ESPN is hurting itself over politics.

[Othyus Lalanne]

https://www.outkickthecoverage.com/wokecenter-2-0-aka-get-wokecenter-3-0-aka-low-noon-hit-ratings-lows/

Get Up and High Noon not doing so good.

Both shows did worse on Friday of last week, with Get Up posting just 196,000 viewers, compared to 339,000 watching SportsCenter last year, down a massive 42% and High Noon posting just 191,000 viewers, down a whopping 54% from last year’s SportsCenter viewership.

[BD24]

The lowered viewership has more to do with people cutting cable than anything. We can pretend it’s politics though. Most people watch streaming services now instead of cable

[Blake]

What's up with the orange text

[spurraider21]

What's up with the orange text
trump derangement syndrome

[Othyus Lalanne]

The lowered viewership has more to do with people cutting cable than anything. We can pretend it’s politics though. Most people watch streaming services now instead of cable

So partisan politics helps to slow down that erosion of the consumer base?

[Spurminator]

It might. Maybe they see the writing on the wall and figure they can retain viewers by appealing to their political anxiety. It works for cable news... hell they basically made politics a sport and have been doing an ESPN impersonation for almost 20 years.

[BD24]

So partisan politics helps to slow down that erosion of the consumer base?
I don’t think it has an effect one way or the other. Pretending that is the reason for declined viewership is funny to me thpugh

[Reck]

The lowered viewership has more to do with people cutting cable than anything. We can pretend it’s politics though. Most people watch streaming services now instead of cable

These are the same people who think the MTV Awards show had high ratings because they didn't bash Trump. :lol

http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2018/06/20/mtv-ratings-shoot-up-with-no-trump-bashing-no-left-wing-politics-and-chris-pratts-reminder-of-gods-grace/

:lol Breitbart

[Spurminator]

I have never even heard of these shows. Maybe people just aren't watching.

[Othyus Lalanne]

It might. Maybe they see the writing on the wall and figure they can retain viewers by appealing to their political anxiety. It works for cable news... hell they basically made politics a sport and have been doing an ESPN impersonation for almost 20 years.

And what would attract them away from Vox.com, MSNBC, CNN?


I don’t think it has an effect one way or the other. Pretending that is the reason for declined viewership is funny to me thpugh
It's funny that you don't think every fringe progressive opinion under the sun promoted by ESPN is great for ratings.

[Spurminator]

And what would attract them away from Vox.com, MSNBC, CNN?

"Slowing down erosion" doesn't involve pulling people from other channels, it involves retaining current viewers.

[Othyus Lalanne]

"Slowing down erosion" doesn't involve pulling people from other channels, it involves retaining current viewers.

How do you retain by politicizing?

[Blake]

It's funny that you don't think every fringe progressive opinion under the sun promoted by ESPN is great for ratings.

So in summary, espn is hurting because of politicizing but politicizing is great for ratings

[Spurminator]

How do you retain by politicizing?


Maybe they see the writing on the wall and figure they can retain viewers by appealing to their political anxiety. It works for cable news... hell they basically made politics a sport and have been doing an ESPN impersonation for almost 20 years.

[Isitjustme?]

So partisan politics helps to slow down that erosion of the consumer base?

Is fox sports viewers going up? If it is then you can make a good case

[Spurtacular]

The lowered viewership has more to do with people cutting cable than anything. We can pretend it’s politics though. Most people watch streaming services now instead of cable

:lol "Pretend"

You alienate the majority of the country or at least enough of them, there's gonna be consequences, son.

[BD24]

:lol "Pretend"

You alienate the majority of the country or at least enough of them, there's gonna be consequences, son.
So your going to tell me cable viewership in general isn’t down? I know you trump tards don’t care about facts though. Now go ask some more men to eat your ass faggot.

[Spurtacular]

So your going to tell me cable viewership in general isn’t down? I know you trump tards don’t care about facts though. Now go ask some more men to eat your ass faggot.

And there it is again. Cable viewership being down is no excuse for alienating viewers, "tard". You keep clinging to your half truths, dipshit.

[Spurtacular]

What's up with the orange text

Cuck deterrent, maybe. :lol

[Spurtacular]

Is fox sports viewers going up? If it is then you can make a good case

Eyeball test; they've been more of a presence. But Disney just bought them, so the contrast won't be there in some years, tbh.

[Blake]

Cuck deterrent, maybe. :lol

Lol laughing at your own lame joke

[Othyus Lalanne]

So in summary, espn is hurting because of politicizing but politicizing is great for ratings

Politicizing sports is not great for ratings. Why the fuck would it be? There is a lot of minimum information politics people out there, not even speaking about one tribe abandonning you.


Is fox sports viewers going up? If it is then you can make a good case

Their personality led idiocy is not doing great but Skip Trolltard dunks on the new Bomani show.


So your going to tell me cable viewership in general isn’t down? I know you trump tards don’t care about facts though. Now go ask some more men to eat your ass faggot.


Clearly if cable viewership is going down you keep people by making sports political...

In what fucking universe?

[Spurtacular]

Lol laughing at your own lame joke

Another Grade F retort. Hey, you didn't become a cuck for nothing. (No-laugh laugh).

[BD24]

Politicizing sports is not great for ratings. Why the fuck would it be? There is a lot of minimum information politics people out there, not even speaking about one tribe abandonning you.



Their personality led idiocy is not doing great but Skip Trolltard dunks on the new Bomani show.




Clearly if cable viewership is going down you keep people by making sports political...

In what fucking universe?
Why did you quote my same quote twice

This is obviously very important to you :lol

[Blake]

It's funny that you don't think every fringe progressive opinion under the sun promoted by ESPN is great for ratings.


Politicizing sports is not great for ratings. Why the fuck would it be?


Uh huh

[CosmicCowboy]

Uhhhh...you dont have to have cable to watch ESPN.

[Othyus Lalanne]

Why did you quote my same quote twice

This is obviously very important to you :lol

As part of a larger thing.


Uh huh


Yep, ESPN idiocy hurts.

[tlongII]

Is fox sports viewers going up? If it is then you can make a good case

Yes it is. They are carrying the World Cup.

[Winehole23]

over the last half-decade, Netflix has surged from 25m to 50m subscribers (https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/05/espn-layoffs-future/524922/). By contrast, ESPN has dropped from around 100m households to an estimated 87m, costing the company an estimated $1.08bn a year. Those losses come as ESPN is spending more than $8bn a year for the rights to the NFL ($1.9bn), NBA ($1.4bn), and other sports, deals that run through the early 2020s.


When Disney CEO Bob Iger admitted during a 2015 earnings call that ESPN had seen “some modest sub[scriber] losses” and that the company’s profit growth would slow, Disney shares fell nearly 10% the next day
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/dec/07/espn-revenue-viewership-politics-layoffs

[Winehole23]

“ESPN can’t just make money by showing up anymore,” Deitsch said. “It’s never going to be 1998 again. That said, anybody who thinks they are going out of business tomorrow is insane. One day, they may be a 3,000-person company as opposed to 8,000 people. But that’s still a powerhouse.”

[CosmicCowboy]

The lowered viewership has more to do with people cutting cable than anything. We can pretend it’s politics though. Most people watch streaming services now instead of cable
I suspect it will come back some as we get more options for unplugging from cable. I just did it at the lakehouse with youtubeTV, netfix, amazon, and hbo/showtime through amazon. Still get ESPN through youtubeTV.

[Winehole23]

nm, how would I know?

[CosmicCowboy]

CC rooting for ESPN and investing in AMAZON
Actually JD.com instead of amazon.

[Winehole23]

:tu

[Othyus Lalanne]

Shit is getting real.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2018/07/02/why-young-white-men-are-abandoning-the-democrats/

[monosylab1k]

Shit is getting real.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2018/07/02/why-young-white-men-are-abandoning-the-democrats/

:lmao you’re not white or American and you care this much.

[Othyus Lalanne]

:lmao you’re not white or American and you care this much.
So you just make conclusions based on my username. Fuck off. Weakling.

[FrostKing]

Shit is getting real.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2018/07/02/why-young-white-men-are-abandoning-the-democrats/
They could have just kept preaching equality and would have kept fooling a large segment. But once they went full anti-White and specifically male.

Cliffs: Democrats allowed themselves to get hijacked by self-hating Whites and Black supremacist. There are Hispanics here in California that align with them in many ways - but - they aren't atheist or in bed with this 38 genders stuff. So Hispanic demographic is a wash.

[FrostKing]

As for ESPN specifically

Force feeding NBA and NFL coverage. Being minority sports is one thing, being full of uppity arrogant blacks is a whole nother matter

[ElNono]

Here's the poll...

http://i64.tinypic.com/w1em1u.jpg

Pretty safe to assume Dems would love to see those percentages voting like that, tbh... IOW, opinion piece about a nothingburger.

[FrostKing]

Here's the poll...

http://i64.tinypic.com/w1em1u.jpg

Pretty safe to assume Dems would love to see those percentages voting like that, tbh... IOW, opinion piece about a nothingburger.
Still refreshing to see that although it took white Americans longer for the light bulb to come on (credit more & heavier propaganda), the white youth in North America is increasingly conservative like in Europe. By your mid 30s you have to be bitch made if you arent dating/raising a minority but still voting left.

[ElNono]

Still refreshing to see that although it took white Americans longer for the light bulb to come on (credit more & heavier propaganda), the white youth in North America is increasingly conservative like in Europe. By your mid 30s you have to be bitch made if you arent dating/raising a minority but still voting left.

About 1/3 of US voters change allegiance throughout their life, tbh, those end up being the people that determine elections... so you gotta take temporal snapshots for what they are. Frankly, the power swings between democrats and republicans have been fairly steady in the past few decades.

And what you point out, identity politics, is what supposedly white voters hate, so I would suspect you're way off in your assumption of who votes what based on age.

I would say that the biggest challenge for conservatives going forward is refraining from bringing up social conservative policies. It's clear that sticking with a socially liberal like Trump has revitalized the party, tbh, and trying to crowbar things like religion or abortion mandated by government is one way to drive people off to the Dems again.

For the Democrats, they just have to bid their time. They just ran the Executive for 8 years, had control of Congress about 10 years ago. Incumbency has a cost that eventually will flip to the GOP. And then we swing again. That's a healthy democracy at work.

[FrostKing]

About 1/3 of US voters change allegiance throughout their life, tbh, those end up being the people that determine elections... so you gotta take temporal snapshots for what they are. Frankly, the power swings between democrats and republicans have been fairly steady in the past few decades.

And what you point out, identity politics, is what supposedly white voters hate, so I would suspect you're way off in your assumption of who votes what based on age.

I would say that the biggest challenge for conservatives going forward is refraining from bringing up social conservative policies. It's clear that sticking with a socially liberal like Trump has revitalized the party, tbh, and trying to crowbar things like religion or abortion mandated by government is one way to drive people off to the Dems again.

For the Democrats, they just have to bid their time. They just ran the Executive for 8 years, had control of Congress about 10 years ago. Incumbency has a cost that eventually will flip to the GOP. And then we swing again. That's a healthy democracy at work.
That is true.

Republicans will continue moving left on social issues like you point out. It is the only way to balance out the identity politics which might be counter productive today but based on birth rates, homosexuality/interracial marriage in White community, and immigration from Europe/Canada/Australia versus the World - it will increasingly ring people in

On the flip side of the coin Democrats are shooting themselves in the foot by fighting over for example the 2nd amendment. I think an individual is more likely
to vote out of fear of losing their gun than vote hoping to end gun ownership. There is an overlap of non conservatives that own fireams.

[ElNono]

Considering the SCOTUS composition going forward, the 2nd Amendment is safe and sound for a good while.

[boutons_deux]

Considering the SCOTUS composition going forward, the 2nd Amendment is safe and sound for a good while.

not only that, but some gun assholes (financed by BigGun, 2nd Amendment perverts) will push a case to SCOTUS so that Feds block/preempt ALL state/municipal gun regs

[monosylab1k]

So you just make conclusions based on my username. Fuck off. Weakling.

But you also won’t deny it :lmao

[Othyus Lalanne]

But you also won’t deny it :lmao

I play the kicking your ass game not the who am i game.

[monosylab1k]

I play the kicking your ass game not the who am i game.

Non-white non-American crying about the fictional ill treatment of white Americans :lmao

[Othyus Lalanne]

Non-white non-American crying about the fictional ill treatment of white Americans :lmao

Other user busting your ass anytime he wants to.

[monosylab1k]

That limited English vocabulary showing now :lmao he’s tapped out.

________ your ass comment incoming.

[Othyus Lalanne]

That limited English vocabulary showing now :lmao he’s tapped out.

________ your ass comment incoming.

Tapped out. Weakling you never managed to walk away like a man from a confrontation with me.

[monosylab1k]

Tapped out. Weakling you never managed to walk away like a man from a confrontation with me.

:lmao “you’re not strong enough to walk away before mocking my stupidity!”

That’s a new one. Someone needs to brush up on his Engrish.

[Othyus Lalanne]

:lmao “you’re not strong enough to walk away before mocking my stupidity!”

That’s a new one. Someone needs to brush up on his Engrish.
Someone needs to brush up on fucking logic.

[monosylab1k]

Someone needs to brush up on fucking logic.

https://files.sharenator.com/sf4_ENGRISH_So_much_signage_FAIL-s500x335-169655.gif

[Othyus Lalanne]

https://files.sharenator.com/sf4_ENGRISH_So_much_signage_FAIL-s500x335-169655.gif

I mean the Western tradition.

[Mikeanaro]

Shit is getting real.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2018/07/02/why-young-white-men-are-abandoning-the-democrats/
Divide and get conquered.

[Othyus Lalanne]

Divide and get conquered.

Damn it is slow moving. I want PC as we know it to end yesterday.

[DMC]

Damn it is slow moving. I want PC as we know it to end yesterday.

Me no want PC to end. Just bought recently.

[ElNono]

Me no want PC to end. Just bought recently.

:lmao

[Othyus Lalanne]

Me no want PC to end. Just bought recently.

Bad injvestment. It will turn on you.

[DMC]

Bad injvestment. It will turn on you.

I had it neutered.

[Othyus Lalanne]

I had it neutered.

In America PC hunts you. There is no defense now.

[Othyus Lalanne]

Well, looky, looky...over there at the Ringer.

https://www.theringer.com/sports/2018/12/20/18149517/espn-jimmy-pitaro-politics-sportscenter-jemele-hill



From a certain viewpoint, president Jimmy Pitaro’s first year on the job has accomplished exactly what his Disney bosses wanted. Pitaro has turned ESPN into a quietly purring content machine. But that change also has an artistic aspect. Another way to think about Pitaro is that he has brought an end to an interesting if chaotic period in which ESPN threatened to grow into something other than a meat-and-potatoes sports network. Being a meat-and-potatoes sports network—slick and snazzy as it may be—is now ESPN’s explicit goal.



Some whiny progs in here just ordered some meat and potatoes...

[Winehole23]

Thanks to cord-cutting, the network is no longer enjoying the unsustainable boom times of five years ago.
Guess they never got their viewers back.

[Spurminator]

Well, looky, looky...over there at the Ringer.

https://www.theringer.com/sports/2018/12/20/18149517/espn-jimmy-pitaro-politics-sportscenter-jemele-hill


Some whiny progs in here just ordered some meat and potatoes...

You're the only person who cares. I don't see any whining ITT except coming from you.

[Othyus Lalanne]

You're the only person who cares. I don't see any whining ITT except coming from you.

And why the fuck should i care about the tiny sample size this subforum has?

[Spurminator]

And why the fuck should i care about the tiny sample size this subforum has?

I don't know, why would you say "whiny progs in here" in big bold letters if you don't care?

[Spurminator]

Seems like you're just feeling fighty. Perhaps a nice morning run would be a better way to let off some of that pent up aggression.

[Othyus Lalanne]

I don't know, why would you say "whiny progs in here" in big bold letters if you don't care?
This is how Spurstalk talks regardless how much i care or don't care.


Seems like you're just feeling fighty. Perhaps a nice morning run would be a better way to let off some of that pent up aggression.

i am always ready to throw down on the Net, that is like rule number 1.

[Othyus Lalanne]

At minute 36, woke God, Bill Simmons says the future of sports coverage is APOLITICAL...

https://www.theringer.com/the-bill-simmons-podcast/2019/7/22/20706172/bill-simmons-podcast-kevin-bacon-40-years-nba-calendar-brooks-koepka-dan-le-batard-espn

[FrostKing]

Lebatard

So rich how he evidently thinks his sports network doesn't push a social angle. ESPN is extremely pro black and female. They are not a non-partial sports reporting network like he still believes.

[Will Hunting]

:lol is Othyus Lalanne a gook? That would explain the incomprehensible English and the comics/anime fetish.

[Othyus Lalanne]

:lol is Othyus Lalanne a gook? That would explain the incomprehensible English and the comics/anime fetish.

comics/anime fetish

Based on your judgement...?

Please you are just a basic political partisan.

[Will Hunting]

comics/anime fetish

Based on your judgement...?

Please you are just a basic political partisan.

Based on your avatar and sig.

[Othyus Lalanne]

Based on your avatar and sig.

That is a shallow judgement.

[Will Hunting]

That is a shallow judgement.
You’ve yet to deny it though :lol

[SpursforSix]

ESPN is hurting themselves with shitty programming.

[Othyus Lalanne]

You’ve yet to deny it though :lol

That is not how the game works.

[Will Hunting]

That is not how the game works.
There you go again not denying it.

[Othyus Lalanne]

There you go again not denying it.
Why would one deny an impotent accusation?

[Will Hunting]

Why would one deny an impotent accusation?
I have no idea what an "impotent accusation" is you dog munching dink. Do you know what impotent means?

[Othyus Lalanne]

I have no idea what an "impotent accusation" is you dog munching dink. Do you know what impotent means?

I am looking at it. Just above my post.

[FrostKing]

ESPN is hurting themselves with shitty programming.
Right now


ESPN: nba talk
ESPN2: nfl talk

Neither sport even going on lol

[Spurtacular]

Truth be told, ESPN finally caught on that their BS was costing them viewership. They've toned down the overt politics. Haven't heard any BS in some months now, maybe.

[Spurtacular]

Right now


ESPN: nba talk
ESPN2: nfl talk

Neither sport even going on lol

Wait 'til more states legalize sports gambling; then, it'll change.

[SpursforSix]

Right now


ESPN: nba talk
ESPN2: nfl talk

Neither sport even going on lol

Yeah...that back to back to back talk show shit gets really old really fast. How many times to I need to see two or three different people arguing sports takes.

It's fallen as far from it's beginning as MTV.

[rmt]

Listen to Anna Wintour - can't even answer a straight question.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/anna-wintour-melania-trump-michelle-obama_n_5d36aa5ce4b0419fd3320e53

Whatever, one might think about her husband, Melania is always elegant and the height of fashion.