europe has too many slots :cry the rest of the world needs more. :cry

[dfens]

tbh y'all niggas should thank daddy infantino for making it 48 teams :lol

[ElNono]

Too early, IMO...

Uruguay won, Peru was the better team and missed everything, Argentina was shit and still choked the win away, tbh...

Let's see after the 1st round...

[dfens]

Too early, IMO...

Uruguay won, Peru was the better team and missed everything, Argentina was shit and still choked the win away, tbh...

Let's see after the 1st round...

tbh I just discuss about football quality in general. Argentina choked vs Icyland (trash) not vs a weak Italy/Netherlands. Peru was the better team yet lost against an absolute no name Denmark. Urugay beat Egypt so that doesn't say much in my book. I'm saying that barely qualifying 2nd/3rd tiers from Europe are holding their own against the best from other continents (sans Brasil). You'd think Bosnia / Austria / Netherlands / Italy / Turkey / Slovakia / Ukraine / Slovenia / Bulgaria / Romania / Greece / Norway / etc would do the same, since they're either right there tbh with Denmark/Croatia or much better. My point is that the rest of the world plays either tactically antiquated systems or lacks personal discipline even with euro coaches. There are exceptions (Brasil, Uruguay) but they are rare and tbh I'm actually seeing Europe pulling away instead of the other way around (As we'd all expected 10-15 years ago)

I actually like the 48 cup for this reason, seeing more world vs world. Tbh I think we should let all decent teams play, one more game hurts nobody imo.

[ElNono]

tbh I just discuss about football quality in general. Argentina choked vs Icyland (trash) not vs a weak Italy/Netherlands. Peru was the better team yet lost against an absolute no name Denmark. Urugay beat Egypt so that doesn't say much in my book. I'm saying that barely qualifying 2nd/3rd tiers from Europe are holding their own against the best from other continents (sans Brasil). You'd think Bosnia / Austria / Netherlands / Italy / Turkey / Slovakia / Ukraine / Slovenia / Bulgaria / Romania / Greece / Norway / etc would do the same, since they're either right there tbh with Denmark/Croatia or much better. My point is that the rest of the world plays either tactically antiquated systems or lacks personal discipline even with euro coaches. There are exceptions (Brasil, Uruguay) but they are rare and tbh I'm actually seeing Europe pulling away instead of the other way around (As we'd all expected 10-15 years ago)

I actually like the 48 cup for this reason, seeing more world vs world. Tbh I think we should let all decent teams play, one more game hurts nobody imo.

What I'm saying is that it's just one game. There was no 7-1 or shit like that. Argentina almost ties with Iran in the 1st round last WC, and ended up in the Final, after eliminating the Belgium and Netherlands cinderellas, tbh...

I completely agree that teams like lolItaly or even Chile should make it over Morocco or Egypt, tbh... but you don't need 48 teams for that...

[dfens]

What I'm saying is that it's just one game. There was no 7-1 or shit like that. Argentina almost ties with Iran in the 1st round last WC, and ended up in the Final, after eliminating the Belgium and Netherlands cinderellas, tbh...

I completely agree that teams like lolItaly or even Chile should make it over Morocco or Egypt, tbh... but you don't need 48 teams for that...

for me 1-1 with icyland is 7-1 territory tbh.
We'll see tbh, I think these non-euro teams will pick up the slack : Brasil, Mexico, Panama, Senegal. Colombia is a pussy team and will fail per par. We'll see what Brasil is made of in the round of 16. Panama will play thug ball and England/Belgium are soft so that's a shot htere. Senegal are actually decent tbh, and in an open group. Mexico is always an uncomfortable team, without expectations they're as nasty as it gets as a group team.

[diego]

what a reactionary stupid take. 1-1 with iceland is exactly what your european champion alpha did last year. funniest of all is when that happened, butthurt ronaldo made fun of the iceland players for celebrating the tie, said it just showed how small time they were- and here he was celebrating a tie with spain.

one game doesnt say much of anything really, if anything this game was encouraging for argentina considering how bad they were playing before, most of the young guys played well. If pavon got the penalty that ronaldo got the day before, law of averages says that one goes in. messi had a bad day but shit happens. I suppose you thought spain was done in 2010 after losing to swiss in their first game? Both Peru and Argentina should have won today if not for bad finishing, man of the match in both games goes to the euro goalies.

[Canyonero]

Agreed, Europe has too many countries. We should go back to the Empire era tbh.

[pgardn]

tbh I just discuss about football quality in general. Argentina choked vs Icyland (trash) not vs a weak Italy/Netherlands. Peru was the better team yet lost against an absolute no name Denmark. Urugay beat Egypt so that doesn't say much in my book. I'm saying that barely qualifying 2nd/3rd tiers from Europe are holding their own against the best from other continents (sans Brasil). You'd think Bosnia / Austria / Netherlands / Italy / Turkey / Slovakia / Ukraine / Slovenia / Bulgaria / Romania / Greece / Norway / etc would do the same, since they're either right there tbh with Denmark/Croatia or much better. My point is that the rest of the world plays either tactically antiquated systems or lacks personal discipline even with euro coaches. There are exceptions (Brasil, Uruguay) but they are rare and tbh I'm actually seeing Europe pulling away instead of the other way around (As we'd all expected 10-15 years ago)

I actually like the 48 cup for this reason, seeing more world vs world. Tbh I think we should let all decent teams play, one more game hurts nobody imo.

Christen F’N Eriksen.

Thats a name in my book.

[pgardn]

Oh it’s the Europe v. S. America thingy again.
The basis of Penaldo v. Misty.

[dfens]

what a reactionary stupid take. 1-1 with iceland is exactly what your european champion alpha did last year. funniest of all is when that happened, butthurt ronaldo made fun of the iceland players for celebrating the tie, said it just showed how small time they were- and here he was celebrating a tie with spain.

one game doesnt say much of anything really, if anything this game was encouraging for argentina considering how bad they were playing before, most of the young guys played well. If pavon got the penalty that ronaldo got the day before, law of averages says that one goes in. messi had a bad day but shit happens. I suppose you thought spain was done in 2010 after losing to swiss in their first game? Both Peru and Argentina should have won today if not for bad finishing, man of the match in both games goes to the euro goalies.

son that portugal squad was fucking trash compared to this argentina.
I never thought spain was done lol in '10 :lol
Both peru and argentina showed one thing today that both portgual'16 and spain'10 didn't: antiquated tactics and a lack of discipline, which can consistently make even the best of rosters look poor.
While the other results were statistical anomalies argentina has been playing like shit since '16, with no signs of improvement. Also messi has been playing mediocre football for NT. So not that reactionary tbh.

[dfens]

Oh it’s the Europe v. S. America thingy again.
The basis of Penaldo v. Misty.

well, penaldo does better against stronger competition, with a weaker and less talented squad, so it's only fair to point that out tbh.

[diego]

:lol

[DAF86]

Germany has been sucking for quite a bit now, tbh.

[SpurOutofTownFan]

sons... all of these games will be closer than expected. all teams are tough or somewhat tough... those that have inferior talent will park the bus and complicate things and try to beat you on a counter attack after you put all the effort. Other teams will play thugball and break you apart. Refs are calling this world cup with silk.

Again, this world cup is the inflection point between easy bets and the present and future or football. I don't think there aren't any cinderellas anymore. I get it about the Saudis perhaps the worst defending team of the pack.

[weebo]

tbh I just discuss about football quality in general. Argentina choked vs Icyland (trash) not vs a weak Italy/Netherlands. Peru was the better team yet lost against an absolute no name Denmark. Urugay beat Egypt so that doesn't say much in my book. I'm saying that barely qualifying 2nd/3rd tiers from Europe are holding their own against the best from other continents (sans Brasil). You'd think Bosnia / Austria / Netherlands / Italy / Turkey / Slovakia / Ukraine / Slovenia / Bulgaria / Romania / Greece / Norway / etc would do the same, since they're either right there tbh with Denmark/Croatia or much better. My point is that the rest of the world plays either tactically antiquated systems or lacks personal discipline even with euro coaches. There are exceptions (Brasil, Uruguay) but they are rare and tbh I'm actually seeing Europe pulling away instead of the other way around (As we'd all expected 10-15 years ago)

I actually like the 48 cup for this reason, seeing more world vs world. Tbh I think we should let all decent teams play, one more game hurts nobody imo.

:lol

[apalisoc_9]

Thread backfire.

[Spurtacular]

for me 1-1 with icyland is 7-1 territory tbh.


You're a fucking retard.

[pgardn]

Swiss individual technical ability is top notch.
They also hacked Neymar crybaby the entire game. Ref needed to give some early yellows.

[pgardn]

You're a fucking retard.

Considering this source dfens must be brilliant.

[Spurtacular]

Considering this source dfens must be brilliant.

:lmao Grudge posting.

[dfens]

:lol

Thread backfire.
tbh y'all niggas :lol as much as you want and indeed Germany has shamefully shat the bed but this thread is here for a reason. Look at the results.


You're a fucking retard.
insightful tbh, a top 10 team with the would be goat choke massively against an irrelevant minion yet I'm retarded for pointing out the obvious. merican school system at work smh :lmao


Considering this source dfens must be brilliant.
son what do you expect from redneck farmers: no schools, ugly cousins=sisters=mothers=wives, mexicans taking their jobs, trump fucking them up with tariffs ... tough life tbh :cry

[Spurtacular]

insightful tbh, a top 10 team with the would be goat choke massively against an irrelevant minion yet I'm retarded for pointing out the obvious. merican school system at work smh

Low on sleep and for a second I was thinking I was reading your quote and thinking it was mine; and I was thinking man, I do I really sound this stupid? Then I realized..... :lmao

[dfens]

Low on sleep and for a second I was thinking I was reading your quote and thinking it was mine; and I was thinking man, I do I really sound this stupid? Then I realized..... :lmao

sons why are you actively trying to derail all threads like a punk ass passive aggressive bitch ? Lmao sons, your credibility in this thread is lower than the intelligence of an average merican.

also merrica is becoming irrelevant by the day so deal with it tbh

[Spurtacular]

sons why are you actively trying to derail all threads like a punk ass passive aggressive bitch ? Lmao sons, your credibility in this thread is lower than the intelligence of an average merican.

also merrica is becoming irrelevant by the day so deal with it tbh

Yea, just like this. I was thinking man, I can't sound this stupid. Then I was happy when I realized it was your dumbass shit. :lol

[pgardn]

Yea, just like this. I was thinking man, I can't sound this stupid. Then I was happy when I realized it was your dumbass shit. :lol

You want to see our US team in this WC...

You like handouts snowflake?
You gonna cry because we stink?

[pgardn]

sons why are you actively trying to derail all threads like a punk ass passive aggressive bitch ? Lmao sons, your credibility in this thread is lower than the intelligence of an average merican.

also merrica is becoming irrelevant by the day so deal with it tbh


Funny when all of these threads eventually lead to Ronaldo v. Messi...
Actually, can’t acuse German dude for most of it. But it is truth...

[Spurtacular]

You want to see our US team in this WC...

You like handouts snowflake?
You gonna cry because we stink?

At least reply to the right quote you bitter fucktard.

[pgardn]

At least reply to the right quote you bitter fucktard.

What % of the players in this WC are gay and does this stimulate your pseudo-anger (ie lingering doubts about your sexuality)?

Did I do better?

[Spurtacular]

What % of the players in this WC are gay and does this stimulate your pseudo-anger (ie lingering doubts about your sexuality)?

Did I do better?

You did really well for a faggot.

[dfens]

bump niggas

[ElNono]

bump niggas

[DAF86]

Poland a seeded team just because they get to play against the San Marinos and Moldavias of this World. :lol

[apalisoc_9]

Poland a seeded team just because they get to play against the San Marinos and Moldavias of this World. :lol

Outside lf the first tier euro teams. All of this Euro teams are trash

[ElNono]

tbh, teams eliminated out of the World Cup so far:

Middle-East
Egypt
Saudi Arabia
Morocco
Tunisia

North America
Costa Rica
Panama

South America
Peru

Europe
Poland

It won't matter with 48 teams, tbh, but middle east teams...

[Canyonero]

lol Pornland

[apalisoc_9]

tbh, teams eliminated out of the World Cup so far:

Middle-East
Egypt
Saudi Arabia
Morocco
Tunisia

North America
Costa Rica
Panama

South America
Peru

Europe
Poland

It won't matter with 48 teams, tbh, but middle east teams...

Middle East is not a continent broseph

[apalisoc_9]

Asia only has one eliminated team so far.
Out of 5.


AFC deserves more spots.

[Ghazi]

GO IRAN

[apalisoc_9]

Meanwhile Mexico carrying CONCAF.

What a shitty continent.

Just give Mexico automatic qualification and not play the qualifiers.

[ElNono]

Middle East is not a continent broseph

I know, but it's the Asia-Africa combo, and the Middle East teams are the ones that shit the bed the worst, tbh...

There's 5 Asian teams, 5 African teams, 5 South American teams, 3 North American teams and 14 Euro teams...

[Spurtacular]

Outside lf the first tier euro teams. All of this Euro teams are trash


Only shitty euros had good expectations. I treat all second tier Euro teams like they're in the Japan, CAF team level and make no mistake poland is 2nd tier.

You need to self-ban yourself.

[dfens]

tbh y'all niggas laughing about poland but it's coming out that there's massive problems inside the team. argentina ain't the only team with problems tbh.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

So it’s a fair excuse for Poland but not Argentina?

Come on buddy :toast

[apalisoc_9]

Europe spot should be reduced to 6.

[TDMVPDPOY]

too many slots, yet italy and holland cant even qualify? lol

all u need is easy group and hope that country fail with injuries

this wc has seen more upsets then favorites winning against shit holes who have no business at the tournament

[dfens]

So it’s a fair excuse for Poland but not Argentina?

Come on buddy :toast

mi negro are you comparing potatoland to argentina with a would be goat ? I know y'all niggas living in tough times right now but have some dignity tbh. :lol

[dfens]

Europe spot should be reduced to 6.

qualification ain't over for even the first half of the groups and europe already has 6 teams qualified, maybe 7 by the end of tonight :lmao

[ElNono]

More Africans and European teams eliminated, tbh... smh

[Amuseddaysleeper]

:lol

[HarlemHeat37]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgtazOMUcAAGio7?format=jpg

[dfens]

meh, even with germany sucking this thread still has a point tbh.

[hater]

1012019450646814722

[DAF86]

meh, even with germany sucking this thread still has a point tbh.

Glad to know you are ok son. :toast

[dfens]

Glad to know you are ok son. :toast

Still a nice vacation going on tbh so might as well have fun sons :toast

[Bynumite]

At least it was the gooks and not a SA team, otherwise we would never hear the end of it :lol

[DAF86]

At least it was the gooks and not a SA team, otherwise we would never hear the end of it :lol

Upping up the jinx attempt, I see. :lol

[apalisoc_9]

qualification ain't over for even the first half of the groups and europe already has 6 teams qualified, maybe 7 by the end of tonight :lmao

You know thats BS.

They have 13 teams. They only a 50% success rate to get 7 teams.

Not Like South America, asia etc will have seven when get 4 spots.

[dfens]

You know thats BS.

They have 13 teams. They only a 50% success rate to get 7 teams.

Not Like South America, asia etc will have seven when get 4 spots.

son are you retarded tbh ?
Russland, Spanien, Portugal, Frankreich, Denmark, Kroatien, Scheiss, Schweden, England, Belgium ... that's 10.
Germany and Poland failed spectacularly.
Serbia had a tough group and that's life.
Icyland drew with Argentina.

That's a fucking 71% reaching knockout phase rate from Euro countries, by far the best rate out of all continents, while also having euros compete with euros (which also mathematically guarantees a decrease in percentage in this case).

North merican education system at work smh :lmao lmao racists minorities trying to spin the truth.

[apalisoc_9]

son are you retarded tbh ?
Russland, Spanien, Portugal, Frankreich, Denmark, Kroatien, Scheiss, Schweden, England, Belgium ... that's 10.
Germany and Poland failed spectacularly.
Serbia had a tough group and that's life.
Icyland drew with Argentina.

That's a fucking 71% reaching knockout phase rate from Euro countries, by far the best rate out of all continents, while also having euros compete with euros (which also mathematically guarantees a decrease in percentage in this case).

North merican education system at work smh :lmao lmao racists minorities trying to spin the truth.

4 of europe spots should go to South America

[ElNono]

son are you retarded tbh ?
Russland, Spanien, Portugal, Frankreich, Denmark, Kroatien, Scheiss, Schweden, England, Belgium ... that's 10.
Germany and Poland failed spectacularly.
Serbia had a tough group and that's life.
Icyland drew with Argentina.

That's a fucking 71% reaching knockout phase rate from Euro countries, by far the best rate out of all continents, while also having euros compete with euros (which also mathematically guarantees a decrease in percentage in this case).

North merican education system at work smh :lmao lmao racists minorities trying to spin the truth.

If Colombia makes it, South America is at 80%, tbh... and that's with just 5 teams (where every elimination cost them 20%, whereas every Euro eliminated only drops them 7%)...

Current count of teams eliminated by region:
Asia: 1 (Australia)
South America: 1 (Peru)
Central America: 2 (Costa Rica, Panama)
Europe: 4 (Poland, Germany, Serbia, Iceland)
Africa: everybody but Senegal (nobody cares)

[ElNono]

did Switzerland really tie with Costa Rica today? :lol

[apalisoc_9]

If Colombia makes it, South America is at 80%, tbh... and that's with just 5 teams (where every elimination cost them 20%, whereas every Euro eliminated only drops them 7%)...

Current count of teams eliminated by region:
Asia: 1 (Australia)
South America: 1 (Peru)
Central America: 2 (Costa Rica, Panama)
Europe: 4 (Poland, Germany, Serbia, Iceland)
Africa: everybody but Senegal (nobody cares)

CONEMBOL has the highest point per group right now.

CONCACF is again shitty outside of Mexico only US overrates CONCACAF

[DAF86]

son are you retarded tbh ?
Russland, Spanien, Portugal, Frankreich, Denmark, Kroatien, Scheiss, Schweden, England, Belgium ... that's 10.
Germany and Poland failed spectacularly.
Serbia had a tough group and that's life.
Icyland drew with Argentina.

That's a fucking 71% reaching knockout phase rate from Euro countries, by far the best rate out of all continents, while also having euros compete with euros (which also mathematically guarantees a decrease in percentage in this case).

North merican education system at work smh :lmao lmao racists minorities trying to spin the truth.

The fuck? :lol Conmebol constantly puts from 80 to 100% of its representatives in the second round.

[diego]

Poland a seeded team just because they get to play against the San Marinos and Moldavias of this World. :lol

actually it was worse, they were seeded because they manipulated the fifa ranking system by not scheduling friendlies so their ranking wouldnt dip (like swiss in 2014 and wales in 2016 euro). Aside from the formula being stupid and producing bad groups on its own, this kind of scheming exarcebates the problem. its been reformed now because of this.

I dont have a huge problem with europe getting 14 slots, the bigger issue is how they distribute them- depending on the group you get qualification can be easy or titanic, and thus crappy teams make it. The reason south america's qualifier is more competitive is that there are no groups, you dont luck out of facing the good teams.
Of course, there is an obvious solution to improve the quality of WC teams (have more intercontinental playoffs), but with a 48 team cup coming clearly improving the quality of competition is not a priority.

might as well add the link: https://sports.yahoo.com/exploiting-fifa-rankings-poland-beat-spain-pot-1-2018-world-cup-draw-012212559.html

[DAF86]

Euro champion can't beat South American teams. Eliminated by Chile in Confed cup and Uruguay now. That's what happens when you can't feed on generic Euro teams, tbh.

[dfens]

europe 6 teams in the quarters
s'merica 2 teams in the quarters
n'merica 0
asia 0
africa 0

looks about right tbh.

[apalisoc_9]

europe 6 teams in the quarters
s'merica 2 teams in the quarters
n'merica 0
asia 0
africa 0

looks about right tbh.

Europe 8 teams eliminated before the Quarters
SA 3
Asia 5
CAF 5
CONCACAF 3

Looks about right.

If South America had 13 countries theyd probably get better numbers.

[dfens]

Europe 8 teams eliminated before the Quarters
SA 3
Asia 5
CAF 5
CONCACAF 3

Looks about right.

If South America had 13 countries theyd probably get better numbers.



do percentages nig. you'll see that both europe and south 'merica do about as good, whereas the rest of the world sucks (except: mexico).
also keep in mind that if europe would send all their bosnias, italies, netherlands, irelands, northern irelands, norways, austrias, ukraines and so on they'd get better numbers too. The drop in south merica after chile is pretty stark, and don't get me started with how teams there overinflate their resume with ridiculous home court like playing at 3000m, that's a gimmick which would just expose those teams at the world cup.

you got much to learn sons.

[DAF86]

do percentages nig. you'll see that both europe and south 'merica do about as good, whereas the rest of the world sucks (except: mexico).
also keep in mind that if europe would send all their bosnias, italies, netherlands, irelands, northern irelands, norways, austrias, ukraines and so on they'd get better numbers too. The drop in south merica after chile is pretty stark, and don't get me started with how teams there overinflate their resume with ridiculous home court like playing at 3000m, that's a gimmick which would just expose those teams at the world cup.

you got much to learn sons.

That's a lie. When was the last time Moldovia beat Italy 6-1? 'Cause that's what Bolivia (SA worst team) did to Argentina just a couple of qualifiers ago. There isn't any kind of "stark drop" in SA, every team is competitive.

[dfens]

That's a lie. When was the last time Moldovia beat Italy 6-1? 'Cause that's what Bolivia (SA worst team) did to Argentina just a couple of qualifiers ago. There isn't any kind of "stark drop" in SA, every team is competitive.

come on son what the fuck is this take? Europe has some countries that have no relevance in football, and who'll NEVER even sniff qualification. They're also irrelevant in qualification because they get beaten up by any relevant team. The point of the thread is that europe could easily provide more teams and we consistently do very well. It doesn't say south america is a shithole, albeit besides uruguay/argentina/brasil i have zero respect for any conmebol team as they all play a dirty monkeyball based game with poor tactics and get by exclusively on talent.

just lol at it being a lie when there's at least 10 countries in Europe right now who'd give any team left in the tournament a decent challenge : Italy, Netherlands, Austria, Ireland, Northern Ireland, Belarus, Greece, Norway, Belarus, Romania, Bosnia, Montenegro, etc.

also lol at your entire arguing position when Europe is doing well even with Germany choking, Spain choking, Italy not even making it due to imbecile coach, Netherlands having a down 4-5 years and so on. This just proves that Europe is deep as fuck, and even when the first picks don't work there's more in the 2nd line.

Also lol @saying there's no stark decline, when Bolivia& Ecuador are gimmick teams and Venezuela sucks. That leaves us with a group of chile/colombia/paraguay/peru that are decent but play a dirty poor tactical game which is obvious when checking for any type of run at the world cup, as soon as they play a decent team they play a horrible dirty game and they're out. Sweden/Denmark/Swiss/2nd tier euros > this in both results and quality of play when it counts.

[dfens]

bump.

last 6 all euro teams, I was right about my guess of only 25% of teams being non-euro in the semis (keep in mind massive euro chokes were present but we'll ignore them for now)
2 of sweden, russia, england, croatia will go deeper than brasil
no conmebal teams in semis.
no chance at a ring
no contenders
brasil stomped over a run-of-the mill group, just glorified because "south america :cry" and got clamped down by a weak euro contender.

told y'all boys this since 3 years ago but y'all niggas never learn smh.

[dfens]

europe has too many teams :cry:cry

[Brazil]

As anticipated, Europe dominating :tu

[dfens]

As anticipated, Europe dominating :tu

but son Brasil is #1 team in the world
Argentina has the goat
Uruguay almost as good as Brasil
Chile b2b copa champs so top 5 team in the world.

how??:lmao

[Brazil]

but son Brasil is #1 team in the world
Argentina has the goat
Uruguay almost as good as Brasil
Chile b2b copa champs so top 5 team in the world.

how??:lmao

:lol

[diego]

Easy when you get penalties for flopping while allowed to defend by holding jerseys, pushing and taking out a players legs

Belgium at least plays well , brasil was poor finishing... Uruguay and Colombia were like Liverpool vs real Madrid, brain farts and ref fuckery, not superior play or tactics

[Canyonero]

Do France really count as a Euro team tbh?

[SpurOutofTownFan]

hater my nig some words on the TP thread please...

[dfens]

Easy when you get penalties for flopping while allowed to defend by holding jerseys, pushing and taking out a players legs

Belgium at least plays well , brasil was poor finishing... Uruguay and Colombia were like Liverpool vs real Madrid, brain farts and ref fuckery, not superior play or tactics

sons you can't really call refereeing here. Argentina play ugly as fuck and fouled like shit against better teams (croatia, france). Colombia played the dirtiest football in memory. Brasil foul like crazy too and flop like crazy in the box. Uruguay play anti football and are as dirty as they come. You're really arguing that south america has merits on sportsmanship? really nigga?

also those brain farts and fuckery are the results of strategic superiority of the other team (e.g. france), putting a lesser team in constant pressure, where it becomes easier to make mistakes, either through tactics (pressing weak points, dominating midfield, recovering the ball faster) or through personnel (defending team has to account for special players, e.g. mbappe speed, pogba counterattacking, tall athletes in dead ball situations). Man up and look at reality tbh.


Do France really count as a Euro team tbh?

well sons half of afrika is still a french colony so why not tbh?

[dfens]

tbh I'm getting tired of you south merican niggas always looking for excuses. Y'all niggas need to man the fuck up and look at football scientifically like all other teams on this planet, and call shit out. Call out bad tactics. Call out star players with too much clout at the NT. Call out outdated tactics. Call out flawed teams. Call out lack of effort or preparation. Call out dirtiness and petty tactics. I was the first to call out my country and I see nothing wrong with it, this is how you improve. You boys always find excuses, the ref was too lax, we got fouled too much, opponents played anti-game, opponents fouled star, neymar/misty was on his period, neymar/misty has no help, colombia are misunderstood with their dirtiness, france has immigrants, belgium has truffles, etc. Every fucking team deals with this shit besides you niggas.

Smh this is some real snowflake "we special" movement, like some emotionally clinging 2nd grade kids. It's simple, y'all niggas haven't seen a ring since 20 years ago for clear obvious reasons and there's no sign in sight saying it'll change until you reform football down there.

[SpurOutofTownFan]

Uruguay play anti football and are as dirty as they come

what are you smoking my youngest son and fav nig? Uruguay had 2 yellow cards in the entire tournament and has been playing fair football for over 10 years. Just look at the stats - it's all in there

[ElNono]

France should keep their African slot, but the rest should be handed to South America, tbh...

[dfens]

what are you smoking my youngest son and fav nig? Uruguay had 2 yellow cards in the entire tournament and has been playing fair football for over 10 years. Just look at the stats - it's all in there

this tournament y'all sons been ok tbh, but I'm also rating based on recent history, that suarez bite tbh .. I don't know how you niggas rate this but for me that's a massive black spot on your NT since '14. Also how the entire country rallied behind him as if it was "just a red". That's just poor taste. And before you hit me with the rulebook I have the same opinion on the schumacher/battiston incident.

[dfens]

France should keep their African slot, but the rest should be handed to South America, tbh...

sons in all honesty y'all niggas should get 1-2 more spots (1 guaranteed, 1 playoff). That would be the perfect balance imo. Europe should get 5 more. Anyway 48 teams coming so we'll see then.

[SpurOutofTownFan]

this tournament y'all sons been ok tbh, but I'm also rating based on recent history, that suarez bite tbh .. I don't know how you niggas rate this but for me that's a massive black spot on your NT since '14. Also how the entire country rallied behind him as if it was "just a red". That's just poor taste. And before you hit me with the rulebook I have the same opinion on the schumacher/battiston incident.

my youngest I'm fine with your assessment on suarez - now Uruguay isn't my team but I understand your point. I just don't agree that they are dirty. They used to kick the shit out of you back in the 90s and early 2000s. BTW, they won fair play in the copa america 2011 which I remember people were joking about

ONe thing about the red card dont know if you are referring to the hand against Ghana, I would do it if I was him. I've seen that many times and it was never a big deal until suarez did it

[dfens]

where's all the south america underrated talk now sons ?
smh can't even make the semis, england challenged belgium more than brasil, argentina got bent over by france, uruguay can't beat any contender, colombia kicked out for chimping and so on tbh. Not one contender in sight, for the last 20 years, yet y'all niggas keep talking :lol

[diego]

where's all the south america underrated talk now sons ?
smh can't even make the semis, england challenged belgium more than brasil, argentina got bent over by france, uruguay can't beat any contender, colombia kicked out for chimping and so on tbh. Not one contender in sight, for the last 20 years, yet y'all niggas keep talking :lol

the line between failure and success is razor thin, in 2014 argentina could and should have beat germany if higuain capitalizes on (hummels?) header back at goal, instead of talking about higuain and messi being chokers people and the amazing german tactics people would talk about germany not winning since 1990 and messi being the GOAT. I said the same thing when germany failed to qualify- could they have played a little better from a defense / creation stand point, sure, but regardless of that they had plenty of goal scoring opportunities in all 3 games that they were unlucky to convert, either because the opposing GK was inspired or the finishing a bit off. nobody always wins, specially not anymore. and the VAR thing is not an excuse, its logic- it was introduced to remove errors and improve consistency, yet there were still errors, and to make it worse those errors consistently went against south american teams. Im not surprised because it was obvious there would still be errors, what is surprising is that they were this obviously biased.

if you really think england played belgium better than brasil, or that the games are even comparable, you have to be retarded, courtois didnt even make a save against england. If the game had 2 more minutes brasil likely ties it up. France beat argentina well, but this argentina team is a literal disaster and even so scored 3 on them and had them defending to the last minute. uruguay was unlucky to give away a good goal on a free kick to france (one of very few they gave up, on a not particularly dangerous play and that they were carded for), but they were the ones creating more danger on the other end and should have been given a penalty kick when godin was grabbed by the shorts for 3 meters and then pushed in the back on a freekick. It wasnt called and shortly after their keeper pulls a karius, game over. france then proceeded to cynically waste time with a 2-0 lead and 40 minutes to play. colombia werent great, about equal to england, difference is one scored on a play the other on a flop (and england's keeper went 3 feet forward on the last PK, what the hell is VAR for, that isnt an interpretation play).

the story here isnt "south america is tactically weak/ chokers / chimps" / "euros are superior" or whatever racist BS you want to play. the story here is that attacking, star teams- Spain, Germany, Argentina, Brasil (4 of the top 6 contenders, only france and belgium left, the first 3 with the highest possession% of the tourney) have been eliminated, of that group only argentina and brasil by other contenders, and if we are being serious argentina shouldnt be considered one. In part because other teams parked the bus very well, because goalies had great games, because finishing and set pieces were poor. Teams that were supposed to be seeds, with star players in big clubs like portugal and poland flamed out quickly too, outperformed by the likes of sweden and russia. i suppose you think russia > portugal and sweden > poland? Or maybe in an elimination tournament, shit happens and the best team doesnt necessarily win?

[pgardn]

the line between failure and success is razor thin, in 2014 argentina could and should have beat germany if higuain capitalizes on (hummels?) header back at goal, instead of talking about higuain and messi being chokers people and the amazing german tactics people would talk about germany not winning since 1990 and messi being the GOAT. I said the same thing when germany failed to qualify- could they have played a little better from a defense / creation stand point, sure, but regardless of that they had plenty of goal scoring opportunities in all 3 games that they were unlucky to convert, either because the opposing GK was inspired or the finishing a bit off. nobody always wins, specially not anymore. and the VAR thing is not an excuse, its logic- it was introduced to remove errors and improve consistency, yet there were still errors, and to make it worse those errors consistently went against south american teams. Im not surprised because it was obvious there would still be errors, what is surprising is that they were this obviously biased.

if you really think england played belgium better than brasil, or that the games are even comparable, you have to be retarded, courtois didnt even make a save against england. If the game had 2 more minutes brasil likely ties it up. France beat argentina well, but this argentina team is a literal disaster and even so scored 3 on them and had them defending to the last minute. uruguay was unlucky to give away a good goal on a free kick to france (one of very few they gave up, on a not particularly dangerous play and that they were carded for), but they were the ones creating more danger on the other end and should have been given a penalty kick when godin was grabbed by the shorts for 3 meters and then pushed in the back on a freekick. It wasnt called and shortly after their keeper pulls a karius, game over. france then proceeded to cynically waste time with a 2-0 lead and 40 minutes to play. colombia werent great, about equal to england, difference is one scored on a play the other on a flop (and england's keeper went 3 feet forward on the last PK, what the hell is VAR for, that isnt an interpretation play).

the story here isnt "south america is tactically weak/ chokers / chimps" / "euros are superior" or whatever racist BS you want to play. the story here is that attacking, star teams- Spain, Germany, Argentina, Brasil (4 of the top 6 contenders, only france and belgium left, the first 3 with the highest possession% of the tourney) have been eliminated, of that group only argentina and brasil by other contenders, and if we are being serious argentina shouldnt be considered one. In part because other teams parked the bus very well, because goalies had great games, because finishing and set pieces were poor. Teams that were supposed to be seeds, with star players in big clubs like portugal and poland flamed out quickly too, outperformed by the likes of sweden and russia. i suppose you think russia > portugal and sweden > poland? Or maybe in an elimination tournament, shit happens and the best team doesnt necessarily win?

Wow.
There is actually a good deal of validity to most of this.
And coming from the Kane flopped guy... shocking.

[dfens]

the line between failure and success is razor thin, in 2014 argentina could and should have beat germany if higuain capitalizes on (hummels?) header back at goal, instead of talking about higuain and messi being chokers people and the amazing german tactics people would talk about germany not winning since 1990 and messi being the GOAT. I said the same thing when germany failed to qualify- could they have played a little better from a defense / creation stand point, sure, but regardless of that they had plenty of goal scoring opportunities in all 3 games that they were unlucky to convert, either because the opposing GK was inspired or the finishing a bit off. nobody always wins, specially not anymore. and the VAR thing is not an excuse, its logic- it was introduced to remove errors and improve consistency, yet there were still errors, and to make it worse those errors consistently went against south american teams. Im not surprised because it was obvious there would still be errors, what is surprising is that they were this obviously biased.

if you really think england played belgium better than brasil, or that the games are even comparable, you have to be retarded, courtois didnt even make a save against england. If the game had 2 more minutes brasil likely ties it up. France beat argentina well, but this argentina team is a literal disaster and even so scored 3 on them and had them defending to the last minute. uruguay was unlucky to give away a good goal on a free kick to france (one of very few they gave up, on a not particularly dangerous play and that they were carded for), but they were the ones creating more danger on the other end and should have been given a penalty kick when godin was grabbed by the shorts for 3 meters and then pushed in the back on a freekick. It wasnt called and shortly after their keeper pulls a karius, game over. france then proceeded to cynically waste time with a 2-0 lead and 40 minutes to play. colombia werent great, about equal to england, difference is one scored on a play the other on a flop (and england's keeper went 3 feet forward on the last PK, what the hell is VAR for, that isnt an interpretation play).

the story here isnt "south america is tactically weak/ chokers / chimps" / "euros are superior" or whatever racist BS you want to play. the story here is that attacking, star teams- Spain, Germany, Argentina, Brasil (4 of the top 6 contenders, only france and belgium left, the first 3 with the highest possession% of the tourney) have been eliminated, of that group only argentina and brasil by other contenders, and if we are being serious argentina shouldnt be considered one. In part because other teams parked the bus very well, because goalies had great games, because finishing and set pieces were poor. Teams that were supposed to be seeds, with star players in big clubs like portugal and poland flamed out quickly too, outperformed by the likes of sweden and russia. i suppose you think russia > portugal and sweden > poland? Or maybe in an elimination tournament, shit happens and the best team doesnt necessarily win?

son your base reasoning is fundamentally flawed.
The teams you call contenders all had massive flaws which didn't even need strong contenders to be shown. Germany lacked heart and a CDM. Spain lacked size and got shut down by a pedestrian Russia. Brasil lacked a true 9 and got exposed hard by belgium for this. Uruguay lacks creation in midfield and can't pressure a big team. It's all strategy tbh, all these teams got exposed for fundamental flaws. It's not about luck. It's not about hummels not making a header. It's not about a missed penalty. It's about flawed teams being exposed TIME AND TIME AGAIN through CLEAR weaknesses:
- varane's head isn't lucky when France are big and athletic as fuck, it's a certainty you need to plan for
- mexico counter attack isn't lucky, you need to run and press them hard when you lose possesion and you need a cdm
- brasil own goal and inability to cover hazard/de bruyne/lukkkaku 1v1 isn't bad luck, it's a consequence of belgium manhandling them. Belgium botched so many simple 3v3 counter-attacks that the score could've been in the 7-1 territory.
- brasil's gabriel jesus wasn't robbed by the ref, the ref was constantly antagonized by all the flopping and hence called the game close instead of loose, he even didn't card neymar (2 horrible yellow worthy flops just from memory.)
- argentina didn't have bad luck vs iceland, they lack size upfront and couldn't open a basic defence. Argentina didn't have bad luck vs France, they were so exposed on the back wings that only a sleepwalking performance and some brilliant individual goals from Argentina made the game look close (it wasn't)
- colombia wasn't robbed by the ref, they played dirty nigball all competition and refs started calling them out. They also weren't unlucky, they just didn't play football unless they were behind.


So GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK with all the race baiting and luck takes. All these teams lost because they had major weaknesses which were exposed time and time again. It's not luck/bad luck. You don't plan games and tournaments with perfect conditions in mind, refs make mistakes, players miss siters, players have bad days, wonder goals happen, etc. You're good enough you beat them anyway 90% of the time. You can't call ALL these teams going out on bad luck, it's just gross neglect of statistics.

[pgardn]

son your base reasoning is fundamentally flawed.
The teams you call contenders all had massive flaws which didn't even need strong contenders to be shown. Germany lacked heart and a CDM. Spain lacked size and got shut down by a pedestrian Russia. Brasil lacked a true 9 and got exposed hard by belgium for this. Uruguay lacks creation in midfield and can't pressure a big team. It's all strategy tbh, all these teams got exposed for fundamental flaws. It's not about luck. It's not about hummels not making a header. It's not about a missed penalty. It's about flawed teams being exposed TIME AND TIME AGAIN through CLEAR weaknesses:
- varane's head isn't lucky when France are big and athletic as fuck, it's a certainty you need to plan for
- mexico counter attack isn't lucky, you need to run and press them hard when you lose possesion and you need a cdm
- brasil own goal and inability to cover hazard/de bruyne/lukkkaku 1v1 isn't bad luck, it's a consequence of belgium manhandling them. Belgium botched so many simple 3v3 counter-attacks that the score could've been in the 7-1 territory.
- brasil's gabriel jesus wasn't robbed by the ref, the ref was constantly antagonized by all the flopping and hence called the game close instead of loose, he even didn't card neymar (2 horrible yellow worthy flops just from memory.)
- argentina didn't have bad luck vs iceland, they lack size upfront and couldn't open a basic defence. Argentina didn't have bad luck vs France, they were so exposed on the back wings that only a sleepwalking performance and some brilliant individual goals from Argentina made the game look close (it wasn't)
- colombia wasn't robbed by the ref, they played dirty nigball all competition and refs started calling them out. They also weren't unlucky, they just didn't play football unless they were behind.


So GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK with all the race baiting and luck takes. All these teams lost because they had major weaknesses which were exposed time and time again. It's not luck/bad luck. You don't plan games and tournaments with perfect conditions in mind, refs make mistakes, players miss siters, players have bad days, wonder goals happen, etc. You're good enough you beat them anyway 90% of the time. You can't call ALL these teams going out on bad luck, it's just gross neglect of statistics.

Just by stats Germany should have advanced.

Watch the games.
And call out the fundamental flaws BEFORE the match because Belgium has many fundamental flaws.
So does France.

You need to predict which fundamental flaw will be exposed BEFORE the contest.
Your hindsight is amazing.

[dfens]

Just by stats Germany should have advanced.

Watch the games.
And call out the fundamental flaws BEFORE the match because Belgium has many fundamental flaws.
So does France.

You need to predict which fundamental flaw will be exposed BEFORE the contest.
Your hindsight is amazing.

I'm not pretending to have seen all the flaws beforehand sons. I'm just pointing them out and saying that in hindsight those teams didn't fail because of bad luck.
I'm also reminding people that I called out south american teams for their inflexible brand of football since a long time ago.

[Spurtacular]

tbh I just discuss about football quality in general. Argentina choked vs Icyland (trash) not vs a weak Italy/Netherlands. Peru was the better team yet lost against an absolute no name Denmark. Urugay beat Egypt so that doesn't say much in my book. I'm saying that barely qualifying 2nd/3rd tiers from Europe are holding their own against the best from other continents (sans Brasil). You'd think Bosnia / Austria / Netherlands / Italy / Turkey / Slovakia / Ukraine / Slovenia / Bulgaria / Romania / Greece / Norway / etc would do the same, since they're either right there tbh with Denmark/Croatia or much better. My point is that the rest of the world plays either tactically antiquated systems or lacks personal discipline even with euro coaches. There are exceptions (Brasil, Uruguay) but they are rare and tbh I'm actually seeing Europe pulling away instead of the other way around (As we'd all expected 10-15 years ago)

I actually like the 48 cup for this reason, seeing more world vs world. Tbh I think we should let all decent teams play, one more game hurts nobody imo.

Denmark were the tallest team in the tourney; lots of good athletes on that team. And like Sweden and Belgium who went far, they had an impressive unbeaten streak coming into the tourney. Tbh, they're better quality than Croatia and should be in the semis, tbh.

[dfens]

Denmark were the tallest team in the tourney; lots of good athletes on that team. And like Sweden and Belgium who went far, they had an impressive unbeaten streak coming into the tourney. Tbh, they're better quality than Croatia and should be in the semis, tbh.

this is a game of skill son, big tall athletes are useful but not necessary. Croatia on a bad day outplayed Denmark, because they got better talent across the board, have a stellar midfield and are better competitors (as seen in the dramatic match vs russia). Also, if you'd bother to actually watch the games, Croatia are very athletic and fast themselves.

just lol at your entire post smh

[SpurOutofTownFan]

I think one thing all the semifinalists have in common is that at some point during the tournament they had a huge scare and were able to overcome it. Other teams went thru the same and could not recover. I believe there's merit in all 4 of these teams

[Spurtacular]

this is a game of skill son, big tall athletes are useful but not necessary. Croatia on a bad day outplayed Denmark, because they got better talent across the board, have a stellar midfield and are better competitors (as seen in the dramatic match vs russia). Also, if you'd bother to actually watch the games, Croatia are very athletic and fast themselves.

just lol at your entire post smh

Japan finishes the job against Belgium if they have height, "son".

Just lol at you be your typical douche self.

[dfens]

Japan finishes the job against Belgium if they have height, "son".

Just lol at you be your typical douche self.

sons Japan only had chances vs Belgium because the Belgian back line is poor and fails each time it is tested. In the game against Brasil the midfield supplanted it, so the weaknesses were hidden. Also I'll continue to call a coach a dumbass even if he wins with obvious tactics. Not calling nainggolan is going to hurt vs France, as will playing a back 3. Results don't make a wrong a right.

[Spurtacular]

sons Japan only had chances vs Belgium because the Belgian back line is poor and fails each time it is tested. In the game against Brasil the midfield supplanted it, so the weaknesses were hidden. Also I'll continue to call a coach a dumbass even if he wins with obvious tactics. Not calling nainggolan is going to hurt vs France, as will playing a back 3. Results don't make a wrong a right.

Let's bring it back, son. I never said skill doesn't matter. Only an idiot pretends height doesn't have it's advantages. It's pretty much the only reason Fellani is in the Belgium line-up.