Spurs Select F Chimezie Metu in the 2018 NBA Draft (49th Overall)

[BatManu20]

6’11 athletic PF/C. Needs some coaching but has the natural size, length, and athleticism to be a difference maker around the rim. Could be a solid piece off the bench for us down the line. Not a bad pick at 49 imo.


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[BatManu20]

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[Holden_Caulfield]

Finally an actual center. None of that undersized shit

[mexicanjunior]

Toros fodder...

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V__8dRw_1wA

[Chinook]

Fuck. I'll have his thread in in a few hours. Had in the db ready to go and everything.

[DAF86]

Already better than Lauvergne.

[SPURt]

#MeToo

[Hoops Czar]

stash of the draft!

[Marcus Bryant]

"He got suspended for punching a player in the groin and has developed a reputation of being a bit reckless in that regard"

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/chimezie-metu

[Spurs9]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V__8dRw_1wA

:wow

[K...]

Can I call him cheezy metu?

[BatManu20]

"He got suspended for punching a player in the groin and has developed a reputation of being a bit reckless in that regard"

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/chimezie-metu

Good. This team needs an enforcer.

[dabom]

Reminds me of Duncan for no reason...

Kill me if he doesn't pan out. :lol

[Spurs da champs]

"He got suspended for punching a player in the groin and has developed a reputation of being a bit reckless in that regard"

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/chimezie-metu

Spurs have an answer to Gaymond.

[RD2191]

"He got suspended for punching a player in the groin and has developed a reputation of being a bit reckless in that regard"

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/chimezie-metu

The next draymond green.

[exstatic]

"He got suspended for punching a player in the groin and has developed a reputation of being a bit reckless in that regard"

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/chimezie-metu

So, a younger Dedmon? Must be something in the water at USC.

[rastaspur]

He looks athletic. Thats refreshing.

[Captivus]

"He got suspended for punching a player in the groin and has developed a reputation of being a bit reckless in that regard"

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/chimezie-metu

Now im really onboard! we need this

[8FOR!3]

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/clint-capela

[toki9]

"He got suspended for punching a player in the groin and has developed a reputation of being a bit reckless in that regard"

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/chimezie-metu

When and how did punching the groin become a thing in basketball? So strange.

[Hoops Czar]

He better enter the weight room or he's going to get pushed all over the court at the pro level.

[KDKSpurs24]

I hope this is a steal and that he turns into our version of Capela!

[Captivus]

He likes soccer

[marinoman]

6’11 athletic PF/C. Needs some coaching but has the natural size, length, and athleticism toche a siffer nice maker around the rim. Could be a solid piece off the bench for us down the line. Not a bad pick at 49 imo.


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Lol, bill walton said hes bill russell in that vid

[Spurs9]

He looks really impressive in that video, I’m glad they went athletic with both picks.

[Mr. Body]

Mehtu

[spursistan]

Already better than Lauvergne.
and Pau, tbh..

[DAF86]

#metu

[TheRemix]

reminds me of dedmon

[KDKSpurs24]

He looks really impressive in that video, I’m glad they went athletic with both picks.
Me too. It’s exciting.

[kjhip1]

He dunks too much, show off tbh

[KDKSpurs24]

I would have NEVER imagined we would pick TWO athletic players! :wow

[callo1]

A bit surprised, but it could end up working well.

[marinoman]

The next draymond green.
Nah green always says its an accident then throws a temper tantrum when given a flagrant. Then him and his mom cry on Twitter about how the league is out to get him

[8FOR!3]

Athleticism looks more like Capela than Dedmon to me.

[SpurPadre]

He's a Dick Puncher, apparently

[marinoman]

I would have NEVER imagined we would pick TWO athletic players! :wow
Spurs realize nowadays it’s all about switching on defense

[John B]

We need that enforcer. Just that he flexes like Gaymond after a dunk :lol

[KDKSpurs24]

Athleticism looks more like Capela than Dedmon to me.
Same. It does.

[Russ]

Already better than Lauvergne.

Definitely.

[lmbebo]

Project. Doubt he ever sees a spurs uniform.

[look_at_g_shred]

I see some Deandre and Capela tbh . Seems like someone who’d go late first / early second not the back end of the second.

[Dingle Barry]

Damn. I know it's a highlight reel, but I love the diversity of skills shown. Can run the floor, spot up, put the ball on the floor, block shit. Looks like a nice pick if he can add some weight.

[phxspurfan]

http://s3.amazonaws.com/pix.iemoji.com/images/emoji/apple/ios-11/256/thumbs-up.png

[Russ]

reminds me of dedmon

I see a fair amount of USC games and Metu is much better than Dedmon.

He's the best player I've seen at USC the last few years.

He showed up big in big games, like UCLA.

Whenever I saw the Trojans, he was the one I noticed.

[John B]

Solid picks by the Spurs. Great job. We got athletic scorers, both can defend. Dang!

[TheGreatYacht]

1009885795098882049

Already love this guy :lmao

[HarlemHeat37]

1009885795098882049

Already love this guy :lmao

:lol omg..

Don't look, DAF, look away my guy..

[RD2191]

1009885795098882049

Already love this guy :lmao
ElNono :wow

[John B]

What? Greek freak has a brother that went 60 to Dallas? Damn if he gets close to his brother, that’s a steal

[HarlemHeat37]

Surprised people only see DeAndre, Capela and Dedmon, tbh..I think he's closer to Olajuwon or Robinson..

[DAF86]

1009885795098882049

Already love this guy :lmao


:lol omg..

Don't look, DAF, look away my guy..

This draft came to save my attention from what's happening and then yall do me like this? :lol

He might be talking about Sidenaldo on 2014 though ¶¶

[ace3g]

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[DAF86]

Surprised people only see DeAndre, Capela and Dedmon, tbh..I think he's closer to Olajuwon or Robinson..

:lol

[TheDoctor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V__8dRw_1wA

So basically we got our Capella w/ better handles? Nice :tu

[Dingle Barry]

Metu Brute?

[Floyd Pacquiao]

1010009196170022914

Damn he's hitting step backs jumpers and 3s. Wow

[Marcus Bryant]

RC getting back in his draft groove, gonna need it for the next couple years...

[BSfromTX]

I don’t watch college ball at all, but I watched video on Ayton and he looked like Tiago and Rasho throwing up hook shot when he’s two feet away and guarded by hobbits

this dude throws down every chance he gets and seems to defend well. How is he available at 49? What’s he lacking?

[ace3g]

Paul Garcia pAulGarciaNBA
(https://twitter.com/PaulGarciaNBA) 2m (https://twitter.com/PaulGarciaNBA/status/1010012202852478976)
Buford said Walker is one of the best athletes in the draft and the Spurs are glad to be adding more athleticism to the team with Walker and Metu.

[Thomas82]

What? Greek freak has a brother that went 60 to Dallas? Damn if he gets close to his brother, that’s a steal
I was hoping we could get him as an undrafted free agent.

[BackHome]

With Walker and Metu I am actually excited to watch the Spurs.

[DAF86]

1010009196170022914

Athletic 7 footer moving like a SG out there and swishing threes off the dribble, drafted 49th. 10/15 years ago everybody would be creaming their pants over a prospect like that. :lol

[John B]

I like Metu now, but wow and to Dallas :bang

[DMC]

1010003908029272069

49 is a bit old to be entering the league.

[cjw]

What? Greek freak has a brother that went 60 to Dallas? Damn if he gets close to his brother, that’s a steal

He has another brother who didn’t stick in the NBA too. Probably nothing to see here. A total gamble pick just in the 1% chance he turns into something.

Heck, Blake Griffin had a brother too who played but not very well.

[TheCerebral1]

I like the tape, athletic, hits a smooth jumper from outside similar to LaMarcus, and can definitely get up to get offensive and defensive boards. Just needs to put on some weight. This is the best second round pick in a while. No draft and stash. RC taking this offseason seriously. Time to cut ties with the dregs holding this team down. Buh bye.

[Thomas82]

He has another brother who didn’t stick in the NBA too. Probably nothing to see here. A total gamble pick just in the 1% chance he turns into something.

Heck, Blake Griffin had a brother too who played but not very well.

They also have one more brother that's in high school and will probably be drafted in the next 2 years or so.

[RD2191]

They also have one more brother that's in high school and will probably be drafted in the next 2 years or so.

And another one in his father's nutsack! :wow

[ducks]

I like the tape, athletic, hits a smooth jumper from outside similar to LaMarcus, and can definitely get up to get offensive and defensive boards. Just needs to put on some weight. This is the best second round pick in a while. No draft and stash. RC taking this offseason seriously. Time to cut ties with the dregs holding this team down. Buh bye.
Trying to get Leonard to stay

[ElNono]

ElNono :wow

troof bomb

[bdictjames]

His shot reminds me of Diaw's. I hope he will be a good piece for years to come!

[cd021]

His shot reminds me of Diaw's. I hope he will be a good piece for years to come!
I can see that,but his release looks a bit slower and he doesn't seem to pump fake when he's wide open :lol

[cd021]

With Joff, apparently opting out- Spurs dodged a fucking bullet with that, I am curious to see if Metu makes the actual roster.

He could be on 2 way contract., make the roster as the 15th man, or sign directly to the Austin Spurs. If Aldridge starts at the 5 then the Spurs would need at 3rd center behind Gasol- but hopefully that's Milutinov.

[jbspurs]

I see Capela with swagger. I hope Pop will give this guy a chance to develop here and not overseas.

[NASpurs]

I'm excited for this dude. Just a breath of fresh air when I've been hating for Gasol on years now.

[Spurtacular]

Dedmon replacement, maybe better.

[DAF86]

We need more number 4's on the roster.

[bdictjames]

I can see that,but his release looks a bit slower and he doesn't seem to pump fake when he's wide open :lol
:lol

But those post moves though :lol

[SpursforSix]

And another one in his father's nutsack! :wow

Soon to be in your mom’s butt

[RD2191]

Soon to be in your mom’s butt

:lobt2:

[offset formation]

Trying to get Leonard to stay

Yeah, I'd be interested to know if Kawhi watched the draft or if Uncle Robertson had his TV watching turned off so Kawhi could go to bed.

[kjhip1]

Yeah, I'd be interested to know if Kawhi watched the draft or if Uncle Robertson had his TV watching turned off so Kawhi could go to bed.

I chuckled when I read this! :lol

[objective]

this dude throws down every chance he gets and seems to defend well. How is he available at 49? What’s he lacking?

I'm guessing he was a mid-late second rounder because of his age (21) and his measurements at the combine. He's just not very big as a center, 6-9.5 in shoes, 220 lbs, only a 7-0.5 wingspan. He's smaller than the guys people are comparing him too, Capela (6-11, 7-4.5ws) or Dedmon (6-11.5, 7-4ws)

but not bad for a second round flyer

[cutewizard]

Unique name hey, let's call him the Black Jaguar!!!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V__8dRw_1wA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0WIkXPgMSA



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJ3etqtg-oM

[John B]

I'm guessing he was a mid-late second rounder because of his age (21) and his measurements at the combine. He's just not very big as a center, 6-9.5 in shoes, 220 lbs, only a 7-0.5 wingspan. He's smaller than the guys people are comparing him too, Capela (6-11, 7-4.5ws) or Dedmon (6-11.5, 7-4ws)

but not bad for a second round flyer

6’9 1/2” with shoes! What we picked another undersized? :bang

[cutewizard]

THE SPURS FUTURE IS HERE:


Milutinov at center

Metu at power forward

Murray at point forward

White as point guard

Skywalker at the MJ off guard position

Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!! !!!!!

We are stacked!

[RD2191]

He's listed at 6'11 tho??

[raybies]

THE SPURS FUTURE IS HERE:


Milutinov at center

Metu at power forward

Murray at point forward

White as point guard

Skywalker at the MJ off guard position

Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!! !!!!!

We are stacked!
lol

[cutewizard]

Now since we have our future, trade Kawhi for ANYONE and well call it a day folks

[cd021]

Yeah, I'd be interested to know if Kawhi watched the draft or if Uncle Robertson had his TV watching turned off so Kawhi could go to bed.

The Spurs didn't end until 9pm Central time- no way he stayed up past his bed time, Uncle Dennis would never allow it. :lol

[spurs10]

"He got suspended for punching a player in the groin and has developed a reputation of being a bit reckless in that regard"

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/chimezie-metu Let's make a list for him.

Zaza
Draymond
Uncle Dennis
Cupcake
Magic
...........

[daslicer]

The Spurs didn't end until 9pm Central time- no way he stayed up past his bed time, Uncle Dennis would never allow it. :lol

:lmao

[objective]

He's listed at 6'11 tho??

in college, yes.

In real life he's 6-8.5 barefoot, 6-9.5 in shoes.

http://www.nbadraft.net/2018-nba-draft-combine-measurements

[DAF86]

Unique name hey, let's call him the Black Jaguar!!!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V__8dRw_1wA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0WIkXPgMSA



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJ3etqtg-oM

Those handles and moves. :wow

[Spurtacular]

Did the Lakers snake the Spurs pick at 48, though?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKKrTwzI3Bk

[DAF86]

Did the Lakers snake the Spurs pick at 48, though?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKKrTwzI3Bk

48 was Diop. And yeah, I really liked him. Many of he had him as a possibility for 18th, tbh.

[daslicer]

If he ever turns out be successful I'll get kick out of saying "I support Metu."

[Mr. Body]

Did the Lakers snake the Spurs pick at 48, though?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKKrTwzI3Bk

That's my feeling.

[cd021]

I was legit pissed that Minny took Diop but Metu looks good.

[spurraider21]

He's listed at 6'11 tho??
cause players usually have shoes on

[outmap]

Would have preferred to gamble on Kulboka or Antetokounmpo as projects. Low risk, high reward at the 2nd round.

Very happy with Walker though, I see a bit of Bradley Beal and a little Victor Oladipo in him.

Should try out Haas and McCoy, both undrafted Center that can clog the lane.

[outmap]

cause players usually have shoes on

Measured 6'9-1/2" with shoes on.

[cd021]

Unique name hey, let's call him the Black Jaguar!!!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0WIkXPgMSA




Those moves he displayed were fairly advanced. On one play he pump faked and drove from the line to the charge line and hit a floater. On another he brought the ball up the floor and saw an open shooter in the corner and hit him for an open look.

He also looked like he had good touch around the rim and good post skill, including a play where he spun baseline and hit a turn around jumper.

Duncan could definitely help his development, with his post game, setting [illegal] screens and rim protection. Really solid pick and not too old, just turned 21 three months ago.

[Kuestmaster]

I like Cheetos Metoo

[Chinook]

Those moves he displayed were fairly advanced. On one play he pump faked and drove from the line to the charge line and hit a floater. On another he brought the ball up the floor and saw an open shooter in the corner and hit him for an open look.

He also looked like he had good touch around the rim and good post skill, including a play where he spun baseline and hit a turn around jumper.

Duncan could definitely help his development, with his post game, setting [illegal] screens and rim protection. Really solid pick and not too old, just turned 21 three months ago.

I had the opposite reaction. I didn't really like what I saw. Dude is a power-forward, even in the modern game, and I think his skill level is still way too raw for him to succeed there. I loved his willingness to use his athleticism, but I don't think he's all that great of an athlete. He can shoot, but only out to like 20 feet, which is pretty useless unless he's elite at it. He can handle the ball, but I don't think he can do so at an NBA level, especially for a perimeter-oriented PF. I don't think is handles are better than Joff's for example, and no one here would think that was one of Lauvergne's strength. He's a smart dude by all accounts, and that seems to be the case on the court too. But his age is a concern. He's less developed than I'd like for a guy who will be 22 soon.

Obviously, he still has a ceiling, and working out what he can do best in the pros and giving him a plan on how to fit that role is key to his success. I'm just not sure what that would be. I do feel, however, that SA needs to bring in a new five, even if (and I hope this happens) they sign Metu to a real contract. Metu just isn't a five and should only play there spot minutes.

[J_Paco]

Yeah, I'd be interested to know if Kawhi watched the draft or if Uncle Robertson had his TV watching turned off so Kawhi could go to bed.

:lmao:lmao:lmao

The team has no depth at the back up 5, so unless he looks like total trash in SL & training camp, I think he'll make the 17 man roster.

Didn't realize he lack height and the wingspan needed to play center at the NBA level, so he likely be a developmental PF/(occasionally)C. Still I like the athleticism he displays and that is more than I can say of Anderson, Joff or Costello. Who I hope don't return, TBH.

Now, actual minutes on the NBA team is a completely different story.....

[duncan2150]

I had the opposite reaction. I didn't really like what I saw. Dude is a power-forward, even in the modern game, and I think his skill level is still way too raw for him to succeed there. I loved his willingness to use his athleticism, but I don't think he's all that great of an athlete. He can shoot, but only out to like 20 feet, which is pretty useless unless he's elite at it. He can handle the ball, but I don't think he can do so at an NBA level, especially for a perimeter-oriented PF. I don't think is handles are better than Joff's for example, and no one here would think that was one of Lauvergne's strength. He's a smart dude by all accounts, and that seems to be the case on the court too. But his age is a concern. He's less developed than I'd like for a guy who will be 22 soon.

Obviously, he still has a ceiling, and working out what he can do best in the pros and giving him a plan on how to fit that role is key to his success. I'm just not sure what that would be. I do feel, however, that SA needs to bring in a new five, even if (and I hope this happens) they sign Metu to a real contract. Metu just isn't a five and should only play there spot minutes.

I agree with the fact that he's raw a the time but he's just 21 and could develop his skills..... imo he's a good athlete, above average after seeing all his athlethics tests during the combine so he has the tools, we just have to make him better.

[Chinook]

I agree with the fact that he's raw a the time but he's just 21 and could develop his skills..... imo he's a good athlete, above average after seeing all his athlethics tests during the combine so he has the tools, we just have to make him better.

I think he's a fine athlete, the most athletic big on the team right now. But he's not an athlete like Walker is. He's definitely not too old to develop his skills. But he's too old to just assume his skills will develop as he ages. I also think you have to ask yourself if you want to "waste time" trying to develop his perimeter skills if you want him to be a small-ball, roll-man center. And you have to ask yourself if you want him focusing on his post moves (which really need work) when he doesn't have NBA range as a spot-up guy? Just so many questions. I want that dude living LMA's house. Aldridge can help him work on some skills and bulk up (LMA came into the league as combo-forward)

[duncan2150]

I think he's a fine athlete, the most athletic big on the team right now. But he's not an athlete like Walker is. He's definitely not too old to develop his skills. But he's too old to just assume his skills will develop as he ages. I also think you have to ask yourself if you want to "waste time" trying to develop his perimeter skills if you want him to be a small-ball, roll-man center. And you have to ask yourself if you want him focusing on his post moves (which really need work) when he doesn't have NBA range as a spot-up guy? Just so many questions. I want that dude living LMA's house. Aldridge can help him work on some skills and bulk up (LMA came into the league as combo-forward)

Totally agree

[kobyz]

Reminds me skal labissiere from the kings or a very poor man's john collins...

[mystargtr34]

6'8.5" without shoes is fine for a backup C in todays NBA.. makes him about your regular 6'10" by NBA standards.

[Emperor]

So we got poor man's Donovan Mitchell and Clint Capela in this draft? I'll take it.

[MoSpur02]

#metu

:lmao

[Spurtacular]

48 was Diop. And yeah, I really liked him. Many of he had him as a possibility for 18th, tbh.

47th not 48th, yea. Mykhailiuk would be too high at 18. He's probably a weak defender and likely mainly just a spot-up shooter despite some flashes of athleticism.

[BackHome]

If they keep him mostly at PF and set him up with back door and alley oops like Houston does with Capella I would be very happy. If you look at Capella he really started to show his strength when he had a PG who could get him easy dunks and good sets. lol

[8FOR!3]

Metu is a center in the NBA. And I don't think he lacks athleticism.

[Strategic]

#Metu or Metu World Peace, Ron is that really you?

[cd98]

Classic 2nd round pick. Athletic but raw and maybe undersized. Play overseas or In Austin and iffy to make or stay on an NBA roster.

[Spurtacular]

Metu is a center in the NBA. And I don't think he lacks athleticism.

Agreed. If you're talking to me, I was referencing a different player though.

[r0drig0lac]

"He got suspended for punching a player in the groin and has developed a reputation of being a bit reckless in that regard"

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/chimezie-metu

great news

[mo7888]

I like the pick. I'll like it even better if we sign him to a two way contract and see if we can develop him this year.

[cd021]

I had the opposite reaction. I didn't really like what I saw. Dude is a power-forward, even in the modern game, and I think his skill level is still way too raw for him to succeed there. I loved his willingness to use his athleticism, but I don't think he's all that great of an athlete. He can shoot, but only out to like 20 feet, which is pretty useless unless he's elite at it. He can handle the ball, but I don't think he can do so at an NBA level, especially for a perimeter-oriented PF. I don't think is handles are better than Joff's for example, and no one here would think that was one of Lauvergne's strength. He's a smart dude by all accounts, and that seems to be the case on the court too. But his age is a concern. He's less developed than I'd like for a guy who will be 22 soon.

Obviously, he still has a ceiling, and working out what he can do best in the pros and giving him a plan on how to fit that role is key to his success. I'm just not sure what that would be. I do feel, however, that SA needs to bring in a new five, even if (and I hope this happens) they sign Metu to a real contract. Metu just isn't a five and should only play there spot minutes.


I don't know about all of that. I think he can develop into a good 5 man, particularly on defense, one of his scouting strengths was his ability to block and alter shots. It sounds also like he is also mobile enough to potentially hedge or switch out on the perimeter, in time.

Athletically; he has the highest max vert of any 4 or 5 in this year's draft, at 36 inches (7 inches better than his no step jump, suggesting that he's an explosive leaper) which is what I've seen in his video's.



The defensive side is where Metu's impact is the most consistent right now, as he blocked 3.2 shots per 40 minutes, pace adjusted. Metu does a good job of maintaining verticality to prevent himself from picking up unnecessary fouls around the basket, although he still has difficulty staying out of foul trouble due to touch fouls on the perimeter. Metu seems like he has the type of build that his standing reach should be more in line with his height than his wingspan is, as his slender shoulders do him no service with the latter.


That will help his chances if indeed the case, and he has excellent timing, a superb second jump, and shows good pursuit as a weakside shot blocker off the ball. Metu's defensive contributions aren't just limited to altering shots around the rim, however, as he moves his feet exceptionally well for a player his size, something that not only allows him to defend either frontcourt position, but also helps defend the pick and roll, allowing him to hedge and recover on pick and rolls or just flat-out switch defensive assignments, traits that are extremely valued at the next level. His instincts on the perimeter still need some work, and he can get caught being overly aggressive in his rotations and be prone to mistakes, but the defensive base is intriguing, to say the least. - Source: ?http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Chimezie-Metu-72494/ ©DraftExpress


Offensively, I think he's shown enough to suggest that he could at least become a decent 3pt shooter (went 12/40 last season, 30 %, a couple of made 3's away from shooting an above average clip) though the Spurs haven't exactly been proactive in letting big- save for Pau- shoot out there.

He might only end up being a pick and pop type of big but that's fine, if he's good at it, Metu also looks like he could be a lob threat on rolls to the basket and apparently has good hands-which helps.

Metu has solid handles but that should only be used to counter closeouts- pump-fake, put it on the floor and beat his man off the dribble, to the basket. He looks like he has a floater-like shot within a few feet of the rim and a decent post game.

I think the hope is that he develops into a upper or lower middle-class version of Serge Ibaka and I don't think that's insane. It tends to take athletic big's longer to develop into useful players (Dedmon, Chandler, McGee, Ibaka- depending on if you think he's six years older than his listed age like the rumors) He's barely 21, even if it takes him 3 years to put it together, he'll be only 24 then.

On a side note, I am curious to see if they try to give him a DeJuan Blair type deal (4 year deal, each year non-guaranteed but will be an unrestricted free agent at 25).

That would be a pretty good idea, in my opinion. Spurs shouldn't have a roster crunch this season with at least 10 players back (Parker [probably back], Murray, Mills, Green, Anderson [probably back], Bertans (probably back), LMA, Walker, White, Pau)

with Manu (retirement), Forbes (trash), Joff (apparently opting out), Paul (non-guarantee), and Gay (ring chasing) still up in the air with 3 or 4 of the 5 probably gone. Even if they bring Milutinov over; they would still have an open roster spot, or two, open.

[cd021]

Metu is a center in the NBA. And I don't think he lacks athleticism.


He has the highest max vert of any 4 or 5 at the combine (36 inches)

Walker has a 40 inch max vert in addition to his 6'10 1/2 wing span :wow

[Russ]

I received this email from a USC buddy regarding the Spurs' scouting of Metu:

Jordan Moore (@MooreSports) tweeted at 9:46 PM on Thu, Jun 21, 2018:

If you’re wondering how much work goes into the #NBADraft, #Spurs scout @landryfields went to nearly every @USC_Hoops home game and countless practices the last two years to watch @Chimezie_Metu before San Antonio picked him tonight. They know who they are getting.

(https://twitter.com/MooreSports/status/1010021132475305984?s=03)

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[Ice009]

1009885795098882049

Already love this guy :lmao

What does this mean?

[spurraider21]

What does this mean?
Messi choke job

[tholdren]

When and how did punching the groin become a thing in basketball? So strange.

Todays nba

[Russ]

Messi choke job

Memo to Metu -- Patch things up with Manu.

[Spurs9]

I received this email from a USC buddy regarding the Spurs' scouting of Metu:

Jordan Moore (@MooreSports) tweeted at 9:46 PM on Thu, Jun 21, 2018:

If you’re wondering how much work goes into the #NBADraft, #Spurs scout @landryfields went to nearly every @USC_Hoops home game and countless practices the last two years to watch @Chimezie_Metu before San Antonio picked him tonight. They know who they are getting.

(https://twitter.com/MooreSports/status/1010021132475305984?s=03)

Get the official Twitter app at https://twitter.com/download?s=13
Wow thats pretty impressive, how many scouts do the Spurs have? Sounds like the Spurs got both guys they exactly wanted.

[8FOR!3]

Wow thats pretty impressive, how many scouts do the Spurs have? Sounds like the Spurs got both guys they exactly wanted.

Idk but I think it's pretty cool that we gave Landry Fields a scouting job, hopefully he excels at it.

[rjv]

i like this pick as a sub for missing out on robert williams for getting walker instead. metu has far more offense than williams and can get a bit stronger after a year or so with the spurs. he can really throw down lobs and protect the rim and is athletic. getting metu was the punctuation on a really solid draft for the spurs.

[rjv]

I received this email from a USC buddy regarding the Spurs' scouting of Metu:

Jordan Moore (@MooreSports) tweeted at 9:46 PM on Thu, Jun 21, 2018:

If you’re wondering how much work goes into the #NBADraft, #Spurs scout @landryfields went to nearly every @USC_Hoops home game and countless practices the last two years to watch @Chimezie_Metu before San Antonio picked him tonight. They know who they are getting.

(https://twitter.com/MooreSports/status/1010021132475305984?s=03)

Get the official Twitter app at https://twitter.com/download?s=13


but did they ask the ST experts what they thought? that's what really matters.

[TimDunkem]

He looks good, tbh. Just hope he can develop quickly so Poop's is forced to bring him in and play him. This team needs capable bigs badly.

[Marcus Bryant]

Sold. Athletic big with refined offensive game. Good second round value.

[sasaint]

He looks good, tbh. Just hope he can develop quickly so Poop's is forced to bring him in and play him. This team needs capable bigs badly.

I don't think a player's development really forces Pop's decisions. He will get the G-League treatment for at least a year. Look at White.

[superbigtime]

whoa I like what I see here! Bill Walton seems to really like this kid. Blocks, drives, dunks, spin, finishes, good handles. Nice!

[Pavlov]

Keep working on that three pointer in Austin.

[wildbill2u]

#metoometu

[RD2191]

He's a scrub, like Kyle Anderson.

[BackHome]

Why Rob? Why? .... lol

[tholdren]

He has the highest max vert of any 4 or 5 at the combine (36 inches)

Walker has a 40 inch max vert in addition to his 6'10 1/2 wing span :wow

Grayson allen 40 inch vert

[SpurPadre]

Memo to Metu -- Patch things up with Manu.

Unlike Miss-i, Manu wins for his country, tbh.

[gambit1990]

really liking this draft for the spurs.

[cd021]

Grayson allen 40 inch vert

This draft was full of athletic freak's, Walker was actually tied for 10th in his class despite having a 40 inch max vert which is considered to be well above average.

[CP48107]

49 is a bit old to be entering the league. :lol

[ace3g]

During the NBA Combine, Metu spoke about his interview with Spurs:


CHICAGO — Twitter: @JeffGSpursZone (http://news4sanantonio.com/sports/spurs-zone/www.twitter.com/jeffgspurszone)

The 2018 NBA Combine is a wrap and one participant spoke about his meeting with the San Antonio Spurs.

USC Foward Chimezie Metu was asked about his meet up with Spurs' R.C. Buford and other members of the Spurs staff.
"It was a great meeting," said Metu. "Landry Fields was in there, R.C. Buford, a lot of the front office guys."
Said Metu, "It was a great meeting, I felt it went great and hopefully, down the line, I'm going to workout for them pretty soon. Hopefully, that goes great."

http://news4sanantonio.com/sports/spurs-zone/usc-forward-chimezie-metu-talks-recent-meeting-with-spurs

[tholdren]

This draft was full of athletic freak's, Walker was actually tied for 10th in his class despite having a 40 inch max vert which is considered to be well above average.

Allen also had the 2nd best shuttle time ever, i believe. Wonder why this was not mentioned very much....?

[Chinook]

Metu is pretty much the same physical profile a LJC was. He's a higher leaper, but Livio was probably more mobile. Jean-Charles plays a lot of center in the g-league, but he was on track to be an SF before he tore his knee up. I'm hoping they keep Metu as a combo-forward rather than hoping he'll be a five.

[SAGirl]

Why Rob? Why? .... lol
Since the Kawhi-gate drama has fans turning on Kiwi Rob has become really bitter... or maybe he has always been bitter but it's so pronounced right now that he stands out even here.

[tholdren]

Allen also had the 2nd best shuttle time ever, i believe. Wonder why this was not mentioned very much....?

I know why

[BSfromTX]

He totally looks like a 3/4, but may not have peremiter skill for 3 so much.

[Biggems]

Grayson allen 40 inch vert

Allen is a G, not a F/C. The poster said the best vert for a 4/5 player, not 1-3.

[tholdren]

Allen is a G, not a F/C. The poster said the best vert for a 4/5 player, not 1-3.

I was just commenting on the athletic ability od allen, being one of the best athletes in the draft based on combine results, even better than walker. Shockingly, no one is talking about that. How odd....

[Chinook]

I was just commenting on the athletic ability od allen, being one of the best athletes in the draft based on combine results, even better than walker. Shockingly, no one is talking about that. How odd....

Why would we be talking about Allen when SA didn't draft him? Had Pop picked him we would be talking about it just like we did with Derrick White.

[tholdren]

Why would we be talking about Allen when SA didn't draft him? Had Pop picked him we would be talking about it just like we did with Derrick White.

I dont know. Just the athleticism. He seems to not be mentioned as an athlete. Yet, someone who has a significantly worse vert gets praised for his athleticism. Kind of homerish...

[pad300]

I dont know. Just the athleticism. He seems to not be mentioned as an athlete. Yet, someone who has a significantly worse vert gets praised for his athleticism. Kind of homerish...

Well, for one thing, although Allen tested very well, he doesn't seem to be able to apply it as much in game - see his 4 yrs at Duke...

Also, given you've been commenting on the choice of Walker over Allen, one word: potential. Lonnie had 1 year in college, Allen has had 4.

[objective]

There's paper athleticism and applied athleticism.

The only one that matters is applied athleticism. If you're not doing 40 inch verts in game, who cares?

[Biggems]

I dont know. Just the athleticism. He seems to not be mentioned as an athlete. Yet, someone who has a significantly worse vert gets praised for his athleticism. Kind of homerish...

But if we are discussing bigs in this thread, what does it matter how athletic a wing player is?

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

I'd be surprised if this kid has a ceiling any higher than Dedmond, which is ok. But I only saw him play a little bit in college. Sounds like the Spurs did their due diligence scouting him so perhaps he's got the skills to do more.

[sasaint]

I'd be surprised if this kid has a ceiling any higher than Dedmond, which is ok. But I only saw him play a little bit in college. Sounds like the Spurs did their due diligence scouting him so perhaps he's got the skills to do more.

Better hands from the micro-sample I have seen.

[tholdren]

Well, for one thing, although Allen tested very well, he doesn't seem to be able to apply it as much in game - see his 4 yrs at Duke...

Also, given you've been commenting on the choice of Walker over Allen, one word: potential. Lonnie had 1 year in college, Allen has had 4.

Anyone has potential. Spurs drafted a pg who cant pass shoot or dribble. Spurs have a sg who cant pass or dribble. No small fwd. Iso fadeaway 4 and no 5.... tired of the potential drafts.

[BackHome]

Dude how can you Be bitching about Walker? He was mocked much higher in a lot of drafts the dude is good do you not watch college basketball?

[picnroll]

Anyone has potential. Spurs drafted a pg who cant pass shoot or dribble. Spurs have a sg who cant pass or dribble. No small fwd. Iso fadeaway 4 and no 5.... tired of the potential drafts.

Enlighten us. Who would you drafted that was available at 18?

[tholdren]

Enlighten us. Who would you drafted that was available at 18?

I dont mind the pick, better than murray, i would have taken allen. He could easily do what green does.

[SilverSpur]

H needs to work on those shoulders. Very small frame and small upper body. Needs Dwight Howard shoulders

[spursistan]

Since the Kawhi-gate drama has fans turning on Kiwi Rob has become really bitter... or maybe he has always been bitter but it's so pronounced right now that he stands out even here.
:lol

[ace3g]

1010951785564049411

[HarlemHeat37]

I dont mind the pick, better than murray, i would have taken allen. He could easily do what green does.

Why the hell would the Spurs waste one of their highest picks in forever to replace a role player(Green) when they desperately need a perimeter creator?:lol

[NickiRasgo]

I see some comparison to JJ Hickson.

[HarlemHeat37]

I see some comparison to JJ Hickson.

Hopefully his life doesn't go the same way:lol

[DJR210]

If Metu tries to break into my house I'll exorcise my King of the Castle rights..

[tholdren]

Why the hell would the Spurs waste one of their highest picks in forever to replace a role player(Green) when they desperately need a perimeter creator?:lol
So you get lonnie walker? A worse overall player and athlete? Lol you proved my point and too dumb to understand how

[tim_duncan_fan]

Already looks better than any big we have that isn't LaMarcus Aldridge.

Too bad he won't get to play.

[BackHome]

I dont mind the pick, better than murray, i would have taken allen. He could easily do what green does.

Allen.....did you say Allen WTF do you watch college ball man? Serious question?

[tholdren]

Allen.....did you say Allen WTF do you watch college ball man? Serious question?

Sad you dont

[Chinook]

I don't think anyone who watches games thinks Allen is a better athlete than Walker. He may jump higher, but he's not explosive. Dude is a legit NBA athlete, but he seems closer to DeJounte Murray in terms of size and speed and ability to convert vertical into plays at the rim. Neither is as good as Jonathon Simmons in that regard, and Simmons is not as good as Walker. Lonnie seems to fly down the court and can sky with no effort at all. But he can also adjust in the air, and do more above the rim than just dunk. They aren't close in that regard at all, honestly.

Allen is much more polished as a player, and I don't think a lot of people give him enough credit for how much skill he demonstrates when he plays. Dude's not a goon. I really liked Bagley during the draft, and watching him made me appreciate Allen, because Grayson set him up beautifully. He could have totally come in and been a factor in the guard rotation from Day One. That's the trade-off with picking older players though. If Walker can get that same level of polish to his game, he'll be much better than Allen is now and may be in the future. He could easily be the player that many Spurs fans hope Murray ends up being.

[SpursBills]

I don't think anyone who watches games thinks Allen is a better athlete than Walker. He may jump higher, but he's not explosive. Dude is a legit NBA athlete, but he seems closer to DeJounte Murray in terms of size and speed and ability to convert vertical into plays at the rim. Neither is as good as Jonathon Simmons in that regard, and Simmons is not as good as Walker. Lonnie seems to fly down the court and can sky with no effort at all. But he can also adjust in the air, and do more above the rim than just dunk. They aren't close in that regard at all, honestly.

Allen is much more polished as a player, and I don't think a lot of people give him enough credit for how much skill he demonstrates when he plays. Dude's not a goon. I really liked Bagley during the draft, and watching him made me appreciate Allen, because Grayson set him up beautifully. He could have totally come in and been a factor in the guard rotation from Day One. That's the trade-off with picking older players though. If Walker can get that same level of polish to his game, he'll be much better than Allen is now and may be in the future. He could easily be the player that many Spurs fans hope Murray ends up being.

How would you compare Walker's athleticism to someone like zhaire smith? I'm reasonably happy that walker fell to the spurs, but in my opinion smith was the true prize with the potential to be a two way monster.

[TD 21]

Metu is pretty much the same physical profile a LJC was. He's a higher leaper, but Livio was probably more mobile. Jean-Charles plays a lot of center in the g-league, but he was on track to be an SF before he tore his knee up. I'm hoping they keep Metu as a combo-forward rather than hoping he'll be a five.

Despite being listed as an SF, Jean-Charles was never going to be one the way the league was/is trending. Since he hasn't developed 3-point range, he became a C in a PF's body. Those types only work next to stretch C's.

Metu has no chance to be a combo forward. I'm not even sure he can be a combo big. Despite the relatively short wingspan, he's probably just a C.

[Chinook]

How would you compare Walker's athleticism to someone like zhaire smith? I'm reasonably happy that walker fell to the spurs, but in my opinion smith was the true prize with the potential to be a two way monster.

Smith can jump higher and seems better at flashy dunks. I wouldn't say he's more explosive, though. Dude's a slasher who could develop into a three-and-D-plus guy. Walker has lead-guard potential. He tightens up that handle, and he's going to be the best penetrator on the team.

http://www.tankathon.com/players/compare?players=grayson-allen--donte-divincenzo--zhaire-smith--lonnie-walker

This comparison seems to suggest that Smith was the best of the two-guards drafted around where the Spurs picked, while Walker was the worst. But Walker's age and physical tools give him a chance to be the best of the four in a few seasons.

[Chinook]

Despite being listed as an SF, Jean-Charles was never going to be one the way the league was/is trending. Since he hasn't developed 3-point range, he became a C in a PF's body. Those types only work next to stretch C's.

Metu has no chance to be a combo forward. I'm not even sure he can be a combo big. Despite the relatively short wingspan, he's probably just a C.

He's really small for center, even in the smaller college game. That's why he was a PF. He may not be able to keep up with forwards, but he'd struggle big time against bigger and stronger players. There were wings like KBD that were bigger than him. Despite the hype surrounding his vertical leap, he wasn't that impressive at the combine. I worry that he won't even have an agility advantage over centers if that's where his game goes. His only shot is going to be versatility on offense, and that suggests to me that he'll need to focus on perimeter skills.

[RGMCSE]

He's really small for center, even in the smaller college game. That's why he was a PF. He may not be able to keep up with forwards, but he'd struggle big time against bigger and stronger players. There were wings like KBD that were bigger than him. Despite the hype surrounding his vertical leap, he wasn't that impressive at the combine. I worry that he won't even have an agility advantage over centers if that's where his game goes. His only shot is going to be versatility on offense, and that suggests to me that he'll need to focus on perimeter skills.

You are being a real fucking buzz kill dude. When I watched his highlights, its the first time I legitimately felt we finally got a big with real potential. Now your telling me hes not worth the 2nd round pick. Damn... :depressed

[Chinook]

You are being a real fucking buzz kill dude. When I watched his highlights, its the first time I legitimately felt we finally got a big with real potential. Now your telling me hes not worth the 2nd round pick. Damn... :depressed

Real-talk: I am disappointed in getting him at 49. A normal second-round pick from SA would have been fine. But I was hoping someone really interesting would fall, and someone almost did.

Anyway, I'm actually not saying Metu isn't worth a pick or that he won't develop. I just don't think he's going to be the player people expect. I think he's going to have to be an unorthodox player if he's going to make it, so comparing him to players like Capela just doesn't jive with what I see. A defensive-minded combo-forward who can play some five seems best. That's probably what KBD would have ended up being anyway. I don't think there's any way in hell the team could roll with LMA/Gasol/Metu as their three bigs. If they can get Milutinov to come over, and Metu can be the swing-big who can play both four and five, then that makes the most sense. In my mind, Metu shouldn't leave Austin until their season is over.

[duncan2150]

He's really small for center, even in the smaller college game. That's why he was a PF. He may not be able to keep up with forwards, but he'd struggle big time against bigger and stronger players. There were wings like KBD that were bigger than him. Despite the hype surrounding his vertical leap, he wasn't that impressive at the combine. I worry that he won't even have an agility advantage over centers if that's where his game goes. His only shot is going to be versatility on offense, and that suggests to me that he'll need to focus on perimeter skills.


Imo he's a PF in today's nba and he could be a small ball C. As you said he wasn't impressive at the combine but his numbers are good, and really good for the vertical leap.

If he can do other things than dunks or putback wich was the case last year : shoot, floater for exemple, he will be interesting.

[kobyz]

Drew Gooden clone!

[palangi]

Most of you were crying last year for Jordan bell last year. We Just got a guy in round 2 who is bigger, longer, just as athletic, just as good at rim protecting, and comes with a better offensive skill set.

[Chinook]

Imo he's a PF in today's nba and he could be a small ball C. As you said he wasn't impressive at the combine but his numbers are good, and really good for the vertical leap.

If he can do other things than dunks or putback wich was the case last year : shoot, floater for exemple, he will be interesting.

His leap was really good for a center. The rest were pretty mediocre:

https://stats.nba.com/draft/combine-strength-agility/#!?CF=POSITION*E*c&sort=MODIFIED_LANE_AGILITY_TIME&dir=-1

I mean, sure, he might be the Gasols of the world off the dribble, but he's not a match-up problem for modern centers. And I don't put a ton of stock into max vert for bigs. You normally get into position before trying to grab a board, so standing vert is more often applied. He wasn't great there, and with his shorter arms and height disadvantage, I don't see him having any physical edge there.

[palangi]

His leap was really good for a center. The rest were pretty mediocre:

https://stats.nba.com/draft/combine-strength-agility/#!?CF=POSITION*E*c&sort=MODIFIED_LANE_AGILITY_TIME&dir=-1

I mean, sure, he might be the Gasols of the world off the dribble, but he's not a match-up problem for modern centers. And I don't put a ton of stock into max vert for bigs. You normally get into position before trying to grab a board, so standing vert is more often applied. He wasn't great there, and with his shorter arms and height disadvantage, I don't see him having any physical edge there.

How does he have shorter arms? At 6'9" and a 7' wingspan. That is a 3"+ wingspan, which is considered very good.

[Chinook]

How does he have shorter arms? At 6'9" and a 7' wingspan. That is a 3"+ wingspan, which is considered very good.

That's not considered anything but mediocre. It's normal to have arms much longer than height when you're an NBA player. Walker's wingspan is like seven inches more than his height.

[palangi]

That's not considered anything but mediocre. It's normal to have arms much longer than height when you're an NBA player. Walker's wingspan is like seven inches more than his height.

3"+ is considered good. Metu measured 6'8.5" with a 7' .5" wingspan. That is 4 inches. Plenty long and not a worry what so ever.

[Chinook]

3"+ is considered good. Metu measured 6'8.5" with a 7' .5" wingspan. That is 4 inches. Plenty long and not a worry what so ever.

Repeating yourself doesn't make it true. 3-plus is not even abnormal for the regular human population, let alone NBA players. To put it into perspective, Metu tied at the combined for the fourth-shortest arms among centers (and since Porter and Konate went back to school, it was really like second-shortest). And that was with guys like Bamba, Carter and Ayton not attending. He was the fifth-shortest center measured, with only Omari Spellman being drafted among the players shorter measurements. And Spellman, like a normal NBA player, has a six-inch differential between his wingspan and height, and he outweighs Metu by more than 30 points while also being more skilled and having range.

https://stats.nba.com/draft/combine-anthro/#!?sort=WINGSPAN&dir=1&CF=POSITION*E*c

Those are the actual combine results for centers. Metu is really small. He's not too small to ever make it work, but it's not fine.

[TD 21]

He's really small for center, even in the smaller college game. That's why he was a PF. He may not be able to keep up with forwards, but he'd struggle big time against bigger and stronger players. There were wings like KBD that were bigger than him. Despite the hype surrounding his vertical leap, he wasn't that impressive at the combine. I worry that he won't even have an agility advantage over centers if that's where his game goes. His only shot is going to be versatility on offense, and that suggests to me that he'll need to focus on perimeter skills.

Bell is 1.5 inches shorter, with a 0.75 shorter wingspan, yet plays C. Lauvergne has a 3 inch shorter wingspan, yet plays C. If Metu goes on to have an NBA career, it'll likely be as a deep bench player. They're not going to throw him on an island against the elite, back to the basket, overpowering C's.

[spursreport]

Real-talk: I am disappointed in getting him at 49. A normal second-round pick from SA would have been fine. But I was hoping someone really interesting would fall, and someone almost did.

Anyway, I'm actually not saying Metu isn't worth a pick or that he won't develop. I just don't think he's going to be the player people expect. I think he's going to have to be an unorthodox player if he's going to make it, so comparing him to players like Capela just doesn't jive with what I see. A defensive-minded combo-forward who can play some five seems best. That's probably what KBD would have ended up being anyway. I don't think there's any way in hell the team could roll with LMA/Gasol/Metu as their three bigs. If they can get Milutinov to come over, and Metu can be the swing-big who can play both four and five, then that makes the most sense. In my mind, Metu shouldn't leave Austin until their season is over.

You wanted a washed up Birdman a few years ago, and you support a shitty ravens teams. Your opinion literally is worth jack shit. GMAFB.

[picnroll]

Metu has a standing reach 3.5” longer than Bell. Nothing to complain about. That said by statistics he doesn’t appear to have anywhere near the shot blocking or rebounding instincts of Bell.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

You wanted a washed up Birdman a few years ago, and you support a shitty ravens teams. Your opinion literally is worth jack shit. GMAFB.

radioactive

[Mugen]

This guy will be out of the league before Manu tbh, who cares :lol

[spursreport]

Metu has a standing reach 3.5” longer than Bell. Nothing to complain about. That said by statistics he doesn’t appear to have anywhere near the shot blocking or rebounding instincts of Bell.

Your opinion also means jack shit. You said you would be anti-Kawhi if they worked their differences out and he stayed a Spur. Go root for the Warriors and their soon to be imploding team, you fucking faggot.

[RD2191]

This guy will be out of the league before Manu tbh, who cares :lol

Tbh :lol

[RD2191]

Your opinion also means jack shit. You said you would be anti-Kawhi if they worked their differences out and he stayed a Spur. Go root for the Warriors and their soon to be imploding team, you fucking faggot.

:wow

[picnroll]

Your opinion also means jack shit. You said you would be anti-Kawhi if they worked their differences out and he stayed a Spur. Go root for the Warriors and their soon to be imploding team, you fucking faggot.

Which alias are you hiding behind. You and Leonard are a good match for each other pussy.

[Chinook]

Bell is 1.5 inches shorter, with a 0.75 shorter wingspan, yet plays C. Lauvergne has a 3 inch shorter wingspan, yet plays C. If Metu goes on to have an NBA career, it'll likely be as a deep bench player. They're not going to throw him on an island against the elite, back to the basket, overpowering C's.

I mean, if we're talking about him as a 15th-17th man, then whatever. No need to worry about developing him. But it makes no sense to reference Bell in defense of folks who are saying they think he's like Capela or Dedmon. They're vastly different players, with Jordan essentially being a forward who can get away with being a five in controlled situations due to his skill level and the talent around him. Metu can probably do the same, but he'll have to develop on the perimeter to offset his size.

[outmap]

Reminds me of Pops Mensah-Bonsu. My expectations are low, but I'm hoping he'd turn out okay.

[palangi]

Repeating yourself doesn't make it true. 3-plus is not even abnormal for the regular human population, let alone NBA players. To put it into perspective, Metu tied at the combined for the fourth-shortest arms among centers (and since Porter and Konate went back to school, it was really like second-shortest). And that was with guys like Bamba, Carter and Ayton not attending. He was the fifth-shortest center measured, with only Omari Spellman being drafted among the players shorter measurements. And Spellman, like a normal NBA player, has a six-inch differential between his wingspan and height, and he outweighs Metu by more than 30 points while also being more skilled and having range.

https://stats.nba.com/draft/combine-anthro/#!?sort=WINGSPAN&dir=1&CF=POSITION*E*c

Those are the actual combine results for centers. Metu is really small. He's not too small to ever make it work, but it's not fine.

Sometimes you have to repeat yourself because some here have selective reading.
4" is plenty of length.
Your judgement of basketball skill has been rather questionable in the past. So I'm not surprised with this one either.

I'm not expecting this guy to be a starter. But leyou said a third big or the 10th guy isn't far fetched.

Remember you advocated for bell in the second round last year. This guy is better

[palangi]

Reminds me of Pops Mensah-Bonsu. My expectations are low, but I'm hoping he'd turn out okay.

Shoots better and has better offensive game than pops. Also a better rim protector and rebounder

[palangi]

I mean, if we're talking about him as a 15th-17th man, then whatever. No need to worry about developing him. But it makes no sense to reference Bell in defense of folks who are saying they think he's like Capela or Dedmon. They're vastly different players, with Jordan essentially being a forward who can get away with being a five in controlled situations due to his skill level and the talent around him. Metu can probably do the same, but he'll have to develop on the perimeter to offset his size.

Why didn't Jordan have to develop a shot? You're all over the place in your evaluations.

[palangi]

Does prospect have elite length for height? (Related question: Does prospect have elite length regardless of height?)

Let’s just do Wingspan minus Height in inches, as it is easier than ratio, with at least 4″ being good, 5″ being very good, 6″ being very, very good, and better than 6″ difference between height and wingspan being exceptional. (Please forgive me if I miss someone. There’s a fair amount of names of which to keep track. Also, there are those for whom I could legitimately not find measurements like Robert Swift.)


https://www.thestepien.com/2017/11/08/2018-draft-primer-age-height-length-movement-coordination-test/

[Chinook]

Sometimes you have to repeat yourself because some here have selective reading.
4" is plenty of length.
Your judgement of basketball skill has been rather questionable in the past. So I'm not surprised with this one either.

I'm not expecting this guy to be a starter. But leyou said a third big or the 10th guy isn't far fetched.

Remember you advocated for bell in the second round last year. This guy is better

It's like your whole argument broke down, so you are trying to switch to ad homenims.

It's not "good" to have a four-inch differential, and it's not plenty. It's just normal, average, mediocre. The majority of NBA players will have that. Some will have a little less, some unfortunate souls like Joff will have significantly less. Metu's not a T-rex, but his arms aren't long enough to compensate for his lack of size. He's small, and he's not particularly explosive to the point where it doesn't matter.

You can complain all you want, but I gave you the link to the combine, and it shows that if Metu is going to be thought of as a center, he will be so while being arguably the smaller player in his group at the combine. We're talking about a guy who's standing reach is just 1.5 inches more than DeJuan fucking Blair. He's not big. His size is a problem. No need to keep trying to fight reality.


Why didn't Jordan have to develop a shot? You're all over the place in your evaluations.

Don't be such a wet noodle. First, evaluations SHOULD be "all over the place" when it comes to different players. Bell and Metu have different skill-sets, so their paths to an NBA rotation don't have the same trajectory. Second, Bell was better than Metu at damned near everything in college: http://www.tankathon.com/players/compare?players=jordan-bell--chimezie-metu -- I'd love for Chim to be great, but it's a shitty homer take to act like he was actually the superior player. Third, has Bell even made it? Homie played like 10 minutes a game and got four DNPs. I'm sure going forward the Warriors totally do want Bell to add range to his game if he's going to be a key guy for them. Fourth, Metu doesn't have to be a great three-point shooter to make it in the NBA, but he does need perimeter skills, similar to what Bell already has.

[palangi]

One thing that isn't talked abou tis metu had a 9' standing reach. Which is very good.

[Chinook]

Does prospect have elite length for height? (Related question: Does prospect have elite length regardless of height?)

Let’s just do Wingspan minus Height in inches, as it is easier than ratio, with at least 4″ being good, 5″ being very good, 6″ being very, very good, and better than 6″ difference between height and wingspan being exceptional. (Please forgive me if I miss someone. There’s a fair amount of names of which to keep track. Also, there are those for whom I could legitimately not find measurements like Robert Swift.)


https://www.thestepien.com/2017/11/08/2018-draft-primer-age-height-length-movement-coordination-test/

Those are based on in-shoes height, not barefoot height. He has Turner as having a five-inch difference, which comes from 6-11 to 7-4, not 6-10. Capela is 6-11 with shoes to 7-4(.5) with his wingspan. Metu with shoes is 6-9.5. So taking The Stepien's standard it's below the "good" range. Though you could have just looked at the combine numbers yourself and seen that the majority of the players (not even just bigs) have differences of at least that much rather than searching for something to justify your original argument.

[dabom]

Chinook for player evaluations. :lol

[palangi]

Chinook for player evaluations. :lol

His player evaluations are irreplaceable like danny green

[palangi]

Those are based on in-shoes height, not barefoot height. He has Turner as having a five-inch difference, which comes from 6-11 to 7-4, not 6-10. Capela is 6-11 with shoes to 7-4(.5) with his wingspan. Metu with shoes is 6-9.5. So taking The Stepien's standard it's below the "good" range. Though you could have just looked at the combine numbers yourself and seen that the majority of the players (not even just bigs) have differences of at least that much rather than searching for something to justify your original argument.

Nope those are shoeless

[RGMCSE]

Real-talk: I am disappointed in getting him at 49. A normal second-round pick from SA would have been fine. But I was hoping someone really interesting would fall, and someone almost did.

Anyway, I'm actually not saying Metu isn't worth a pick or that he won't develop. I just don't think he's going to be the player people expect. I think he's going to have to be an unorthodox player if he's going to make it, so comparing him to players like Capela just doesn't jive with what I see. A defensive-minded combo-forward who can play some five seems best. That's probably what KBD would have ended up being anyway. I don't think there's any way in hell the team could roll with LMA/Gasol/Metu as their three bigs. If they can get Milutinov to come over, and Metu can be the swing-big who can play both four and five, then that makes the most sense. In my mind, Metu shouldn't leave Austin until their season is over.

Well then, I guess we’ll just have to wait and see. Maybe he’s got heart and stone cold lead pipe cojones and breaks all those so called short comings.

[Chinook]

His player evaluations are irreplaceable like danny green

It's amazing that you still think you won that argument. The Spurs have been hurting for years because Danny has fallen off, and you seem to think that's evidence that he wasn't crucial to the team? The team had to have its worst season in years to draft a guy whom people feel comfortable saying is Danny's successor, and you continue acting like you were proven right.

[Chinook]

Nope those are shoeless

They're not. You can look the measurements up on that site I've given to you twice now.

[cutewizard]

:bobo

[palangi]

It's amazing that you still think you won that argument. The Spurs have been hurting for years because Danny has fallen off, and you seem to think that's evidence that he wasn't crucial to the team? The team had to have its worst season in years to draft a guy whom people feel comfortable saying is Danny's successor, and you continue acting like you were proven right.

Sometimes it isn't about winning or losing. But rather watching you say stupid stuff then watching you talk out of both sides of your mouth. I see more people are on to your game

[Chinook]

Sometimes it isn't about winning or losing. But rather watching you say stupid stuff then watching you talk out of both sides of your mouth. I see more people are on to your game

You were wrong but didn't seem to realize it. Every time you repeat it, you just demonstrate that you missed the point the first time.

[palangi]

You were wrong but didn't seem to realize it. Every time you repeat it, you just demonstrate that you missed the point the first time.

Exactly. Keep on pushing it. You don't get it.

[BackHome]

Is Palangi.... Daboom Alt?

[Chinook]

Exactly. Keep on pushing it. You don't get it.

Oh, I forgot that you're the "rubber/glue" guy. That's why you're on my ignore list.

[duncan2150]

http://www.tankathon.com/players/compare?players=jordan-bell--chimezie-metu[/url] -- I'd love for Chim to be great, but it's a shitty homer take to act like he was actually the superior player. Third, has Bell even made it? Homie played like 10 minutes a game and got four DNPs. I'm sure going forward the Warriors totally do want Bell to add range to his game if he's going to be a key guy for them. Fourth, Metu doesn't have to be a great three-point shooter to make it in the NBA, but he does need perimeter skills, similar to what Bell already has.

agree with your first take

for the second, what about the scoring ? metu is way better than bell, better shooter ( more attempt and better % at 3) , also pretty close assists numbers.

So you're right they are differents type of player but bell was not better at damned everything.

About the size 6'10 is enough, don't think he'll have to develop perimeter skills that much, with just the ability to shoot i think he'll be ok, don't know about his man on man defense but he can protect the rim.

We'll see.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

Oh, I forgot that you're the "rubber/glue" guy. That's why you're on my ignore list.

snowflake meltdown

[palangi]

snowflake meltdown

Yes, chinook is having a hard time

[BackHome]

I like Chinook don’t always agree with him but he is a top five Spurs poster as far as basketball knowledge.

[dabom]

I like Chinook don’t always agree with him but he is a top five Spurs poster as far as basketball knowledge.

:lol


What? :lol


Even he would tell you no brah. :lol

[Chinook]

agree with your first take

for the second, what about the scoring ? metu is way better than bell, better shooter ( more attempt and better % at 3) , also pretty close assists numbers.

So you're right they are differents type of player but bell was not better at damned everything.

About the size 6'10 is enough, don't think he'll have to develop perimeter skills that much, with just the ability to shoot i think he'll be ok, don't know about his man on man defense but he can protect the rim.

We'll see.

It's not just the height. He's also under 220 lbs. You can even see him on the court. He looks like a big wing, not a center. Me saying that isn't crapping all over him; it's me rebutting the comparisons and expectations people seem to be placing on him. In the old game, he would have been a small forward. In the recent-old game (like 2014ish), he would have been a perfect PF physically. Now, he's a big PF. If he's going to be a center, he'll need to get much bigger while maintaining that athleticism. Or, he could just play the four, work on his perimeter game and not have to completely change his body or limit his skill-set. It's not obvious which path is better. But SA doesn't NEED Metu to be a five, so I don't see why he'd have to develop that way.

[Chinook]

I like Chinook don’t always agree with him but he is a top five Spurs poster as far as basketball knowledge.

:tu I think we're all just ready for the Summer League at this point.

[duncan2150]

It's not just the height. He's also under 220 lbs. You can even see him on the court. He looks like a big wing, not a center. Me saying that isn't crapping all over him; it's me rebutting the comparisons and expectations people seem to be placing on him. In the old game, he would have been a small forward. In the recent-old game (like 2014ish), he would have been a perfect PF physically. Now, he's a big PF. If he's going to be a center, he'll need to get much bigger while maintaining that athleticism. Or, he could just play the four, work on his perimeter game and not have to completely change his body or limit his skill-set. It's not obvious which path is better. But SA doesn't NEED Metu to be a five, so I don't see why he'd have to develop that way.

Like i said in this thread he’s a PF for me and maybe a small ball C so i agree.

[palangi]

I like Chinook don’t always agree with him but he is a top five Spurs poster as far as basketball knowledge.

Chinook is very knowledgeable no doubt. Especially when it comes to financials and the salary cap.
But he is al over the place on player evaluations.

[BackHome]

Speaking of PF how would your rate Livio Vs. Metu..........Yes Livio had a knee injury and pretty much sucked but I watched a lot of this years summer games and he seemed like a new man. He was athletic and able to hit outside shots including some threes and was still getting rebounds and surprisingly was a very good passer.

[tholdren]

I like Chinook don’t always agree with him but he is a top five Spurs poster as far as basketball knowledge.

Lol. Hes a beautiful mind with the salary and rules and stats.

[Chinook]

Speaking of PF how would your rate Livio Vs. Metu..........Yes Livio had a knee injury and pretty much sucked but I watched a lot of this years summer games and he seemed like a new man. He was athletic and able to hit outside shots including some threes and was still getting rebounds and surprisingly was a very good passer.

18-year-old Livio was a better player and prospect than 21-year-old Metu. It's hard to really compare them beyond generalities, because back then, Livio's physical profile projected him as a combo-forward in a bad way. He didn't have the skill or range to be an SF, but he was too small to be a power-forward. I think Livio had a clearer path to the NBA, because he was an intriguing defensive prospect who just needed to find a way to get points (which he could do off rebounds and dunk-ins but not on the perimeter). I think he had a chance to be like Mbah a Moute, though better able to guard centers and not nearly as capable against SGs was LRMaM was at the time. Metu, for all of the hype around his rim-protection, doesn't seem like a very good defender, and his offensive game doesn't seem much better than Livio's.

Metu, like Joff last pre-season, just seems more ambitious in what he's willing to try on the court and could get away with it in college. LJC seems to play within himself to the point that he looks about the same no matter how good his teammates are. Jean-Charles is the poster child for why draft-and-stashing first-rounders is almost always bad. He was a good enough prospect who agreed to stay over for a few years and ended up wasting everyone's time. I can't say that he wouldn't have gotten hurt had he come over and forsook international ball, but had he stayed healthy and gotten real NBA coaching, I think he'd be a rotation player somewhere right now. As it is, I still think he should get a two-way deal with the club, just to see what he can do. He can't even get minutes in the summer league, though.

I hope Metu starts next week. Only way I want him coming off the bench is if Milutinov and Blossomgame are the starting bigs. I have a bad feeling they're going to give Cory Jefferson big minutes, though. I like Cory well enough, but dude has no future in SA and shouldn't be taking time away from Metu, LJC or even LaLanne. I've never seen a team prioritize guys they have no plans to keep more than the Spurs.

[objective]

Milutinov has national team obligations that might not be met due to a knee injury

I would be very surprised if he's playing on summer league

[kobyz]

It's not just the height. He's also under 220 lbs. You can even see him on the court. He looks like a big wing, not a center. Me saying that isn't crapping all over him; it's me rebutting the comparisons and expectations people seem to be placing on him. In the old game, he would have been a small forward. In the recent-old game (like 2014ish), he would have been a perfect PF physically. Now, he's a big PF. If he's going to be a center, he'll need to get much bigger while maintaining that athleticism. Or, he could just play the four, work on his perimeter game and not have to completely change his body or limit his skill-set. It's not obvious which path is better. But SA doesn't NEED Metu to be a five, so I don't see why he'd have to develop that way.

He has identically same body as john collins

[cutewizard]

Metu shall emerge

[Chinook]

He has identically same body as john collins

A) He's not. Collins was six pounds heavier during the draft and is almost 20 pounds heavier than that now. It's easy to go "Well Metu will add the weight too", but if he adds that much, it'll probably affect his athleticism, and he didn't have a ton of agility to spare at it was. That never mattered to Collins.

B) Collins plays PF. We aren't discussing if Metu can play there.

C) Collins a great offensive player and rebounder, you may as well bring up Jordan Bell again.

D) Has Buford come out and said "Metu is going to be a center"? The need to try to justify him there is surprising.

[FireMicoHalili]

I feel the same way Chinook does about Metu. Bates-Diop could have been a better pick especially since Gay left and there isn’t a lot of athleticism in the wing position, with or without Leonard. Senior college player, great wingspan, sound fundamentals make Bates-Diop a great pick at 49. Metu won’t be a Jordan Bell but I’m hoping he becomes more like a John Collins. Body type seems like he can’t add much more weight and his shoulders seem narrow, though the thick, plodding center isn’t exactly a commodity nowadays. Interesting to see how he fits.

[kobyz]

A) He's not. Collins was six pounds heavier during the draft and is almost 20 pounds heavier than that now. It's easy to go "Well Metu will add the weight too", but if he adds that much, it'll probably affect his athleticism, and he didn't have a ton of agility to spare at it was. That never mattered to Collins.

B) Collins plays PF. We aren't discussing if Metu can play there.

C) Collins a great offensive player and rebounder, you may as well bring up Jordan Bell again.

D) Has Buford come out and said "Metu is going to be a center"? The need to try to justify him there is surprising.
Collins played 99% of his time last year at center position, he has same narrow body type as matu, matu is same type of player as collins just not as dynamic...

[Chinook]

Collins played 99% of his time last year at center position, he has same narrow body type as matu, matu is same type of player as collins just not as dynamic...

Collins played the majority of his minutes at PF. And no, they're very different. Collins was my guy last year (like Walker this year). He was not like Metu at all.

[kobyz]

Collins played the majority of his minutes at PF. And no, they're very different. Collins was my guy last year (like Walker this year). He was not like Metu at all.

Just at the end of the season Budd start to use him as pf a little, before that he was the deadmon subtitue and never playing both together...

[Chinook]

Just at the end of the season Budd start to use him as pf a little, before that he was the deadmon subtitue and never playing both together...

He played Collins with a seven-footer 1100 minutes last season. You have to go all the way down to his 10-most used lineup to find one where he's the single big -- and that was for a whopping 31 minutes last season. Collins playing "center" with another guy his size who also plays PF/C is not what people usually mean when talking about Metu. If Chim plays with LMA, sure, he may be listed as a center, but he wouldn't be the single-in, rim-protecting big people are envisioning.

[Pavlov]

From my limited knowledge I'm actually a little higher on this pick than past 2nd rounders. Footwork, pick and roll moves and passing show a little polish. Nice baby hook that might get over NBA defenders. Some range on his jumper. Not a good rebounder for his size and frame isn't going to take much more weight. May actually get some minutes for the mothership someday. Would like to see how he compares to Costello and Putney in summer league.

[kobyz]

He played Collins with a seven-footer 1100 minutes last season. You have to go all the way down to his 10-most used lineup to find one where he's the single big -- and that was for a whopping 31 minutes last season. Collins playing "center" with another guy his size who also plays PF/C is not what people usually mean when talking about Metu. If Chim plays with LMA, sure, he may be listed as a center, but he wouldn't be the single-in, rim-protecting big people are envisioning.

He play a lot with bigs such as ilyasova and muscala who are more strach four...

[BackHome]

Metu is not a Center he is a PF who may on occasion play Center when teams go small ball.

[Chinook]

He play a lot with bigs such as ilyasova and muscala who are more strach four...

Ersan and Musc both play a lot of center/single big in their own rights. They certainly are defensive centers at this point in their careers, and they're not very good at it. All this is why ATL was terrible last year. If winning games isn't a requirement, then Metu can play PG.

[Chinook]

I feel the same way Chinook does about Metu. Bates-Diop could have been a better pick especially since Gay left and there isn’t a lot of athleticism in the wing position, with or without Leonard. Senior college player, great wingspan, sound fundamentals make Bates-Diop a great pick at 49. Metu won’t be a Jordan Bell but I’m hoping he becomes more like a John Collins. Body type seems like he can’t add much more weight and his shoulders seem narrow, though the thick, plodding center isn’t exactly a commodity nowadays. Interesting to see how he fits.

I think KBD looks like a better player/prospect too. But he was drafted before the Spurs picked. I don't blame them for not selecting him.

[Chinook]

From my limited knowledge I'm actually a little higher on this pick than past 2nd rounders. Footwork, pick and roll moves and passing show a little polish. Nice baby hook that might get over NBA defenders. Some range on his jumper. Not a good rebounder for his size and frame isn't going to take much more weight. May actually get some minutes for the mothership someday. Would like to see how he compares to Costello and Putney in summer league.

Me too. As I said, I hope he starts. I don't see a reasonable justification for going into the off-season without plans for Metu to be at least a two-way guy. I hope he gets PF minutes too, so we can see how well his perimeter skills work against better competition. Some of his moves look great, but it's against guys who won't even make the g-league. Reminds me of those vids of Ryan Richards dominating 6-3 guys in high school.

[MaNu4Tres]

LOL at arguing over whether a big is a C or PF in 2018.

As more and more teams are fielding 3-4 wings in lineups, bigs will only be playing the "5" spot as the lone big on the floor. Metu will fill the role as a PnR/diving big with versatility to pop on occasion for a mid range.