Kawh's career will crash and burn from here.. Mark my words..

[spursistan]

May sound like sour grapes, but I honestly don't think this guy has the self-confidence, judgment, and health to deal with the coming adversity.

He engaged in a charade that's x1000 more disgraceful than KD's, except he won't be walking into the comfort of a 73-win team. When the slings and arrows start coming his way, don't be surprised, if he just.....quits.

[spursistan]

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How fucked up this dude is? :lmao..

[KDKSpurs24]

Karma is about to be a bitch to Kawhi. I wanted him to be an all time great before all of this BS. Watch DeMar DeRozan work extremely hard to improve his game and come out even better (I hope).

[RD2191]

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How fucked up this dude is? :lmao..

Career suicide tbh

[Mr. Body]

Kawhi is completely fucked in the head.

[BD24]

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How fucked up this dude is? :lmao..
Does he realize he isn’t a free agent next year if he does this :lol

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Best case scenario he sits out, loses his entire year's salary, fucks over player-centric contracts for next generation, then gets into a car wreck that screws up his knee and he can never play again.

[HarlemHeat37]

I don't think Kawhi and his people have looked into the CBA:lol

[kobyz]

he's gonna force his way out from toronto in a trade to the lakers for peanuts!!!! Magic is a genius!!

[SuperCam]

this is a world where a white supremacist reality tv host can become POTUS tbh, just thing doesn't always happen. I expect kiwi will win 1-2 rings with the Kang out west while he gets to be a #2

[boutons_deux]

what self-screwing disaster KL and his "group" have created, on top of KL's tragic chronic disability.

10s if not 100s of $Ms lost

[rascal]

Kawhi will get the last laugh when he is on the Lakers.

Toronto will cave and accept the Lakers trash.

[TheGreatYacht]

This is going to be a great bump :lmao

[rascal]

Career suicide tbh

Nope
forcing his way to the Lakers.

[TheGreatYacht]

Sean Deveney :lmao

[SuperCam]

Kawhi will get the last laugh when he is on the Lakers.

Toronto will cave and accept the Lakers trash.

this tbh. get one of his doctors to say his quad bone is acting up and he can sit out without violating cba. toronto will cave and accept Deng+Hart+Lavarson by the trade deadline

[loveforthegame]

Time will tell, obviously, but this crash and burn without SA sounds like wishful thinking.

[HarlemHeat37]

he's gonna force his way out from toronto in a trade to the lakers for peanuts!!!! Magic is a genius!!

Magic? If that occurs, it's likely the NBA, ESPN and affiliates forcing it:lol

It wouldn't be shocking if the Spurs declined the bag, but Toronto takes it..NBA is desperate for Kawhi in LA, their current roster is borderline playoffs..

[spurraider21]

Magic? If that occurs, it's likely the NBA, ESPN and affiliates forcing it:lol

It wouldn't be shocking if the Spurs declined the bag, but Toronto takes it .
why are you responding to kobyz tbh :lol

[BatManu20]

Nah he's going to win a ring or two with Lebron in LA tbh.

[Hoops Czar]

Toronto knows exactly what they're doing. They'll have tons of cap space next year to go after free agents while the Spurs will be in tax hell. This was a pure salary dump by the Raptors. They wanted to get of DeRozen and they got one year of Kawhi as a gift.

[Hoops Czar]

Magic? If that occurs, it's likely the NBA, ESPN and affiliates forcing it:lol

It wouldn't be shocking if the Spurs declined the bag, but Toronto takes it..NBA is desperate for Kawhi in LA, their current roster is borderline playoffs..
Where he plays this year is irrelavent. We know where he'll be next season.

[HarlemHeat37]

Where he plays this year is irrelavent. We know where he'll be next season.

Of course..I was just referring to the possibility of trading him mid-season, especially if the Lakers disappoint..

This move was great for Toronto in every way..it also gave Masai an excuse to dump DeRozan's terrible contract..

[dbreiden83080]

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How fucked up this dude is? :lmao..

It's over. Deal with it. Sitting out will not happen..

[BillMc]

Nah he's going to win a ring or two with Lebron in LA tbh.

Doubt they can get by the Dubs. Maybe with some injuries.

[timtonymanu]

OP with the Dan Gilbert goods.

[RD2191]

OP with the Dan Gilbert goods.

Tbh :lmao

[YGWHI]

Doubt they can get by the Dubs. Maybe with some injuries.
Warriors have to deal with Klay and Dray next season...I guess they will reject extensions this offseason if they don't get BIG money.

I guess this next regular season is the last year of the dominat GSW we know..

Also, this is why I said neither Spurs-Kawhi's camp read this correctly. Offering the sumpermax to Kawhi could have been a big gamble but both sides could win it all in this league next seasons without this super-Warriors on the map.

[TheGreatYacht]

OP with the Dan Gilbert goods.
LMFAOOOOO

[Phenomanul]

Maybe the Spurs sign Zaza and watch as he takes out Kawhi the next time the Spurs face him...

[spursistan]

OP with the Dan Gilbert goods.
LOL @ thinking he is Lebron good..He might go coattail him in LA, though..

[BatManu20]

Doubt they can get by the Dubs. Maybe with some injuries.

Dubs are going to lose one of KD, Klay, or Draymond next summer. They can't afford all 3. If/when the warriors win it all again next year, I could see some of those guys wanting a different challenge. That team could look a whole lot different after next summer.

[BillMc]

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How fucked up this dude is? :lmao..

Kawhi seems to have trouble with the basic concept of a contract.

[apalisoc_9]

This is going to be a great bump :lmao

Yup.

[Trainwreck2100]

Best case scenario he sits out, loses his entire year's salary, fucks over player-centric contracts for next generation, signs a max contract with Lakersthen gets into a car wreck that screws up his knee and he can never play again.

this is the brightest timeline tbqh

[dbreiden83080]

Kawhi seems to have trouble with the basic concept of a contract.

It is over you clown. Enjoy the cold weather and good luck on that new Shoe Deal in Toronto LOL..

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Toronto knows exactly what they're doing. They'll have tons of cap space next year to go after free agents while the Spurs will be in tax hell. This was a pure salary dump by the Raptors. They wanted to get of DeRozen and they got one year of Kawhi as a gift.

Really? :lmao

Some of the new greys might buy it but 0/10 otherwise.

[loveforthegame]

Is Sporting News the only one reporting Kawhi plans to it out?

[Hoops Czar]

Really? :lmao

Some of the new greys might buy it but 0/10 otherwise.

Don't kid yourself. Pau is going to see every dime that he's owed and then he'll be re-signed. keep living the dream though.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Don't kid yourself. Pau is going to see every dime that he's owed and then he'll be re-signed. keep living the dream though.

And Spurs would STILL have more cap space than Toronto next summer.

[Arcadian]

Probably, yeah.

He has a degenerative leg disease and missed a full season of his prime. Not a good place to be.

[cool cat]

I think it will be like Derrick Rose, a few moments where you think he might be back but mostly filled with injures and lost potential

[buttsR4rebounding]

this tbh. get one of his doctors to say his quad bone is acting up and he can sit out without violating cba. toronto will cave and accept Deng+Hart+Lavarson by the trade deadline

The CBA has a provision for that. The team can request an independent medical examiner. One that the Raptors approve. If Kawhi's group doesn't approve someone acceptable to the Raptors then the League will chose the ME. If the ME says he can play then if Kawhi misses more than 30 days than he loses his free agency at the end of the year.

[cjw]

The league - especially Vlade - need to stand pat and make the Lakers eat that Deng contract or stretch him next offseason. Make them have to lose even more young pieces if they do in fact want to pair 60 game a year Kawhi with 35 year old Lebron.

[ducks]

I hope he plays well for raptors
signs with lakers and then needs surgery waste more years with james
and lakers strapped with his contract

[noles1983]

I hope his ACL's crash and burn, tbh.

[Hoops Czar]

And Spurs would STILL have more cap space than Toronto next summer.

You must be under the assumption that Valenciunas is a lock to opt in and Green and Leonard will re-sign.

[spurraider21]

would be spectacular theater if actually refuses the medical

[DJR210]

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How fucked up this dude is? :lmao..

Kawhi can't just sit because he's pouting.. He won't be able to opt out the following year according to CBA rules if he withholds services. His uncle is going to end up costing this clown even more money. Does his camp really wanna get into a legal battle in arbitration over being a little bitch?

[slick'81]

Probably lead toronto to the finals tbh

[Mikeanaro]

Uncle Dennis is not laughing Im pretty sure, but this will be the year we´ll see if K-Tard can play 40 minutes per game, and what can he do outside Spurs´ system.

[Mikeanaro]

Dress warm


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY_bNqakK_c

[HarlemHeat37]

Really hope there's a 30 for 30 on this one day:lol

[Mikeanaro]

Kawhi seems to have trouble with the basic concept of a contract.
I think his whole family have trouble with that concept, maybe his dad had the same issue...

[baseline bum]

Kawhi can't just sit because he's pouting.. He won't be able to opt out the following year according to CBA rules if he withholds services. His uncle is going to end up costing this clown even more money. Does his camp really wanna get into a legal battle in arbitration over being a little bitch?

If he files retirement papers he can be a free agent in a year. It would be hilarious since he wouldn't get paid a cent for it.

[Maddog]

The CBA has a provision for that. The team can request an independent medical examiner. One that the Raptors approve. If Kawhi's group doesn't approve someone acceptable to the Raptors then the League will chose the ME. If the ME says he can play then if Kawhi misses more than 30 days than he loses his free agency at the end of the year.

It's really hard to figure out what went south between the Spurs and KL camp- though the more I read I think more fault lies with KL and Co.
I wonder if the Spurs had been more hardline what would have happened? Could they have requested an independent examiner last year or does it only apply during contract years. It really does look like he and his camp screwed the Spurs over royally.

Essentially sat out a year then demanded a trade to a specific team killing leverage.

[8FOR!3]

I get why DeRozan is pissed, committed himself to the franchise longterm and then was traded for a guy who absolutely doesn't want to be there.

[Mikeanaro]

I get why DeRozan is pissed, committed himself to the franchise longterm and then was traded for a guy who absolutely doesn't want to be there.
According to reports they tried to swap him for Wiggins during last summer.

[8FOR!3]

According to reports they tried to swap him for Wiggins during last summer.

That's bizarre Wiggins' upside is probably lower at this point than what DeRozan is now.

[Russ]

If he files retirement papers he can be a free agent in a year. It would be hilarious since he wouldn't get paid a cent for it.

Here is what the CBA says:


Section 3. Withholding Services.

A player who withholds playing services called for by a Player Contract
for more than thirty (30) days after the start of the last Season covered by
his Player Contract shall be deemed not to have “complet[ed] his Player
Contract by rendering the playing services called for thereunder.”
Accordingly, such a player shall not be a Veteran Free Agent and shall not
be entitled to negotiate or sign a Player Contract with any other
professional basketball team unless and until the Team for which the
player last played expressly agrees otherwise.

Why would this not mean that KL can never become a free agent until he fulfills the last year of his Raptors contract?

[baseline bum]

Here is what the CBA says:



Why would this not mean that KL can never become a free agent until he fulfills the last year of his Raptors contract?

You're right, I was remembering what happened with Jason Williams incorrectly. From the Washington Post:


For one, he can’t simply retire for a while and then pop up on a new team of his choice, at least not easily. As laid down by the NBA constitution, any player who announces his retirement gets his name placed on his team’s voluntary retired list, and he’s not allowed to play again (or get paid) for one year following the day he’s put on the list, unless the NBA Board of Governors (the league’s 30 owners, in other words) votes unanimously to allow it. If the player wishes to return, the team he last played for gets first dibs on his services. If that team passes, the player would then go through the league’s waiver process, meaning Leonard could again see his reported plan to join his hometown Los Angeles Lakers foiled.

This came up previously in 2008, when guard Jason Williams signed with the Clippers in the offseason but decided to retire on the eve of training camp. He then changed his mind, applying for reinstatement in early 2009, but the Board of Governors voted, 24-6, against him. Williams would end up sitting out the calendar year and signing with the Orlando Magic in August 2009.

[bic50]

I think his whole family have trouble with that concept, maybe his dad had the same issue...
Mocking his deceased father now? Damn

[hater]

:lmao damn

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[RD2191]

:lmao damn

1019684425309802496

That's a fake account, dumbass.

[DJR210]

If he files retirement papers he can be a free agent in a year. It would be hilarious since he wouldn't get paid a cent for it.

He won't do it, but no way it can be that easy to fuck his employer..

[DJR210]

You're right, I was remembering what happened with Jason Williams incorrectly. From the Washington Post:

Knew it.. I'm no expert in every detail of the CBA but knew it couldnt be as easy as you were saying

[spurraider21]

That's a fake account, dumbass.
that's hater for you

[Lostwingman]

Career suicide tbh

I want his Uncle to think that's a good idea soo badly.

[SuperCam]

The CBA has a provision for that. The team can request an independent medical examiner. One that the Raptors approve. If Kawhi's group doesn't approve someone acceptable to the Raptors then the League will chose the ME. If the ME says he can play then if Kawhi misses more than 30 days than he loses his free agency at the end of the year.

then kiwi threatens to have surgery to "clean out his knee" or some bullshit and doesn't have to play anyways

[DieHardSpursFan1537]

I cannot believe the Raptors actually did this trade. Kawhi is bad news and no one even knows if he will ever get back to his former self after the shenanigans and injury nightmares that went down last season.

[DMC]

He will be fine.

[DMC]

I cannot believe the Raptors actually did this trade. Kawhi is bad news and no one even knows if he will ever get back to his former self after the shenanigans and injury nightmares that went down last season.

Yeah but KL is a one year deal. They shed DeRozan's shitty contract and acquired someone to make them look like they are serious about improving, and to remove some heat from them for shit canning the CotY.

[baseline bum]

I cannot believe the Raptors actually did this trade. Kawhi is bad news and no one even knows if he will ever get back to his former self after the shenanigans and injury nightmares that went down last season.

Faggot is not hurt, he held out.

[Mugen]

:lol He'll be fine, but here's hoping the Air Canada center doesn't dry the ice completely and we see an achilles tear for the nephew next year tbh

[DMC]

That's a fake account, dumbass.

Columbian favela master not knowing that "repot" and "report" aren't the same words.

[baseline bum]

:lol He'll be fine, but here's hoping the Air Canada center doesn't dry the ice completely and we see an achilles tear for the nephew next year tbh

:bobo

[SnakeBoy]

Is there anything to stop Toronto from turning around and trading Mute for whatever scraps they can get from Magic?

[baseline bum]

Is there anything to stop Toronto from turning around and trading Mute for whatever scraps they can get from Magic?

I think they would have to wait something like 60 days. They'd almost certainly have to take Deng's contract.

[spursistan]

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He will be bankrupt by age 40 if he doesn't throw that uncle under a Toronto bus soon..

[Marcus Bryant]

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How fucked up this dude is? :lmao..

Enjoy not being paid. Could the Raptors fine him on top of suspending without pay?

[spursistan]

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He will be bankrupt by age 40 if he doesn't throw that uncle under a Toronto bus soon..
Thinking they could make up 80 millions living in LA under Lebron shadow with a client having the personality of an old running shoe..:lol

[Marcus Bryant]

He'll have to play, holding out on two franchises indicates the problem lies with you.

[hater]

He'll have to play, holding out on two franchises indicates the problem lies with you.

You make it sem like tou think he gives a shit

[BillMc]

As long as Uncle Dennis ends up in Canadian prison getting his daily "back bacon" from some Alberta cowboy, I'm cool with it.

#IMPEACHUNCLEDENNIS

[spurs10]

As long as Uncle Dennis ends up in Canadian prison getting his daily "back bacon" from some Alberta cowboy, I'm cool with it.

#IMPEACHUNCLEDENNIS :lol Y'know he'll be getting a little "poutine" on the side in that lock-up. Might have to change his name to Aunt Dennis!

[BillMc]

:lol Y'know he'll be getting a little "poutine" on the side in that lock-up. Might have to change his name to Aunt Dennis!
:lol

[Mikeanaro]

Mocking his deceased father now? Damn
Mocking? did you know his dad?

[rasuo214]

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He will be bankrupt by age 40 if he doesn't throw that uncle under a Toronto bus soon..

Unless he doesn't get another contract after a 4 year max then he doesn't lose $80M it'll be more like $40M. Which is still a lot and I think there are ways he can maximize his earnings even more but signing a short term deal (2+1) then a long term deal. Still a risky move.

[loveforthegame]

Enjoy not being paid. Could the Raptors fine him on top of suspending without pay?

Woj and Chris Haynes both report that Leonard will be in camp and will play. While not thrilled with the trade he is warming up to playing for a contender in Toronto. Woj also said that Leonard still wants LA next season so it's up to the Raps to recruit/pitch him to stay like OKC/George. Leonard is still considering going to USA mini camp too.

Masai Ujiri is expected back in Toronto tomorrow and the press conference is on Friday. One of the reporters who cover the Raptors said Leonard is going to be there.

Not saying Sean Deveney didn't hear what he heard but I think that was someone stirring the pot. I'll trust Woj and Haynes over this Sporting News thing.

[FireMicoHalili]

There’s a possibility Kawhi still plays this season and actually regains his FMVP form if he spends time meticulously rehabbing that quad. No use getting angry at the player when it’s clear the uncle is the one that caused all this mess. Pachulia deserves our ire too and I would gladly sign a 10-day to wreck his ankles and land a haymaker on his ugly ass face.

More curious as to other stories about the awful uncle. Michael Wright and Chris Sheridan mentioned they have more intel than they were willing to share before the trade. One of them probably would be the fact his uncle requested a position in the front office as previously intimated.

And what about Jabari’s cred? Said on the podcast the Toronto trade is ridiculous and wouldn’t make sense for both sides. I’ll be damned if anyone actually buys his takes from here on. Price you pay for being a mouthpiece.

[BillMc]

Woj and Chris Haynes both report that Leonard will be in camp and will play. While not thrilled with the trade he is warming up to playing for a contender in Toronto. Woj also said that Leonard still wants LA next season so it's up to the Raps to recruit/pitch him to stay like OKC/George. Leonard is still considering going to USA mini camp too.

Masai Ujiri is expected back in Toronto tomorrow and the press conference is on Friday. One of the reporters who cover the Raptors said Leonard is going to be there.

Not saying Sean Deveney didn't hear what he heard but I think that was someone stirring the pot. I'll trust Woj and Haynes over this Sporting News thing.

Good, we want Toronto to be a top 10 team so we can get that pick.

[SpurOutofTownFan]

It's very hard to find a similar case in modern professional sports really - only explanation is that he's mentally weak

[rascal]

There’s a possibility Kawhi still plays this season and actually regains his FMVP form if he spends time meticulously rehabbing that quad. No use getting angry at the player when it’s clear the uncle is the one that caused all this mess. Pachulia deserves our ire too and I would gladly sign a 10-day to wreck his ankles and land a haymaker on his ugly ass face.

More curious as to other stories about the awful uncle. Michael Wright and Chris Sheridan mentioned they have more intel than they were willing to share before the trade. One of them probably would be the fact his uncle requested a position in the front office as previously intimated.

And what about Jabari’s cred? Said on the podcast the Toronto trade is ridiculous and wouldn’t make sense for both sides. I’ll be damned if anyone actually buys his takes from here on. Price you pay for being a mouthpiece.

Kawhi is behind it all. He is not a child.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Kawhi is completely fucked in the head.

Honestly, this about perfectly sums it up - it's almost laughable at this point. Dude needs help.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Woj and Chris Haynes both report that Leonard will be in camp and will play. While not thrilled with the trade he is warming up to playing for a contender in Toronto. Woj also said that Leonard still wants LA next season so it's up to the Raps to recruit/pitch him to stay like OKC/George. Leonard is still considering going to USA mini camp too.

Masai Ujiri is expected back in Toronto tomorrow and the press conference is on Friday. One of the reporters who cover the Raptors said Leonard is going to be there.

Not saying Sean Deveney didn't hear what he heard but I think that was someone stirring the pot. I'll trust Woj and Haynes over this Sporting News thing.

It'd be pretty sweet for Kawhi to not play and for Pop and Co. to win gold without him.

[TheGreatYacht]

OP is my nigga, but damn :lol

The only one that will crash and burn in this fairy tale will be RC Buford. The drunk fuck created rosters that were first round fodder in the years before Kawhi got here and that's what he will do from here on out. The faggot got lucky Toronto took Valenciunas off the board when the Spurs/Pacers drafted Kawhi, because that was his guy. Leave it to Alpha GM Ujiri to end up with Kawhi anyways :wow

[daslicer]

OP is my nigga, but damn :lol

The only one that will crash and burn in this fairy tale will be RC Buford. The drunk fuck created rosters that were first round fodder in the years before Kawhi got here and that's what he will do from here on out. The faggot got lucky Toronto took Valenciunas off the board when the Spurs/Pacers drafted Kawhi, because that was his guy. Leave it to Alpha GM Ujiri to end up with Kawhi anyways :wow

RC will be fine he's rich 100 times over from the Duncan years. Your obsession with wanting to see him suffer is retarded. RC pretty much has lifetime pass to do whatever.

[Hoops Czar]

RC will be fine he's rich 100 times over from the Duncan years. Your obsession with wanting to see him suffer is retarded. RC pretty much has lifetime pass to do whatever.
And yet, he's probably the most overpaid secretary in professional sports.

[TheGreatYacht]

And yet, he's probably the most overpaid secretary in professional sports.
:lol

[TimDunkem]

RC will be fine he's rich 100 times over from the Duncan years. Your obsession with wanting to see him suffer is retarded. RC pretty much has lifetime pass to do whatever.


:lol

Truth bomb, tbh. He is essentially Gregg Popovich's glorified secretary. I've been saying it for years.

[MaNu4Tres]

Hes still a top 3 player.

DeRozan is actually really good too so its not so bad.

What is bad though is this pathetic roster outside of LA, DeRozan, The 3 young rooks. Okay Metu, Bertans, and Forbes are okay too.

They invested time & 20 million into a player who came off torn Achilles. Then they gave 100 million to Pau & Patty. Then they just used the MLE on Euro Jamal Crawford without the dancing.

Im sorry but most of this board overrates Belinelli & Patty. Both are shooters who are overall pretty irrelevant & noneffective in todays NBA.

[TimDunkem]

Hes still a top 3 player.

DeRozan is actually really good too so its not so bad.

What is bad though is this pathetic roster outside of LA, DeRozan, The 3 young rooks. Okay Metu, Bertans, and Forbes are okay too.

They invested time & 20 million into a player who came off torn Achilles. Then they gave 100 million to Pau & Patty. Then they just used the MLE on Euro Jamal Crawford without the dancing.

Im sorry but most of this board overrates Belinelli & Patty. Both are shooters who are overall pretty irrelevant & noneffective in todays NBA.

But, but, but this FO DOESN'T make mistakes!

[objective]

Did people really think he was injured?

Kawhi averaged 4 steals a game his last 3 games for the Spurs, led them in advanced stats and was clearly their best player despite being rusty. He quit and ran off, he wasn't hurt.

[daslicer]

Did people really think he was injured?

Kawhi averaged 4 steals a game his last 3 games for the Spurs, led them in advanced stats and was clearly their best player despite being rusty. He quit and ran off, he wasn't hurt.

Agreed I have argued the same points a bunch of times in here.

[slick'81]

Hes still a top 3 player.

DeRozan is actually really good too so its not so bad.

What is bad though is this pathetic roster outside of LA, DeRozan, The 3 young rooks. Okay Metu, Bertans, and Forbes are okay too.

They invested time & 20 million into a player who came off torn Achilles. Then they gave 100 million to Pau & Patty. Then they just used the MLE on Euro Jamal Crawford without the dancing.

Im sorry but most of this board overrates Belinelli & Patty. Both are shooters who are overall pretty irrelevant & noneffective in todays NBA.


Everybody knows this.The future is not exactly the brightest right now especially after kawhi screwing the spurs getting anything relevant in a trade besides a 30 y/ o derozan

[Fusternino]

Did people really think he was injured?

Kawhi averaged 4 steals a game his last 3 games for the Spurs, led them in advanced stats and was clearly their best player despite being rusty. He quit and ran off, he wasn't hurt.

Yeah, he played great. Didn't have his legs under him but just needed to play himself into shape. He's a quitter.

[R to the P McMurphy]

Hes a pussy. I still love watching him, as I've found out the first few games, but he's a bitch. End of story. But all of us should be prepared for him to drop a 50 point game because he's going to do it. It is what it is.

[bic50]

Yeah, he played great. Didn't have his legs under him but just needed to play himself into shape. He's a quitter.
He's not a quitter. He never quit trying to get out of s.a

[Fusternino]

He's not a quitter. He never quit trying to get out of s.a

LOL!

[TheGreatYacht]

Winningest player in NBA history doing winningest player in NBA history things, tbh...

5-0 (100.0%)

28ppg, 7.8rpg, 2.5apg, 51.2FG%, 47.4 3P%, 89.5FT%

[eDizzle20]

Kawhi hasn’t missed a beat. That steal last night though.

[james evans]

Like I said in another thread, Kawhi is the smart one. He got out of San Antonio because he saw the bullshit they were surrounding him with. Popovich doesn't want good players. He wants robots that kiss his ass to inflate his ego

[K...]

Like I said in another thread, Kawhi is the smart one. He got out of San Antonio because he saw the bullshit they were surrounding him with. Popovich doesn't want good players. He wants robots that kiss his ass to inflate his ego

Just following Durant footsteps though.

[Jsmoothexpress]

Just following Durant footsteps though.
How?? Yea he went to a team better than us but it’s nothing like Durant did. He was a hoe for sitting out all but nine games last year but hey it’s over with and both team and player have went there separate ways.

[K...]

How?? Yea he went to a team better than us but it’s nothing like Durant did. He was a hoe for sitting out all but nine games last year but hey it’s over with and both team and player have went there separate ways.

You're right, Durant was more honorable. I'm just saying thisa trend. It's not all San Antonio.

[Brunodf]

People are so emotional about Kawhi, this is the same player that cost TD a ring and FMVP in 2013( kinda made up for it in 2k14 though).

Same guy who disappeared in the playoffs in 2015/2016 when he was expected to be the 1st option.

Kawhi didn't wanna play for the Spurs anymore and the Spurs accepted the best offer they got, there's no way they were keeping him.

[K...]

It's going to be interesting when kawhi is eventually is coached to say that pop promised him the offense and then forced my touches down his throat. Whether he comes off petty or not, it's though to accept that two good players refused to set aside they're iso ways to establish a good offense to best the warriors. The warriors forced the team into a win now mode that made building around kawhi less appealing.

Winning with the raptors is going to be his main arguments but i can see the same ugliness come back up if the raptors try to resign him or he goes to a team with more demands for broader offensive actions then drive and Chuck

[Dverde]

People are so emotional about Kawhi, this is the same player that cost TD a ring and FMVP in 2013( kinda made up for it in 2k14 though).

Same guy who disappeared in the playoffs in 2015/2016 when he was expected to be the 1st option.

Kawhi didn't wanna play for the Spurs anymore and the Spurs accepted the best offer they got, there's no way they were keeping him.

Also people keep forgetting that the Spurs had to do the deal before Uncle Dennis tried to blow it up. Nephew didn’t want to go to Toronto. I get OG would have been better than Poodle.

[JeffDuncan]

People are so emotional about Kawhi, this is the same player that cost TD a ring and FMVP in 2013( kinda made up for it in 2k14 though).

What a stupid, ignorant lie.

Manu lost us that series, sad to say. He had 8 - count em - 8 turnovers in that game 6 the Spurs lost when the trophy had been rolled out to courtside to give it to the Spurs, and they had to just roll it away.

Pop's coaching was crap in that game, too.

[Brunodf]

What a stupid, ignorant lie.

Manu lost us that series, sad to say. He had 8 - count em - 8 turnovers in that game 6 the Spurs lost when the trophy had been rolled out to courtside to give it to the Spurs, and they had to just roll it away.

Pop's coaching was crap in that game, too.
Manu also singlehandly won game 5 and that was the reason they were up 3-2 though. Agree about Pop being bad that series.

[RD2191]

People are so emotional about Kawhi, this is the same player that cost TD a ring and FMVP in 2013( kinda made up for it in 2k14 though).

Same guy who disappeared in the playoffs in 2015/2016 when he was expected to be the 1st option.

Kawhi didn't wanna play for the Spurs anymore and the Spurs accepted the best offer they got, there's no way they were keeping him.

Lmfaooooo. Please go fuck yourself.

[Jsmoothexpress]

You're right, Durant was more honorable. I'm just saying thisa trend. It's not all San Antonio.
Yea, it’s the day and time where players move on there own accord. Part of me says it’s ok since it’s there future and career. The other part of me feel it should definitely be more consideration taken into account. Like not going to more established teams or rivals. My honest opinion the only time it should happen or be accepted is towards the end of ones career when there less productive and just chasing rings at that point. No player in their prime whose competitive should want to link up with other superstars.

[james evans]

People are so emotional about Kawhi, this is the same player that cost TD a ring and FMVP in 2013( kinda made up for it in 2k14 though).

Same guy who disappeared in the playoffs in 2015/2016 when he was expected to be the 1st option.

Kawhi didn't wanna play for the Spurs anymore and the Spurs accepted the best offer they got, there's no way they were keeping him.
popovich put a 60% freethrow shooter in the game to ice it with seconds left. We were coming out of a time out and Popovich the genius put a 60% FREETHROW SHOOTER IN THE GAME TO FINISH IT!!! I don't know if you're familiar with FT percentages, but 60% is bad.

[duncan2k5]

People are so emotional about Kawhi, this is the same player that cost TD a ring and FMVP in 2013( kinda made up for it in 2k14 though).

Same guy who disappeared in the playoffs in 2015/2016 when he was expected to be the 1st option.

Kawhi didn't wanna play for the Spurs anymore and the Spurs accepted the best offer they got, there's no way they were keeping him.

Pop cost the ring when he sat Duncan... Who the fuk does that??

[duncan2k5]

It's going to be interesting when kawhi is eventually is coached to say that pop promised him the offense and then forced my touches down his throat. Whether he comes off petty or not, it's though to accept that two good players refused to set aside they're iso ways to establish a good offense to best the warriors. The warriors forced the team into a win now mode that made building around kawhi less appealing.

Winning with the raptors is going to be his main arguments but i can see the same ugliness come back up if the raptors try to resign him or he goes to a team with more demands for broader offensive actions then drive and Chuck

Huh? We were DOMINATING the warriors with how Kawhi was playing... U can ask for better than how we played against them... What more did u want from Kawhi?

[spurs1990]

Does it tick anyone else off that Leonard is playing like he Hasn't missed a step. Almost as if he didn't miss a whole season starting right before training camp to a mysterious injury?

Leonard and/or his managers played the Spurs like a fiddle.
No Spurs fan can overlook that based on all evidence presented.

[Fusternino]

Does it tick anyone else off that Leonard is playing like he Hasn't missed a step. Almost as if he didn't miss a whole season starting right before training camp to a mysterious injury?

Leonard and/or his managers played the Spurs like a fiddle.
No Spurs fan can overlook that based on all evidence presented.

Spurs need to go after Magic for tampering and sue Kawhi for last year's salary. Saying nothing hurts them more than thinking free agents won't want to sign here.

[therealtruth]

popovich put a 60% freethrow shooter in the game to ice it with seconds left. We were coming out of a time out and Popovich the genius put a 60% FREETHROW SHOOTER IN THE GAME TO FINISH IT!!! I don't know if you're familiar with FT percentages, but 60% is bad.

Pop made so many mistakes on those last few possessions. You could literally play that scenario over 200 times and only lose once if you look at the stats.

[MultiTroll]

Does it tick anyone else off that Leonard is playing like he Hasn't missed a step. Almost as if he didn't miss a whole season starting right before training camp to a mysterious injury?

Leonard and/or his managers played the Spurs like a fiddle.
No Spurs fan can overlook that based on all evidence presented.
I'm not defending Leonard, and am condemning his Silent Treatment M.O. That was bullshit.
Having said that, I don't know that we'll ever know what truly came down with the injury.
Possible it was certainly better in late 17/early 18, but the extra 8 months he took (some legit healing? + completely shitting on the Spurs?) gave the injury enough time to completely heal?

[therealtruth]

Like I said in another thread, Kawhi is the smart one. He got out of San Antonio because he saw the bullshit they were surrounding him with. Popovich doesn't want good players. He wants robots that kiss his ass to inflate his ego

Pop's got to look into the mirror at some point. First LMA and then Kawhi. Most coaches don't get away with alienating their star players. Pop's the only one that can do that.

[TDMVPDPOY]

Pop cost the ring when he sat Duncan... Who the fuk does that??

pop wanted to prove the world, win my way or the highway...wtf was he trying to prove anyway? can win without duncan in final possession?

if he loses, he makes up some lame excuse, its just basketball...doesnt fkn take the blame for it

[SpursDynasty85]

pop wanted to prove the world, win my way or the highway...wtf was he trying to prove anyway? can win without duncan in final possession?

if he loses, he makes up some lame excuse, its just basketball...doesnt fkn take the blame for it

That's so dumb. Duncan couldn't gaurd the perimeter anyway and Bosh and everyone on that floor could hit a 3. It was a smart play. Hindsight always 20/20.

[paperboy77]

I hope that fucker fails terribly at the end THIS year. No injury or anythings just a shitty end to the season. Just need some payback for him fukin the spurs. After that we're cool. "Tell your bitch to be cool!"... " Be cool honey-bunny..." After a scenario like that then i would even welcome that bitch back.


Cadence Owens is baddass! Role model. Just saw her on fox.

[Ice009]

popovich put a 60% freethrow shooter in the game to ice it with seconds left. We were coming out of a time out and Popovich the genius put a 60% FREETHROW SHOOTER IN THE GAME TO FINISH IT!!! I don't know if you're familiar with FT percentages, but 60% is bad.

Yeah, I don't blame Kawhi for those misses. I kept saying that Kawhi was shaky those whole playoffs at the free throw line, and in one game against the Warriors in Oakland, TD had to take Kawhi to half court after he missed a free throw and console him as he looked like a nervous wreck at the line. He shouldn't have been put in the position in the first place. Pop's coaching in the 4th quarter was maybe his worst of all time, especially to close out a Championship game. I was mad as shit when the 4th quarter started with that lineup that he had out on the floor. I wouldn't even play that lineup in a crucial regular season game let a lone a closeout Championship game. It actually still pisses me off that he takes no responsibility for that loss at all. Says the players could have done a lot of stuff better, and that it wasn't the last 27 seconds that cost them the game.

[Dancelot]

You're right, Durant was more honorable. I'm just saying thisa trend. It's not all San Antonio.
Yeah, at least Durant honored his contract with okc.

[JakeCuenca]

Winningest player in NBA history doing winningest player in NBA history things, tbh...

5-0 (100.0%)

28ppg, 7.8rpg, 2.5apg, 51.2FG%, 47.4 3P%, 89.5FT%

Jesus. Brutal shit breh

[RC_Drunkford]

Yeah, I don't blame Kawhi for those misses. I kept saying that Kawhi was shaky those whole playoffs at the free throw line, and in one game against the Warriors in Oakland, TD had to take Kawhi to half court after he missed a free throw and console him as he looked like a nervous wreck at the line. He shouldn't have been put in the position in the first place. Pop's coaching in the 4th quarter was maybe his worst of all time, especially to close out a Championship game. I was mad as shit when the 4th quarter started with that lineup that he had out on the floor. I wouldn't even play that lineup in a crucial regular season game let a lone a closeout Championship game. It actually still pisses me off that he takes no responsibility for that loss at all. Says the players could have done a lot of stuff better, and that it wasn't the last 27 seconds that cost them the game.

As much as he preaches getting over himself, Pop never got over hisself

[therealtruth]

That's so dumb. Duncan couldn't gaurd the perimeter anyway and Bosh and everyone on that floor could hit a 3. It was a smart play. Hindsight always 20/20.

They had a similar sequence against OKC the next year where they needed to guard the perimeter at the end of game 6 and Pop kept TD on the floor and he helped the defense and contesting the shot. In that game 6 in '13, TD was playing like a possessed man in that final game. I have no doubt if he had been on the floor for those final possessions he would have made a difference in addition to helping get the rebound.

[SpursDynasty85]

They had a similar sequence against OKC the next year where they needed to guard the perimeter at the end of game 6 and Pop kept TD on the floor and he helped the defense and contesting the shot. In that game 6 in '13, TD was playing like a possessed man in that final game. I have no doubt if he had been on the floor for those final possessions he would have made a difference in addition to helping get the rebound.

Again HIndsight. Boris Diaw was a darn good defender too at that time. It appeared like a one shot play. Crazy how a tip bounces right into Ray Allen for a corner 3. Anyway. I'm sure Duncan would've done a fine job too but who knows maybe he gets burnt on a pick n roll and they hit a step back 3. Happened all the time at that point in time for Duncan. 20/20.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

I wouldn't call what he's done so far either "crashing" or "burning".

The best thing that could happen for those of us who aren't Laker or Clipper fans would be for Kawhi to win the championship with the Raptors. It might be harder for him to bolt to LA in that situation. I don't think he really cares that he can be the new King of the East if he stays in Toronto, so anything short of a championship with them probably won't affect his plans next summer. Who knows, maybe that wouldn't stop him from leaving either. Can't really predict with that guy.


People have something to pay attention to in the eastern conference this year, which is part of why he's getting so much attention. There's actually a little drama with who will come out of that conference now that LBJ is west.

[RC_Drunkford]

I wouldn't call what he's done so far either "crashing" or "burning".

The best thing that could happen for those of us who aren't Laker or Clipper fans would be for Kawhi to win the championship with the Raptors. It might be harder for him to bolt to LA in that situation. I don't think he really cares that he can be the new King of the East if he stays in Toronto, so anything short of a championship with them probably won't affect his plans next summer. Who knows, maybe that wouldn't stop him from leaving either. Can't really predict with that guy.


People have something to pay attention to in the eastern conference this year, which is part of why he's getting so much attention. There's actually a little drama with who will come out of that conference now that LBJ is west.

I think his uncle really wants him in LA and from what we know, he does what his uncle tells him to do. So it will be very interesting if he resigns with the Raptors

[phxspurfan]

The 5 Stages of Grief

1. Denial
2. Anger
3. Bargaining
4. Depression
5. Acceptance

[TheGreatYacht]

His team is up 71-49 at halftime on the Lakers and he's not playing. He's gotta be laughing right now at the trade

[ElNono]

told y'all niglets the Raptors improvement was all Danny Green...

/bitter GNSF

[SouthTexasRancher]

The Raptors are playing better without KaWho. Out for another game. Seems like I've heard this story before. It looks like his career is already crashing and burning. Crazy Uncle Dennis is watching million$ fly out the window. Uncle Dennis is going to be back on food stamps and living in Section 8 housing if KaWhitter don't get his ass on the court.

[RC_Drunkford]

told y'all niglets the Raptors improvement was all Danny Green...

/bitter GNSF

this is gold:clap

[cutewizard]

Durant was correct......

Kawhi is over rated.........

[kaji157]

I don't want kawhi to get injuried or anything, I just want the Spurs to win it all or at least lose to the champion putting a good fight.
As for kawhi I hope he goes to the Lakers.
Having to put up with that amount of reporters would be his punishment.