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Chinook
06-28-2018, 03:22 AM
I bumped this in the Think Tank before asking myself "Who goes to the Think Tank in the off-season?" I was looking through the Trade Thread there at posts from like 2013, and I came across this beaut (especially the bold):


I don't think he beats out Splitter directly, let alone Splitter and four mid-level prospects. Splitter has a better contract (Tiago will probably make half of what Aldridge will make in 2015-2017) and a better prognosis for success beyond the next two seasons, as Aldridge's injuries are very troublesome even in the short term. For right now, I think you guys might be overestimating the upgrade that Aldridge is to Splitter, or at least the upgrade that Duncan/Aldridge/Diaw/Pendergraph is to Duncan/Splitter/Diaw/Pendergraph. While LA would have been a tougher match-up for Miami due to his offense, Splitter's mobility was essential to even being able to attempt to stay big against the Heat. Splitter's defense the other three series definitely seems more valuable to me than Aldridge's potential offense, as the Spurs scored very well.

As I said, though, the biggest problem I have is the timing. This trade would have looked a lot better to me earlier, as the team would have been able to gear free agency toward replacing Splitter's role as the backup center. Now (or actually after January 15, as that's the earliest Splitter can be traded), there's no real opportunity to do that, and there's even less opportunity to work the pieces in mid-season. I don't think it would raise the team's ceiling unless Baynes or Pendergraph breaks out and proves to be capable to filling Splitter's current role.

My fucking god, if I could turn back the hands of time. I don't think a read has ever been so wrong.

What was your worst take? Most people probably don't have anything near this bad, but I'm sure there are some doozies out there. Hopefully people will feel brazen enough to share.

NickiRasgo
06-28-2018, 03:34 AM
I said some comparison between Jeff Pendergraph and Tyson Chandler based on highlights in terms of athleticism. :lol

spursistan
06-28-2018, 03:35 AM
Most likely I did, but I can't remember making an egregious take; although I would definitely say that I completely overestimated Leonard-- the total player package-- and his meaning for this franchise going forward..

I admit that I believed he would be a cornerstone in the Robinson/Duncan mold. He quite miserably failed at the first hurdle. Not only that, but he is taking it upon himself to sink this entire ship..

tbdog
06-28-2018, 04:07 AM
Years ago I wanted spurs to move from Pop when his time was up (which it seemed it was coming before Timmy got a second wind), with Byron Scott.

Stabula
06-28-2018, 04:34 AM
I thought Leonard would be the next Duncan.

Spurtacular
06-28-2018, 04:36 AM
I once said that we should trade Kawhi for Avery Bradley or Trevor Ariza.

BatManu20
06-28-2018, 04:36 AM
When I said Kawhi was cut from the same cloth as Timmy.

TheGreatYacht
06-28-2018, 05:40 AM
When I said Drunkford's offseason last year would set this franchise back the next 3-4 years (the length of Fatty and Gaysol's contracts) when in reality it ended this franchise forever.

Kawhi is the franchise. Your future is now Fathead & Murray who can't shoot and never will... and Lonnie Walker, who was inefficient in college and everyone is buying in on him because of either "potential" or they're straight PATFO cum guzzlers who still hype Bertans and Hanga to this day.

TrainOfThought5
06-28-2018, 06:03 AM
I thought Leonard would be the next Duncan.

Hit me right in my fucking feelings.

MVPCues
06-28-2018, 06:05 AM
When I gave the Spurs no realistic chance to return to the finals and win it in 14.

MaNu4Tres
06-28-2018, 06:17 AM
When I thought it made zero sense for the Spurs to pay Patty, and thought they never would.

When I thought they should have signed Plumlee in summer of 16' ( Wanted him & Harkless that summer for Pau money combined).

picnroll
06-28-2018, 06:30 AM
I wanted McCaw rather than Murray and so far that’s been very bad.

On the plus side I started a thread on 5/23/17 before the 2017 draft titled a trade everyone will hate where I took immense shit

“Trade Leonard to Boston for both Brooklyn picks plus their own first this year and Jaylen Brown. Pick Fultz. Tank next year and have two very high lottery picks. With cap space in 2020 go after a big time FA. Move forward.” Wish Spurs has done some variation of that Boston deal.

spursistan
06-28-2018, 06:44 AM
When I said Drunkford's offseason last year would set this franchise back the next 3-4 years (the length of Fatty and Gaysol's contracts) when in reality it ended this franchise forever.

Kawhi is the franchise. Your future is now Fathead & Murray who can't shoot and never will... and Lonnie Walker, who was inefficient in college and everyone is buying in on him because of either "potential" or they're straight PATFO cum guzzlers who still hype Bertans and Hanga to this day.

Remember when a certain poster thought he was Shawn Marion 2.0 tho? Not sure who :lol..

SAGirl
06-28-2018, 07:32 AM
I haven't been around in this forum long enough...

but I do remember Apalisocs trade Kiwi for Beal and Ariza...

I remember Manu4tres was adamant Spurs would let Paddy go this past summer... It wasn't egregious, but he was so adamant and convinced.

I also remember dabom welching on a bet this season that Kiwi would be back and play after the ASB, then prior to the playoffs, then in the playoffs. That was epic. Dabom also proclaimed Kiwi's triumphant return in the playoffs two season's ago to face GSW. Little did he know that was the beginning of the end.

I thought last summer Lamarcus was gone for sure tho... he was sending all the signals that he wanted to be traded... I underestimated Pop in that he could be persuaded.

Some would say, my takes on Kyle. He's an NBA player tho and the troll consensus was that he wasn't... Perhaps how adamant I was at the time was hilarious tho.

SAGirl
06-28-2018, 07:33 AM
Remember when a certain poster thought he was Shawn Marion 2.0 tho? Not sure who :lol..
true...
:toast

Spurs da champs
06-28-2018, 07:35 AM
Probably TP for Michael Beasley trade suggestion back when I was a dumb young blood.

r0drig0lac
06-28-2018, 07:35 AM
I once said that we should trade Kawhi for Avery Bradley or Trevor Ariza.

wow, I guess no one gets over this.

Lakers999
06-28-2018, 07:39 AM
Mine is when I defended the lakers when we turned down the trade offer of a pick and Robert Sacre for Hassan whiteside. Yes that was on the table for us before he went to Miami.

I did done fucked up on that one as well as the lakers

Allan Rowe vs Wade
06-28-2018, 07:53 AM
Beno>TP

SpursforSix
06-28-2018, 08:34 AM
:pop: Mills being a starting caliber point guard

sasaint
06-28-2018, 08:58 AM
Beno>TP

I was with you on that one. :lol

DeadlyDynasty
06-28-2018, 09:07 AM
I thought Fitzpatrick was our franchise QB after the hot start in 2011.

RD2191
06-28-2018, 09:13 AM
Fuck, where do I start.

Gino20
06-28-2018, 09:15 AM
Okay with the Spurs trading Tony Parker for Chris Kaman (when he was with the Clippers). Yuck.

ernest787
06-28-2018, 09:18 AM
I used to debate my buddy in college leading up the draft in 2003. He was telling me LBJ was going to be a monster in the NBA. I told him hes 18 and never played against NBA athletes and the Cavs should pick Darko over him.

Dude has never let me live that one down. Oops.

dbestpro
06-28-2018, 09:21 AM
I thought Walter Berry was going to be a star, and that Alfredrick Hughes might actually be a good pick.

ECOV
06-28-2018, 09:41 AM
Jabari was a reliable source

Dex
06-28-2018, 09:54 AM
I was excited as shit when the Spurs got Richard Jefferson.

dbestpro
06-28-2018, 09:57 AM
I was excited as shit when the Spurs got Richard Jefferson.

I thought my admission was bad, but man...................

Allan Rowe vs Wade
06-28-2018, 09:58 AM
I was excited as shit when the Spurs got Richard Jefferson.

yep. finally an athletic slasher!

Allan Rowe vs Wade
06-28-2018, 09:58 AM
I was with you on that one. :lol

Beno Time!

RD2191
06-28-2018, 10:00 AM
I was excited as shit when the Spurs got Richard Jefferson.

Permaban

spurraider21
06-28-2018, 10:23 AM
thought Duncan was done after 2011 playoffs

Gagnrath
06-28-2018, 11:06 AM
I had a couple... First one I really thought Garret Temple should stick with the Spurs and that he and George Hill would make a very good backcourt together. (I am not. Sure if they overlapped in Sacramento), but Temple never lived up to the promise I thought I saw as a 10 day combo guard with the Spurs.

Second sometime in 2015 I stated something along the lines of Duncan was going to have a throwback final postseason for his 20th year as a spur winning a 6th and handing the team over to Leonard in confetti over the Larry O'Brien trophy. Not sure if I call it a take so much as a belief in the Spurs way and Duncan.

mudyez
06-28-2018, 11:11 AM
Soccer-related but whatever...


We are ready for 2018!

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-lYfzmPcrgdU/V399JhlA-eI/AAAAAAAAkT4/rGMBP9ENkoItCMiXKTY7FiYutVJoOtlTgCLcB/s1600/DFB-Trikots-Zwangsjacken.jpg

rjv
06-28-2018, 11:30 AM
I thought Leonard would be the next Duncan. never stated it but sure as hell thought it.

SAGirl
06-28-2018, 11:30 AM
DAF86 said Davis Bertans was going to be an allstar tbh

Chinook
06-28-2018, 11:36 AM
DAF86 said Davis Bertans was going to be an allstar tbh

People said a lot of good things. The hope is that we are willing to call ourselves out, not that someone is going to call us out for us. That happens plenty on here as it is.

Chinook
06-28-2018, 11:37 AM
I also thought Ayres would develop into a starter if he could learn how to shoot. Maybe that doesn't seem so bad because Danny had us optimistic that Boylen knew something we didn't. But this was in his second season. I should have known better.

SAGirl
06-28-2018, 11:39 AM
People said a lot of good things. The hope is that we are willing to call ourselves out, not that someone is going to call us out for us. That happens plenty on here as it is.
Had to do it for him... outside of Dabom's takes on Kiwi's injury return DAF86 strikes me as the one most missing his target recently. :lol

Haven't seen that dude recently either... perhaps a summer vacay I hope.

sasaint
06-28-2018, 11:42 AM
Beno Time!

Until Beno’s collapse against Detroit I was ready to trade Tony. :lol

sasaint
06-28-2018, 11:46 AM
I was excited as shit when the Spurs got Richard Jefferson.

Wasn’t everybody initially excited?

SAGirl
06-28-2018, 11:46 AM
:pop: Mills being a starting caliber point guard

:pop: Bryn Forbes being Steph Curry part 2.

Chinook
06-28-2018, 11:46 AM
Wasn’t everybody initially excited?

Not Bowen.

DMC
06-28-2018, 12:00 PM
I once admitted to being wrong about something but it turns out I was right.

SpursforSix
06-28-2018, 12:01 PM
:pop: Bryn Forbes being Steph Curry part 2.

:pop: Timmy's not a good rebounder in the closing minutes of close out Finals games.

Silver&Black
06-28-2018, 12:03 PM
I thought Fitzpatrick was our franchise QB after the hot start in 2011.

I thought Jameis Winston would stop sexually assaulting women when he got to the NFL. Boy was I wrong.

Chinook
06-28-2018, 12:16 PM
I thought Jameis Winston would stop sexually assaulting women when he got to the NFL. Boy was I wrong.

Seriously. WTF?

JPB
06-28-2018, 12:17 PM
That you were a good poster.

Silver&Black
06-28-2018, 01:00 PM
Seriously. WTF?

I know right? Talk about an all-time terrible take.

DAF86
06-28-2018, 01:11 PM
I bumped this in the Think Tank before asking myself "Who goes to the Think Tank in the off-season?" I was looking through the Trade Thread there at posts from like 2013, and I came across this beaut (especially the bold):



My fucking god, if I could turn back the hands of time. I don't think a read has ever been so wrong.

What was your worst take? Most people probably don't have anything near this bad, but I'm sure there are some doozies out there. Hopefully people will feel brazen enough to share.

That's not even close to your worst take, son. :lol

Mine would probably be that I thought that Carmelo and the Thunder would do very well this past season.

DAF86
06-28-2018, 01:12 PM
DAF86 said Davis Bertans was going to be an allstar tbh

I still stand firmly behind that statement, tbh.

Baam
06-28-2018, 01:34 PM
My worst take was when I thought it's was a huge mistake to let Gary Neal go. I used the expression "season saving shot" a lot around that time. I also loved and still love many many scrubs.

SAGirl
06-28-2018, 01:35 PM
I still stand firmly behind that statement, tbh.
glad to see you back.
:toast

DAF86
06-28-2018, 01:36 PM
glad to see you back.
:toast

Back? I never left, tbh. In fact, I think I started more threads on these past few weeks than in the rest of my 10 years here. :lol

HarlemHeat37
06-28-2018, 01:38 PM
Had to do it for him... outside of Dabom's takes on Kiwi's injury return DAF86 strikes me as the one most missing his target recently. :lol



:wow

spurraider21
06-28-2018, 01:38 PM
i was also on the AK47 hype train that one summer

SAGirl
06-28-2018, 01:41 PM
:wow
I kinda also root for Davis to be successful, specially if he remains a Spur, but I do believe claims that he will be an all star are outlandish... all due respect to DAF86.

if that take gets me on record in this thread as a terrible wrong one, I am fine with that too...


as for Dabom, you do know the ridiculous takes he had on Kiwi's injury... which I really think are him hoping Kawhi was coming back, can't fault him for that... but he had to take on bets to ban himself and all tho. He had to be all so melodramatic about it... couldn't be more wrong on his opinion on Kiwi.

Allan Rowe vs Wade
06-28-2018, 01:45 PM
:pop: Timmy's not a good rebounder in the closing minutes of close out Finals games.

lol

cjw
06-28-2018, 01:46 PM
Probably pre-Spurstalk days for me, but I thought the Cavs were insane to take Kyrie over Derrick Williams.

SAGirl
06-28-2018, 01:47 PM
Back? I never left, tbh. In fact, I think I started more threads on these past few weeks than in the rest of my 10 years here. :lol
i took a break myself and logged in like 2 days ago and hadn't seen you post recently about all this Kiwi stuff. anyways, thought you were just on a summer holiday or something. :lol

Chinook
06-28-2018, 01:51 PM
That's not even close to your worst take, son. :lol

Mine would probably be that I thought that Carmelo and the Thunder would do very well this past season.

That's easily my worst take that can be legitimately attributed to me. There are some that people have misconstrued (like me wanting to start West), but that one I said straight up and repeated for like a month. Horrible. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure I have other zingers out there (just look at the thread from around the time of my OP post). 2013 was a weird year.

What made this take so bad was assuming Splitter would age well. Dude broke down less than a year later, and LMA dropped 40 on Houston in two back-to-back playoff games. Had that trade been possible, SA would have repeated with a legit shot at a three-peat, and GS as we know it would never have happened. So bad.

DAF86
06-28-2018, 02:18 PM
That's easily my worst take that can be legitimately attributed to me. There are some that people have misconstrued (like me wanting to start West), but that one I said straight up and repeated for like a month. Horrible. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure I have other zingers out there (just look at the thread from around the time of my OP post). 2013 was a weird year.

What made this take so bad was assuming Splitter would age well. Dude broke down less than a year later, and LMA dropped 40 on Houston in two back-to-back playoff games. Had that trade been possible, SA would have repeated with a legit shot at a three-peat, and GS as we know it would never have happened. So bad.

Thinking back then (when we didn't know Splitter was never going to play again) that an Aldridge (that would cost twice as much) wouldn't make the Spurs that much better, is not as horrible as saying Aldridge should be the number one option over Kawhi, when we all knew back then that Kawhi was a top 3 player and Aldridge wasn't that good of a number one option for a championship team, tbh.

Chinook
06-28-2018, 02:21 PM
Thinking back then (when we didn't know Splitter was never going to play again) that an Aldridge (that would cost twice as much) wouldn't make the Spurs that much better, is not as horrible as saying Aldridge should be the number one option over Kawhi, when we all knew back then that Kawhi was a top 3 player and Aldridge wasn't that good of a number one option for a championship team, tbh.

Let's put it this way: the same person should not have had both of those takes.

Arcadian
06-28-2018, 02:24 PM
I wouldn't say that misreading Leonard was a "bad take" because the data available indicated he was a franchise player. There was really no way to predict what happened.

SAGirl
06-28-2018, 02:26 PM
can't really predict injuries tho.
Who could have known Kiwi would miss 73 games, grow a bone in his thigh and en route to snubbing the team, would ask to be traded to the Lakers.

If someone had made that outlandish claim last summer we would have said, it was a Laker troll.

Yet here we are.

Real life is sometimes stranger than fiction... or something to that effect.

Frank Dux
06-28-2018, 02:48 PM
I once argued that Earl Boykins was actually a better basketball player than Avery Johnson.

Now I'd like to hear from some of the people on here who said that Dejuan Whatablair was basically the next Charles Barkley.

r0drig0lac
06-28-2018, 03:10 PM
I thought Jameis Winston would stop sexually assaulting women when he got to the NFL. Boy was I wrong.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smilol.gif

Keepin' it real
06-28-2018, 03:21 PM
Mine wasn't a bad take, but rather, a question that was quickly twisted into a bad take by ST.

During halftime of game 1 of the Spurs-GSW semis in 2013, I asked if Harrison Barnes (who was ballin' that game) was better than Kawhi Leanord.

This place went nuts. I'd never heard of Barnes, but he outplayed Leanord badly that game, so it was a legit question at the time.

BD24
06-28-2018, 04:06 PM
I once said that we should trade Kawhi for Avery Bradley or Trevor Ariza.
:lol Ariza and Beal. Get it right homie.

Cklbmk
06-28-2018, 04:13 PM
I thought Tony Snell was going to be really good

DPG21920
06-28-2018, 04:14 PM
My worst take was that Hill for Kawhi was a bad trade. It wasn’t because of Kawhi which is what people turned it into, but because we traded our good young piece for another when I wanted to keep Hill and add youth like Kawhi.

jimbo
06-28-2018, 05:00 PM
Tiago just completely fell apart at the end. If he were healthy I still think we would have been better off dumping Diaw instead of him...but the FO obv knew more about his health than we did. Completely shocking that they'd swindle Bud like they did IMO.

I've got a short memory, but I thought the Boston Nets would have been much better than they were. I didn't see them falling apart so quickly and never even being a top tier team either. Even at the time people knew that their window was only ~2 years long and that most likely one of the picks was gonna be good, but I never saw both of them being that great.

FkLA
06-28-2018, 07:38 PM
My worst take was that Hill for Kawhi was a bad trade. It wasn’t because of Kawhi which is what people turned it into, but because we traded our good young piece for another when I wanted to keep Hill and add youth like Kawhi.

Same. I argued (correctly) that Hill was capable of being a starting PG, and that the reins should've been handed over to him and Enrique traded. Basically thought that trading an established player like Enrique would've netted an established piece since I wasn't ready to rebuild--which is the direction it felt like the Spurs were headed towards by adding a raw 19 year old.

Super early in his rookie season, I also made a comment that Kawhitter would always be a below average offensive player. Probably just sour grapes because I really liked Hill.

ElNono
06-28-2018, 07:46 PM
When I said Manu was done in 2013, tbh...

Poolboy5623
06-28-2018, 08:32 PM
I once thought Charles Smith was going to be the answer alongside a prime/young DRob :(

Leetonidas
06-28-2018, 08:38 PM
I thought RJ would give the spurs a legit big 4 and they would shit on the Lakers :lmao

ernest787
06-28-2018, 08:41 PM
This is a thread asking for people to give their worst takes and sagirl is in here calling people out. I wish she would disappear again.

RD2191
06-28-2018, 08:43 PM
I thought RJ would give the spurs a legit big 4 and they would shit on the Lakers :lmao

:lol

HarlemHeat37
06-28-2018, 08:57 PM
I have a million posts, volume take giver, so there are plenty, I can only remember the latest egregious ones:lol probably that Paul and Harden wouldn't co-exist..

RJ trade, but that was more of a teenaged homer take that most shared..

For a take that wasn't shared with the public, I'd go with thinking this year's Raptors and the 2015 Hawks could beat LeBron:lol

dabom
06-28-2018, 10:02 PM
This is a thread asking for people to give their worst takes and sagirl is in here calling people out. I wish she would disappear again.

In due time my friend.

SnakeBoy
06-28-2018, 10:57 PM
You amateurs don't know how to fail


Kawhi and KA are the future big two just need to find #3. SloMo has much to work on, especially on defense, but he also has serious skill and he's just a kid. In a recent interview he said they are really making him work on his post up game so I think they envision him someday taking over the 4.

SanAntonioSpurs23
06-28-2018, 11:06 PM
I thought RJ would give the spurs a legit big 4 and they would shit on the Lakers :lmao

Same.

daslicer
06-28-2018, 11:17 PM
Saying CP3 and Harden wouldn't be able to mesh well together.

Allan Rowe vs Wade
06-28-2018, 11:19 PM
You amateurs don't know how to fail

rack

gambit1990
06-29-2018, 12:57 PM
[wrong thread]

callo1
06-29-2018, 02:21 PM
I once thought Charles Smith was going to be the answer alongside a prime/young DRob :(

I believed that as well. One bad back away from possibly being true. How the Spurs medical staff ever gave their stamp of approval on that boggles the mind.

SASdynasty!
06-29-2018, 02:43 PM
I thought KD was too skinny to be a star.

SASdynasty!
06-29-2018, 02:48 PM
I also never thought Tony Parker would be the winningest player of all time in the NBA (minimum 1000 games), outplay and sweep the GOAT in the Finals (2007), and lead his team to a championship as the only All-Star and All-NBA player while leading the team in scoring in the RS, playoffs, & Finals against a superteam (2014).

Chinook
06-29-2018, 03:03 PM
I see a lot of people can't handle this thread.

Drom John
06-29-2018, 03:09 PM
Pre-Spurs talk, I thought Dwayne Schintzius would be a quality starting Center.
Spurstalk, I really disliked the Dejounte Murray pick and thought the Spurs should have picked Zhou Qi.

SAGirl
06-29-2018, 09:03 PM
I see a lot of people can't handle this thread.
Guys have shied away from posting their own bad takes, (then get upset with me if I call some out, not even in a mean way, bc there have been way more funny blunders than the ones shared in here.)

SAGirl
06-29-2018, 09:07 PM
Pre-Spurs talk, I thought Dwayne Schintzius would be a quality starting Center.
Spurstalk, I really disliked the Dejounte Murray pick and thought the Spurs should have picked Zhou Qi.

I liked Murray predraft (have to remember he was drafted at 29)... and I have believed in his potential, but I was MASSIVELY, HUGELY disappointed in his performance last summer league. Not that it was the be all-end all, but I really expected more from him. He played like the worst summer league guy in the team. He was totally off ... In retrostpect he may have been distracted by trade rumors or other things going on. Notoriously, he was held out and played very little while the team featured Bryn Forbes (!)... Still I was very disappointed...

You only get disappointed in a guy when you expect more. Anyways, he's improved a lot and still has my hopes up for his development. He may indeed be star material if he develops offensively.

Budkin
06-30-2018, 01:05 AM
When I said Manu was done in 2013, tbh...

spurs10
06-30-2018, 01:33 AM
Still pre-mature, but if Kawhi is wanting to leave and willing to lose $80 million in the process- then all my takes on 'he's coming back' are pretty bad.

Spurtacular
06-30-2018, 01:47 AM
I was right about Jimmer being the better option than Parker. I don't tend to have "worst" takes even when I'm going against the grain.