White Millennials Are Leaving the Democratic Party

[Spurtacular]

OK, great.

It is. And now that you've capitulated, I'll go on the record as saying that I simply asked two separate questions without any ill intent. You could've asked if this was the case from the very start; but that was just not going to be good for your ploy, sociopath.

[Pavlov]

It is. And now that you've capitulated, I'll go on the record as saying that I simply asked two separate questions without any ill intent. You could've asked if this was the case from the very start; but that was just not going to be good for your ploy, sociopath.I disagree with your characterizations, but fine. You think whatever you want to think.

[Spurtacular]

I disagree with your characterizations, but fine. You think whatever you want to think.

:lmao Sociopath chump disagrees with what my intent was.
:lmao 'Solid' rebuttal / supporting details. Par.

[Pavlov]

:lmao Sociopath chump disagrees with what my intent was.
:lmao 'Solid' rebuttal / supporting details. Par.Great. Agree to disagree.

[Spurtacular]

Great. Agree to disagree.

You should've said that before your ass got handed to you.

[Pavlov]

You should've said that before your ass got handed to you.You can think you handed whatever to whomever. That's the great thing about the internet.

[Spurtacular]

You can think you handed whatever to whomever. That's the great thing about the internet.

You've ran out of steam. But you'll get some sleep and be a recharged sociopath. That's the thing about the internet for you.

[Spurtacular]

You can think you handed whatever to whomever. That's the great thing about the internet.

For now, on this platform. On other platforms handing you your ass could be considered "hate speech" and/or "bullying". :lmao

[Reck]

You should've said that before your ass got handed to you.

*Self proclaimed victory DING*

[Spurtacular]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-3Y3NDCT-Y

[Pavlov]

You've ran out of steam. But you'll get some sleep and be a recharged sociopath. That's the thing about the internet for you.And you'll do what? Avoid questions and use buzzwords.

Great.


For now, on this platform. On other platforms handing you your ass could be considered "hate speech" and/or "bullying". :lmaoYou can fantasize other people think whatever you want as well.

[RandomGuy]

You're obviously aware that no one really thinks that is acceptable.

You gonna post a smiley + derision about that?


You obviously weren't watching that news cycle.

I watch and listen to a fair amount of news.

The acceptability of murder of the president is negligible by any measurement. Your characterization that it was "acceptable" is, therefore, essentially a lie.

You may delude yourself that this lie is a fact, but it makes a testable claim, that you have offered no proof for.

What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

[Spurtacular]

I watch and listen to a fair amount of news.

The acceptability of murder of the president is negligible by any measurement. Your characterization that it was "acceptable" is, therefore, essentially a lie.

You may delude yourself that this lie is a fact, but it makes a testable claim, that you have offered no proof for.

What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

Media outlets were justifying the shameless production. Viacom refused to pull funding even. Come to terms, dude.

[RandomGuy]

Media outlets were justifying the shameless production. Viacom refused to pull funding even. Come to terms, dude.

"they" were saying. Wow that's really convincing, damn you should go to law school and try that in court.

What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

You got suckered by propaganda, designed to deceive people just like you.

When it comes to bullshit, you are immune-compromised.

[RandomGuy]

White Millennials Are Leaving the Democratic Party as 'Walk Away' Campaign Picks Up Steam
https://pjmedia.com/election/white-millennials-are-leaving-the-democratic-party-as-walk-away-campaign-picks-up-steam/

#walkaway

[pity for someone's hate blinding their ability to think critically]

[SnakeBoy]

Liberal Democrats, Please Join Us in MAGA, Please Just #walkaway

USA – The overhead highway sign read, ‘Prevent A Tragedy, Buckle Up’, which makes for succinct, and apparently sound advice for you and your family as you motor along at a mile a minute, or most times faster; but, these same well-conceived words of caution could also be an immediate warning of greater importance for the sake of our family of fellow Americans.

Prevent a tragedy, keep the House of Representatives with a Republican majority, and the same goes for the US Senate.

The words of our Declaration of Independence become, once again, extremely relevant in our nation’s history:

“But, when a long train of abuses and usurpations… it is [our] Right, it is [our] duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future Security.”

Know in your heart, that President Donald J. Trump is in the process of throwing off the old and providing new guards for our future security, and he needs the help of every American citizen, and not only the conservative thinkers.

Through all the divisiveness and potential chaos, for us comes a very simple choice: either we stand unconditionally with PDJT [president Donald J Trump] or apathetically watch from the sidelines, where the highway sign recommended buckling-up for a very dark and ugly period as our Republic slowly dies. There are no longer any middle of the road or moderate thinkers allowed. Are you a freedom-loving American, one who has sworn allegiance to the Constitution, or are you the enemy?

“Know thyself, know thy enemy, a thousand battles, a thousand victories.” – Sun Tzu

Andrew Breitbart gave us his single-worded-battle cry of #WAR! Andrew was warning us not to take their extremism too lightly, and to know that the Democratic radical left is our sworn enemy. That we must acknowledge that we are now in, like it or not, a life or death battle for the sovereignty of America.

I have always been of the opinion that there is much more to the totalitarian Democrat’s open borders agenda than adding to their vote counts. That absent our borders, and with no Immigration Customs Enforcement (ICE) it would give them a very powerful hand in changing the American culture, changing our very way of life, with a massive invasion of indigent people from third world countries. Apparently NYU Professor, Michael Rectenwald not only agrees, but encapsulated it perfectly when he opined:

“We’re undergoing a Maoist-like Cultural Revolution — with the power of the corporate mass media, corporate social media, the academy, most of corporate America, the deep state, the shadow government, and most of the legal apparatuses behind it. Anti-western, anti-individual, anti-Christian, anti-liberty monsters are ravaging our cultural legacies as well as our contemporary arts and letters. Our entire culture is under siege and undergoing an utter and relentless social justice dismantling. Leftist totalitarianism is running amock. We’re on the precipice of completely losing our culture, the benefits of western civilization, and the entire legacy of western civilizational history. A major resurgence and counter attack is necessary and soon.”

President Donald Trump – is our resurgence leader! Our counter attack – is our vote on November 6th, 2018!
Liberal Democrats please join with us, we would love to make America great again together.

But, for our counter-attack to have the greatest chance of success, we will need all hands on deck. And, in that count of jointly-raised-hands, we will need to see a large number of our fellow Democrat Americans with us, many who are not disciples of the radical left ideology. In fact few of Democrats, Republican or Independents want open, porous borders, allowing criminals or MS-13 gang members to enter our country at will. Every freedom-loving American is well aware of the legal system in place for people to escape the atrocities of their homeland, which is done by seeking asylum at any Immigration Customs Office, and not by crossing our border illegally.

President Trump came on the Rush Limbaugh’s 30th anniversary radio show and shared with him the most honest in-your-face statement for a President to admit:

“You have a lot of bad people in Washington. You knew that a long time ago. Frankly, before I knew it. I had no idea how evil some of them are, but you have a lot of great people too.”

No matter the level of a person’s intelligence, with or without a religious conviction, that person inherently understands good from evil.

People are clannish by nature. We go out of our way to be with other like-mined thinkers, excluding others from our group with opposing opinions. It is safer that way. Knowing this, it is easier to understand why most liberals do not know or associate with one single conservative person, and therefore find it easy to shun their foolish opposing opinions.
There are many good American Democrats who fully understand that President Donald Trump in a phenomenon for good.

If they have been covertly honest with themselves, they also know that PDJT loves America and MAGA [make America great again] is a good thing for everyone. Many inherently know this for a fact and are caught in that quagmire we used to refer to as a Catch 22, ‘damned if you do…’ But, with their dilemma comes a level of fear, not unlike walking alone at night, to the realization that someone is following them. Do you panic or make a plan for safety’s sake. What will my liberal friends and neighbors say should they decide to first inquire and then possibly get on board the Trump Train?

A number of you have posted the uneasiness of having any political conversation with democratic friends or relatives, and silence has been the safest policy, up until now, that is. We are at war, and the luxury of silence is no longer a viable option. We also know that many Democrats are not necessarily our enemy. You might begin by – gingerly – asking them if they are aware of the #walkaway movement, which was accidentally set in motion by a now former liberal who had had enough of the hate.

To date, there are approximately five million people who have logged on and/or seen his video (top of page). These are lifelong Democrats who still consider themselves to be freedom-loving Americans and simply could not take it any longer. They have quietly longed for this very moment to have a place to come where someone, like them, would make it safe for them to come out and speak their mind.

It can’t hurt. For safety’s sake, ask them if they would at least think about it. See #walkaway:

Prevent a tragedy. Prevent a war.

About the Author

Fredy ‘Brooklyn’ Lowe served proudly in both the Unites States Marine Corps and the New York City Police Department. He and his wife of 49 years, Patricia are even prouder (if that’s possible) of their two grown children and six grandchildren. Out of respect for his country and never taking for granted our freedoms and liberties.

Read more: https://www.ammoland.com/2018/08/liberal-democrats-please-join-us-in-maga-please-just-walkaway/#ixzz5Nd3i0eaI
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[Spurtacular]

"they" were saying. Wow that's really convincing, damn you should go to law school and try that in court.

What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

You got suckered by propaganda, designed to deceive people just like you.

When it comes to bullshit, you are immune-compromised.

:lmao Trying to "convince" you of a news cycle you obviously didn't pay attention to yourself.

Don't flatter yourself, dude. I told you what's what. I get that you'll still need your own truth at the end of the day. You're not sociopath chump's lil buddy for nothing.

[FrostKing]

My (jewish) buddy is on pace to vote Republican for the first time in his life. He was very Anti-Trump during the election and even after the first year. He got really bitter over the past 6 months.

Main complaints I think would be
- SJWs attacking comedy
- the lefts support of illegals
- anti White

Americans are very patriotic so I think it rubs many people the wrong way how some openly root against America just because their candidate is not currently in office

[Pavlov]

lol anecdote

[RandomGuy]

[ wall of text delusional wish for #walkway to be a real thing]

[bemused pity at poster doubling down on failed OP]

[RandomGuy]

My (jewish) buddy is on pace to vote Republican for the first time in his life. He was very Anti-Trump during the election and even after the first year. He got really bitter over the past 6 months.

Main complaints I think would be
- SJWs attacking comedy
- the lefts support of illegals
- anti White

Americans are very patriotic so I think it rubs many people the wrong way how some openly root against America just because their candidate is not currently in office

I think right-wing propaganda has made some decent inroads with their strawman SJW attacks. It is effective, because it contains a tiny grain of truth in that there really are nutters on the left that are every bit as delusional as people who watch Fox "news" and vocal about it.

Eventually, however, the constant cry of "wolf" will get old, and people do see it for what it is.
.

[Pavlov]

Pretty much the go-to strategy of Republicans -- accuse the Democrats of something that Republicans are doing or is happening in their party.

[RandomGuy]

lol anecdote

Confirmation bias write large. We remember the hits... forget the misses.

[RandomGuy]

Pretty much the go-to strategy of Republicans -- accuse the Democrats of something that Republicans are doing or is happening in their party.

Agreed.

What is ironic, is that this current president is EVERYTHING they accused Obama of being.

Golfy
vacation
corrupt
lazy
divisive

etc
etc
etc

I think the GOP is going to have a credibility gap that they are never going to recover from in the minds of independents.

[SnakeBoy]

I think the GOP is going to have a credibility gap that they are never going to recover from in the minds of independents.

Never ever? So one party Democratic rule forever and ever and ever?

[RandomGuy]

Never ever? So one party Democratic rule forever and ever and ever?

Conservatives, by their nature, resist change. If something in the self-identity is self-destructive, that implies that any real change will be a long time coming.

Perhaps I will live to see a reborn Trump party, but I doubt it.

California's GOP has not recovered from their shitting all over Hispanics.

[Spurminator]

My (jewish) buddy is on pace to vote Republican for the first time in his life. He was very Anti-Trump during the election and even after the first year. He got really bitter over the past 6 months.

Main complaints I think would be
- SJWs attacking comedy
- the lefts support of illegals
- anti White

Americans are very patriotic so I think it rubs many people the wrong way how some openly root against America just because their candidate is not currently in office

:lol Yeah, this sounds like bullshit. The sort of insecure persecution complex that leads one to believe Democrats are "anti white" doesn't just happen overnight.

[RandomGuy]

Never ever? So one party Democratic rule forever and ever and ever?

And I should say, as it tends to bear repeating:

One party rule is bad, no matter which party is doing it.

I would hope that something else would emerge, but the US is ill-set up for more than two parties.

[RandomGuy]

:lol Yeah, this sounds like bullshit. The sort of insecure persecution complex that leads one to believe Democrats are "anti white" doesn't just happen overnight.

It is a testimony to the effectiveness of right-wing propaganda networks (in the interconnected sense of the word).

[FrostKing]

I think right-wing propaganda has made some decent inroads with their strawman SJW attacks. It is effective, because it contains a tiny grain of truth in that there really are nutters on the left that are every bit as delusional as people who watch Fox "news" and vocal about it.

Eventually, however, the constant cry of "wolf" will get old, and people do see it for what it is.
.
I should have mentioned he lives in California so experiences radical Left more than radical right. In comparison to say my co worker from Georgia who had to deal with the radical right over there.


:lol Yeah, this sounds like bullshit. The sort of insecure persecution complex that leads one to believe Democrats are "anti white" doesn't just happen overnight.
I should have mentioned his father is a vocal "if you voted for Trump, you are a racist" type. Overall I think he is turned off by the increasing cries of racism (coming from the left).

Do i think anti-White is a similar cry (from the right)? Ya. But ultimately my friend is White. Logically he will put one issue (effecting Whites) above the other issue (effecting people of color).

Do you disagree that Democrats are anti-White? Meaning they are fighting the good fight and it just so happens to usually benefit non-Whites? Look I totally understand people of color that support such initiatives - makes total logic sense for themselves and loved ones. What I can't wrap my head around is Whites (without family members of color) that support it. They would be categorized as misinformed or ideological radicals.

To seek to better yourself/family is normal. To seek to weaken yourself/family only exists in Western Whites.

[FrostKing]

It is a testimony to the effectiveness of right-wing propaganda networks (in the interconnected sense of the word).
The Democrat politicians make the statements, is it propaganda to air it? When Republican politicians say "Hitler was right" and MSM airs it, i don't consider that propaganda

Republicans are anti-POC
Democrats are anti-White

Simple stuff. My skin and my family is White so I choose accordingly.

I estimate on our death beds, the White population in America will fall to 30%. So why dispute when you see long term that your party will win.

[Spurminator]

Do you disagree that Democrats are anti-White? Meaning they are fighting the good fight and it just so happens to usually benefit non-Whites?

I disagree that policies benefitting minorities are, by definition, anti-white. That's like saying disability income is harmful to people who aren't disabled.


Look I totally understand people of color that support such initiatives - makes total logic sense for themselves and loved ones. What I can't wrap my head around is Whites (without family members of color) that support it. They would be categorized as misinformed or ideological radicals.

That's silly. Not everyone's worldview is defined by what specifically benefits themselves. Conservatives and Liberals alike are often motivated by issues that don't effect them personally. It's called empathy.


To seek to better yourself/family is normal. To seek to weaken yourself/family only exists in Western Whites.

This assumes that anything benefitting minorities necessarily weakens whites. I don't see how public assistance, opposition to voter ID laws, prison reform, questioning police brutality against minorities, etc. are platforms that weaken whites.

It sounds like you're specifically focused on some conservative boogeyman version of quota-style affirmative action. As far as I can tell, that hasn't been something Democrats have been pushing hard for in decades, so not sure why your friend is just now concerned about it.

[RandomGuy]

I should have mentioned he lives in California so experiences radical Left more than radical right. In comparison to say my co worker from Georgia who had to deal with the radical right over there.


I should have mentioned his father is a vocal "if you voted for Trump, you are a racist" type. Overall I think he is turned off by the increasing cries of racism (coming from the left).

Do i think anti-White is a similar cry (from the right)? Ya. But ultimately my friend is White. Logically he will put one issue (effecting Whites) above the other issue (effecting people of color).

Do you disagree that Democrats are anti-White? Meaning they are fighting the good fight and it just so happens to usually benefit non-Whites? Look I totally understand people of color that support such initiatives - makes total logic sense for themselves and loved ones. What I can't wrap my head around is Whites (without family members of color) that support it. They would be categorized as misinformed or ideological radicals.

To seek to better yourself/family is normal. To seek to weaken yourself/family only exists in Western Whites.

Depends on how one defines "anti-white". Generally no, Democrats are as a whole not "anti-white" in the sense that I have of that term.

Extra Stout returns?

[RandomGuy]

The Democrat politicians make the statements, is it propaganda to air it? When Republican politicians say "Hitler was right" and MSM airs it, i don't consider that propaganda

Republicans are anti-POC
Democrats are anti-White

Simple stuff. My skin and my family is White so I choose accordingly.

I estimate on our death beds, the White population in America will fall to 30%. So why dispute when you see long term that your party will win.

SJW schtick is where the right-wing takes the most radical parts of the left and hold that up as typical of the entire left.

It is either presented as a strawman "liberals believe" fallacy,

or

A "look at this stupid liberal saying this dumb thing, all liberal policies must be just as dumb" poisoning the well fallacy.


Both forms of presentation of "liberal" beliefs are inherently dishonest, because they ignore the substance of left arguments.

The right is really good at framing conversation, and do so in ways that leverage these failures in reasoning.

[Pavlov]

The Democrat politicians make the statements, is it propaganda to air it? When Republican politicians say "Hitler was right" and MSM airs it, i don't consider that propaganda

Republicans are anti-POC
Democrats are anti-White

Simple stuff. My skin and my family is White so I choose accordingly.

I estimate on our death beds, the White population in America will fall to 30%. So why dispute when you see long term that your party will win.Poor whitey.

[FrostKing]

Poor whitey.
Haha I wasn't born here and I have one foot out the door.

My battle is keeping your kind out of my fatherland. If we never let you in then we won't have to "just deal with it" later

[FrostKing]

I disagree that policies benefitting minorities are, by definition, anti-white. That's like saying disability income is harmful to people who aren't disabled.



That's silly. Not everyone's worldview is defined by what specifically benefits themselves. Conservatives and Liberals alike are often motivated by issues that don't effect them personally. It's called empathy.



This assumes that anything benefitting minorities necessarily weakens whites. I don't see how public assistance, opposition to voter ID laws, prison reform, questioning police brutality against minorities, etc. are platforms that weaken whites.

It sounds like you're specifically focused on some conservative boogeyman version of quota-style affirmative action. As far as I can tell, that hasn't been something Democrats have been pushing hard for in decades, so not sure why your friend is just now concerned about it.
Good post Sperminator. I like you

I think people get too caught up in good guys/bad guys when it really just comes down to how will you benefit me and my family. As the White population continues dropping - focus on (benefits) Whites will as well.

My friend always said the right things up until even 6 months ago. "We are all equal" and "they are human too". I think recently he has started to focus on having a family. No more just free love and fun.

[Pavlov]

Haha I wasn't born here and I have one foot out the door.Promises, promises.

[RandomGuy]

White Millennials Are Leaving the Democratic Party as 'Walk Away' Campaign Picks Up Steam
https://pjmedia.com/election/white-millennials-are-leaving-the-democratic-party-as-walk-away-campaign-picks-up-steam/

#walkaway

Looks like the only one doing a walkaway is you from defending your OP. :lmao

[Reck]

One of Snakeboi's finest work.

Triggering det libs!

[RandomGuy]

Still nothing on this.

It's almost as if it were... fake.

[FrostKing]

Still nothing on this.

It's almost as if it were... fake.
Waiting on CNN to spoon feed it to you?

[Reck]

Waiting on CNN to spoon feed it to you?

He's not the one who needs to explain himself. Snakeboi has hit and run his own thread. :lol

[RandomGuy]

Waiting on CNN to spoon feed it to you?

Still waiting for actual evidence of any trend beyond scattered anecdotes and stock photos. :rollin

[RandomGuy]

White Millennials Are Leaving the Democratic Party as 'Walk Away' Campaign Picks Up Steam
https://pjmedia.com/election/white-millennials-are-leaving-the-democratic-party-as-walk-away-campaign-picks-up-steam/

#walkaway

Still no follow up? :rollin

[RandomGuy]

White Millennials Are Leaving the Democratic Party as 'Walk Away' Campaign Picks Up Steam
https://pjmedia.com/election/white-millennials-are-leaving-the-democratic-party-as-walk-away-campaign-picks-up-steam/

#walkaway


Why I’m Leaving the Republican Party
The Kavanaugh confirmation fight revealed the GOP to be the party of situational ethics and moral relativism in the name of winning at all costs.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/tom-nichols-why-im-leaving-republican-party/572419/

Unlike the stock photos with faked quotes, this is a real person.

[Nathan89]

There is open acceptance of racism against whites on the left. Journalists are routinely called out for it. One must ask why they feel so safe being racist in public. So yes it would make logical sense to not be a leftist tbh.

[Pavlov]

There is open acceptance of racism against whites on the left. Journalists are routinely called out for it. One must ask why they feel so safe being racist in public. So yes it would make logical sense to not be a leftist tbh.lol white people

[RandomGuy]

There is open acceptance of racism against whites on the left.

That is what the right-wing propagandists want you to believe and go out and claim in places like this.

They want you to go for the whataboutism, because it keeps you outraged, scared, and not really thinking.

So, let's try thinking about that claim.

What are underlying assumptions? i.e. what has to be true for this claim to be true?

[TSA]

Why I’m Leaving the Republican Party
The Kavanaugh confirmation fight revealed the GOP to be the party of situational ethics and moral relativism in the name of winning at all costs.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/tom-nichols-why-im-leaving-republican-party/572419/

Unlike the stock photos with faked quotes, this is a real person.

Farewell Tom who wasn’t a white millennial, got to make room for all the women who saw the smear attempt for what is was.

1049251831258513410

[Pavlov]

Farewell Tom who wasn’t a white millennial, got to make room for all the women who saw the smear attempt for what is was.

1049251831258513410lol gentry Breitbart writer

[RandomGuy]

Farewell Tom who wasn’t a white millennial, got to make room for all the women who saw the smear attempt for what is was.

1049251831258513410

Shocking. Republican columnist writes something criticizing Democrats.

Lockdown the website, we got a winner here.

The only thing is who is on the Board of Directors?

(yawn)

[Nathan89]

That is what the right-wing propagandists want you to believe and go out and claim in places like this.

They want you to go for the whataboutism, because it keeps you outraged, scared, and not really thinking.

So, let's try thinking about that claim.

What are underlying assumptions? i.e. what has to be true for this claim to be true?

Yeah, center-left journalist Tim Pool aka right-wing propagandist talks about this regularly because "whataboutism". It's the talking points not the blatant racism I'm see regularly from the left that makes me discuss it. Don't be ridiculous. This isn't talking points. It's becoming very clear.

Journalists wouldn't be openly racist if it weren't true. New York Times offering cushy jobs to open racists probably wouldn't happen either tbh.

This open racism is just what is seen. Logically it makes sense that it goes much deeper than that. Some morons are open about it.

[Winehole23]

the emotional connection thing.

also, Dems are afraid to offer anything people actually want (cheaper education, job training, and health care come to mind) for fear of being called socialistic.


1049056048219181056

[RandomGuy]

There is open acceptance of racism against whites on the left.


That is what the right-wing propagandists want you to believe and go out and claim in places like this.

They want you to go for the whataboutism, because it keeps you outraged, scared, and not really thinking.

So, let's try thinking about that claim.

What are underlying assumptions? i.e. what has to be true for this claim to be true?


Yeah, center-left journalist Tim Pool aka right-wing propagandist talks about this regularly because "whataboutism". It's the talking points not the blatant racism I'm see regularly from the left that makes me discuss it. Don't be ridiculous. This isn't talking points. It's becoming very clear.

Journalists wouldn't be openly racist if it weren't true. New York Times offering cushy jobs to open racists probably wouldn't happen either tbh.

This open racism is just what is seen. Logically it makes sense that it goes much deeper than that. Some morons are open about it.

So that was simply a restatement of your original assertion, not really getting at the underlying logic, or what must be true for your assertion to be true and valid.

Example:
Socrates is a man
All men are mortal

Therefore Socrates is mortal.

So again, see if you can find the underlying premises of your statement.


There is open acceptance of racism against whites on the left.

A good example would be to say clearly what "open acceptance" is, and who "the left" is, or might be defined, or even what you mean by "racism".

Do you understand what I am asking for?

Define your terms, and see if you can deconstruct your statement.

[RandomGuy]

the emotional connection thing.

also, Dems are afraid to offer anything people actually want (cheaper education, job training, and health care come to mind) for fear of being called socialistic.

1049056048219181056

I think that will change. The right will call us socialists no matter what.

Why parse or try to appeal at this point? Better to go for actual ideas.

It's not like the Republican party has any to compete with at this point. "cut taxes for the wealthy, and say anything insulting you can about liberals" seems to be the sum total of what passes for conservatism these days.

[boutons_deux]

A “lifelong Republican” just blindsided his own party with an unprecedented midterm election demand

“NeverTrump” neocon and unashamed Iraq War apologist (https://www.commentarymagazine.com/foreign-policy/middle-east/iraq/no-need-to-repent-for-support-of-iraq-war/)Max Boot joined his fellow conservative “Morning” Joe Scarborough to discuss the fallout of the weekend’s events and President Trump’s increasing authoritarianism —

and he didn’t beat around the bush with his solution for a modern-day Republican Party consumed wholly by Trumpism: burn it to the ground:

“I think, essentially, the Republican Party, as currently constituted,

needs to be razed to the ground,

it needs to be destroyed —

and maybe, maybe, maybe out of the ashes

we can build up a more reasonable center-right party which is something this country needs.”

Boot was on the show to promote

his new book, “The Corrosion of Conservatism: Why I Left the Right,”

and highlighted how the Trumpian embrace of full-on white nationalism and xenophobia as one of the primary reasons he, an immigrant, was alienated from the party in the first place:

“I came here at age 6, I learned to speak English — I think I speak it reasonably well.

I try to fit in, blend in — I thought I achieved that.

I thought of myself as an ordinary American, not as a hyphenated American.

Donald Trump is making me to think in those terms, he’s making me think there’s something less American than me.

I wasn’t born here, I’m Jewish.

I’m not the kind of American that Donald Trump celebrates.

It’s a tragedy for me and heartbreaking for me.”


https://washingtonpress.com/2018/10/08/a-lifelong-republican-just-blindsided-his-own-party-with-an-unprecedented-midterm-election-demand/

[SnakeBoy]

also, Dems are afraid to offer anything people actually want (cheaper education, job training, and health care come to mind) for fear of being called socialistic.


That's the sad part. Even I have said numerous times that I'm not philosophically opposed to universal healthcare, just show me a plan first. A real plan, what it will provide, how it will work, and how it will be funded. Even Bernie won't actually do that. Just, it's going to be great and I'll tell you the details if you elect me.

[Nathan89]

Now I need to define racism:lmao

[Pavlov]

Now I need to define racism:lmaoNow you will run from the discussion.:lmao

[RandomGuy]

That's the sad part. Even I have said numerous times that I'm not philosophically opposed to universal healthcare, just show me a plan first. A real plan, what it will provide, how it will work, and how it will be funded. Even Bernie won't actually do that. Just, it's going to be great and I'll tell you the details if you elect me.

Universal health insurance, closely modeled on that of Canada.

It doesn't have to be overly complicated. Everybody gets taxed at payroll at the same rate, with 100% of the risk pooled, and everybody gets insurance.

It will make coding and billing vastly simpler, and suck the profit margins out of the process on the insurance side, while driving down the administrative duplications at the provider side.

Require any health care provider to accept the insurance, so the portability is guaranteed.

Employers will not have to worry about negotiating with health insurers for a tiny pool of six people, and we will get a vastly better idea as to the real costs of health care.

[boutons_deux]

"Everybody gets taxed at payroll at the same rate,"

SS and medicare-for-all contributions should be applied to ALL income, earned and unearned.

[SnakeBoy]

Universal health insurance, closely modeled on that of Canada.

It doesn't have to be overly complicated. Everybody gets taxed at payroll at the same rate, with 100% of the risk pooled, and everybody gets insurance.

It will make coding and billing vastly simpler, and suck the profit margins out of the process on the insurance side, while driving down the administrative duplications at the provider side.

Require any health care provider to accept the insurance, so the portability is guaranteed.

Employers will not have to worry about negotiating with health insurers for a tiny pool of six people, and we will get a vastly better idea as to the real costs of health care.

It's that easy and yet not a single Democrat politician will say it.

[RandomGuy]

There is open acceptance of racism against whites on the left.


That is what the right-wing propagandists want you to believe and go out and claim in places like this.

They want you to go for the whataboutism, because it keeps you outraged, scared, and not really thinking.

So, let's try thinking about that claim.

What are underlying assumptions? i.e. what has to be true for this claim to be true?


Yeah, center-left journalist Tim Pool aka right-wing propagandist talks about this regularly because "whataboutism". It's the talking points not the blatant racism I'm see regularly from the left that makes me discuss it. Don't be ridiculous. This isn't talking points. It's becoming very clear.

Journalists wouldn't be openly racist if it weren't true. New York Times offering cushy jobs to open racists probably wouldn't happen either tbh.

This open racism is just what is seen. Logically it makes sense that it goes much deeper than that. Some morons are open about it.


So that was simply a restatement of your original assertion, not really getting at the underlying logic, or what must be true for your assertion to be true and valid.

Example:
Socrates is a man
All men are mortal

Therefore Socrates is mortal.

So again, see if you can find the underlying premises of your statement.


There is open acceptance of racism against whites on the left.

A good example would be to say clearly what "open acceptance" is, and who "the left" is, or might be defined, or even what you mean by "racism".

Do you understand what I am asking for?

Define your terms, and see if you can deconstruct your statement.


Now I need to define racism:lmao

I said it was merely an example. I would note that the same word can mean slightly different things to people. You don't need to define the term, but if you can't reasonably say what you mean, then it becomes clear that your position is not one that any reasonable person should accept.

If you don't understand what I am asking for, simply say so, and I will try to help you to get to your underlying assumptions. My underlying assumption is that you value the truth, and want your beliefs to be rational.

Do you understand what your underlying assumptions are, or would you like my help?

[RandomGuy]

It's that easy and yet not a single Democrat politician will say it.

You mean other than Ocasio-Cortez?

[rmt]

Please tell me how this plan will get medical personnel to accept less pay while carrying burdensome college/med school loans and at the same time reduce the lawsuits. That's the medical, educational and legal systems - good luck with tackling all that. Not to mention the drug industry and the drop in people who would want to go into the medical field - so much studying for so little pay? A pharmacist, physical therapist and audiologist all currently need doctorates. Primary care docs - at least 11? years - more for specialties and surgery.

[spurraider21]

Please tell me how this plan will get medical personnel to accept less pay while carrying burdensome college/med school loans and at the same time reduce the lawsuits. That's the medical, educational and legal systems - good luck with tackling all that. Not to mention the drug industry and the drop in people who would want to go into the medical field - so much studying for so little pay? A pharmacist, physical therapist and audiologist all currently need doctorates. Primary care docs - at least 11? years - more for specialties and surgery.
grad schools basically have a blank check to charge whatever they want because they know every student is going to qualify for a loan. it's a bullshit predatory system. grad schools SHOULD be less expensive. as for cost of health services, doctor pay isn't the big issue, its the profit motive of the industry.

another problem is how litigious the US is. hospitals pay through the roof for malpractice insurance, and that cost isn't absorbed. it's passed on to consumers

[Winehole23]

That's the sad part. Even I have said numerous times that I'm not philosophically opposed to universal healthcare, just show me a plan first. A real plan, what it will provide, how it will work, and how it will be funded. Even Bernie won't actually do that. Just, it's going to be great and I'll tell you the details if you elect me.The main drawback of overpromising in detail is disappointing your supporters after you get elected. The main drawback of underpromising and hedging your bets in technocratic vagueness is not getting elected at all.

Seems a risk worth taking, if you have an idea you really believe in. The Dems have no such ideas.

[ElNono]

grad schools basically have a blank check to charge whatever they want because they know every student is going to qualify for a loan. it's a bullshit predatory system. grad schools SHOULD be less expensive. as for cost of health services, doctor pay isn't the big issue, its the profit motive of the industry.

another problem is how litigious the US is. hospitals pay through the roof for malpractice insurance, and that cost isn't absorbed. it's passed on to consumers

Honestly, we've gone through this a million times. The fact that almost every other country, rich or poor, already figured out the whole healthcare conundrum a long time ago, and we're still pretty much the only suckers on the planet, tells you this is just a dogma problem at this point, not a practical problem.

[rmt]

grad schools basically have a blank check to charge whatever they want because they know every student is going to qualify for a loan. it's a bullshit predatory system. grad schools SHOULD be less expensive. as for cost of health services, doctor pay isn't the big issue, its the profit motive of the industry.

another problem is how litigious the US is. hospitals pay through the roof for malpractice insurance, and that cost isn't absorbed. it's passed on to consumers

So how do you get all these systems under control to do a universal health-care system like so many of you dream of? Let's hear how this is gonna work other than taxing us to death.

[rmt]

Honestly, we've gone through this a million times. The fact that almost every other country, rich or poor, already figured out the whole healthcare conundrum a long time ago, and we're still pretty much the only suckers on the planet, tells you this is just a dogma problem at this point, not a practical problem.

How do you tell a newly graduated orthopedic surgeon that he's gonna have to accept $x pay and his medical school debt will be forgiven? You think he'll accept that? And if he has to accept $x after 14 years of studying, how LITTLE would an engineer with 4 years' study get or a cashier with no training. Funny how a $15 minimum wage for a cashier with no training will be explained compared with European physician pay to American doctors.

[ElNono]

The US already spends more per capita in Healthcare than any other country, including those with universal and/or mixed healthcare, so it's not an economic problem. The actual problem is the US being unwilling to cap prices on medical goods, something other (capitalist) countries already do (and thus, the US becomes a subsidizer to other systems). Again, this topic has been re-hashed ad nauseum here, it certainly goes beyond a couple of political soundbites.

[ElNono]

How do you tell a newly graduated orthopedic surgeon that he's gonna have to accept $x pay and his medical school debt will be forgiven? You think he'll accept that? And if he has to accept $x after 14 years of studying, how LITTLE would an engineer with 4 years' study get or a cashier with no training. Funny how a $15 minimum wage for a cashier with no training will be explained compared with European physician pay to American doctors.

This goes to another problem too, which is the scam of government-backed student loans. I don't think I have to go too deep into it, it's a well known problem, as spurraider already mentioned.

How do I tell a grad student that they have to accept X? I don't. That's what the market pays. If he wants to start his own practice and charge more (because he thinks he's better or because he thinks he can offer a better service), then he isn't precluded from doing that. Obviously, he'll limit his market, but that's his call. He could double-dip, and work X hours on a given salary and X hours on his private salary. That's how mixed systems work around the world, and though it might sound shocking, doctors actually make a good, decent living there too.

[SnakeBoy]

So how do you get all these systems under control to do a universal health-care system like so many of you dream of? Let's hear how this is gonna work other than taxing us to death.

You're right, the US healthcare system is too complex to reinvent in one fell swoop. One idea was that you start a public health insurance option and build upon it over time. Neither party supported the idea though.

[ElNono]

You're right, the US healthcare system is too complex to reinvent in one fell swoop. One idea was that you start a public health insurance option and build upon it over time. Neither party supported the idea though.

I agree with this. In the sense there's too many prongs to tackle (we touched upon two: college loan costs and price capping), but that's why I said it's a practical problem at this point. There has to be a political will to at least tackle one problem at a time.

ie: Student loans are an issue in and of itself at this point.

[SnakeBoy]

Please tell me how this plan will get medical personnel to accept less pay while carrying burdensome college/med school loans and at the same time reduce the lawsuits. That's the medical, educational and legal systems - good luck with tackling all that. Not to mention the drug industry and the drop in people who would want to go into the medical field - so much studying for so little pay? A pharmacist, physical therapist and audiologist all currently need doctorates. Primary care docs - at least 11? years - more for specialties and surgery.

Holy shit! PT was my major when I first started school since I was working as a PT aide. I had no idea they'd made it a doctorate degree. What a bullshit ripoff for that job.

[rmt]

I agree with this. In the sense there's too many prongs to tackle (we touched upon two: college loan costs and price capping), but that's why I said it's a practical problem at this point. There has to be a political will to at least tackle one problem at a time.

ie: Student loans are an issue in and of itself at this point.


Honestly, we've gone through this a million times. The fact that almost every other country, rich or poor, already figured out the whole healthcare conundrum a long time ago, and we're still pretty much the only suckers on the planet, tells you this is just a dogma problem at this point, not a practical problem.

Actually, you did say earlier that it is NOT a practical problem.

[ElNono]

Actually, you did say earlier that it is NOT a practical problem.

Apologies, misspoke. It's not a practical problem. We know the issues, and we know they're numerous, but there's simply no political will. Not because we don't know the problems or that we don't know of possible solutions, but because some of those solutions go to the core of certain dogmas.

Hope that's more clear.

[SnakeBoy]

Let's get this thread back on track.


It's Happening!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGJPmxXLO5g

[Pavlov]

Let's get this thread back on track.


It's Happening!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGJPmxXLO5g:lmao Infowars

[Chris]

Shocking. Republican columnist writes something criticizing Democrats.

Lockdown the website, we got a winner here.

The only thing is who is on the Board of Directors?

(yawn)

Show us another zinger from Salon or Vanity Fair. I'm sure 'theatlantic' is fair and balanced.

[Isitjustme?]

Show us another zinger from Salon or Vanity Fair. I'm sure 'theatlantic' is fair and balanced.

BenGarrisoncartoon.jpeg

[Chris]

BenGarrisoncartoon.jpeg

2 years later and you're still feeling the aftershocks :lol

lmvictoriousao!

[Isitjustme?]

2 years later and you're still feeling the aftershocks :lol

lmvictoriousao!
Yes, me taking the time out to dunk on you proves that you won

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/rolandscahill/status/1051134134381420552?s=20

Them evil white males don't like being demonized.:madrun

:lmao

[Reck]

Poor Snakeboi desperate for some hope in order to save his shitty backfired thread. :lol

[LGBTQIAPK & G-D]

Poor Snakeboi desperate for some hope in order to save his shitty backfired thread. :lol

:lol

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/BridgetPhetasy/status/1049122385654235137?s=20

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/BridgetPhetasy/status/1049123098765611008?s=20

[Reck]

https://twitter.com/BridgetPhetasy/status/1049122385654235137?s=20

Triggered by a twitter post. :lol

[Pavlov]

https://twitter.com/BridgetPhetasy/status/1049122385654235137?s=20lol random twitter

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/TheRoot/status/1050091131160150016?s=20

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/OrwellNGoode/status/1051186741091155968?s=20

https://verysmartbrothas.theroot.com/what-taylor-swift-did-is-cool-i-guess-but-we-need-les-1829651234

[baseline bum]

another problem is how litigious the US is. hospitals pay through the roof for malpractice insurance, and that cost isn't absorbed. it's passed on to consumers

Meh tort reform did shit to lower prices in Texas.

[boutons_deux]

malpractice payouts total less nationally than $5B/year in a wealth extraction for-profit health care bill of $3T/year, 0.16% max

[Pavlov]

https://twitter.com/OrwellNGoode/status/1051186741091155968?s=20

https://verysmartbrothas.theroot.com/what-taylor-swift-did-is-cool-i-guess-but-we-need-les-1829651234lol random twitter triggers you

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/ACLU/status/1051626960537808898?s=20

Take note that the benefit of white students as a result of implementing an objectively more fair practice is being positioned as a negative outcome.

[FrostKing]

https://twitter.com/OrwellNGoode/status/1051186741091155968?s=20

https://verysmartbrothas.theroot.com/what-taylor-swift-did-is-cool-i-guess-but-we-need-les-1829651234
"So much of the push towards voter registration is directed at blacks and other people of color, but we ain’t the problem. When we vote, the vast majority of us take a look at the ballot box and choose the candidates who are the most sane and the least evil."


He's connecting skin color with evil. He's a columnist for GQ. I see no signs of such hate speech from people of color being silenced or more importantly punished. All signs point to it increasing. I personally do not feel comfortable having white children in America.

[boutons_deux]

Asians are claiming, like Jews 100 years ago, that they are being denied for their race, their look, when they are fully qualified, even more qualified than whites.

Harvard could probably fill their entire freshman classes only with Jews and Asians (east and south) on merit alone, but that would prevent Harvard from preserving Euro-White (Male) Supremacy.

btw, C-student dubya was an "affirmative action" admission to Yale as a legacy student via his father. Same as dubya getting into Harvard, obviously occupying a spot that should have gone to A+ candidate.

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/BenjaminABoyce/status/1055092498060632066?s=20

[DarrinS]

Asians are claiming, like Jews 100 years ago, that they are being denied for their race, their look, when they are fully qualified, even more qualified than whites.

Harvard could probably fill their entire freshman classes only with Jews and Asians (east and south) on merit alone, but that would prevent Harvard from preserving Euro-White (Male) Supremacy.

btw, C-student dubya was an "affirmative action" admission to Yale as a legacy student via his father. Same as dubya getting into Harvard, obviously occupying a spot that should have gone to A+ candidate.


Here ya go

https://college.harvard.edu/admissions/admissions-statistics

[Nathan89]

https://youtu.be/7cUFa9cxl_0

[Pavlov]

https://youtu.be/7cUFa9cxl_0Not a good time to whine about that after two of your white brothers launched terror attacks against blacks and Jews this past weekend, Nathan.

[Chris]

https://youtu.be/7cUFa9cxl_0

Pavlov approves :tu he hates white people because he's a racist.

[Pavlov]

Pavlov approves :tu he hates white people because he's a racist.Who launched the terror attacks against blacks and Jews over the weekend, Chris?

Were they white men?

Yes or no.

[Chris]

Who launched the terror attacks against blacks and Jews over the weekend, Chris?

Were they white men?

Yes or no.

I don't look for skin color. You do though because you are a racist.

[Pavlov]

I don't look for skin color. You do though because you are a racist.Did white men launch the terror attacks against blacks and Jews over the weekend, Chris?

Yes or no.

[Spurminator]

https://youtu.be/7cUFa9cxl_0

Is he wrong?

Do you dispute the statement, or are you afraid America is going to start profiling white men?

[Nathan89]

Not a good time to whine about that after two of your white brothers launched terror attacks against blacks and Jews this past weekend, Nathan.

"White brothers" lol

[Isitjustme?]

Poor white guys. Got it so rough in america 2018 :depressed

[Nathan89]

Is he wrong?

Do you dispute the statement, or are you afraid America is going to start profiling white men?

I really don't care about his statement. It's the fact that if you started blasting other demos like that then suddenly it's "racist".

[Pavlov]

I really don't care about his statement. It's the fact that if you started blasting other demos like that then suddenly it's "racist".Nah, it would just be statistically wrong.

[Nathan89]

Nah, it would just be statistically wrong.

If I was referring to the same type of crime then yes.

[Pavlov]

If I was referring to the same type of crime then yes.So Lemon is right.

What's your complaint, again?

[Spurminator]

I really don't care about his statement.

:lol Yes you do. You're the most persecuted white male in the history of America. It's all you ever talk about.


It's the fact that if you started blasting other demos like that then suddenly it's "racist".

Well you couldn't call other demos out for being the biggest terror threat because it wouldn't be true. The racist component usually comes up in discussions about whether we should profile certain groups (or ban them from travel) based on statistics of crime.

When people like Lemon talk about white men being statistically more dangerous, it's not about creating a fear of white men, it's about providing context to combat the irrational fear of Muslims. Because no one's talking about doing anything about white men in this country. They are talking about what to do with Muslims.

[Pavlov]

:lol Nathan sets his hair on fire every day about potential threats he sees from what he says are stupid brown folks walking in Mexico but clutches his pearls after terrorist threats were actually carried out by whitey.

[Nathan89]

So Lemon is right.

What's your complaint, again?

Different standards.

[Pavlov]

Different standards.The standard's being the statement regarding whitey is accurate?

:lol Nathan is upset that it's true.

[Nathan89]

:lol Yes you do. You're the most persecuted white male in the history of America. It's all you ever talk about.



Well you couldn't call other demos out for being the biggest terror threat because it wouldn't be true. The racist component usually comes up in discussions about whether we should profile certain groups (or ban them from travel) based on statistics of crime.

When people like Lemon talk about white men being statistically more dangerous, it's not about creating a fear of white men, it's about providing context to combat the irrational fear of Muslims. Because no one's talking about doing anything about white men in this country. They are talking about what to do with Muslims.

White men aren't statistically more dangerous.

Nobody is doing anything about Muslims born in America.

[Nathan89]

I really don't care about his statement. It's the fact that if you started blasting other demos like that then suddenly it's "racist".

Actually this isn't completely true. This is mostly what bothers me but his statement devoid of solutions also bothers me. "We have to start doing something about them(white men)." What is Don suggesting? I don't think he has a single reasonable solution to stop statistical outlier events committed by White men.

[Th'Pusher]

Nathan is three steps away from sending pipe bombs to prominent democrats and 5 steps away from murdering Jews imho.

The guy went from Bernie bro to trump voter to trump fanboy to nationalist in less than two years.

Way too impressionable. Way too malleable.

[Nathan89]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di3WRRHRWlE&feature=youtu.be

Gillum staffer calls Florida a "cracker state". Also say you have to appeal to white guilt. So welcoming.:lmao

[Pavlov]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di3WRRHRWlE&feature=youtu.be

Gillum staffer calls Florida a "cracker state". Also say you have to appeal to white guilt. So welcoming.:lmaolol aggrieved Nathan

:lol "Veritas"

[Nathan89]

Always a deflection.

[Pavlov]

Always a deflection.Everything you post is a deflection from your privilege, Nathan.

What are you bitching about now?

[Nathan89]

Everything you post is a deflection from your privilege, Nathan.

What are you bitching about now?

Just racist remarks in this thread, Pav. Nothing to see here because they are made against whites.

[Pavlov]

Just racist remarks in this thread, Pav. Nothing to see here because they are made against whites.Post some white racist remarks against minorities, Nathan.

Let's see them.

[Nathan89]

Post some white racist remarks against minorities, Nathan.

Let's see them.

It's less common because that's not accepted, Pav.

[Pavlov]

It's less common because that's not accepted, Pav.You're trying to tell me you can't find one in the whole of the internets, Nathan?

[Pavlov]

:lol Nathan ran away.

Happy Halloween!
https://i.imgur.com/z7afhhJ.jpg

[Nathan89]

You're trying to tell me you can't find one in the whole of the internets, Nathan?

There are some of nobodies. I don't see it regularly on Tv, in internet articles(popular sites), popular twitter feeds, etc. This latest one is of a campaign staffer that was friends with Gillum in college. Seems worth posting.

[Pavlov]

There are some of nobodies. I don't see it regularly on Tv, in internet articles(popular sites), popular twitter feeds, etc. This latest one is of a campaign staffer that was friends with Gillum in college. Seems worth posting.Sounds like a nobody tbh. But anything for your grievance.

[Winehole23]

Don't make me post about Florida crackers again.

[Winehole23]

You should look it up, Nathan. Don't forget to leave the word Florida in the search terms.

[Pavlov]

Nathan was on Gab and says he never seent a single racist remark.

[Winehole23]

:rollin

[Winehole23]

correct description and objectively accurate stereotyping isn't racism.

is it?

[Nathan89]

Nathan was on Gab and says he never seent a single racist remark.

There is a lot of racist remarks on Gab. None are worthy of posting on here though.

[Pavlov]

There is a lot of racist remarks on Gab. None are worthy of posting on here though.And you are the only arbiter of what racist comments from nobodies should be posted anywhere else.

Another privilege.

[Nathan89]

And you are the only arbiter of what racist comments from nobodies should be posted anywhere else.

Another privilege.

Yes, when I'm the one posting that's how it works.

[Pavlov]

Yes, when I'm the one posting that's how it works.How your privilege works? You prove that regularly.

[Spurtacular]

https://youtu.be/7cUFa9cxl_0

:lmao Chump defending this.

[Pavlov]

:lmao Chump defending this.
What was the race of the men who committed the latest high profile terror attacks, derp?

[Pavlov]

Looks like you're having trouble.

Here are some visual aids.

https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/styles/story_large/public/thumbnails/image/2018/10/29/14/robert-bowers.jpg

https://static.pressfrom.info/upload/images/real/2018/10/28/kroger-shooting-man-who-killed-2-tried-to-enter-a-predominantly-black-church-minutes-earlier__403423_.jpg

[Spurtacular]

What was the race of the men who committed the latest high profile terror attacks, derp?

Are white terrorists the biggest terror threat?

Yes or no.

[Pavlov]

Are white terrorists the biggest terror threat?

Yes or no.Yes.

Question pending.

What was the race of the men who committed the latest high profile terror attacks, derp?

https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/styles/story_large/public/thumbnails/image/2018/10/29/14/robert-bowers.jpg


https://static.pressfrom.info/upload/images/real/2018/10/28/kroger-shooting-man-who-killed-2-tried-to-enter-a-predominantly-black-church-minutes-earlier__403423_.jpg

[SnakeBoy]

Looks like you're having trouble.

Here are some visual aids.

https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/styles/story_large/public/thumbnails/image/2018/10/29/14/robert-bowers.jpg

https://static.pressfrom.info/upload/images/real/2018/10/28/kroger-shooting-man-who-killed-2-tried-to-enter-a-predominantly-black-church-minutes-earlier__403423_.jpg

:lol Chump is scared

They gonna getcha

[Pavlov]

:lol Chump is scared

They gonna getchaWell, the last couple of terror attacks in Austin were pretty close to where I lived -- a half mile and mile as the crow flies respectively.

Both white guys.

[SnakeBoy]

Well, the last couple of terror attacks in Austin were pretty close to where I lived -- a half mile and mile as the crow flies respectively.

Both white guys.

They gonna getcha

[Pavlov]

They gonna getchaMore likely than the Guatemalans tbh.

[Spurtacular]

Yes.



And what is your argumentation for this?

[Pavlov]

Here's the one that was half a mile from my place.

https://am22.akamaized.net/tms/cnt/uploads/2010/02/joe-stack-plane.jpg

https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2711/4368415674_69b2277522_b.jpg

by this winner:

http://murderpedia.org/male.S/images/stack-andrew-joseph/andrew-joseph-stack-6.jpg

[Spurtacular]

Here's the one that was half a mile from my place.

https://am22.akamaized.net/tms/cnt/uploads/2010/02/joe-stack-plane.jpg



So, you're really scared of white people, then?

[Chucho]

I learned a new word; argumentation.

:lol

[Spurtacular]

:lol

:lol Crusty

[Pavlov]

So, you're really scared of white people, then?Not you.

You're laughably impotent and harmless.

Are you really afraid of Guatemalan babies?

[angrydude]

Not you.

You're laughably impotent and harmless.

Are you really afraid of Guatemalan babies?

No but I don't want them here unless they come in legally

[Spurtacular]

Not you.

You're laughably impotent and harmless.

Are you really afraid of Guatemalan babies?

Are you afraid of white people? You call them the biggest terrorists.

[Nathan89]

Has Pav seen crime statistics? Seems odd to be deathly afraid of white males. Therapy could help tbh.

[Boston Pancake]

They gonna getcha

:lmao the guy who pisses himself over Muslims & Antifa is making this joke.

[CNN]

We first reported that white men are the number one terrorist threat Americans face. It's not just white men who commit terrorist acts - being white and male in the US is being a terrorist in the US. Even if you don't know it yet, even if you're 8 years old and can't name the president of the United States (you'll be thankful later, trust us), you are a terrorist because you are white.

Our own Don Lemon broke this news. This is undeniable fact, backed by rigorous scientific research and peer reviewed. We thought about calling this the "Lemon Law" but you cannot get a refund for being white. You shouldn't need one however, you're already born on third base so no amount of financial burden will ever put you at the disadvantage you have put other races throughout the history of your existence.

CNN hopes one day to be the catalyst for the total extermination of the white race - but starting with the white men will have to suffice until we can make more progress. At that time, we can begin to focus on females who are supporting terrorism and the soon-to-be little terrorists that infest our schools and neighborhoods.

Stay tuned

[Pavlov]

Are you afraid of white people? You call them the biggest terrorists.Statistically they are and have launched attacks closer to me than any Guatemalan baby.

Should I be more afraid of the Guatemalan baby, derp?

Yes or no.

[Spurtacular]

Statistically they are and have launched attacks closer to me than any Guatemalan baby.

Should I be more afraid of the Guatemalan baby, derp?

Yes or no.

Stop dancing around the question and tell me if you're afraid of white people or not.

[Pavlov]

Has Pav seen crime statistics? Seems odd to be deathly afraid of white males. Therapy could help tbh.:lol Nathan. You've lost your mind.

[Pavlov]

Stop dancing around the question and tell me if you're afraid of white people or not.Should I not be?

Explain.

[Spurtacular]

Should I not be?

Explain.

I'm not saying you should be. Are you afraid of white people?

Yes or no.

[Pavlov]

I'm not saying you should be. Are you afraid of white people?

Yes or no.Some, sure.

Not impotent fools like you.

[Spurtacular]

Some, sure.

Not impotent fools like you.

So, white people scare you. Got it.

[vy65]

We first reported that white men are the number one terrorist threat Americans face. It's not just white men who commit terrorist acts - being white and male in the US is being a terrorist in the US. Even if you don't know it yet, even if you're 8 years old and can't name the president of the United States (you'll be thankful later, trust us), you are a terrorist because you are white.

Our own Don Lemon broke this news. This is undeniable fact, backed by rigorous scientific research and peer reviewed. We thought about calling this the "Lemon Law" but you cannot get a refund for being white. You shouldn't need one however, you're already born on third base so no amount of financial burden will ever put you at the disadvantage you have put other races throughout the history of your existence.

CNN hopes one day to be the catalyst for the total extermination of the white race - but starting with the white men will have to suffice until we can make more progress. At that time, we can begin to focus on females who are supporting terrorism and the soon-to-be little terrorists that infest our schools and neighborhoods.

Stay tuned

Depressing how much effort was put into this post

[Chucho]

Depressing how much effort was put into this post

Not really when you consider a sociopath wrote it.

[vy65]

Wonder which poster is gonna get turned into a lamp shade first?

[Pavlov]

So, white people scare you. Got it.Some do, given their history of terror attacks near where I lived.

Who are you afraid of?

[Spurtacular]

Some do, given their history of terror attacks near where I lived.

Who are you afraid of?

I don't live my life in fear like you do.

[Pavlov]

Depressing how much effort was put into this postHe does try so hard, doesn't he?

[Pavlov]

I don't live my life in fear like you do.:lol derp

[DMC]

:lol Nathan. You've lost your mind.

“There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps... then turn around and see somebody white and feel relieved.” -Jesse Jackson

[Spurtacular]

:lol derp

:lol Same ole, I know.

https://udemy-images.udemy.com/course/750x422/1269134_09a7.jpg

[vy65]

He does try so hard, doesn't he?

Super healthy behavior

[Pavlov]

:lol Same ole, I know.

https://udemy-images.udemy.com/course/750x422/1269134_09a7.jpg
You live in fear of simple questions that are posed to you on SpursTalk.:lol

[FrostKing]

:lol Same ole, I know.

https://udemy-images.udemy.com/course/750x422/1269134_09a7.jpg
Brown country playing chess

[FrostKing]

You live in fear of simple questions that are posed to you on SpursTalk.:lol
Spanish -

[Spurtacular]

You live in fear of simple questions that are posed to you on SpursTalk.:lol

:lol Sociopaths's truth.

[RandomGuy]

White Millennials Are Leaving the Democratic Party as 'Walk Away' Campaign Picks Up Steam
https://pjmedia.com/election/white-millennials-are-leaving-the-democratic-party-as-walk-away-campaign-picks-up-steam/

#walkaway

Looks like white millennials didn't leave the Democratic Party, but turned up to vote for them.

#snakeboysuckeredbypropaganda

[SnakeBoy]

Looks like white millennials didn't leave the Democratic Party, but turned up to vote for them.

#snakeboysuckeredbypropaganda

4 months later you're still thinking about it. Write me another poem. My finest work tbh.

lol No Blue Wave

lol They walked away

[Reck]

4 months later you're still thinking about it. Write me another poem. My finest work tbh.

lol No Blue Wave

lol They walked away

Snakeboi in hard denial almost 2 weeks later. :lol

[RandomGuy]

4 months later you're still thinking about it. Write me another poem. My finest work tbh.

lol No Blue Wave

lol They walked away

That is some solid gold denial. The GOP got wrecked and is pretty much ended in California, by alienating entire swaths of the elecctorate, in a way that is shockingly similar in scope and scale to what they are doing in Texas. Once that part of the dam goes...

The Senate map was bad for the Democrats this time around, but will be vastly worse for the GOP in 2020, where Trump will be on the ballot, even if he doesn't finish his term. There has been zero drop off in Democratic intensity since the election. None.

(shrugs)

That is some shitty trolling, even for your dumb ass.

[boutons_deux]

"The GOP got wrecked and is pretty much ended in California"

destroyed,

by CA GOP's own admission

[RandomGuy]

Snakeboi in hard denial almost 2 weeks later. :lol

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/at-least-123-women-are-headed-to-congress-just-19-are-republicans/

Something more interesting. The GOP has managed to lose: millenials, women, hispanics, african-americans.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/resizer/jisjNfKpNP8f0DrHanx7g2tXMpI=/1484x0/arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/GMH7HAXHTAI6RBCJD7ZGGYE2GE.jpg

I guess we will get to see how that pans out in the long run. This picture captures it in a nutshell.

As Democrats set their sights on gerrymandering, and leveling the playing field, that will make the GOP's losses in the next 10 years all more marked.

[boutons_deux]

"As Democrats set their sights on gerrymandering"

... voter suppression.

Dems don't enough guts and craziness to take on the anti-American Repugs.

Dems certainly can't do anything at Federal level, since gerrymandering and voter suppression executed at state level, Constitutionally.

Red/slave states are almost totally out of play for the Dems.

Purple states won't be enough to overcome the obstruction in the Constitutionally rigged Senate

Repugs will fight Dem suits up to SCOTUS, who will defeat the Dems 5 whores to 4 (at least), for decades, but many Dem suits will be blocked at Fed district and appeals level.

I doubt Pelosi will accomplish much in the next two years.

[SnakeBoy]

That is some solid gold denial. The GOP got wrecked and is pretty much ended in California, by alienating entire swaths of the elecctorate, in a way that is shockingly similar in scope and scale to what they are doing in Texas. Once that part of the dam goes...

The Senate map was bad for the Democrats this time around, but will be vastly worse for the GOP in 2020, where Trump will be on the ballot, even if he doesn't finish his term. There has been zero drop off in Democratic intensity since the election. None.

(shrugs)

That is some shitty trolling, even for your dumb ass.

lol No Blue Wave. Actually a pretty weak showing historically. Look it up.

[RandomGuy]

lol No Blue Wave. Actually a pretty weak showing historically. Look it up.

Already did. Unsurprisingly, you are wrong in about two different ways that I can think of, just off the top of my head.

But hey, don't let me stop you from looking outside the echo chamber. I prefer you dumb and happy.

Sure, there was no blue wave. Keep telling yourself that. Please.

[Pavlov]

:yield"look it up":yield

[SnakeBoy]

https://media.giphy.com/media/WnaAbjICNPZEA/source.gif

[Pavlov]

https://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lr3wucD2ta1qc90zu.gif

[Reck]

lol No Blue Wave. Actually a pretty weak showing historically. Look it up.

I dont do trolling nor am I an expert on that subject but I'm pretty sure you need to be more witty and smart about it. Outright denial is not it.

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1067181213838790656

[RandomGuy]

:yield"look it up":yield

Not even going to attempt to burst the bubble at this point. It is amusing.

[SnakeBoy]

I dont do trolling nor am I an expert on that subject but I'm pretty sure you need to be more witty and smart about it. Outright denial is not it.


We're coming up on 5 months of RG returning to this thread with minimal responses from me so yeah you're not an expert.

[Reck]

We're coming up on 5 months of RG returning to this thread with minimal responses from me so yeah you're not an expert.

Since when is a thread which backfired on you spectacularly with over 15 pages a good sign for you?

People bump it to make fun of your shitty and untrue statements. That's like TSA saying, my pizzagate thread was so on the money I still got the libtards triggered over it. :lol

[RandomGuy]

We're coming up on 5 months of RG returning to this thread with minimal responses from me so yeah you're not an expert.

You can haz the sads all you want.

The Schadenfruede is too delicious, especially when you can't admit you got suckered by what amounts to a cheap ad campaign.

Anything beats wondering what else in your belief system is similarly bogus, I guess. You do you. I will keep coming back here for years.

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/HarvardBiz/status/1074876670006493184?s=20

[Pavlov]

https://twitter.com/HarvardBiz/status/1074876670006493184?s=20Are you a firefighter, Nathan?

[FrostKing]

Are you a firefighter, Nathan?
"First they came ..." is a poem written by the German Lutheran pastor Martin Niemöller

[Pavlov]

"First they came ..." is a poem written by the German Lutheran pastor Martin NiemöllerAlso not a firefighter.

[FrostKing]

Diversity = less for you & your White family

Bottomline.

[FrostKing]

Also not a firefighter.
Honest question: are you battling for positive change for your demographic or are you a white traitor?

[Pavlov]

lol you're terrified you can't compete

Bottom line.

[FrostKing]

lol you're terrified you can't compete

Bottom line.
I would be competing with superior talent for less positions. You are hoping over generations and interbreeding with the white population, Jammal's IQ rises to my standard. Sounds like a successful plan. Meanwhile Poland had all its leadership and intellect murdered 1 generation ago and we already rebounded with a booming nation. But keep trying to train the monkey, still at it hundreds of years and excuses later.....

[Will Hunting]

I would be competing with superior talent for less positions. You are hoping over generations and race mixing with the white population, Jammal's IQ rises to my standard. Sounds like a successful plan. Meanwhile Poland had all its leadership and intellect murdered 1 generation ago and we already rebounded with a booming nation. But keep trying to train the monkey, still at it hundreds of years and excuses later.....

A few things:

1) You don't live in Poland, you live in America.
2) Are you seriously trying to claim WWII was "a generation ago" :lmao
3) By what metrics is Poland a "booming nation"? The fact you wished you lived there?

[Pavlov]

I would be competing with superior talent for less positions. You are hoping over generations and interbreeding with the white population, Jammal's IQ rises to my standard. Sounds like a successful plan. Meanwhile Poland had all its leadership and intellect murdered 1 generation ago and we already rebounded with a booming nation. But keep trying to train the monkey, still at it hundreds of years and excuses later.....:lmao running back to Poland
:lmao waiting for Russia to invade again

[Will Hunting]

https://tradingeconomics.com/country-list/gdp-per-capita?continent=europe

:lol Poland
:lol 2017 GDP per capita less than half of what the average is across the EU

[Spurminator]

https://twitter.com/HarvardBiz/status/1074876670006493184?s=20

Which part of the article do you disagree with, Nathan? Did you read it?

[RandomGuy]

We're coming up on 5 months of RG returning to this thread with minimal responses from me so yeah you're not an expert.

LOL "look it up".

#didnotlookitup

#suckeredandpathetic

[rmt]

If I'm trapped in a fire, I want a 100% male firefighter department. I don't care what race - but no female - shades of An Officer and a Gentleman who can't get over the WALL :-) and might not be able to carry me out.

[clambake]

If I'm trapped in a fire, I want a 100% male firefighter department. I don't care what race - but no female - shades of An Officer and a Gentleman who can't get over the WALL :-) and might not be able to carry me out.

ha, you better hope he's not white. this is frostkings world.

[Spurminator]

"First they came ..." is a poem written by the German Lutheran pastor Martin Niemöller

Did you read the article? No one's coming for anyone.

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1076114194292981762?s=20

[Pavlov]

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1076114194292981762?s=20Moar snowflakes.

[Spurminator]

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1076114194292981762?s=20

You didn't answer my question about the firefighters article you posted. Have you had a chance to read it yet?

[Nathan89]

You didn't answer my question about the firefighters article you posted. Have you had a chance to read it yet?

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The part where they are bewildered by the % of men in the first paragraph for starters. Many women don't have the physical capability. Many women don't want to be firefighters. As a result they dominate other fields that they do want: teaching, nursing, etc.

"“when the topic of female firefighters came up, the importance of physical strength was consistently and spontaneously invoked to justify the relative absence of women in the fire service, but the importance of compassion (a female-stereotyped trait) was rarely, if ever, brought up to argue for bringing more women into the profession.”"

Apparently the Harvard big brains can't understand why objective strength is a bigger deal than subjective compassion. Also the fact that you don't need excessive compassion to apply medical help but you do need to be physically capable.

"I find that, when evaluating fit and competence, firefighters tend to default to a reductive set of traits (physical strength evaluated through strict fitness tests, for example) that serve to maintain white men’s dominance in the fire service."

Yes, physical ability is one of the standards of becoming a firefighter. They also have to have knowledge in regard to fighting fires and medical knowledge because they are often first on scene. So basically you have to be well rounded. I think that's also a reason for less minorities. Just becoming an EMT(according to Google is needed to become a firefighter) for example takes longer than becoming a cop. It's probably a more extensive education as well. So comparing firefighters to cops and military is also nonsense.

"We determined that this is because stereotypes about women’s relative lack of physical strength and stamina have led to a widespread belief that departments have lowered their standards to accommodate female firefighters, thus undermining the integrity of the service and posing a threat to their colleagues and communities."

Departments have lowered standards. That's a fact. Therefore, the complaining about their peers "testing" women is a bullshit complaint. It's a natural consequence of your bullshit decisions. The same can be said about affirmative action if that means lowering standards for blacks like colleges do. That's not a hostile work environment to test them. That's people seeing if they can trust them because bullshit decisions may have watered down the prospects of certain demos.

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/Amy_Siskind/status/1074668068448677890?s=20

[Pavlov]

https://twitter.com/Amy_Siskind/status/1074668068448677890?s=20Who is this person who triggered you?

[Nathan89]

Who is this person who triggered you?

Activist, feminist, author, Democrat, etc with 330k followers. Just another proud racist and sexist Dem.

[spurraider21]

who the fuck is amy siskind and why are you the only person who goes out of your way to look up her tweets?

[Nathan89]

I love how I point out blatant sexism and racism that encapsulates the direction of the Dem party. One tweet that shows exactly what I've been trying to show in this thread and you reply with nonsense.

[Pavlov]

I love how I point out blatant sexism and racism that encapsulates the direction of the Dem party. One tweet that shows exactly what I've been trying to show in this thread and you reply with nonsense.Are they oppressing you?

[Nathan89]

who the fuck is amy siskind and why are you the only person who goes out of your way to look up her tweets?

I saw her blatant racism and sexism get called out elsewhere so I searched for her tweet. She seems to be quite prominent. She certainly encapsulated the entirety of this thread with her proud racism and sexism towards white men.

[Spurminator]

Thank you for answering. I was not sure why you posted the article in this thread. I assumed you were under the impression that this was an article advocating for quotas or affirmative action, neither of which it ever encourages.

I'm still not sure why the proactive recruitment and advocacy for firefighting among minorities and women would bother anyone. None of your answers shed any light on that.


The part where they are bewildered by the % of men in the first paragraph for starters. Many women don't have the physical capability. Many women don't want to be firefighters. As a result they dominate other fields that they do want: teaching, nursing, etc.

"“when the topic of female firefighters came up, the importance of physical strength was consistently and spontaneously invoked to justify the relative absence of women in the fire service, but the importance of compassion (a female-stereotyped trait) was rarely, if ever, brought up to argue for bringing more women into the profession.”"

Apparently the Harvard big brains can't understand why objective strength is a bigger deal than subjective compassion. Also the fact that you don't need excessive compassion to apply medical help but you do need to be physically capable.

They gave data rationale for this opinion. "In 2016, only 4% of emergency calls to which U.S. fire departments responded were actually fires. The majority (64%) were medical emergencies."

35% of EMT's are female. If they are capable of performing those duties I see no reason a female firefighter cannot perform similar duties with the 96% of emergency calls to her department.


Yes, physical ability is one of the standards of becoming a firefighter. They also have to have knowledge in regard to fighting fires and medical knowledge because they are often first on scene. So basically you have to be well rounded. I think that's also a reason for less minorities. Just becoming an EMT(according to Google is needed to become a firefighter) for example takes longer than becoming a cop. It's probably a more extensive education as well. So comparing firefighters to cops and military is also nonsense.

Just so I'm clear, you think we should avoid recruiting minorities for firefighting jobs because firefighters have to be strong and smart?


"We determined that this is because stereotypes about women’s relative lack of physical strength and stamina have led to a widespread belief that departments have lowered their standards to accommodate female firefighters, thus undermining the integrity of the service and posing a threat to their colleagues and communities."

Departments have lowered standards. That's a fact. Therefore, the complaining about their peers "testing" women is a bullshit complaint. It's a natural consequence of your bullshit decisions.

Source needed


The same can be said about affirmative action if that means lowering standards for blacks like colleges do. That's not a hostile work environment to test them. That's people seeing if they can trust them because bullshit decisions may have watered down the prospects of certain demos.

Source needed

I don't think you know fuck all about affirmative action.

[Nathan89]

Are they oppressing you?

Glad to know you have no problem with racism and sexism. Perhaps if you stopped your cleanup crew antics this wouldn't be an issue.

[Pavlov]

Glad to know you have no problem with racism and sexism. Perhaps if you stopped your cleanup crew antics this wouldn't be an issue.You have no problem with the racism and sexism on the right, Nathan.

Perhaps you might want to look into that.

[Nathan89]

"All over the nation, fire departments are easing physical standards, in response to litigation to increase the number of women firefighters."

https://nypost.com/2015/05/05/fdnys-unfit-the-perils-of-pushing-women-into-firefighting/

Lower standards for women and naturally you'll get tested. Don't cry about it and claim "hostile" work environment.

[Pavlov]

"All over the nation, fire departments are easing physical standards, in response to litigation to increase the number of women firefighters."

https://nypost.com/2015/05/05/fdnys-unfit-the-perils-of-pushing-women-into-firefighting/

Lower standards for women and naturally you'll get tested. Don't cry about it and claim "hostile" work environment.Well, are more people dying because of that?

[Nathan89]

Well, are more people dying because of that?

Don't know tbh. Just like the Harvard article didn't point out if that diversity was going to save more lives. I'll they had in the article are some subjective statements.

[Pavlov]

Don't know tbh. Just like the Harvard article didn't point out if that diversity was going to save more lives. I'll they had in the article are some subjective statements.That's the bottom line for me--not your grievance.

[Nathan89]

Bottom line for you is being the cleanup crew for disposable people that preach racism and sexism proudly.

[Pavlov]

Bottom line for you is being the cleanup crew for disposable people that preach racism and sexism proudly.:lol no

Your bottom line is simply muh privilege you thought first Bernie then Trump would preserve. You're scared of women and minorities.

[Nathan89]

:lol no

Your bottom line is simply muh privilege you thought first Bernie then Trump would preserve. You're scared of women and minorities.

Using women as a special class :lol

[Pavlov]

Using women as a special class :lol
:lol you're making no sense.

[Nathan89]

:lol you're making no sense.

Why did you highlight women?

[Pavlov]

Why did you highlight women?:lmao you were bitching about women.

[Nathan89]

:lmao you were bitching about women.

Oh, so you can't comment on women without "fearing" them.

[Thanos]

Oh, so you can't comment on women without "fearing" them.
No, you can comment on them. It’s when your comment reeks of fear that the “fearing” them part kicks in.

[Nathan89]

Exactly. You can't comment or you'll create a bullshit narrative.

[Pavlov]

Oh, so you can't comment on women without "fearing" them.Are you drunk?

[FrostKing]

27igXa4G3eU

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1079448807065174016?s=20

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/CHSommers/status/1091104517217767426?s=20

Bernie going all in on the evil white male narrative by using misleading statistics. Surely this will bring the country together. Surely this won't breed hatred and racism.

[Nathan89]

Repost from the other thread.


https://youtu.be/8IIm2an8QkI

1:30-
Guy- Telling us we can't talk about fairness in debate because we are white....


5:20-
Girl- What's the terminal impact of feeling white guilt?
Guy- It's genocide. We're saying all racism is bad.

5:55-
Guy- You said we couldn't talk about something because we are white. It's not that we feel guilty you are trying to make us feel guilty.
Girl- What's wrong with making you feel guilty? What's wrong with taking responsibility for what you did?
Guy- That's not what I did. I am not my ancestors. You are holding be guilty for something I didn't do.

7:15-
Guy- And we're not saying racism is good we think it's horrible. We think attributing everything white people have ever done is racism.

7:50-
Judge- This argument is like saying identity politics doesn't matter and is bad. How is that ok?

9:08-
Guy- We're not advocating white identity. We're not trying to be any form of racist.
Judge- You are reading been Shapiro- said in squeaky voice

10:30-
Guy- I don't think this is racist.
Girl- You don't think it's racist but you're white.

10:50-
Guy- Telling me I can't talk about something because of my race is racist.
Girl- I'm not having this conversation. - They are in a debate.

11:00-Forward- You actually get video at this point and interaction between all parties. If you want to watch any then start here.

14:30- Bias judge calls ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson white supremacists.

15:10-
Judge- I'm going to end the round.
Guy- You can end the round but I really don't think you are being an appropriate judge at this point. You are ending the round because of your own political opinions.

15:50-
Judge- I just don't think being in arguments like this is helpful.
Guy- I know what you think but why does it matter when you are not in the round.
Judge- Because it does actual phycological violence to people.

17:30-
Girl-. I don't need to tell no white man why my identity matters.
Guy- See that's racist why does it matter that I'm white.
Girl- No, no, shut the fuck up I don't want to hear you.

18:10:
Tournament director- I talked to the judge and do think y'all have a legitimate gripe about ending the debate in the middle. That said I don't think you have a reason to overturn the decision.

25:00- Good discussion on the debate community handling identity politics.


Girl wins debate.

[spurraider21]

pretty sure a lot of the gender pay gap numbers fail to consider life choices. full/part time, maternity leave, etc.

[spurraider21]

:lmao nathan

that thread didnt go the way you wanted. now you're trying to have a second go and hoping it comes off less pathetic this time

[benefactor]

:lol the HS debate again

Did you not figure out how dumb posting that was the first time, ducks jr?