Why the Spurs would be wise to relocate soon after the loss of Leonard

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Tim's long gone, Manu's gone, Parker's soon to be gone and Kawussy is as good as gone. Aldridge will go somewhere else when his contract expires, no doubt. Popovich will retire soon to spend the rest of his widowed days drinking wine and making retarded political rants.

The Spurs will very soon be stuck with a bunch of average young players and scrubs long-term. The "leaders" of the team will be all the Eurotrash wasted on draft and stash players in Europe, most of which never came here or busted out when they did come here. They'll win 25-30 games per year for the foreseeable future, never enough for an impact top draft pick nor competing for a playoff berth.

Soon, very soon, the AT&T Center arena emptiness will become a HUGE thing, in a way it never has before, not just in a "early third quarter at Whataburger" kind of way. Ex-fans that were diehards during the 1991-2016 heyday will not show up. Attendance will drop well below pre-David Robinson figures. There will be empty seats all over the stadium, and dollar seats will become a thing just like the SA Missions games. Even with the dollar seats, there will be a lot of emptiness.

The bottom line: SA just isn't a good enough city to support a struggling franchise or team in today's generation. The priorities just aren't there for the culture of the town of SA (unlike, say, another small market team in OKC). The metro area isn't big enough, and the support for the team outside of the 210 area code is virtually nonexistent (unlike, say, another small market team like the Green Bay Packers of the NFL). 1999-2014 (really, 1991-2016) was an amazing run for the city and the franchise, but the song has been sung, the book has been written and it is time for it to be closed for good.

In order to do what's best in the name of business, revenue and common sense, this soon-to-be struggling franchise should strongly consider relocating sooner rather than later. It has been ten years since Seattle has lost their team, and that would be a terrific option for relocation, as that city has yearned for their return since 2008. Other viable options include potentially Kansas City, St. Louis, San Diego, or even Vegas who just had an extremely successful season with their first ever pro sports team (hockey). There are countless possibilities. Ultimately, this franchise, founded in Dallas in the early 1970s, should seek to start a new great chapter in its studded history, but first it should determine its third home town -- one better equipped and suited than San Antonio.

[Dex]

No.

[Spurs4#5]

What makes you think they’re struggling? Just because Leonard might be gone doesn’t make them a struggling franchise. They got into the playoffs and took a game off of the warriors with guys like Forbes who probably shouldn’t be in a playoff rotation. The last time this team struggled this much without their star player, albeit under different circumstances they ended up creating a dynasty by drafting Duncan. Now I’m not saying that’s going to happen but there’s a chance of that happening. The point is people jump to conclusions so quickly without having hard facts. Kawhi could be traded tomorrow or he could resign with the spurs. You just don’t know. But the spurs aren’t struggling, they’re trying to figure out which direction they’re going to go in. Spurs fans I feel have no idea what struggling means. ( oh shit! We barely made it to the playoffs without our star player. Time to blow it up and sell the team.)

[BD24]

This narrative is really played out. The Spurs will never leave SA, every game is still a fucking sell out, deal with it faggots.

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Tl;dr

OP is a fucking dunce. Go sit in the corner.

[Ginobilly]

Spurs fucked up bigtime by not putting the att center downtown. Traffic sucks bigtime during events, and just ruins your experience. If it was downtown, 75% of people could just take bus since most busses pass through there. Theres no cool bars or restaurants close to the att center, but you can see crack heads walking by see some warehouses. No wonder kawhi wants out.... San Antonio is lame as fuck if you have money to burn. The gov who runs this city want to make it as poor and shitty as possible.

[BD24]

Spurs fucked up bigtime by not putting the att center downtown. Traffic sucks bigtime during events, and just ruins your experience. If it was downtown, 75% of people could just take bus since most busses pass through there. Theres no cool bars or restaurants close to the att center, but you can see crack heads walking by see some warehouses. No wonder kawhi wants out.... San Antonio is lame as fuck if you have money to burn. The gov who runs this city want to make it as poor and shitty as possible.
I was with you until your last few sentences.

Location choice was pretty poor, obviously downtown would be ideal, but even something on the northside would have been better than the current location. Its odd, because the stadium itself is quit fucking nice, just location sucks. American Airlines Center in Dallas did it right. They are in a prime location right by DART, they have a plaza outside the stadium with bars, restaurants, etc. Makes for a great gameday experience.

Governors don't run cities you stupid fuck :lol. With that said, San Antonio is one of the fastest growing economies of major cities in the country. Trending upwards in population, median salary, job growth, gdp, etc. But keep pushing your false narrative :lol I have only been here 5 years personally, but the city has made great leaps and bounds even since I moved here.

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Tl;dr

OP is a fucking dunce. Go sit in the corner.

[noles1983]

So boring and played out with the SA bashing. Fucking unoriginal cucks in here.

[BD24]

So boring and played out with the SA bashing. Fucking unoriginal cucks in here.
tbh. You would think SA was fucking shitty like like Cincinnati, Cleveland, STL, or other shit cities in the midwest the way people talk about it here :lol

[noles1983]

tbh. You would think SA was fucking shitty like like Cincinnati, Cleveland, STL, or other shit cities in the midwest the way people talk about it here :lol

Half of them probably never even been here, they are still living in their parents basements in an actual shitty city.

[BD24]

Half of them probably never even been here, they are still living in their parents basements in an actual shitty city.
Your absolutely right about that. It's funny every time I have friends or family visit from out of town they love San Antonio.

Maybe the faggots will get creative and come up with a new routine at some point. This one has gotten pretty tired and played out at this point tbh.

[toki9]

The Spurs will ...win 25-30 games per year for the foreseeable future, never enough for an impact top draft pick nor competing for a playoff berth.


If you only win 25 games, then you're pretty well within the lottery. Dallas won 24 this year and Sacramento won 27 (although they beat their lottery odds). And it looks like with the revamped lottery system, the odds improve for teams outside of the truly tanking teams...so winning 25-30 games will give you a good shot at a decent draft pick.

[Russ]

The Spurs should be as good or better next year even if they get nothing for Leonard (and they should at least get something).

Murray is young and ascending. LA is getting better within the Spurs ensemble. The Spurs will know going into the season that Leonard will not be there (unlike last year) and adjust accordingly from training camp on.

Many here like to deny it, but the Spurs' system is good -- with a few tweaks and some stability this time, they can make the playoffs again.

[BD24]

The Spurs should be as good or better next year even if they get nothing for Leonard (and they should at least get something).

Murray is young and ascending. LA is getting better within the Spurs ensemble. The Spurs will know going into the season that Leonard will not be there (unlike last year) and adjust accordingly from training camp on.

Many here like to deny it, but the Spurs' system is good -- with a few tweaks and some stability this time, they can make the playoffs again.
Agreed. Depending what kind of package they get for Kawhi they could easily win 50 games this season. Think about adding someone like Tatum to the team as the starting SF. Hell even Jaylen Brown would have been the best wing on the team by a long shot this year.

[lefty]

Yup time to leave that shithole

[Biggems]

Tim's long gone, Manu's gone, Parker's soon to be gone and Kawussy is as good as gone. Aldridge will go somewhere else when his contract expires, no doubt. Popovich will retire soon to spend the rest of his widowed days drinking wine and making retarded political rants.

The Spurs will very soon be stuck with a bunch of average young players and scrubs long-term. The "leaders" of the team will be all the Eurotrash wasted on draft and stash players in Europe, most of which never came here or busted out when they did come here. They'll win 25-30 games per year for the foreseeable future, never enough for an impact top draft pick nor competing for a playoff berth.

Soon, very soon, the AT&T Center arena emptiness will become a HUGE thing, in a way it never has before, not just in a "early third quarter at Whataburger" kind of way. Ex-fans that were diehards during the 1991-2016 heyday will not show up. Attendance will drop well below pre-David Robinson figures. There will be empty seats all over the stadium, and dollar seats will become a thing just like the SA Missions games. Even with the dollar seats, there will be a lot of emptiness.

The bottom line: SA just isn't a good enough city to support a struggling franchise or team in today's generation. The priorities just aren't there for the culture of the town of SA (unlike, say, another small market team in OKC). The metro area isn't big enough, and the support for the team outside of the 210 area code is virtually nonexistent (unlike, say, another small market team like the Green Bay Packers of the NFL). 1999-2014 (really, 1991-2016) was an amazing run for the city and the franchise, but the song has been sung, the book has been written and it is time for it to be closed for good.

In order to do what's best in the name of business, revenue and common sense, this soon-to-be struggling franchise should strongly consider relocating sooner rather than later. It has been ten years since Seattle has lost their team, and that would be a terrific option for relocation, as that city has yearned for their return since 2008. Other viable options include potentially Kansas City, St. Louis, San Diego, or even Vegas who just had an extremely successful season with their first ever pro sports team (hockey). There are countless possibilities. Ultimately, this franchise, founded in Dallas in the early 1970s, should seek to start a new great chapter in its studded history, but first it should determine its third home town -- one better equipped and suited than San Antonio.

If you are in SA, why don't you fucking leave?

[CosmicCowboy]

Im pretty sure NBA players dont judge a city by the quality of the gay bars like the op.

[Ginobilly]

I was with you until your last few sentences.

Location choice was pretty poor, obviously downtown would be ideal, but even something on the northside would have been better than the current location. Its odd, because the stadium itself is quit fucking nice, just location sucks. American Airlines Center in Dallas did it right. They are in a prime location right by DART, they have a plaza outside the stadium with bars, restaurants, etc. Makes for a great gameday experience.

Governors don't run cities you stupid fuck :lol. With that said, San Antonio is one of the fastest growing economies of major cities in the country. Trending upwards in population, median salary, job growth, gdp, etc. But keep pushing your false narrative :lol I have only been here 5 years personally, but the city has made great leaps and bounds even since I moved here.

San Antonio sucks if your a young black multimillionaire. Ugly fat bitches that are fatter than wild texas hogs and no legal weed yet. Austin, LA, denver, phoenix, las vegas are all way better than sa.

[RD2191]

San Antonio sucks if your a young black multimillionaire. Ugly fat bitches that are fatter than wild texas hogs and no legal weed yet. Austin, LA, denver, phoenix, las vegas are all way better than sa.

:lol

[Ginobilly]

tbh. You would think SA was fucking shitty like like Cincinnati, Cleveland, STL, or other shit cities in the midwest the way people talk about it here :lol

San antonio is aight. Yeah SA is better than those cities you've mentioned but it aint all that. Plenty of jobs and cheap living is what it has going for it but the city has a "boring" label among young world tourists and celebrities. Yeah its a family oriented conservative city thats good for families due the parks and missions, but SA has ways to go before it could be considered a top class city.

[bigfan]

UNT = breeding ground for morons.

[r0drig0lac]

so Las Vegas Spurs?

[Strategic]

San Antonio’s metro population is more than OKC, Tulsa and the next largest town in Oklahoma, all together.

[Dverde]

Pelicans and Bobcats need to relocate before the Spurs

[Vic Petro]

They have a lease with the arena till 2032.

/thread

[noles1983]

San Antonio sucks if your a young black multimillionaire. Ugly fat bitches that are fatter than wild texas hogs and no legal weed yet. Austin, LA, denver, phoenix, las vegas are all way better than sa.

Funny you mention lack of legal weed and then pump another Texas city in your list :lol Also, have you seen leather skinned desert people? Sure they are skinner but they look like fucking sun baked meth heads. Whatever floats your boat.

[Clipper Nation]

Pelicans and Bobcats need to relocate before the Spurs
No team "needs" to relocate, tbh. Owners who aren't competent enough to make it work in their current market should sell their team to someone who can.

[tholdren]

Tl;dr

OP is a fucking dunce. Go sit in the street.

[cd98]

Just takes one good draft pick to change a team’s forecast. Spurs could draft the next Mitchell or whatever next week. You never know. It only takes one star pick to turn a B.B. team into a playoff team.

[313]

there’s a lot of teams i think that would lose their team before SA.

[Ice009]

How about OP relocates from this message board or from being a Spurs fan?

[Arcadian]

They have a lease with the arena till 2032.

/thread

One would hope they upgrade to a new arena long before that, though. It's already old.

[illusioNtEk]

San Antonio has many beautiful areas.. However East side of Downtown is the ugliest area iv ever seen in any major city... god knows why they wanted the att center there in the middle of a shit hole

[John B]

The Spurs got into the playoffs with all the distractions last season. Knowing that Spurs wouldn’t have Kawhi (if he’s gone) if it’s LMA, and he balled the best in his career last season, or some other talent that FO are bringing in, you know what you got coming into summer camp, tweaking the right pieces together come regular season, Spurs will be in the playoffs no sweat, albeit maybe not a championship team yet cause it takes time. Spurs are the best in developing talents, making players strive at their best natural abilities. Who knows, Kawhi could have been just another Jimmy Butler in another team at best. No disrespect to HOF Tony and Manu, but easily could’ve been just another Andre Miller and Dragic in another team system. Only Iceman, Drob and Duncan were truly legitimate franchise players. The rest were developed to what the team needed at the time. We needed a lockdown perimeter guard, Kawhi. Except his offensive acceleration was also off the charts, which was great because our big three were getting older and needed someone to replace. All I’m saying is I trust Pops and his crew to figure this out and will get the best off Kawhi, if traded, and the draft. I’m sure Pops and FO will have their best work ahead of them, trying to replace a star player and not losing the team to another city. In Pops we trust :flag:

[BackHome]

Tim's long gone, Manu's gone, Parker's soon to be gone and Kawussy is as good as gone. Aldridge will go somewhere else when his contract expires, no doubt. Popovich will retire soon to spend the rest of his widowed days drinking wine and making retarded political rants.

The Spurs will very soon be stuck with a bunch of average young players and scrubs long-term. The "leaders" of the team will be all the Eurotrash wasted on draft and stash players in Europe, most of which never came here or busted out when they did come here. They'll win 25-30 games per year for the foreseeable future, never enough for an impact top draft pick nor competing for a playoff berth.

Soon, very soon, the AT&T Center arena emptiness will become a HUGE thing, in a way it never has before, not just in a "early third quarter at Whataburger" kind of way. Ex-fans that were diehards during the 1991-2016 heyday will not show up. Attendance will drop well below pre-David Robinson figures. There will be empty seats all over the stadium, and dollar seats will become a thing just like the SA Missions games. Even with the dollar seats, there will be a lot of emptiness.

The bottom line: SA just isn't a good enough city to support a struggling franchise or team in today's generation. The priorities just aren't there for the culture of the town of SA (unlike, say, another small market team in OKC). The metro area isn't big enough, and the support for the team outside of the 210 area code is virtually nonexistent (unlike, say, another small market team like the Green Bay Packers of the NFL). 1999-2014 (really, 1991-2016) was an amazing run for the city and the franchise, but the song has been sung, the book has been written and it is time for it to be closed for good.

In order to do what's best in the name of business, revenue and common sense, this soon-to-be struggling franchise should strongly consider relocating sooner rather than later. It has been ten years since Seattle has lost their team, and that would be a terrific option for relocation, as that city has yearned for their return since 2008. Other viable options include potentially Kansas City, St. Louis, San Diego, or even Vegas who just had an extremely successful season with their first ever pro sports team (hockey). There are countless possibilities. Ultimately, this franchise, founded in Dallas in the early 1970s, should seek to start a new great chapter in its studded history, but first it should determine its third home town -- one better equipped and suited than San Antonio.

Click Bait - but it tells me you got no fucking life to spend time writing such a long piece of shit click bait. Lol Live life bro it’s short - Leave your moms house it will make her happy and u proud.

[Seventyniner]

San Antonio has many beautiful areas.. However East side of Downtown is the ugliest area iv ever seen in any major city... god knows why they wanted the att center there in the middle of a shit hole

From what I remember, it was politics. But I don't know the details.

[Ginobilly]

Funny you mention lack of legal weed and then pump another Texas city in your list :lol Also, have you seen leather skinned desert people? Sure they are skinner but they look like fucking sun baked meth heads. Whatever floats your boat.


Even though austin is in texas where its still illegal, weed is way easier to get in austin than SA. I was working up in austin a couple of years and had no problem getting good cali dro from some black hipster working on 6th street on my first day living there. Try doing that in SA in your looking to get robbed or shot by orejon gangbangers, arrested, etc. Unless you know people who know people, you aint having a good 420 time in san antonio.

[goliath]

This narrative is so played out. The Spurs have a lease with the county until 2032. The county just spent $1 million to upgrade the att center. Yeah the county just spent a million dollars but will let the spurs out of their lease out of the kindness of their hearts.

[dbestpro]

You don't know San Antonio. Let me tell you what will really happen should the Spurs start to be an average or losing team. The wealthy, pinky extended, tea sippers will not come to the games, but what you can expect would be the return of the nasty, angry, ballbusters to the sidelines that made the Spurs and kept them as a feared destination for opposing teams before the Robinson era.

[apalisoc_9]

Agreed with Op. Would benefit the NBA if smaller market teams are moved to bigger markets.

[daslicer]

This narrative is really played out. The Spurs will never leave SA, every game is still a fucking sell out, deal with it faggots.

It's weak trolling material by these idiots who are desperate to troll knowing that if Kawhi gets traded there won't be much left to troll about.

[dbestpro]

Agreed with Op. Would benefit the NBA if smaller market teams are moved to bigger markets.

I agree. We should put a team in LA or NY.

[lefty20]

I'm sure Chicago can handle a 2nd team. Just putting it out there.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Location choice was pretty poor, obviously downtown would be ideal, but even something on the northside would have been better than the current location. Its odd, because the stadium itself is quit fucking nice, just location sucks. American Airlines Center in Dallas did it right. They are in a prime location right by DART, they have a plaza outside the stadium with bars, restaurants, etc. Makes for a great gameday experience.

Agree on the location. The east side is a shithole full of the same type of worthless hoboes you find in Deep Ellum, Dallas, Cleveland, Oakland, or Lagos, Nigeria.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

From what I remember, it was politics. But I don't know the details.

It was a very shitty attempt at gentrification. Definitely, something downtown or on the north side would have been best. There's not a lot of great options though, because the south side and south west side are just as shitty as the east side, only with trashy mexicans instead of trashy blacks.

[dbestpro]

It was a very shitty attempt at gentrification. Definitely, something downtown or on the north side would have been best. There's not a lot of great options though, because the south side and south west side are just as shitty as the east side, only with trashy mexicans instead of trashy blacks.

I would disagree. Until you have been in homes of people who live in these locations you do not know. Yes, many are poor, but there are no more trashy people on the south side than there are on the north side. In fact I think there are more on the north side.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

If you are in SA, why don't you fucking leave?

Welcome to August 2013, bro. :lol


As a senior in high school (2012-13), I told my mom there's no way I was staying in SA for college. At the time I'd rather have gone to Prairie View than UTSA. Ended up choosing UNT Denton to get as far away from SA as possible without losing the in-state tuition thingy.

Though I did go back to SA for Christmas breaks and 1 ½ summers, including the full summer of 2014 which was obviously worth it for many reasons. Took classes at Northwest Vista College that summer (transferred them back to UNT), got free coffee at two different Valero's close to NVC on a class day immediately after the Spurs won their final championship. Being in SA for "Drive for 5, Finished Business" was one of the best memories of my life, better than losing my virginity or delivering my HS valedictorian speech.

But like a great TV series, if it goes on too long it will water down the team's history and make it stale. Like ordering ten lobster tails instead of three; by the fifth one, you get tired of lobster. I suggest they start anew in a different city with a different name and mascot.

[Pavlov]

It was a very shitty attempt at gentrification.No it wasn't.

You don't know anything about the arena at all.

[Pavlov]

One would hope they upgrade to a new arena long before that, though. It's already old.What is it lacking aside from a better location?

[UNT Eagles 2016]

SA is the best city in Texas. Not a bad place at all to work 9 months of the year then take the private jet to the offseason home somewhere more yankee.

SA is the best city in Texas... if you enjoy 90 degree Thanksgivings and having to blast the AC so the kids don't get too hot on Christmas morning. Tornado scares all year round and even at night.

Nope, I prefer DFW, where winter and snow days are actually a thing and at least the tornadoes are predictable... yep, 3-7 pm on a humid unstable day and only late March thru early June.

[gambit1990]

if spurs are going total rebuild i do think it would make sense for them to relocate.

no td, manu, kawhi with la probably wanting out too...

seattle is hungry for basketball team, they wouldn't expect to contend right away and would be okay with that.

ticket sales are not going to look good here if spurs go full rebuild.



and year after year people already justifiably mock our home crowd :lol

[Vic Petro]

One would hope they upgrade to a new arena long before that, though. It's already old.

It’s only 16 years old...

[UNT Eagles 2016]

I would disagree. Until you have been in homes of people who live in these locations you do not know. Yes, many are poor, but there are no more trashy people on the south side than there are on the north side. In fact I think there are more on the north side.

:lol Dude, I went to school on the south side for 8th grade because my mom taught there. Was the only white kid to graduate from Zamora Middle School in Spring 2009. Was frequently picked on because I was smart, white, and didn't say "c*nt" or "pussy" every other sentence. Every other month someone got pregnant... my mom worked there, so I would know... and this was MIDDLE SCHOOL. Even girls I had crushes on, randomly got pregnant. And Zamora was the best middle school in South San. Dwight and the rest were much worse. I have first hand experience, and you know what else? My mom lived on the south side for 3 years as a teenager with one of my grandmother's abusive ex boyfriends.

As for the East side, I've never spent significant time there, but my mom did have to go to the teacher's workshop facility (Region 20) -- on some Saturdays -- which was located near AT&T Center. I went with her a few times to try to learn something, I guess? That area is awful. Jim street, Tom street and I forget the rest. The houses look like little shacks with wire fences, overgrown lawns and paint peeling off. Old black men limping around in rags begging for money. That's no place to build an NBA stadium, at all.

For the North side... like, 410 and 281 intersection area? That's probably the best part of SA, maybe along with the far northwest and far northeast sides (though the NE is getting too many blacks these days, though they are the most affluent blacks by far in the metro area). I-410 on the north side is where all the actual jobs are, all the tech jobs, finance jobs, office jobs for you know, actual civilized adults? There aren't a lot of good jobs in SA, but those that are... Lockheed Martin, Rackspace, USAA and the like... are all on the north side.

[Pavlov]

:lol dem San Antonio tornadoes gon getcha

[Vic Petro]

Tampa, Seattle, St Louis, Pittsbugh, Baltimore, Nashville. These are the only markets bigger than San Antonio without an NBA team, and Baltimore and Nashville are only marginally bigger.

Utah, New Orleans, Milwaukee, OKC, Memphis are all smaller markets than San Antonio.

[noles1983]

Yeah OP with tornados wtf. Been here 20 years and haven't seen 1 fucking tornado in my area. Also you left off half a dozen other fortune 150 companies like Valero, NuStar and HEB. What a clown.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

wtf? have you been to SA? also, tornados?

http://www.tornadoalleyarmor.com/locations/dallas/texas-tornado-facts


Tornado "Hot Spots" in Texas
http://www.tornadoalleyarmor.com/images/stories/TX_top_ten.jpg

I grew up in SA, duh. Also, this is the long term list from 1950, I'm talking about more recently, since tornado alley has moved south due to climate change. Not denying whatsoever there are more tornadoes near Houston or even up here, but I do recall there being random tornadoes at night in weird months like October and January in SA when I was in high school 2011 and 2012, and a bad one struck SA and took out a whole street of houses (Linda street?) as recently as 2016 (I believe).

I don't worry too much about tornadoes when they're supposed to happen, from 3-7 pm in the springtime, because they're something you expect... but at night and in the fall or winter time? Those are the ones that kill people in droves because they come out of the blue.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Tampa, Seattle, St Louis, Pittsbugh, Baltimore, Nashville. These are the only markets bigger than San Antonio without an NBA team, and Baltimore and Nashville are only marginally bigger.

Utah, New Orleans, Milwaukee, OKC, Memphis are all smaller markets than San Antonio.

Damn, forgot Pittsburgh. Why don't they have an NBA team? Allegheny, PA area is pretty fucking huge.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Yeah OP with tornados wtf. Been here 20 years and haven't seen 1 fucking tornado in my area. Also you left off half a dozen other fortune 150 companies like Valero, NuStar and HEB. What a clown.

Do I need to list all the companies with large HQ campuses in Plano, TX alone? And that's not even counting all the ones in Richardson near CityLine, Irving near Las Colinas, Westlake, or Downtown Dallas (which I wouldn't work there anyway, but that's beside the point).

[Pavlov]

Yeah OP with tornados wtf. Been here 20 years and haven't seen 1 fucking tornado in my area. Also you left off half a dozen other fortune 150 companies like Valero, NuStar and HEB. What a clown.They come from the east side and getcha at night!

Bottom line: OP is stupefyingly ignorant. Arena was built on county land after the city dropped the ball on a better downtown location. SS&E has one of the best arena deals in the NBA and will still make money even if the Spurs don't sell 99% of their seats like they did this past season. That deal lasts for another 15 years or so; there's no need for them to look elsewhere until then.

[dbestpro]

:lol Dude, I went to school on the south side for 8th grade because my mom taught there. Was the only white kid to graduate from Zamora Middle School in Spring 2009. Was frequently picked on because I was smart, white, and didn't say "c*nt" or "pussy" every other sentence. Every other month someone got pregnant... my mom worked there, so I would know... and this was MIDDLE SCHOOL. Even girls I had crushes on, randomly got pregnant. And Zamora was the best middle school in South San. Dwight and the rest were much worse. I have first hand experience, and you know what else? My mom lived on the south side for 3 years as a teenager with one of my grandmother's abusive ex boyfriends.

As for the East side, I've never spent significant time there, but my mom did have to go to the teacher's workshop facility (Region 20) -- on some Saturdays -- which was located near AT&T Center. I went with her a few times to try to learn something, I guess? That area is awful. Jim street, Tom street and I forget the rest. The houses look like little shacks with wire fences, overgrown lawns and paint peeling off. Old black men limping around in rags begging for money. That's no place to build an NBA stadium, at all.

For the North side... like, 410 and 281 intersection area? That's probably the best part of SA, maybe along with the far northwest and far northeast sides (though the NE is getting too many blacks these days, though they are the most affluent blacks by far in the metro area). I-410 on the north side is where all the actual jobs are, all the tech jobs, finance jobs, office jobs for you know, actual civilized adults? There aren't a lot of good jobs in SA, but those that are... Lockheed Martin, Rackspace, USAA and the like... are all on the north side.

Your skin color should not matter. If anything you make yourself look bad by thinking you need to point to that. Now, take a look at what has happened to Brooks City Base, and all the money that is pouring into Pleasanton from the eagle Ford is bleeding into the south side. The most comfortable theater remains on the South side and the mall is full or real people rather than brand bandwagonners like on the north side. People are kind and talkative. Everything you experienced at Zamora could just as easily happened at Alamo Heights, but they do a better job at hiding their baggage. Drugs run rampant and my son has had 6 friends commit suicide over the last 10 years who came all grew up in Alamo Heights often considered the best school on the northside.
These issues are no different in any city or any school. It seems like you have developed a false prejudice against the people and area you grew up with to use as an excuse for any short comings you have in life and come in here to throw the southside under the bus to help justify that position in your own mind.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

They come from the east side and getcha at night!

Bottom line: OP is stupefyingly ignorant. Arena was built on county land after the city dropped the ball on a better downtown location. SS&E has one of the best arena deals in the NBA and will still make money even if the Spurs don't sell 99% of their seats like they did this past season. That deal lasts for another 15 years or so; there's no need for them to look elsewhere until then.
Clay Bennett didn't find the existing lease an insurmountable obstruction to his plans, huh? So why should the Spurs, and their gay cheerleaders (:lol SS&E)???

Nope, tornadoes don't come from the east, unless they're coming from a landfalling hurricane/tropical storm. Do you know anything about meteorology? Low pressure troughs always move in from west to east in the Northern Hemisphere.

[noles1983]

Do I need to list all the companies with large HQ campuses in Plano, TX alone? And that's not even counting all the ones in Richardson near CityLine, Irving near Las Colinas, Westlake, or Downtown Dallas (which I wouldn't work there anyway, but that's beside the point).

Dont be mad because you got called out for saying SA doesn't have jobs. I also like how you use DFW as an example, of course DFW has more jobs its like 3 fucking cities combined. SA/Austin has plenty of jobs if you want to play that game.

[bdictjames]

The Spurs have been here since what, the 60s, 70s? It went through the late 80's fine, it's going to get through this. Pop and RC will make sure this franchise survives, I'm sure, and the city just embraces it as it's their only team.

[noles1983]

What can we gather from OP? That he has shit takes, starts shit threads and couldnt get into UTSA so he left to some random ass obscure college and hates SA because of it.

[daslicer]

Your skin color should not matter. If anything you make yourself look bad by thinking you need to point to that. Now, take a look at what has happened to Brooks City Base, and all the money that is pouring into Pleasanton from the eagle Ford is bleeding into the south side. The most comfortable theater remains on the South side and the mall is full or real people rather than brand bandwagonners like on the north side. People are kind and talkative. Everything you experienced at Zamora could just as easily happened at Alamo Heights, but they do a better job at hiding their baggage. Drugs run rampant and my son has had 6 friends commit suicide over the last 10 years who came all grew up in Alamo Heights often considered the best school on the northside.
These issues are no different in any city or any school. It seems like you have developed a false prejudice against the people and area you grew up with to use as an excuse for any short comings you have in life and come in here to throw the southside under the bus to help justify that position in your own mind.

This is the same guy who claimed a few years ago that Indians were the reasons why he couldn't get an IT job because they were stealing opportunities from him.

[CosmicCowboy]

The ATT is where it is because there wouldnt be Spurs in San Antonio if the county hadnt bailed them out after the city council couldnt get it done. County already owned the land (100 contiguous acres not in a flood plain is hard to find) and they needed the rodeo support to get the bond issue passed.

As for all the bitching that you dont see people in the lower level on tv, that because they are in the corporate suites behind them scarfing down food and drinks and watching the game on 75" oleds. The ticket situation will be fine. Nobody is giving up their season tickets just because of a couple average seasons.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Your skin color should not matter. If anything you make yourself look bad by thinking you need to point to that. Now, take a look at what has happened to Brooks City Base, and all the money that is pouring into Pleasanton from the eagle Ford is bleeding into the south side. The most comfortable theater remains on the South side and the mall is full or real people rather than brand bandwagonners like on the north side. People are kind and talkative. Everything you experienced at Zamora could just as easily happened at Alamo Heights, but they do a better job at hiding their baggage. Drugs run rampant and my son has had 6 friends commit suicide over the last 10 years who came all grew up in Alamo Heights often considered the best school on the northside.
These issues are no different in any city or any school. It seems like you have developed a false prejudice against the people and area you grew up with to use as an excuse for any short comings you have in life and come in here to throw the southside under the bus to help justify that position in your own mind.
Let's not deny it though, the south side is 97% Hispanic (2009 figures), teen pregnancy is among the highest in the state, and South San High School has long been known as the "dropout factory". I couldn't make this up.

I'm not denying that drugs don't run rampant everywhere. Even in affluent apartments in Frisco, TX, I witnessed a few people smoking cannabis joints the other day. It's bad news and it's rampant everywhere.

Mexicans from down south may be kind and talkative, but they're also very likely to be quite obese AND on food stamps... see any problem with that? Food stamps (including SNAP, Lone Star Card) should be denied to anyone over a healthy BMI, truth be told. Same goes for Food Bank and food pantries. There needs to be more regulations and barriers to entry for moochers to steal taxpayer money like that.

[Pavlov]

Clay Bennett didn't find the existing lease an insurmountable obstruction to his plans, huh? So why should the Spurs, and their gay cheerleaders (:lol SS&E)???You mean after the previous owner tried to get the city to renovate the exiting arena, failed and sold the team to the Bennett group? :lol do you not know what SS&E means?


Nope, tornadoes don't come from the east, unless they're coming from a landfalling hurricane/tropical storm. Do you know anything about meteorology? Low pressure troughs always move in from west to east in the Northern Hemisphere.That was a joke, you idiot.

[RD2191]

Let's not deny it though, the south side is 97% Hispanic (2009 figures), teen pregnancy is among the highest in the state, and South San High School has long been known as the "dropout factory". I couldn't make this up.

I'm not denying that drugs don't run rampant everywhere. Even in affluent apartments in Frisco, TX, I witnessed a few people smoking cannabis joints the other day. It's bad news and it's rampant everywhere.

Mexicans from down south may be kind and talkative, but they're also very likely to be quite obese AND on food stamps... see any problem with that? Food stamps (including SNAP, Lone Star Card) should be denied to anyone over a healthy BMI, truth be told. Same goes for Food Bank and food pantries. There needs to be more regulations and barriers to entry for moochers to steal taxpayer money like that.

Great post. Especially that last part.

[Pavlov]

Even in affluent apartments in Frisco, TX, I witnessed a few people smoking cannabis joints the other dayhttps://www.memecreator.org/static/images/memes/3739668.jpg

[BackHome]

Welcome to August 2013, bro. :lol


As a senior in high school (2012-13), I told my mom there's no way I was staying in SA for college. At the time I'd rather have gone to Prairie View than UTSA. Ended up choosing UNT Denton to get as far away from SA as possible without losing the in-state tuition thingy.

Though I did go back to SA for Christmas breaks and 1 ½ summers, including the full summer of 2014 which was obviously worth it for many reasons. Took classes at Northwest Vista College that summer (transferred them back to UNT), got free coffee at two different Valero's close to NVC on a class day immediately after the Spurs won their final championship. Being in SA for "Drive for 5, Finished Business" was one of the best memories of my life, better than losing my virginity or delivering my HS valedictorian speech.

But like a great TV series, if it goes on too long it will water down the team's history and make it stale. Like ordering ten lobster tails instead of three; by the fifth one, you get tired of lobster. I suggest they start anew in a different city with a different name and mascot.

That made no fucking sense dude get your money back from what ever college you went to cause you got robbed.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

lol dfw even being in a conversation about best texas city. maybe best oklahoma city

arguments can be made for houston and perhaps austin. everything else too small or out in the bufu (el paso)

:lmao

Houston is Chicago South, but worse. Similar demographics, too. There's a reason H-town is known as the "hood" of the country, and definitely the state. Not to mention the weather there is among the worst in the world, much less the country. Most tornadoes, absolutely oppressive heat and humidity, flooding threat all year round, big hurricane threat every summer... yeah.

Austin is the other Seattle. Hipsterism, Bernie-ism, communism, progressivism reigns supreme. Drug use, especially acid and marijuana, runs rampant. If you're not a far-left bleeding heart liberal you're run out of town quickly for being a "bigoted right-wing hater". There's plenty of tech jobs in Austin, and they pay pretty well, too, but good luck finding an apartment to yourself for under $1400 a month. Like Seattle, most millennials there are forced to live in Dickensian conditions, with roommates sharing bathrooms, kitchens and even bedrooms.

DFW is Texas. As in, Texas as it should be and has been from the late 1800s up until the Mexican re-invasion. Embodies quality Southern culture and good values. Where else are you going to find beautiful white women in droves in a large Texas city?

[dbestpro]

Let's not deny it though, the south side is 97% Hispanic (2009 figures), teen pregnancy is among the highest in the state, and South San High School has long been known as the "dropout factory". I couldn't make this up.

I'm not denying that drugs don't run rampant everywhere. Even in affluent apartments in Frisco, TX, I witnessed a few people smoking cannabis joints the other day. It's bad news and it's rampant everywhere.

Mexicans from down south may be kind and talkative, but they're also very likely to be quite obese AND on food stamps... see any problem with that? Food stamps (including SNAP, Lone Star Card) should be denied to anyone over a healthy BMI, truth be told. Same goes for Food Bank and food pantries. There needs to be more regulations and barriers to entry for moochers to steal taxpayer money like that.

First off, this is 2018. A lot has changed in 9 years. Second, I don't give a damn about what race lives on the south side. Show me where you get these recent stats on teen pregnancy because that is an issue for the whole state, (5th highest in the country). I do not like calling people racist, but your constant berating of Hispanics is making it real hard to not go there.

[Pavlov]

Austin is the other Seattle. Hipsterism, Bernie-ism, communism, progressivism reigns supreme. Drug use, especially acid and marijuana, runs rampant. If you're not a far-left bleeding heart liberal you're run out of town quickly for being a "bigoted right-wing hater". There's plenty of tech jobs in Austin, and they pay pretty well, too, but good luck finding an apartment to yourself for under $1400 a month. Like Seattle, most millennials there are forced to live in Dickensian conditions, with roommates sharing bathrooms, kitchens and even bedrooms.:lol You've never spent any time here. You just read the Breitbart travel guide.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

That made no fucking sense dude get your money back from what ever college you went to cause you got robbed.
Robbed? Nope. Try opportunities for jobs you'll never dream of because of the degree, because you know, companies actually do background checks and one of the main things they verify is education. If you don't have the hardware, you don't get the job, plain and simple.

[Clipper Nation]

Damn, forgot Pittsburgh. Why don't they have an NBA team? Allegheny, PA area is pretty fucking huge.
Three pro teams are already a lot for a market the size of Pittsburgh. Four is probably pushing it.

[noles1983]

First off, this is 2018. A lot has changed in 9 years. Second, I don't give a damn about what race lives on the south side. Show me where you get these recent stats on teen pregnancy because that is an issue for the whole state, (5th highest in the country). I do not like calling people racist, but your constant berating of Hispanics is making it real hard to not go there.

Just another Trump supporting racist it seems. Queue the "I'm not racist, I have (insert minority here) friends" response.

[dbestpro]

Robbed? Nope. Try opportunities for jobs you'll never dream of because of the degree, because you know, companies actually do background checks and one of the main things they verify is education. If you don't have the hardware, you don't get the job, plain and simple.

So you live a life looking to work for someone else. That explains a lot.

[Pavlov]

Robbed? Nope. Try opportunities for jobs you'll never dream of because of the degree, because you know, companies actually do background checks and one of the main things they verify is education. If you don't have the hardware, you don't get the job, plain and simple.But the Indians.

[DMC]

Though I love San Antonio, I am surprised it can keep a professional sports team. But OP is a faggot. You'd think guitardude27 would have matured a bit instead of just sucking more cock as he aged.

[BD24]

San Antonio sucks if your a young black multimillionaire. Ugly fat bitches that are fatter than wild texas hogs and no legal weed yet. Austin, LA, denver, phoenix, las vegas are all way better than sa.
There is plenty of fine ass chicks on the north side. What you think Kawhi is going hunting for fat mexican chicks on the south side :lol

Nothing wrong with Austin being better than SA, hell Austin has been declared the best place in the country to live the last two years. No shame in being behind it. LOL at Phoenix or Vegas being better :lol. Vegas is a good place to visit for the weekend, but a shitty place to live tbh. Denver is debatable, its a cool city, but its also cold as fuck in the winter, I'm not about that life.

I doubt you have been to many of the mentioned cities, hard for me to take a dumb ass that thinks governors run cities seriously tbh.

[dbestpro]

You guys need to go to the mall on the south side, take a seat and just watch for about 20 minutes. Those women are in shape and look as good as any in Texas. The idea of all of these fat chicks tell me you'all been spending too much time at Whataburger.

[BD24]

:lol dem San Antonio tornadoes gon getcha
Jesus fuck just saw this :lol

[Biggems]

SA is the best city in Texas... if you enjoy 90 degree Thanksgivings and having to blast the AC so the kids don't get too hot on Christmas morning. Tornado scares all year round and even at night.

Nope, I prefer DFW, where winter and snow days are actually a thing and at least the tornadoes are predictable... yep, 3-7 pm on a humid unstable day and only late March thru early June.

Predictable my glutes

[BD24]

lol dfw even being in a conversation about best texas city. maybe best oklahoma city

arguments can be made for houston and perhaps austin. everything else too small or out in the bufu (el paso)
My personal ranking

1. Austin, its really not close either
2. I flip flop between DFW/San Antonio for the number two spot. Both are pretty fantastic cities, depends if you want a true metroplex or the small large city feeling.
4. Houston.

After those 4 it doesn't fucking matter tbh.

[DAF86]

:lol City relocations
:lol American sports
:lol soulless capitalist pigs

[UNT Eagles 2016]

:lol City relocations
:lol American sports
:lol soulless capitalist pigs
:lol sentimentalists
:lol povertyball
:lol communist faggot twerps

[Jdspur20]

Tim's long gone, Manu's gone, Parker's soon to be gone and Kawussy is as good as gone. Aldridge will go somewhere else when his contract expires, no doubt. Popovich will retire soon to spend the rest of his widowed days drinking wine and making retarded political rants.

The Spurs will very soon be stuck with a bunch of average young players and scrubs long-term. The "leaders" of the team will be all the Eurotrash wasted on draft and stash players in Europe, most of which never came here or busted out when they did come here. They'll win 25-30 games per year for the foreseeable future, never enough for an impact top draft pick nor competing for a playoff berth.

Soon, very soon, the AT&T Center arena emptiness will become a HUGE thing, in a way it never has before, not just in a "early third quarter at Whataburger" kind of way. Ex-fans that were diehards during the 1991-2016 heyday will not show up. Attendance will drop well below pre-David Robinson figures. There will be empty seats all over the stadium, and dollar seats will become a thing just like the SA Missions games. Even with the dollar seats, there will be a lot of emptiness.

The bottom line: SA just isn't a good enough city to support a struggling franchise or team in today's generation. The priorities just aren't there for the culture of the town of SA (unlike, say, another small market team in OKC). The metro area isn't big enough, and the support for the team outside of the 210 area code is virtually nonexistent (unlike, say, another small market team like the Green Bay Packers of the NFL). 1999-2014 (really, 1991-2016) was an amazing run for the city and the franchise, but the song has been sung, the book has been written and it is time for it to be closed for good.

In order to do what's best in the name of business, revenue and common sense, this soon-to-be struggling franchise should strongly consider relocating sooner rather than later. It has been ten years since Seattle has lost their team, and that would be a terrific option for relocation, as that city has yearned for their return since 2008. Other viable options include potentially Kansas City, St. Louis, San Diego, or even Vegas who just had an extremely successful season with their first ever pro sports team (hockey). There are countless possibilities. Ultimately, this franchise, founded in Dallas in the early 1970s, should seek to start a new great chapter in its studded history, but first it should determine its third home town -- one better equipped and suited than San Antonio.


Go hang yourself.

[Ginobilly]

There is plenty of fine ass chicks on the north side. What you think Kawhi is going hunting for fat mexican chicks on the south side :lol

Nothing wrong with Austin being better than SA, hell Austin has been declared the best place in the country to live the last two years. No shame in being behind it. LOL at Phoenix or Vegas being better :lol. Vegas is a good place to visit for the weekend, but a shitty place to live tbh. Denver is debatable, its a cool city, but its also cold as fuck in the winter, I'm not about that life.

I doubt you have been to many of the mentioned cities, hard for me to take a dumb ass that thinks governors run cities seriously tbh.

Of course theres plenty of good chicks in the north side but pale in comparison to other white girls in other major cities. Also, white blonde chicks aint all that. I perfer Mediterranean women like italian gals.

Your a fuckin pendejo if you think i meant the actual state governor when i said "gov" in my previous post.
:lol

[Ginobilly]

You guys need to go to the mall on the south side, take a seat and just watch for about 20 minutes. Those women are in shape and look as good as any in Texas. The idea of all of these fat chicks tell me you'all been spending too much time at Whataburger.

You obviously been hanging out with avante:lol
The only in shape women in the south side are 15-18 yrs old teens who are in shape because their young and probably in school sports. After graduating, its balloning to 200+ lbs and shitting out a couple of kids. Ill give some of those white girls props from the northside. A lot more of them care about health and fitness compared to south,east side chicks.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Of course theres plenty of good chicks in the north side but pale in comparison to other white girls in other major cities. Also, white blonde chicks aint all that. I perfer Mediterranean women like italian gals.

Your a fuckin pendejo if you think i meant the actual state governor when i said "gov" in my previous post.
:lol
I like both honestly. Depends on the day and the girl. When I lived in Manhattan for a few weeks earlier this spring, I saw an absolute plethora of hot 20-something aged girls/women that you can't dream of seeing in Texas. Part of it is the Italians, yes. They're in crazy good shape and it's almost unfair. There was this one Italian girl named Alyssa, lived in one of the apts a floor above me... yeah, she was gorgeous and friendly, too. Problem with Italian New York chicks is they tend to only want to date guys who are cool with spending big chunks of money, and that's definitely NOT me.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

You obviously been hanging out with avante:lol
The only in shape women in the south side are 15-18 yrs old teens who are in shape because their young and probably in school sports. After graduating, its balloning to 200+ lbs and shitting out a couple of kids. Ill give some of those white girls props from the northside. A lot more of them care about health and fitness compared to south,east side chicks.

This is the absolute truth. My facebook proves it. All the girls I've had on as "friends" that were hot when I was in high school and they were in high school, are 40+ pounds bigger and about half of them have a child or more now.

[CosmicCowboy]

If DFW is so fucking great, why arent all the NBA superstars beatin the door down to play for the Mavs?

[Budkin]

Piss off twat.

[BD24]

:lmao

Houston is Chicago South, but worse. Similar demographics, too. There's a reason H-town is known as the "hood" of the country, and definitely the state. Not to mention the weather there is among the worst in the world, much less the country. Most tornadoes, absolutely oppressive heat and humidity, flooding threat all year round, big hurricane threat every summer... yeah.

Austin is the other Seattle. Hipsterism, Bernie-ism, communism, progressivism reigns supreme. Drug use, especially acid and marijuana, runs rampant. If you're not a far-left bleeding heart liberal you're run out of town quickly for being a "bigoted right-wing hater". There's plenty of tech jobs in Austin, and they pay pretty well, too, but good luck finding an apartment to yourself for under $1400 a month. Like Seattle, most millennials there are forced to live in Dickensian conditions, with roommates sharing bathrooms, kitchens and even bedrooms.

DFW is Texas. As in, Texas as it should be and has been from the late 1800s up until the Mexican re-invasion. Embodies quality Southern culture and good values. Where else are you going to find beautiful white women in droves in a large Texas city?
Wrong
Wrong again
Wrong again
Wrong again

No one wonder you are team MAGA, just like to hero you just like to make up "facts" as you go :lol

[toki9]

Problem with Italian New York chicks is they tend to only want to date guys who are cool with spending big chunks of money, and that's definitely NOT me.

Wow...

[SpursDynasty85]

Weren't the Spurs considered the model franchise every year except this year? Were we not easily 3rd best in the west before a litany of injuries (not just Kawhi). Our fan base is so loyal the majority of them supports franchise vs the star player. SA and Texas are respectively one of the largest growing cities and states currently. Currently have some cap room to work with and some trade value in Kawhi. Popovich still holds weight. What credible source is there that the franchise would even consider moving?