Woj: Free agent guard Marco Belinelli has agreed to a two-year, $12M deal with Spurs

[NASpurs]

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[NASpurs]

Ferrari is back bitches!!!!!!

[Ron Swanson]

Ferrari! :cry

[Vic Petro]

Vroom Vroom

[raybies]

dont know what to think... what's his role? where is this money coming from?

[Spurs9]

:wow :wow paging BRHornet, Ferrari!!

[MoSpur02]

That's a good contact. Something is up. Spurs never move this fast in free agency

[Mugen]

:lol the Ferrari!!!!! wtf

[Gibbz]

YES!

[Darius Bieber]

BIG BALLS BELINELLI

[Holden_Caulfield]

bye forbes

[RD2191]

Why?

[bdictjames]

Let's go! What a deal!

[ducks]

Spurs trying to convince Leonard they want to win?

[NASpurs]

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[loveforthegame]

Um. Hmm.

[BatManu20]

Ferrari’s back! Fuck yea :lol



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[Seventyniner]

So the Spurs split the MLE? Seems like they essentially have two BAEs left, around $3.4M each.

[Spurs9]

Great deal

[BillMc]

https://res.cloudinary.com/complex/image/upload/c_fill,g_center,w_1200/fl_lossy,pg_1,q_auto/vnot9cmmtgyayrqtzbil.jpg

[Joseph Kony]

:wow

[Vic Petro]

Ginobili retiring?

[Chinook]

Only good news about this is that it suggests Forbes is gone. I'm not against the idea of Danny going out in a Kawhi trade, but that was to open up more time for the other guards. While Beli is a dynamic shooter who would do well with a vet team, the Spurs no longer have the roster to support him.

[NASpurs]

Is this the end of Fathead?

[Marcus Bryant]

What in the actual fuck?

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Welp for sure Lonnie walker aint getting any PT.

[BillMc]

Why?

Manu retiring?

[Chinook]

So the Spurs split the MLE? Seems like they essentially have two BAEs left, around $3.4M each.

An Ayres return incoming?


I mean, are they finally bringing Milutinov over?

[baseline bum]

Kind of surprised Philly didn't keep him for that little money. $6 million a year is nothing for a quality bench player. Gotta say I'm pleased to get him back on such a cap friendly contract.

[bdictjames]

I don't think anyone saw this coming! We have shooting and playmaking! Belli and Mills in the backcourt. :wow

[raybies]

Kids gonna be glued to the bench again... especially if Manu and Parker come back... they paying for culture tbh

[Hoops Czar]

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I knew this front office would find a way to fuck up the MLE. I suppose Tony gets the other half.

[Keepin' it real]

bye forbes

[objective]

This sucks

His defense is still atrocious and they likely won't have the money for a Milutinov

And he can stunt the development of Walker and White

RC still screwing up the first hour of free agency

[Harry Callahan]

Cool. An alumnus of my favorite Spurs team - the only one I saw in the playoffs in person. Welcome back. Is Manu done??????

[kjhip1]

Forbes should be shown the door. Great to see Marco back! Someone who can hit a damn shot

[99 Problems]

Ferrari to rev it up.....

[cjw]

I knew this front office would find a way to fuck up the MLE. I suppose Tony gets the other half.

You know how the cap works, right? Parker gets resigned with Bird rights

[BillMc]

Bring back Boris and Splitter. Get the 2014 gang back together. :lol

[loveforthegame]

Poor Walker. He has to get over himself before Pop plays him.

[Robz4000]

What the fuck? I like King Beli but I don't see the reasoning behind this unless Kawhi is retained.

[Hoops Czar]

You know how the cap works, right? Parker gets resigned with Bird rights
If they renounce him?

[raybies]

Forbes should be shown the door. Great to see Marco back! Someone who can hit a damn shot
Big Facts... Beli got nuts.

[HarlemHeat37]

Walker and White are never going to play:lol

[RD2191]

And people blaming Kawhi for not wanting to play with this shit roster. :lol

[tbdog]

16mil for Beli and Gay is pretty damn good. Beli was a playoff rotational player last season in Philly. Spending 6% of the cap on a rotational player is great bargain. I think the wing rotation is set. Murray/Mills/Green/Beli with White/Walker taking Forbes minutes with Manu/Parker question return but are vets. Depends what happens with Leonard. If we get a swing back in return or does he stay. But Gay and Kyle are your backup 3 and 4. Its coming together. Need a starting center though.

[timtonymanu]

Living in the past again

[FireMicoHalili]

Manu retiring?
Most likely true, given they’d need some experience especially if they’re taking back younger players after a Kawhi deal

[raybies]

I think at this point you have to move on from Parker and Ginobili...

[Hoops Czar]

What the fuck? I like King Beli but I don't see the reasoning behind this unless Kawhi is retained.
Beli is trash. He was a garbage time player for the Spurs. All he can do is shoot and they had to dip into the MLE for that?

[turb0time]

FERRARI

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Spurs needed shooting and everyone likes Belli but I really thought they'd use the MLE on a big/stretch 4.

[Ditty]

At least Forbes is gone!

[Seventyniner]

I don't think anyone saw this coming! We have shooting and playmaking! Belli and Mills in the backcourt. :wow

I'm not sure I'd call Beli a playmaker. But he's a wizard at moving without the ball so he can make guys who are not otherwise playmakers (Murray, Mills) kind of look like they are.

[FkLA]

Fucking disgusting ass shit. Slow, unathletic motherfucker that can't stay in front of anybody. Get fucking length and players that can defend. WTF is so hard about that, RC?

:pctoss

[Joseph Kony]

why are some of you complaining ::lol spurs are going to suck ass without Leonard anyway and Manu is likely retiring so this is a solid signing tbh. did anyone think we were signing Lebron with the mle or what?

[HarlemHeat37]

I guess this means Gay is going to the 4, which is a better position for him anyways..

[Chinook]

I knew this front office would find a way to fuck up the MLE. I suppose Tony gets the other half.

That would be a waste, because they could give him the exact same contract without using the MLE.

[spurraider21]

bye forbes

[Vic Petro]

Pop and RC prioritize free agents they enjoy drinking with

[dbestpro]

Seems less likely Spurs would take on immature players from LA with the vets they just signed.

[LakerHater]

Welp for sure Lonnie walker aint getting any PT.
Rookies never do with Pop!

[objective]

16mil for Beli and Gay is pretty damn good. Beli was a playoff rotational player last season in Philly. Spending 6% of the cap on a rotational player is great bargain. I think the wing rotation is set. Murray/Mills/Green/Beli with White/Walker taking Forbes minutes with Manu/Parker question return but are vets. Depends what happens with Leonard. If we get a swing back in return or does he stay. But Gay and Kyle are your backup 3 and 4. Its coming together. Need a starting center though.

They spend 6% when they only have 8.7% to spend

He is a terrible defender, can't play SF, and ruins the young athletes at that position they had coming up

This is real bad

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M22lRg_YQGA

[mexicanjunior]

Waste of money...

[spurraider21]

Raven

[TDomination]

I can dig it. Mixing some veterans with the youngans. Not a lot of money and he knows the system. Hopefully this definitely means bye bye Forbes

[cjw]

If they renounce him?

They would do that because?? See Chinook’s post. They can give him any contract they want to without eating into an exception.

[Hoops Czar]

That would be a waste, because they could give him the exact same contract without using the MLE.
They just wasted half the MLE on a guy that should have been signed using the bi annual exception. That's their schtick, it's what they do.

[FkLA]

Holy shit this is disgusting. I'm fucking appalled at how many of you idiots love this signing too.

[Kool Bob Love]

https://www.youtube.com/f70ci_ZHQNw

[Mugen]

Shooting was straight garbage last season and Beli is a proven shooter.

[99 Problems]

First Ferrari I’ve purchased twice tbh....

[spursince#99]

Bruh this team dumb as hell yo 🤦🏽*♂️

[NickiRasgo]

LeBron asking the Spurs to sign players who can shoots 3. :toast

[NASpurs]

Straight up legend

http://chicago.barstoolsports.com/files/2013/11/Capture6.jpg

[Hoops Czar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M22lRg_YQGA
They lost that game in large part to Beli's defense, obviously not shown in the highlights.

[benfti]

Poor Walker. He has to get over himself before Pop plays him.:pop: well he needs to get a fucking hair cut for a start

[kjhip1]

Rookies never do with Pop!

Unless walker balls out in summer league. Would be interesting if he comes out and scores in bunches, but doubtful.

[FkLA]

Who gives a fuck if he can shoot? Forbes can shoot too. So can Davis.

What's the point of trading one player who's only skill is shooting and who can't defend worth a shit for another player that's more expensive?

[BillMc]

Straight up legend

http://chicago.barstoolsports.com/files/2013/11/Capture6.jpg

Didn't know Marco owned a Subway sandwich shop.

[Seventyniner]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M22lRg_YQGA

More of that "mamma mia" shit. Damn I hate the signing already.

[toki9]

This is a strange signing. And given how quickly it happened, there must be something else in the works.

[Mugen]

:lol Walker was never gonna play big minutes.

Forbes is gone, Manu is likely retiring, and TP is probably gone too.

Spurs get some much needed shooting (whether Kawhi is back or not) on a not so terrible contract. I'm fine with this tbh.

[ducks]

Waste of money...

Very tradable

[objective]

Marco almost got the Spurs eliminated against Dallas in 2014 by himself. It wasn't until he was benched that they won it.

He is atrocious. If he's not a Kawhi whisperer this deal is on par with Mills

The market was in the Spurs favor, they just had to wait.

The youth was in their favor, they just had to wait

If this is the kind of deal they think is good. I'm scared of what they take back for Kawhi

There was a reason they didn't re-sign him last time!!!

[Ditty]

Not a fan of using the MLE especially with big man needs. More of a luxury signing. He was really good with Philly.

[Crazymaddopeyo]

I get it. Nobody could hit a fucking shot this season, they know he can make shots. I don’t hate it, I love the people freaking out though.

[Play Boban]

Already the best guard on the roster.

[ducks]

Who gives a fuck if he can shoot? Forbes can shoot too. So can Davis.

What's the point of trading one player who's only skill is shooting and who can't defend worth a shit for another player that's more expensive?

Forbes sucked at shooting in games

[bdictjames]

I'm not sure I'd call Beli a playmaker. But he's a wizard at moving without the ball so he can make guys who are not otherwise playmakers (Murray, Mills) kind of look like they are.
I call anyone part of the Beautiful Game team a playmaker, lol, sorry. :lol

[raybies]

Patty ???? Beli Gay Aldridge closing unit?

[tmtcsc]

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[spurraider21]

They lost that game in large part to Beli's defense, obviously not shown in the highlights.
there are like 20 different games in the video

you're a loon

[rasuo214]

Either Manu is retiring or this is a preemptive move before a Kawhi trade. Otherwise I don't like it at all.

[Mugen]

It's also a possible indicator that the Spurs will try to attach Patty in any Kawhi trade since him and Beli pretty much play the same role.

[TekXX]

A player old ass pop won't have to coach so i guess this signing makes sense in that aspect.

[FkLA]

Marco almost got the Spurs eliminated against Dallas in 2014 by himself. It wasn't until he was benched that they won it.

He is atrocious. If he's not a Kawhi whisperer this deal is on par with Mills

The market was in the Spurs favor, they just had to wait.

The youth was in their favor, they just had to wait

If this is the kind of deal they think is good. I'm scared of what they take back for Kawhi

There was a reason they didn't re-sign him last time!!!

Exactly. Everyone loves to point to that one big shot he made against Miami but people forget he hardly got any minutes during those playoffs after the DAL series because he was so damn unplayable. This is fucking gross, man.

[tmtcsc]

Boris Diaw signing in 3....2....1...

[HarlemHeat37]

Somebody is definitely getting moved now in addition to Kawhi IMO, there are too many rotation players from 1-3..Mills or Green, I would imagine..

[baseline bum]

Rookies never do with Pop!

There was that time Tony Parker got made the starter five games into his NBA career.

[spurraider21]

Somebody is definitely getting moved now in addition to Kawhi IMO, there are too many rotation players from 1-3..Mills or Green, I would imagine..
mills could be part of a kawhi to philly deal tbh

[NASpurs]

Pop's looking to try that new fangle 5 midget guard lineup. Shouldn't be too hard with 40 guards.

[ducks]

Green is expiring unfortunally mills is not

[Ditty]

Comparing Forbes to Belinelli :lol

Forbes was so bad

[024]

I mean it's not a bad contract and Spurs desperately need reliable 3pt shooting. But the Spurs have way too many players at the guard positions... someone has to be moved. Or young players nailed to the bench again. Not like any of them can reliably shoot 3's anyways.

[FkLA]

RC just ruined my night with this. It's been like 15 mins and I'm still as disgusted with it as I was when I first saw the report.

Length, athleticism, not an atrocious defender...is that too much to ask for?

[Mugen]

RC just ruined my night with this. It's been like 15 mins and I'm still as disgusted with it as I was when I first saw the report.

Length, athleticism, not an atrocious defender...is that too much to ask for?

I mean they got Rudy Gay. Who did you want? Ariza just got 15mil :lol

[Chucho]

We get a much needed void filled with shooting and it's someone who knows the system/way and its dirt cheap as far as deals go and "fans" doing ST schtick depression and anger and rage schticks. Never change, ST zealots.

[RD2191]

RC just ruined my night with this. It's been like 15 mins and I'm still as disgusted with it as I was when I first saw the report.

Length, athleticism, not an atrocious defender...is that too much to ask for?

And you're mad at Kawhi for not wanting to play with this shit roster? :lol

[Mugen]

This would complicate a Philly trade if we got Fultz back in the deal. That would suck if we traded with them and he wasn't included tbh.

[HarlemHeat37]

Murray/Parker or White or Walker
Mills/Beli
Anderson/Green
Gay/Bertans
Aldridge/Pau

(Assuming Kyle and Bertans are retained)

That's not including a Kawhi trade or if Kawhi ends up playing the season..definitely feels like another notable player will be moved..

It was obvious that they weren't going to rebuild with Pop still around, but I hope they'll at least retool on the fly by playing the youth..last year's team was so incredibly boring, this year's team wouldn't be any different without Kawhi if the young guys don't get to play much..

[horsielove]

BROOM BROOOOOOM MOTHERFUCKER!

[DPG21920]

Can the mle have a team option in year 2?

[LittleCriminal]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOrsR0DnQr0

[LittleCriminal]

Hopefully he's Andersons replacement..

[cjw]

Can the mle have a team option in year 2?

Gay’s had a player option in year 2 (fixed, thanks), so no reason you can’t have a team option. Would be great.

[Chucho]

I mean they got Rudy Gay. Who did you want? Ariza just got 15mil :lol

Exactly. We could get an insane haul for Kawahi that comes as close to perfect as possible, 100% win-win for us and the majority of ST would still find ways to be upset and pan the move.

These types could be give a free, new car off a lot, fully loaded and their response, instead of grattitude and excitement like a normal person, would be, "is it too much to ask for a (insert color here) paint job?". This is 100% why downstairs is waayyyyy more fun than the forum dedicated to the namesake.

[Mugen]

Murray/Parker or White or Walker
Mills/Beli
Anderson/Green
Gay/Bertans
Aldridge/Pau

(Assuming Kyle and Bertans are retained)

That's not including a Kawhi trade or if Kawhi ends up playing the season..definitely feels like another notable player will be moved..

It was obvious that they weren't going to rebuild with Pop still around, but I hope they'll at least retool on the fly by playing the youth..last year's team was so incredibly boring, this year's team wouldn't be any different without Kawhi if the young guys don't get to play much..

Fathead will be back, but Bertans is gone tbh. I also think Parker is gone. Roster makes sense in that regard if Leonard is somehow back.

But they'll definitely try to attach Patty to any Kawhi deal is what I'm thinking.

[John B]

Only good news about this is that it suggests Forbes is gone. I'm not against the idea of Danny going out in a Kawhi trade, but that was to open up more time for the other guards. While Beli is a dynamic shooter who would do well with a vet team, the Spurs no longer have the roster to support him.
or would it??:wakeup

[Mugen]

Gay’s had a team option in year 2, so no reason you can’t have a team option. Would be great.

Gay's was a player option

[FkLA]

I mean they got Rudy Gay. Who did you want? Ariza just got 15mil :lol

Pretty much anybody that isn't an atrocious defender. I would no joke rather have 45 year old Vince Carter than this Italian traffic cone. If money dries up, maybe Hood can be had for the full MLE. Mbah a Moute.

Gay is fine. I like the signing last year and glad he came back.

[Chinook]

Murray/Parker or White or Walker
Mills/Beli
Anderson/Green
Gay/Bertans
Aldridge/Pau

(Assuming Kyle and Bertans are retained)

That's not including a Kawhi trade or if Kawhi ends up playing the season..definitely feels like another notable player will be moved..

It was obvious that they weren't going to rebuild with Pop still around, but I hope they'll at least retool on the fly by playing the youth..last year's team was so incredibly boring, this year's team wouldn't be any different without Kawhi if the young guys don't get to play much..

I really do like the idea of Leonard, Green and Mills to Philly in a package deal. Not only would Philly get Leonard, but they would get two legit role-players in their back-court for the same price they were paying Redick. If they aren't going to get Lebron to join them, this seems like the best use of their resources.

[Hoops Czar]

there are like 20 different games in the video

you're a loon

My bad, I just assumed that the 2 minute video was a game highlight and not his season highlights.

You can't count. The game clip I was referring to was the one on the the cover of the YouTube video which was against the knicks, a game in which they lost because of Beli's defense. Get a grip clown shoes. Belinelli played in 80 games and 2016 minutes during the regular season and his highlight reel is less than two minutes long. And to top it off, they dipped into the MLE to pay this scrub. That's pretty much all anyone needs to know.

[objective]

The BAE would have been fine.

But that much of the MLE is ridiculous. It probably doesn't leave enough to make an impact signing with the remainder AND now he HAS to play over White and Walker. They aren't going to play him that much in the first hour of free agency to be a wise veteran leader behind the young studs

[cjw]

Gay's was a player option

That’s what I meant. My bad. Will correct other post.

But team option is possible

[FkLA]

Hopefully he's Andersons replacement..

Jesus christ.

[pad300]

Value for the money is OK, he's a playable vet for $6M, but I still don't like this. Given the league-wide money shortage this season, the Taxpayer MLE should have been spent as a single large chunk to bring in a high value player - for example, I am confident that Tyreke Evans is going to end up with the full MLE from some team.

[Mugen]

I really do like the idea of Leonard, Green and Mills to Philly in a package deal. Not only would Philly get Leonard, but they would get two legit role-players in their back-court for the same price they were paying Redick. If they aren't going to get Lebron to join them, this seems like the best use of their resources.

And who would the Spurs get back? Danny's contract is pretty valuable and I think Brett would be high enough on Patty to get a deal done with including Green.

[spursreport]

:lol Spurs fans clinging to hope that Kawhi still gets traded. What a desperate group of faggots.

[Chinook]

And who would the Spurs get back? Danny's contract is pretty valuable and I think Brett would be high enough on Patty to get a deal done with including Green.

I think they'd do Bayless/Fultz, Saric, Cov and either their unprotected first or the MIA pick (or both if they send out Bayless) and then just take Green and Mills into cap space.

[Chinook]

:lol Spurs fans clinging to hope that Kawhi still gets traded. What a desperate group of faggots.

Wait, are we supposed to be hoping he gets traded or hoping he stays? We've been looking to you for guidance on this.

[ducks]

:lol Spurs fans clinging to hope that Kawhi still gets traded. What a desperate group of faggots.

Only for value i prefer an extension

[Mugen]

I think they'd do Bayless/Fultz, Saric, Cov and either their unprotected first or the MIA pick (or both if they send out Bayless) and then just take Green and Mills into cap space.

I'd want both those picks if Patty/Green are both included. I'd prefer if was just Kawhi and Patty but if Philly is standing their ground on including Green then I'd do it to get the deal done.

[Hoops Czar]

I think they'd do Bayless/Fultz, Saric, Cov and either their unprotected first or the MIA pick (or both if they send out Bayless) and then just take Green and Mills into cap space.
Does Philly plan to lose these players for nothing or has Kawhi given them some indication that he's willing to sign there?

[FkLA]

Value for the money is OK, he's a playable vet for $6M, but I still don't like this. Given the league-wide money shortage this season, the Taxpayer MLE should have been spent as a single large chunk to bring in a high value player - for example, I am confident that Tyreke Evans is going to end up with the full MLE from some team.

I'm going to throw up if Rodney Hood doesn't get more than the MLE.

[objective]

I think they'd do Bayless/Fultz, Saric, Cov and either their unprotected first or the MIA pick (or both if they send out Bayless) and then just take Green and Mills into cap space.

Wouldn't everyone prefer Green to Bayless when the years and cost is about equal?

I know I would. Despite Green's deep flaws, Bayless is worse

[objective]

Value for the money is OK, he's a playable vet for $6M, but I still don't like this. Given the league-wide money shortage this season, the Taxpayer MLE should have been spent as a single large chunk to bring in a high value player - for example, I am confident that Tyreke Evans is going to end up with the full MLE from some team.

Tyreke would be awesome for the MLE.

Now there's a real replacement for Manu, not Marco.

[MannyIsGod]

LOL Spurs make a great value signing for the bench and people in here with "this sucks". Amazing.

[FkLA]

Gerald Green: 1 yr/2 million

That's a great bench value signing. This is crap since it eats into the MLE.

[Chinook]

I'd want both those picks if Patty/Green are both included. I'd prefer if was just Kawhi and Patty but if Philly is standing their ground on including Green then I'd do it to get the deal done.

I would prefer Kawhi and Patty for Cov, Saric, Bayless, the MIA pick and the rights to Bolden.


Does Philly plan to lose these players for nothing or has Kawhi given them some indication that he's willing to sign there?

They would still have two years of Mills, and I could totally see Green staying. There are a number of reasons to think Leonard would stay in Philly, not the least of which is that it's across the river from where his uncle (THAT uncle) lives.


Wouldn't everyone prefer Green to Bayless when the years and cost is about equal?

I know I would. Despite his deep flaws, Bayless is worse

Obviously. But Green may be the price of getting out of Patty's deal. I'd assume SA wouldn't keep Bayless if they were to acquire him. Somebody take him off their hands.

[ducks]

LOL Spurs make a great value signing for the bench and people in here with "this sucks". Amazing.
Yeah spurs signed big money to mills they bitch great deals they bitch

[CapitalEmm]

:whine
When you have a few drinks and sign the SG version of Pau minutes into free agency. Can’t wait to see that shit lineup in person.

Thanks RC

[MannyIsGod]

Gerald Green: 1 yr/2 million

That's a great bench value signing. This is crap since it eats into the MLE.

The Green deal is just fucking insane. But I'd rather have Beli at 6 over Green at 2 and Paul at 40(!!!!!!).

[Mugen]

I would prefer Kawhi and Patty for Cov, Saric, Bayless, the MIA pick and the rights to Bolden.

Gross.

[ElNono]

wb italian stallion

[ducks]

What in the actual fuck? nothing more?

[cutewizard]

Good signing.lets go!...

[Chinook]

Gross.

You're gross. :madrun

Anyway, getting two big TEs, a solid role-player replacement, a starting-caliber PF, the rights to a really good prospect and an unprotected pick in the most compelling draft in decades is far from terrible. Dunno what you'd prefer.

[FkLA]

I mean why not just use the full MLE to make a run at someone notable? Bring back Forbes for a fraction of the price if you want a "shooter" that will get lit up on the other end. This accomplishes absolutely nothing.

[cutewizard]

Walker, then Murray, then Gay, then NBA 3 point shooting champ Bellinelli.....plus the Leonard replacement....

Pretty good wing plethora guys

[DPG21920]

LOL Spurs make a great value signing for the bench and people in here with "this sucks". Amazing.

It’s a dumb signing. Has nothing to do with value. SA does not need more terribly bad defensive vets. Beli at that price makes sense for a lot of teams. Not SA.

[MannyIsGod]

It’s a dumb signing. Has nothing to do with value. SA does not need more terribly bad defensive vets. Beli at that price makes sense for a lot of teams. Not SA.

The Spurs desperately need shooting and if Beli replaces Forbes (who sucked on D as well) then its a massive upgrade.

[Chinook]

It’s a dumb signing. Has nothing to do with value. SA does not need more terribly bad defensive vets. Beli at that price makes sense for a lot of teams. Not SA.

It feels like yet another off-season where the team went in expecting Green to be off the roster and then refused to adjust when that didn't end up happening.

[Hoops Czar]

LOL Spurs make a great value signing for the bench and people in here with "this sucks". Amazing.
Spent a chunk of the MLE on a player who could have been had for the bi-annual exception? Pretty outrageous but very predictable.

[MannyIsGod]

It feels like yet another off-season where the team went in expecting Green to be off the roster and then refused to adjust when that didn't end up happening.

If the Spurs want t get rid of Green they can do so pretty fucking easily. I really doubt that's the reasoning.

[Boomersgold]

Spurs need their Euros. RC doesn't scout anyone outside of the euro market.

[DPG21920]

The Spurs desperately need shooting and if Beli replaces Forbes (who sucked on D as well) then its a massive upgrade.

Not really. What would adding some more shooting an awful defense do to solve any problems? SA is not contending and should be either signing 1 year deals or letting young guys grow.

Replace Forbes with Beli moves what needle for what purpose while hurting cap space next year.

[Chinook]

If the Spurs want t get rid of Green they can do so pretty fucking easily. I really doubt that's the reasoning.

I don't think it will be that easy. They definitely anticipated trading him last year and failed. This year, they likely expected him to opt out. Sure, they can still trade him, but it would probably have to be for something larger than they were anticipating, they will have to find a way to add him to the Leonard deal.

[Mugen]

Spurs were solid defensively last season despite not having the best defensive player in the league.

They were terrible at shooting.

Spurs sign a proven shooter at a reasonable contract.

Who are they getting at that price that is a solid 2 way player?

[MannyIsGod]

Not really. What would adding some more shooting an awful defense do to solve any problems? SA is not contending and should be either signing 1 year deals or letting young guys grow.

Replace Forbes with Beli moves what needle for what purpose while hurting cap space next year.

The Spurs are obviously going to try to be competitive. I'm under no illusion that this team is going to be a true contender without Kawhi, but they're obviously not going to mail it in either. Anyone wanting a full youth movement or rebuild before Pop hangs it up - and honestly even after then - is just fooling themselves into thinking that is a possibility.

[spursreport]

You're gross. :madrun

Anyway, getting two big TEs, a solid role-player replacement, a starting-caliber PF, the rights to a really good prospect and an unprotected pick in the most compelling draft in decades is far from terrible. Dunno what you'd prefer.

Luckily the Spurs know Kawhi is an elite talent and intend on keeping him, so they don’t have a video game mindset like you do when it comes to things like this. They don’t view the NBA like the NFL. The bullshit that you continue to spew out is making you lose more credibility as the days go by. Just go focus on your imploding ravens. :lol

[Kindergarten Cop]

Not really. What would adding some more shooting an awful defense do to solve any problems? SA is not contending and should be either signing 1 year deals or letting young guys grow.

Replace Forbes with Beli moves what needle for what purpose while hurting cap space next year.

What if the deal has a TO for the second year?

[MannyIsGod]

Spurs were solid defensively last season despite not having the best defensive player in the league.

They were terrible at shooting.

Spurs sign a proven shooter at a reasonable contract.

Who are they getting at that price that is a solid 2 way player?

Exactly. The problem in the playoffs wasn't guard defense. It was the fact that we couldn't hit a fucking 3.

[Hoops Czar]

Spurs were solid defensively last season despite not having the best defensive player in the league.

They were terrible at shooting.

Spurs sign a proven shooter at a reasonable contract.


They could have just kept Forbes for a fraction of the cost.

[DPG21920]

The Spurs are obviously going to try to be competitive. I'm under no illusion that this team is going to be a true contender without Kawhi, but they're obviously not going to mail it in either. Anyone wanting a full youth movement or rebuild before Pop hangs it up - and honestly even after then - is just fooling themselves into thinking that is a possibility.

Beli really doesn’t make SA more competitive and eats into cap space next year. If we find out Year 2 is a team option? Cool. If not? Dumb. Not catastrophic but just stupid.

[MannyIsGod]

I don't think it will be that easy. They definitely anticipated trading him last year and failed. This year, they likely expected him to opt out. Sure, they can still trade him, but it would probably have to be for something larger than they were anticipating, they will have to find a way to add him to the Leonard deal.

I think you're right that they'll likely tie him to a Leonard deal but I also don't think they have to. We'll see how it works out. I have loved Danny, but I do think its a good time to move on from him.

[Chinook]

Luckily the Spurs know Kawhi is an elite talent and intend on keeping him, so they don’t have a video game mindset like you do when it comes to things like this. They don’t view the NBA like the NFL. The bullshit that you continue to spew out is making you lose more credibility as the days go by. Just go focus on your imploding ravens. :lol

Oh, so you're saying we should WANT Kawhi and the Spurs to work on their differences.

Thanks for the report.

[MannyIsGod]

Beli really doesn’t make SA more competitive and eats into cap space next year. If we find out Year 2 is a team option? Cool. If not? Dumb. Not catastrophic but just stupid.

I disagree with your first point. I don't think it makes them true contenders, but it definitely improves the team and helps them get past the first round of the playoffs. That's important to a team who reportedly lost money the past couple of years.

[Mugen]

They could have just kept Forbes for a fraction of the cost.

True except for the fact that Forbes fucking sucks

[MannyIsGod]

They could have just kept Forbes for a fraction of the cost.

:lol

[Chinook]

I think you're right that they'll likely tie him to a Leonard deal but I also don't think they have to. We'll see how it works out. I have loved Danny, but I do think its a good time to move on from him.
I'd've been fine with Green staying before the Beli signing. Walker was my dude during the draft, but he could still use a year of seasoning. But I hate the idea of Danny and Beli being the top SFs on the roster. They can't get rid of Marco yet, so it has to be Green.

[TheGreatYacht]

RC trying to get on my good side :cry

Ferrari is a Warriors killer and the clutchest SOB in the league. This also means Ginose is gone!

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

I'd've been fine with Green staying before the Beli signing. Walker was my dude during the draft, but he could still use a year of seasoning. But I hate the idea of Danny and Beli being the top SFs on the roster. They can't get rid of Marco yet, so it has to be Green.

Depending on what they get back for the snake, Danny could end up as the starting SF and Walker could get a ton of minutes at the 2, especially if Patty is gone too.

[Hoops Czar]

I'd've been fine with Green staying before the Beli signing. Walker was my dude during the draft, but he could still use a year of seasoning. But I hate the idea of Danny and Beli being the top SFs on the roster. They can't get rid of Marco yet, so it has to be Green.
Who is going to be the Spurs starting pg next season? All of this moot if they can't bring in someone who can actually make plays for others. And please don't say Murray.

[DPG21920]

This is my literal nightmare. Lose Kawhi and bring back zero upside aging poor defensive only value is if they happen to get hot shooting type players.

[DPG21920]

Forbes shot better than Beli from 3 :lmao

[Mugen]

This is my literal nightmare. Lose Kawhi and bring back zero upside aging poor defensive only value is if they happen to get hot shooting type players.

Bro...
https://auto.ndtvimg.com/car-images/big/ferrari/812-superfast/ferrari-812-superfast.jpg?v=3

[DPG21920]

I mean, you can Beli like impact for the minimum..Hell White may prove to be already better impact wise than Beli.

[FkLA]

I'm not really getting how Belli is a clear upgrade over Forbes, much less a massive one.

I'm trying to find a silver lining for this signing and I got nothing. Still disgusted.

[Chinook]

Depending on what they get back for the snake, Danny could end up as the starting SF and Walker could get a ton of minutes at the 2, especially if Patty is gone too.

I think there's a good chance that Green does start at the three with Beli as the three off the bench. I just don't like that idea going forward. It really limits what the team can do defensively to not have a bigger wing in the rotation.

[DPG21920]

Spurs were solid defensively last season despite not having the best defensive player in the league.

They were terrible at shooting.

Spurs sign a proven shooter at a reasonable contract.

Who are they getting at that price that is a solid 2 way player?

White? Lonnie? Gerald Green type?

[Chinook]

Who is going to be the Spurs starting pg next season? All of this moot if they can't bring in someone who can actually make plays for others. And please don't say Murray.

Of course I'm going to say Murray, because he is going to start at PG for the team. But don't paint me as a guy who doesn't think SA needs a better play-maker, whether that's next to Murray or instead of him.

[SPURt]

I’m happy he’s back. Wonder if Pop will dust off some of the beautiful game playbook?

[look_at_g_shred]

Hater get in here! Our boy is back :cry

[FkLA]

I’m happy he’s back. Wonder if Pop will dust off some of the beautiful game playbook?

https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/snoop.png

[cutewizard]

:lobt2:

[TrueSpursFan]

https://ih0.redbubble.net/image.24927031.4434/flat,550x550,075,f.u5.jpg

Who’s ready for this!
hopedully Manu doesn’t retire.

[Hoops Czar]

Of course I'm going to say Murray, because he is going to start at PG for the team. But don't paint me as a guy who doesn't think SA needs a better play-maker, whether that's next to Murray or instead of him.

Yeah, and that's why the Spurs should have ussd the full MLE on a playmaker while using the BAE on Beli. That's what makes this a horrendous signing.

[spurraider21]

gerald green signed below market value tbh... not sure what his agnet is doing

[Chinook]

gerald green signed below market value tbh... not sure what his agnet is doing

Hometown, team he liked, chance to win, a huge chunk of minutes opened up. Really not a bad situation.

[spurraider21]

Hometown, team he liked, chance to win, a huge chunk of minutes opened up. Really not a bad situation.
oh no doubt its a nice spot. the pay is just way below market value

[99 Problems]

11,999,999 non-guaranteed? Only kidding, clearly Uncle Dennis wanted Beli here. :claw

[Budkin]

Been AWOL the last couple hours and just saw this! Fuck yeah!

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

gerald green signed below market value tbh... not sure what his agnet is doing

With Ariza gone he'll have the opportunity to start. He's banking on himself, besides next summer there'll be more money available for FAs.

[gambit1990]

better than parker.

[venitian navigator]

as of now, we fixed the back court, if not the team at all. In perspective: point guards : Murray - White - Parker
S. guard Mills - Walker - Gino
Small f. Kiwhi - Green - Belinelli
Power f. Gay - Anderson - Bertans (Metu)
Big man LMA - Pau - Milutinov (Metu)

[sventhedog]

good job. now we are just waiting for LMA to request a trade to the warriors for david west and javale mcgee.

[Slippy]

Great news. He will hit the facial three when needed. Moves without the ball well & knows exactly where to be. Lamarcus will love playing with him .Coming back where he belongs

[daslicer]

I liked Beli during his first stint here but it's still a weird signing. I'm not upset about it but neither am I excited.

[cd021]

An Ayres return incoming?


I mean, are they finally bringing Milutinov over?

Hope so, I mean it's been 3 years.

[venitian navigator]

Marco was incredibly good during regular season, when his offensive skills and movements were the best our system can get, but quite a liability during play offs because of his defensive flaws...the point is that with an aging and bad shooting team, he could be ideal for our regular season record, and for let our veterans (I mean Gino and a rehabbing Kiwhi) rest. Then, in play offs, he'll be used as a situational player...(but let's not forget that he played decently last play offs for Philly...so the least we can say is that he improved his play offs game based on experience).
He also could be a good teacher by example for a guard like Walker.

The main point is that he's replacing Forbes, whose shooting skills didn't translate enough, expecially in play offs games, to balance his awful defense (that was comparable and maybe worse than Marco's one).

[cd021]

as of now, we fixed the back court, if not the team at all. In perspective:
P Guards : Murray - White - Parker
S. guard Mills - Walker - Gino
Small f. Kiwhi - Green - Belinelli
Power f. Gay - Anderson - Bertans (Metu)
Big man LMA - Pau - Milutinov (Metu)


Not sure Metu is on the big roster, though they could use part of the MLE to sign him to a 3 or 4 year deal. I Think they know Manu is likely retiring so Beli is to help replace him. Without Metu but with Bertans and Anderson probably back and Milutinov, they would have 13 roster spots committed- assuming Kawhi, Paul and Forbes are gone.

Curiously a Kawhi trade would might be harder if the other team needs to send out multiple players to make the math work.

[Mr. Body]

Culture.

[cd021]

They could have just kept Forbes for a fraction of the cost.
Forbes just isn't good, tbh.

[venitian navigator]

Not sure Metu is on the big roster, though they could use part of the MLE to sign him to a 3 or 4 year deal. I Think they know Manu is likely retiring so Beli is to help replace him. Without Metu but with Bertans and Anderson probably back and Milutinov, they would have 13 roster spots committed- assuming Kawhi, Paul and Forbes are gone.

Curiously a Kawhi trade would might be harder if the other team needs to send out multiple players to make the math work.

Both Gay and Marco moves looks like Spurs are not trading Kiwhi, at least for now...and Manu was playing good basketball last season, and is still under contract for next.

[DAF86]

The fuck?

[Em-City]

Good post

[gambit1990]

really hated that pop had a problem with beli getting the LOB trophy tattooed.

at least that’s what a report said and why he got it covered up.

[cutewizard]

Should work well with Messina

[tbdog]

They spend 6% when they only have 8.7% to spend

He is a terrible defender, can't play SF, and ruins the young athletes at that position they had coming up

This is real bad

He obviously is a great locker room guy, in a time we desperately need. He will be a number one shooter. Is insurance for Manu and Danny or if any of the young guns are not ready. Can pass. Can shoot. Just had his best shooting percentage season. He would have been a Spur the whole time if we didn't go after LMA.

[Raven]

Raven (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=35860)

Worst morning of the year...

[Raven]

He obviously is a great locker room guy, in a time we desperately need. He will be a number one shooter. Is insurance for Manu and Danny or if any of the young guns are not ready. Can pass. Can shoot. Just had his best shooting percentage season. He would have been a Spur the whole time if we didn't go after LMA.

that's news to me, given how many times his national team imploded with him, but i guess he has grown up a bit.

[spursistan]

Not thrilled at all with this signing. I would have been ok with it if Belli could play a lick of D.

It just seems like the Spurs will never seriously commit to a youth movement until Pop and the likes of Messina are gone..

[TrainOfThought5]

Worst morning of the year...

Kawhis not gone yet.

[spurschamps99030507]

after belinelli left the team the spurs ran out of a three-point shooter


he was a key player when he was on the team, he's a great shooter and the team needed this

in this era of three-point shooting, he's a great signing

Let's analyze the game, his role was not defensive specialist, he was a specialist to put three-point shots and incredible shots

[KimmyGib]

Boris Diaw will be returning to the Spurs too, motivated for a resurgence. You heard it here first. :bobo

[kobyz]

forbes is better!

[Raven]

after belinelli left the team the spurs ran out of a three-point shooter


he was a key player when he was on the team, he's a great shooter and the team needed this

in this era of three-point shooting, he's a great signing

Let's analyze the game, his role was not defensive specialist, he was a specialist to put three-point shots and incredible shots

stop it

[spurschamps99030507]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYy67g__WPU&frags=pl%2Cwn

[cutewizard]

after belinelli left the team the spurs ran out of a three-point shooter


he was a key player when he was on the team, he's a great shooter and the team needed this

in this era of three-point shooting, he's a great signing

Let's analyze the game, his role was not defensive specialist, he was a specialist to put three-point shots and incredible shots

:bobo

[spurschamps99030507]

stop this


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOrsR0DnQr0&frags=pl%2Cwn

[8FOR!3]

I'm a fan of this signing. Wanted us to pick him up for the shooting last year.

[cutewizard]

I'm a fan of this signing. Wanted us to pick him up for the shooting last year.

Agree

[cd021]

Both Gay and Marco moves looks like Spurs are not trading Kiwhi, at least for now...and Manu was playing good basketball last season, and is still under contract for next.

I was thinking that too, but man, the locker room issues that would be presented by bringing Kawhi back seem to be to the exact thing that the Spurs would like to avoid.

It might just to keep a baseline of competency by bringing back Gay and re-signing Belli with the goal of being a playoff team with or without Kawhi.

[cutewizard]

People might have forgotten this already:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foAUa2Afszg

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2HHMAhlUpI

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUrtNxECWhY

[cutewizard]

Lamarcus, Gay, Gasol, Bellineli, Murray, Walker, White, Anderson, Bertans

Not bad huh.........................

[AFBlue]

Good Manu retirement insurance. He does seem redundant to White, but I guess you can't have enough shooters in today's small ball NBA.

[sasaint]

Culture.

Very definitely a big part of this signing, following the tumultuous last 12 months.

[cutewizard]

Good Manu retirement insurance. He does seem redundant to White, but I guess you can't have enough shooters in today's small ball NBA.


:bobo

[tholdren]

why are some of you complaining ::lol spurs are going to suck ass without Leonard anyway and Manu is likely retiring so this is a solid signing tbh. did anyone think we were signing Lebron with the mle or what?

3rd seed. You need to stop posting

[ace3g]

1013401241471373313

[weebo]

Ginobili retiring?

[Jdspur20]

I don’t mind this deal at all.

[Jdspur20]

Better than the fatty mills deal...

[From Downtown]

I guess Forbes is gone, then it's either Manu retiring or Patty getting traded with Kawhi

[SpursDynasty85]

It would make the signing make more sense if Ginobili was retiring or that they are trading Green and letting Parker go.

[benefactor]

GRANDE BELI!!!!

[Marcus Bryant]

Not a bad contract, unexpected. Needed to improve perimeter shooting.

[DPG21920]

Not a bad contract, unexpected. Needed to improve perimeter shooting.

Interesting considering Forbes had a better 3PT% last year than Beli..

[-21-]

I'm okay with this. The contract is reasonable. Just wondering if this had any indication about Manu's decision or PATFO's future moves.

[tholdren]

Interesting considering Forbes had a better 3PT% last year than Beli..

Cant reason with spurstalk

[jjktkk]

Length, athleticism, not an atrocious defender...is that too much to ask for?Yes. First off, the Spurs desperately need more shooting. Second, the type of player you're clamoring for is probably going to cost more than the deal Belinelli got.

[barbacoataco]

I like this signing. Spurs needed a shooter and he fits the bill. If Ginobili comes back they are overloaded at SG with Green, Lonnie Walker, and Marco. But if Leonard is gone there are minutes for everyone. And maybe they know Manu's gone.

The right trade with Leonard could make this team still competitive. I don't think they want to rebuild. Hopefully Walker winds up being equal to a lottery pick. The real question is whether they believe Dejounte Murray is the PG of the future.

I also wonder if signing Belinelli is an indication that the Spurs have something up their sleeve. If they are in "win now" mode they might have other plans.

[bigfan]

A good move for the money.

[jjktkk]

I mean why not just use the full MLE to make a run at someone notable? Bring back Forbes for a fraction of the price if you want a "shooter" that will get lit up on the other end. This accomplishes absolutely nothing.

Marco is a proven shooter. Forbes is lucky to even be in the league.

[DPG21920]

Marco is a proven shooter. Forbes is lucky to even be in the league.

Again, I don’t know if people just don’t do any basic research or get so blinded by bias, but Forbes shot better from 3 than Beli last year.

[jjktkk]

It’s a dumb signing. Has nothing to do with value. SA does not need more terribly bad defensive vets. Beli at that price makes sense for a lot of teams. Not SA. Who are you going to get for that price that can space the floor and defend? The Spurs need reliable scoring of the bench. Being able to defend would be great too, but that defender cannot be a liability offensively.