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ducks
06-27-2018, 12:06 AM
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/oscar-robertsons-big-question-social-political-activism-sports-white-athletes-175318068.html

Marcus Bryant
06-27-2018, 12:21 AM
Utah

HarlemHeat37
06-27-2018, 12:25 AM
The only voices that would matter on this issue are NFL QBs like Brady and Rodgers..there aren't any prominent white stars in the NBA and baseball largely stays away from these topics..

AFMadison
06-27-2018, 12:41 AM
There’s always injustice, I doubt Oscar Robertson experiences any

HarlemHeat37
06-27-2018, 12:54 AM
There’s always injustice, I doubt Oscar Robertson experiences any

It's not like he played during the 60s or anything:lol

Mr. Body
06-27-2018, 12:58 AM
There’s always injustice, I doubt Oscar Robertson experiences any

Yeah, black people never experience prejudice ever.

Hoops Czar
06-27-2018, 01:36 AM
The only voices that would matter on this issue are NFL QBs like Brady and Rodgers..there aren't any prominent white stars in the NBA and baseball largely stays away from these topics..

Of course they do. That's so they don't have to answer those tough questions about Mike Trout. " Take off that white mask, son. You know you ain't white."

cd021
06-27-2018, 01:48 AM
There’s always injustice, I doubt Oscar Robertson experiences any

Bill Russell too, I bet. Black people haven't experienced racism in 100 year's, at least

BackHome
06-27-2018, 02:17 AM
When I see him lead a LGQBT parade then I’ll listen to him.

cool cat
06-27-2018, 03:01 AM
Getting shit done

J.J. Watt Ends Harvey Relief Fundraiser After Raising More Than $37 Million
https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/09/15/jj-watt-hurricane-harvey-fundrasier-37-million

John Cena is not only the most-requested athlete in the Make-A-Wish Foundation, he's blown everyone else out of the water, granting more than 500 wishes to date.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2656316-10-current-athletes-who-are-ridiculously-charitable

Eli Manning raised nearly $3 million over a five year-period from 2007 to 2012 to build his Eli Manning Children's Clinic in Mississippi, which provides outpatient care to more than 75,000 children each year.

As for your social and political activism, all it takes is a 5 min google search.

Huston Street the Angels pitcher, “Pray for #PhilandoCastile and #AltonSterling families and then demand justice, my nephews are young black men and their future depends on it.” He’s a white baseball player.

White NFL players that kneeled during the anthem Adam Gotsis, Seth DeValve, Travis Kelce, James Cowser.

Majority of white players took a knee at Texans game.
https://www.theroot.com/houston-texans-players-including-white-teammates-knee-1819955775

Alex Smith on Trump “It’s the same guy who couldn’t condemn violent neo-Nazis. And he’s condemning guys taking a knee during the anthem.”
Aaron Rodgers kneeled in response to Trump.

Othyus Lalanne
06-27-2018, 06:22 AM
The only voices that would matter on this issue are NFL QBs like Brady and Rodgers..there aren't any prominent white stars in the NBA and baseball largely stays away from these topics..

Wasn't Hayward following some right wing youtuber a story for a hot second?

Andre Bogut former number 1 pick is speaking the fuck up and caring about the feelings of anyone. So that's good.

cd021
06-27-2018, 06:46 AM
Getting shit done

J.J. Watt Ends Harvey Relief Fundraiser After Raising More Than $37 Million
https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/09/15/jj-watt-hurricane-harvey-fundrasier-37-million

John Cena is not only the most-requested athlete in the Make-A-Wish Foundation, he's blown everyone else out of the water, granting more than 500 wishes to date.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2656316-10-current-athletes-who-are-ridiculously-charitable

Eli Manning raised nearly $3 million over a five year-period from 2007 to 2012 to build his Eli Manning Children's Clinic in Mississippi, which provides outpatient care to more than 75,000 children each year.

As for your social and political activism, all it takes is a 5 min google search.

Huston Street the Angels pitcher, “Pray for #PhilandoCastile and #AltonSterling families and then demand justice, my nephews are young black men and their future depends on it.” He’s a white baseball player.

White NFL players that kneeled during the anthem Adam Gotsis, Seth DeValve, Travis Kelce, James Cowser.

Majority of white players took a knee at Texans game.
https://www.theroot.com/houston-texans-players-including-white-teammates-knee-1819955775

Alex Smith on Trump “It’s the same guy who couldn’t condemn violent neo-Nazis. And he’s condemning guys taking a knee during the anthem.”
Aaron Rodgers kneeled in response to Trump.

Did Rodgers kneel or did he lock arms? And that was after Trump called Kap a son of a bitch and NFL owners changed the meaning behind the protests from police brutality to "Unity" its not the same thing.

And wasn't the Texans protests in response to their asshole owner?

Some white players have stepped up but certainly not many. It's not mandatory for them to do so but it is the best way to advance a social cause.

DeRozan m8
06-27-2018, 06:55 AM
It's always the white males fault :rolleyes

james evans
06-27-2018, 06:56 AM
There’s always injustice, I doubt Oscar Robertson experiences any
Another dumbass post from a priveledged individual. Yeah a man that grew up in segregation under poor circumstances has never experienced anything. To any person of color in this thread, this is how they feel about all of us at the end of the day. I personally dont care if a white man speaks for me or not.

Othyus Lalanne
06-27-2018, 06:57 AM
Did Rodgers kneel or did he lock arms? And that was after Trump called Kap a son of a bitch and NFL owners changed the meaning behind the protests from police brutality to "Unity" its not the same thing.

And wasn't the Texans protests in response to their asshole owner?

Some white players have stepped up but certainly not many. It's not mandatory for them to do so but it is the best way to advance a social cause.

Why would they do it?

The Left fucking hates whiteness whatever the fuck that is.

look_at_g_shred
06-27-2018, 07:27 AM
Typical Harlem subject/thread

Allan Rowe vs Wade
06-27-2018, 07:50 AM
wrong forum tbh

cd021
06-27-2018, 08:04 AM
Why would they do it?

The Left fucking hates whiteness whatever the fuck that is.

One could say that the right hates non-whites tbh

cd021
06-27-2018, 08:05 AM
Typical Harlem subject/thread

Thread was started by MAGA super fan Ducks

boutons_deux
06-27-2018, 08:11 AM
Oscar wonders about absence of white engagement

while

Hank Aaron says he agrees with GSW boycotting Trash's WH

Spurs9
06-27-2018, 08:56 AM
wrong forum

dabom
06-27-2018, 09:28 AM
MLK said the same thing. Nothing racist about it. But you need to understand context first.

HarlemHeat37
06-27-2018, 09:37 AM
I actually disagree about white athletes needing to speak up, it really doesn't matter to me..

Like I said, the only options would be NFL QBs, but they would be stupid to say anything, as they have plenty to lose in a league with so much conservative money..I said the same when Cam Newton was accused of being a coon, it would be moronic for him to speak on these issues, he would lose everything..

NBA players are different, it's a league where the players are much bigger than the teams..niggas like Jordan and Kobe could have said anything without any backlash..

diego
06-27-2018, 09:37 AM
It needed to be said but he should have acknowledged the white athletes that have spoken up, and more importantly emphasized that actions speak louder than words regardless who pronounces them

Othyus Lalanne
06-27-2018, 10:08 AM
One could say that the right hates non-whites tbh

How many mainstream articles about the inferiority of non white people? Is black male an insult on the right?

BSfromTX
06-27-2018, 10:16 AM
How about quit feeding the media narratives and their constant effort to divide us. We don't realize it, but we are all on the same team except for less than 1% of the population.

They're playing all of us like fools

Othyus Lalanne
06-27-2018, 01:18 PM
How about quit feeding the media narratives and their constant effort to divide us. We don't realize it, but we are all on the same team except for less than 1% of the population.

They're playing all of us like fools
PC needs to be smashed, it's the topol of those people.

Mikeanaro
06-27-2018, 01:21 PM
The 60s were a trillion years ago, live the present you fat fuck.

Kool Bob Love
06-27-2018, 01:23 PM
The only voices that would matter on this issue are NFL QBs like Brady and Rodgers..there aren't any prominent white stars in the NBA and baseball largely stays away from these topics..
Shut the fuck up Mohammed

cd021
06-27-2018, 02:36 PM
How many mainstream articles about the inferiority of non white people? Is black male an insult on the right?

Kinda rambling now tbh. :lol

cd021
06-27-2018, 02:40 PM
How about quit feeding the media narratives and their constant effort to divide us. We don't realize it, but we are all on the same team except for less than 1% of the population.

They're playing all of us like fools

Are we? Blaming the big bad media for the divide in the country is silly to me, it's like someone blaming the dog for their wife leaving them

AFMadison
06-27-2018, 06:41 PM
Yeah, black people never experience prejudice ever.
They all do! Every day 24/7.

AFMadison
06-27-2018, 06:42 PM
It's not like he played during the 60s or anything:lol
I said experiences not experienced

AFMadison
06-27-2018, 06:43 PM
Bill Russell too, I bet. Black people haven't experienced racism in 100 year's, at least
I said experiences not experienced

cd021
06-27-2018, 11:11 PM
I said experiences not experienced

Your point was still pretty silly, no matter what tense of the word you use.

It's not like people automatically know that he is The Big O- one of the greatest basketball players in NBA history, so I doubt he gets preferential treatment because of that and certainly not his kids and grandkids.

Othyus Lalanne
06-28-2018, 12:33 AM
Kinda rambling now tbh. :lol

Why ther fuck not if i am telling the truth.

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06-28-2018, 12:36 AM
It's always the white males fault :rolleyes

What a raw deal, amirite? Poor whiteys.

Othyus Lalanne
06-28-2018, 01:26 AM
What a raw deal, amirite? Poor whiteys.

Not for long if the left acts like this. You overreach the invisible hand will fuck you up.

DeRozan m8
06-28-2018, 04:14 AM
What a raw deal, amirite? Poor whiteys.

Not really, the whiteys will keep getting shit done, instead of finger pointing all the time and playing the victim card.

Atl Spur
06-28-2018, 06:47 AM
Shut the fuck up Mohammed

You can’t help yourself huh? Funny dude..

Atl Spur
06-28-2018, 06:54 AM
Not really, the whiteys will keep getting shit done, instead of finger pointing all the time and playing the victim card.

Do you know the demographics of the U.S?

Biggems
06-28-2018, 07:18 AM
Those pesky racist and hate-filled whiteys pay for most of the social reform that actually happens in this country. But keep that on the down-low, wouldn't want to ruin the narrative of the socialist and facist left.

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06-28-2018, 07:28 AM
Not really, the whiteys will keep getting shit done, instead of finger pointing all the time and playing the victim card.

As I thought, you're a MAGAt.

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06-28-2018, 07:29 AM
Not for long if the left acts like this. You overreach the invisible hand will fuck you up.

Invisible hand? Is that like the KKK?

Dear Lawd, Trump has given you fools a spine.

Othyus Lalanne
06-28-2018, 07:45 AM
Those pesky racist and hate-filled whiteys pay for most of the social reform that actually happens in this country. But keep that on the down-low, wouldn't want to ruin the narrative of the socialist and facist left.

At this point the left is main creator of that narrative.


Invisible hand? Is that like the KKK?

Dear Lawd, Trump has given you fools a spine.

How would it be? The KKK barely exists.

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06-28-2018, 07:56 AM
How would it be? The KKK barely exists.

Oh, they exist. Just don't need to put a sheet over their heads out of shame anymore.

You've got guys running for Congress openly calling for separation of the races, like it's 1930 up in this bitch.

Which invisible hand will strike the left down, btw? Jordan Peterson...:rollin

housious
06-28-2018, 10:32 AM
Where are the white athletes...

That agree with me on political and social issues.

That's what he actually means.

Extra Stout
06-28-2018, 10:54 AM
Sadly, since Oscar Robertson has spent the last 60 years being a malcontent and calling everybody out for everything, his words carry little credibility.

Especially since several white athletes who have stood in solidarity immediately come to mind.

Othyus Lalanne
06-28-2018, 01:40 PM
Oh, they exist. Just don't need to put a sheet over their heads out of shame anymore.

You've got guys running for Congress openly calling for separation of the races, like it's 1930 up in this bitch.

Which invisible hand will strike the left down, btw? Jordan Peterson...:rollin

You are chasing ghosts.

Peterson is part of it.

DeRozan m8
06-28-2018, 03:26 PM
As I thought, you're a MAGAt.

No I'm not, your politics are just globalist distraction.

BSfromTX
06-28-2018, 03:40 PM
Are we? Blaming the big bad media for the divide in the country is silly to me, it's like someone blaming the dog for their wife leaving them

uh, yeah I am blaming the media. You will always have hate and prejudice. You will never get rid of it. They manage to divide us on SOOOO many issues. Gay marriage, politics, kneeling for the anthem, transgender bathrooms, abortion, religion, race, gun rights, the list goes on forever. I'm not blaming the media for differences of opinion. That will always exist, but they manage to get us to bicker and debate each other on these issues practically to the death while they suck us dry of our time, labor, and happiness.



I'm just saying ingore it all and look at who exactly controls the media and what do they have to gain from pushing this crap ALL THE FREAKING TIME.

cd021
06-28-2018, 04:26 PM
uh, yeah I am blaming the media. You will always have hate and prejudice. You will never get rid of it. They manage to divide us on SOOOO many issues. Gay marriage, politics, kneeling for the anthem, transgender bathrooms, abortion, religion, race, gun rights, the list goes on forever. I'm not blaming the media for differences of opinion. That will always exist, but they manage to get us to bicker and debate each other on these issues practically to the death while they suck us dry of our time, labor, and happiness.


I'm just saying ingore it all and look at who exactly controls the media and what do they have to gain from pushing this crap ALL THE FREAKING TIME.

Kneeling for the anthem took off when the President attacked Kap; that isn't on the media, nor is the gun debate- that has more to do with people being sick of all the mass shootings (there was yet another one today).

Issues of race are often picked up nationally only because it goes viral on social media such as someone uploading a video or an article that gets widely shared and starts trending.

Again, blaming the media is ignoring the issues and finding a scapegoat.

AFMadison
06-28-2018, 10:05 PM
Your point was still pretty silly, no matter what tense of the word you use.

It's not like people automatically know that he is The Big O- one of the greatest basketball players in NBA history, so I doubt he gets preferential treatment because of that and certainly not his kids and grandkids.
Opinions are opinions. You have yours, I have mine.

BSfromTX
06-28-2018, 10:17 PM
Kneeling for the anthem took off when the President attacked Kap; that isn't on the media, nor is the gun debate- that has more to do with people being sick of all the mass shootings (there was yet another one today).

Issues of race are often picked up nationally only because it goes viral on social media such as someone uploading a video or an article that gets widely shared and starts trending.

Again, blaming the media is ignoring the issues and finding a scapegoat.

well, imo, Trump is just an instrument along with the media. The two go hand in hand. I’m not saying they create it, and I apologize of it came across that way. I’m just saying they exacerbate and fan the flames on these issues. As for social media, it’s beginning to lose its authenticity and beginning to be more controlled.

Its funny how we were told about Germany’s propaganda, Russia, North Korea, all these other countries spewing propaganda to their citizens and believing that we were different over the last 100 years...we are no different. We are subjected to the same misinformation and divisiveness..

im just saying this stuff is only to stoke the fires. Don’t let them get the best of us. Question the narrative and be discerning. It’s almost always negative. Divide and conquer, right?

cd021
06-28-2018, 10:20 PM
Opinions are opinions. You have yours, I have mine.
Sure but saying he doesn't get discriminated against because who he is, doesn't take into account that not many people outside of the NBA circle knows who he is-let alone knows what he looks like, and certainly not his kids or grand kids.

In my opinion, saying that a black person can't speak up about social issues because he's wealthy/famous is both flawed and silly.

dbestpro
06-28-2018, 10:33 PM
Racism is like a disease. You accuse someone of being racist they almost have to take a racist stance to defend themselves. I use to be a member of the NAACP and I can tell you that trying to fix a social ill by race will never fix the social ill. Focus on the social ill for everyone and the social ill will get addressed. If one race is truly affected by the social ill more than another then it will get fixed regardless. What I do know is we all do better at getting things done when we say we and don't use identifiers that divide us. Not all black people are alike. Not all white people are alike. Not all Asians or Hispanics are alike. We need to move to the age of the individual and stop identifying our worth by the groups we are a part of.

cd021
06-28-2018, 10:35 PM
well, imo, Trump is just an instrument along with the media. The two go hand in hand. I’m not saying they create it, and I apologize of it came across that way. I’m just saying they exacerbate and fan the flames on these issues. As for social media, it’s beginning to lose its authenticity and beginning to be more controlled.

Its funny how we were told about Germany’s propaganda, Russia, North Korea, all these other countries spewing propaganda to their citizens and believing that we were different over the last 100 years...we are no different. We are subjected to the same misinformation and divisiveness..

im just saying this stuff is only to stoke the fires. Don’t let them get the best of us. Question the narrative and be discerning. It’s almost always negative. Divide and conquer, right?


You don't have to apologize for your opinion I just disagree with it. The media isn't covering news for the helluva-it, they have to make profits, that being said that doesn't mean that they sensationalize news to make a person, group, organization or political party look bad. I think blaming the media, is a misdirect that takes the pressure on those that need to be held accountable.

For example; the Trump administration came up with the "zero-tolerance policy" regarding immigration. After people starting protesting families being separated, media coverage, and poling showing 2/3rd of Americans disagreed with the policy, he blamed the Democrats, the media, and congress and said his hands were tied- two days later he ended his policy.

AFMadison
06-28-2018, 11:54 PM
Sure but saying he doesn't get discriminated against because who he is, doesn't take into account that not many people outside of the NBA circle knows who he is-let alone knows what he looks like, and certainly not his kids or grand kids.

In my opinion, saying that a black person can't speak up about social issues because he's wealthy/famous is both flawed and silly.
I’m not saying he can’t speak up, I’m just not assuming he experiences discrimination because he’s black