How Many Games Does This Team Win Next Season? And What Seed>

[BatManu20]

Initial reactions.


OUT:

- Tony Parker
- Danny Green
- Kyle Anderson
- Joffrey Lauvergne
- *Manu Ginobili (?)



IN:

- DeMar DeRozan
- Jakob Poeltl
- Marco Belinelli
- Lonnie Walker IV
- Dante Cunningham
- Chimezie Metu


• Predict how many games this squad wins in the loaded West next year.

• Predict our seed come playoff time (taking into account Lakers and other teams off-season moves).

[Robz4000]

40 wins, 10th seed.

[Strategic]

54 wins, 4th seed

[spurraider21]

54 wins. 3rd seed

[r0drig0lac]

59w 2nd seed

[mo7888]

50 to 55 wins seeded somewhere between 4th and 6th

[SnakeBoy]

50 to 55 wins seeded somewhere between 4th and 6th

[BatManu20]

52 wins, 4th seed, btw.

[RD2191]

60 2 seed

[Russ]

52.

[playblair]

42 misses playoffs

[Leetonidas]

Forgot Ferrari on your list brah

[NASpurs]

Initial reactions.


OUT:

- Tony Parker
- Danny Green
- Kyle Anderson
- Joffrey Lauvergne
- *Manu Ginobili (?)



IN:

- DeMar DeRozan
- Jakob Poeltl
- Lonnie Walker IV
- Dante Cunningham
- Chimezie Metu


• Predict how many games this squad wins in the loaded West next year.

• Predict our seed come playoff time (taking into account Lakers and other teams off-season moves).

You forgot Ferrari!

[Leetonidas]

Spurs will be at least 4th. I could see them ending up as high as 2 though because the spurs do have some talent and youth on the roster and with Pop spurs will always be a good RS team if they're healthy. I'll go with 57 wins

[SpaceCoast Spursfan]

50 to 55 wins seeded somewhere between 4th and 6th


Most likely scenario... If Pop gets 2 or 3 seed with this group, would be unbelievable coaching job

[ceperez]

52 wins, 6th seed.

[DontStopBelieving]

53. 4th seed

[NASpurs]

Houston is going to be such shit next year. I seriously don't know what 2-8 are going to be. Probably the Jazz are about as a lock at 2 as you're going to get.

I'm guessing probably somewhere middle of the pack, 4th.

[hater]

48

6th seed

1st round exit

[Mugen]

As presently constructed? No other significant moves?

51 wins, 5th seed and a first round exit

[KDKSpurs24]

53 wins. 4th seed.

[ace3g]

Metu isn't officially on the roster yet.

[loveforthegame]

50-52 wins
4-5 seed

[Ron Swanson]

55 wins, 4 seed

[ElNono]

I like this team, tbh... it's all offense and all about shooting...

If Manu comes back, I can see them winning 60 games, tbh... without Manu the ceiling is probably low 50s, tbh...

[baseline bum]

50-32, 4th seed

[DPG21920]

50-32, 4th seed

About how I feel. Downside is 42 wins if things go really bad.

[SPURt]

55 wins, 4 seed
+1

[DAF86]

Best case: 50 to 55 wins and get to the second round by beating the Lakers on the first round.

Worst case: DeRozan goes into a mad depression and we are stuck with his 90/3 year deal, the team implodes, Aldridge gets traded and Pop retires at the end of the season.

[goliath]

55 wins 3 seed

[dabom]

62 wins.

[coachmac87]

2nd seed WCF is ceiling...Same as with Kawhi tbh lol

Not have HCA in first round is floor

Spurs couldn’t have found a better “compete now” deal. But nobody is really competing with GSW so it skewed things.

[baseline bum]

I think people are making a big mistake assuming Aldridge is going to have another career year like last season. Nevertheless I think replacing nobody with DeRozan is probably still good enough to add three wins even if LMA isn't the player he was last season. But I'm not seeing the talent for 55+ wins unless Murray becomes a top point guard this season.

[Gibbz]

50 wins 5 seed

[Spurs4#5]

60 + wins. Won’t have as many blown leads and win more of the closer games

[Uriel]

55 wins. 3 seed.

[TekXX]

I think people are making a big mistake assuming Aldridge is going to have another career year like last season. Nevertheless I think replacing nobody with DeRozan is probably still good enough to add three wins even if LMA isn't the player he was last season. But I'm not seeing the talent for 55+ wins unless Murray becomes a top point guard this season.

That was a career year? ouch.

[BatManu20]

That was a career year? ouch.

LMA’s the only reason we were even relevant last season..

[outmap]

57 wins, 3rd seed, 2nd round exit.

[TekXX]

LMA’s the only reason we were even relevant last season..

Mmm yea I watched. I guess it makes sense without Kawhi he'd have better numbers.

[raybies]

Gonna say this team is Top 3 without Leonard :/ I think they’ll get it this time. I’m gonna say 60+ wins. I’m dead serious lol. Lost a lot of games last year cause we couldn’t score or hit a 3 and both things have been addressed. Tony is addition by subtraction. I don’t doubt DeMar’s scoring prowess in the regular season and ability to win. Playoffs will be a different story. Someone will have to be a consistent 3rd option to get us out the second round. As it stands I see a most likely second round ceiling with a chance at WCF depending on the development of the youth.

[spursistan]

62 wins.
Do you still believe in Kawhi, faggot? :lol

[timvp]

50+ wins and a second round appearance looks possible as the roster is currently constructed. Murray having a huge jump and White becoming a rotation player are the most obvious avenues to become more than that.

[mexicanjunior]

48 wins...7th seed...another first round gentleman's sweep...

[superbigtime]

46 wins

8 seed

out after 1

[rascal]

45 wins out of playoffs.

[ducks]

Lma gets better knows he know is face not Leonard

[dbreiden83080]

Maybe 55.. They could surprise some people because nobody will expect a great deal. Hopefully Murray really develops this season..

[DAF86]

This is the exact same team with Bellinelli for Green and DeRozan for Anderson. Let's see how much better (if any) Belli and Demar are to Danny and Kyle, tbh.

[BatManu20]

So much hinges on if DJ takes another step this season, what Derrick White gives us, what we get from Lonnie, etc. Hopefully Bertans becomes more consistent too. were going to need all the shooting we can get.

[TD 21]

I'm leaning mid playoff seed, 50-52 wins, but I don't have a strong sense at the moment. I'll say this though, the range is 3-10 (Nuggets, Lakers, Timberwolves, Pelicans, Thunder, Trail Blazers, Spurs, Jazz) and barring unforeseen catastrophe (which will inevitably strike at least 1), they're all likely to finish within' a few games of each other.

[Spur|n|Austin]

56 wins 3rd or 4th seed

[Marcus Bryant]

4th to 8th seed, ~45 to 47 wins.

[ducks]

They will fight for the 4 -5 spot
Gs Houston thunder spurs lakers jazz Denver suns

[BatManu20]

They will fight for the 4 -5 spot
Gs Houston thunder spurs lakers jazz Denver suns

Wolves, Pelicans, and OKC should all be in the mix too. West is stacked.

[TDomination]

59 wins 2nd seed

1st round vs lakers (DeRozan finally beats lebron)
2nd round vs rockets (win in 6, pop stays undefeated against pringles)
3rd round vs warriors (lose in 5)

LaMarcus and DeRozan make all star team

[apalisoc_9]

50 wins
1st round exit against Houston as a 7th Seed.

[ducks]

Wolves, Pelicans, and OKC should all be in the mix too. West is stacked.

I have thunder number 3
Wolves will be worse
Butler will coast some because towns and Wiggins do not work hard

[slick'81]

50 wins and a potential first round win depending on opponent. 4-6 seed

[BackHome]

Do you still believe in Kawhi, faggot? :lol

+1 :toast

[bklynspursfan]

40 wins, 10th seed.

:lol you are consistent, I give you that

[GrapplingYautja]

54 wins, 3rd.

[DMC]

48 wins, 7th seed

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

51 wins and the 4 seed.

[stu scotts eye]

56 wins. Lose in wcf

[SpursBills]

If there was any justice in the world, spurs would beat the lakers in the playoffs. Derozan would finally get one over lebron and the lakers would be penalized for the entire kawhi situation

[Dex]

82 wins, intergalactic champions.

Go Spurs Go.

Fuck the Lakers and Fuck Kawhi, tbh.

[SAS=Kawhi]

50-52 wins 4-7 seed
With Danny gone we are not going to be able to defend any elite wings in the West like Butler, PG, LeBron, Durant, etc
Playoff exit depends on matchup: if it's someone like NOP or UTA we go through. If it's HOU,GSW,OKC,MIN were going home in the first

[paperboy77]

57 and the 3

[Maddog]

54 wins, 3rd.


That sounds about right.
Maybe higher if Murray or White takes a significant forward.
You've added a a consistent 20+ PPG scorer to last years 47 win squad and a young 7 footer who played 18 mpg for a 59 win team.

[rastaspur]

51 wins and the 4 seed.

51 wins. 3rd seed

[picnroll]

If Mills gets a lot of playing time and closes out games 40-44 wins. 7-10
If Mills doesn’t get a lot of playing time and doesn’t close out games 48-52 wins. 4-6

[DMC]

Just a note: the seeding stops at 8.

[offset formation]

57 wins. 2nd seed.

[offset formation]

82 wins, intergalactic champions.

Go Spurs Go.

Fuck the Lakers and Fuck Kawhi, tbh.

Tbh.

[lmbebo]

45 wins, 9th seed

[dbestpro]

60 wins. 2nd seed. The Spurs always have their best season when everyone discounts them including their own fans.

[BatManu20]

60 wins. 2nd seed. The Spurs always have their best season when everyone discounts them including their own fans.


Don't think we're a good enough outside shooting team so win 60. We're not gonna have great spacing this year. And that would be a really big jump from last year's 47 wins.

[SAGirl]

40 wins, 10th seed.
Trolling?
I am curious.

[SAGirl]

LMA’s the only reason we were even relevant last season..
I think many casuals who are showing up in the summer didn't really watch much of the team this past season...

[Robz4000]

Trolling?
I am curious.

Done deal.

[SAGirl]

This is the exact same team with Bellinelli for Green and DeRozan for Anderson. Let's see how much better (if any) Belli and Demar are to Danny and Kyle, tbh.
I think Poltl is a massive improvement over Joff too.
I think 52-55 wins. It can vary depending on Murray and White contributing. Also Manu was worth a few close games that he closed. If he retires or rather time catches up what was coming to him anyways, it varies. I thought there were a few games Gay was decisive to win but he missed around 23-25 games last season and was still recovering. He might be better (or get injured again, who knows?)

Depending on their youth development they will have depth to weather some RS injuries or not. Considering uncertainties tough to predict but I do expect them to be better.

P.S. Even if some guys don't admit it There will be games defense will be missed and Danny and Kyle will be missed.

I know bc I used to take Timmy D for granted defensively until I was forced to watch Gasol in his stead. Yes, Gasol was better than Timmy offensively his last year but Tim with no knees was better on D than Gasol. There will be games that you will think wtf is this defense???? :lmao

At least th team will score and be fun to watch though.

Dark horses for me are Murray, White and Walker. Could help the team so much and we get don't know... Or can underwhelm but time.

Still think they get 50+ wins and first round home court.

[SpursDynasty85]

After thinking about it further I will guess 57 wins and the 3rd seed.

[DesignatedT]

50 wins 4 seed

[Seventyniner]

Last year was 47 wins with Gay missing 1/3 of the season, basically no Kawhi, and underperforming compared to Pythagorean expectation (which tends to even out over time). With average injury and close game luck 50 seems like a lock. 60 is really pushing it, so I'll go with 53 wins.

Seeding is a real wild card. OC should be better by getting Roberson back and losing Carmelo. Utah could keep up their white-hot end to last season but could also slog like they did at the beginning. LeBron can will his team to wins, though more often in the playoffs.

I will say the 4th seed but there's a wide variation here, nothing between 2nd and 7th would surprise me.

[BillMc]

54 wins.

[TimDunkem]

54 wins. 3rd seed.

[HarlemHeat37]

Too early to say, pre-season predictions are usually pointless..however, most people don't seem to realize how bad the West was last season:lol it was the least amount of 50-win teams in the conference in like 30 years IIRC..none of the teams in that range got better, either..

[SuperCam]

with HOTS gone there's no real point guard on the roster. 45 wins 9th place.

[Holden_Caulfield]

If DeMar somehow tries and improves his defense we should make the playoffs

[Marcus Bryant]

Hate to say it but in some respects we'll be back to a similar season like those pre-TD in the 1990s. There'll be enough talent to make the playoffs, win 50 something games, but the ceiling in the playoffs will be the 2nd round.

They are going to be able to score, but that ability to control the game defensively just won't be there.

They need a 3 and D starting SF desperately. The interest in Luc Mbah Kunta Kinte a few weeks back was a pretty good indicator the Spurs were going to move Leonard soon, in retrospect.

In addition to how DeRozan fits in with the team and how Pop fits the team's offense around him and LaMarcus, the development of Murray, White, and Walker will be a significant factor in how well the team progresses. The next major move this offseason will presumably land a starting 3.

[DPG21920]

4th to 8th seed, ~45 to 47 wins.

That is bad news. If DeRozan isn’t good enough to add more wins over last years team they need to flip him asap.

[DPG21920]

I am at the point though where I really hope SA doesn’t flame out and win the same or less than last year. There are already a lot of writers bashing SA for the trade and it will be ten-fold if they don’t add wins.

[Mugen]

I am at the point though where I really hope SA doesn’t flame out and win the same or less than last year. There are already a lot of writers bashing SA for the trade and it will be ten-fold if they don’t add wins.

Fuck the haters, my dude. Those guys are just dusting off their bash the Spurs articles from 2006, 2010, 2011, 2013 :lol

[barbacoataco]

The Spurs have a good chance of being better next year. The Western Conference will be good. Very hard to predict with all the new players and young players like White. I'm excited.

[BatManu20]

The Spurs won 47 last year, but we lost a ton of close games in case people forgot, mostly due to the offense getting stagnant because we did not having a closer... Not saying DeRozan will be that for us, but if he can just be good enough to where we are not in so many tight games with a minute left in the fourth, I don't see how we don't win at least 50 games tbh. (Barring injuries, of course).

[dabom]

The Spurs won 47 last year, but we lost a ton of close games in case people forgot, mostly due to the offense getting stagnant because we did not having a closer... Not saying DeRozan will be that for us, but if he can just be good enough to where we are not in so many tight games with a minute left in the fourth, I don't see how we don't win at least 50 games tbh. (Barring injuries, of course).

We dont need Derozan to be a closer,although he probably will be for sometimes, we wont need to cause we going to be winning by a comfortable amount.

[KDKSpurs24]

Too early to say, pre-season predictions are usually pointless..however, most people don't seem to realize how bad the West was last season:lol it was the least amount of 50-win teams in the conference in like 30 years IIRC..none of the teams in that range got better, either..
But shouldn’t it be like that? The better (or more equal) teams are in a conference there will always be wins distributed out between those teams. That’s why 3-9 was so close together.

[alpha_HaZE]

Manu is coming back and I believe Metu will spend time in G-league. Jaron could be on the team though.

To me, this is the roster

DJ/White/Patty
DDR/Lonnie/Bryn
Gay/Belli/Manu
LA/Davis/Cunnigham
Pau/Jakob Poeltl

And we are significantly better than last year. 1) We have 3 point shooting! And 2) we have a closer, someone that can score the ball or draw a foul in the last few minutes of a game. And 3) we have another scorer to pair with LA. And 4) we have someone that can create for others. And 5) we have chip on our shoulders. We have a much better team there is no deny about it.

HOU has taken a step back, OKC, LA, Utah, and Nuggets have gotten better, but I think the Spurs will be third. Hard to argue otherwise, if we are healthy of course. Last year, we had all sorts of injuries. Rudy Gay missed a significant amount of time, Pau played the last third of the season with a shoulder injury, Manu was banged up, Bryn hit a wall.

[TD 21]

The Spurs won 47 last year, but we lost a ton of close games in case people forgot, mostly due to the offense getting stagnant because we did not having a closer... Not saying DeRozan will be that for us, but if he can just be good enough to where we are not in so many tight games with a minute left in the fourth, I don't see how we don't win at least 50 games tbh. (Barring injuries, of course).

Yeah, but Aldridge was motivated to reprove himself a star and turned in a career season at 32, while Green and Anderson provided strong wing defense. There was also enough of the old guard left, who willed themselves across the finish line on sheer pride.

I could see DeRozan being motivated after feeling like he was lied to, but there's not a single credible wing defender on the team, they will have serious spacing issues in their starting lineup (Gay probably comes off the bench, but I include him considering the amount he's likely to play and close) and the old guard is almost gone.

Anything from 3-10 wouldn't surprise me, but having 3 as the high end speaks more so to the lack of anything resembling a 3rd power than it does this team's potential.

[gambit1990]

over 50 wins, #4 seed.

[offset formation]

If DeMar somehow tries and improves his defense we should make the playoffs

Making the playoffs should not be a problem. I see no worse than a 5th seed.

1st group
GS
Houston


Then...2nd group
Portland
Utah
Minnesota
OKC
SA (we could potentially be a 3 or even 2 seed though, and maybe a 7 seed on the lowest end, but this will be a better team than last year's 47 win team.)

Then...3rd group
Denver
LA Lakers
Memphis
LA Clippers

Then...4th group
Phoenix
Dallas
Sacramento

[r0drig0lac]

Making the playoffs should not be a problem. I see no worse than a 5th seed.

1st group
GS
Houston


Then...2nd group
Portland
Utah
Minnesota
OKC
SA (we could potentially be a 3 or even 2 seed though, and maybe a 7 seed on the lowest end, but this will be a better team than last year's 47 win team.)

Then...3rd group
Denver
LA Lakers
Memphis
LA Clippers

Then...4th group
Phoenix
Dallas
Sacramento
houston will be worse than last season

[John B]

50+ wins with DeRozan replacing nobody. We lost close-out guards with departure of Green/Kyle. But Poetl should help depend the paint. I sincerely hope Pau take Poeltl under his wings. Defense will dip, but scoring should be better so I expect a faster tempo with 3 guards running Murray/DeRozan/White. That’s a pretty good size backcourt and should dominate esp if Murray developed considerably over the Summer.

[raybies]

Gonna say this team is Top 3 without Leonard :/ I think they’ll get it this time. I’m gonna say 60+ wins. I’m dead serious lol. Lost a lot of games last year cause we couldn’t score or hit a 3 and both things have been addressed. Tony is addition by subtraction. I don’t doubt DeMar’s scoring prowess in the regular season and ability to win. Playoffs will be a different story. Someone will have to be a consistent 3rd option to get us out the second round. As it stands I see a most likely second round ceiling with a chance at WCF depending on the development of the youth. Spurtacular

[Immortal Spur]

Man, things ain't going like we expected so far

[NASpurs]

Make me eat crow Spurs :tu

[Mirrornick]

Spurtacular (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=49615)

Nice find. How many accounts do you have lol

[Immortal Spur]

Nice find. How many accounts do you have lol
just that one and this one. I requested a name change but they wouldn't give me one, so I just made a new account. Don't really care about date and post count

[Mirrornick]

just that one and this one. I requested a name change but they wouldn't give me one, so I just made a new account. Don't really care about date and post count

how much would you sell your raybies account for?

[Immortal Spur]

how much would you sell your raybies account for?
what the heck lol It's my Patty Mills account so it's untouchable

[Mirrornick]

what the heck lol It's my Patty Mills account so it's untouchable

lol

[Spurtacular]

Spurtacular (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=49615)

Well done.

[BillMc]

how much would you sell your raybies account for?
https://media1.tenor.com/images/e6bec27c8458c7b428d08043976e5d84/tenor.gif?itemid=4123675

[Immortal Spur]

https://media1.tenor.com/images/e6bec27c8458c7b428d08043976e5d84/tenor.gif?itemid=4123675
LOL

[SAGirl]

:rollinEntire thread!
1070210291902771200
1070696928768352262

BTW I miscalculated too. I was going to miss Anderson, Manu, and Danny regardless, but I didn’t think they’d be this bad. When Murray got hurt that was the last nail on a coffin that was already set down with Derozan, Cunningham, and Beli joining the team on top of Forbes and Mills. That means Spurs worst defense in history of coach Pop come on down!!

The FO is responsible for all these moves so don’t tell me this outcome is a surprise.

[DAF86]

This is the exact same team with Bellinelli for Green and DeRozan for Anderson. Let's see how much better (if any) Belli and Demar are to Danny and Kyle, tbh.

We all now know.

[DAF86]

Maybe 55.. They could surprise some people because nobody will expect a great deal. Hopefully Murray really develops this season..

Wait, but I thought nobody expected anything from this roster. :lmao

[DAF86]

:lol you are consistent, I give you that

Not so funny now, huh?

[bklynspursfan]

Not so funny now, huh?

I mean , I said that before all the injuries tbh

[NASpurs]

We dont need Derozan to be a closer,although he probably will be for sometimes, we wont need to cause we going to be winning by a comfortable amount.

:lmao TheGreatYacht

[NASpurs]

Man, things ain't going like we expected so far

Just needed some time. Now they’re going as expected

[DAF86]

I mean , I said that before all the injuries tbh

Do you really think Murray and Gasol's injuries make the difference between 55 wins and a lottery team? :lol

[SanAntonioSpurs23]

36 wins max. Spurs will be irrelevant for a decade

[bklynspursfan]

Do you really think Murray and Gasol's injuries make the difference between 55 wins and a lottery team? :lol

I think they're closer to 50 wins than lottery with Murray here.

[DAF86]

I think they're closer to 50 wins than lottery with Murray here.

Don't mean to disrespect, and stop me if you have heard this before, but that might be because you are a bit of a homer, tbh.

[bklynspursfan]

Don't mean to disrespect, and stop me if you have heard this before, but that might be because you are a bit of a homer, tbh.

Guess we'll never know huh?

And no, that's a first :grim:

[Strategic]

Damn

[Brazil]

Do you really think Murray and Gasol's injuries make the difference between 55 wins and a lottery team? :lol

To be fair, Murray is a huge loss not because because dude is the next MJ but the roster has really no good alternative tbh... this team would do much better with him, I don't know if this better represents 5 ou 15 wins and we will never know but losing Murray is really the unexpected stuff that happened after this thread was made.

[rascal]

Will be around .500 for most of the year until the final stretch run of games then the wheels fall off(could be due to an injury or two as the spurs don't have any quality depth on the bench) and they fall to a 36 win team. I said they will be 45 wins in the summer but now adjusted totals lower.