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rmt
07-08-2018, 06:45 PM
Big Labor pursued a disingenuous strategy to circumvent 2014’s Harris ruling. No longer.

The Supreme Court’s Janus v. AFSCME decision barred public-sector labor unions from forcing non-members to pay agency fees. What is less well-known is that the decision also mandated prior consent to any fee payments — a so-called “opt-in” requirement that had been missing from the Court’s 2014 opinion in Harris v. Quinn, a case that applied the same forced-fee prohibition to unions representing a special sub-category of public-sector workers.

Before Harris, the unions had been collecting dues from workers, presuming them to be members — unless those workers “opted out” by written request, in which case they still had to pay fees as non-members. Many unions continued this practice after Harris, even presuming that non-members had consented to continue paying fees unless and until they opted out of those separately. This post-Harris union behavior left many workers ignorant of their right to resign and stop paying dues and non-member fees, in effect defying the will of the Court.

The sub-category of unions addressed in Harris comprises “partial public employees” (PPEs) such as home health aides and in-home child-care providers. They are private-sector workers, but they are paid using state benefit funds, and thus in some states they are dubiously considered public employees for collective-bargaining purposes. Because of the peculiar nature of PPE unions and the fact that the state automatically deducted dues and fees from workers’ paychecks, many workers did not even know they had been unionized. The opt-out procedure didn’t require the unions to enlighten them, and the unions didn’t. In fact, they did the opposite, and much more, in order preserve the flow of dues and fees into union coffers...

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/07/supreme-court-ruling-janus-case-no-more-opt-out-rules-for-unions/

boutons_deux
07-08-2018, 07:56 PM
Capital DIVIDES and FUCKS Labor, assisted by oligarchy's "politicians/whores in robes"

rmt
07-08-2018, 08:11 PM
Capital DIVIDES and FUCKS Labor, assisted by oligarchy's "politicians/whores in robes"



You don't see anything wrong in what above union did? especially to the home health aides and in-home child-care providers - keeping them in the dark, blocking release of the list?

boutons_deux
07-08-2018, 08:22 PM
You don't see anything wrong in what above union did? especially to the home health aides and in-home child-care providers - keeping them in the dark, blocking release of the list?

any so-called deception was offset by the Union fighting for the union members.

Oligarchy now is dividing union members against non-union colleagues are free-riders

You don't see anything wrong with Capital fucking over Labor?

spurraider21
07-08-2018, 08:30 PM
activist judges

rmt
07-08-2018, 08:35 PM
any so-called deception was offset by the Union fighting for the union members.

Oligarchy now is dividing union members against non-union colleagues are free-riders

You don't see anything wrong with Capital fucking over Labor?

amazing what happens when people have a choice. so what happens when Capital is we the taxpayers.

boutons_deux
07-08-2018, 08:50 PM
amazing what happens when people have a choice. so what happens when Capital is we the taxpayers.

Capital pushing 50M into or near poverty don't leave them much "freedom to choose"

taxpayers aren't Capital, they are powerless suckers whose taxes are redistributed upward to Capital.

Goddamn, you're fucking stupid.

Kim Jong-il
07-08-2018, 09:47 PM
amazing what happens when people have a choice. so what happens when Capital is we the taxpayers.
Shut up, you stupid Jamaican gook

rmt
07-08-2018, 09:55 PM
Capital pushing 50M into or near poverty don't leave them much "freedom to choose"

taxpayers aren't Capital, they are powerless suckers whose taxes are redistributed upward to Capital.

Goddamn, you're fucking stupid.

I mean when the unions are public and the Capital are the taxpayers.

Freedom to choose - I'm referring to the "Contrast this with the experience of SEIU 775’s sister union representing child-care providers in Washington, SEIU 925: It adopted an opt-in policy immediately after Harris and lost 60 percent of its membership over the next two years."

boutons_deux
07-09-2018, 07:02 AM
I mean when the unions are public and the Capital are the taxpayers.

Freedom to choose - I'm referring to the "Contrast this with the experience of SEIU 775’s sister union representing child-care providers in Washington, SEIU 925: It adopted an opt-in policy immediately after Harris and lost 60 percent of its membership over the next two years."

scummy free riders, and child care, eg in Seattle, can cost as much as year in college, and even cost more than a poor person can earn, keeping poor women at home.

adult countries provide public health care so poor people can go to work. Just another way USA Capital screws Labor.