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Capt Bringdown
06-23-2018, 01:43 PM
Why Do We Need More People In This Country, Anyway? ---> (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-do-we-need-more-people-in-this-country-anyway/2018/06/21/4ee8b620-7565-11e8-9780-b1dd6a09b549_story.html?utm_term=.a30e64260782)

Economists in league with big business got good at torturing data to “show” that immigration benefits the economy. But as demonstrated by Harvard University’s George Borjas, one of the nation’s leading economists on the topic, immigration is a net economic benefit to immigrants and to their employers. To workers already here, not so much.

The basic question remains. The pat answer over the past 20 years — “to do the jobs Americans just won’t do” — may seem to have some salience with a 3.9 percent unemployment rate. But that only further raises the question. After at least two decades of wage stagnation and even decline, now that we’ve finally reached the nirvana of full employment (and who knows how long it will last), why not take advantage of this tight labor market to raise wages across the board? Especially for the working and middle classes that got nowhere or even lost ground during the housing, finance and tech booms of recent years?

Just about everyone knows the answer: because the business community does not like tight labor markets and the concomitant necessity to raise wages. That’s bad for the bottom line. The solution? More workers! And so the Chamber of Commerce annex — a.k.a. Capitol Hill Republicans — dutifully attempt to do their donors’ bidding at the expense of their voters’ interests.

We know how more immigration benefits big business and the Democratic Party. No one has yet convincingly explained how it benefits the American people as a whole. That’s the foremost consideration that should drive our immigration debate, and that’s what should determine our immigration policy.

sickdsm
06-23-2018, 01:59 PM
The quality of workers has been steadily deteriorating. You can't just say increase wages. An employee has to make the employer money. A fuck up doesn't mean $100 wasted any more. A bad decision can mean $20k or$200k just as well. Good employees are ABSOLUTELY worth good wages. I know farm employees making $10/he that are overpaid. I also know one making $65k a and another (Mexican) $90k that may be under paid. Great welder, mechanic, competent tractor driver etc....

boutons_deux
06-23-2018, 02:01 PM
If the job market gets too tight (independent from Fed's other goal of inflation mgmt), wages start to rise (but no inflation), Fed will raise rates to kill a few 100K jobs, ACA, excess labor.

Capital requires that there always be an excess of Labor, and what Capital wants, Capitalist Tool the Fed delivers.

monosylab1k
06-23-2018, 02:02 PM
The founding fathers wanted it that way, that’s why. Unless you’re saying that the principles of the founding fathers are up for debate, in which case let’s talk immigrants and then guns.

boutons_deux
06-23-2018, 02:27 PM
The founding fathers wanted it that way, that’s why.

??? the FFs were 100+ years before the wealthy created the Fed.

FFs wanted what? "that way"?

Spurtacular
06-23-2018, 11:11 PM
The founding fathers wanted it that way, that’s why. Unless you’re saying that the principles of the founding fathers are up for debate, in which case let’s talk immigrants and then guns.

History for douches, brought to you by slob.

:lmao

Winehole23
06-24-2018, 01:50 AM
Completely unprotected borders and free movement of human beings was one of the best things about the USA and we were justly admired for it. Until the 1920s we had very little immigration law, but what little we did was was racist to the bone. Its sequel would be too and would be studied by A. Hiedler...

Before that, we basically had open borders all the way back to the beginning. I doubt we'll get the reputation for being welcoming and free back anytime soon.

DMC
06-24-2018, 02:33 AM
I remember when some local lakes had open gates 24 hours a day. Now you have to pay to enter and they close at dark. It seems people misused the lake and parks especially when no one was looking. There was an honor box up front that nighttime people would be requested to drop money into to cover the costs of cleaning the park in the morning. The boxes were damaged and stolen, and when they weren't there was rarely any money in them yet the lake shores were littered with beer cans and food bags along with whatever trash people didn't want in their vehicles, and fish remains from not using the cleaning station, using the shoreline instead and discarding the fish on the bank which attracted raccoons which further damaged the park resources.

When it gets to be too much, partly because degradation of "give a shit" and the increase in numbers create anonymity which seems to empower assholes to be themselves, rules change. Those changes not only affect the assholes, but the decent, law abiding people as well.

Same is true for the borders. There are well intended people trying to survive who get lumped in with the mass influx of coyote crops. They all get scooped up in one fell swoop and that's when individuals get separated from others. It's not desirable just as closing the gates to public lakes isn't desirable, but if you don't want a 3rd world existence you have to do something to avoid it.

Spurtacular
06-24-2018, 02:37 AM
I remember when some local lakes had open gates 24 hours a day. Now you have to pay to enter and they close at dark. It seems people misused the lake and parks especially when no one was looking. There was an honor box up front that nighttime people would be requested to drop money into to cover the costs of cleaning the park in the morning. The boxes were damaged and stolen, and when they weren't there was rarely any money in them yet the lake shores were littered with beer cans and food bags along with whatever trash people didn't want in their vehicles, and fish remains from not using the cleaning station, using the shoreline instead and discarding the fish on the bank which attracted raccoons which further damaged the park resources.

When it gets to be too much, partly because degradation of "give a shit" and the increase in numbers create anonymity which seems to empower assholes to be themselves, rules change. Those changes not only affect the assholes, but the decent, law abiding people as well.

Same is true for the borders. There are well intended people trying to survive who get lumped in with the mass influx of coyote crops. They all get scooped up in one fell swoop and that's when individuals get separated from others. It's not desirable just as closing the gates to public lakes isn't desirable, but if you don't want a 3rd world existence you have to do something to avoid it.

That's a hearty anecdote. We've yet to see any proof chump believes that to any degree. Give us a number, Pavlov.

Pavlov
06-24-2018, 02:50 AM
That's a hearty anecdote. We've yet to see any proof chump believes that to any degree. Give us a number, Pavlov.You're the one ranting about numbers, but you shit your pants when you are called out on them.

lol

Spurtacular
06-24-2018, 02:53 AM
You're the one ranting about numbers, but you shit your pants when you are called out on them.

lol

Bro, I'm already singing with the choir. You're the one who has yet to state at what point illegal immigration will be a major problem. You gonna keep running, aren't you little bitch? :lmao

Pavlov
06-24-2018, 02:55 AM
Bro, I'm already singing with the choir. You're the one who has yet to state at what point illegal immigration will be a major problem. You gonna keep running, aren't you little bitch? :lmaoOK, what is your number, derp?


Step up or back down, shit your pants and cry again.

Spurtacular
06-24-2018, 02:57 AM
OK, what is your number, derp?


Step up or back down, shit your pants and cry again.

I don't have a number. That number was passed long ago. What's your number?

Pavlov
06-24-2018, 03:07 AM
I don't have a number.

:rollin exactly

You done backed down and shit yourself again.

All that's left for you is to whine about it.

Go head and get that over with.

lol

Winehole23
06-24-2018, 03:22 AM
I remember when some local lakes had open gates 24 hours a day. Now you have to pay to enter and they close at dark. It seems people misused the lake and parks especially when no one was looking. There was an honor box up front that nighttime people would be requested to drop money into to cover the costs of cleaning the park in the morning. The boxes were damaged and stolen, and when they weren't there was rarely any money in them yet the lake shores were littered with beer cans and food bags along with whatever trash people didn't want in their vehicles, and fish remains from not using the cleaning station, using the shoreline instead and discarding the fish on the bank which attracted raccoons which further damaged the park resources.

When it gets to be too much, partly because degradation of "give a shit" and the increase in numbers create anonymity which seems to empower assholes to be themselves, rules change. Those changes not only affect the assholes, but the decent, law abiding people as well.

Same is true for the borders. There are well intended people trying to survive who get lumped in with the mass influx of coyote crops. They all get scooped up in one fell swoop and that's when individuals get separated from others. It's not desirable just as closing the gates to public lakes isn't desirable, but if you don't want a 3rd world existence you have to do something to avoid it.The US survived a much larger influx from 1980-2000.

Why is the largest US law enforcement corps ever tasked with beating a problem that is significantly smaller?

Spurtacular
06-24-2018, 03:26 AM
:rollin exactly

You done backed down and shit yourself again.

All that's left for you is to whine about it.

Go head and get that over with.

lol

I never claimed I had a number. :lol You get so fast into your false narratives that you don't know what's what.

Avante
06-24-2018, 03:32 AM
Every thread here MUST be some argument, hahahahaha~~~~~~~~~~

Who gives a shit how many people are here or aren't here, big damn deal. How will that change my life in any way, yep...it won't.

The first president I can remember was Eisenhower. I have never noticed any dramatic changes at all because of a different president. It was never...WOW THIS IS GREAT...or...OH NO THIS SUCKS.

Some of really do have a hard time with others don't ya?

Pavlov
06-24-2018, 03:38 AM
I never claimed I had a number. :lol You get so fast into your false narratives that you don't know what's what.So you don't even have a number now?

:rollin

You just came to terms about shitting your pants again.

Pavlov
06-24-2018, 03:40 AM
Give us a number, Pavlov.


I don't have a number:lmao

Spurtacular
06-24-2018, 06:11 AM
So you don't even have a number now?

:rollin

You just came to terms about shitting your pants again.

If you weren't throwing a tantrum, you'd know that I never claimed a number. You were so eager to run from a question that you forget I'm the one who asked it. Sad. Par.

boutons_deux
06-24-2018, 07:55 AM
"there was a study" recently that showed correlation between high rents and lower birth rates

Pavlov
06-24-2018, 08:25 AM
If you weren't throwing a tantrum, you'd know that I never claimed a number. You were so eager to run from a question that you forget I'm the one who asked it. Sad. Par.
So don't demand numbers from others.

Simple.

Othyus Lalanne
06-24-2018, 08:25 AM
The founding fathers wanted it that way, that’s why. Unless you’re saying that the principles of the founding fathers are up for debate, in which case let’s talk immigrants and then guns.

The First Amendment made it clear written into the Constitution in by the Founding Fathers that everything is up for debate.

Spurtacular
06-24-2018, 08:26 AM
So don't demand numbers from others.

Simple.

:lol Applicability, son. The question is applicable to you, not me. You shame UTSA every day. :lol

Pavlov
06-24-2018, 08:28 AM
:lol Applicability, son. The question is applicable to you, not me. You shame UTSA every day. :lol

Why is is applicable to me and not you? Explain why you can't be expected to discuss anything or have any thoughts or opinions ever. Thanks.

sickdsm
06-24-2018, 09:13 AM
One of the things that stuck out at me during the election was one of the Libetarian (Austin Petersen?) talking points on immigration. He wanted to speed up the immigration process, a modern day fastpass for Ellis Island. This was before the idiots, rep and dem, made it an issue.


Don't remove illegals, make the legals faster.

Spurminator
06-24-2018, 09:27 AM
One of the things that stuck out at me during the election was one of the Libetarian (Austin Petersen?) talking points on immigration. He wanted to speed up the immigration process, a modern day fastpass for Ellis Island. This was before the idiots, rep and dem, made it an issue.


Don't remove illegals, make the legals faster.

:tu

Extra Stout
06-24-2018, 02:52 PM
What’s changed in 15 years? The alleged problem would be easy to solve from the demand end if anybody really wanted to do so.
Republicans keep the borders wide open so business can reap in the cheap, rights-free labor, but then play border cruelty theater to appease poor whites.
The supposedly “open borders” Democrats cracked down the last time they were in control.

The OP-quoted article arguing for wage increases across the board would have been considered left-wing three years ago. It’s like a kind of socialism that is nationalist at the same tine.

monosylab1k
06-24-2018, 02:55 PM
The First Amendment made it clear written into the Constitution in by the Founding Fathers that everything is up for debate.

Too bad your post wasn’t clearly written.

Othyus Lalanne
06-24-2018, 04:02 PM
Too bad your post wasn’t clearly written.

it has a logic, unlike yours.

monosylab1k
06-24-2018, 04:15 PM
it has a logic, unlike yours.

You didn’t even comprehend my post when you made your poorly written reply.

Winehole23
06-24-2018, 05:29 PM
The supposedly “open borders” Democrats cracked down the last time they were in control.obvious, yet needs to be continually pointed out.

it's a weird blind spot on both sides of the ideological spectrum.

DMC
06-24-2018, 07:11 PM
The US survived a much larger influx from 1980-2000.

Why is the largest US law enforcement corps ever tasked with beating a problem that is significantly smaller?

And during that time, there was a constant outcry to repair the porous border situation. Just because you survived a cancer doesn't mean you're ok with getting a cancer.

Winehole23
06-24-2018, 09:51 PM
well, I don't consider Central American migration to Texas to be cancer.

your mileage may vary, obviously.

Othyus Lalanne
06-25-2018, 09:09 AM
You didn’t even comprehend my post when you made your poorly written reply.

Get your bitchaASS TO HUGBOX, YOU AIN'T ABOUT THIS DEBATING LIFE.

boutons_deux
06-25-2018, 09:17 AM
Why care about illegal immigrants? For one thing, they’ve become vital to key sectors of the US economy

undocumented immigrant workers play vital roles in the U.S. economy, erecting American buildings, picking American apples and grapes, and taking care of American babies. Oh, and paying American taxes (https://www.vox.com/2018/4/13/17229018/undocumented-immigrants-pay-taxes).

So if our shared humanity isn’t enough to care, let’s examine the other reasons.

Pew Research Center (http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/05/03/key-findings-about-u-s-immigrants/) estimates that about

11.3 million people are currently living in the U.S. without authorization, down from a peak of 12.2 million in 2007.

More than half (https://immigration.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000845) come from Mexico, and

about 15 percent come from other parts Latin America.

About 8 million of them have jobs, making up 5 percent (http://www.pewhispanic.org/2016/11/03/size-of-u-s-unauthorized-immigrant-workforce-stable-after-the-great-recession/) of the U.S. workforce,

figures that have remained more or less steady for the past decade.

are unsurprisingly

most concentrated (http://www.pewhispanic.org/2016/11/03/appendix-b-additional-charts-2/#among-states) in border states like California and Texas,

where they make up about 9 percent of both states’ workforces,

while in Nevada, their share is over 10 percent.


Where they work

The map shows the share of unauthorized workers in each state's workforce.

< map >

estimates (https://www.doleta.gov/agworker/report9/naws_rpt9.pdf) that about half of the nation’s farmworkers are unauthorized,

while 15 percent of those in construction (http://www.pewhispanic.org/2016/11/03/size-of-u-s-unauthorized-immigrant-workforce-stable-after-the-great-recession/) lack papers –

more than the share of legal immigrants in either industry.

In the service sector, which would include jobs such as fast food and domestic help, the figure is about 9 percent.

What unauthorized workers do

Undocumented immigrants make up more more than half of the hired labor on farms, according to the USDA, while Pew data show their share in construction is about 15 percent. Overall, they make up 5 percent of the U.S. workforce.


Hired farmers
53%
Construction
15%
Production
9%
Services
9%
Transportation
6%
Overall workforce 5%

https://theconversation.com/why-care-about-illegal-immigrants-for-one-thing-theyve-become-vital-to-key-sectors-of-the-us-economy-98790

monosylab1k
06-25-2018, 09:26 AM
Get your bitchaASS TO HUGBOX, YOU AIN'T ABOUT THIS DEBATING LIFE.

Holy shit, you’re desperate :lol

Othyus Lalanne
06-25-2018, 09:29 AM
Holy shit, you’re desperate :lol

The Truth is never desperate. It just comes out sooner or later.

Blake
06-25-2018, 09:38 AM
The Truth is never desperate. It just comes out sooner or later.

But you aren't the truth

monosylab1k
06-25-2018, 09:48 AM
The Truth is never desperate. It just comes out sooner or later.

Looks like someone had Chinese food last night.

Othyus Lalanne
06-25-2018, 10:14 AM
Looks like someone had Chinese food last night.

Fuck that shit. Western civ, the best version all the way for guidance.




But you aren't the truth


Compared to mono i am.

Blake
06-25-2018, 10:31 AM
Compared to mono i am.

Probably not true.

pgardn
06-25-2018, 11:00 AM
I remember when some local lakes had open gates 24 hours a day. Now you have to pay to enter and they close at dark. It seems people misused the lake and parks especially when no one was looking. There was an honor box up front that nighttime people would be requested to drop money into to cover the costs of cleaning the park in the morning. The boxes were damaged and stolen, and when they weren't there was rarely any money in them yet the lake shores were littered with beer cans and food bags along with whatever trash people didn't want in their vehicles, and fish remains from not using the cleaning station, using the shoreline instead and discarding the fish on the bank which attracted raccoons which further damaged the park resources.

When it gets to be too much, partly because degradation of "give a shit" and the increase in numbers create anonymity which seems to empower assholes to be themselves, rules change. Those changes not only affect the assholes, but the decent, law abiding people as well.

Same is true for the borders. There are well intended people trying to survive who get lumped in with the mass influx of coyote crops. They all get scooped up in one fell swoop and that's when individuals get separated from others. It's not desirable just as closing the gates to public lakes isn't desirable, but if you don't want a 3rd world existence you have to do something to avoid it.

I have seen the same thing. Public kayak launch points. Lazy ass people abuse them and trash them. Damage stuff just for fun. Rip stuff out of cars while peeps out on the water.

There is a solution. Public parks controlled by government OR private citizens voluntarily giving up time. I have seen both work very well. What is very clear is that the Kennedy appeal ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your public kayak launch points, does not work well with people who do not value public lands. So, shout out to Yellowstone and all the backwoods trails and remote camp sites that I get to experience. Canada your next. Victoria, San Juan Islands, Salish Sea...

So now back to the border...

Othyus Lalanne
06-25-2018, 11:01 AM
Probably not true.

Why the fuck would it not be?

Blake
06-25-2018, 11:12 AM
Why the fuck would it not be?

There's no proof it is and many of the posts I've seen from you are pretty stupid.

Othyus Lalanne
06-25-2018, 11:26 AM
There's no proof it is and many of the posts I've seen from you are pretty stupid.

And some hyperpartisan asshole like you is the source of truth?

Blake
06-25-2018, 11:39 AM
And some hyperpartisan asshole like you is the source of truth?

I'm not claiming to be a source of truth. You are.

Another stupid post, to be truthful

Othyus Lalanne
06-25-2018, 11:44 AM
I'm not claiming to be a source of truth. You are.

Another stupid post, to be truthful
My digital bullshido has a higher power level than yours.

Blake
06-25-2018, 11:53 AM
My digital bullshido has a higher power level than yours.


Neato

Othyus Lalanne
06-25-2018, 12:01 PM
Neato

That does no mean anything.

Blake
06-25-2018, 12:12 PM
That does no mean anything.

Ok

monosylab1k
06-25-2018, 12:30 PM
Fuck that shit. Western civ, the best version all the way for guidance.






Compared to mono i am.

Another confirmed Asian on SpursTalk :tu welcome to the club.

Othyus Lalanne
06-25-2018, 01:32 PM
Another confirmed Asian on SpursTalk :tu welcome to the club.

No, Asians like their Confucian pussy shit.


Ok



You are a retard.

Blake
06-25-2018, 02:05 PM
You are a retard.

You are butthurt

Othyus Lalanne
06-25-2018, 02:59 PM
You are butthurt

The only person your bitchass can spank here is yourself.

Blake
06-25-2018, 04:03 PM
The only person your bitchass can spank here is yourself.

That does no mean anything from someone who struggles with easy Internet research

Othyus Lalanne
06-25-2018, 04:05 PM
That does no mean anything from someone who struggles with easy Internet research
Make arguments. Saying goolge it is for pussyes.

Blake
06-25-2018, 04:08 PM
Make arguments. Saying goolge it is for pussyes.

There's nothing to argue.

You said you didn't know something. I told you it was an easy Google to find it. You got pissy and obviously still are.

Othyus Lalanne
06-25-2018, 04:21 PM
There's nothing to argue.

You said you didn't know something. I told you it was an easy Google to find it. You got pissy and obviously still are.

You are pissy because i exist in your digital space and it does not feel like the perfect hugbox.

Blake
06-25-2018, 04:31 PM
You are pissy because i exist in your digital space and it does not feel like the perfect hugbox.

I don't even know what that is supposed to mean. It looks pissy tho.

Othyus Lalanne
06-25-2018, 04:47 PM
I don't even know what that is supposed to mean. It looks pissy tho.

You are a weak liar and a weak political actor.

Blake
06-25-2018, 05:08 PM
You are weird even if you are just DMC playing with a sock puppet

ducks
06-25-2018, 05:10 PM
The quality of workers has been steadily deteriorating. You can't just say increase wages. An employee has to make the employer money. A fuck up doesn't mean $100 wasted any more. A bad decision can mean $20k or$200k just as well. Good employees are ABSOLUTELY worth good wages. I know farm employees making $10/he that are overpaid. I also know one making $65k a and another (Mexican) $90k that may be under paid. Great welder, mechanic, competent tractor driver etc....he quality of workers has been steadily deteriorating.
so bringing in other people that do not work hard will fix it?

Blake
06-25-2018, 05:13 PM
he quality of workers has been steadily deteriorating.


In what field exactly and who told you this?

Pavlov
06-25-2018, 05:19 PM
You are weird even if you are just DMC playing with a sock puppetThat would explain the two and a half year absence I suppose.

sickdsm
06-25-2018, 07:14 PM
he quality of workers has been steadily deteriorating.
so bringing in other people that do not work hard will fix it?

What makes you think that immigrants don't work hard?

sickdsm
06-25-2018, 07:19 PM
In what field exactly and who told you this?

Shortage of truck drivers, lack of plumbers, electricians, HVAC, farm employees, factory workers etc. help wanted signs permanently mounted everywhere........


Where exactly are you going with this? What immigrant ready field do you think has been improving?

Blake
06-25-2018, 10:15 PM
Shortage of truck drivers, lack of plumbers, electricians, HVAC, farm employees, factory workers etc. help wanted signs permanently mounted everywhere........


Where exactly are you going with this? What immigrant ready field do you think has been improving?

Shortage of employees is not the same thing as deteriorating quality.

Who says I'm going anywhere with it. I'd like to see the info behind his claim.

dabom
06-25-2018, 10:22 PM
If an illegal immigrant takes your job, YOU fucked up in life. :lol

Chucho
06-25-2018, 10:23 PM
If an illegal immigrant takes your job, YOU fucked up in life. :lol

That's a rare gem from you. +2

dabom
06-25-2018, 10:24 PM
If some motherfucker with no family friends house money experience and can't speak English took your fucking job, I'm laughing at you fuckup. :lol

dabom
06-25-2018, 10:25 PM
That's a rare gem from you. +2

:tu

dabom
06-25-2018, 10:26 PM
If some motherfucker with no family friends house money experience and can't speak English took your fucking job, I'm laughing at you fuckup. :lol

"Can underdog put that on a tshirt?" :lol

Othyus Lalanne
06-26-2018, 12:33 AM
You are weird even if you are just DMC playing with a sock puppet

Weird is cool now. Deal with it.


If some motherfucker with no family friends house money experience and can't speak English took your fucking job, I'm laughing at you fuckup. :lol


The rest of the world speaks English now.

Spurtacular
06-26-2018, 02:08 AM
Capt Bringdown : Why do we need more people in this country, anyway?

Cos you're xenophobic if you're not for open borders let alone wanting a good immigration system. Didn't you get the memo on the DNC stationary?

Pavlov
06-26-2018, 02:41 AM
The open borders straw man again.

lol

Avante
06-26-2018, 04:03 AM
When white/black/Asian Americans can't get a job because they prefer someone who speaks spanish, yep....problem.

When the roads are full of uninsured Mexican drivers, yep....a problem.

When ya walk into a coutroom and look up on the docket and it's all....

Garcia
Gonzalez
Hernandez

....sucks.

When ya see a Mexican lady walking into the welfare offfice with two young kids, pushing another one in a stroller and..pregnant....not good.

When it's.....to hear this in English press one.......what?

I must have 12-15 spanish speaking TV stations, yep....sucks. The radio has to be 70% spanish speaking stations.

Spurtacular
06-26-2018, 05:18 AM
The open borders straw man again.

lol

Give me a #

rmt
06-26-2018, 06:14 AM
If some motherfucker with no family friends house money experience and can't speak English took your fucking job, I'm laughing at you fuckup. :lol

Problem is that that the children of that m**********r with no family friends house money experience and can't speak English will have a better story to tell than your kids, will get into that Ivy League school (and get a full ride unlike yours who probably will go to a state school because that's what you can afford), and will take your kids' jobs. So while you're being good and paying all your taxes (which will help educate his kids K-12) and this m************r is getting paid cash under the table, I suspect that things will look mighty unfair when college decisions/financial aid awards come rolling in. Then who is the last laugh going to be on.

It's the very rich and very poor (on full rides) who are going to the Ivies and elite schools. The middle class' kids go to state universities.

Blake
06-26-2018, 07:16 AM
:depressed it must really suck that your poor kids don't have a sad enough story to get into Harvard.

monosylab1k
06-26-2018, 07:24 AM
Problem is that that the children of that m**********r with no family friends house money experience and can't speak English will have a better story to tell than your kids, will get into that Ivy League school (and get a full ride unlike yours who probably will go to a state school because that's what you can afford), and will take your kids' jobs. So while you're being good and paying all your taxes (which will help educate his kids K-12) and this m************r is getting paid cash under the table, I suspect that things will look mighty unfair when college decisions/financial aid awards come rolling in. Then who is the last laugh going to be on.

It's the very rich and very poor (on full rides) who are going to the Ivies and elite schools. The middle class' kids go to state universities.

lol at an immigrant who uses her immigrant story to get ahead in America bitching about other immigrants doing the same thing.

sickdsm
06-26-2018, 08:27 AM
Shortage of employees is not the same thing as deteriorating quality.

Who says I'm going anywhere with it. I'd like to see the info behind his claim.

You are especially idiotic when you try to act like you know what your talking about. There is no shortage of people wanting to drive truck. There is a shortage of people who are competent, can pass a drug test, show up on time, have a valid license and can be trusted behind the wheel of a $200k rig and the liability that go along with it.

That's where the deteriorating quality shows up. Have you ever made small talk with any small business owner?

rmt
06-26-2018, 08:31 AM
:depressed it must really suck that your poor kids don't have a sad enough story to get into Harvard.

No, my kid just tutors kids who get into Harvard because of the color of their skin.

rmt
06-26-2018, 08:39 AM
lol at an immigrant who uses her immigrant story to get ahead in America bitching about other immigrants doing the same thing.

Me - use my immigrant story - lol - way back then there wasn't that sort of thing going on - I didn't get any leg up because of the color of my skin (as opposed to now - being virtually discriminated against because of skin color). Nope, for me, public hs to free community college (by virtue of merit [graduating top 10%]) then on to UF (another public school).

Mock all you want - when your kids are not black/hispanic, first generation going to college, low income, you will be paying full freight at a state university (which very rarely hands out scholarships/financial aid help).

Blake
06-26-2018, 08:42 AM
You are especially idiotic when you try to act like you know what your talking about. There is no shortage of people wanting to drive truck. There is a shortage of people who are competent, can pass a drug test, show up on time, have a valid license and can be trusted behind the wheel of a $200k rig and the liability that go along with it.

That's where the deteriorating quality shows up. Have you ever made small talk with any small business owner?

You're putting words in my mouth in a rambling mess of a post.

I'm not looking for your anecdotes. I'm looking for the info to back up ducks' claim.

monosylab1k
06-26-2018, 08:42 AM
Me - use my immigrant story - lol - way back then there wasn't that sort of thing going on - I didn't get any leg up because of the color of my skin (as opposed to now - being virtually discriminated against because of skin color). Nope, for me, public hs to free community college (by virtue of merit [graduating top 10%]) then on to UF (another public school).

Mock all you want - when your kids are not black/hispanic, first generation going to college, low income, you will be paying full freight at a state university (which very rarely hands out scholarships/financial aid help).

lol when you did it, you were just rolling up your sleeves and putting in hard work.

but when they do it, they’re just lazy freeloaders stealing jobs from white people.

Blake
06-26-2018, 08:46 AM
No, my kid just tutors kids who get into Harvard because of the color of their skin.

Harvard is a private school that gets to admit who they want to.

But I bet I know what your nutty conservative stance on the baker refusing the gays a cake is.

rmt
06-26-2018, 09:11 AM
Harvard is a private school that gets to admit who they want to.

But I bet I know what your nutty conservative stance on the baker refusing the gays a cake is.

I wouldn't want my kid to go to that cesspool of liberal thought - didn't even apply - who knows what crazy ideas she'd come out with. Nope, public university for her - probably in your backyard - with a precious (and rare) out-of-state waiver (awarded based on merit). Thank you very much - UT-Austin.

Blake
06-26-2018, 09:16 AM
I wouldn't want my kid to go to that cesspool of liberal thought - didn't even apply - who knows what crazy ideas she'd come out with. Nope, public university for her - probably in your backyard - with a precious (and rare) out-of-state waiver (awarded based on merit). Thank you very much - UT-Austin.

Lol all that bitching about ivy league admission standards for nothing

monosylab1k
06-26-2018, 09:16 AM
[QUOTE=rmt;9440231]I wouldn't want my kid to go to that cesspool of liberal thought - didn't even apply - who knows what crazy ideas she'd come out with. Nope, public university for her - probably in your backyard - with a precious (and rare) out-of-state waiver (awarded based on merit). Thank you very much - UT-Austin.[/QUOT

:cry my kids can’t get into Harvard because of lazy immigrants
:cry fine, I don’t want them going there anyways

And LOL at thinking Harvard is more liberal than UT

rmt
06-26-2018, 09:21 AM
lol when you did it, you were just rolling up your sleeves and putting in hard work.

but when they do it, they’re just lazy freeloaders stealing jobs from white people.

My posts are in response to the post laughing about xxxxx, xxxx illegal taking one's job - imo, shortsighted not thinking about the future (and your kids).

monosylab1k
06-26-2018, 09:25 AM
My posts are in response to the post laughing about xxxxx, xxxx illegal taking one's job - imo, shortsighted not thinking about the future (and your kids).

You really think illegal immigrants coming over to pick fruit are the diabolical people stealing Harvard admissions from down on their luck white kids?

rmt
06-26-2018, 09:35 AM
[QUOTE=rmt;9440231]I wouldn't want my kid to go to that cesspool of liberal thought - didn't even apply - who knows what crazy ideas she'd come out with. Nope, public university for her - probably in your backyard - with a precious (and rare) out-of-state waiver (awarded based on merit). Thank you very much - UT-Austin.[/QUOT

:cry my kids can’t get into Harvard because of lazy immigrants
:cry fine, I don’t want them going there anyways

And LOL at thinking Harvard is more liberal than UT

If you can't see the difference between the top 7% of Texan high schools kids (probably middle class) attending UT-Austin and the very rich and very poor kids attending Harvard, I don't know what to say. There were plenty of like-minded evangelical Christians at UT-Austin. Very little exposure to professor liberal thought as she APed out of almost all her general ed (specifically the social science) classes.

rmt
06-26-2018, 09:39 AM
You really think illegal immigrants coming over to pick fruit are the diabolical people stealing Harvard admissions from down on their luck white kids?

Am I not being clear - their KIDS are who your kids will be competing with (with a much better story, being first generation going to college and very low income).

Allan Rowe vs Wade
06-26-2018, 09:41 AM
america needs young blood because boomers are old and bankrupted the country's retirement programs on their government-credit-card-style spending sprees

Blake
06-26-2018, 09:44 AM
If you can't see the difference between the top 7% of Texan high schools kids (probably middle class) attending UT-Austin and the very rich and very poor kids attending Harvard, I don't know what to say. There were plenty of like-minded evangelical Christians at UT-Austin. Very little exposure to professor liberal thought as she APed out of almost all her general ed (specifically the social science) classes.

You don't want your kids to go to Harvard any way.

What a bunch of worthless text wall bitching :lol

rmt
06-26-2018, 09:57 AM
You don't want your kids to go to Harvard any way.

What a bunch of worthless text wall bitching :lol

You are the one who specifically mentioned Harvard - not me. Where my kids are concerned, I look at the program (major) and how strong it is (and of course, if I can afford it).

Blake
06-26-2018, 10:02 AM
You are the one who specifically mentioned Harvard - not me. Where my kids are concerned, I look at the program (major) and how strong it is (and of course, if I can afford it).

I'm trying to think of the perfect lol for you not knowing Harvard is Ivy League but oh well this'll do: lol.

I'm getting deja vu. Didn't we go through this before about what schools are in the Ivy League?

rmt
06-26-2018, 10:13 AM
You are the one who specifically mentioned Harvard - not me. Where my kids are concerned, I look at the program (major) and how strong it is (and of course, if I can afford it).

Blake
06-26-2018, 10:22 AM
".....bleh bleh that Ivy League School. ......bleh bleh the very rich and poor going to the Ivies...."

You're a disingenuous asshole. The lol stands.

Pavlov
06-26-2018, 10:26 AM
UT is really quite liberal. You've made a terrible mistake.

rmt
06-26-2018, 10:28 AM
".....bleh bleh that Ivy League School. ......bleh bleh the very rich and poor going to the Ivies...."

You're a disingenuous asshole. The lol stands.

I've been called worse on this board, and yes, I do know that Harvard is an Ivy League school. I am not into prestige, name-brand anything - I'm into the best constrained by what I can afford - meaning good value (with consideration to fit/needs of each child).

rmt
06-26-2018, 10:31 AM
UT is really quite liberal. You've made a terrible mistake.

Nope - not where my child is concerned. I couldn't be more pleased. Fantastic Christian friends, excellent education and onward to a great job.

Pavlov
06-26-2018, 10:34 AM
Nope - not where my child is concerned. I couldn't be more pleased. Fantastic Christian friends, excellent education and onward to a great job.you keep telling yourself that. It's a liberal cesspool.

rmt
06-26-2018, 10:34 AM
BTW, is there any more confusing highway than Austin's - there's an exit every half mile, it seems. I was so happy to get back to Miami's (what I thought) badly designed roads.

Pavlov
06-26-2018, 10:35 AM
Also lol for depending on government again.

rmt
06-26-2018, 10:37 AM
you keep telling yourself that. It's a liberal cesspool.

That liberalism is probably limited in science/math classes. Besides, she's been well trained (to me) - indoctrinated (to you) - all those years homeschooling.

dabom
06-26-2018, 10:38 AM
Weird is cool now. Deal with it.




The rest of the world speaks English now.

No it doesnt you dumb fuck. :lol

Pavlov
06-26-2018, 10:40 AM
That liberalism is probably limited in science/math classes. Besides, she's been well trained (to me) - indoctrinated (to you) - all those years homeschooling.
"trained" is even worse. It's a child, not a dog.

Jesus.

rmt
06-26-2018, 10:41 AM
Also lol for depending on government again.

I pay more than enough taxes. Every time I take risk with my money, I think - and the government gets x% of this. Not to mention property taxes on my home and rental but (I know - my choice but more funds for others) not using the public schools by home schooling.

Blake
06-26-2018, 10:44 AM
That liberalism is probably limited in science/math classes. Besides, she's been well trained (to me) - indoctrinated (to you) - all those years homeschooling.

Science test question 1: how old is the earth?

Rmt kid: 6000 years old

Rmt: well done. [Pats head] Have a treat!

rmt
06-26-2018, 10:44 AM
"trained" is even worse. It's a child, not a dog.

Jesus.

Just following the New Testament - train up a child - and all that. Maybe if more parents spend more time training, we wouldn't have so many problems today.

Blake
06-26-2018, 10:46 AM
I've been called worse on this board, and yes, I do know that Harvard is an Ivy League school. I am not into prestige, name-brand anything - I'm into the best constrained by what I can afford - meaning good value (with consideration to fit/needs of each child).

You're not into prestige...

....unless you're whining about middle class kids that can't get into Ivy league schools

......unless that school is "liberal" Harvard.....which is Ivy league

......so you're sending kid to UT.....which is liberal.

Pavlov
06-26-2018, 10:47 AM
Just following the New Testament - train up a child - and all that. Maybe if more parents spend more time training, we wouldn't have so many problems today.So the old testament isn't good for kids?

Pavlov
06-26-2018, 10:48 AM
You're not into prestige...

....unless you're whining about middle class kids that can't get into Ivy league schools

......unless that school is Harvard.....which is Ivy leagueBut they have liberal cesspool math and science programs!

Pavlov
06-26-2018, 10:49 AM
I pay more than enough taxes. Every time I take risk with my money, I think - and the government gets x% of this. Not to mention property taxes on my home and rental but (I know - my choice but more funds for others) not using the public schools by home schooling.You are basically relying on governments for just about everything in your life. I don't blame you for accepting the help, but it's funny you won't acknowledge it.

rmt
06-26-2018, 10:51 AM
So the old testament isn't good for kids?

Did I say that? The train up a child verse is from the New Testament.

rmt
06-26-2018, 10:52 AM
You are basically relying on governments for just about everything in your life. I don't blame you for accepting the help, but it's funny you won't acknowledge it.

That's the problem with liberal thought - they make you think that you rely on government for everything when it's really the government that relies on our tax dollars.

Blake
06-26-2018, 10:56 AM
That's the problem with liberal thought - they make you think that you rely on government for everything when it's really the government that relies on our tax dollars.

Deep thoughts

Pavlov
06-26-2018, 10:57 AM
Did I say that? The train up a child verse is from the New Testament.So the old testament is good for kids?


That's the problem with liberal thought - they make you think that you rely on government for everything when it's really the government that relies on our tax dollars.Yes, the government takes in money from everyone and gives it back to people like you in greater concentrations. You just keep going back to the beast for handout after handout. I don't blame you.

boutons_deux
06-26-2018, 10:57 AM
That's the problem with liberal thought - they make you think that you rely on government for everything when it's really the government that relies on our tax dollars.

Goddamn, you're STILL fucking stupid

monosylab1k
06-26-2018, 11:14 AM
Am I not being clear - their KIDS are who your kids will be competing with (with a much better story, being first generation going to college and very low income).

So those kids who work their ass off to get into to Harvard don’t deserve it because of their parents? Do you really think a lazy freeloader would work hard enough to even get into an Ivy League school? Well, besides Donald Trump I mean.

rmt
06-26-2018, 12:53 PM
So the old testament is good for kids?

Yes, the government takes in money from everyone and gives it back to people like you in greater concentrations. You just keep going back to the beast for handout after handout. I don't blame you.

LOL - go on thinking that the government gives money back to "people like me in greater concentrations." What a joke.

Pavlov
06-26-2018, 12:59 PM
LOL - go on thinking that the government gives money back to "people like me in greater concentrations." What a joke.Your salary and benefits, for example.

rmt
06-26-2018, 01:27 PM
Your salary and benefits, for example.

Some salary and benefits - I earned $5k more 22 years ago than I do now. I'm not exactly doing this for the money - it's what keeps me from wasting my time arguing with you guys like I shouldn't be doing on my day off today. Believe me, they get more from me than I get from them. My PM keeps asking me how long I'm gonna work for - lol - my answer is that I take this job one day at a time.

Pavlov
06-26-2018, 01:28 PM
Some salary and benefits - I earned $5k more 22 years ago than I do now. I'm not exactly doing this for the money - it's what keeps me from wasting my time arguing with you guys like I shouldn't be doing on my day off today. Believe me, they get more from me than I get from them. My PM keeps asking me how long I'm gonna work for - lol - my answer is that I take this job one day at a time.Your choice to keep getting the government pay and benefits. :tu

baseline bum
06-26-2018, 01:29 PM
Some salary and benefits - I earned $5k more 22 years ago than I do now. I'm not exactly doing this for the money - it's what keeps me from wasting my time arguing with you guys like I shouldn't be doing on my day off today. Believe me, they get more from me than I get from them. My PM keeps asking me how long I'm gonna work for - lol - my answer is that I take this job one day at a time.

No one believes you dumbass

rmt
06-26-2018, 01:34 PM
Your choice to keep getting the government pay and benefits. :tu

Not to worry - a couple more years experience in today's job market and I'll be moving on. Taking time off to raise children (which I freely accept and would do all over again) does take its toll on one's marketability but that'll be cured in a couple of years. Many COBOL programmers are retiring and all those mainframes are still out there.

Othyus Lalanne
06-26-2018, 01:35 PM
No it doesnt you dumb fuck. :lol

A lot of it does.

rmt
06-26-2018, 01:36 PM
No one believes you dumbass

It's public record - they used to have salary steps so one could progress up the ladder pretty quickly. Now they have a minimum and maximum salary - everyone starts at the bottom of the scale and gets 2% raise (if approved on a yearly basis).

monosylab1k
06-26-2018, 01:38 PM
Not to worry - a couple more years experience in today's job market and I'll be moving on. Taking time off to raise children (which I freely accept and would do all over again) does take its toll on one's marketability but that'll be cured in a couple of years. Many COBOL programmers are retiring and all those mainframes are still out there.

Immigrant affirmative action hire here bitching about other immigrants taking ivy league admissions from white people :lol alanis morisette should write a song about you.

Blake
06-26-2018, 01:42 PM
Immigrant affirmative action hire here bitching about other immigrants taking ivy league admissions from white people :lol alanis morisette should write a song about you.

That'd be ironic

Pavlov
06-26-2018, 01:42 PM
Immigrant affirmative action hire here bitching about other immigrants taking ivy league admissions from white people :lol alanis morisette should write a song about you.lol almost forgot that angle. Has government to thank for so many good things in her life.

baseline bum
06-26-2018, 01:43 PM
It's public record - they used to have salary steps so one could progress up the ladder pretty quickly. Now they have a minimum and maximum salary - everyone starts at the bottom of the scale and gets 2% raise (if approved on a yearly basis).

It's like when Trump says believe me and you know he's getting ready to tell a whopper.

SpursforSix
06-26-2018, 02:29 PM
It's like when Trump says believe me and you know he's getting ready to tell a whopper.

Bend over, I'll fuckin' show you a whopper.

Chris
06-26-2018, 02:53 PM
No one believes you dumbass

Watch your mouth son, that's a woman.

Pavlov
06-26-2018, 02:54 PM
Watch your mouth son, that's a woman.Or what?

Blake
06-26-2018, 02:54 PM
Watch your mouth son, that's a woman.

:lol fake Christian Internet tough guy

monosylab1k
06-26-2018, 02:54 PM
Watch your mouth son, that's a woman.

White knighting good now.

baseline bum
06-26-2018, 02:56 PM
Watch your mouth son, that's a woman.

No it's not, it's Wild Cobra in drag.

rmt
06-26-2018, 05:03 PM
Immigrant affirmative action hire here bitching about other immigrants taking ivy league admissions from white people :lol alanis morisette should write a song about you.

I don't think there's affirmative action here for Asians - they are over-represented in IT - especially consultants. From your post, maybe you think I'm white? And I have no idea who alanis morisette is (don't really care).

baseline bum
06-26-2018, 05:40 PM
I don't think there's affirmative action here for Asians - they are over-represented in IT - especially consultants. From your post, maybe you think I'm white? And I have no idea who alanis morisette is (don't really care).

She's another whiny hag

SnakeBoy
06-26-2018, 05:48 PM
:lol fake Christian Internet tough guy

:lol legit real life cuck

SnakeBoy
06-26-2018, 05:51 PM
Conservative females always bring out the anger in ST liberals. All those mommy issues bubble right up.

monosylab1k
06-26-2018, 06:09 PM
Blake always brings out the anger in ST conservatives. All those incel issues bubble right up.

monosylab1k
06-26-2018, 06:13 PM
I don't think there's affirmative action here for Asians - they are over-represented in IT - especially consultants. From your post, maybe you think I'm white? And I have no idea who alanis morisette is (don't really care).

Asians benefit from affirmative action despite the bullshit covered rice bowl you’ve been fed by Fox News. Women too.

baseline bum
06-26-2018, 06:25 PM
Blake always brings out the anger in ST conservatives. All those incel issues bubble right up.

:lol

DMC
06-26-2018, 06:25 PM
:lol fake Christian Internet tough guy

:lol talks shit to a woman online
:lol calls someone else "fake tough guy"
:lol wife ass pounded by a door to door salesman

Blake
06-26-2018, 09:16 PM
:lol talks shit to a woman online
:lol calls someone else "fake tough guy"
:lol wife ass pounded by a door to door salesman

:lol thinks calling someone an asshole is tough guy talk

Chucho
06-26-2018, 09:23 PM
Blake is cool. Seriously.

When other people are more offended at the insults thrown his way and he brushes them off or ignores them, that's legit. The cuck thing is played out, gotta get him elsehow. Only dead horse beating that is funny here is all Avante related because that prick is one of a kind.

DMC
06-26-2018, 10:04 PM
:lol thinks calling someone an asshole is tough guy talk

:lol thinks being an asshole = winning
:lol stands up to women online but cucked by one IRL

monosylab1k
06-26-2018, 10:33 PM
Imagine all the autistic screeching on here if mods ever censored the word cuck.

sickdsm
06-26-2018, 11:17 PM
You're putting words in my mouth in a rambling mess of a post.

I'm not looking for your anecdotes. I'm looking for the info to back up ducks' claim.
Won't dispute claim, won't agree with claim. Complete fence rider. I bet you have a vanilla personality also.

ducks
06-26-2018, 11:27 PM
In what field exactly and who told you this?

They work slow I see them with my eyes in the lettuce fields here.
You must also speak Spanish to work for lettuce fields. You can not meet them in field you must drive to the boarder get on bus their to work there. Must be able to read Spanish all signs in Spanish. This is all in America where English is the language

Blake
06-27-2018, 12:39 AM
Won't dispute claim, won't agree with claim. Complete fence rider. I bet you have a vanilla personality also.

I bet you we'll never meet irl

Blake
06-27-2018, 12:39 AM
They work slow I see them with my eyes in the lettuce fields here.
You must also speak Spanish to work for lettuce fields. You can not meet them in field you must drive to the boarder get on bus their to work there. Must be able to read Spanish all signs in Spanish. This is all in America where English is the language

Oh a weird anecdote.

Figured.

Blake
06-27-2018, 12:41 AM
:lol thinks being an asshole = winning


Yeah I'm not sure who you directing this at. I didn't call myself an asshole on this particular occasion.

I called rmt one. And by my count of lols, she's getting blown out late in the 4th.

DMC
06-27-2018, 07:56 AM
Yeah I'm not sure who you directing this at. I didn't call myself an asshole on this particular occasion.

I called rmt one. And by my count of lols, she's getting blown out late in the 4th.

But you are an asshole.

My point stands. Being an asshole doesn't = winning

DMC
06-27-2018, 07:58 AM
Imagine all the autistic screeching on here if mods ever censored the word cuck.

Or austistic, or screeching, or incel tbh fwiw imo

Blake
06-27-2018, 08:18 AM
But you are an asshole.

My point stands. Being an asshole doesn't = winning

Strawman = losing

monosylab1k
06-27-2018, 09:58 AM
Or austistic, or screeching, or incel tbh fwiw imo

I could find new ways to insult conservatives. Conservatives have nothing else to go at Blake with.

DMC
06-27-2018, 01:09 PM
I could find new ways to insult conservatives. Conservatives have nothing else to go at Blake with.

You mean like cuckservatives?

Blake
06-27-2018, 01:54 PM
You mean like cuckservatives?

Nothing new

DMC
06-27-2018, 04:41 PM
Nothing new

I'm pretty sure Mono was referring to that word since he uses it so often. He'd have to find a new word, which is basically what he said.

You bring nothing to the fight, so you're basically a chump-lite dunce who just says "nuh uh" and challenges people to provide mountains of evidence that you won't even consider. You have an agenda, this we all know. It's apparent in your thread starting and as such you're subject to be treated like a plastic fuck doll when the need arises.

Blake
06-27-2018, 05:29 PM
I'm pretty sure Mono was referring to that word since he uses it so often. He'd have to find a new word, which is basically what he said.

You bring nothing to the fight, so you're basically a chump-lite dunce who just says "nuh uh" and challenges people to provide mountains of evidence that you won't even consider. You have an agenda, this we all know. It's apparent in your thread starting and as such you're subject to be treated like a plastic fuck doll when the need arises.

I bring nothing but I have an agenda.

Oh ok.

Do you have evidence that I disregard evidence? I don't think do.

SnakeBoy
06-27-2018, 05:57 PM
Conservatives have nothing else to go at Blake with.

milksop

monosylab1k
06-27-2018, 07:03 PM
milksop

We’re not talking about Paul Ryan.

boutons_deux
06-27-2018, 07:37 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/998847012790452224/hhuUQTvV_bigger.jpg (https://twitter.com/crandallgold)(((edelweisspirat)))https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f30a.png #GeneralStrike@crandallgold
(https://twitter.com/crandallgold)
If you think that Mexico is only sending drug dealers and rapists,

but also worry that Mexicans are going to take your job...

What the fuck do you do for a living?

12:27 AM - Jun 25, 2018 (https://twitter.com/crandallgold/status/1011118721371377664)

sickdsm
06-27-2018, 08:51 PM
I'm pretty sure Mono was referring to that word since he uses it so often. He'd have to find a new word, which is basically what he said.

You bring nothing to the fight, so you're basically a chump-lite dunce who just says "nuh uh" and challenges people to provide mountains of evidence that you won't even consider. You have an agenda, this we all know. It's apparent in your thread starting and as such you're subject to be treated like a plastic fuck doll when the need arises.

Lol

DMC
06-27-2018, 09:40 PM
I bring nothing but I have an agenda.

Oh ok.

Do you have evidence that I disregard evidence? I don't think do.

You can have an agenda and bring nothing. Burglars do it all the time.

Blake
06-27-2018, 09:43 PM
You can have an agenda and bring nothing. Burglars do it all the time.

What do you think my super secret agenda is?

DMC
06-27-2018, 09:48 PM
What do you think my super secret agenda is?

It's not really a secret.

Blake
06-28-2018, 12:41 AM
It's not really a secret.

It is to me.

Blake
06-28-2018, 12:43 AM
It's not really a secret.

So you're saying I've brought a non-secret agenda to the board.

Make up your mind

Chris
06-28-2018, 12:45 AM
https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fmetaversemodsquad.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F06%2Fpicard-facepalm2.jpg&f=1

Blake
06-28-2018, 12:46 AM
^ exactly

SnakeBoy
06-28-2018, 01:10 AM
Blake is cool. Seriously.

When other people are more offended at the insults thrown his way and he brushes them off or ignores them, that's legit. The cuck thing is played out, gotta get him elsehow. Only dead horse beating that is funny here is all Avante related because that prick is one of a kind.

I'll take this under consideration. I've always looked at it as it's no problem because he brushes it off. I wouldn't do it if I thought it actually bothered him. I trolled Wild Cobra once and he damn near broke into tears so I had to stop.

Chucho
06-28-2018, 01:13 AM
I'll take this under consideration. I've always looked at it as it's no problem because he brushes it off. I wouldn't do it if I thought it actually bothered him. I trolled Wild Cobra once and he damn near broke into tears so I had to stop.

When posters are semen shielding him out of inability to understand a simple and obvious joke that he doesn't even care about because it wasn't about him, he's alright.

DMC
06-28-2018, 08:46 AM
I'm pretty sure Mono was referring to that word since he uses it so often. He'd have to find a new word, which is basically what he said.

You bring nothing to the fight, so you're basically a chump-lite dunce who just says "nuh uh" and challenges people to provide mountains of evidence that you won't even consider. You have an agenda, this we all know. It's apparent in your thread starting and as such you're subject to be treated like a plastic fuck doll when the need arises.


What do you think my super secret agenda is?


It's not really a secret.


It is to me.


So you're saying I've brought a non-secret agenda to the board.

Make up your mind

You're saying you have a secret agenda. Then you claim I said it.

This is what you do, non-discussion based lingering, fluff posting that requires Agents of Semen Shield to come to your rescue.

You bring nothing. You just think over the course of however many years of shit posting you'll regain some dignity.

monosylab1k
06-28-2018, 09:07 AM
:lmao i’m not semen shielding for Blake, you fucking morons. 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At least mix in some Tech or Welker jokes once in a while, for fuck’s sake.

Blake
06-28-2018, 09:12 AM
You're saying you have a secret agenda. Then you claim I said it.

I'm saying the agenda you claim I have is super secret.

I'm saying it's super secret because I don't even know what my agenda is......if I have one.

boutons_deux
06-28-2018, 09:14 AM
As Jobs Go Unfilled, U.S. Employers Vie to Hire Foreign Laborers

The federal government approved her application to employ more than a dozen temporary foreign workers for her family-owned landscaping business in Aurora, Colo.

She had hoped to have her crew in place by April 1, but had initially lost out in this year’s visa lottery. “Better late than never,” Ms. Fox said.

In Centennial, a quick car ride away, Phil Steinhauer faced the same hiring challenge for his landscaping business.

But his application for 150 temporary foreign workers was selected through the federal lottery in the first round, and his hires were in place when the season started.

Mr. Steinhauer, though, is far from satisfied with the way he had to fill the jobs.

“You can’t build a business on a lottery,” he said.

... their reliance on the H-2B visa program (https://www.foreignlaborcert.doleta.gov/pdf/PerformanceData/2018/H-2B_Selected_Statistics_FY2018_Q2.pdf), which allows unskilled workers from Mexico, the Philippines, Jamaica and dozens of other countries to take temporary nonfarm jobs in the United States.


Foreign Workers in Demand

The number of H-2B visas for temporary foreign workers has risen steadily, partly because those with visas from previous years were not subject to the quota of 66,000. Now that number will be a ceiling.

Employers insist that the refusal to face up to the worker shortage just encourages businesses to hire undocumented immigrants surreptitiously at below-market wages.

But this year, the conflicts have intensified.

Record low unemployment rates have left landscapers, restaurants, hotels, amusement parks and others scrambling for low-skilled seasonal labor.

Changes in the rules governing the program caught many employers by surprise,

threatening the crab industry in Maryland (http://www.baltimoresun.com/business/bs-md-crab-visas-approval-20180503-story.html) and tourist havens in Maine.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/27/business/economy/visas-usa-foreign-labor.html

But I bet these victims of Trash/Miller's anti-immigrant policies hasn't stop them from still approving of Trash.

Blake
06-28-2018, 09:16 AM
You bring nothing. You just think over the course of however many years of shit posting you'll regain some dignity.

Am I bringing an agenda to this board or not? Make up your mind already.

Lol message board dignity being important to you.

DMC
06-28-2018, 09:17 AM
I'm saying the agenda you claim I have is super secret.

I'm saying it's super secret because I don't even know what my agenda is......if I have one.

I don't believe you (contrary to the request under your name)

Blake
06-28-2018, 09:18 AM
I don't believe you (contrary to the request under your name)

K, I don't believe you either.

Great talk. You brought a lot.

DMC
06-28-2018, 09:18 AM
Am I bringing an agenda to this board or not? Make up your mind already.

Lol message board dignity being important to you.

:lol deflecting

Blake
06-28-2018, 09:20 AM
:lol deflecting

:lol deflecting by saying I'm deflecting

DMC
06-28-2018, 10:17 AM
:lmao i’m not semen shielding for Blake, you fucking morons. I’m calling you stupid uninspired unoriginal faggots out for using the same boring ass insult over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over 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and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over.

At least mix in some Tech or Welker jokes once in a while, for fuck’s sake.

You're semen shielding. It's already been established so work from that perspective.

monosylab1k
06-28-2018, 10:29 AM
You're semen shielding. It's already been established so work from that perspective.

You’ve been floundering in this thread ever since you attempted to quit using cuck. Just go back to that well.

monosylab1k
06-28-2018, 10:31 AM
don’t say cuck don’t say cuck don’t say cuck don’t say cuck
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/019/484/n08A8NO.jpg

Chucho
06-28-2018, 10:33 AM
For the record, not that it matters, but my post was in reference to Aaron whiffing on the White Men Can't Jump joke where it makes fun of Derp for not taking a shot where it would have been somewhat funny and applicable.

He's got to be an alright guy if he has dudes voluntarily semen shielding for him and thinking about him even when the jokes aren't aimed at him. And he gets under people's skin. Dude is solid.

DMC
06-28-2018, 11:54 AM
You’ve been floundering in this thread ever since you attempted to quit using cuck. Just go back to that well.

Now you're deflecting. It's catching on.

monosylab1k
06-28-2018, 11:56 AM
don’t say cuck don’t say cuck don’t say cuck don’t say cuck
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/019/484/n08A8NO.jpg

DMC
06-28-2018, 12:02 PM
:lol like you suggesting something creates a wave

We all know Blake is a cuck. CUCK

It's not going away.

Spurtacular
06-28-2018, 12:03 PM
I'm saying the agenda you claim I have is super secret.

I'm saying it's super secret because I don't even know what my agenda is......if I have one.

:lmao Today's cuck

monosylab1k
06-28-2018, 12:28 PM
cuck. CUCK

https://media1.tenor.com/images/7723cf6bbdeecf77d4fba22bb4068967/tenor.gif?itemid=4597222

Blake
06-28-2018, 01:30 PM
:lol like you suggesting something creates a wave

We all know Blake is a cuck. CUCK

It's not going away.


:lol thinks being an asshole = winning

Chris
06-28-2018, 03:10 PM
Mono and Blake - two peas in a pod :lol

Blake
06-28-2018, 03:31 PM
Mono and Blake - two peas in a pod :lol

That's like what, 14%?

boutons_deux
08-26-2018, 10:17 AM
When The U.S. Government Tried To Replace Migrant Farmworkers With High Schoolers


https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2018/07/31/634442195/when-the-u-s-government-tried-to-replace-migrant-farmworkers-with-high-schoolers