invent new stories...

He got you there, pee pee.

[Thread]

so whats the threshold, how many people have to die in order for the other side's actions to justify your crimes?

you're very good at seeing other people's faults but fail to see your own.






and RG wants to talk about precision weapons



the us doesnt win wars because that would be bad business for them, need to maintain that ROI, hell its like hollywood cheaper to do remakes than to invent new stories...

Don diego, fuego!!!

[DMC]

Where did I say the US has no fault in this.
I said it takes TWO, as in two sides, to cause shit like this to happen and that is what has happened.
If you have read this thread you would think only the US was at fault in this whole thing by the articles, and that is not true.
Iran has played a significant role in causing this problem to stay relevant and is also responsible for the deaths of many people.

"both sides", eh pee pee?

[pgardn]

He got you there, pee pee.

Got me...
Like a child "he got me."

Iran funded and gave weapons to Houthi rebels who killed many, many people in Yemen.
To ask me when its enough is absolutely ludicrous. Like Im supposed to know when both sides want to stop aiding in civilian slaughters.

All I ask is for people to be straight about who and what is involved. This is largely a proxy war between Saudi Arabia and Iran. We, have aided Saudi Arabia for reasons that seem ridiculous, especially know. Our relations with Saudi Arabia have been a huge stain on the country.
Thread will be happy to know that the Donald was all in with Saudi Arabia and all about war with Iran so he is the one Diego should be approaching about people dying.

[pgardn]

"both sides", eh pee pee?

call me pea, pea please...
If we are going juvenile lets do this.

[pgardn]

Don diego, fuego!!!

Thread you dont even know what your God Trump thinks about this.
He would have your head for this treachery against his Saudi Arabia.
Good lord, at least figure out which side you need to be on if you are all about Trump.

[Thread]

Thread you dont even know what your God Trump thinks about this.
He would have your head for this treachery against his Saudi Arabia.
Good lord, at least figure out which side you need to be on if you are all about Trump.

True, I don't like to get into the weeds, the deep ones, you know, so, just grant me some room, tights. Savvy, peeg?

[diego]

Where did I say the US has no fault in this.
I said it takes TWO, as in two sides, to cause shit like this to happen and that is what has happened.
If you have read this thread you would think only the US was at fault in this whole thing by the articles, and that is not true.
Iran has played a significant role in causing this problem to stay relevant and is also responsible for the deaths of many people.

more than two sides, almost always; fair enough though i thought you werent even including the US as a relevant actor. for the record i never said iran and the houthis were beacons of light either.

i think my point stands though, i think the west assumes a moral superiority and superior ethics in these matters, that doesnt apply neither practically nor logically. Super power, empire, basically precludes civilian deaths, and i dont think your innocent/target shooting % or type of government attenuate the fact that innocent children die in these wars.

[pgardn]

more than two sides, almost always; fair enough though i thought you werent even including the US as a relevant actor. for the record i never said iran and the houthis were beacons of light either.

i think my point stands though, i think the west assumes a moral superiority and superior ethics in these matters, that doesnt apply neither practically nor logically. Super power, empire, basically precludes civilian deaths, and i dont think your innocent/target shooting % or type of government attenuate the fact that innocent children die in these wars.

I think you are absolutely correct.
The US has had numerous outings in Central and South America under the guise of bringing democracy and all we really wanted was an in for some big fruit company or some other big corporation. But we know this because we can read this, from US sources. We tell on ourselves. We air our dirty laundry. We know we are in many cases hypocrites that should should strive to do better.

On the other side of the coin we also have US efforts that go forgotten that are pretty damn noble. The work in Northern Ireland by Clinton who handed it over to George Mitchell that basically was an effort for people to stop blowing each other up. That simple. We were far removed from it (although some Irish in the US contributed $ to the IRA) George Mitchell's role in this was heroic. He was sick of people blowing each other up. He was as determined in peace as the IRA and the Unionist loyalist were in trying to kill each other.
And in Iraq, which we made a mess of, we bombed the hell out of ISIS to save 30,000 Yazidi people from being slaughtered. Their religion is far from anything most Americans would join, the mission took some risk and $, but we saved 30,000 people from certain death. People we have zero in common with except that we knew they would get slaughtered if we did not bomb ISIS in that area and send in heavy relief of food and supplies. We saved them. Ultimately from a beast we might have created.
There are more, but you will not hear about these because that would paint a diverse picture of US military action. Also an interesting read is the US helping stop the slaughter of MUSLIMS, yes MUSlIMS, in Bosnia-Herz... by the Serbs. Many of them came to this country and became productive citizens.

[DMC]

Got me...
Like a child "he got me."

Iran funded and gave weapons to Houthi rebels who killed many, many people in Yemen.
To ask me when its enough is absolutely ludicrous. Like Im supposed to know when both sides want to stop aiding in civilian slaughters.

All I ask is for people to be straight about who and what is involved. This is largely a proxy war between Saudi Arabia and Iran. We, have aided Saudi Arabia for reasons that seem ridiculous, especially know. Our relations with Saudi Arabia have been a huge stain on the country.
Thread will be happy to know that the Donald was all in with Saudi Arabia and all about war with Iran so he is the one Diego should be approaching about people dying.

The US funded and gave weapons to plenty including OBL, who killed over 3000 Americans.

[DMC]

more than two sides, almost always; fair enough though i thought you werent even including the US as a relevant actor. for the record i never said iran and the houthis were beacons of light either.

i think my point stands though, i think the west assumes a moral superiority and superior ethics in these matters, that doesnt apply neither practically nor logically. Super power, empire, basically precludes civilian deaths, and i dont think your innocent/target shooting % or type of government attenuate the fact that innocent children die in these wars.

They also pick their faves and support them, they make one side evil and the other good, knowing little about either.

[ElNono]

more than two sides, almost always; fair enough though i thought you werent even including the US as a relevant actor. for the record i never said iran and the houthis were beacons of light either.

i think my point stands though, i think the west assumes a moral superiority and superior ethics in these matters, that doesnt apply neither practically nor logically. Super power, empire, basically precludes civilian deaths, and i dont think your innocent/target shooting % or type of government attenuate the fact that innocent children die in these wars.

Nobody is a saint. However, losing wars has consequences. When Russia bent the knee in the 90s at the end of the Cold War, it wasn't just that they had to cower back home. They also benefited greatly from foreign investments and they were well aware that NATO won.

Putler can keep throwing as many bombs as he wants, and keep deluding himself about bringing Russia back to the Soviet days. He won't. His country's economy is smaller than a few US states, and there's better odds of him getting offed by his own intelligence services.

This is all his own doing as well, he cornered himself with yes men, and now he's in too deep to back out.

[Winehole23]

Not a word about Iran and the Houthi rebels...

In this case, it takes two to tango to kill this many people.This is a civil war and a proxy war; I would count Iran's role as akin to the US's, strategically and morally. The US and the KSA are responsible for far more deaths for enforcing a blockade and by raining bombs on the people, I don't see how you get around that except by ignoring it.

[Winehole23]

lol DMC broad brush generalizing about no one in particular

[Winehole23]

doubt anything comes of it, but Congress merely alluding to its war powers is borderline newsworthy


A bipartisan group of nearly 50 members of Congress introduced H.J.Res. 87 (https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-joint-resolution/87) today, legislation to invoke constitutional war powers to end unauthorized United States military involvement in Saudi Arabia’s brutal war in Yemen. The resolution was led in the House of Representatives by Representatives Peter DeFazio (OR-04), Pramila Jayapal (WA-07), Nancy Mace (SC-01), and Adam Schiff (CA-28). A companion version will be introduced by Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT) in the Senate when the upper chamber reconvenes.

Consistent with virtually identical provisions the House has adopted for three consecutive years — most recently in an amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act passed (https://khanna.house.gov/media/press-releases/release-house-passes-khanna-amendment-end-support-saudi-led-coalition-s-war) by a bipartisan majority in 2021 — this new resolution would put an end to U.S. military participation in offensive air strikes that are operationally essential to the Saudi-led military campaign. The resolution includes provisions to:



End U.S. intelligence sharing that enables offensive Saudi-led coalition strikes;
End U.S. logistical support for offensive Saudi-led coalition strikes, including the providing of maintenance and spare parts to coalition members engaged in anti-Houthi bombings in Yemen; and,
Prohibit U.S. personnel from being assigned to command, coordinate, participate in the movement of, or accompany Saudi-led coalition forces engaged in hostilities without prior specific statutory authorization by Congress.


“Article I of the Constitution is clear: Congress, not the Executive branch, has the sole authority to declare war and authorize involvement of U.S. forces in overseas conflicts, including inserting U.S. troops as advisors in aid of foreign-led hostilities,” said Rep. DeFazio. “It’s critical that the Biden Administration take the steps necessary to fulfill their promise to end U.S. support for the disastrous Saudi-led war in Yemen. We should not be involved in yet another conflict in the Middle East— especially a brutal war that has created the world’s largest humanitarian crisis, and contributed to the deaths of at least 377,000 civilians.”

“Congress cannot sit by and allow the United States’ complicity in the worst humanitarian crisis in the world to continue,” said Rep. Jayapal. “There are more than 16 million Yemenis living on the brink of starvation and more than two million children suffering from acute malnutrition — and the American people’s tax dollars are helping finance that suffering. I am proud to join my colleagues in leading the introduction of this resolution today, and securing a vote to finally put a stop to American involvement in this catastrophe. We look forward to seeing this resolution pass the House and Senate and be signed into law by the President, so he can fulfill his commitment to ending U.S. involvement in this crisis.”

"The war in Yemen continues, sadly, to be an overlooked humanitarian crisis; it is imperative Congress rescinds U.S. support for this unauthorized military conflict and works toward peace on the Arabian peninsula,” said Rep. Mace.

“The recent ceasefire has created an opportunity for American diplomacy to help end the tremendous human suffering caused by the war in Yemen,” said Rep. Schiff. “The clearest and best way to press all sides to the negotiating table is for Congress to immediately invoke its constitutional war powers to end U.S. involvement in this conflict.”

Today’s introduction comes more than seven years after unauthorized U.S. participation began. Since 2015, Saudi Arabia’s airstrikes and air-and-sea blockade have cost hundreds of thousands (https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20211123-yemen-war-will-have-killed-377-000-by-year-s-end-un) of lives and threatened (https://news.un.org/en/story/2022/03/1113852) millions more with famine. In recent months, Saudi airstrikes escalated (https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2022/03/21/numbers-dont-lie-more-saudi-attacks-on-yemen-came-after-new-us-support/), killing and injuring four times (https://mailchi.mp/44ee74b497a3/seven-years-of-the-saudi-led-air-war-in-yemen-yemen-data-project-march2022-13474205) more civilians than in 2021.
https://progressives.house.gov/2022/6/members-of-congress-introduce-bipartisan-war-powers-resolution-to-end-unauthorized-u-s-involvement-in-saudi-war-in-yemen