Bruce Bowen rips Kawhi Leonard: "Are you kidding me?"

[tdunk21]

Speaking on Sirius XM NBA Radio on Thursday night, Bowen said: "First, it was, 'Well I was misdiagnosed.' Look here: You got $18 million this year, and you think that they're trying to rush you? You didn't play for the most part a full season this year. And you're the go-to guy, you're the franchise and you want to say that they didn't have your best interest at heart? Are you kidding me?"

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23876933/bruce-bowen-rips-kawhi-leonard-san-antonio-spurs-not-one-said-anything

[lefty]

Well Bowen wasn't an all star, he doesn't know what he's talking about tbh

[tholdren]

Great work bruce. Keep it up

[RD2191]

Well Bowen wasn't an all star, he doesn't know what he's talking about tbh

Tbh

[tholdren]

Tbh

Over 100k between you two and not one brain cell. Sad

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Over 100k between you two and not one brain cell. Sad

It's well known that posts per year (ppy) and brain activity are pretty inversely related.

[ducks]

Bruce works for the clippers

[Clipper Nation]

Bruce works for the clippers

Only as an announcer. And no shit, he's going to side with the Spurs. They're still the team he won rings with and who retired his number.

[JFK]

Only as an announcer. And no shit, he's going to side with the Spurs. They're still the team he won rings with and who retired his number.

That fact. Otherwise he would be managing a Dick’s Sporting Goods somewhere.

He’s also correct. This idiot hasn’t come out and said anything up to now and made things worse. He should be the one talking and not Uncle Dennis through that hack Jabari Young.

[BSfromTX]

I do think Bowen was a bit salty when Leonard made everyone forget him pretty quick

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Bruce is expecting too much There's nothing in Kawhi's makeup to say he's a team leader. He's shown he's a puppet to his uncle at this point.

He can be a stat leader...no doubt. But he's not going to motivate or inspire. He's proven he's either not ready for that role, or just doesn't care to be, or is just incapable of being that guy (which is my belief). He'll make a great Pippen to some team's Jordan though. A great supporting piece to a giant ego somewhere, because Kawhi will just play the game and go home and stay out of the real leader's way. Team him with Lebron and some spot up shooters and they'll win three or four rings together.

[daslicer]

Bruce is expecting too much There's nothing in Kawhi's makeup to say he's a team leader. He's shown he's a puppet to his uncle at this point.

He can be a stat leader...no doubt. But he's not going to motivate or inspire. He's proven he's either not ready for that role, or just doesn't care to be, or is just incapable of being that guy (which is my belief). He'll make a great Pippen to some team's Jordan though. A great supporting piece to a giant ego somewhere, because Kawhi will just play the game and go home and stay out of the real leader's way. Team him with Lebron and some spot up shooters and they'll win three or four rings together.

He has a Klay Thompson type of mentality without the personality or social skills.

[Play Boban]

I do think Bowen was a bit salty when Leonard made everyone forget him pretty quick
:cry

[dbestpro]

I would like to see one team, any team play hard ball and start being physical. Push the NBA refs to call 70 fouls if you have to. Eventually, the calls will go your way, the role of the center will return, and the super team concept will die.

[BackHome]

Yes Yes Yes

[lefty]

Over 100k between you two and not one brain cell. Sad

You mad? :lmao

[tonight...you]

I would like to see one team, any team play hard ball and start being physical. Push the NBA refs to call 70 fouls if you have to. Eventually, the calls will go your way, the role of the center will return, and the super team concept will die.
Go full-on 80's Detroit Pistons in this day and age... Jordan Rules for every team!
I like it. Just embrace your inner thug and everybody go heightened Draymond. And make sure you whine and have your mommas complain publicly!

Damn snowflakes can't take a little D? The officiating is ridiculous! These guys aren't fouling! They're passionately playing D!

I'm ready.

[tonight...you]

You mad? :lmao
I certainly am, but not at you - you're awesome.

[daslicer]

I would like to see one team, any team play hard ball and start being physical. Push the NBA refs to call 70 fouls if you have to. Eventually, the calls will go your way, the role of the center will return, and the super team concept will die.

Yup that's what 90's Knicks used to do when it came to fouling. They would dare the refs to call every foul and eventually the refs would let things go.

[Spurtacular]

Kawhi no longer gets a pass on being a mute. If he can't speak up, then that's his problem. Speaking through surrogates is the coward's way out.

[Spurtacular]

Only as an announcer. And no shit, he's going to side with the Spurs. They're still the team he won rings with and who retired his number.

Until they didn't. :lmao

[barbacoataco]

As a longtime Spurs fan Bowen is one of my top 5 Spurs ever. His defense was truly special and he could guard a huge range of players. I remember having great seat at a Blazers game around 2006 and seeing him shut down Brandon Roy and Zack Randolph when needed. He also shot over 40% 3 pt not only in the regular season but also in the playoffs like clockwork.

Now you've seen more and more players and others saying things against Leonard. As a Spurs fan for life I'm not going to side with him over Bowen, Ginobili, Parker, Popovich etc. I hope they work things out. If I was PATFO I would make him play next year and then trade him to an Eastern Confrrence contender midseason. If he he refuses to play his value will continue to decline and his skills deteriorate. If he plays well the Spurs could play him of try to make a playoff run. If they were to win a championship next year all might be forgiven.

Besides all that I actually think Leonard will always have injury problems and his best is already in the past.

[tholdren]

You mad? :lmao

That you have no intelligence. Far from it. Comedy gold seeing your posts and watching you defend them. Keep going strong.

[Othyus Lalanne]

Well Bowen wasn't an all star, he doesn't know what he's talking about tbh

Is this supposed to be ironic?

[duncan2k5]

Bruce is expecting too much There's nothing in Kawhi's makeup to say he's a team leader. He's shown he's a puppet to his uncle at this point.

He can be a stat leader...no doubt. But he's not going to motivate or inspire. He's proven he's either not ready for that role, or just doesn't care to be, or is just incapable of being that guy (which is my belief). He'll make a great Pippen to some team's Jordan though. A great supporting piece to a giant ego somewhere, because Kawhi will just play the game and go home and stay out of the real leader's way. Team him with Lebron and some spot up shooters and they'll win three or four rings together.

U weren't saying that when he was dominating against the best players and best team in the league tho... How sour are those grapes?

[duncan2k5]

Ppl saying Kawhi is at fault for not saying anything, as if the Spurs camp has been overly talkative... Both have been silent, and probably by design

[Mr. Body]

Ppl saying Kawhi is at fault for not saying anything, as if the Spurs camp has been overly talkative... Both have been silent, and probably by design

The Spurs always keep things in house. Hell, Tony screwing Brent Barry's wife would have been major news for months on any other team.

[tholdren]

Ppl saying Kawhi is at fault for not saying anything, as if the Spurs camp has been overly talkative... Both have been silent, and probably by design

You finding a new team?

[cutewizard]

As a longtime Spurs fan Bowen is one of my top 5 Spurs ever. His defense was truly special and he could guard a huge range of players. I remember having great seat at a Blazers game around 2006 and seeing him shut down Brandon Roy and Zack Randolph when needed. He also shot over 40% 3 pt not only in the regular season but also in the playoffs like clockwork.

Now you've seen more and more players and others saying things against Leonard. As a Spurs fan for life I'm not going to side with him over Bowen, Ginobili, Parker, Popovich etc. I hope they work things out. If I was PATFO I would make him play next year and then trade him to an Eastern Confrrence contender midseason. If he he refuses to play his value will continue to decline and his skills deteriorate. If he plays well the Spurs could play him of try to make a playoff run. If they were to win a championship next year all might be forgiven.

Besides all that I actually think Leonard will always have injury problems and his best is already in the past.

Agree.

[ducks]

The Spurs always keep things in house. Hell, Tony screwing Brent Barry's wife would have been major news for months on any other team.

He never did
He would have been traded

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

He never did
He would have been traded

seriously, ducks?

from the team’s perspective, confirmed double-marriage-busting sexting has gotta be = to double-marriage-busting sexing


and noone can convince me that tony didnt tap that when he obviously had the chance

sorry barry i love you as a player and personality but cmon

[Ice009]

The Spurs always keep things in house. Hell, Tony screwing Brent Barry's wife would have been major news for months on any other team.

Can people fucking parroting this around????????

How many times are people going to fucking say this as fact??????????? If he screwed Brent's wife HE WOULD NOT have still been on the team. Pop wouldn't have allowed him to remain on the team and I think TD wouldn't have wanted him there either.

[YGWHI]

Bruce is expecting too much There's nothing in Kawhi's makeup to say he's a team leader. He's shown he's a puppet to his uncle at this point.

He can be a stat leader...no doubt. But he's not going to motivate or inspire. He's proven he's either not ready for that role, or just doesn't care to be, or is just incapable of being that guy (which is my belief). He'll make a great Pippen to some team's Jordan though. A great supporting piece to a giant ego somewhere, because Kawhi will just play the game and go home and stay out of the real leader's way. Team him with Lebron and some spot up shooters and they'll win three or four rings together.

Pippen role? Nah...KD isn't a leader and didn't take a Pippen role in GSW.

I doubt that Harden cares about his teammates or motivate/inspire theam...I doubt CP3 cares about the franchise he plays for...I wouldn't call them positive leaders.

Bowen just talks about leadership because that's the only thing that he can say about Kawhi.

Tim Duncan was the last team-leader. I love Dirk but he wasn't exactly that guy in the locker room during his prime.

Leadership is overrated by Spurs fans, if we see other fanbases, they care about players that help them to win. Kawhi helped us to win a ring and many playoffs games, that should have been enough.

[BackHome]

Kawhi can’t wipe his own ass nor can he actually talk it seems. He has been mind fucked by Uncle Fester
but ur more then welcome to join his Ass cleaning crew “the great yacht, tholden, Rd”. Change Kawhi name to KY.

[RD2191]

Kawhi can’t wipe his own ass nor can he actually talk it seems. He has been mind fucked by Uncle Fester
but ur more then welcome to join his Ass cleaning crew “the great yacht, tholden, Rd”. Change Kawhi name to KY.

Go home son.

[BackHome]

Don’t be bitter Rob u know the saying “ Behind every cloud there is a silver lining”. :toast

[poop]

Yup that's what 90's Knicks used to do when it came to fouling. They would dare the refs to call every foul and eventually the refs would let things go.

NBA Generation SJW Snowflake couldnt handle that. They would have curry and durant doing PSA commercials about 'bullies and meanies'.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

U weren't saying that when he was dominating against the best players and best team in the league tho... How sour are those grapes?

Don't get me wrong. I think he's a great basketball player. You don't have to be a leader to be great at playing a sport.


If a team doesn't need their best player to be a leader, as some have said, then I would say he's perfect......if he shows up.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Pippen role? Nah...KD isn't a leader and didn't take a Pippen role in GSW.

I doubt that Harden cares about his teammates or motivate/inspire theam...I doubt CP3 cares about the franchise he plays for...I wouldn't call them positive leaders.

Bowen just talks about leadership because that's the only thing that he can say about Kawhi.

Tim Duncan was the last team-leader. I love Dirk but he wasn't exactly that guy in the locker room during his prime.

Leadership is overrated by Spurs fans, if we see other fanbases, they care about players that help them to win. Kawhi helped us to win a ring and many playoffs games, that should have been enough.


You might be right...I don't really know for sure. It seems, though, that most dynastic teams have had a personality, motivation and/or inspiration from their guys at the top. Duncan, Shaq/Kobe, Jordan, Magic, etc. I do think a team needs some form of leadership to truly get to the next level. A collection of talent, no matter how good, needs someone pulling it all together. And in today's NBA that's certainly not the coach. Role players don't command enough respect in most cases. That kind of leaves the guys who can fill the stat sheet.

The Warriors seem to be breaking that mold a bit, because I'm not sure who the outright "leader" is. Perhaps it's by committee for them, which might be what the Spurs could emulate.

[daslicer]

You might be right...I don't really know for sure. It seems, though, that most dynastic teams have had a personality, motivation and/or inspiration from their guys at the top. Duncan, Shaq/Kobe, Jordan, Magic, etc. I do think a team needs some form of leadership to truly get to the next level. A collection of talent, no matter how good, needs someone pulling it all together. And in today's NBA that's certainly not the coach. Role players don't command enough respect in most cases. That kind of leaves the guys who can fill the stat sheet.

The Warriors seem to be breaking that mold a bit, because I'm not sure who the outright "leader" is. Perhaps it's by committee for them, which might be what the Spurs could emulate.

Draymond Green is the leader of the Warriors and he's a role player.

[tholdren]

You might be right...I don't really know for sure. It seems, though, that most dynastic teams have had a personality, motivation and/or inspiration from their guys at the top. Duncan, Shaq/Kobe, Jordan, Magic, etc. I do think a team needs some form of leadership to truly get to the next level. A collection of talent, no matter how good, needs someone pulling it all together. And in today's NBA that's certainly not the coach. Role players don't command enough respect in most cases. That kind of leaves the guys who can fill the stat sheet.

The Warriors seem to be breaking that mold a bit, because I'm not sure who the outright "leader" is. Perhaps it's by committee for them, which might be what the Spurs could emulate.
The nba is so hard up for talent it is embarassing

[james evans]

Ppl saying Kawhi is at fault for not saying anything, as if the Spurs camp has been overly talkative... Both have been silent, and probably by design


The Spurs always keep things in house. Hell, Tony screwing Brent Barry's wife would have been major news for months on any other team.
spurs fans, ahem, white people, statements the past few years AND this season.

The past 10 years or so : "The Spurs are a classy organization. Nothing ever leaks out and that's great that we don't have too many talkative players on our team. Tim was quiet and so is Leonard. We need more of that in the league. "

This season: "WHY IS THAT ****** REFUSING TO TALK???? GET THAT MUTE/RETARD/AUTISTIC QUIET PLAYER THE HELL OFF MY TEAM!!"

[HarlemHeat37]

You might be right...I don't really know for sure. It seems, though, that most dynastic teams have had a personality, motivation and/or inspiration from their guys at the top. Duncan, Shaq/Kobe, Jordan, Magic, etc. I do think a team needs some form of leadership to truly get to the next level. A collection of talent, no matter how good, needs someone pulling it all together. And in today's NBA that's certainly not the coach. Role players don't command enough respect in most cases. That kind of leaves the guys who can fill the stat sheet.

The Warriors seem to be breaking that mold a bit, because I'm not sure who the outright "leader" is. Perhaps it's by committee for them, which might be what the Spurs could emulate.

I don't think anybody ever considered Shaq or Kobe to be good leaders, and I'd question whether Jordan was ever a good leader..Phil Jackson's strongest attribute was his leadership, he wasn't a particularly great coach, I'd say he was their leader..

Most teams that win titles are full of veterans, they don't really need leadership unless there are some questionable people in the locker room that need direction IMO..

[E20]

Stephen A ripping Kawhi a new one on First Take. Thank you Stephen A.

[ECOV]

Stephen A ripping Kawhi a new one on First Take. Thank you Stephen A.

Vid?

[Extra Stout]

Can people fucking parroting this around????????

How many times are people going to fucking say this as fact??????????? If he screwed Brent's wife HE WOULD NOT have still been on the team. Pop wouldn't have allowed him to remain on the team and I think TD wouldn't have wanted him there either.
They exchanged inappropriate text messages and had gotten emotionally involved. Supposedly nothing physical happened. The rumors were that the Barrys were splitting up anyway, but that the fling had a lot to do with why Parker and Eva Longoria got divorced.

[E20]

Vid?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQks07UgKNs

[SAGirl]

You might be right...I don't really know for sure. It seems, though, that most dynastic teams have had a personality, motivation and/or inspiration from their guys at the top. Duncan, Shaq/Kobe, Jordan, Magic, etc. I do think a team needs some form of leadership to truly get to the next level. A collection of talent, no matter how good, needs someone pulling it all together. And in today's NBA that's certainly not the coach. Role players don't command enough respect in most cases. That kind of leaves the guys who can fill the stat sheet.

The Warriors seem to be breaking that mold a bit, because I'm not sure who the outright "leader" is. Perhaps it's by committee for them, which might be what the Spurs could emulate.
Raymond has been the leader... Whether it's acknowledged or not. Klay and Curry could always shoot but GSW didn't become what they are until Raymond grew up and developed as a player. I'll give him that much credit. He couldn't do what he does anywhere else but he complements their stars and has the competitive drive to step on necks when he has to.

[CosmicCowboy]

They exchanged inappropriate text messages and had gotten emotionally involved. Supposedly nothing physical happened. The rumors were that the Barrys were splitting up anyway, but that the fling had a lot to do with why Parker and Eva Longoria got divorced.

Erin Barry was 10 times hotter than Eva Longoria. Cant blame Tony if she put it out there.

[BillMc]

They exchanged inappropriate text messages and had gotten emotionally involved. Supposedly nothing physical happened. The rumors were that the Barrys were splitting up anyway, but that the fling had a lot to do with why Parker and Eva Longoria got divorced.

this

[TheDoctor]

They exchanged inappropriate text messages and had gotten emotionally involved. Supposedly nothing physical happened. The rumors were that the Barrys were splitting up anyway, but that the fling had a lot to do with why Parker and Eva Longoria got divorced.

Yeah because they were teenagers :lmao

Let's not be so naive, HoTS shedded that skin in Erin's cave.

[picnroll]

this
So Parker and Erin Barry never had a sexual relationship, just sexting and all this indignant outrage over flirting. wtf

[Extra Stout]

So Parker and Erin Barry never had a sexual relationship, just sexting and all this indignant outrage over flirting. wtfA lot of women see emotional affairs as being almost as bad, if not just as bad, as sexual affairs. Men are either oblivious or don’t see solely emotional affairs as being as serious, typically in retrospect after they end before becoming physical.

[BackHome]

Every married man that I have known was texting another women was texting when to fuck. Ok I know one only one guy who I convinced not to cheat on his wife cause the girl was a money grubbing whore. Ladies if ur reading this mid life crisis is for real so let him get the sports car or he going to screw the 20 year old stripper

[32fastest]

Bruce is expecting too much There's nothing in Kawhi's makeup to say he's a team leader. He's shown he's a puppet to his uncle at this point.

He can be a stat leader...no doubt. But he's not going to motivate or inspire. He's proven he's either not ready for that role, or just doesn't care to be, or is just incapable of being that guy (which is my belief). He'll make a great Pippen to some team's Jordan though. A great supporting piece to a giant ego somewhere, because Kawhi will just play the game and go home and stay out of the real leader's way. Team him with Lebron and some spot up shooters and they'll win three or four rings together.

Pretty good. :bobo

[32fastest]

Every married man that I have known was texting another women was texting when to fuck. Ok I know one only one guy who I convinced not to cheat on his wife cause the girl was a money grubbing whore. Ladies if ur reading this mid life crisis is for real so let him get the sports car or he going to screw the 20 year old stripper

that escalated quickly

[spurs10]

Can people fucking parroting this around????????

How many times are people going to fucking say this as fact??????????? If he screwed Brent's wife HE WOULD NOT have still been on the team. Pop wouldn't have allowed him to remain on the team and I think TD wouldn't have wanted him there either. Thank you! Erin Barry is a class act. If you hear her side of the story you wouldn't believe this ridiculous nonsense. Brent is the one who screwed up and she divorced him. That's the end of the story....and yes no way Pop would have allowed this in the first place. Tony would be living in China right now.

[NameLess Scrub]

You might be right...I don't really know for sure. It seems, though, that most dynastic teams have had a personality, motivation and/or inspiration from their guys at the top. Duncan, Shaq/Kobe, Jordan, Magic, etc. I do think a team needs some form of leadership to truly get to the next level. A collection of talent, no matter how good, needs someone pulling it all together. And in today's NBA that's certainly not the coach. Role players don't command enough respect in most cases. That kind of leaves the guys who can fill the stat sheet.

The Warriors seem to be breaking that mold a bit, because I'm not sure who the outright "leader" is. Perhaps it's by committee for them, which might be what the Spurs could emulate.

I think with that collection of talent, leadership and coaching are not huge factors.

[NameLess Scrub]

Thank you! Erin Barry is a class act. If you hear her side of the story you wouldn't believe this ridiculous nonsense. Brent is the one who screwed up and she divorced him. That's the end of the story....and yes no way Pop would have allowed this in the first place. Tony would be living in China right now.

Well, you're hearing her side after all :lol :lol

[duncan2k5]

The Spurs always keep things in house. Hell, Tony screwing Brent Barry's wife would have been major news for months on any other team.

Thats my point...its cool when spurs do it, but when a naturally quiet player does it, its a problem? Its bot as if the dude was draymond, and suddenly went quiet...both sides have the ability to speak, both sides choose not to

[duncan2k5]

He never did
He would have been traded

He most def did...

[Ice009]

He most def did...

How in the F would you know? Where you there?

[Ginobilly]

He never did
He would have been traded

Bullshit!
Parker is a star player! If it was somebody like danny green, yeah, pop would of shipped his ass to the bobcats. Star players get more leeway than scrubs.

If i remember correctly, erin denied it in the media like a typical gal whose been busted. Parker just kept his mouth shut and refused to answer questions pertaining to the affair. Pop didn't say much either.

[Dverde]

I thought they got busted sexting each other. I don’t think anyone ever admitted to a physical encounter. Eva probably found a lot more stuff when she went snooping.

[Maj_G]

At least now we know who pays for all this negative publicity against Kawhi, it's most likely the Clippers. Who are reportedly very aggressive in acquiring Kawhi.

[Maj_G]

Why Bruce went to LA, did he do it for money? Or he is working for free? Now he degrades Kawhi! Kawhi is going to La for his family, and make more money. It's basically the same thing.

KD explained it on a podcast, you are in California to invest. Many NBA players nowadays do. According to KD, Iguodala is a tycoon. Look at Magic, he is doing pretty well himself. If you were Kawhi, NBA pays well, but you can be making so much more and it will last for the rest of your life.

[DPG21920]

Why Bruce went to LA, did he do it for money? Or he is working for free? Now he degrades Kawhi! Kawhi is going to La for his family, and make more money. It's basically the same thing.

KD explained it on a podcast, you are in California to invest. Many NBA players nowadays do. According to KD, Iguodala is a tycoon. Look at Magic, he is doing pretty well himself. If you were Kawhi, NBA pays well, but you can be making so much more and it will last for the rest of your life.

Lebron doesn’t live in LA and he has more money then all of them.

[daslicer]

Why Bruce went to LA, did he do it for money? Or he is working for free? Now he degrades Kawhi! Kawhi is going to La for his family, and make more money. It's basically the same thing.

KD explained it on a podcast, you are in California to invest. Many NBA players nowadays do. According to KD, Iguodala is a tycoon. Look at Magic, he is doing pretty well himself. If you were Kawhi, NBA pays well, but you can be making so much more and it will last for the rest of your life.

:lol The money Kawhi made will already last the rest of his life.