Shams: Spurs Finalizing Deal to Re-Sign Bryn Forbes

[MannyIsGod]

Please, guaranteed money will help him with the confidence to succeed, maybe a player option would be appropriate

lmao

[Mal]

No way this is above league minimum, guaranteed for more than a year.

[baseline bum]

No way this is above league minimum, guaranteed for more than a year.

This is the front office that gave Gasol $48 million.

[Dre_7]

:lol

Glad someone got it!

[exstatic]

What is this I don't even

:lol

[ducks]

when are the figures coming out!

[siraulo23]

:lmao

[DAF86]

Glad someone got it!

Wasn't really that difficult to get, tbh. :lol

[slick'81]

:lol

[Dre_7]

Wasn't really that difficult to get, tbh. :lol

Well, I meant I was glad someone found it funny, more so than understood it.

[TD 21]

I'm guessing it's 2/$4M. Re-signing him is only somewhat justifiable if, 1) Mills is included in a Leonard trade, 2) He's behind every guard on the roster and is basically just an insurance policy . . . unfortunately, I have no confidence in both of those things happening.

More likely, it's a waste of a roster spot, further buries Walker and we'll be seeing plenty of lineups where there's multiple undersized, relatively unathletic guards together, who can't create or play defense.

[DPG21920]

All due respect DPG, you are one of the only few (SAgirl along with a couple others) that actually cited your rationale. Otherwise, it's just been a toxic stew of breathless idiocy.

Fair enough - I think I’m fine reading into what people mean without them taking the time to explain things like I do, but yeah, I get it.

[superbigtime]

Terrible. I don't get this at all. So what if he is marginally the best 3pt %age player on the team. he is clearly low talent low IQ and unathletic. This guy is Nothing but a liability. Complete vomit.

[coachmac87]

He shot 37% from the three, league average is 36%.


Yes he’s also All-Defensive Team...

11M is a good contract..

[raybies]

some players are good for the season and some are good for the playoffs. If this is for the minimum or near it I have no problem with him. He knows the system and has won us games. It's easy to conclude he'll get better with his shooting the more comfortable he gets. As a 3rd string option you can go a lot worse. He's a good spark off the bench.

[cd021]

What is the point of Covington at $11 million when they wouldn't pay Fathead $9 million?

Covington is a better player, including being a much better shooter. According to reports, PATFO wants both him and Saric in return for Kawhi.

[raybies]

I'm guessing it's 2/$4M. Re-signing him is only somewhat justifiable if, 1) Mills is included in a Leonard trade, 2) He's behind every guard on the roster and is basically just an insurance policy . . . unfortunately, I have no confidence in both of those things happening.

More likely, it's a waste of a roster spot, further buries Walker and we'll be seeing plenty of lineups where there's multiple undersized, relatively unathletic guards together, who can't create or play defense.
He's gonna spend a year in Austin regardless.

[exstatic]

He shot 37% from the three, league average is 36%.

If you shoot above league average and make All D, you can officially be considered 3 and D.

[baseline bum]

Covington is a better player, including being a much better shooter. According to reports, PATFO wants both him and Saric in return for Kawhi.

I hope those reports are full of shit, that's just giving Leonard away. I'd rather dump him on the DNP list next season until his agent can convince Philly that he would stay so they make a real offer.

[SpurPadre]

lol, Pop comparing Forbes to Curry. Curry's ugly ass kid is better than Forbes, tbh.

[tbdog]

What the fuck? Manu must be retiring or Mills is on the block. We have lost one guard and one combo foward. And drafted a guard, signed a guard, and have a guard ready for minutes.

I think Green will exclusively be backup 3 now.

[TimDunkem]

What the fuck? Manu must be retiring or Mills is on the block. We have lost one guard and one combo foward. And drafted a guard, signed a guard, and have a guard ready for minutes.

I think Green will exclusively be backup 3 now.

Great. More to vomit about. Green can hardly defend anymore and now he's going to be stuck on the likes of Durant, James, and eventually Kawhi? :lmao Fuck this upcoming season, tbh.

[Chris]

Not sure why Spurs fan turned against Forbes.

[TimDunkem]

Not sure why Spurs fan turned against Forbes.

There were Forbes fans to begin with?

[Seventyniner]

Not sure why Spurs fan turned against Forbes.

I'm not sure why anyone turned towards him in the first place.

[Strategic]

What the fuck? Manu must be retiring or Mills is on the block. We have lost one guard and one combo foward. And drafted a guard, signed a guard, and have a guard ready for minutes.

I think Green will exclusively be backup 3 now. A double would be progress.

[SpurPadre]

Not sure why Spurs fan turned against Forbes.

Because he does not belong in the NBA.

[Chris]

I'm not sure why anyone turned towards him in the first place.

He's a great shooter and can move without the ball. His defense is trash, but I would expect that to improve. This team needs guards that can shoot. This is common consensus.

[NASpurs]

He's a great shooter and can move without the ball. His defense is trash, but I would expect that to improve. This team needs guards that can shoot. This is common consensus.

We all thought of that even with Bertans (I know, not a guard) and Forbes getting extended minutes last year. We need quality pieces and not DLeaguers. It’s amazing how this team is so far over the cap with the players they have.

[Spurs9]

2/14 isn't bad value

:lmao PATFO must have been reading my post and offered that to Bertans :lol

[Chris]

We all thought of that even with Bertans (I know, not a guard) and Forbes getting extended minutes last year. We need quality pieces and not DLeaguers. It’s amazing how this team is so far over the cap with the players they have.

I can see the philosophy about acquiring "quality pieces" considering the trends with superteams. How many years did Curry suck before he became a top 3 player?

[kobyz]

he has a jj redick potential, much better play him than belli...

[slick'81]

Pops clealry has a hardon for this kid

[SpurPadre]

Pops clealry has a hardon for this kid

Bonner gave Forbes those incriminating videos of Pop, tbh.

[DAF86]

Well, I meant I was glad someone found it funny, more so than understood it.

If I wasn't so depressed at PATFO confirming they have actually totally lost it, I would have laughed bro.

[cd021]

I hope those reports are full of shit, that's just giving Leonard away. I'd rather dump him on the DNP list next season until his agent can convince Philly that he would stay so they make a real offer.

The reported ask from PATFO is Saric, Covington and 3 firsts, (Philly's 2019 and 2021 picks and Miami's unprotected 2021 firsts) there could be some additional players/assets included too such as Bolden.

That is probably the absolute best Philly would/could do for a 1 year rental. There is no way to guarantee that Kawhi and Uncle Dennis would actually re-sign so they could lose him to the Lakers or Clippers next year.

[cd021]

Not sure why Spurs fan turned against Forbes.

Because he's not good. What an odd question.

[baseline bum]

The reported ask from PATFO is Saric, Covington and 3 firsts, (Philly's 2019 and 2021 picks and Miami's unprotected 2021 firsts) there could be some additional players/assets included too such as Bolden.

That is probably the absolute best Philly would/could do for a 1 year rental. There is no way to guarantee that Kawhi and Uncle Dennis would actually re-sign so they could lose him to the Lakers or Clippers next year.

So then hold onto Leonard another five months until he could legally sign an extension in Philly. No reason to give him away. Two extra picks in the 28-30 range are practically useless.

[DAF86]

If they finish the contract fast, Bryn might be able to help us win the Summer League.

[TimDunkem]

If they finish the contract fast, Bryn might be able to help us win the Summer League.

You think so? He wilted last year after actually playing well and somehow fouled out in SL. He missed a few shots and that confidence crumbled into the ground. :lol

[ironmike1993]

This only makes sense if Mills gets traded. There's no need for two nidgets who can only shoot and do nothing else.

[ace3g]

Have Mills, White improving, sign Beli - why is Forbes needed? Another spot we could have opened up for a SF...

[loveforthegame]

Still not over keeping Forbes. Even if Mills and/or Green are traded.

[FireMicoHalili]

If White counts as a point guard, the Spurs have five shooting guards (Green, Belinelli, Forbes, Walker, and Paul; six if Patty counts). I don’t understand the team’s roster composition at this point if they acquire another shooting guard.

[rastaspur]

Absolutely disgusting, the Spurs were significantly worse whenever he was on the floor, he might be the worst defender I've ever seen in a Spurs uniform..not just lacking in physical tools, but he also has horrible instincts..

I'd understand the shooter argument if they didn't just acquire Belinelli..

Even assuming that there will be a trade for one of the non-Kawhi wings(which seems like a given, at this point), there will still be a logjam..the ONLY thing to look forward to this season is playing time for Walker/White(and Murray, I guess), but they keep adding players who will end up ahead of them on the depth chart..

He isnt del negro bad.

[Stabula]

Race for seis continues!

[Chomag]

No...
Wth is wrong with this FO

[BatManu20]

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[kaji157]

I don't know if it's better for Patfo to do this or nothing.

[Strategic]

1016821070605807618 So Spurs would have to let KL walk for draft picks to get under salary cap? Shit damn

[phxspurfan]

1016821070605807618

Manu isn't coming back

[ElNono]

Not a huge fan, but depends on the $$$ and years, tbh... every NBA team needs to have a full roster. Dude is only entering his 3rd season...

[Down Under]

Paul's contract won't be guaranteed, Green will probably play SF only, Manu will probably retire & hopefully Forbes is insurance. Still with Murray, Mills, White, Beli, it doesn't leave any place for Walker in the Guard or small Forward rotation.

[Budkin]

Terrible signing

[SAGirl]

:lmao PATFO must have been reading my post and offered that to Bertans :lol
Wow Spurs9!!!!!! And an thought you were trolling.... :lol

[lilbthebasedgod]

I don’t mind. Why even try? We’re not gonna win anyway so just pay the young guys and develop them. It’s not like we’re competitive and hope a few make a jump.

[SAGirl]

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[tholdren]

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Lol what a shit post. Typical. You bums sound a lot like pounding the rock. Bunch of low iq posters here

[Killakobe81]

No...
Wth is wrong with this FO

No Duncan... Getting Aldridge and grooming Kawhi has stalled what virtually every great team suffers when the best player in its history retires.
Pop is still a great coach Spurs FO still solid despite some shaky signings/extensions.
Proof of this is they have not panicked or hit the toilet yet...
But if yall do... So many teams have hard to judge them harshly.
All that being said...
Maginka is doing a better job the past two years as I said yesterday.

[DAF86]

No Duncan... Getting Aldridge and grooming Kawhi has stalled what virtually every great team suffers when the best player in its history retires.
Pop is still a great coach Spurs FO still solid despite some shaky signings/extensions.
Proof of this is they have not panicked or hit the toilet yet...
But if yall do... So many teams have hard to judge them harshly.
All that being said...
Maginka is doing a better job the past two years as I said yesterday.

No, what you did yesterday was trying to justify horrible decisions like a homer.

And no, resigning an 11th guy to a 2.5 million contract is still not as bad as squandering several lottery picks in a row.

[Joseph Kony]

what a garbage fucking signing. only a complete retard would think bringing forbes back is a a good idea :lol

:cry b-b-but he shot the highest % on the team last year :cry

:lol couldn't even crack 40% from distance as a three point specialist
:lol 22% from three in the playoffs for his career
:lol good shooter
:lol projected wins went down with his signing
:lol only an idiot would think he's good

[Fusternino]

Honestly, this contract would've made much more sense had Mills not been been re-signed summer 2017 . . . Forbes is much cheaper just with a lower BBIQ.

[Mugen]

Forbes is also a significantly worse player than Patty

[objective]

Forbes will get a chance to at SG and PG before White

Pop loves his shitball three guard lineups.

I expect way too much Mills-Forbes-Marco lineup minutes giving up 140 points per 100 possessions

[palangi]

Forbes is also a significantly worse player than Patty

Definitely pure opinion. Very untrue

[tbdog]

Paul's contract won't be guaranteed, Green will probably play SF only, Manu will probably retire & hopefully Forbes is insurance. Still with Murray, Mills, White, Beli, it doesn't leave any place for Walker in the Guard or small Forward rotation.

Here is the problem.

White, Walker, Beli, Mills, and Forbes all cannot play SF. They cannot guard a SF. Beli at times maybe, and only if it's against a non-scoring undersize wing. Murray could theoretically guard a SF, but we have not seen this in action. So Green and Gay have to play and guard SF's. And we still don't know whats happening with Leonard or who we are getting.

[Killakobe81]

No, what you did yesterday was trying to justify horrible decisions like a homer.

And no, resigning an 11th guy to a 2.5 million contract is still not as bad as squandering several lottery picks in a row.

They have not squandered. RANDLE gave us 4 years and we let him go because we only doing one year deals. I already outlined why the Russell trade was smart.. BALL and Ingram are still on the team. But whatever. You can pretend Lakers haven't made great moves... We will see. These wasted picks swept the Spurs last year and now have LeBron in Randle's place...

[Joseph Kony]

They have not squandered. RANDLE gave us 4 years and we let him go because we only doing one year deals. I already outlined why the Russell trade was smart.. BALL and Ingram are still on the team. But whatever. You can pretend Lakers haven't made great moves... We will see. These wasted picks swept the Spurs last year and now have LeBron in Randle's place...

Trading Russel was a terrible move :lol especially since the could draft lonzo bust when they could have had Jason Tatum or Donovan Mitchell :lmao

[Fusternino]

Definitely pure opinion. Very untrue

Honestly . . . it's true. Really bad shot selection from panicking.

[Killakobe81]

Trading Russel was a terrible move :lol especially since the could draft lonzo bust when they could have had Jason Tatum or Donovan Mitchell :lmao

Russell trade was good for both sides but definitely favors us. We wouldn't even trade Kuzma for Russell straight up yet we shed over $60 million and got a year of Lopez. Your take is beyond dumb and Lonzo was not part of that trade and is irrelevant to the argument.

[200 miles]

There is only one solution: tank the season.

[sammy]

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! Let this scrub go Spurs

[apalisoc_9]

Forbes is a yes man. Exactly the kind of player pop wants.

[BatManu20]

Just to mix in some positive vibes with all the wrist-cutting.

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[Down Under]

I think Salinas has it right if Bertans, Belinelli & Forbes are all 1+1 deals. It means those 3 plus Gay, Green & Gasol are potentially off the books next season, opening up a fair bit of capspace.

[Seventyniner]

I think Salinas has it right if Bertans, Belinelli & Forbes are all 1+1 deals. It means those 3 plus Gay, Green & Gasol are potentially off the books next season, opening up a fair bit of capspace.

Right. That also would explain why the Spurs are willing to spend all this money on guys like Bertans and Beli and Gay but let Anderson walk.

[Joseph Kony]

Russell trade was good for both sides but definitely favors us. We wouldn't even trade Kuzma for Russell straight up yet we shed over $60 million and got a year of Lopez. Your take is beyond dumb and Lonzo was not part of that trade and is irrelevant to the argument.

so your GM dumped a solid pick because they signed a garbage player to a ridiculous contract and you're somehow proud of that? :lmao :lmao

[cd021]

So then hold onto Leonard another five months until he could legally sign an extension in Philly. No reason to give him away. Two extra picks in the 28-30 range are practically useless.

No telling what uncle Dennis might do if the Spurs don't trade him by training camp. There is a non zero chance that Kawhi doesn't report, then what? They fine and then ,maybe, suspend? That lowers the Spurs leverage and creates an even bigger circus. I think some version of that deal gets done; the Spurs get two cheap starters and 3 extra picks and Philly gets a super star that may or may not be healthy and may not even stay. There is risk on both sides for sure.

[DAF86]

so your GM dumped a solid pick because they signed a garbage player to a ridiculous contract and you're somehow proud of that? :lmao :lmao

Dude doesn't get it. I'm done trying to explain it to him. :lol

[DAF86]

No telling what uncle Dennis might do if the Spurs don't trade him by training camp. There is a non zero chance that Kawhi doesn't report, then what? They fine and then ,maybe, suspend? That lowers the Spurs leverage and creates an even bigger circus. I think some version of that deal gets done; the Spurs get two cheap starters and 3 extra picks and Philly gets a super star that may or may not be healthy and may not even stay. There is risk on both sides for sure.

If Leonard does anything other than play good boy, he will see his next contract severely compromised.

[Killakobe81]

so your GM dumped a solid pick because they signed a garbage player to a ridiculous contract and you're somehow proud of that? :lmao :lmao

Yep, sure am.
Maginka righting the Jimitch wrongs.
Didn't like Russell deal at first I freely admit that.
But that was before Kuzma hit and we signed LeBron with our cap space. Genius trade tbh.
Then we traded Nance and Clarkson for another pick and more space.

[DAF86]

So, with the imminent Walker signing Spurs would have:

Murray - Mills - White
Green - Belli - Forbes - Walker
Kawhi - Manu - Paul
Bertans - Gay
Aldridge - Gasol

14 players under contract, with probably at least 2 coming on a Kawhi trade, which would make 15 players under contract with a lot of holes still to fill. Manu might retire, but that only opens up one spot. How the fuck would this work?

[objective]

So, with the imminent Walker signing Spurs would have:

Murray - Mills - White
Green - Belli - Forbes - Walker
Kawhi - Manu - Paul
Bertans - Gay
Aldridge - Gasol

14 players under contract, with probably at least 2 coming on a Kawhi trade, which would make 15 players under contract with a lot of holes still to fill. Manu might retire, but that only opens up one spot. How the fuck would this work?

How would it work?

It won't.

It's even worse roster construction than last year.

No bigs on the bench, no more Anderson, a dozen small guards ...

[Fusternino]

So, with the imminent Walker signing Spurs would have:

Murray - Mills - White
Green - Belli - Forbes - Walker
Kawhi - Manu - Paul
Bertans - Gay
Aldridge - Gasol

14 players under contract, with probably at least 2 coming on a Kawhi trade, which would make 15 players under contract with a lot of holes still to fill. Manu might retire, but that only opens up one spot. How the fuck would this work?


Waive Paul unless Manu retires, I guess. We should know by 8/1. Sign Metu and hope we get back two forwards for Kawhi if we trade him . . . I like Tobias Harris and Harrell a lot. Not as big a fan of Saric and Covington. Maybe if both Manu retires and we waive Paul then 76ers send back Saric/Covington/Zhaire/Chandler for Kawhi and a Mills salary dump. I still think Clippers have better assets . . . I really wish we had gotten Mbah a Moute with the BAE. Anyways, if Kawhi comes back we still need another forward . . . use the rest of the MLE or the BAE on them. However, there really isn't anyone left who is defensive minded.

Let's hope if Mills or Forbes is on the floor the only other guard is Manu or Murray . . .

[DAF86]

How would it work?

It won't.

It's even worse roster construction than last year.

No bigs on the bench, no more Anderson, a dozen small guards ...

I'm doing brain gymnastics trying to find the rationale behind this roster construction but I can't find any, tbh.

I'm guessing Manu retires and Paul gets cut and then they sign a big and a long wing, but even those moves wouldn't really balance the roster. I'm seriously baffled.

[DAF86]

Waive Paul unless Manu retires, I guess. We should know by 8/1. Sign Metu and hope we get back two forwards for Kawhi if we trade him . . . I like Tobias Harris and Harrell a lot. Not as big a fan of Saric and Covington. Maybe if both Manu retires and we waive Paul then 76ers send back Saric/Covington/Zhaire/Chandler for Kawhi and a Mills salary dump. I still think Clippers have better assets . . . I really wish we had gotten Mbah a Moute with the BAE. Anyways, if Kawhi comes back we still need another forward . . . use the rest of the MLE or the BAE on them. However, there really isn't anyone left who is defensive minded.

Let's hope if Mills or Forbes is on the floor the only other guard is Manu or Murray . . .

Mills getting traded would explain the Forbes signing. I hope PATFO is really ahead of the game and that ends up being the case.

[rascal]

So, with the imminent Walker signing Spurs would have:

Murray - Mills - White
Green - Belli - Forbes - Walker
Kawhi - Manu - Paul
Bertans - Gay
Aldridge - Gasol

14 players under contract, with probably at least 2 coming on a Kawhi trade, which would make 15 players under contract with a lot of holes still to fill. Manu might retire, but that only opens up one spot. How the fuck would this work?

Can also make another trade to move a player for a draft pick or a two for one deal.

[rascal]

I'm doing brain gymnastics trying to find the rationale behind this roster construction but I can't find any, tbh.

I'm guessing Manu retires and Paul gets cut and then they sign a big and a long Won't, but even those moves wouldn't really balance the roster. I'm seriously baffled.

Spurs are far from finished yet. There will be changes.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

How would it work?

It won't.

It's even worse roster construction than last year.

No bigs on the bench, no more Anderson, a dozen small guards ...

Spurs have to be arranging a trade. It’s about all that makes sense at this point.

[dabom]

Mills getting traded would explain the Forbes signing. I hope that's the case.

People thought that last year. :lmao

Anyone thinking that is a dumbass. :lmao

[dabom]

And if you wanna bet 100 on it we can. :lmao

[Fusternino]

I'm doing brain gymnastics trying to find the rationale behind this roster construction but I can't find any, tbh.

I'm guessing Manu retires and Paul gets cut and then they sign a big and a long Won't, but even those moves wouldn't really balance the roster. I'm seriously baffled.

I agree it makes no sense. I though Walker/Beli/Metu was a direct replacement for Forbes/BP3/Joff which is a good upgrade for the end of the bench. Parker walking I was OK with . . . wouldn't have given him anything beyond 3/10.

Re-signing Forbes and letting Anderson walk? What was the point? Who can we get for the BAE or the remainder of the MLE who can guard both the 3 and 4 positions? Harrell is nice but Clippers can easily match for him. Mbah a Moute may have always planned to go back to the Clippers, tbh.

[DAF86]

And if you wanna bet 100 on it we can. :lmao

Why would I bet on something I'm saying I'm trying to make sense of? :lol

[Fusternino]

Mills getting traded would explain the Forbes signing. I hope PATFO is really ahead of the game and that ends up being the case.

Sure, he can be sent with Kawhi but then the other team would need to be able to match that in salary. 76ers would probably need 4 players for that, Clippers only 3 most likely. Paul or Manu is definitely gone . . . we're not carrying 9 guards even if Manu and Green can usually guard the 3 well enough.

[dabom]

Spurs are just playing the odds game. Pay cheap and hope they play lights out if the stars align. Nothing to do with Mills.

[cutewizard]

There is something up their sleeve......

Hmmmm hmmmmm

[DAF86]

Spurs are just playing the odds game. Pay cheap and hope they play lights out if the stars align. Nothing to do with Mills.

OK, but pay cheap on a position of need. Don't add a 9th guard to a 15 spots roster.

Yeah, that's right, the Spurs have 9 guards under contract. 7 of them are 6'5" or shorter. :lmao

[dabom]

OK, but pay cheap on a position of need. Don't add a 9th guard to a 15 spots roster.

Yeah, that's right, the Spurs have 9 guards under contract. 7 of them are 6'5" or shorter. :lmao

Our only short players are MVPatty and Forbes you dumb fuck. :lmao

Everyone else is good size for their position. :lol

[marinoman]

I think these 2 year deals are one and one so spurs have lots of money next year.
gay/pau/green for sure
belli/Forbes/Bertans
kawhi be gone
only prob we r not LA and prolly will miss on Ad, Klay and others

[SAGirl]

OK, but pay cheap on a position of need. Don't add a 9th guard to a 15 spots roster.

Yeah, that's right, the Spurs have 9 guards under contract. 7 of them are 6'5" or shorter. :lmao
Wow. I am seriously getting depressed.

[tholdren]

How would it work?

It won't.

It's even worse roster construction than last year.

No bigs on the bench, no more Anderson, a dozen small guards ...

Lol it doesnt matter about positions anymore. Those were gone in 2012

[tholdren]

Our only short players are MVPatty and Forbes you dumb fuck. :lmao

Everyone else is good size for their position. :lol

This

[DAF86]

Our only short players are MVPatty and Forbes you dumb fuck. :lmao

Everyone else is good size for their position. :lol

The problem is that if they don't balance the roster out, folks will be playing out of position, like it happened last season. You dumb fuck. :lol

[dabom]

The problem is that if they don't balance the roster out, folks will be playing out of position, like it happened last season. You dumb fuck. :lol

So now move the goalpost. :lmao

Faggot. :lmao

The imbalance is due to Kawhi you dumb fuck. Not the roster. :lol

[dabom]

What fucking goal post move are you gonna do now faggot. :lmao

Probably a fathead fluffier.:lol

[cjw]

They have not squandered. RANDLE gave us 4 years and we let him go because we only doing one year deals. I already outlined why the Russell trade was smart.. BALL and Ingram are still on the team. But whatever. You can pretend Lakers haven't made great moves... We will see. These wasted picks swept the Spurs last year and now have LeBron in Randle's place...

You realize you could have just signed Randle to a one year deal for the amount he’s getting for two years, right? You had his Bird rights and could have completed many of the other crappy moves while keeping his cap hold on the books.

But Sketchy Bizzaro Rob Lowe and Magic aren’t smart enough to realize that. You squandered him (zero playoff games) and Russell for nothing. Absolutely nothing. Mozgov and Deng make Patty and Pau look like executive of the year work. I realize they were the previous regime but still.

[DAF86]

So now move the goalpost. :lmao

Faggot. :lmao

The imbalance is due to Kawhi you dumb fuck. Not the roster. :lol

Explain what the goalpost move is faggot. :lol

Having 9 guards means there aren't enough players at other positions. And when you don't have enough players at other positions, chances are folks will play out of position.

And no, one guy doesn't change that dynamic. Counting Kawhi, the Spurs are still light on long wings and bigmen, and overloaded at undersized guards.

[dabom]

Explain what the goalpost move is faggot. :lol

Having 9 guards means there aren't enough players at other positions. And when you don't have enough players at other positions, chances are folks will play out of position.

And no, one guy doesn't change that dynamic. Counting Kawhi, the Spurs are still light on long wings and bigmen, and overloaded at undersized guards.

I was talking about their height with you. Not some other bullshit. :lol

You didn't reply to my statement. You went on a tangent. :lol

[dabom]

I'm going to sleep brah. Take this :lma. :lmao

[DAF86]

What fucking goal post move are you gonna do now faggot. :lmao

Probably a fathead fluffier.:lol

Wrong as usual, dumbass.


So, I did some thinking while reading through the thread debating whether or not Spurs should match, and I came to the conclusion that they shouldn't for two basic reasons:

-Bad fit with Murray: suppossedly, Murray is the PG of the future for the Spurs. Do you really want to commit 40 mils for the next 4 seasons to a guy that doesn't fit your future PG?

-The Spurs are getting at least a SF in a potential Kawhi trade: Whether it is Ingram and Kuzma, Covington and Saric or Tobías Harris, the Spurs are definitely getting forwards, so this apparently huge void they have at that position isn't really there.

I actually like Kyle, but it doesn't make sense to match, imho.

[BackHome]

And if you wanna bet 100 on it we can. :lmao

Bitch you never ever keep your word “K-Y” :toast

[Killakobe81]

You realize you could have just signed Randle to a one year deal for the amount he’s getting for two years, right? You had his Bird rights and could have completed many of the other crappy moves while keeping his cap hold on the books.

But Sketchy Bizzaro Rob Lowe and Magic aren’t smart enough to realize that. You squandered him (zero playoff games) and Russell for nothing. Absolutely nothing. Mozgov and Deng make Patty and Pau look like executive of the year work. I realize they were the previous regime but still.

I already explained Randle gotta repair that team/agent relationship... Something your team is struggling with right now, tbh.:rollin

[Dingle Barry]

Covington is a better player, including being a much better shooter. According to reports, PATFO wants both him and Saric in return for Kawhi.
Robert Covington? The career 40% fg shooter?

[offset formation]

How would it work?

It won't.

It's even worse roster construction than last year.

No bigs on the bench, no more Anderson, a dozen small guards ...

Metu and/or Milutinov

[offset formation]

OK, but pay cheap on a position of need. Don't add a 9th guard to a 15 spots roster.

Yeah, that's right, the Spurs have 9 guards under contract. 7 of them are 6'5" or shorter. :lmao

How'd that 'pay cheap' work out for us on the bigs last year?

[DAF86]

How'd that 'pay cheap' work out for us on the bigs last year?

You do realize that at this point anything the Spurs "pay" will be "cheap", right? They have no more money to spend. I just wanted that little money they had to spend to be spent on positions that we actually need, instead of yet another undersized guards.

[offset formation]

You do realize that at this point anything the Spurs "pay" will be "cheap", right? They have no more money to spend. I just wanted that little money they had to spend to be spent on positions that we actually need, instead of yet another undersized guards.

Well aware. And yes, that was my point. We paid cheap on Joffrey and that was not a productive position.

So my overall point in rebuttal is the following: might as well pay Forbes on a cheap ass contract seeing as he was our most efficient 3pt shooter and considering he might just get better.

Otherwise, I'd rather pay our in-house bigs, Metu and Milutinov. They'll both be cheap, too. And will be far more athletic than the recently departed Lavergne.

[DAF86]

Well aware. And yes, that was my point. We paid cheap on Joffrey and that was not a productive position.

So my overall point in rebuttal is the following: might as well pay Forbes on a cheap ass contract seeing as he was our most efficient 3pt shooter and considering he might just get better.

Otherwise, I'd rather pay our in-house bigs, Metu and Milutinov. They'll both be cheap, too. And will be far more athletic than the recently departed Lavergne.

Well, the Spurs won't be able to sign both Metu and Milutinov now that they signed yet another guard to take up a roster spot. That was my entire point.

[offset formation]

Well, the Spurs won't be able to sign both Metu and Milutinov now that they signed yet another guard to take up a roster spot. That was my entire point.

Thus why I said and/or in my first post on the matter. If Mills or other players get moved aps part of the Kawhi trade, perhaps a couple spots open up. Plus we dont know Paul's, Manu's or Kawhi's status.

[objective]

Metu and/or Milutinov

Metu as a skinny rookie will be even less useful than Joffrey. Bertans is a muscle monster compared to him.

As a big Milutinov fan, I don't think it's happening this year. I think it would have happened by now, but Marco's leftovers from the MLE probably isn't enough.

[offset formation]

Metu as a skinny rookie will be even less useful than Joffrey. Bertans is a muscle monster compared to him.

As a big Milutinov fan, I don't think it's happening this year. I think it would have happened by now, but Marco's leftovers from the MLE probably isn't enough.

What's left? Like 3M, right? About what he's making overseas now. Might be enough, along with the chance to play NBA minutes, to get him over here.

Edit: his caphold is only 1.47M
BAE is 3.38M
MLE is 2.76M partially used on Marco

[offset formation]

Btw, does his 1M buyout count against the MLE? No, right?

[DAF86]

Thus why I said and/or in my first post on the matter.

We probably won't sign either, now that we locked up 9 rosters spots on guards. Milutinov is probably too expensive, and Metu isn't an answer as neither 3rd center, nor SF. If we wouldn't have given this contract to Forbes we could have given us the luxury of signing Metu as a 15th guy. Now we have to use those last spots we have to adress serious needs.


f Mills or other players get moved aps part of the Kawhi trade, perhaps a couple spots open up. Plus we dont know Paul's, Manu's or Kawhi's status.

You don't overload a position, seeing if maybe you can make some trades down the road and balance the roster up. You sign the guys that you need to sign to cover all the positions so that then you can trade freely without thinking "well, we can't get yet another guard on a trade" or "we can't trade away Gasol, because we have no other fucking center on the roster".

[cutewizard]

With Bellinelli, White, Bertans and Forbes.......

Spurs loadiing them up some deadly shooters!!!

Woooooooooooooooooooooo!

:flag:

[TimDunkem]

^Forbes is not a deadly shooter.

[objective]

What's left? Like 3M, right? About what he's making overseas now. Might be enough, along with the chance to play NBA minutes, to get him over here.

Edit: his caphold is only 1.47M
BAE is 3.38M
MLE is 2.76M partially used on Marco


Btw, does his 1M buyout count against the MLE? No, right?

Milutinov is not eligible for the BAE because if he doesn't sign to his scale deal it has to be at least three years in length, and the BAE is only two.

The amount the Spurs can pay towards his buyout, 700k, is separate from any contract.

[cd021]

Robert Covington? The career 40% fg shooter?

:lol he takes like 6 3's a game, that is why,

[cd021]

What's left? Like 3M, right? About what he's making overseas now. Might be enough, along with the chance to play NBA minutes, to get him over here.

Edit: his caphold is only 1.47M
BAE is 3.38M
MLE is 2.76M partially used on Marco

I would think if Militinov does come over, he would take the remaining balance of the MLE on a 3 year deal

[superbigtime]

This roster is scary bad. Sacramento kings bad.

[baseline bum]

No telling what uncle Dennis might do if the Spurs don't trade him by training camp. There is a non zero chance that Kawhi doesn't report, then what? They fine and then ,maybe, suspend? That lowers the Spurs leverage and creates an even bigger circus. I think some version of that deal gets done; the Spurs get two cheap starters and 3 extra picks and Philly gets a super star that may or may not be healthy and may not even stay. There is risk on both sides for sure.

If he's not going to report he has to retire then and forfeit that $20.9 million he's due. Otherwise the Spurs can hold his rights for another year. Spurs need to play the same hardball Leonard's group is playing. The way I see it someone is going to have to pay a lot for Leonard. Whether it's another team having to give the Spurs a good prospect or whether it's Leonard sitting out a season of his prime and losing that $20.9 million, someone is going to have to pay a large price. You don't give away a player like that. Even the Sixers got Hornacek when they traded Barkley in one of the most lopsided deals in NBA history. The Spurs would get nothing close to that kind of return with Saric and a bunch of crap.

[benefactor]

Spurs have to be arranging a trade. It’s about all that makes sense at this point.
Same. Mills and Leonard with Mills probably going to a third team that can absorb his salary.

[Chomag]

So 3 1 dimensional player signing in a row. I would not be surprised if LMA has a mysterious season ending injury or asks to be traded.

[offset formation]

Milutinov is not eligible for the BAE because if he doesn't sign to his scale deal it has to be at least three years in length, and the BAE is only two.

The amount the Spurs can pay towards his buyout, 700k, is separate from any contract.

:bobo

[Spurs da champs]

So 3 1 dimensional player signing in a row. I would not be surprised if LMA has a mysterious season ending injury or asks to be traded.

As long as he's getting his touches he don't care tbh. :lol

[r0drig0lac]

As long as he's getting his touches he don't care tbh. :lol

[MaNu4Tres]

Well, the Spurs won't be able to sign both Metu and Milutinov now that they signed yet another guard to take up a roster spot. That was my entire point.

Thats not true at all.

Spurs are far from done.

They are talking to teams about Mills & Pau still.

Manu could retire.

Theyll let Paul walk too.

Spurs just need 3 true bigs since they plan on playing Bertans & Gay at the 4.

[SAGirl]

This roster is scary bad. Sacramento kings bad.
They expect Lamarcus and Kawhi to carry them.

I am assuming they are supermaxing Kawhi. If he gets nags in that hamstring again, watch the Hobbit platoon.

[JPB]

wasn't there a photo of Kawhi with Rudy, Danny, Forbes, DJ. Am glad we are bringing all those guys back. Before you hate Bryn, don't forget he played well of us last year until he ran out of gas towards the end of the season. Which is reasonable since he played in summer league and didn't really take a break last summer.

oh wow ! A glimpse of sense on ST.

Forbes played well at the start of the season (everybody was calling for more minutes for him) until he hit some kind of rookie wall. When your legs and breath aren't there anymore, your shoot disappear too.

There's also the contract factor.He was playing loose at the start of the season but the closer to the end of the season for 2nd/3rd string players like him, the more you think about your future in the league and if you'll get a contract. Not good to think too much for a shooter.

Not saying he's Steph 2.0 but let see what he'll give in his second year with the Spurs, with more corporate knowledge and confidence now that he's before judging his real value.

[mexicanjunior]

Awful...this roster is garbage...

[MaNu4Tres]

So 3 1 dimensional player signing in a row. I would not be surprised if LMA has a mysterious season ending injury or asks to be traded.

They had no money to sign anyone better than Gay & Bertans. Green opted in, Forbes is likely for peanuts (2.5 mil) and a 1+1 deal too.

Marco bugs me more because they used the only thing they had to bring another piece (most of the MLE) on him. What I do like about it, is that its only 6 mil per and a 1+1 deal. If Spurs season goes south, or if they have no legitimate shot, or if Derrick/ Lonnie/ Hart? make Marco and or Danny expendabe, then Spurs will have two attractive players to dangle to contenders around the trade deadline -- Danny & Marco. Spurs could get two late 1st round picks for both.

Spurs did pretty solid for not having any cap space, and at the same time, they are maintaining optimal flexibility moving forward w them being short managable 1 yr & 1+1 deals.

Now if they went out and gave Gay, Bertans, and Marco 3-4 yr deals then Id agree with your disapproval.

[ernest787]

^^^^ this

People are having such a hard time understanding that with the Kawhi saga this entire offseason has shifted from possibly making a big splash in FA to trying to maintain maximum flexibility as they figure out what they are going to do going forward.

[cd021]

If he's not going to report he has to retire then and forfeit that $20.9 million he's due. Otherwise the Spurs can hold his rights for another year. Spurs need to play the same hardball Leonard's group is playing. The way I see it someone is going to have to pay a lot for Leonard. Whether it's another team having to give the Spurs a good prospect or whether it's Leonard sitting out a season of his prime and losing that $20.9 million, someone is going to have to pay a large price. You don't give away a player like that. Even the Sixers got Hornacek when they traded Barkley in one of the most lopsided deals in NBA history. The Spurs would get nothing close to that kind of return with Saric and a bunch of crap.

I don't think he'd actually sit out the entire season, but it would cause a even bigger hit to his rep, Dwight still hasn't recovered from his Orlando exit- up to that point, he was actually one of the more popular players in the league (that feels like 20 years ago :lol).

I floated an alternative theory; that the Spurs are dragging their feet until near training camp, in which Kawhi's group gets antsy about having to report, so they put external pressure on the Lakers to acquire him, or he'll "consider" signing elsewhere next off season.

In that case; Ingram, Hart, Kuzma, and 2 first, to San Antonio, Lonzo to Orlando or Phoenix and another player coming back to the Spurs.

[Namundy]

I think this is a safety net in the event of a Mills trade. Shooters are always welcome... they just need to make their shots. Oh and don't shoot less than 70% on free throws.

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I think this is a safety net in the event of a Mills trade. Shooters are always welcome... they just need to make their shots. Oh and don't shoot less than 70% on free throws.

Yeah, wtf is it with his free throws, anyway?? Kid needs to be hitting 90%+

[Dex]

Yeah, wtf is it with his free throws, anyway?? Kid needs to be hitting 90%+

Yips. I think he will be better this season.

[Dex]

Don't remember this being talked about much, but apparently Bryn was locked up in a custody battle for his two kids last season (https://www.lansingstatejournal.com/story/opinion/columnists/judy-putnam/2017/12/21/bryn-forbes-custody-battle-two-sons-ex-girlfriend/932086001/).

Article doesn't say if it ever got worked out, but I could definitely see that being a distraction which affected his play. Dude's Instagram is full of pictures of his two boys.

Last season really was a doozie for the whole team emotionally.

[YGWHI]

Pops clealry has a hardon for this kid
All the rookie vs sophomore shit but I never understood why Pop played him more minutes than White last season.

Anyway, I still think Bryn can improve his game.

[YGWHI]

Don't remember this being talked about much, but apparently Bryn was locked up in a custody battle for his two kids last season (https://www.lansingstatejournal.com/story/opinion/columnists/judy-putnam/2017/12/21/bryn-forbes-custody-battle-two-sons-ex-girlfriend/932086001/).

Article doesn't say if it ever got worked out, but I could definitely see that being a distraction which affected his play. Dude's Instagram is full of pictures of his two boys.

Last season really was a doozie for the whole team emotionally.

Didn't know this about the custody battle. Thanks for posting!

[SAGirl]

The custody battle is ugly. They were never married so the Mom didn’t have any child support for them and Forbes grabbed them from Michigan and took them with him to SA without her consent. It sounds painful however you put it.

He also said in one interview I remember that he hit a wall last season. He had never played that many minutes in so many important games. It was really draining. Anyways I don’t really expect any improvements if Pop keeps playing him in overmatched lineups but perhaps he can be a more consistent scorer.

[spurraider21]

They had no money to sign anyone better than Gay & Bertans. Green opted in, Forbes is likely for peanuts (2.5 mil) and a 1+1 deal too.

Marco bugs me more because they used the only thing they had to bring another piece (most of the MLE) on him. What I do like about it, is that its only 6 mil per and a 1+1 deal. If Spurs season goes south, or if they have no legitimate shot, or if Derrick/ Lonnie/ Hart? make Marco and or Danny expendabe, then Spurs will have two attractive players to dangle to contenders around the trade deadline -- Danny & Marco. Spurs could get two late 1st round picks for both.

Spurs did pretty solid for not having any cap space, and at the same time, they are maintaining optimal flexibility moving forward w them being short managable 1 yr & 1+1 deals.

Now if they went out and gave Gay, Bertans, and Marco 3-4 yr deals then Id agree with your disapproval.
the gay deal isn't being heavily criticized. he's on a 1 year deal and as you said, we didnt have the cap room to sign other players. green opting in was out of our control, but again, that's only a 1 year thing in an offseason where we didnt have cap room

i'd rather have signed bertans for 1/10 than 2/14.5. because next season our cap space is actually going to matter. 4/20 was a fine deal. the new one is shit. we overpay a guy for 2 years and then he can just walk.

this is why, as you said, people dont like the marco deal. he eats into our cap next season when it matters.

the forbes signing is more about roster redundancy than anything. he's a below average player who mimics the role of patty mills but does it much much worse. based on the role he was undeservedly granted last year, there are legit concerns he is going to take minutes from guys who otherwise would need them like white

[MaNu4Tres]

the gay deal isn't being heavily criticized. he's on a 1 year deal and as you said, we didnt have the cap room to sign other players. green opting in was out of our control, but again, that's only a 1 year thing in an offseason where we didnt have cap room

i'd rather have signed bertans for 1/10 than 2/14.5. because next season our cap space is actually going to matter. 4/20 was a fine deal. the new one is shit. we overpay a guy for 2 years and then he can just walk.

this is why, as you said, people dont like the marco deal. he eats into our cap next season when it matters.

the forbes signing is more about roster redundancy than anything. he's a below average player who mimics the role of patty mills but does it much much worse. based on the role he was undeservedly granted last year, there are legit concerns he is going to take minutes from guys who otherwise would need them like white

Under the hypothetical that Bertans and Marco have player options the 2nd year and IF THEY OPT IN, they will still be very trade-able if a better opportunity presents itself next summer for SA in Free Agency. They are not Patty or Pau type deals that are hard to move because of how they are only 6 mil and 7 mil.

Now if they were 3 year deals then yeah, I completely understand the gripe because at that point they wouldn't be able to be moved as easily.

Spurs are trying to trade Mills, and Paul is about to get let go. Forbes is cheap depth that provides 40% shooting from 3 and still has room to grow as long as he's not asked to defend SFs and big SGs like he was most of last season.

[Dex]

Under the hypothetical that Bertans and Marco have player options the 2nd year and IF THEY OPT IN, they will still be very trade-able if a better opportunity presents itself next summer for SA in Free Agency. They are not Patty or Pau type deals that are hard to move because of how they are only 6 mil and 7 mil.

Now if they were 3 year deals then yeah, I completely understand the gripe because at that point they wouldn't be able to be moved as easily.

Spurs are trying to trade Mills, and Paul is about to get let go. Forbes is cheap depth that provides 40% shooting from 3 and still has room to grow as long as he's not asked to defend SFs and big SGs like he was most of last season.

Even Pau's deal would be easy to move since it's non-guaranteed next year. It looks a lot better this season than it did last year.

The real head scratcher was, and still is, the Mills deal...but that dead horse has already been beaten.

[Dex]

The custody battle is ugly. They were never married so the Mom didn’t have any child support for them and Forbes grabbed them from Michigan and took them with him to SA without her consent. It sounds painful however you put it.

He also said in one interview I remember that he hit a wall last season. He had never played that many minutes in so many important games. It was really draining. Anyways I don’t really expect any improvements if Pop keeps playing him in overmatched lineups but perhaps he can be a more consistent scorer.

No one ever wants to lose their kids, but if that mom really thinks those kids are better off living with her in Michigan on child support than they would be living with their millionaire father and nanny, she's batty.

[MaNu4Tres]

Even Pau's deal would be easy to move since it's non-guaranteed next year. It looks a lot better this season than it did last year.

The real head scratcher was, and still is, the Mills deal...but that dead horse has already been beaten.

That dead horse deserves all the beatings it can get lol. That was the worst deal in the Pop era given the context of the back court situation ( 2 straight 1st round picks on DeJounte and Derrick and also having Forbes as a Neal/Patty guy -- Spurs had all 3 making next to nothing on the roster deserving of more minutes). Why pile on a Patty 4/50 deal on top of those 3 guys? Was bad and expendable the day it was signed.

Wish Spurs took my advice and traded Mills in summer of 16' after they drafted DeJounte. They could have moved him for a late 1st or 2nd rounder.

[Mugen]

I keep seeing that Forbes and Beli have a 1+1, is that confirmed anywhere?

[SAGirl]

No one ever wants to lose their kids, but if that mom really thinks those kids are better off living with her in Michigan on child support than they would be living with their millionaire father and nanny, she's batty.
Not wanting to get into this all that much. I don’t know them but she is the kids mother. The dad travels a lot and she’s got a right to want the kids to live with her. A nanny will never replace a mothers love. Again, I don’t know them. This thing might get ugly. If it isn’t already.

[Dex]

Not wanting to get into this all that much. I don’t know them but she is the kids mother. The dad travels a lot and she’s got a right to want the kids to live with her. A nanny will never replace a mothers love. Again, I don’t know them. This thing might get ugly. If it isn’t already.

That's a fair point, but by all signs, Forbes seems to be a pretty caring and loving father as well. He doesn't deserve to lose custody of his kids either just because he travels a lot, and he obviously has the financial means to care for the kids better.

Obviously, it's impossible to know all the ins-and-outs of such a complicated issue by one article, so I guess I shouldn't really pick sides. Either way, I just hope it gets resolved so Bryn can focus on his game and his career.

[BackHome]

Only way to get custody is prove she is crazy, doing drugs, or other criminal activity around her child. Other then that she gets custody and a nice big child support check :married:

[SAGirl]

That's a fair point, but by all signs, Forbes seems to be a pretty caring and loving father as well. He doesn't deserve to lose custody of his kids either just because he travels a lot, and he obviously has the financial means to care for the kids better.

Obviously, it's impossible to know all the ins-and-outs of such a complicated issue by one article, so I guess I shouldn't really pick sides. Either way, I just hope it gets resolved so Bryn can focus on his game and his career.
It gets ugly. Both might be deserving parents. The fact he took them without asking her consent knowing she’s a woman of modest means is like a fait accompli. Anyways not the forum to get into that.

[SAGirl]

He should pop the champagne that the Spurs gave him a 2 year deal. Kind of expect him to play better if put in the right situations.

[superbigtime]

He should pop the champagne that the Spurs gave him a 2 year deal. Kind of expect him to play better if put in the right situations.

Generously stated. there are so few of them for him.

[DAF86]

I wonder if another NBA would have signed him if not for the Spurs.

[Pavlov]

I always love July cliff jumpers who think the roster is set.

[HarlemHeat37]

I wonder if another NBA would have signed him if not for the Spurs.

100%..I hate everything about Forbes, but he does have a useful NBA skill..

[spurraider21]

100%..I hate everything about Forbes, but he does have a useful NBA skill..
culture

[spurraider21]

have the terms/money come out for this one?

[rastaspur]

Not wanting to get into this all that much. I don’t know them but she is the kids mother. The dad travels a lot and she’s got a right to want the kids to live with her. A nanny will never replace a mothers love. Again, I don’t know them. This thing might get ugly. If it isn’t already.

Traveling alot is defintely an appropriate consideration in a custody determination. So long as the mother is a fit and proper parent and keeps a roof over the kid, puts clothes on their backs, feeds them, etc, she has the upperhand.

The fact the father is rich compared to the mother should not be considered under virtually ever states laws.

He should just work out a joint custody arrangement and have them in the offseason. Agree to pay child support at a reduced basis and share custody. No need for a battle if both parents are fit and proper.

[rastaspur]

It gets ugly. Both might be deserving parents. The fact he took them without asking her consent knowing she’s a woman of modest means is like a fait accompli. Anyways not the forum to get into that.

The judges i practice in front of would shit a brick if a parent took children without permission of the mother across state lines and then not return them. Thats pretty much kidnapping. Most would restrict his visitation. Thats a stupid move. If you do that you better have a emergency situation like the moms smoking crack and selling her body, molesting the children, etc.

I have represented clients who were able to suspend visitation based on the fathers threats that he was going to run off with the child to alaska

[-21-]

I was very high on Forbes prior to the start of last season. I was kinda expecting him to become Patty's eventual replacement. But he never showed up. Even after lowering my expectations throughout the season, he still managed to disappoint. I sure hope he manages to prove us wrong and actually step up when he gets minutes, which he'll probably get a lot of since Pop seems to like him. Though tbh, I'd much rather see White/Walker play over him.

[tholdren]

The judges i practice in front of would shit a brick if a parent took children without permission of the mother across state lines and then not return them. Thats pretty much kidnapping. Most would restrict his visitation. Thats a stupid move. If you do that you better have a emergency situation like the moms smoking crack and selling her body, molesting the children, etc.

I have represented clients who were able to suspend visitation based on the fathers threats that he was going to run off with the child to alaska

Bailiffs can represent prisoners in san antonio?

[rastaspur]

I dont live in san antonio. Not a bailiff either. You are not smart it seems. Domestic relations court is where custody battles take place. Criminal court is for prisoners.

Your joke might make sense if you had a basic understanding of the judicial system.

[Stabula]

So many bad takes here. It must be all the Whataburger and piss water beer you people down while watching these games preventing you from forming acute observations.

[tholdren]

I dont live in san antonio. Not a bailiff either. You are not smart it seems. Domestic relations court is where custody battles take place. Criminal court is for prisoners.

Your joke might make sense if you had a basic understanding of the judicial system.
Bailiffs deal with the strange and unexpected every day. "The domestic relations division definitely exposed me to some ironies of life," says Tim Mooney, a bailiff in the domestic relations division of the Cuyahoga County courts in Ohio. "Some are unusual and offbeat.

[Capt Bringdown]

He's not particularly good at anything. IOW, he's a perfect fit.

[rastaspur]

Bailiffs deal with the strange and unexpected every day. "The domestic relations division definitely exposed me to some ironies of life," says Tim Mooney, a bailiff in the domestic relations division of the Cuyahoga County courts in Ohio. "Some are unusual and offbeat.

That quote from a bailiff doesnt save your ignorance. Quit being like apo.

My post was talking about my representation of clients in custody battles. Your response was "bailiffs can represent prisoners in san antonio.?"

I didnt say that a bailiff can not be present in a d.r. court.

It is really simple but let me explain it to you like you are 5 years old so it can sink in, troll.There called plaintiffs and defendants in domestic relations court. Not prisoners. Prisoners are those people who commit crimes and that runs through criminal proceedings.

Can a prisoner be in a custody battle? Of course, but its not going to me much of a battle. Judges typically dont grant custody to someone if they are currently in prison.

[SAGirl]

Rasta I appreciated your explanation and answer to me. Thanks for the law class. And I am sorry about this tholdren trolling...

[rastaspur]

Rasta I appreciated your explanation and answer to me. Thanks for the law class. And I am sorry about this tholdren trolling...

No worries. Your gut reaction and post would be consistent with the law. Just wanted to back it up with how the law should apply.

Tbh, if i just took a child from the mother who has primary custody against her consent i would have a horrible year too. I would feel like a complete idiot and be worried i would be hit with supervised visitation or possibly jailtime for being in contempt.

I can see why it is a heated custody battle. Hes probably fighting tooth and nail to just see the kids. Unless he just throws money at the mom and shes a gold digger then he doesnt stand a chance to get custody if he took the child from the mom for no reason whatsoever.

No worries about tholdren. I like sparring with inferior competition. Its good practice and Practice makes perfect.

[tholdren]

That quote from a bailiff doesnt save your ignorance. Quit being like apo.

My post was talking about my representation of clients in custody battles. Your response was "bailiffs can represent prisoners in san antonio.?"

I didnt say that a bailiff can not be present in a d.r. court.

It is really simple but let me explain it to you like you are 5 years old so it can sink in, troll.There called plaintiffs and defendants in domestic relations court. Not prisoners. Prisoners are those people who commit crimes and that runs through criminal proceedings.

Can a prisoner be in a custody battle? Of course, but its not going to me much of a battle. Judges typically dont grant custody to someone if they are currently in prison.

So technically i was correct. You could have saved yourself lots o typing

[rastaspur]

So technically i was correct. You could have saved yourself lots o typing

Not in the slightest. A prisoner is merely a plaintiff or defendant in the domestic relations setting. He is not a prisoner. That nomenclature applies elsewhere. The fact that a prisoner can wear multiple hats in differing courts does not make you technically correct.

I would think this would be easy to comprehend and digest for someone who mastered quantum physics in kindergarten

[duncan2k5]

Wow...an undersized SG that cant shoot, nor play defense and folds in big games...great job FO

[TimDunkem]

Wow...an undersized SG that cant shoot, nor play defense and folds in big games...great job FO

[spurraider21]

he can shoot in theory, but not in practice... well he can probably shoot at practice. but not in games that matter

[superbigtime]

Terrible signing. Stupid.

[Chinook]

I keep seeing that Forbes and Beli have a 1+1, is that confirmed anywhere?

No. In fact, Forbes' deal is almost certainly not a 1-and-1, and Bertans' definitely is not. It's illegal to have options on a two-year deal signed with EB rights. Forbes' deal might be small enough to fit into the LLE, but that would be a waste just for an option. The best we could hope for is that those second years are not guaranteed so the team could waive them if they need cap space. Otherwise, it's just wishful thinking.

[BackHome]

We have a ton of guard who is the backup to Old Man Gasol and Joffrey and Anderson??? Wish they would stop playing around and sign Nikola cause at Gaysols age he is going to be missing a lot of games. Or maybe they trying to be sly on the whole let’s tank thing.

[apalisoc_9]

bump

Spot the sniffers

[apalisoc_9]

We need shooters.


I liked Forbes last year except his shot wasn’t falling. Worth the gamble at a low minimum contract.


I actually agree with this....UNLESS PATFO is merely going rebuild. In which case, there are no problems bringing in a G Leaguer to see how they progress.

smdh

[spurraider21]

so we sign shitty gary neal to a 2 year deal

[spurraider21]

this is the worst part of an offseason that includes the kawhi stuff tbh


he's so redundant with patty (and inferior) that this signing only makes sense if patty is about to be included in a kawhi deal

[objective]

how do i not get quoted?


This is awful

Terrible defender who will be gifted minutes ahead of better players with more potential

I don't care if it's for the minimum either, which it should be

There's no more money on the market. More than the minimum is another sign after Marco that RC will get totally destroyed in the Kawhi trade, having only been saved so far by dumb luck


Forbes will get a chance to at SG and PG before White

Pop loves his shitball three guard lineups.

I expect way too much Mills-Forbes-Marco lineup minutes giving up 140 points per 100 possessions


Forbes is such trash that the Spurs would be better off signing Jeff Ledbetter. Let him be emergency point guard and Lonnie is the shooter at sg.

[timtonymanu]

I'm guessing it's 2/$4M. Re-signing him is only somewhat justifiable if, 1) Mills is included in a Leonard trade, 2) He's behind every guard on the roster and is basically just an insurance policy . . . unfortunately, I have no confidence in both of those things happening.

More likely, it's a waste of a roster spot, further buries Walker and we'll be seeing plenty of lineups where there's multiple undersized, relatively unathletic guards together, who can't create or play defense.

:wow

[timtonymanu]

Couldn’t find one sniffer take in this thread. Pretty much everyone hated the deal.

Funny that Forbes was actually on everyone’s good side for the most part all of last season and last offseason.

[tbdog]

Couldn’t find one sniffer take in this thread. Pretty much everyone hated the deal.

Funny that Forbes was actually on everyone’s good side for the most part all of last season and last offseason.

Injuries to two guards and Walker being too raw meant we were very surprised with how Forbes played. However scouting reports are out and teams know how to defend and attack him.

[RC_Drunkford]

This is worse than the Kawhi news. At least we'll get something back for Kawhi....

Forbes is subtraction by addition and will fuck the dev of our actually promising young players playing time.


Might need to drug test PATFO tbh


In before PATFO fluffers try their hardest to polish this turd :lmao



And people wonder why Kawhi wants out. He's tired of carrying these pathetic faggots on both sides of the ball. We got some real defensive specialist in Mills, Forbes and Pau. And don't forget the gritty Belinell:loli.


if he is 10-12 man he will not be bad
if he is 6 man terrible
10 minutes a game a most use him in garabage time



He gets my vote for being the worse defensive player in the NBA.



SMH. Just when I thought these fuckers had learnt.



I guess PATFO were determined to have at least one player on the roster who has no business being in the NBA. It's a tradition, established by Bonner, carried over into Ayres, and now it's Forbes. Second longest active franchise streak after our playoff streak, tbh.

Almost everybody saw it coming :lmao