Patrick Mahomes church of hype

[Blake]

"There's nothing like Proclamation Season, with coaches and players hyping the potential of unheralded individuals at every turn. Typically, I just ignore these shout-outs, chalking them up to offseason fodder. But occasionally, some of the bluster -- when it's bold, but also sensible -- grabs my attention.

After hearing former*Kansas City Chiefs*edge rusher*Tamba Hali*raving about*Patrick Mahomes*on NFL Network's "Good Morning Football" this week, I'm beginning to buy into the hype that's swelling around the second-year quarterback.

"You're going to get a complete player,"*Hali said. "I mean, he's a smart player. He can throw the ball. Athletically, he's gifted. You don't have to coach it. In practice, I'd watch him just look guys off.*Eric Berry, you look him off and complete the ball. He did it to*Marcus Peters*a lot. People don't know what's coming. I don't want to hype him, but I compare him to Brett Favre. He runs around the field and he throws the ball and he's just having fun."

Whoa!"

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000939066/article/patrick-mahomes-set-to-break-out-jimmy-garoppolo-overrated

[Blake]

I'm gonna be stealing him in the 3-4 rounds of many ff drafts tbh

[Pelicans78]

I liked him coming out of the draft more than any other QB. Anxious to see how he does.

[spurraider21]

prematurely anointed tbh

[Blake]

prematurely anointed tbh

But he's played a whole game before

[benefactor]

Grew up just a few miles from me. I'm pulling for the kid.

[SpursforSix]

Grew up just a few miles from me. I'm pulling for the kid.

I used to play his dad in bball, football, and baseball. He was great at everything but I was surprised that he had such a decent MLB career.
And that Paul Thomas didn't.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

He's the good Kaepernick.

[Blake]

His game is nothing like Kaepernick.

The article had Favre comparisons but I think he's more like Donovan McNabb tbh

[look_at_g_shred]

I'm gonna be stealing him in the 3-4 rounds of many ff drafts tbh
3-4 rounds are you serious? This is a guy you take in like the 14-16 range.

[look_at_g_shred]

He has a tough schedule to start the season. I could see him catching fire week 5 on and being waiver wire gold

[Blake]

3-4 rounds are you serious? This is a guy you take in like the 14-16 range.

Yeah I'll be playing it be ear like usual. If I'm in a 12 team league and every team but me has a qb by round 3 then yeah ill wait until round 7-8.

Lol waiver gold.

[spurraider21]

lol rounds 3-4 for an unproven qb

[Blake]

lol rounds 3-4 for an unproven qb

Lol I'll hold out until late rounds if I can for sure but if I get the sense he might go I don't mind going as high as 3-4 round pick

I've got 3 leagues from $500 to 1200 and I'm pushing all my chips in on getting wrs/rbs in the first few rounds and then Patrick.

It'll be fun lol

[phxspurfan]

Don't know this dude/don't give af about the Chefs, but Pat Mahomes is a cool ass football name doe

[SpursforSix]

He has a tough schedule to start the season. I could see him catching fire week 5 on and being waiver wire gold

I don't see that happening. Someone will take him in the late rounds as a second QB and hold him.

[Blake]

More hype

https://sports.yahoo.com/wunderkind-qb-patrick-mahomes-chiefs-andy-reid-finds-kindred-spirit-080601582.html

[Darth_Pelican]

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/24255909/kansas-city-chiefs-qb-patrick-mahomes-plagued-mistakes


New Chiefs QB Patrick Mahomes has seven INTs in six practices


ST. JOSEPH, Mo. -- Patrick Mahomes (http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/3139477/patrick-mahomes) made a choice early in Wednesday's training camp practice that the Kansas City Chiefs (http://www.espn.com/nfl/team/_/name/kc/kansas-city-chiefs)' starting quarterback immediately regretted.
With the offense close to the goal line, Mahomes dropped to pass but had a running lane so wide he could have scored the touchdown himself. Mahomes instead threw into the end zone, where the pass was intercepted by reserve defensive back Leon McQuay (http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/3043217/leon-mcquay).
"That was on me," Mahomes said. "I easily could have run in it. We were in a live period and I kind of didn't want to hear the defense talking trash to me for running it in because they can't tackle me [during practice]. So I threw the ball. ... You just have to play the game how it's supposed to be played [and] don't try to force something in because they can't tackle you. It's just something I have to learn from, and hopefully in a game I just run it in.
"That's the first thing I said when I came to the sideline: I could have run it. [The coaches] said, 'Then just do it. Don't train bad habits.' ... That was the play that needed to be made on that one."

New Chiefs QB Patrick Mahomes had three interceptions during Wednesday's training camp practice, giving him seven in six sessions. "He had a few hiccups today," offensive coordinator Eric Bieniemy said. AP Photo/Orlin WagnerIt was a learning moment for Mahomes and a mistake he might not make again. But it's not the only mistake he has made in camp. He threw two other interceptions Wednesday and has seven in six camp practices. Six of the picks have come during the three practice sessions in pads, when play is most competitive.
"He had a few hiccups today," offensive coordinator Eric Bieniemy said. "But that's a part of the process. When you're young you need those hiccups because they become valuable lessons. ... Would we like for him to be perfect? Yes. We'd like for him to have the highest quarterback rating ever. ... He just needs to be poised under pressure."

That's another mistake Smith rarely made, if ever.
"Being able to get in and out of the huddle, calling the right plays and then not making a bad play worse is something I've got to keep getting better at," Mahomes said.
"I have to eliminate those mistakes. It's something that can be described as a learning process. Hopefully I make those mistakes now and don't make them in the game."
Despite the six camp interceptions, Bieniemy said he's not seeing Mahomes repeat any of his mistakes. They're all the result, he said, of different factors.
He also said he's convinced Mahomes won't throw another interception when such a big running lane is available.
"He even said, 'I could have run it,'" Bieniemy said. "I said, 'Listen, they all count the same. Six points is six points. If you can run it, go get it.'"

[DeadlyDynasty]

Tough schedule to start? Cry me a river, look at the Bills' first half of the schedule then get back to me

[Blake]

Oh there's no doubt Mahypes will be pulling up INTs but he'll also be piling up passing and running yards, playing a lot of come from behind football during that tough stretch

[SpursforSix]

Tough schedule to start? Cry me a river, look at the Bills' first half of the schedule then get back to me

Does the Bills schedule really matter?

[DeadlyDynasty]

Does the Bills schedule really matter?
In the big picture, does the Chiefs?

[DPG21920]

Tough schedule to start? Cry me a river, look at the Bills' first half of the schedule then get back to me

Look at the Bills team :lol. Schedule has nothing to do with it.

[SpursforSix]

In the big picture, does the Chiefs?

Yes, in the big picture of fantasy football.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Look at the Bills team :lol. Schedule has nothing to do with it.
Stick to basketball, you were always a poor NFL prognosticator, closet Charger fan

[DeadlyDynasty]

Yes, in the big picture of fantasy football.
What are your projections for Hammy Watkins this year?

[DPG21920]

Stick to basketball, you were always a poor NFL prognosticator, closet Charger fan

?I did really well in the NFL bet thread IIRC

[DPG21920]

Vegas has Bills over/under at 6. Over 6 is +135 and Under 6 is -155. I’m hammering that under.

[SpursforSix]

What are your projections for Hammy Watkins this year?

maybe like 60/800/5

[DeadlyDynasty]

Vegas has Bills over/under at 6. Over 6 is +135 and Under 6 is -155. I’m hammering that under.

Let's bet a G straight up for old times sake. I'm definitely seeing at least a push

[DPG21920]

Let's bet a G straight up for old times sake. I'm definitely seeing at least a push

I already have money on it, so won’t do a G, but Ill do $200 with you

[DeadlyDynasty]

I already have money on it, so won’t do a G, but Ill do $200 with you
Deal...how much have you already put on the under?

[Blake]

The NFL is such an 8-8 league across the board. I'd never put money on a line that close to 8.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Since we're already locked into the bet, just out of curiosity how do you see their schedule playing out?:



DATE
OPPONENT
TIME/RESULT



Sep 9 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/1/)
@Baltimore (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/BAL/baltimore-ravens)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)



Sep 16 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/2/)
L.A. Chargers (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/LAC/los-angeles-chargers)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)



Sep 23 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/3/)
@Minnesota (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/MIN/minnesota-vikings)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)



Sep 30 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/4/)
@Green Bay (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/GB/green-bay-packers)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)



Oct 7 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/5/)
Tennessee (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/TEN/tennessee-titans)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)



Oct 14 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/6/)
@Houston (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/HOU/houston-texans)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)



Oct 21 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/7/)
@Indianapolis (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/IND/indianapolis-colts)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)



Oct 29 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/8/)
New England (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/NE/new-england-patriots)
8:15 PM - ESPN



Nov 4 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/9/)
Chicago (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/CHI/chicago-bears)
1:00 PM - FOX



Nov 11 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/10/)
@N.Y. Jets (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/NYJ/new-york-jets)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)



Week 11
BYE




Nov 25 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/12/)
Jacksonville (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/JAC/jacksonville-jaguars)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)



Dec 2 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/13/)
@Miami (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/MIA/miami-dolphins)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)



Dec 9 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/14/)
N.Y. Jets (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/NYJ/new-york-jets)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)



Dec 16 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/15/)
Detroit (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/DET/detroit-lions)
1:00 PM - FOX



Dec 23 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/16/)
@New England (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/NE/new-england-patriots)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)



Dec 30 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/17/)
Miami (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/MIA/miami-dolphins)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)

[DeadlyDynasty]

Here's my picks



DATE
OPPONENT
TIME/RESULT



Sep 9 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/1/)
@Baltimore (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/BAL/baltimore-ravens)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)
L


Sep 16 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/2/)
L.A. Chargers (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/LAC/los-angeles-chargers)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)
W, Chargers historically suck ass in September, we sneak a W


Sep 23 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/3/)
@Minnesota (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/MIN/minnesota-vikings)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)
L


Sep 30 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/4/)
@Green Bay (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/GB/green-bay-packers)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)
L


Oct 7 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/5/)
Tennessee (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/TEN/tennessee-titans)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)
L, coin toss, but we lose a close one imo


Oct 14 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/6/)
@Houston (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/HOU/houston-texans)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)
L, assuming Watson is healthy of course


Oct 21 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/7/)
@Indianapolis (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/IND/indianapolis-colts)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)
L, only if Luck is healthy--otherwise it's a W


Oct 29 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/8/)
New England (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/NE/new-england-patriots)
8:15 PM - ESPN
L


Nov 4 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/9/)
Chicago (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/CHI/chicago-bears)
1:00 PM - FOX
W


Nov 11 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/10/)
@N.Y. Jets (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/NYJ/new-york-jets)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)
W, by this time they will have abandoned the vet QB's


Week 11
BYE




Nov 25 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/12/)
Jacksonville (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/JAC/jacksonville-jaguars)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)
W, Bills will have a Top-5 rushing D this year and I like this as a revenge game...close win and our one upset of the season. Coming off a bye too.


Dec 2 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/13/)
@Miami (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/MIA/miami-dolphins)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)
W, Miami just sucks and they will be in full tank tank mode


Dec 9 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/14/)
N.Y. Jets (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/NYJ/new-york-jets)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)
W


Dec 16 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/15/)
Detroit (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/DET/detroit-lions)
1:00 PM - FOX
W, Can't trust Detroit on the road late in the season


Dec 23 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/16/)
@New England (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/NE/new-england-patriots)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)
L


Dec 30 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/17/)
Miami (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/MIA/miami-dolphins)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)


W

8-8 imo, with a possibility of 7-9 or 9-7

[Darth_Pelican]

Here's my picks



DATE
OPPONENT
TIME/RESULT



Sep 9 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/1/)
@Baltimore (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/BAL/baltimore-ravens)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)
L


Sep 16 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/2/)
L.A. Chargers (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/LAC/los-angeles-chargers)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)
W, Chargers historically suck ass in September, we sneak a W


Sep 23 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/3/)
@Minnesota (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/MIN/minnesota-vikings)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)
L


Sep 30 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/4/)
@Green Bay (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/GB/green-bay-packers)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)
L


Oct 7 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/5/)
Tennessee (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/TEN/tennessee-titans)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)
L, coin toss, but we lose a close one imo


Oct 14 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/6/)
@Houston (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/HOU/houston-texans)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)
L


Oct 21 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/7/)
@Indianapolis (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/IND/indianapolis-colts)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)
L, only if Luck is healthy---otherwise it's a W


Oct 29 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/8/)
New England (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/NE/new-england-patriots)
8:15 PM - ESPN
L


Nov 4 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/9/)
Chicago (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/CHI/chicago-bears)
1:00 PM - FOX
W


Nov 11 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/10/)
@N.Y. Jets (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/NYJ/new-york-jets)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)
W, by this time they will have abandoned the vet QB's


Week 11
BYE




Nov 25 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/12/)
Jacksonville (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/JAC/jacksonville-jaguars)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)
W, Bills will have a Top-5 rushing D this year and I like this as a revenge game...close win and our one upset of the season. Coming off a bye too.


Dec 2 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/13/)
@Miami (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/MIA/miami-dolphins)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)
W, Miami just sucks and they will be in full tank tank mode


Dec 9 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/14/)
N.Y. Jets (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/NYJ/new-york-jets)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)
W


Dec 16 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/15/)
Detroit (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/DET/detroit-lions)
1:00 PM - FOX
W, Can't trust Detroit on the road late in the season


Dec 23 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/16/)
@New England (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/NE/new-england-patriots)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)
L


Dec 30 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/17/)
Miami (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/MIA/miami-dolphins)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)


W

8-8 imo, with a possibility of 7-9 or 9-7

I'm pulling for your Bills bro, but based on your above projection, there's no way a 1-7 team is going on a 6 game winning streak. A 1-7 start means half of the players are going to half-ass it the rest of the year, the fans will already have turned on the team, coaches, front office, etc., and the coaches are probably going to start giving reps to guys who weren't starters to begin the year.

[DeadlyDynasty]

I'm pulling for your Bills bro, but based on your above projection, there's no way a 1-7 team is going on a 6 game winning streak. A 1-7 start means half of the players are going to half-ass it the rest of the year, the fans will already have turned on the team, coaches, front office, etc., and the coaches are probably going to start giving reps to guys who weren't starters to begin the year.
If the L's are close, they won't give up...just think of SF and the Chargers last year. They had horrendous starts but never mailed it in. Plus, more looks for guys like Harrison Phillips, Josh Allen, Levi Wallace, Cam Phillips, Robert Foster,and Taron Johnson is a positive imo. We've pretty much purged our team of poisonous vets with shitty attitudes last year. Last purge left is Shaq Lawson (not really old enough to be a vet, but useless so far in regards to high draft pick)

[DPG21920]

Deal...how much have you already put on the under?

:tu 5

[DPG21920]

I didn’t even really look at the schedule in terms of win-loss.

1) QB situation is rough. Tyrod was not amazing, but he was good.

2) Shady situation is dicey on/off field at the moment and any slippage there results in issues.

3) Strengh of Schedule: It’s even worse than I think most people give credit for. Read an interesting article on it: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-way-everybody-measures-nfl-schedule-strength-its-wrong/

[DPG21920]

BAL: L

Chargers: L - Chargers are going to be very good this year as they were last year. They lost coin toss games to deflate their record and this won’t be a coin toss game.

Minny: L

GB: L

TEN: L

HOU: L

IND: L (could be a win)

NE: L

CHI: L (could be a win but CHI should be improved even if their record might not reflect it)

JETS: L (could be a win but JETS wont be awful. Might start slow but will get better as season goes on IMO).

BYE Week: L (j/k)

Jacksonville: L

Jets: W because it’s at home

DET: L

NE: L

MIA: W

Im thinking 2 wins and giving myself another 3 win buffer which I think would be optimistic IMO

[DeadlyDynasty]

BAL: L

Chargers: L - Chargers are going to be very good this year as they were last year. They lost coin toss games to deflate their record and this won’t be a coin toss game.

Minny: L

GB: L

TEN: L

HOU: L

IND: L (could be a win)

NE: L

CHI: L (could be a win but CHI should be improved even if their record might not reflect it)

JETS: L (could be a win but JETS wont be awful. Might start slow but will get better as season goes on IMO).

BYE Week: L (j/k)

Jacksonville: L

Jets: W because it’s at home

DET: L

NE: L

MIA: W

Im thinking 2 wins and giving myself another 3 win buffer which I think would be optimistic IMO
wtf?:lol

[Robz4000]

Since we're already locked into the bet, just out of curiosity how do you see their schedule playing out?:



DATE
OPPONENT
TIME/RESULT



Sep 9 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/1/)
@Baltimore (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/BAL/baltimore-ravens)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)



Sep 16 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/2/)
L.A. Chargers (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/LAC/los-angeles-chargers)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)



Sep 23 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/3/)
@Minnesota (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/MIN/minnesota-vikings)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)



Sep 30 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/4/)
@Green Bay (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/GB/green-bay-packers)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)



Oct 7 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/5/)
Tennessee (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/TEN/tennessee-titans)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)



Oct 14 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/6/)
@Houston (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/HOU/houston-texans)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)



Oct 21 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/7/)
@Indianapolis (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/IND/indianapolis-colts)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)



Oct 29 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/8/)
New England (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/NE/new-england-patriots)
8:15 PM - ESPN



Nov 4 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/9/)
Chicago (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/CHI/chicago-bears)
1:00 PM - FOX



Nov 11 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/10/)
@N.Y. Jets (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/NYJ/new-york-jets)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)



Week 11
BYE




Nov 25 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/12/)
Jacksonville (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/JAC/jacksonville-jaguars)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)



Dec 2 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/13/)
@Miami (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/MIA/miami-dolphins)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)



Dec 9 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/14/)
N.Y. Jets (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/NYJ/new-york-jets)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)



Dec 16 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/15/)
Detroit (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/DET/detroit-lions)
1:00 PM - FOX



Dec 23 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/16/)
@New England (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/NE/new-england-patriots)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)



Dec 30 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/17/)
Miami (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/MIA/miami-dolphins)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)




I'm not sure I see even 5 wins there. Chicago and NYJ are the only definite wins imo.

[SpursforSix]

wtf?:lol

Bless your heart.

[DPG21920]

wtf?:lol

I just don’t think BUF was truly a 9 win team. I think they were closer to a 6 win team and they got worse and have a pretty tough schedule. We shall see...

[chunticakes]

What are we betting on boys? I want in...

[DeadlyDynasty]

Bills just got Corey Coleman for a 2020 7th rounder. Helps a position in dire need. I'm tellin ya, this team is closer to 7-9/8-8 then 2-14 DPG. The front office made some of the ballsiest moves as soon as they walked in (traded/cut every big name talent on the roster), made some choice FA pickups, and took the best defensive player in the draft this year. If we can only stand pat on TT's-led 16ppg offense we'll be decent. Not a playoff team due to QB obviously, but our FO has made 1.5 years of shrewd business moves that would make the Spurs FO blush.

[Clipper Nation]

If the L's are close, they won't give up...just think of SF and the Chargers last year. They had horrendous starts but never mailed it in.
The Niners made a QB change. The Chargers' schedule got really easy after the first few weeks.

[spurraider21]

Bills just got Corey Coleman for a 2020 7th rounder. Helps a position in dire need. I'm tellin ya, this team is closer to 7-9/8-8 then 2-14 DPG. The front office made some of the ballsiest moves as soon as they walked in (traded/cut every big name talent on the roster), made some choice FA pickups, and took the best defensive player in the draft this year. If we can only stand pat on TT's-led 16ppg offense we'll be decent. Not a playoff team due to QB obviously, but our FO has made 1.5 years of shrewd business moves that would make the Spurs FO blush.
Depends on shady

[DPG21920]

Bills just got Corey Coleman for a 2020 7th rounder. Helps a position in dire need. I'm tellin ya, this team is closer to 7-9/8-8 then 2-14 DPG. The front office made some of the ballsiest moves as soon as they walked in (traded/cut every big name talent on the roster), made some choice FA pickups, and took the best defensive player in the draft this year. If we can only stand pat on TT's-led 16ppg offense we'll be decent. Not a playoff team due to QB obviously, but our FO has made 1.5 years of shrewd business moves that would make the Spurs FO blush.

Was a no risk trade but while WR was/is a problem, what good is that core if Shady falls off at all and with the QB play?

I’m betting on two things: Bills had an inflated record so it would not be a 7 game drop off as it seems & they are worse than last year.

Could be wrong, but even if they are the same as last year, I still think that was more of a 6 win team than 9 win team in reality.

[RGMCSE]

Patrick Mahomes sounds like Kermit the frog.

[Blake]

Patrick Mahomes sounds like Kermit the frog.

Or that he swallowed him

[Blake]

1030612114224734209

[spurraider21]

lol 4th round fantasy pick

[Avante]

What happened to it takes a few seasons to get a real read on a QB?

[Blake]

What happened to it takes a few seasons to get a real read on a QB?

No, I'm good with the one play. I've seen enough now.

[Blake]

lol 4th round fantasy pick

:hungry:

[Avante]

Mahomes to Hill the new Lamonica to Wells, Stabler to Branch, Staubach to Hayes, Marino to Duper.

[DeadlyDynasty]

1030612114224734209
and that would be good enough for me too...lol

Kid has a bright future

[chunticakes]

Bills just got Corey Coleman for a 2020 7th rounder. Helps a position in dire need. I'm tellin ya, this team is closer to 7-9/8-8 then 2-14 DPG. The front office made some of the ballsiest moves as soon as they walked in (traded/cut every big name talent on the roster), made some choice FA pickups, and took the best defensive player in the draft this year. If we can only stand pat on TT's-led 16ppg offense we'll be decent. Not a playoff team due to QB obviously, but our FO has made 1.5 years of shrewd business moves that would make the Spurs FO blush.

Hey Dedly what's the word on Shady this year? I might take a flier on him in fantasy but most people seem down on him for some reason. Is it the domestic BS? The oline?

[Holden_Caulfield]

Hey Dedly what's the word on Shady this year? I might take a flier on him in fantasy but most people seem down on him for some reason. Is it the domestic BS? The oline?
i just traded golden tate for shady last night. dude better not fall off

[Blake]

"Kansas City Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes is soaring up fantasy draft boards"

https://sports.yahoo.com/fantasy-football-adp-risers-fallers-headed-232116065.html

[spurraider21]

have fun with that

[Avante]

I can hear it now.....

Mahomes....Tyreek, just go.

I expect the fastest man in football Tyreek Hill to have his best season. NoBody can run with and he has a bazooka armed QB.

[SpursforSix]

Talk to me about Jack Reacher

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

Talk to me about Jack Reacher

Reacher ... cat goes about 5’7 165 but you know chiseled. sneaky quick. great stamina. really gets the drop on people with sneaky athleticism, angles and pressure points. one of those guys who’s not like the classic playground bully but you don’t want to accidentally mess with him. Tom Cruise very true to the author’s intentions

[Avante]

Talk to me about Jack Reacher

Football forum,ok?

[SpursforSix]

Football forum,ok?

Talk to me about why Hill is the fastest player in the NFL.

[SpursforSix]

Reacher ... cat goes about 5’7 165 but you know chiseled. sneaky quick. great stamina. really gets the drop on people with sneaky athleticism, angles and pressure points. one of those guys who’s not like the classic playground bully but you don’t want to accidentally mess with him. Tom Cruise very true to the author’s intentions

Agree. They could have done the obvious and cast someone like Kutcher or Channing Tatum. But neither has the edginess of Cruise.

[Avante]

SFS


Start a thread about Hill and I will totally break it down.

[SpursforSix]

SFS


Start a thread about Hill and I will totally break it down.

No thanks. You can either do it here or start your own thread.

[Avante]

No thanks. You can either do it here or start your own thread.

Why will Mahomes put up big fantasy numbers, now think, ok?

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

Agree. They could have done the obvious and cast someone like Kutcher or Channing Tatum. But neither has the edginess of Cruise.

first film since jerry maguire where cruise didnt have to heighten for the role

[spurraider21]

i get that in theory mahomes is a great fit for the offense. but lets see the kid play an NFL season...

[Blake]

i get that in theory mahomes is a great fit for the offense. but lets see the kid play an NFL season...

Neh that's no fun.

[Blake]

1033547662572879872

Me too, Patrick. Me too.

I'll enjoy it for one more week.

[Blake]

Patrick Mahomes sounds like Kermit the frog.

He'll be on cowherd show this afternoon.

[Avante]

According to the man himself he can throw a football 85 yards. I do believe that.

After watching him today, I came away (with little time) here's a kid who gets it. Not too anything.

Can he out throw Tyreek Hill?

[Blake]

According to the man himself he can throw a football 85 yards. I do believe that.

After watching him today, I came away (with little time) here's a kid who gets it. Not too anything.

Can he out throw Tyreek Hill?

Had he thrown a perfect spiral in the video above, yes he would have. ....according to him

[LkrFan]

Grew up just a few miles from me. I'm pulling for the kid.

Dude got a damn cannon :wow

[Avante]

Terry Bradshaw was a national caliber javelin thrower, he had a bazooka for an arm.

Daryl "The Mad Bomber" had a cannon.

Brett Farve strong arm.

JaMarcus Russell could throw 84 yards in the air.

Those are the first ones I think of when it comes to a strong armed QB.

[spurraider21]

shitting on the haters!

[Clipper Nation]

Mahomes is going to be a problem for the AFC. Maybe the next Favre?

[FrostKing]

http://proplayerinsiders.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/fat-fan-1.jpg

[Avante]

Cannon arm throwing to a....zoooooooooooooooommmmmmmmmmmm.

I'd only use Hill on punt returns if down in the 4th quarter,

It's always funny.

Avante...check out speedster Tyreek Hill tonight
Clipper Nation....hahahahaha he muffed it.

Hahahaha~~~

Another example of a guy not giving things time.

[Avante]

Seriously....

A guy who can throw an 80 pass....and....the fastest player in the NFL.

Why not at least....6-8....ok Tyreek, just run and I'll throw it.

There is nobody who can run with Hill.

Darly Lamonica was called THE MAD BOMBER, that was because of Texas Southern 9.4 sprinter Warren Wells. Yep....just go Warren, and he did.

[Blake]

3 first quarter tds vs the Steelers

Church is in session

[Brutal]

His TT stats were ridiculous.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Peyton Manning's 2013 record is definitely in jeopardy.

Chiefs look exactly like the 2013 Broncos, tbh... great QB, receivers, special teams, etc... terrible defense.

[DPG21920]

Deal...how much have you already put on the under?

Bills bruh

[DeadlyDynasty]

Bills bruh
Yeah...they're pretty bad

[Blake]

My sons,

St Patrick has 250 yards passing and 3TDs in the first half against the 9ers.

As it was written

[Kobe'sAchilles]

My sons,

St Patrick has 250 yards passing and 3TDs in the first half against the 9ers.

As it was written


Only silver lining to this beatdown is St. Patty is my QB in fantasy...

[Millennial_Messiah]

Andy Reid is so soft in 2nd halves though. Didn't go for the kill, went conservative all half, Mahomes gets no stats in the 2nd half and they barely hang on.

[Clipper Nation]

Wrong thread.

[Blake]

Andy Reid is so soft in 2nd halves though. Didn't go for the kill, went conservative all half, Mahomes gets no stats in the 2nd half and they barely hang on.

Yeah that 2nd half play calling sucked. They were getting primed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory

[spurraider21]

:lmao shitting on the doubters

:wakeup

[Millennial_Messiah]

Yeah that 2nd half play calling sucked. They were getting primed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory

just like the tennessee game, lulz.

[DPG21920]

Yeah...they're pretty bad

Of course they win vs Minny :lol. Definitely was not accounting for that in my projections. The bet just got a lot more interesting.

[benefactor]

He's the truth tbh

[pgardn]

Andy Reid calling plays for that kind of talent... perfect Storm.
Bad 2nd half play calling just got dunked on. That was a bunch of really good calls for an exceptional athlete.

All involved hit a home run.
Elway looking at the game seeing Mahomes and realizing holy shit, that’s me or better.
KC gets an Oline together, Watch out.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Andy Reid calling plays for that kind of talent... perfect Storm.
Bad 2nd half play calling just got dunked on. That was a bunch of really good calls for an exceptional athlete.

All involved hit a home run.
Elway looking at the game seeing Mahomes and realizing holy shit, that’s me or better.
KC gets an Oline together, Watch out.
Oline?? Try getting glass man back for starters, plus a corner or two and a better pass rusher.

[Blake]

He's the truth tbh

My sons they crucified him but after the 3rd quarter, St patrick rose again.

[Holden_Caulfield]

lets see how he fares against the jags Def. they havent had a dominant game filled with TOs yet this season

[FrostKing]

Chief fan meeting Mahomes in the locker room

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1/2018/09/30/16/4648410-0-image-a-61_1538319867231.jpg

[pgardn]

Oline?? Try getting glass man back for starters, plus a corner or two and a better pass rusher.

I’m talking O my friend.

He could end up winning very few big playoff games without a D.

[pgardn]

My sons they crucified him but after the 3rd quarter, St patrick rose again.

This could work out well for TT

[Blake]

This could work out well for TT

Minimal at best

[Blake]

1047591561985327104

:lmao

[pgardn]

Keep banging on Reid playcalling.
The guy goes for it and now he has a guy who can make it happen.
It has been ugly for Reid on occasion in the past, but the kid he has now is off the charts with talent. Let’s see how the brains work.

[pgardn]

Minimal at best

Yeah.

You will probably only get Ehlinger fullback/QB types wanting to go with Kliff.

[Blake]

Yeah.

You will probably only get Ehlinger fullback/QB types wanting to go with Kliff.

Pretty much. The 5 star QBs already know they're NFL bound so for the most part, they head to the blue blood schools.

Mahomes was a 3 star kid that was seen as a baseball player turned late football player project.

[look_at_g_shred]

lol rounds 3-4 for an unproven qb
Damn son we were so wrong

[AaronY]

Chief fan meeting Mahomes in the locker room

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1/2018/09/30/16/4648410-0-image-a-61_1538319867231.jpg


I can't believe this is an attempt at humor but it is

[Mark Celibate]

Always thought Mahomes was going to be either really good (albeit not this good right away) or flame out quickly due to his high risk/high reward style of play

I'm happy to see him land in a spot where he's surrounded by talent and great coaching to make it easier on him. That's the least he deserves after having the shittiest defense in the country year after year at Texas Tech

[JohnnyD]

If ever a guy was a natural, here it is.

[Blake]

If ever a guy was a natural, here it is.

If ever a guy followed me around humping my leg, here it is

[JohnnyD]

We have never seen anything like this before. The kid is an alien.

[Darth_Pelican]

Yeah he piled up a bunch of yards and turned the ball over 5 times, which ultimately led his team to lose. But the media will ignore the turnovers and the casual fans will eat it up.

[JohnnyD]

Yeah he piled up a bunch of yards and turned the ball over 5 times, which ultimately led his team to lose. But the media will ignore the turnovers and the casual fans will eat it up.

The kid has played in how many games? Compare this season to anyones else first season as a starter. How many turnovers did Goff have.

I saw some amazing throws how about you?

[JohnnyD]

There has never been any QB in pro football history more impressive in their first season as a starter. He is far superior to everyone.

A 700 yard game while at TT.

[Will Hunting]

Here's my picks



DATE
OPPONENT
TIME/RESULT



Sep 9 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/1/)
@Baltimore (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/BAL/baltimore-ravens)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)
L


Sep 16 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/2/)
L.A. Chargers (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/LAC/los-angeles-chargers)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)
W, Chargers historically suck ass in September, we sneak a W


Sep 23 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/3/)
@Minnesota (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/MIN/minnesota-vikings)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)
L


Sep 30 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/4/)
@Green Bay (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/GB/green-bay-packers)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)
L


Oct 7 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/5/)
Tennessee (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/TEN/tennessee-titans)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)
L, coin toss, but we lose a close one imo


Oct 14 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/6/)
@Houston (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/HOU/houston-texans)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)
L, assuming Watson is healthy of course


Oct 21 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/7/)
@Indianapolis (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/IND/indianapolis-colts)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)
L, only if Luck is healthy--otherwise it's a W


Oct 29 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/8/)
New England (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/NE/new-england-patriots)
8:15 PM - ESPN
L


Nov 4 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/9/)
Chicago (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/CHI/chicago-bears)
1:00 PM - FOX
W


Nov 11 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/10/)
@N.Y. Jets (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/NYJ/new-york-jets)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)
W, by this time they will have abandoned the vet QB's


Week 11
BYE




Nov 25 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/12/)
Jacksonville (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/JAC/jacksonville-jaguars)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)
W, Bills will have a Top-5 rushing D this year and I like this as a revenge game...close win and our one upset of the season. Coming off a bye too.


Dec 2 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/13/)
@Miami (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/MIA/miami-dolphins)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)
W, Miami just sucks and they will be in full tank tank mode


Dec 9 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/14/)
N.Y. Jets (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/NYJ/new-york-jets)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)
W


Dec 16 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/15/)
Detroit (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/DET/detroit-lions)
1:00 PM - FOX
W, Can't trust Detroit on the road late in the season


Dec 23 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/16/)
@New England (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/NE/new-england-patriots)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)
L


Dec 30 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/scoreboard/all/2018/regular/17/)
Miami (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/MIA/miami-dolphins)
1:00 PM - CBS (https://www.cbs.com/all-access/live-tv/?ftag=AAM-00-10ade6f)


W

8-8 imo, with a possibility of 7-9 or 9-7
Barring something unexpected, the Bills will be exactly where DeadlyDynasty (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=15365) said they’d be after the Jacksonville game.

It’d be pretty impressive to accurately predict a team starting off as shitty as the Bills did while finishing close to .500

[DeadlyDynasty]

Barring something unexpected, the Bills will be exactly where DeadlyDynasty (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=15365) said they’d be after the Jacksonville game.

It’d be pretty impressive to accurately predict a team starting off as shitty as the Bills did while finishing close to .500

I'll be at the Bills-Dolphins game next week (hopefully), and if they win that one DPG might as well paypal me then.

[Will Hunting]

I'll be at the Bills-Dolphins game next week (hopefully), and if they win that one DPG might as well paypal me then.
I think losing to the Colts might have broken Miami’s hope at a playoff chance so they might just be tanking it from here on out.

[Blake]

My sons, St Patrick performed yet another miracle

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[JohnnyMax]

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[DeadlyDynasty]

DPG21920, Bill have 5Ws with 2 games left...what were our terms again?

[spurraider21]

Vegas has Bills over/under at 6. Over 6 is +135 and Under 6 is -155. I’m hammering that under.


Let's bet a G straight up for old times sake. I'm definitely seeing at least a push


I already have money on it, so won’t do a G, but Ill do $200 with you


Deal...how much have you already put on the under?

[SuperCam]

glad we could help you win mvp tbh :tu

[DPG21920]

DPG21920, Bill have 5Ws with 2 games left...what were our terms again?

6 is a push. Under and I win. 7+ you win.

[DPG21920]

Stick to basketball, you were always a poor NFL prognosticator, closet Charger fan

Also go Chargers :lol

[DPG21920]

DPG21920, Bill have 5Ws with 2 games left...what were our terms again?

This is it! A win and you push. A loss and it’s Santa DPG time. Tbh, nevermind. You don’t owe me regardless. I thought Bills would be 4 wins or less and they had some good wins.

God bless you my friend and hope all is well. Even if BUF loses we are good :tu

[Pelicans78]

He should win MVP.

[Ghazi]

He should win MVP.

No love for Breesus? ;)

[Millennial_Messiah]

He should win MVP.

I think it has to be Brees, he's pretty much guaranteed the best record in the league and he has like the best completion percentage ever.

[Ghazi]

Brees will have the better record, completion %, passer rating, less interceptions.

Mahomes will have way more TDs, yards per pass attempt, quarterbacking a better offense, etc. and its not as if his completion % and passer rating are bad, they're really good.

and both are gonna get the #1 seed in their conference.

I really think this is close... I wouldn't be mad either way.

[HarlemHeat37]

Brees will have the better record, completion %, passer rating, less interceptions.

Mahomes will have way more TDs, yards per pass attempt, quarterbacking a better offense, etc. and its not as if his completion % and passer rating are bad, they're really good.

and both are gonna get the #1 seed in their conference.

I really think this is close... I wouldn't be mad either way.

:lol record and completion % shouldn't matter, at all.. Mahomes' team lost 3 games where they scored 30 or more, 2 of them where they scored 40+..

He's EASILY the MVP, but Brees will win it as a lifetime achievement award..

[Ghazi]

I think you right Harlem

;)

[Blake]

Brees will have the better record, completion %, passer rating, less interceptions.

Mahomes will have way more TDs, yards per pass attempt, quarterbacking a better offense, etc. and its not as if his completion % and passer rating are bad, they're really good.

and both are gonna get the #1 seed in their conference.

I really think this is close... I wouldn't be mad either way.

Brees also has a better defense behind him

[Darth_Pelican]

Brees should have won it in 2009 and was a coin flip in 2011, so I wouldn’t feel bad if he wins it this season.

[Mark Celibate]

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that's insane, but also really stupid. What's the advantage of a no look pass in football?

[Millennial_Messiah]

Brees should have won it in 2009 and was a coin flip in 2011, so I wouldn’t feel bad if he wins it this season.

Wasn't a coin flip in 2011. He was pretty damn unstoppable, but Rodgers was literally above God tier. That is, until the divisional round of the playoffs when he ran into the only front four in the NFL that could get to him without blitzing. And Brees got beat by the white version of Dak Prescott, lol.

[Pelicans78]

Wasn't a coin flip in 2011. He was pretty damn unstoppable, but Rodgers was literally above God tier. That is, until the divisional round of the playoffs when he ran into the only front four in the NFL that could get to him without blitzing. And Brees got beat by the white version of Dak Prescott, lol.

To be fair it was Gregg Williams defense that choked the game away while Brees put up huge numbers on the road against the top defense in the league that season. But Rodgers deserved MVP that season. Brees was definitely screwed in 2009. He should have won MVP that year. But Mahomes should win this year. The Chiefs offense is the best unit in the league. Their defense is atrocious.

[spurraider21]

Brees should have won it in 2009 and was a coin flip in 2011, so I wouldn’t feel bad if he wins it this season.
lol lifetime achievement award

[Will Hunting]

Wasn't a coin flip in 2011. He was pretty damn unstoppable, but Rodgers was literally above God tier. That is, until the divisional round of the playoffs when he ran into the only front four in the NFL that could get to him without blitzing. And Brees got beat by the white version of Dak Prescott, lol.
What do Alex Smith, Case Keenum, Rex Grossman and Tarvaris Jackson have in common?

They’ve all won a playoff game against Drew Brees :lol

[Millennial_Messiah]

To be fair it was Gregg Williams defense that choked the game away while Brees put up huge numbers on the road against the top defense in the league that season. But Rodgers deserved MVP that season. Brees was definitely screwed in 2009. He should have won MVP that year. But Mahomes should win this year. The Chiefs offense is the best unit in the league. Their defense is atrocious.

Brees was terrible against the 49ers in that first half. They went down like 17-0 quickly before special teams brought them back into the game. Brees didn't really get going until late in the 3rd quarter.

Not to take too much away from Mahomes, but their offense is very schematic and they run a ton of screens in KC. Not really hard for a QB to execute. The 3rd & 20 conversion with the game on the line to knock the Steelers out of the playoffs this past weekend, that sold it for me on Brees.


Also love how, if the Saints go on to win the championship, that the Cowboys will have defeated them in both of their otherwise immortal years :tu :toast

[Darth_Pelican]

What do Alex Smith, Case Keenum, Rex Grossman and Tarvaris Jackson have in common?

They’ve all won a playoff game against Drew Brees :lol

The Saints D blew 2 4th quarter leads in the final 4 minutes of the game to lose against Alex Smith. Minnesota miracle against Keenum. He did shit the bed against the Bears elite D in the freezing weather. :lol He never lost a playoff game to Tavaris Jackson.

[Pelicans78]

What do Alex Smith, Case Keenum, Rex Grossman and Tarvaris Jackson have in common?

They’ve all won a playoff game against Drew Brees :lol

Brady lost home playoff games to Mark Sanchez and Flacco and lost on the road to Jake Plummer.

[Will Hunting]

Brady lost home playoff games to Mark Sanchez and Flacco and lost on the road to Jake Plummer.
The home playoff game to sanchez is definitely a stain on his legacy, but the Flacco + Plummer teams were superior teams.

[spurraider21]

eli rang twice off of brady

[Will Hunting]

eli rang twice off of brady
Neat. I think those are well discussed as stains on his legacy. For whatever reason Brees never gets criticism for his legacy of losing to inferior quarterbacks in the playoffs.

Brady also never lost a playoff game to a 7-9 team :lol

[Ghazi]

My nigga Brady is 27-10 in the playoffs.

3 losses to Peyton, 2 to Eli, 1 to Jake the Snake, 1 to Sanchez, 2 to Flacco, 1 to Foles,

Brees is 7-6

[Chucho]

Mahomes bungled a sure fire MVP. If they lose again this week and the Colts and/or Chargers too, then it becomes very, very interesting. And of course Brees' 1999 Karl Malone MVP type consideration.

[Will Hunting]

My nigga Brady is 27-10 in the playoffs.

3 losses to Peyton, 2 to Eli, 1 to Jake the Snake, 1 to Sanchez, 2 to Flacco, 1 to Foles,

Brees is 7-6
He also never lost to a.....wait for it.....7-9 team in the playoffs :lmao

[Millennial_Messiah]

He also never lost to a.....wait for it.....7-9 team in the playoffs :lmao
to be fair, the defense gave up well over 40 points to an offense that barely moved the ball all season

[spurraider21]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6tiK8xGLMM

[JohnnyMax]

This voting confirms Mahomes is a lock for MVP.

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[Blake]

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Sick

[Blake]

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Good idea but why does this look like it was shot using an iPhone 4?

6/10

[JohnnyMax]

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[HarlemHeat37]

Well deserved, one of the most impressive seasons of all-time..

[FrostKing]

Kordel Stewart winning MVPs

Today's NFL

[midnightpulp]

Kordel Stewart winning MVPs

Today's NFL

I don't think he's much of a happy feet scrambler. Son of Baseball player, too. So the brain is there. You should appreciate that.

[HarlemHeat37]

I don't think he's much of a happy feet scrambler. Son of Baseball player, too. So the brain is there. You should appreciate that.

He's a pass-first QB with scrambling ability(like Rodgers was), I doubt FrostKing has even watched him:lol

[Blake]

Kordel Stewart winning MVPs

Today's NFL

Lol dumb

[Blake]

"..Quarterback Patrick Mahomes: It sounds crazy to say the reigning MVP’s stock is going up, but he’s come into camp in better shape, in full command of the offense and reportedly has improved footwork and accuracy. Don’t expect regression. Those who are actually watching already see that Mahomes is getting better — which is insane...."

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2019/8/2/20707331/the-chiefs-stock-report-whos-up-and-whos-down-after-one-week-at-camp

I know they're homers but based on college history I believe St Pat will still get 5000 yards 45+ TDs again this year if healthy

[Blake]

Really looking forward to seeing Mahomes’ development this year. If he ever starts reading defenses at an elite level, he’s going to be unstoppable.

Last year I still saw him do some of the same shit he'd do in college like go for the 50 yard bomb off his back foot for an incompletion instead of the easy 6-7 yard check down.

He's lucky he didn't have more picks than he did tbh

[IronMexican]

Imagine putting all your hope and dreams into some system babby

So happy my team has Derek Carr.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Last year I still saw him do some of the same shit he'd do in college like go for the 50 yard bomb off his back foot for an incompletion instead of the easy 6-7 yard check down.

He's lucky he didn't have more picks than he did tbh
Aaron Rodgers does the same thing tbh.

[look_at_g_shred]

3-4 rounds are you serious? This is a guy you take in like the 14-16 range.
Last year I drafted him in round 13

[chunticakes]

Last year I drafted him in round 13

Who is the sleeper this year?

[Blake]

Last year I drafted him in round 13

Well done

[Blake]

Who is the sleeper this year?

You mean QB?

I think Goff is really being valued too low. If I can't get st Patrick then I think I'll wait it out through late rounds to get him.

[look_at_g_shred]

Who is the sleeper this year?
You are in the fantasy league right? Not telling you :lol

[spurraider21]

You mean QB?

I think Goff is really being valued too low. If I can't get st Patrick then I think I'll wait it out through late rounds to get him.
lamar jackson imo

shitty passers who are decent runners still have fantasy value. tyrod taylor a couple of years ago was a strong play :lol

its why russell wilson was always a steal in his early years. people slept on him because his passing volume was low, and yet he ended up a top 3-5 qb nearly every year.

lamar jackson is a terrible passer, but he runs more than anybody at the position... it wont be pretty, but he'll get regular fantasy points

[SpursforSix]

Who is the sleeper this year?

Joe Flacco

[Blake]

lamar jackson imo

shitty passers who are decent runners still have fantasy value. tyrod taylor a couple of years ago was a strong play :lol

its why russell wilson was always a steal in his early years. people slept on him because his passing volume was low, and yet he ended up a top 3-5 qb nearly every year.

lamar jackson is a terrible passer, but he runs more than anybody at the position... it wont be pretty, but he'll get regular fantasy points

He concerns me now that there's plenty of tape on him.

Also RG3 style injury potential.

Pass, imo.

[FrostKing]

Chiefs have a child abuser

What a scumbag team

[spurraider21]

He concerns me now that there's plenty of tape on him.

Also RG3 style injury potential.

Pass, imo.
he's a much much worse passer than RG3 was. but im not picking him because i think he's going to substantially improve as a passer. as long as he remains an active runner, he will have underrated fantasy value. he only started 7 games last year and still ended up with 700 rushing yards, that's nuts. i dont think he's gonna average 100 rushing yards per start, but even if he averages 60, thats basically a free touchdown per game, fantasy wise. even shitty running qb's usually turn in solid fantasy value

even tebow was a respectable qb play in a season where he only threw 12 TDs. tyler thigpen was a top 10 fantasy qb in 2008 because he ran for 400 yards and 3 TD's

josh allen and lamar jackson arent qb's id want for my real life team, but they're likely going to be solid fantasy plays this year

[Blake]

Chiefs have a child abuser

What a scumbag team

What do you care?

[Blake]

he's a much much worse passer than RG3 was. but im not picking him because i think he's going to substantially improve as a passer. as long as he remains an active runner, he will have underrated fantasy value. he only started 7 games last year and still ended up with 700 rushing yards, that's nuts. i dont think he's gonna average 100 rushing yards per start, but even if he averages 60, thats basically a free touchdown per game, fantasy wise. even shitty running qb's usually turn in solid fantasy value

even tebow was a respectable qb play in a season where he only threw 12 TDs. tyler thigpen was a top 10 fantasy qb in 2008 because he ran for 400 yards and 3 TD's

josh allen and lamar jackson arent qb's id want for my real life team, but they're likely going to be solid fantasy plays this year

Dude only had one 200 yard passing effort. He also averaged 4.7 ypc.

More often than not, Lamar type QBs are one and done flashes in the pan. Defenses this year are gonna stack that box.

I guess if I drafted my QB1 real late I wouldn't mind taking him as an early season backup plan but I can totally see him getting benched or injured by mid November.

[FrostKing]

What do you care?
You have no moral compass in regards to your favorite ball bouncers huh

[Blake]

You have no moral compass in regards to your favorite ball bouncers huh

If he abused a kid he needs to be in jail. If he's not in jail then go back to work entertaining us.

It's about that simple for me regarding pro sports.

And for a guy that hates the NFL you spend waaaay too much time here

[spurraider21]

Dude only had one 200 yard passing effort. He also averaged 4.7 ypc.

More often than not, Lamar type QBs are one and done flashes in the pan. Defenses this year are gonna stack that box.

I guess if I drafted my QB1 real late I wouldn't mind taking him as an early season backup plan but I can totally see him getting benched or injured by mid November.
Ravens were the most run heavy team in the nfl and had no passing threats. Teams were already loading the box

[Blake]

Ravens were the most run heavy team in the nfl and had no passing threats. Teams were already loading the box

True. I still tend to stay away from run first pass second QBs especially in the second year.

We'll see

[SpursforSix]

True. I still tend to stay away from run first pass second QBs especially in the second year.

We'll see

Same. And with Jackson, I also worry that he's not built to take many hits.

[Sir Johnny]

Never ben more impressed with a young QB than I am with this kid, he is the total package. Mobile, rocket arm, has finesse when needed, smart, good attitude, yep, has it all.

There is no reason ro see anything any different in his future, he's not going to regress. Not saying another 5000/50 season but over 4000/30 no problem.

Mahomes to Hill right there with Lamonica to Wells, Namath to Maynard when it comes to long ranch TD's.

[SpursforSix]

https://i.imgur.com/nA2pjd7.gif

[Darth_Pelican]

https://i.imgur.com/nA2pjd7.gif

:lmao

[i'm_still_beta]

https://i.imgur.com/nA2pjd7.gif
:lmao:rollin

[i'm_still_beta]

Never ben more impressed with a young QB than I am with this kid, he is the total package. Mobile, rocket arm, has finesse when needed, smart, good attitude, yep, has it all.

There is no reason ro see anything any different in his future, he's not going to regress. Not saying another 5000/50 season but over 4000/30 no problem.

Mahomes to Hill right there with Lamonica to Wells, Namath to Maynard when it comes to long ranch TD's.
Good post btw

[look_at_g_shred]

Never ben more impressed with a young QB than I am with this kid, he is the total package. Mobile, rocket arm, has finesse when needed, smart, good attitude, yep, has it all.

There is no reason ro see anything any different in his future, he's not going to regress. Not saying another 5000/50 season but over 4000/30 no problem.

Mahomes to Hill right there with Lamonica to Wells, Namath to Maynard when it comes to long ranch TD's.
Idk, i'm more of a ketchup TD guy myself

[FrostKing]

If he abused a kid he needs to be in jail. If he's not in jail then go back to work entertaining us.

It's about that simple for me regarding pro sports.

And for a guy that hates the NFL you spend waaaay too much time here
Sad. Very little moral compass. But I guess that goes without saying given your political leaning

[Blake]

Sad. Very little moral compass. But I guess that goes without saying given your political leaning

Why aren't you crying out for law enforcement to arrest him instead of posting on the NFL forum page?

Which you hate?

[FrostKing]

Why aren't you crying out for law enforcement to arrest him instead of posting on the NFL forum page?

Which you hate?
Even if he didn't commit that crime, just look at his nappy ass. You spend your free time watching and celebrating that shit?

[Blake]

Even if he didn't commit that crime, just look at his nappy ass. You spend your free time watching and celebrating that shit?

that went from "child abuser" to "just look at him" really fast. :lol

Why do you spend your free time in this forum?

[Sir Johnny]

Even if he didn't commit that crime, just look at his nappy ass. You spend your free time watching and celebrating that shit?

I have never paid much attention to any athletes private life, yep.....simply don't care. BUT.....this one did get to me, you cannot harm a kid. BUT....it appears not enought proof that was the situation was found.

Tyreek Hill is the fastest olayer in the NFL, and if not for track he really could run pro track, he is legit world class. I like all fans want to see this guy in action. I first picked up on him in HS when he ran a 20.14 200m, the second fastest ever by a HS kid.

[Blake]

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Lol salty. Too bad he didn't win 33% of Mahomes MVPs.

[Mitch]

Dude is impressive, tbh. If the status doesn't get to his head down the line skys the limit. Can't wait to see how hell fair against the pats defense later on

[FrostKing]

1176323299120504833

Lol salty. Too bad he didn't win 33% of Mahomes MVPs.
Aikman battled Farve and Young. Mahomes is battling some scrub named Lamar Jackson and 40 year old Brady.

[Blake]

Aikman battled Farve and Young. Mahomes is battling some scrub named Lamar Jackson and 40 year old Brady.

Lol the ol era argument

K, name the era that Aikman wins an MVP with his best season

[FrostKing]

Lol the ol era argument

K, name the era that Aikman wins an MVP with his best season
Now. His numbers would triple.

[Blake]

Now. His numbers would triple.

Lol sure they would

[leemajors]

i'm sure mahomes would probably trade that mvp in for a super bowl ring in a heartbeat.

[Blake]

i'm sure mahomes would probably trade that mvp in for a super bowl ring in a heartbeat.

Yeah if you have to choose one, I think you go with the Super Bowl.

But I wonder if Eli would trade in one of his SBs for an MVP

[phxspurfan]

Yeah if you have to choose one, I think you go with the Super Bowl.

But I wonder if Eli would trade in one of his SBs for an MVP

Absolutely if you ask him now. No one wants to go out the way he's going out. He was a badass with those talented Giants teams of the late 2000s, and now that team is gutted and he's old and slow.

[Clipper Nation]

Lol the ol era argument

K, name the era that Aikman wins an MVP with his best season

Mahomes would be a star in any era, but you're delusional if you don't see how passing stats have been inflated in this era.

As for Aikman: people have spent most of this decade pretending that Struggle Wilson is a franchise QB and an MVP candidate just for managing the game on mega-stacked teams. I don't see how Aikman couldn't do the same in today's NFL.

[Blake]

Mahomes would be a star in any era, but you're delusional if you don't see how passing stats have been inflated in this era.

As for Aikman: people have spent most of this decade pretending that Struggle Wilson is a franchise QB and an MVP candidate just for managing the game on mega-stacked teams. I don't see how Aikman couldn't do the same in today's NFL.

He was never a leader in passing stats in his own era, other than a nice QBR.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Mahomes would be a star in any era, but you're delusional if you don't see how passing stats have been inflated in this era.

As for Aikman: people have spent most of this decade pretending that Struggle Wilson is a franchise QB and an MVP candidate just for managing the game on mega-stacked teams. I don't see how Aikman couldn't do the same in today's NFL.
yeah I think Wilson with that fat salary hit with all the guaranteed money, and Seattle is beginning to show their true colors. 2 razor thin wins against bottom feeder AFC North trash, and then a beatdown at home against a good team that's missing their HOF QB. Seattle's time is over.

[Blake]

yeah I think Wilson with that fat salary hit with all the guaranteed money, and Seattle is beginning to show their true colors. 2 razor thin wins against bottom feeder AFC North trash, and then a beatdown at home against a good team that's missing their HOF QB. Seattle's time is over.

That's how the league is running with this salary cap.

You get a young QB that can play well on the rookie deal and you're good. Once the QB gets paid the team goes to shit

[Millennial_Messiah]

That's how the league is running with this salary cap.

You get a young QB that can play well on the rookie deal and you're good. Once the QB gets paid the team goes to shit
then again, Seattle was in a lose-lose situation because Thomas wanted out, Chancellor/Sherman were rapidly declining, and the DL starters were really old... they couldn't really keep that defense together if they wanted to, even if they traded Wilson.

[Blake]

then again, Seattle was in a lose-lose situation because Thomas wanted out, Chancellor/Sherman were rapidly declining, and the DL starters were really old... they couldn't really keep that defense together if they wanted to, even if they traded Wilson.

Being strapped for cash doesn't help getting nice free agents to replace those guys.

It's not just him. The Ravens slid, Packers, and the Rams will be next

[Millennial_Messiah]

Being strapped for cash doesn't help getting nice free agents to replace those guys.

It's not just him. The Ravens slid, Packers, and the Rams will be next

Ravens were already going to be a problem because of the old age of their defense. Guys retired and there weren't guys available that were as good as Lewis or Reed available in the draft or FA obviously. Other guys like Boldin were just too old and expensive to even be worthwile.

Packers have always been a QB and WR heavy team dating back to the early 90s. They've never been a big spending team, especially on defense. They don't like to buy guys.

Seahawks were actually on the young side of their prime, but hotheads prevailed and the "legion of boom" didn't really like Wilson's camp, so that was essentially a Shaq and Kobe early 00s Lakers situation anyway.

A lot of different situations, I think the Rams contend for awhile with McVay's innovativeness, but he's not much of an analytics coach so he might get phased out in a few years tbh. I think Shanahan is superior despite his big gaffe in SB 51 and the 49ers will rule that division before too long.

[spurraider21]

i'm sure mahomes would probably trade that mvp in for a super bowl ring in a heartbeat.
sure, but the latter is substantially more team dependent, so its a weird way to compare individuals.