VAR

[diego]

Admittedly I havent watched many full games, but it seems to me that already VAR is a joke. In brasil - swiss game, a foul before the swiss goal and a clear penalty for brasil not called; argentina should have gotten another penalty against iceland as well (the one they called didnt look like one to me, didnt get a chance to see the replay so maybe its fine overall). Mexico should have gotten a penalty vs germany, player clearly pulled down by the shoulders inside the box. So far its only european teams getting VAR calls, and south americans getting stupid explanations about how the VAR can only come in if the ref didnt see the play... are you telling me the ref of france and australia didnt see the tackle that became france's pk? he signalled to play on right there in the box!

i cant believe that on an NBA message board people thought VAR would help...

[DAF86]

To me it's clear that they only want to use VAR when the call is absolutely clear. If it can be somewhat argued, they won't use it.

[Jodelo]

To me it's clear that they only want to use VAR when the call is absolutely clear. If it can be somewhat argued, they won't use it.

This. Needs to be a 100% wrong decision or the call stands.

[140]

VAR is trash tbh, I've said from the start

[hater]

Problem is who picks whch plays to officially review? This can be easily used to influence games

They need to give 2 challenges to each team and let them bring the plays up

[DAF86]

Problem is who picks whch plays to officially review? This can be easily used to influence games

They need to give 2 challenges to each team and let them bring the plays up

Yeah, that might be better and more transparent than the current system.

[Canyonero]

VAR, huh, yeah
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing

[Spurtacular]

Here's what's wrong with it:

1. They tell AR's to keep the flag down if it's close. But then like on the second Belgium goal in which the guy's shoulder was offside, they didn't have the balls to reverse it. I wouldn't have wanted to reverse it on nitpicking either. Maybe have the AR flag it if he sees it and let play continue unless the ref blows his whistle. Then if you do the review and it's a nose or toe offside, then it doesn't feel anal to stand by the call.

2. Yea, two or three PK calls stand out for me; but I don't remember the teams now. The first the player kicked it too far away, so he slowed his momentum and got his leg under the sliding defender's leg to make it look like he was taken down. The ref called it on the video review. It was trash. On the second, the player scissor kicked the guy after tipping away the ball. It's debatable whether that is what really happened or if the guy sort of allowed himself to get caught after he had lost the ball. To the ref's credit, he didn't call it on VAR. But there's gonna be a call in which the ref does call it. Honestly, I see big drawbacks in calling PKs after the fact on review. Teams are gonna get eliminated on this stuff. I don't mind VAR verifying PK calls; but searching for them after they're not called in real time is a political road they're going down.

[hater]

Portugal and amorocco another bullshit VAR non check on Ronaldos goal

:lmao VAR easily manipulated to control games

[DAF86]

Portugal and amorocco another bullshit VAR non check on Ronaldos goal

:lmao VAR easily manipulated to control games

What was there to check?

[hater]

What was there to check?

Foul on an Moroccan defender. Dude got trampled on and ball easily got to Ronaldo

[Spurtacular]

Foul on an Moroccan defender. Dude got trampled on and ball easily got to Ronaldo

Vid?

[hater]

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[hater]

1009408271675940865

Obvious foul

:lmao VAR

:lol FIFA

:lmao asterisk cup

[Spurtacular]

1009408271675940865

Obvious foul

:lmao VAR

:lol FIFA

:lmao asterisk cup

FIFA cheating to get their superstar to the final. That's what was going on in 14 with Messi/Argentina, too. Nothing new.

[apalisoc_9]

Yeah VAR is awful.

They need to give teams one challenge per game.

[hater]

Yeah VAR is awful.

They need to give teams one challenge per game.

One per half would be excelnt

Each Teams can have a couple guys watching replays and they can have up to 1 minute to dispute a play

Of course this cup is a huge * now

[dfens]

y'all niggas crazy tbh ... var already helped with some major decisions tbh. of course some idiot refs will misuse but in general it'll be another tool to better and more transparently referee the game. smh y'all niggas brainwashed :lol

[Spurtacular]

First replay showed Kane offside by a half foot on his third goal. VAR replays just backed it up a split second with the ball a foot off the passer's foot. Shit is for the elite teams. :lol

[HarlemHeat37]

VAR was an embarrassment today, getting killed everywhere and rightfully so..

How does Pique not get a red? He didn't even get a yellow:lmao

[apalisoc_9]

VAR was meant to provide transparency but man its the exact opposite.

The big teams are getting handed freebies herem

[pgardn]

First replay showed Kane offside by a half foot on his third goal. VAR replays just backed it up a split second with the ball a foot off the passer's foot. Shit is for the elite teams. :lol

Wrong.

http://www.goal.com/en/lists/world-cup-var-review-kane-scores-hat-trick-neymar-dive-all/1sg2u4hssc69i1wq8x6iiyi7sz#1e0m8ne4f8lt717bhtu0yu3 is3

And wtf did it matter Panama was pitiful.
They are the worst team in the tournament.
They completely suck no matter what.

[apalisoc_9]

I might do a ranking of teams that didnt qualify :lol

[Spurtacular]

Wrong.

http://www.goal.com/en/lists/world-cup-var-review-kane-scores-hat-trick-neymar-dive-all/1sg2u4hssc69i1wq8x6iiyi7sz#1e0m8ne4f8lt717bhtu0yu3 is3

And wtf did it matter Panama was pitiful.
They are the worst team in the tournament.
They completely suck no matter what.

So, the fact checker missed it or otherwise didn't have the balls to make the right call. Kane's shoulder was ahead of the last defender at the time of the ball being played to him. Any part of the body that can legally play the ball is considered for offside.

What does it matter? It actually matters for the Golden Ball. I believe he is tied with Ronaldo in goals now; and actually because he was taken off the field, he owns the tiebreaker for least minutes played; so, yea it matters. Also, it matters in that he joins an exclusive group of persons who have scored a hat trick in the World Cup. Of course, his comes with an asterisk.

[Spurtacular]

I might do a ranking of teams that didnt qualify :lol

You should totally do that so that we have something to laugh at now and especially down the road.

[TDMVPDPOY]

why isnt var used on normal fouls that could lead to cards

instead its more used for whatever happens near or inside the box to score...

[Amuseddaysleeper]

why isnt var used on normal fouls that could lead to cards

instead its more used for whatever happens near or inside the box to score...

Did you not see Var used for Ronaldo weak punch in the Iran game that led to a yellow?

[pgardn]

So, the fact checker missed it or otherwise didn't have the balls to make the right call. Kane's shoulder was ahead of the last defender at the time of the ball being played to him. Any part of the body that can legally play the ball is considered for offside.

What does it matter? It actually matters for the Golden Ball. I believe he is tied with Ronaldo in goals now; and actually because he was taken off the field, he owns the tiebreaker for least minutes played; so, yea it matters. Also, it matters in that he joins an exclusive group of persons who have scored a hat trick in the World Cup. Of course, his comes with an asterisk.

They got the call correct.
You see what you want to see.
Your ability to judge anything is worthless.

When the ball was contacted Kane was onside. It was a crap goal anyway. Kane got a hat trick off a crap goal and two penalties. Wooo whooo....

Meaningless individual number awards. Good for you.

[resistanze]

2 challenges per game, automatic VAR review for all penalties and goals. Done.

[Spurtacular]

They got the call correct.
You see what you want to see.
Your ability to judge anything is worthless.

When the ball was contacted Kane was onside. It was a crap goal anyway. Kane got a hat trick off a crap goal and two penalties. Wooo whooo....

Meaningless individual number awards. Good for you.

Son, grudge posting only makes you ignorant.

On the first replay on Fox, it showed his shoulder clearly offside at the point of the pass (ball on foot). Then on the second replay on the freeze he was even, but the passer's foot was still a foot from the ball. This is simple stuff. Don't talk shit you can't back up; and go watch the replay on the Fox Sports Go app if you need confirmation.

[urunobili]

I like it a lot. Nothing will ever get 100% of the calls right, but this improves the efficiency exponentially.

[HarlemHeat37]

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[DAF86]

There's still things to tighten up, but there should be no doubt that VAR came to bring more justice.

[dfens]

There's still things to tighten up, but there should be no doubt that VAR came to bring more justice.

told y'all sons, another toll to make people accountable. Otherwise we would've gotten away without the goal, this way we don't get to rob other countries.

[diego]

Na, it's still bs.

Compare the penalty that wasnt given to serbia v Switzerland, to the one called on Argentina yesterday.

Or the yellow given to the Mexican in 13seconds today, to Boateng breaking two swedish counterattacks in the first ten minutes, inside and outside the box, without even a common foul called.

[DAF86]

Na, it's still bs.

Compare the penalty that wasnt given to serbia v Switzerland, to the one called on Argentina yesterday.

Or the yellow given to the Mexican in 13seconds today, to Boateng breaking two swedish counterattacks in the first ten minutes, inside and outside the box, without even a common foul called.

Those are interpretation plays. You will get different opinions with or without technology, at least they get to see it over and over again and analyze the plays carefully. With no interpretation plays (like offsides), VAR is an all around success.

There's really no debate to be had. The only flaws VAR has is because of bad application, but that will eventually get solved with experience.

[diego]

No, just no. The Swiss penalty on Gabriel Jesus is a interpretation play. Two Swiss players grabbing and jumping on top of a serb is clear as day. Same with Boateng grabbing swedes shoulder, jersey and throwing him to the ground from behind as the last man.if those aren't fouls then what the fuck is?

[DAF86]

No, just no. The Swiss penalty on Gabriel Jesus is a interpretation play. Two Swiss players grabbing and jumping on top of a serb is clear as day. Same with Boateng grabbing swedes shoulder, jersey and throwing him to the ground from behind as the last man.if those aren't fouls then what the fuck is?

Again: interpretation plays. But I do agree that the plays they decide to check from game to game have been very inconsistent. That's why I think the best thing to do will be to just give teams 2 or 3 challenges each and have them decide which plays get reviewed. That will solve most of the controversies.

[Phenomanul]

Again: interpretation plays. But I do agree that the plays they decide to check from game to game have been very inconsistent. That's why I think the best thing to do will be to just give teams 2 or 3 challenges each and have them decide which plays get reviewed. That will solve most of the controversies.

This.

If the ref is the only one that gets to decide when a review goes to VAR then ultimately you have accomplished nothing. Ref bias cannot be ruled out if only he makes the calls of which play to review.

[Phenomanul]

Na, it's still bs.

Compare the penalty that wasnt given to serbia v Switzerland, to the one called on Argentina yesterday.

Or the yellow given to the Mexican in 13seconds today, to Boateng breaking two swedish counterattacks in the first ten minutes, inside and outside the box, without even a common foul called.

Or the penalty on Hector Moreno. It did not look like a foul.

[diego]

Im on my phone and can't be bothered to format, the link will do, tell me this is an interpretation play with a straight face

https://youtu.be/on1DjHd-DZk

[DAF86]

Im on my phone and can't be bothered to format, the link will do, tell me this is an interpretation play with a straight face

https://youtu.be/on1DjHd-DZk

That's stright murder :lol but is still, technically, an interpretation play. I'm sure that if the ref would have called a penalty there, there would have still been no VAR review. The same with Mashcerano's penalty. If the ref wouldn't have called it, they wouldn't have reviewed it via VAR. So, the problem isn't VAR itself.

Again, the problem is in the application. They should just let teams get challenges, like in the NFL.

[140]

Im on my phone and can't be bothered to format, the link will do, tell me this is an interpretation play with a straight face

https://youtu.be/on1DjHd-DZk
Yeah this was ridiculous. Anyway this interpretation shit only flies without VAR, because you don't know exactly what the ref saw (and I'm fine with it). If VAR is to stay the rules have to be clearer tbh. Can't have two outcomes for the same situation when we are all looking at the same thing as they are. Plus the challenge thing.

[DAF86]

That Costa Rica penalty :lmao

If anything, we need more VAR intervention, tbh.

[dfens]

Na, it's still bs.

Compare the penalty that wasnt given to serbia v Switzerland, to the one called on Argentina yesterday.

Or the yellow given to the Mexican in 13seconds today, to Boateng breaking two swedish counterattacks in the first ten minutes, inside and outside the box, without even a common foul called.

my nig, it's a tool that increases transparency. If the ref is retarded and doesn't use it he gets more exposure as a bad ref. If it's a really monumental call then there is a good chance that VAR is used and it greatly increases the chance of a good call. Without VAR no ref is allowing the korea goal from today tbh. This ain't about perfection, but about more transparency.

[Hoops Czar]

my nig, it's a tool that increases transparency. If the ref is retarded and doesn't use it he gets more exposure as a bad ref. If it's a really monumental call then there is a good chance that VAR is used and it greatly increases the chance of a good call. Without VAR no ref is allowing the korea goal from today tbh. This ain't about perfection, but about more transparency.


Good thing there was no VAR in 1986 for Maradonna's "Hands of God" goal. He'd be an afterthought right now.

[dfens]

Good thing there was no VAR in 1986 for Maradonna's "Hands of God" goal. He'd be an afterthought right now.

so many things would change. England would have no ring for example. At least VAR is a step in the right direction.